Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-18 Thread E.T.
isionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver. If you want to discuss the beta’s freely, and you are using at least one beta on 1 of your devices, you can join my beta list Are you testing an apple beta? want to discuss bugs with other testers? Then come join a friendly, help

RE: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
Thanks for this I think I will join this also. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller Sent: Friday, 11 August 2017 3:24 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
Kawal, haha well said and for the record I’m on your side with this one. To me though moderators are more like little power hungry DMV workers who have no control over their own lives so they have to force their wills where they can. (Kawal and folks over sees the DMV is the department of

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
ET, for years the moderator's notes have not really change. They are forever telling someone off and so it is like a kid being naughty doing the same over and over. I'd rather laugh otherwise we'll all get in to a punch up as it were. Don't forget, what are we, people who don't really know

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread E.T.
What I have found, and still find after all these years. amusing is how the "kids" show total lack of maturity. Kawal, you do not need to subject yourself to the whims of the moderators, just show yourself out. Doing so would prove your own maturity. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Sorry, but I find moderator's notes amusing. You don't know how much I laugh because little things turn in to big things. I've not had such a laugh for a long time on this list. May be I'll get in to trouble, but at this point, I am not too worried. Cara sounds like the head mistress, Mark

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Cara Quinn
Thanks ET. Appreciate that. Will read this over as soon as I can. Have a great day! Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 10,

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread E.T.
Apple's public beta NDA agreement at the following link... From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Scott, First off, I have not seen every post from Mark. I can assure you though that if he has inadvertently posted anything that was under beta, it was an accident. I’ve spoken with him and I trust him implicitly otherwise he would not be moderating this list. My understanding is that

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
Yes it really is. When mark posts tens of articles on IOS 11 which is still in beta yet complains when Anders asks a legitimate question that impacts our community there is something clearly wrong. I don’t need to know you personally to know your personal feelings, remember the phrase actions

RE: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread M. Taylor
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 5:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver. Hi mark! I am sorry for that one. Not even public beta questions? If not then i am very sorry to ask this here. /A > 10 aug. 2

Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Cara Quinn
Hey Scott, Why are you saying this policy has to do with personal feelings when you have not taken any time at all to get to know either me or Mark? You have no idea what our personal feelings are on this. -Okay, to be fair, perhaps you have gotten to know Mark unbeknownst to me, but I know

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread E.T.
Resistance is futile. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 8/10/2017 8:23 AM, Scott

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread E.T.
How long does it take to be accepted? Maybe I am too impatient? 3 days? (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Kliphton Miller
If you want to discuss the beta’s freely, and you are using at least one beta on 1 of your devices, you can join my beta list Are you testing an apple beta? want to discuss bugs with other testers? Then come join a friendly, helpful, laid back community where we can squash these bugs

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
Well I know I was invited to join an Apple VIS public beta discussion and like I said, I’ll trust the suits from Harvard a great deal more than any legal advice on list.:) > On Aug 10, 2017, at 11:17 AM, E.T. wrote: > > Even Applevis puts restrictions on

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread E.T.
Even Applevis puts restrictions on discussions regarding betas. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
To answer Anders question, there has been a lot of discussion on the routing of voice over and air play. I have not tried this personally as I’m a google cast man myself but I do know there’s a lot of consternation and unhappy posts on the topic. If we weren’t being treated like children we

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
Why join a list when the rules are based in some arbitrary feeling that is based on personal feelings rather than the law? That’s just silly. Counter to you, on any list I run feel free to discuss public anything as much as you like. Public betas to public flogging, doesn’t matter to me. Nor

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
Ray, again you’re wrong. I have had the council for two companies I have worked for evaluate this and they say not only is it acceptable to discuss public beta items on public lists but it’ was acceptable for me to do so representing the interests of the companies so not only was I protected

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
Anders, for some reason Mark won’t let us discuss what’s available absolutely everywhere else including articles posted to me every day on redmondpie and 9 to 5 Mac among others. Even though it’s critical for we blind to participate in the public betas to report on Voice over issues because

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hello, in answer to this then, you can contact me with any beta discussion at challswor...@icloud.com Please allow some patience as I tend to check email a few days apart. Cheers! > On 10 Aug 2017, at 04:57, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Anders, > > Beta software questions are not

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread christopher hallsworth
I am, and will still stand by mine and the group management thoughts on this. Questions about either Developer or public betas should not be allowed, in my opinion. Nough said. I do not allow such discussion on my own general technology list, which, btw you are more than welcome to join. Please

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Ray Foret jr
Not even public beta questions. Why? Simple. It’s still beta and therefore, falls under Apple’s non disclosure agreement. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi mark! I am sorry for that one. Not even public beta questions? If not then i am very sorry to ask this here. /A > 10 aug. 2017 kl. 05:57 skrev M. Taylor : > > Hello Anders, > > Beta software questions are not for this list. > > If you have beta software questions, you may

RE: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-09 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Anders, Beta software questions are not for this list. If you have beta software questions, you may request that list members contact you, off-list. Please be sure to include your direct email address in the body of the post. Thank you, Mark -Original Message- From: