Re: mac OS big sur: progressively getting buggier and buggier as I leave it

2020-12-10 Thread Muhammad Fayed
I think you will like this video  https://youtu.be/DeMWNfL8IWQ Mohamed E. Fayed > On 11 Dec 2020, at 8:09 AM, Muhammad Fayed wrote: > > It would be better if someone has Mac OS Catalina.dmg installer so that you > can downgrade for now until everything gets better. > > I’ve searched for

Re: One Voice Only In Mac?

2020-12-10 Thread Brad Snyder
When in the VoiceOver Utility, you can find the Speech category, by interacting with the Utility Categories table, and navigating to Speech. Once Speech has been located/selected, stop interacting with the table, and VO + right arrow into the Speech setting area. As an alternative, when in

Re: Function-Keys On Apple Magic Keyboard?

2020-12-10 Thread Brad Snyder
On a Mac computer, by default, when pressed by themselves, the F-keys perform hardware functions, such as adjusting screen brightness, media controls, volume controls, and so on. In order to have the F-keys perform as normal F-keys, the Fn key must be pressed in combination with the desired

Function-Keys On Apple Magic Keyboard?

2020-12-10 Thread Fazil
Hi, Group. I purchased a pre-owned Apple Magic Keyboard today. It has 14 keys on the top row with the first key bigger twice as much. When I turned VoiceOver Help on and checked the keys, the two keys right to the big one were for adjusting brightness. Some of the keys did not speak. One of the

Re: mac OS big sur: progressively getting buggier and buggier as I leave it

2020-12-10 Thread Muhammad Fayed
It would be better if someone has Mac OS Catalina.dmg installer so that you can downgrade for now until everything gets better. I’ve searched for it, but find Big Sur only. HTH, Regards, Mohamed E. Fayed > On Dec 11, 2020, at 7:12 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > > Hi all, > > I can say I am

RE: One Voice Only In Mac?

2020-12-10 Thread Fazil
Hi Andrew. When I Open Voiceover utility with vo+f8, I can not navigate to category “speech”, or I should rather say that I can not find the category, ‘Speech’. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks! From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 8:24 AM To:

Re: How to select items to be moved

2020-12-10 Thread Brad Snyder
I was wrong. I just tried it using the Mail app on Catalina, and I was able to select multiple items using the same method as described for selecting multiple items in Finder. - Brad - On Dec 10, 2020, at 23:19, Gerard Doody wrote: Hi all, does this apply to mail as well? Thanks in

Re: How to select items to be moved

2020-12-10 Thread Brad Snyder
No. - Brad - On Dec 10, 2020, at 23:19, Gerard Doody wrote: Hi all, does this apply to mail as well? Thanks in advance... Gerard Doody jerrydood...@gmail.com > On Dec 10, 2020, at 4:10 AM, Lorie McCloud > wrote: > > are you

Re: How to select items to be moved

2020-12-10 Thread Gerard Doody
Hi all, does this apply to mail as well? Thanks in advance... Gerard Doody jerrydood...@gmail.com > On Dec 10, 2020, at 4:10 AM, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > are you talking about noncontiguous items? > for that, open the folder containing the items you want to copy or move then > interact.

mac OS big sur: progressively getting buggier and buggier as I leave it

2020-12-10 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi all, I can say I am thoroughly disssapointed by the big sur experience. It's trying to act like an ipad, is schizophrenic with the voices, the touch bar almost never works, and a host of other things like the trackpad being overtly sensitive, some of the keyboard commander shortcuts not

Re: The Psychology of technology

2020-12-10 Thread Karen Lewellen
Granted I intend going back to the start of this thread, but I believe symphony pro runs better in the iPad, especially for inclusive composition, or so I recall from another list. On Thu, 10 Dec 2020, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: Thanks for your thoughts on blind folks using

Re: The Psychology of technology

2020-12-10 Thread Ryan Mann
IPad as laptop replacement? I guess it depends on how you define a laptop. Xcode, Apple’s development environment is not available on an iPad, but it is available on a Mac. Since I use Xcode, I couldn’t replace my Mac with an iPad. If you have a laptop that you just use for simple things

Re: Selecting text from a PDF

2020-12-10 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I understand that Chrome and Word can both work with PDF files now… I wonder if either of these has better selection tools. Oh, I believe there is a select VoiceOver cursor text command, though this would not be much different from the copy last spoken phrase except for the avoidance of

Re: Selecting text from a PDF

2020-12-10 Thread Zoe Fiogkos
Hi Brad, I will give it a try. I was hoping not to have to take this extra step but if there is no other way, at least it can still be done. > On Dec 10, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > I would suggest opening the PDF document in Preview, as you have done, then > highlighting the

Re: Mac connected to Amazon Echo

2020-12-10 Thread 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
I'm not sure what you're asking. Can you elaborate? What more would you like to do with the two devices connected? Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me

