Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-29 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Strange, I have not experienced this with either my Catalina system or my public beta system with Safari 15. I wonder if it is the sites, or the computer. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Sep 28, 2021, at 20:59, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > I'm having the same issue but it really

Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-28 Thread Mike Arrigo
I'm having the same issue but it really started for me when upgrading to safari 15, I find myself using Chrome and Firefox more and more now. > On Sep 26, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: > > Hi Andrew, > I haven’t updated yet but heard from a number of blind users of this issue. > So

Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-27 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
lFirefox 91 or newer works great on my 5 year old MBA. Have a great time trying it out! Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: > > And if you use an M1 Mac try Fire Fox. Not sure whether Fire Fox works on > Intell too but it works defnitly on M1 Macs. >

Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-27 Thread Tibor Niesner
Hi, did you try delete cookies from Safari settings, secure and privacy?? You will be signed out from all services on the internet, where you are signed in. Best regard Tibor Niesner > 26. 9. 2021 v 18:11, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hi, > > Since upgrading to the most

Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-27 Thread Jürgen Fleger
And if you use an M1 Mac try Fire Fox. Not sure whether Fire Fox works on Intell too but it works defnitly on M1 Macs. All the best Jürgen > Am 27.09.2021 um 17:20 schrieb 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hi, > > It seems to be an issue with the VoiceOver buffer filling up. The

Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-27 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, It seems to be an issue with the VoiceOver buffer filling up. The Quickest way I’ve found to work around it is to turn VOiceOver off, wait a few seconds then turn it back on. Things run smoothly after that for a while. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning

Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-26 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Oh yes I have this issue with Safari. Not sure what to do about that. Its a bit annoying though. /A > 26 sep. 2021 kl. 18:11 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hi, > > Since upgrading to the most recent 11.6 on my macbook pro late 2014, Safari > has become sluggish. I’ve

Re: Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-26 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi Andrew, I haven’t updated yet but heard from a number of blind users of this issue. So it seems to be an issue of this update. All the best Jürgen > Am 26.09.2021 um 18:11 schrieb 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hi, > > Since upgrading to the most recent 11.6 on my macbook

Safari busy again on big sur 11.6

2021-09-26 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Since upgrading to the most recent 11.6 on my macbook pro late 2014, Safari has become sluggish. I’ve cleared the cashes, I keep my mac free from junk. Has anyone else experienced this, and is there anything else I can do? Or is it a matter of my mac being old? It has 16 GB RAM, 512

Re: Safari Busy

2021-08-14 Thread Nebojsa Tasic
Can Big Sur be run on Air 2013? On 14.8.2021. 01:07, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote: On 13/8/21 6:41 pm, Brandon Olivares wrote: Does anyone else have this issue? I’m on Big Sur. I haven't had the issue at all on Big Sur. I'm running it on a late 2013 MacBook Pro - one of the oldest

Re: Safari Busy

2021-08-13 Thread Dave Carlson
Try doing a refresh. Only thing I’ve found to help. Dave Carlson Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer On Aug 13, 2021, at 3:41 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote: Hi, Safari has been freezing a lot. Often when I just open a new window, it’s hard to navigate anywhere because Safari

Re: Safari Busy

2021-08-13 Thread Brandon Olivares
Odd. How many tabs do you have open? I have a lot of tabs open at any given time, so maybe it’s that? Though I have 16 GB of RAM so I wouldn’t think it’s that. > On Aug 13, 2021, at 7:07 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > > On 13/8/21 6:41 pm, Brandon Olivares wrote: > >

Re: Safari Busy

2021-08-13 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
On 13/8/21 6:41 pm, Brandon Olivares wrote: Does anyone else have this issue? I’m on Big Sur. I haven't had the issue at all on Big Sur. I'm running it on a late 2013 MacBook Pro - one of the oldest machines that supports this release. I don't know why it's running into performance issues

Safari Busy

2021-08-13 Thread Brandon Olivares
Hi, Safari has been freezing a lot. Often when I just open a new window, it’s hard to navigate anywhere because Safari keeps saying it’s busy. Also in any window, if I just press cmd+l to get to the address bar, it often freezes. Does anyone else have this issue? I’m on Big Sur. Thanks,

Re: Safari busy on Instacart

2021-04-26 Thread Traci Duncan
Hi, I’m using a MacBook Air 2020. I’ll download 11.3 and see if that makes a difference. Thanks, Traci > On Apr 25, 2021, at 1:00 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > I had no issues on Big Sur 11.3. Not sure if this is fully out to the public > though. > > Best wishes, > >

Re: Safari busy on Instacart

2021-04-25 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I had no issues on Big Sur 11.3. Not sure if this is fully out to the public though. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Apr 25, 2021, at 10:39, Traci Duncan wrote: > > Hi all, I’m trying, or at least trying to try instacart for the first time. > I’ve gotten as far as going

Re: Safari busy on Instacart

2021-04-25 Thread Herbie Allen
I just gave it a try on my end with no problems. I am using a 2019 Mac though and that could be a factor if you are using an older Mac. Make sure you click on the actual Lins That being said, I do agree with Brad that the iOS app will be a much better experience. If you are an Android user that

Re: Safari busy on Instacart

2021-04-25 Thread Brad Snyder
Have you tried using the iOS app on an iPhone or iPad? I usually find that a dedicated app is much simpler then trying to navigate a webpage with a browser. - Brad - On Apr 25, 2021, at 09:39, Traci Duncan wrote: Hi all, I’m trying, or at least trying to try instacart for the first time.

Safari busy on Instacart

2021-04-25 Thread Traci Duncan
Hi all, I’m trying, or at least trying to try instacart for the first time. I’ve gotten as far as going to a grocery store page, but then Safari gets stuck on busy. Any tips on getting passed this? Thanks, Traci -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-05 Thread 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries
'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Hi, > > I went to this site as well and am not experiencing the "Safari busy". > Sometimes, when VO is set to Grouping mode for browsing, you will notice a > lag

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-05 Thread Lorie McCloud
I'm looking for the checkbox for "press tab to highlight each item". is that in the vo utility and if so, where? thanks. Lorie > On Nov 4, 2019, at 12:32 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > I went to this site as well and am not e

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread Dave Carlson
Yes, it means they are already hidden. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
toolbar, status bar, tab bar, and anything else I could think of in the View menu of Safari. My “Safari Busy” went away and life is good again. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Ma

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
perienced. I hid my bookmarks, > reading list, toolbar, status bar, tab bar, and anything else I could think > of in the View menu of Safari. My “Safari Busy” went away and life is good > again. > > Dave Carlson > Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Hi, > > I went to this site as well and am not experiencing the "Safari busy". > Sometimes, when VO is set to Grouping mode for browsing, you will notice a > lag as

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread Lorie McCloud
Tim, do you set this stuff in Safari or vo? thanks. > On Nov 4, 2019, at 12:32 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > I went to this site as well and am not experiencing the "Safari busy". > Sometimes, when VO is set to Grouping mod

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I went to this site as well and am not experiencing the "Safari busy". Sometimes, when VO is set to Grouping mode for browsing, you will notice a lag as VO fills the buffer for certain groups. A couple of things one can try here is to change to DOM mode on that site, or to t

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread Anders Holmberg
k on again. sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't. >> >>> On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:38 PM, Eric Brinkman >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I am hearing "Safari busy" way too often on my Mac. I just visited >>>

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread John Panarese
ng if you are suffering from what I experienced. I hid my bookmarks, > reading list, toolbar, status bar, tab bar, and anything else I could think > of in the View menu of Safari. My “Safari Busy” went away and life is good > again. > > Dave Carlson > Pioneer, Farfar, Oreg

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread Dave Carlson
Wondering if you are suffering from what I experienced. I hid my bookmarks, reading list, toolbar, status bar, tab bar, and anything else I could think of in the View menu of Safari. My “Safari Busy” went away and life is good again. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries
"Safari busy" way too often on my Mac. I just visited allmusic.com and tried to look up an artist and read the bio and some album reviews. When I first accessed the site, VO would say "Safari busy" but would work eventually. Then when I got to the artist's actual page, it ju

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-04 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
For me, I don’t get Safari busy often at all. Well, on sites with a lot of video and bad coding, yes, but I’ve learned to just avoid those sites. Running macOS Catalina on a MacBook Pro 2019. > On Nov 3, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > Hi Andrew > > You don't n

RE: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-03 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Andrew You don't need to buy a pc as you just need bootcamp which is built in to your mac. -Original Message- From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries Sent: Sunday, 3 November 2019 8:07 AM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-02 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
conds and turn > it back on again. sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't. > >> On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:38 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I am hearing "Safari busy" way too often on my Mac. I just visited >> allmusic.com an

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-02 Thread Eric Brinkman
loaded. I'm not running catalina > yet. a work around I have found is to turn vo off, wait for a few seconds > and turn it back on again. sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't. > >> On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:38 PM, Eric Brinkman >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >>

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-02 Thread Lorie McCloud
. > On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:38 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am hearing "Safari busy" way too often on my Mac. I just visited > allmusic.com and tried to look up an artist and read the bio and some > album reviews. When I first accessed the site, VO woul

Re: Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-02 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
my mind. But I have no solution sadly. Andrew > On 2 Nov 2019, at 17:38, Eric Brinkman wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am hearing "Safari busy" way too often on my Mac. I just visited > allmusic.com and tried to look up an artist and read the bio and some > album

Safari busy way too often, tired of Apple's quality control issues

2019-11-02 Thread Eric Brinkman
Hi all, I am hearing "Safari busy" way too often on my Mac. I just visited allmusic.com and tried to look up an artist and read the bio and some album reviews. When I first accessed the site, VO would say "Safari busy" but would work eventually. Then when I got to the

Re: sick of safari busy

2019-01-14 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Frankly, I find it helpful to use multiple browsers. They don't all work the same way, and I've found one browser may well work more to my liking on certain pages, whereas a different browser works more to my liking on other pages. Then there are the poorly coded web pages that may frustrate a

Re: sick of safari busy

2019-01-14 Thread Lorie McCloud
wrote: > > Hello, > > I rarely encounter safari busy messages anymore as compared with beEl Capitan > Safari. The only other accessible browser on the Macintosh is Chrome which > will occasionally work better. I do believe that Facebook still can cause > Safari to

Re: sick of safari busy

2019-01-14 Thread Marie Lyons
Thanks for the input. Marie Lyons Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 14, 2019, at 10:01 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > Well, you might try google chrome but for me chrome is worse than ever in > getting busy so i am not sure. > /A > >> 13 jan. 2019 kl. 22:52 skrev Marie Lyons : >> >>

Re: sick of safari busy

2019-01-14 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Well, you might try google chrome but for me chrome is worse than ever in getting busy so i am not sure. /A > 13 jan. 2019 kl. 22:52 skrev Marie Lyons : > > Would using another browser Help? What ones are the best with accessibility? > > Marie Lyons > > -- > The following information is

Re: sick of safari busy

2019-01-13 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Hello, I rarely encounter safari busy messages anymore as compared with beEl Capitan Safari. The only other accessible browser on the Macintosh is Chrome which will occasionally work better. I do believe that Facebook still can cause Safari to get confused if you have cursor tracking

sick of safari busy

2019-01-13 Thread Marie Lyons
Would using another browser Help? What ones are the best with accessibility? Marie Lyons -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-18 Thread Anouk Radix
I downloaded cleanmymac 3 and have run its scan. Hopefully it will help. Indeed it does not seem to occur with all websites but with some it does and it is consistent. I will have to monitor with which ones specifically and once I find out i will mail apple accessebility. Greetings, Anouk, > On

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-18 Thread Anouk Radix
Hi Emrah, in the past i tried repairing disk permissions and that seemed to help at the time but that does not seem to fix anything for me under the current os version. Greetings, Anouk, > On 17 Jan 2018, at 19:58, Emrah wrote: > > Anouk, > Good point with Mail. I was thinking

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread Marshall Scott
> Marshall > Hi, Folks, I hope you are reporting this issue to Apple Accessibility. I had a similar problem a couple of weeks ago and after spending some time on the phone with them, the Apple person was able to reproduce the problem. Something in the website (Audible) was using up 100

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Emrah, I half to do this periodically with my Avid Pro tools box. It definitely clears "VoiceOver's" throat! ;) Talk soon Chuck "God does not play dice with the universe" "Albert Einstein’ On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Emrah wrote: > Chuck, > I just went ahead and executed on your

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread Emrah
Chuck, I just went ahead and executed on your instructions. I don't know if it's just a placebo effect, but I'm already feeling some improvement without rebooting. Haven't done much yet, but if this really has solved my major issues, I'll be so very grateful to you. Seriously, it's a life-savor

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread Jonathan Cohn
VoiceOver definitely does multithreading. There appear to be separate threads for each active window plus a few. I can't remember now but I believe that most MAcOS programs can dynamically adjust their threads based on needs. One other neat feature is that if an Application is full screen, the OS

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Emrah, Heres an apple tech tip on how to clear sluggish VO movement by deleting the Caches folder. This helps minimize the "busy" issue for me. :) Basic steps below; To empty out the Caches folder on your computer, you’ll need to open up Finder first. With Voiceover on, you can press V O

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread Emrah
Anouk, Good point with Mail. I was thinking about mentioning it as I was trying to get to this thread of conversation with my busy busy mail App, and then saw your message. Indeed, Mail is also a pain. I'm running the latest updates, but have not tried using a different account. What I did

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread Anouk Radix
I am using the newest version of os x and it is fully updated. > On 17 Jan 2018, at 16:02, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > Well, you didn't indicate if you have upgraded to the latest version of the > OS. Also, have you looked to see if the problems persist when creating a >

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Well, you didn't indicate if you have upgraded to the latest version of the OS. Also, have you looked to see if the problems persist when creating a temporary account or using the "guest" account on the system. This is a good way to see if the slowdowns are a system issue or a configuration issue.

Re: Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread Anouk Radix
Hi, I have the seem problem with my 2013 macbook air with core i7 and 8gb of ram. Safari is constantly busy as is often mail. I have no such problems on ios but os x with voiceover is REALLY sluggish. And while braille is better then in the last release its still worse then what it used to be.

Safari busy busy busy busy is driving me crazy

2018-01-17 Thread Emrah
Hi good people, I'm seriously starting to lose it with Mac OS, and iOS in general. I have a Macbook Air 11" early 2015 with a Core I7 and 8GB ram, and my overall experience with the OS is super unpleasant. Everything feels slow and sluggish, Safari is constantly overwhelmed, even on Apple

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-27 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Yes this is a big issue for me too. I don’t know where to send support for chrome either. /A > 23 juni 2017 kl. 15:56 skrev Mike Arrigo : > > For me, when I type in any text field, assuming keyboard echo is set to > character in voiceover, the characters are not spoken,

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-26 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Sorry for the late answer. I use voiceover. I don’t know anything about how to install chromevox and have never needed to do that but i think i will try it out. /A > 22 juni 2017 kl. 23:34 skrev Mike Arrigo : > > When using chrome, do you use voiceover or chromevox? I find

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-25 Thread Mike Arrigo
I use the U.K. male voice, the nuance voices are definitely very unresponsive with chromevox. > On Jun 24, 2017, at 2:49 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > Interesting. Well, I was using the inhanced version of Tom, (the voice I > always use for VO nowadays). I saw that a

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-24 Thread Ray Foret jr
Interesting. Well, I was using the inhanced version of Tom, (the voice I always use for VO nowadays). I saw that a number of other google voices were available but could only identify Lowis as a US English voice and a couple of UK voices and some others that looked like they were not English.

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-24 Thread Mike Arrigo
Which voice did you use? With many of the mac voices chromevox is very unresponsive, using one of the google voices works much better. > On Jun 24, 2017, at 6:24 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > For my part, I found Chromevox so sluggish while running Voice Over that I >

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Use ctrl-cmd-a-a to toggle ChromeVox on and off. I usually don't have both running simultaneously, but do in some rare cases. I've set CV to have the female Susan voice, and VO to be Alex, so I know which one is talking to me at any given time. You can change the speech rate of CV on

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-24 Thread Ray Foret jr
For my part, I found Chromevox so sluggish while running Voice Over that I offloaded it from my Mac. It didn’t seem to aknowledge key presses at all. Tried trning VO off and no good. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Can ChromeVox be activated and deactivated on the fly? In the past, there were issues if the two were running simultaneously and one had to off-load VoiceOver to run ChromeVox. Still the case? Andrew > On 23 Jun 2017, at 03:36, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > I use both.

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, This link should work fine. https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html Note that Chrome, like Safari, has the ability to sync bookmarks and such across devices. If you sign into Chrome as opposed to simply signing

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Tim, Very cool. Would you happen to have a good link to get Chrome for my mac mini? I ask because I need a safe link because I am going to install it on my Work box and don't want to be guessing did I find the correct download link. Thanks again for all your diligent hard work. :) Chuck On

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread Ray Foret jr
Well thanks Tim. you duh man!! I’ll give it a try sometime this weekend. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread Ray Foret jr
Now that is very curious. My keyboard echo is set to words, but wen I type in my e-mail address in to a user name field in Crome, I get character by character spoken just fine. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread Tim Kilburn
Ray, The video you were watching probably was focusing on the use of ChromeVox on a ChromeBook. ChromeBooks are a totally different entity both from Mac and Windows. To finally get to your question though, using ChromeVox on the Mac uses the ctrl and cmd keys much in the same way as you use

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread Mike Arrigo
The chromevox key on a mac is control+command I think. Original message: So Tim, I looked at the video on Cromevox. What I ain’t understandin’ is this here. What key on the Mac keyboard works as the “search” key? I reckon that what they call the alt key is equivalent to the Mac’s option key

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-23 Thread Mike Arrigo
For me, when I type in any text field, assuming keyboard echo is set to character in voiceover, the characters are not spoken, and it happens on all of my macs. Original message: Now it’s interesting you should mention about the text not being spoken. Whenever I enter my user name in to the

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Ray Foret jr
So Tim, I looked at the video on Cromevox. What I ain’t understandin’ is this here. What key on the Mac keyboard works as the “search” key? I reckon that what they call the alt key is equivalent to the Mac’s option key but more info would be appreciated. Tell you what, Crome does seem to

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I use both. Normally, when I go into Chrome, it's because something isn't working right in Safari, so I use ChromeVox. When in some G Suite features like Docs and Sheets, ChromeVox works better. The Admin Panel within the G Suite is also easier to navigate with ChromeVox, although there

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Ray Foret jr
Now it’s interesting you should mention about the text not being spoken. Whenever I enter my user name in to the user name or user ID fields of the sites in to which I have logged on so far with Crome, the text has always spoken character by character. Now, do you mean they are not spoken

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Mike Arrigo
I wonder if firefox will ever be useable on the Mac. They have made it accessible on windows, android and IOS, hopefully they will spend some time on the mac version as well. > On Jun 22, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > I'm glad this came up. I was also still under

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Mike Arrigo
There is one major issue with using chrome and voiceover, when typing in text fields, the characters you type do not speak and the deleted character is not spoken when pressing backspace. The other current issue that I know of is that elements that are clickable but are not actually links are

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Alex Hall
I'm glad this came up. I was also still under the impression that Chrome required ChromeVox to be at all usable, and I resented Google making me learn yet another screen reader just to use their browser. I'm happy to know I'm wrong about this, and I'll give Chrome another look. It will be

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Ray Foret jr
Actually, growing quickly to love Google crome now!!! It’s already my default browser and I’ve imported all my Safari bookmarks. I haven’t bothered to load Cromevox because as yet, I see no need for it. Should I? Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Its good to have both browsers. For example i don’t like youtube in safari but on chrome its always a hit. /A > 21 juni 2017 kl. 22:35 skrev Tim Kilburn : > > Hi, > > Actually, Chrome works very well on a Mac. It handles Google Apps services > slightly better than Safari

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Mike Arrigo
When using chrome, do you use voiceover or chromevox? I find the access with voiceover similar in both browsers, but there are times when chromevox will allow access to a site that voiceover has a problem with. > On Jun 22, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > >

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I have it here but am not sure who recommended it. It is accessible but why don’t you like chrome? /A > 21 juni 2017 kl. 22:19 skrev Ray Foret jr : > > I will not touch Google Crome: but, what is this here thing called Lightning > Browser? I reckon it’s accessible?

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Ray Foret jr
Say, liking Crome so far. Have you gotten stuff like Rumola to work using Crome? Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone7+

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Scott Granados
Ray, Google has put a lot of work in to accessibility across the board. Worth a second look if you have the time. > On Jun 21, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > It is just that from what I heard, it was impossible to use with Voice Over > so you had to

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-22 Thread Scott Granados
That’s pretty much my use case as well. If Safari chokes on a site chrome usually gets it done and vise versa. Also, there are times when things on safari aren’t accessible but more controls and features are available on chrome. On the windows side I used to use Firefox as well as a third

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2017-06-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Yes, there is a screen reader available within Chrome as well. It's called ChromeVox and is also useful when browsing. It's improved a lot since its inception, but I still prefer VO when on the Mac. Later Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 21, 2017, at 14:48, Ray Foret jr

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2017-06-21 Thread Ray Foret jr
Well, I reckon I’ll have to revisit my assumptions them. Thanks. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!

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2017-06-21 Thread Ray Foret jr
It is just that from what I heard, it was impossible to use with Voice Over so you had to download a special google voice package for it or something. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Actually, Chrome works very well on a Mac. It handles Google Apps services slightly better than Safari does. It works well with VO, as in things like the Item Chooser and other web-router items work fairly well in it. I swap back and forth between the two quite often when certain sites

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2017-06-21 Thread Mary Otten
It's an android browser, and not relevant if you're using a Mac. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 21, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > I will not touch Google Crome: but, what is this here thing called Lightning > Browser? I reckon it’s accessible? > > >

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Scott Granados
What’s wrong with google chrome out of curiosity? > On Jun 21, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > I will not touch Google Crome: but, what is this here thing called Lightning > Browser? I reckon it’s accessible? > > > Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with

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2017-06-21 Thread Ray Foret jr
I will not touch Google Crome: but, what is this here thing called Lightning Browser? I reckon it’s accessible? Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance,

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Scott Granados
+1 to chrome here. > On Jun 21, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > Have you tried with lightning webbrowser or google chrome? > /A >> 21 juni 2017 kl. 16:48 skrev Ray Foret jr > >: >> >> Well, one

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2017-06-21 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Have you tried with lightning webbrowser or google chrome? /A > 21 juni 2017 kl. 16:48 skrev Ray Foret jr : > > Well, one thing’s for sure. You can forget > www.walmart.com > > With the Mac, the site is totally impossible to log in to. You

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I occasionally get this type of error though usually in the web composing area of twitter or Facebook where there is text input and a completion list. This is less likely to occur if you don't have mouse follow VoiceOver enabled and even less likely if you disable tracking altogether on these

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, This sort of thing usually happens either with a large amount of content, or if there are a lot of live regions that are constantly refreshing themselves. I don't believe that it is a Safari problem, more of a VO buffer loading concern, but that's just my thoughts. A couple of tricks

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-21 Thread Ray Foret jr
Well, one thing’s for sure. You can forget www.walmart.com With the Mac, the site is totally impossible to log in to. You get stuck and cannot go anywhere. You actually have to force quit Safari to be able to do anything with it at all afterward. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with

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2017-06-21 Thread Donna Goodin
Thanks for the explanation, Alex. I've obviously never done this, but it's very good info to have. Cheers, Donna > On Jun 21, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Sorry if my message wasn't clear. Pressing cmd-option-shift-ctrl-period is > how you take a diagnostic

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2017-06-21 Thread Alex Hall
Sorry if my message wasn't clear. Pressing cmd-option-shift-ctrl-period is how you take a diagnostic snapshot on the Mac. After anywhere from two to five minutes, Finder opens with focus on the compressed file, which is still very large. You then send this file, along with a description of the

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2017-06-21 Thread Donna Goodin
Alex, What is that CMD-Option-CTRL-period? I've tried pressing it and it does nothing. Cheers, Donna > On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:27 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > > I use Safari. On rare occasions I'll get busy messages that make a page hard > to use, but it's uncommon enough that I

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2017-06-21 Thread Alex Hall
I use Safari. On rare occasions I'll get busy messages that make a page hard to use, but it's uncommon enough that I don't really worry about it. That said, I've heard plenty of people say they experience what you do. I have no idea why this happens to some and not others. All I can suggest is

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