Hi!
I have to turn off quicknav to be able to view the list of mails.
Also i can not use quicknav in any menu.
/A
13 juli 2015 kl. 04:50 skrev Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com:
One bug I found is with the new window spots menu. When selecting, for
example, the messages table in Mail, the content
Why do you keep posting these things?? You must like reading your own emails
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 23:05
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is anyone having
Using a Macbook Pro 13 inch Retina mid 2012 if that's any help. Not
tested on the 2015 15 inch retina as it is my main system.
On 7/13/2015 8:59 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
Not confirmed here. No issues at all.
/Krister
13 juli 2015 kl. 04:46 skrev Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com:
So there's a bug
I'll write you off list about what I'm seeing: but yes, same issues.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
On Jul 13, 2015, at 1:05 AM,
Hmm, wonder if it doesn't like the odd number of cores. Maybe try
dropping it to two. I'm assuming you're running 64-bit Windows since
you're trying to allocate 16GB RAM. Are you on the latest updates of
vmware? Windows beats on your hard drive but with an SSD, that shouldn't
be holding things
Pegasus Mail was awesome, back in the day. It’s still being maintained but I’m
not sure I’d want to use it now—or even if I could.
MailMate is promising for we power-users, but there are still some
accessibility challenges. Thunderbird is off, on OS X. Mozilla don’t seem to
have put in the
As it is web based, I don't see why it wouldn't be.
I trialed it under Windows and it seemed to be fine.
-Shaf
On 7/14/2015 3:43 AM, Laura Bratton wrote:
Hi all,
Is the social media program HootSuite accessible with voiceover? Any help
would be greatly appreciated!
Laura
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Alpine? Ew! You may as well do Mutt! LOL!
No, wait, I gotta better one for ya: Let's use Emax with Emaxspeak.
There's an ugly one for ya! ROFL! But no, seriously, I know this doesn't
exactly? involve Mail? but! maybe you all can at least help me out. Back in
Snow Leopard, there was
Hi there
You shouldn’t have to interact with Finder a lot. Personally, on the Mac, I
like column view although others feel differently. If you want column view,
press command 3. This will let you go up and down through your folders with
just the up and down arrows, and then press right arrow
Hi,
I’m not sure about how to fix your first issue, but as for Night Owl, you have
to add the account manually through preferencesaccounts in night owl itself.
Just setting up the account through internet accounts enables sharing to
twitter and getting notifications of DMs and mentions through
Hi!
I was testing to submit a file but it was really a pain in the butt.
It was complaining that there were missing files even though they were attached.
So i sent without files.
I think i am going to let the accessibility team know about this issue as its
really frustrating things going on here
Nightowl doesn't use internet accounts, look in prefs.
On 7/13/2015 2:20 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote:
There are a couple of oddities I do not understand. The first is that if I am
in a list view, which is the default in finder’s view options, the down arrow
will consistently say empty desktop
Listers,
In the latest iTunes, how can I find how much credit I have left? I used to be
able to see the amount of credit left on my account just to the left of the
html area of the store but now there is no information regarding my credit
visible. How can I find out how much credit I have
There are a couple of oddities I do not understand. The first is that if I am
in a list view, which is the default in finder’s view options, the down arrow
will consistently say empty desktop and take me there and out of the list. Up
arrow works properly. If I interact, and use the vo commands,
Honestly,
I rolled back to the dev preview. Though it's a pain in my butt, at least the
developer online bug reporter works.
When, and if, they fix the feedback assistant, I'm sure I'll hear about it on
this list. Especially given how many people wanna break the NDA. Once it's
fixed,
Hi,
I agree about using column view. Since I was a Windows user prior to switching,
this made the most sense and closest view to emulate a tree view found in the
PC arena.
Best,
Eileen experience
On Jul 13, 2015, at 6:30 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
Hi there
You
I highly doubt the accessibility team will help solve issues with the public
beta, hence the inclusion of feedback assistant. Also, you don’t have to send
the feedback with those attached files, but they help and are recommended, but
seeing as there’s apparently an issue, just send your
I was setting it up for my partner, but I got it all done. Thanks.
Kristeen
On Jul 13, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
Hang on. Who's Mac is this? Yours or someone else's?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 13, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com
Thunderbird lags behind Firefox for accessibility. They are just getting
going on making it accessible so some elements are readable but there
are empty tables where the message list and folders should be. I'm
hoping they will get that working someday soon.
CB
On 7/13/15 1:57 AM, Sean Murphy
Hi, Sorry I’m chiming in late! But, I’ve heard good things about an app called
Giasmail. There is a write-up about it on apples in their mac app directory. I
know its not free but there is a trial.
Hope this helps! Jeff
On Jul 13, 2015, at 10:21 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,
Is the social media program HootSuite accessible with voiceover? Any help
would be greatly appreciated!
Laura
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i say wait for il capitan
On 13 Jul 2015, at 7:57 AM, Sean Murphy mhysnm1...@gmail.com wrote:
Use ms outlook
Do not know about thunderbird.
My experience is the part
On 13 Jul 2015, at 2:50 pm, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
MailMate? That came close, last time I
I am curious as to why others are so dissatisfied with Mac Mail. There are some
VoiceOver quirks in the latest official release of the OS X, but I find that
there is a lot to like about Mac Mail.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Hi,
I was able to submit feedback successfully, including with all the attachments.
I was able to attach the accessibility settings that they needed by interacting
with the table of files, and clicking the help button in the accessibility
settings item. They give you instructions on how to
I agree. Wait till El Capitan. Smile.
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On 13 Jul 2015, at 18:52, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
Wait for El Cap before
This list is one of the slow ones for me. Nobody trims off the crap at the
bottom and so we end up loading bunches of repeat you have received this
message things like that. I'll admit that it has been quirky in working with
gmail at times.
I wonder what features thunderbird has that you'd
Hi!
Alpine would be a sollution.
I don’t know if it would work with voiceover but if you have a braile display
you could compile brltty and use terminal and then install alpine.
/A
13 juli 2015 kl. 19:49 skrev Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com:
Jamie!
I am curious as well. The only other mail
Hang on. Who's Mac is this? Yours or someone else's?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 13, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote:
I found a keyboard shortcut that was turned on and controlled how the tab
focus was set. Problem nicely solved!
The remaining issue is that it
Hi,
I wasn’t going to say anything in this thread, but well i do anyway:
I don’t know either why everyone is so dissatisfied with the Macmail client. I
mean Thunderbird has even less features than Mail or at least just as many and
Outlook is excuse me for saying so, downright clumcy in
OK, Ray, that would be great! I'll await seeing your message, if you've not
already sent it. I'm still trying to get through my morning batch of mail.
LOL!
Chris.
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From: Ray Foret Jr
To: Mac Visionaries List
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 8:21 AM
Jamie!
I am curious as well. The only other mail client I have ever liked better was
Pegasus for Windows years ago. This mac mail is a bit quirky sometimes and
pegasus had a great filtering rule capability but I think this is realy useable
with a couple of exceptions.
Jim
Sent from my
Wait for El Cap before bashing. :)
On Jul 13, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
Compared to the competition on other platforms, Mac Mail is rather slow and
misbehaved, and is increasingly feature-spartan as Apple continually removes
them. If I could use
i don't see any problem with mail here.
On 13 Jul 2015, at 2:08 PM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com wrote:
Using a Macbook Pro 13 inch Retina mid 2012 if that's any help. Not tested on
the 2015 15 inch retina as it is my main system.
On 7/13/2015 8:59 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
Not confirmed
i did send a problem report too, it says that i haven't attach aby file but i
did. so i click submit without file but when i check my submited report, it was
there. i subemited a screen recording.
On 13 Jul 2015, at 6:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:
OK, Ray,
Compared to the competition on other platforms, Mac Mail is rather slow and
misbehaved, and is increasingly feature-spartan as Apple continually removes
them. If I could use Thunderbird, I probably would. On other mailing lists,
Mac Mail is a fairly good way to ensure your mail won’t be read
I found a keyboard shortcut that was turned on and controlled how the tab focus
was set. Problem nicely solved!
The remaining issue is that it is logged into the app store under my account,
and it needs to be under the account of the actual owner. It originally was. I
do not know how it
Hi Chris and torahs,
I just successfully submitted feedback with the feedback assistant, and it
worked perfectly. To the person who said they wished they knew were the files
to attach manually are located, if you interact with the table of files, and
interact with the accessibility settings
Go to storesign out, and then sign back in.
On Jul 13, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote:
I found a keyboard shortcut that was turned on and controlled how the tab
focus was set. Problem nicely solved!
The remaining issue is that it is logged into the app store
Hello, I think this may be checked already is this correct? thanks in
advance.
On 13/07/2015 21:26, Jim Gatteys wrote:
Hi Kevin!
I changed a setting under preferences/accounts/advanced. It is: Automatically
detect and maintain account settings and when Imade that change it seems to
work
OK, for me I use I map for all accounts, I have 2 gmail accounts
icloud and I have a blueyonder account, I get a lot of mail on this
account, it takes ages to pick the mail up at least half an hour! if
I say use window's for a few days then go back to the mac I get loads of
mail from
Hi Kevin!
I changed a setting under preferences/accounts/advanced. It is: Automatically
detect and maintain account settings and when Imade that change it seems to
work much better for me.
Not sure if anybody else has done this
On Jul 13, 2015, at 3:13 PM, 'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries
Hello Folks,
Not sure if this is OT, but here goes. Have been a beta tester for Office 2016
for Mac. Since it has been released for Office 365 that the beta version will
not work anymore? I just updated to the most recent upgrade, opened it up and
now I feel like I'm back to square one with no
Hi,
CMD+r. HTH.
Matthew
On Jul 12, 2015, at 8:00 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote:
I continually forget this command. Please help!
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Hi,
Changing that setting in Mail is especially useful for those people using gmail
with the iMap protocol. Make sure that the gMail account is selected from the
Accounts table, then do as Jim outlined.
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jul 13, 2015, at 14:26, Jim Gatteys
I’ll have to chime in here as well and say that I use apple mail every day and
have no problems with it.
Having said that, though, you’d think that there’d be other mail clients out
there by now that are accessable. I too, loved thunderbird when I was using
windows. Not sure why they aren’t
VO shift plus F3 will toggle cursor tracking on and off. You might want to try
that.
Sent from my IPhone
On Jul 13, 2015, at 1:38 AM, Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I have a question. When I am moving by object in safari, and land at an aria
that I just want
Interesting, Rick. I assume, that since this is specifically related to the
instant video app, that there isn't any way to use voice search on other fire
TV channels. It's a good start. But clearly, the answer would be to make the
app accessible so that we could use all the channels.
Sent from
Yes, totally agree although I imagine you could apply the same technique using
Amazon Music. The voice search seems to be quite good.
Best regards,
Rick Alfaro
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Hi Mary,
No, I don’t know anyone on the Echo team, but my friend tells me it’s not hard
to get the message across to the right people. I’ve already told her the
“community” is hating on Amazon products for lack of screen reader
accessibility.
My friend has worked on some motor accessibility
Look at your keyboard settings for a command associated with the arrow key.
Jonathan Cohn
On Jul 13, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I’m not sure about how to fix your first issue, but as for Night Owl, you
have to add the account manually through
Hi, will check to morrow but sure this is already checked. thanks anyway.
On 13/07/2015 21:44, Tim Kilburn wrote:
Hi,
Changing that setting in Mail is especially useful for those people using gmail
with the iMap protocol. Make sure that the gMail account is selected from the
Accounts
Hi Kevin,
Thank you for your good efforts. Frankly, I wish they would just make the apps
for these things really accessible to the screen reader of choice, rather than
trying to build some kludgy nonsense into the fire TV etc. I have a Kindle fire
HD, and I was so dissatisfied with it that I
Mary and others:
Brent Harbolt from www.harboltcompany.com posted a short podcast on a work
around for using the Fire TV in conjuction with the IOS Instant Video app.
Basically, you find the movie you want in the Instant Video app then do a voice
search for it on the Fire TV. It isn't ideal
The El Capitan discussion is totally out in the open at
https://forums.developer.apple.com/community/pre-release/os-x-1011-beta.
I don’t no why anyone wouldn’t want to discuss it here though.
On Jul 13, 2015, at 2:55 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
Hi,
I too believe that a
Dumb people will be dumb.
Discuss all you want - it's been discussed for over a month by so many
other blogs and journalistic sites.
On 7/14/2015 1:16 AM, Barry Hadder wrote:
The El Capitan discussion is totally out in the open at
Let me be very clear. I need this for the mac, *not!* for I O S.
I'm looking for an app that would let me basically keep track of my personal
private thoughts in a journal type format. I know Text Edit is a good editer,
or Pages, or now a days, even MS Word, but, that's not quite what I mean.
Perfect! from the app store? Or will I need to Google.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Devin Prater
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Need a good diary app for OSX
I think it will. I do believe its free.
On Jul
Oh? My? God! Yes yes and again, yes! Unless they have changed things, it
is beautiful!
Do you need the Safari extention DMG? I can put it in Dropbox for ya, if
so.
Chris.
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From: Brandon A. Olivares thepianist2...@gmail.com
To: “Mac Visionaries“
Hello All,
I installed the beta, and it corrupted my hard drive, to the point that I had
to erase and reinstall Yosemite. Is there any way to try to get the beta back?
Thanks,
Aleeha
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Did you not first make a backup? That's one of the most important things
with betas to do. Not purposely meaning to be an ass, just am saying.
If not, just make a bootable copy of Yosemite to a USB stick, then go from
there.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Aleeha Dudley
I have 10.10.4 back. I am trying to get the beta back.
On Jul 13, 2015, at 8:52 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:
Did you not first make a backup? That's one of the most important things
with betas to do. Not purposely meaning to be an ass, just am saying.
If
Smiles thanks.
I'll wait to see what the new OS does to apple mail and then try out the other
suggestions.