Re: Selecting text from a PDF

2020-12-10 Thread Brad Snyder
I would suggest opening the PDF document in Preview, as you have done, then highlighting the entire document using CMD + A, and copying the selected text to the clipboard. Then open TextEdit, and paste the clipboard contents to a blank TextEdit document, and hopefully you will now have an

Re: Selecting text from a PDF

2020-12-10 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I can get simple phrases to be copied using the VO-enter move cursor and VO-enter a second time. This will only work for me on chunks of text that are part of the same phrase with no changes in text size or fonts. On web sites, usually if you can get one or two words selected, the rest can be

schedule ahead order

2020-12-10 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
Hi: Has anyone tried to use the schedule ahead for deliver part of Doordash? Tried on my iPhone 8Plus 14.2 iOS. You cannot double tap on schedule ahead. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the

Selecting text from a PDF

2020-12-10 Thread FIOGKOS
Hi everybody I hope somebody can help. I’m not going to lie I have asked on another list and didn’t find an answer I’m hoping somebody here will know the answer to my question. I received a PDF file via email. I saved the attachment to my documents. I opened the PDF with preview. I interact

Re: The Psychology of technology

2020-12-10 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Tracy, I totally get the cute factor. Back in the 90s, when I got my first dial-up modem, my husband and I were in the local computer store. We found this cute, tiny modem, and in the middle of the store full of male computer nerds, I cried out, "Oh, it's so cute!" My husband was mortified.

Re: Permanently stopping auto spellcheck in TextEdit

2020-12-10 Thread Phil Halton
Guess I should’ve looked at preference beers before I asked. Never mind, I found the settings to change Guess I should’ve looked at preferences before I asked. Never mind, I found the settings to change.Sent from my IPhone > On Dec 10, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Phil Halton wrote: > > Is there

Permanently stopping auto spellcheck in TextEdit

2020-12-10 Thread Phil Halton
Is there someway to permanently turn off the auto spellcheck feature in text edit. Currently I have to turn it off each time I use text at it. Is there something in settings or preferences I can use to fix this? Thanks Sent from my IPhone -- The following information is important for all

Re: FN key on Touch Bar macbook

2020-12-10 Thread Brad Snyder
The earlier discussion had to do with the behavior of the NumberRow keys when holding down the Fn key, not the behavior of the TouchBar. - Brad - On Dec 10, 2020, at 10:45, Dave Carlson wrote: Donna, Yes, Just verified on my MBP 2108 with the touchbar. Holding Fn key down and sliding across

Re: mac OS big sur: continued issue with localised voice taking over every second line

2020-12-10 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi Yuma, I experience similar issues using german voices. VoiceOver switches between voices randomly. But not all the time but sometimes. I’ve been watching the voice section in VoiceOver becomming increasingly buggy from OS to OS. Hopefully Apple will fix this quickly. All the best Jürgen >

Re: Finder Question About Folders Opening Automatically

2020-12-10 Thread Steve Matzura
The previews were off. I just forgot about left-arrowing to close the folder. All's well now. On 12/9/2020 8:13 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: Will do that, too. Tnx. On 12/9/2020 8:10 PM, Herbie Allen wrote: Turn off all previews in the menu. On Dec 9, 2020, at 18:55, Steve Matzura wrote:

Re: FN key on Touch Bar macbook

2020-12-10 Thread Muhammad Fayed
Thanks to all of you for the correction. It is clear now how it behaves.  Regards, Mohamed E. Fayed > On Dec 10, 2020, at 6:45 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Donna, > Yes, Just verified on my MBP 2108 with the touchbar. Holding Fn key down and > sliding across the touchbar reads out the

Re: FN key on Touch Bar macbook

2020-12-10 Thread Dave Carlson
Donna, Yes, Just verified on my MBP 2108 with the touchbar. Holding Fn key down and sliding across the touchbar reads out the various f# positions. Dave Carlson Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Farfar, Woodworker, and Pioneer On Dec 10, 2020, at 8:14 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Quicktime in MacOs X Catalina problem

2020-12-10 Thread 'Fann2000' via MacVisionaries
Hi listers, First, I am new to the list. So, greetings to all. Secondly, I used Quictime Pro with some success in Mac OS X previous versions, but under Catalina, the interface is completely different. Apparently QT opens Screenshot App. I can't figure out how to do screen recordings anymore.

