Re: annoying quicknav problem in osx 10.10 and 10.11

2015-09-18 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
when your on the text boxes you can turn off quick nav by pressing left and right arrow, i think that is not difficult. :) > On 17 Sep 2015, at 10:34 PM, William Windels > wrote: > > Hello all, > this tread has become a mixed tread but I am speaking about the

Re: annoying quicknav problem in osx 10.10 and 10.11

2015-09-17 Thread Christina C.
I also cannot type in text fields when quick nav is on. I believe in the voiceOver Utility under commanders/quick nav, there is a check box that says "Enable single-key webpage navigation when using Quick Nav.” You can try unchecking this if you do not like to use single key navigation. This

Re: annoying quicknav problem in osx 10.10 and 10.11

2015-09-17 Thread William Windels
Hello all, this tread has become a mixed tread but I am speaking about the original question. I thought that the quicknav letters on a webpage only should work when the cursor isn’t in a interacted edit-field. So, I thought that I could combine the quicknav keys on a webpage on one side and

annoying quicknav problem in osx 10.10 and 10.11

2015-09-16 Thread William Windels
Hello all, I have 2 frustrating quicknav problems (at the moment I use the gm of El Capitan but this problems where also present with osx 10.10) 1: sometimes when I am in a interacted formfeeld on a webpage to fill in text , I can’t pressing some letters while quicknav is on. e.g. if I press

Re: annoying quicknav problem in osx 10.10 and 10.11

2015-09-16 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
all, > > I have 2 frustrating quicknav problems (at the moment I use the gm of El > Capitan but this problems where also present with osx 10.10) > > 1: > sometimes when I am in a interacted formfeeld on a webpage to fill in text > , I can’t pressing some letters while quicknav is on.

Re: macbook requirements to run osx 10.10?

2015-08-17 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
From Apple's requirements: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201475 It sounds like OSX 10.10 Yosemite will run on a MacBook late 2008 or newer so if this is a 2011 model you should be good to go. Apples technical specs don't list a 2011 model but there is a 2010: https://support.apple.com/kb

Re: macbook requirements to run osx 10.10?

2015-08-16 Thread Tim Kilburn
are the requirements for using osx 10.10 the latest version of osx they have a macbook running snow leppard 10.63 2 gigs of ddr3 ram and an intell core 2 duo processer that is running 2.4 ghz. Would they need to up the ram to be able to handel the osx 10.10 and then possibly the osx 10.11 when

Re: macbook requirements to run osx 10.10?

2015-08-15 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
...@abe.midco.net wrote: a friend wanted me to ask what are the requirements for using osx 10.10 the latest version of osx they have a macbook running snow leppard 10.63 2 gigs of ddr3 ram and an intell core 2 duo processer that is running 2.4 ghz. Would they need to up the ram to be able

macbook requirements to run osx 10.10?

2015-08-15 Thread Sunshine
a friend wanted me to ask what are the requirements for using osx 10.10 the latest version of osx they have a macbook running snow leppard 10.63 2 gigs of ddr3 ram and an intell core 2 duo processer that is running 2.4 ghz. Would they need to up the ram to be able to handel the osx 10.10

Re: macbook requirements to run osx 10.10?

2015-08-15 Thread Sunshine
, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote: a friend wanted me to ask what are the requirements for using osx 10.10 the latest version of osx they have a macbook running snow leppard 10.63 2 gigs of ddr3 ram and an intell core 2 duo processer that is running 2.4 ghz. Would they need to up

Re: macbook requirements to run osx 10.10?

2015-08-15 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
...@icloud.com On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote: a friend wanted me to ask what are the requirements for using osx 10.10 the latest version of osx they have a macbook running snow leppard 10.63 2 gigs of ddr3 ram and an intell core 2 duo processer

Re: macbook requirements to run osx 10.10?

2015-08-15 Thread Sunshine
, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote: a friend wanted me to ask what are the requirements for using osx 10.10 the latest version of osx they have a macbook running snow leppard 10.63 2 gigs of ddr3 ram and an intell core 2 duo processer that is running 2.4 ghz. Would they need

Re: macbook requirements to run osx 10.10?

2015-08-15 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
10.10 the latest version of osx they have a macbook running snow leppard 10.63 2 gigs of ddr3 ram and an intell core 2 duo processer that is running 2.4 ghz. Would they need to up the ram to be able to handel the osx 10.10 and then possibly the osx 10.11 when it is released? -- You

Re: macbook requirements to run osx 10.10?

2015-08-15 Thread Sunshine
...@abe.midco.net wrote: a friend wanted me to ask what are the requirements for using osx 10.10 the latest version of osx they have a macbook running snow leppard 10.63 2 gigs of ddr3 ram and an intell core 2 duo processer that is running 2.4 ghz. Would they need to up the ram to be able to handel

Re: macbook requirements to run osx 10.10?

2015-08-15 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote: a friend wanted me to ask what are the requirements for using osx 10.10 the latest version of osx they have a macbook running snow

Re: macbook requirements to run osx 10.10?

2015-08-15 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote: a friend wanted me to ask what are the requirements for using osx 10.10

Re: virtualbox and osx 10.10

2014-12-13 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Have you tried qemu for osx? It works but i didn’t understand how. /A 12 dec 2014 kl. 08:28 skrev deedra waters dee...@the-brannons.com: Seems apple-gcc can’t build on this version of OS X So for now i guess for now i’m either going to have to wait till it is supported to install

Re: Apache, MySQL, PHP and phpMyAdmin on OSX 10.10 Yosemite for Local Development

2014-12-12 Thread Jeff Berwick
...@berwick.name Subject: Apache, MySQL, PHP and phpMyAdmin on OSX 10.10 Yosemite for Local Development Date: December 10, 2014 at 3:37:47 PM EST http://coolestguidesontheplanet.com/get-apache-mysql-php-phpmyadmin-working-osx-10-10-yosemite/ http://coolestguidesontheplanet.com/get-apache

Re: virtualbox and osx 10.10

2014-12-12 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
From what I've read, Clang is slowly replacing GCC so Apple is just jumping in with both feet (as is BSD). An interesting discussion of that is here: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49906/why-is-freebsd-deprecating-gcc-in-favor-of-clang-llvm CB On 12/12/14, 2:28 AM, deedra waters

Re: virtualbox and osx 10.10

2014-12-12 Thread deedra waters
I can set it up under emu i think but unsure going to try it now though since i’m running out of options fast lol… deedra waters dee...@the-brannons.com On Dec 12, 2014, at 6:30 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: From what I've read, Clang is

Fwd: Apache, MySQL, PHP and phpMyAdmin on OSX 10.10 Yosemite for Local Development

2014-12-11 Thread Jeff Berwick
...@berwick.name Subject: Apache, MySQL, PHP and phpMyAdmin on OSX 10.10 Yosemite for Local Development Date: December 10, 2014 at 3:37:47 PM EST http://coolestguidesontheplanet.com/get-apache-mysql-php-phpmyadmin-working-osx-10-10-yosemite/ -- You received this message because you

virtualbox and osx 10.10

2014-12-11 Thread deedra waters
Seems apple-gcc can’t build on this version of OS X So for now i guess for now i’m either going to have to wait till it is supported to install virtual box or hmm not sure yet. Any one know of another vm program that’s not vmware that would work for installing a simple small linux vm?

Mac mini (2014) with osx 10.10 and the magic trackpad

2014-11-13 Thread William Windels
hello, yesterday, i configured my new macmini witch succes except the magic trackpad. the trackpad was turned on and i could see that thee trackpad was connected with bluetth to my mac mini in the bluetooth panel. in voiceover, i turned on trackpad but i couldn't use voiceover with the

multitouch trackpad with mac mini (2014) and osx 10.10

2014-11-13 Thread William Windels
Hello, I bought the newest mac mini with osx 10.10 installed on it and also with a magic trackpad. I have configured the mac mini successfully except the magic trackpad : is not working with voiceover. The trackpad commander is activated in the voiceover preferences and the trackpad is turned

Re: multitouch trackpad with mac mini (2014) and osx 10.10

2014-11-13 Thread Chris Moore
hello William, We need to first verify that your track pad is connected and functioning. How do you know whether it is connected? Did you have someone do some gestures on it? If the Mac doesn’t recognize it then VO won’t either. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed

download osx 10.10 help

2014-10-22 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
Hello when downloading osx 10.10 where is it putting the downloaded file to? I checked under aplications folder and am not seeing it. am I missing something? Hank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: download osx 10.10 help

2014-10-22 Thread David Griffith
: Hello when downloading osx 10.10 where is it putting the downloaded file to? I checked under aplications folder and am not seeing it. am I missing something? Hank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Krister Ekstrom
In the ideal world there would be no priorities as to what bugs or issues would be fixed or not, but this ain't the ideal world and will never be. Graphics and snazzy visual things will *always* have a higher priority because like it or not, we're a very, very small minority. So small in fact

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Buddy Brannan
. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Buddy Brannan
And this just proves people will hear exactly what they want to hear. Nowhere did I say that we shouldn't ask for fixes, point out problelms that need fixed, or anything of the sort. Trust the system? Who ever said that? Not me. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile:

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Robin
I'm sorry for your misinterpretation of what I said. I never inferred and/or said that you didn't request bug' and/or flaw fixes. I said you inferred that with mainstream access (accessibility), other issues take presidence over our issues, and I regretfully disagree since these MobileDevices

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Jamie Pauls
I also have the same clock with the missing battery cover. LOL I have a cat to thank for that. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: I had all of those you mention specifically - lol! Still have the talking clock, a bit dented from

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Cheryl Homiak
You know, I was thinking about that and realized that, in the interests of not berating a sighted world for this, another corollary should be added. While most of us can't see or have some limits on our vision, it is indeed an extremely visual world and universe. Not that it isn't a world and

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Whatever the reasons, we're caught in the crossfire. I'm personally convinced, having reported bugs to Apple, that some get fixed, and others do not. It may be a purely clerical issue which do and which don't, and this is part of the reason I implore people to get brave and test and report on

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Buddy Brannan
I didn't say that either. What I said was that all bugs get prioritized. That means that necessarily some of our bugs will be lower down the list than some other bugs. Similarly, some other bugs will be lower down on the list than some of ours. We can't always get top billing, and it's

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core

RE: osx 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread wayne17a
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:43 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: osx 10.10 I just sent my problem to Apple Accessibility, so maybe, just maybe, I won't have to throw this mac away, lol. This is so horrible that it's

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-20 Thread Anders Holmberg
interested in but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Les Kriegler
problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Jeff -- You received this message because

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Juan Hernandez
features I am quite interested in but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
in but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Faisal
true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
, greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Jeff -- You received this message

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Anders Holmberg
. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Jamie Pauls
. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Jeff -- You received this message

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Jose Lomeli
with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Jeff -- You received this message because you

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Alex Hall
changing. Same goes for iOS 8. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Krister Ekstrom
if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Faisal
in but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Krister Ekstrom
am quite interested in but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Christine Grassman
I agree. While I would stop short of placing Apple on a pedestal, as no one or company is worthy of that level of responsibility, I am realistic about the varying preferences and needs of a customer base consisting of millions of people, and I am steadfastly grateful for Apple and its integral

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Krister Ekstrom
with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Jeff -- You received this message because you

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
I did not have a disastrous experience. I had just gotten a new Macbook with Mountain Lion and Mavericks came out shortly after that. And history repeats itself today with Yosemite. There were many complaints about Mavericks. Meanwhile, I worked with ML, trying to forget Windows.

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Jeff -- You received this message

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Jeff -- You received this message

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
in but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
Hi, I'm normally not one to complain for the sake of complaining. I am a realist. I know that we as a market are a minority within Apple's customer base. I will give them credit where it's due. They did take the lead in accessibility. However, mainstream society has caught on to the fact that

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Eileen Misrahi
in but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
That is a first. The general public now dictates what the disabled public gets? Apple develops products for the mainstream market...and they also have enabled these same products to be usable by the disabled. Can amy other comppany claim that? We all can walk into any Apple store along

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Juan Hernandez
in but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Jeff -- You received

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
In the answer to a couple of your questions, ask for a company making their products usable by the disabled, do you or do you not remember what sharp did for us with talking clocks and calculators? Do you also know that Panasonic makes optional talking caller ID in its cordless phones? For

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
f We want to play on the same level field as non disabled people. Why should we expect more than that? How does Microsoft and Google stack up against Apple? WHne the first iPhone came out, I had no idea that eventually it could be made accessible. It blows my mind that I bought a

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Buddy Brannan
See, here's the thing. We *are* being treated like everyone else. Now that we have mainstream access to mainstream products, that also means that our bugs get stuck in the queue with everyone else's bugs. They get prioritized along with everybody else's bugs. And they get fixed in the schedule