May and LD Luna Moon!
www.canadianlynx.ca
On Jul 13, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
wrote:
i say wait for il capitan
On 13 Jul 2015, at 7:57 AM,
I think you could download it from hangouts.google.com. I was just trying to
make your life a little easier, since I already have it.
Chris.
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From: Brandon A. Olivares thepianist2...@gmail.com
To: “Mac Visionaries“ macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday,
Open the app store from the applications folder, and the download button will
be there. For some reason, opening it from the apple menu or the dock causes
the button to disappear.
On Jul 13, 2015, at 8:02 PM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
I have 10.10.4 back. I am trying to
Go to the apple beta web site and re registor your computer and you will get it
back
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 18:03
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Hi everyone,
I’m thinking of using Google Hangouts. I want to make sure it is accessible
though. Are there any issues using it? I want to use the QA app to answer
questions. Should this be accessible?
Thanks,
Brandon
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Actually, no. I've not tried it. Will that do all the things I've asked?
Is it expensive?
Chris.
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From: Devin Prater
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: Need a good diary app for OSX
xJournal is
xJournal is good. Sorry if you’ve tried that already.
On Jul 13, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:
Let me be very clear. I need this for the mac, *not!* for I O S.
I'm looking for an app that would let me basically keep track of my personal
I think it will. I do believe its free.
On Jul 13, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:
Actually, no. I've not tried it. Will that do all the things I've asked?
Is it expensive?
Chris.
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From: Devin Prater
I do not think there is one that can handle all your b s…LOL
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 17:42
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Need a good diary app for OSX
Hi guys,
One point that Aleeha didn't mention, is that when she goes into the app store
under purchases, the Beta is there, but there's no way to download it.
On Jul 13, 2015, at 20:52, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:
Did you not first make a backup? That's one of the
I don’t know. What is the extension? Can I get it somewhere?
On Jul 13, 2015, at 8:46 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:
Oh? My? God! Yes yes and again, yes! Unless they have changed things, it is
beautiful!
Do you need the Safari extention DMG? I can put it in
As strange as that sounds and as skeptical as I was, that worked. Thanks!!
On Jul 13, 2015, at 9:03 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
Open the app store from the applications folder, and the download button will
be there. For some reason, opening it from the apple menu or the
You’re welcome. :)
On Jul 13, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
As strange as that sounds and as skeptical as I was, that worked. Thanks!!
On Jul 13, 2015, at 9:03 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
Open the app store from the applications folder,
Aa, sorry, I must have misread. I was under the impression that you didn't
know how to reinstall Yosemite. My apology.
So... if you open up the app store from the Apple menu, then hit command+4
for purchases, do you not see the beta in the table that populates?
Chris.
- Original
If that is the case with the download button disappearing, has anyone filed
this as a bug?
Chris.
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From: Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: issue with the beta
As strange
That does not work… it will say that the code is expired. I got it worked out,
though.
On Jul 13, 2015, at 9:27 PM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
Go to the apple beta web site and re registor your computer and you will get
it back
-Original Message-
From:
I won't reveal the specifics about the bug I'm reporting, but I found an
accessibility bug related to Voiceover which is quite severe.
I tried to report this through the assistant. All was going great. I got my
description entered, the steps to reproduce, the build I saw this on, the
Can someone who uses terminal on their mac give me some pointers?
I can’t seem to get the back of reading the screen output. The only thing I
can interact with is that at the bottom, the last object area that I vo+right
arrow to. I am just having a hard time getting a good read on terminal.
Yes, that’s exactly what I meant: tell Fusion to treat your USB sound card just
as any other USB device. The downside of course is that now your Mac can’t
share audio output with your VM, but it’s definitely a boost for latency.
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Hey Chris. I didn't see the first thing you mentioned about the error you saw,
but I can confirm about the file upload. I think it's messed up. I sent a
feature request to apple, everything got sent, but it wanted me to attach
files. I couldn't figure out how to do this so I skipped that. This
you aren’t kidding. once I plugged in a usb headset, it speed up to nearly
full normal when I run windows natively. I wonder why vmware can’t fix this.
I wish I could get a headphone with multiple connections at work, I need to
ware headphones, and will it is really awkward to ware 2
Hi,
I too believe that a mailing list for VO beta testers would be better than a
thread here.
/Krister
13 juli 2015 kl. 01:37 skrev E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com:
The proposal does have merit. The difficulty comes in when people are not
on board with it so it will fail. Maybe I am too
Not confirmed here. No issues at all.
/Krister
13 juli 2015 kl. 04:46 skrev Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com:
So there's a bug in the Open File dialog when trying to open any type of file
from any application.
Can anybody else duplicate? VoiceOver just busy freezes.
On 7/13/2015 2:30 AM, E.T.
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