Re: The Psychology of technology

2020-12-10 Thread Traci Duncan
Shiny new toy syndrome, I like that! Personally, I love my iPad mini. The size is brilliant. I think this harkens back to my childhood of wanting to be like the sighted students holding textbooks or having diaries. It just feels cute in my arms. Silly, I know. Braille books were huge! There’s

Re: Recorded demo on my M1

2020-12-10 Thread Traci Duncan
I am looking forward to the podcast about side loading apps. That’s awesome! Does this mean you could put the Amazon Alexa app on your Mac? A little side question. How did you get voice to read out the time in that order? Mine says the date first. Also, I like how your battery status read how

Re: FN key on Touch Bar macbook

2020-12-10 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
That's what I said. Donna > On Dec 10, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > Yes, because that is the TouchBar, not the NumberRow keys. > > - Brad - > > > On Dec 10, 2020, at 09:15, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > That's

Re: FN key on Touch Bar macbook

2020-12-10 Thread Brad Snyder
Yes, because that is the TouchBar, not the NumberRow keys. - Brad - On Dec 10, 2020, at 09:15, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: That's interesting, because when I hold down the FN key and touch the touch bar, VO says the function key, e.g. f1, F2, etc. Cheers, Donna > On Dec 10,

Re: FN key on Touch Bar macbook

2020-12-10 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
That's interesting, because when I hold down the FN key and touch the touch bar, VO says the function key, e.g. f1, F2, etc. Cheers, Donna > On Dec 10, 2020, at 9:10 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > Hi Donna, > TouchBar settings have no effect on the behavior of NumberRow keys, when > pressing the

Re: FN key on Touch Bar macbook

2020-12-10 Thread Brad Snyder
Hi Donna, TouchBar settings have no effect on the behavior of NumberRow keys, when pressing the Fn key, with or without the VO modifier. Fn key by itself does nothing. Fn key plus VO modifier, will allow the NumberRow keys to perform VO functions usually performed when using the VO modifier in

Re: The Psychology of technology

2020-12-10 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
I fancy both. Lol But I worry that I’ve just got shiny new toy syndrome. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad > On Dec 10, 2020, at 4:15 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: > > Hi > > I’ve had a couple of iPads in the past and particularly liked the mini but > then I got a MacBook Air as wanted to try one out

Re: FN key on Touch Bar macbook

2020-12-10 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Thanks for the correction, Brad. Because of how I have my unction keys set up, holding down FN and VO and pressing the number keys is the same for me pretty much as having function keys which is why I wrote what I did. But your right, if someone has the function keys set to perform other

Re: The Psychology of technology

2020-12-10 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Obviously, I’m not entirely sure, hence my post. :) What I can say concretely is: I love that it’s smaller and lighter. I have mine paired with a Logitech keyboard which also serves as a case for the iPad. So the whole package is one very portable unit. Though for the reasons I wrote a minute

Re: The Psychology of technology

2020-12-10 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
I would say it’s somewhere in between. The iPad is slower, for one thing, and I find bluetooth keyboards—or at least mine, I don’t have the Apple Magic keyboard—to be a little bit less efficient than just using the keyboard on my Mac. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad > On Dec 10, 2020, at

Re: FN key on Touch Bar macbook

2020-12-10 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Sorry, my bad. It's FN-Vo and the number keys. Donna > On Dec 10, 2020, at 12:44 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > No, Fn key by itself does not make Number Row keys act as F-keys. > > - Brad - > > On Dec 10, 2020, at 00:12, Muhammad Fayed wrote: > > Thank you all so much.  > From both of your

Messages Very Different in Big Sur

2020-12-10 Thread Steve Matzura
Wow! The conversations list is now a collection, and to send a message to someone in the conversations collection, you first have to open the collection and then VO-Right to find the person or thread, not Down Arrow any more. The good thing is that if you just want to send a new message,

mac OS big sur: continued issue with localised voice taking over every second line

2020-12-10 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi All, So I am still having this random issue whenever I'm working which can only be described as follows: prelimiary: voice over alex working fine 1-when scrolling down text edit, every second line stops anouncing, though the line is full of tex 2-alternatingly alex and empty voice as I keep

Re: The Psychology of technology

2020-12-10 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
To my mind an Ipad with an attached keyboard is more comparable to a laptop than to an Iphone. Am I wrong about that? Best, Janina 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries writes: > Why I like it is precisely the question I’m having trouble answering. One > thing, I think, is the attached keyboard.

Re: The Psychology of technology

2020-12-10 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Thanks for your thoughts on blind folks using Ipads, Donna. I've often wondered about that. Personally, I've never owned one and have no particular desire to get one for exactly the reason you cite. I can only see two arguments in favor: * Potential superior speakers for better room

Re: The Psychology of technology

2020-12-10 Thread Angie Nutt
Hi I’ve had a couple of iPads in the past and particularly liked the mini but then I got a MacBook Air as wanted to try one out of curiosity. I find no need for both so no longer use iPad. I prefer typing with my Mac but that’s possibly because the iPad cases with keyboards which I had left a

Re: How to select items to be moved

2020-12-10 Thread Lorie McCloud
are you talking about noncontiguous items? for that, open the folder containing the items you want to copy or move then interact. vo-arrow down to the first item you want to select. press vo-command-return on it. continue in that way till all desired items have been selected. if the items you