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
I should have waited before adding to the thread for Buddy's post is absolutely spot on. I cannot add to that. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/19/2014 4:33 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: See, here's the thing. We *are* being treated like

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
Hi Buddy, I can't disagree with your post, however my question to you is this why when there are visually impaired beta testers under NDA specifically to report issues that deal with accessibility does Apple not pay attention to what is being reported to them? If it was something to do with

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Buddy Brannan
What proof do you have that these issues weren't (and aren't) paid attention to? Again, it's a matter of priority. Not everything can be done in a given release under a given time line. If Apple waited for everything to be bug-free, nothing would get released. Ever. If you have real concrete

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Pamela Francis
I don't make a statement like that unless I can back it up. I will write you off list. Will not be tonight, I have to get my ducks in a row before I can send them to you. I guarantee you, it won't matter. As much as we would like to think they do they truly don't care anymore. Why can't

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Alex Hall
Accessibility bugs are no more or less important. While Apple took a year to fix iBooks, they have yet to fix broken display drivers on 2011 Macbook Pros under Mavericks, and now Yosemite; they took months to fix a bug in Mavericks where many Airs failed to reconnect to wifi upon waking; they

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread David Eagle
I'm confused. I'm having no problems whatsoever using the new operating system. Everything is responsive, and I've noticed no bugs so far. I'm not sure why poor Pam is having such a rough time with this update, because everything is working flawlessly for me. Sorry to rub it in Pam. On 20 Oct

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread alia robinson
I've been running it since the july beta, and IMO it has worked great from the start, much much better than mavericks. Alia On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:59 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm confused. I'm having no problems whatsoever using the new operating system. Everything

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Devin Prater
...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
Pam, Can you definitinely show us proof that our needs are less important to Apple? From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/19/2014 5:23 PM, Pamela Francis wrote: Hi Buddy, I can't disagree with your post, however my question to you is this

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
Pam, Point us to a company that produces bug free hardware and software. Apple is still premium, you just cannot accept the reality check. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/19/2014 5:53 PM, Pamela Francis wrote: I don't make a statement

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Devin Prater
of the new features I am quite interested in but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Robin
: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would be appreciated

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Devin Prater
if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Devin Prater
in but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from

RE: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread wayne17a
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: osx 10.10 Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about updating. Don't, under any condition

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Juan Hernandez
They do pay attention. In a software system like this there are hundreds of thousands of lines of code. there are at times hundreds to a few thousands of bugs in a program like Yosemite. Things get fixed in level of severity. Not that your problems are not saver, but they do get fixed. If

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would

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2014-10-19 Thread Robin
In my humble opinion, I don't agree with your assessment as it pertains to mainstream accessibility (Out of the Box). If these mainstream products are going to be incorporated into Public Education settings, and people with disabilities are going to be mainstreamed, how can Apple products be

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Devin Prater
, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Jeff

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Brian Fischler
Just an FYI to those of you who feel that complaining to Apple will ruin accessibility which is a very laughable premise. I just read an article on a main stream tech site where many in the sighted world have lit up the Apple forums complaining about the loss of the side bar in iTunes. I wonder

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread The Believer
Considering that Microsoft released Windows 8.1 (to bring back what they thought was useless?), is it stretching the truth any to expect that Apple will listen and bring back the camera roll and the sidebar? Its hardly a farfetched idea. I would not be surprised if that happens. That is

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Alex Hall
PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Ray Foret Jr
To sum it all up, Seems to me that too many of us blind people want everything for nothing and we think the world should pay attention only to us and cater to only our needs because it's all about us 24/7. Got news for y'all. It isn't. Just deal with it. IF you want to operate in the

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread David Chittenden
In addition, bugs are extremely difficult to track down. In code this complex, repairing one bug, or making changes in one area, often causes bugs to appear in completely unrelated areas that make no sense how it could possibly have caused such a bug. As for intermentent bugs, those are the

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread David Chittenden
bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would be appreciated! Jeff -- You received this message

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2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I don't recall people saying that complaining to Apple would ruin accessibility. It is how you complain and your perspective that are being debated as far as I know. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God

Re: osx 10.10

2014-10-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I had all of those you mention specifically - lol! Still have the talking clock, a bit dented from being dropped and I lost the cover to the battery compartment but still works! Isn't that just hysterically funny? Not the point I know but it gives me a great laugh! -- Cheryl I tried and

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