Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-04-02 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
erms that I feel I haven’t got a solid grasp of, and > >>>> there’s so much more. So when I was doing the TDSR installation and saw > >>>> some of the commands, it made my blood curdle. I don’t want to give up > >>>> without a good fight though. >

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-31 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
; >>> > >>> What you’ve done sounds great congrats, > >>> > >>> And don’t become an alcoholic, > >>> Become a drunkid > >>> > >>> Alcoholics have to go to meetings > >>> > >>> Drunkids just

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-31 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
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Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-31 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
ssage- > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2020 2:12 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A couple Terminal questions > > Oh, Simon, Simon !! > Perhaps coffee brew the next time? At least it isn't as likely ... > >

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-31 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
t; > > Alcoholics have to go to meetings > > > > Drunkids just keep drinking. > > > > From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > > Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2020 7:08 AM > > To: macvisionaries@googl

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-31 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
go to meetings > > Drunkids just keep drinking. > > From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2020 7:08 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Su

RE: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-31 Thread Simon A Fogarty
ries@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg > Sent: Monday, 30 March 2020 10:47 PM > To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: A couple Terminal questions > > Hi! > What does homebrew actually do? > Is this a library or what? > Thanks. > /A >

RE: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-31 Thread Simon A Fogarty
: A couple Terminal questions Hello Janina, I think I’ve done it. I’ve made TDSR talk with Daniel, British voice. I’m exhausted and my nerves are jangling but I’m so glad. by the time I become a mediocre cli user, I shall probably become an alcoholic too. I got the same warning message I’m

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
ries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Anders Holmberg > Sent: Monday, 30 March 2020 10:47 PM > To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: A couple Terminal questions > > Hi! > What does homebrew actually do? > Is this a library or what? > Thanks. > /A > > > 30 ma

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Andrew: Wow. You are moving forward quickly, Andrew. Congratulations! Quick Comment: I wouldn't worry about TDSR on Linux, unless you want to compare and contrast between it and Speakup and/or Fenrir. Of course, if you prefer it to those other two, by all means add it to your Linux! It also

RE: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Well the last time I had home brew It made me really really ill, I was throwing up for hours. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Monday, 30 March 2020 10:47 PM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: A couple Terminal

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Hello Janina, I think I’ve done it. I’ve made TDSR talk with Daniel, British voice. I’m exhausted and my nerves are jangling but I’m so glad. by the time I become a mediocre cli user, I shall probably become an alcoholic too. I got the same warning message I’m pasting just underneath:

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi Again, Andrew: Yeah, I can't say for sure, but I think I must have steered you to an out of date repository. I checked with my installation which runs as expected and got the following pointer: https://docs.brew.sh If you go there and follow the Installation link, you should have up to

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Andrew: Homebrew should be fine with Sierra. It's possible the link in the page you got from me was old. That would explain the error you got. So, I'm thinking good clear instructions, but an old, out of date web pointer. I'll check that out for you. Meanwhile, there's no damage done. You

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Dear Janina, Ok, so I have gone ahead and installed Homebrew. Everything seems to have gone ok apart from the fact that after executing the command to install Homebrew, I got a warning message saying that this installation was old and unsupported and whether I wanted to go ahead. I ddid go

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
of files and if you use the correct switchs you should > >>> be able to write the list of files and associated data to a file > >>> I know it's possible to do this in ms dos and power shell, so I would > >>> think linux etc would do the same thing. > >>

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
ect to the point you hit the tab key then > >> it should work for you. > >> As long as there is a file or folder name with what your looking for. > >> > >> I use it when typing long commands like > >> Sudo /Applications > >> At the start of t

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread Greg Wocher
e point you hit the tab key then >>> it should work for you. >>> As long as there is a file or folder name with what your looking for. >>> >>> I use it when typing long commands like >>> Sudo /Applications >>> At the start of the creation of a boot

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
pplications >> At the start of the creation of a bootable Usb flash drive. >> >> So as long as you have the name correct including any uppercase or symbols >> in the name then tab complete should be fine >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >>

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Anders: Very excellent answer to your question, plus good instructions for getting homebrew on your mac at this page: https://www.studytonight.com/post/what-is-homebrew-and-how-to-install-it-on-mac-osx Anders Holmberg writes: > Hi! > What does homebrew actually do? > Is this a library or what?

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Andrew: I can, and sbelow will, walk you through getting homebrew installed on your Mac. It's just useful to have it. What it does: Allows you to run a lot of Linux utilities directly on your Mac terminal. Now, for tdsr, which I presume means something like "terminal desktop screen

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! What does homebrew actually do? Is this a library or what? Thanks. /A > 30 mars 2020 kl. 11:33 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > : > > Janina, > > I’ve looked carefully at Greg’s suggestion and then did a search for Homebrew > and TDSR and since the only thing i understand

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Janina, I’ve looked carefully at Greg’s suggestion and then did a search for Homebrew and TDSR and since the only thing i understand about Python is that it is one of the programming languages, I thought I’m too green around the gills to even attempt to play around with TDSR in case I mess up

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Hello Janina, I’m having a big grin on my face as I’m reading your very informative but also witty response. Fabulous! In these tense times, any amount of humour is precious. Take care Andrew > On 30 Mar 2020, at 05:48, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, Andrew: > > Glad

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
e fine > > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > Sent: Monday, 30 March 2020 3:22 AM > To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > Subject: A couple Terminal questions > > Hi, > > When working in Terminal and command line, is i

RE: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread Simon A Fogarty
MacVisionaries Subject: A couple Terminal questions Hi, When working in Terminal and command line, is it possible to examine the window content with Voiceover? Say , ls -l command produces a list of files in the directory I am in. How can I examine each file and maybe even copy their names to clipboard

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Thanks for the reminder, Greg. I'm just now starting the install of TDSR. For me that means an update of homebrew, followed by an upgrade of python3, and that is taking quite some time. Hopeing the result will truly be easier to use than VO in the terminal, as you suggest. That would be a good

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Andrew: Glad to hear you're giving the CLI the old college try. Hope it becomes a very comfortable environment for you! I want to suggest it's important you focus on zsh as Apple now defaults to zsh. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208050. Since you're a beginning command line user, you

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi Jonathan, Andrew, All: With respect to using the tab key in the terminal ... Jonathan Cohn writes: > Your second question was related to file completion. This says too little. Yes, filename completion, but also command completion. In fact the strategy is widely implemented because it helps

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Jonathan, You are so kind. Thank you for your response. I’m new to the command line, but I’m very serious in learning. So your kind attitude and response in non-technical terms is very welcome. As to the 2nd point, I was surprised because I’m following Joe Kissel’s from TitBits Take

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Well, for the first question just interact a few times with the window and you should be able to use the voiceover cursor to review and select things. VO-return should start selecting and vo-return a second time should finish the selection operation. Also, double tapping with mouse will select

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread Greg Wocher
Hello, You might want to try the TDSR console screen reader for Mac. It makes working with the terminal a bit easier. It can be found at: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr Greg Wocher > On Mar 29, 2020, at 10:21 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > wrote:

A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Hi, When working in Terminal and command line, is it possible to examine the window content with Voiceover? Say , ls -l command produces a list of files in the directory I am in. How can I examine each file and maybe even copy their names to clipboard or details about them if I were to use