RE: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
2016 8:20 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: amazon's accesability contact. Simon, There is a fine chance that you might. At the very least NZ Ratified the UN Convention on the rights of people with disabilities a few years back. In many countries the treaty carries the rule

RE: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
: amazon's accesability contact. Simon, Yeah I know. If blind people were better educated and better qualified. it might be a different story. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 8/17/2016 3:49 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > ET, > > I

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-17 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi Mary, I am sorry if you feel I am speaking in any way unfavorably to MR. Korn's dedication. I am not, since how he personally feels about accessibility is less important than his ability to insure fully that Amazon's website complies with standards. As for Kindle progress, I will defer

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-17 Thread E.T.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: amazon's accesability contact. No offense on the "excess ability wording so to play on it a bit... If this upper management is supposed to deal with accessibility, then is it not obvious they do not know the nuts and bolts thus they need to hear

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-17 Thread Mary Otten
Well, if you look at what they have done with their Kindle devices in the last year or year and a half, plus how they have made the Alexa Apple whole lot more usable, I would say they're moving in the right direction. They are also moving in the right direction with their screen reader on the

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-17 Thread Karen Lewellen
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2016 4:19 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: amazon's accesability contact. No offense on the "excess ability wording so to play on it a bit... If this upper management is supposed to

RE: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-17 Thread Karen Lewellen
this! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2016 3:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: amazon's accesability contact. Ehh? Ka! Brown Noser

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-17 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi Mary, Peter Korn's official title is archetype. In a way that at least suggests that he deals directly with the development and implementation of access standards in Amazon products. Far more so than say if he was a VP of management. It is not a question of his focus upon what looks

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-17 Thread E.T.
Subject: Re: amazon's accesability contact. No offense on the "excess ability wording so to play on it a bit... If this upper management is supposed to deal with accessibility, then is it not obvious they do not know the nuts and bolts thus they need to hear from those these ef

RE: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-17 Thread Simon Fogarty
August 2016 4:19 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: amazon's accesability contact. No offense on the "excess ability wording so to play on it a bit... If this upper management is supposed to deal with accessibility, then is it not obvious they do not know the nuts and

RE: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-17 Thread Simon Fogarty
2016 3:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: amazon's accesability contact. Ehh? Ka! Brown Noser! You sure know your stuff. LOL! NO, I'm just kidding with ya. but Seriously though, thank you for the information. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Mary Otten
Peter corn is a guy with decades of experience in the excess ability field. He is not some guy with a disability that some company put front and center just to make something look good. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
As I said before yes. the guidelines are incorporated into legal requirements in many countries. My swift google of MR. Korne reveals he is rather strong in the creation of tools...worked on outspoken, with some Linux structures as well.He may be surprised to learn himself of the

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread E.T.
It starts with the first step. But was that not already taken a long time ago? The W3C guidelines, are they just that? Or have they been adopted and agreed upon? Is there any legal teeth in then? From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
Honestly that depends on Mr. Korn's personal background. Sometimes management leads with their own experience of a disability, instead of recognizing that inclusion refers to the floor not the person using the floor. One does not find a different Walmart for those arriving in a van

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Mary Otten
No. Peter corn has been doing accessibility for a very long time. He certainly is familiar with the guidelines and the nuts and the bolts. But he is not going nor should we expect him to answer everyone's complaint. They certainly should have people further down the line from Peter corn who can

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
Indeed, there should be no separate site. after all access is more than about screen readers. How an individual interacts is tied to other things.the changes to the so called access site are rather new. I agree about the watered down functionality as well. Unless this has changed

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread E.T.
No offense on the "excess ability wording so to play on it a bit... If this upper management is supposed to deal with accessibility, then is it not obvious they do not know the nuts and bolts thus they need to hear from those these efforts is supposedly aimed at? From E.T.'s Keyboard...

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Mary Otten
The broader problem is having a separate site for screaming ears at all. I have been on that site, not recently. When I was on it, it was very simplistic. It didn't offer anything like the full experience. But I didn't see anything that required a mouse. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16,

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Mary Otten
I know for a fact that Peter corn is the head of the excess ability initiative and Amazon. I don't know who to take it too. I do know just as a general rule the people who are in charge of large efforts are not in the habit of answering nuts and bolts? This on an individual basis, just based on

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
I suppose I will find out as I sent him a copy of the email I provided the accessibility feedback team. Speaking only for myself, I would hope he took an interest. The lack of keyboard interaction, most notably on the areas defined as being for screen reader use does not reflect well on

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread E.T.
Mary, Do you know this for a fact or are you speculating? If Peter Korn is not the one to take it to, then who or what or where? From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 8/16/2016 8:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Given the fact that the email address

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:43 PM > Subject: Re: amazon's accesability contact. > > > > wacg 2.0 is based in keyboard input, not operating system. I am told > > by > > amazon that I can download using my

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread E.T.
Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewel...@shellworld.net> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 11:38 PM Subject: Re: amazon's accesability contact. web access c

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Subject: Re: amazon's accesability contact. Given the fact that the email address you have is for Peter corn, the excess ability head guy at Amazon, I wouldn't expect a reply from that address from him personally. That sounds like something that would not be something he would directly deal wit

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
: "Karen Lewellen" <klewel...@shellworld.net> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 11:38 PM Subject: Re: amazon's accesability contact. web access content guidelines, 2.0 developed by the w3c, these rules govern accessibility and inclus

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Mary Otten
Given the fact that the email address you have is for Peter corn, the excess ability head guy at Amazon, I wouldn't expect a reply from that address from him personally. That sounds like something that would not be something he would directly deal with as head of the whole department. Mary

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewel...@shellworld.net> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re:

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
hellworld.net> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: amazon's accesability contact. wacg 2.0 is based in keyboard input, not operating system. I am told by amazon that I can download using my keyboard, no extra downloader required. hopeful

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
rnold Schmidt" <arno...@mindspring.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:27 PM Subject: Re: amazon's accesability contact. I know nothing about how accessible it is, I am just passing along what I found. In Windows, one needs the Amazon mp3

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread E.T.
Well. This was shared some time ago so may be out of service now, who knows. pk...@amazon.com From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 8/16/2016 6:51 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: ...and when I go to the your orders page and choose digital orders,

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
...and when I go to the your orders page and choose digital orders, and locate my items, and choose download your music...I reach an error that says "we are having a problem with your music orders. I spent 2.5 hours with Amazon on the issue...which is why my question is for a direct

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread E.T.
Mark Taylor posted some information probably last year about downloading music via web interface. I have not done this as I have not bought music in a while. I am pasting below the information Amazon sent to Mark. As an alternative, you can download your music directly through your web

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
wacg 2.0 is based in keyboard input, not operating system. I am told by amazon that I can download using my keyboard, no extra downloader required. hopefully your tips will help others, but it will not help here...which is why I desire the amazon contact. thanks, Kare On Tue, 16 Aug 2016,

Re: amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I know nothing about how accessible it is, I am just passing along what I found. In Windows, one needs the Amazon mp3 downloader to download these files. I googled to find out if there is such a thing for the mac, and apparently there is. Google Amazon mp3 downloader for mac, and if it finds

amazon's accesability contact.

2016-08-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi folks, I am asking here because I believe someone before shared their name and e-mail. I am beyond dismayed that I cannot download the mp3 items, three files, that I have purchased. Amazon seems to be force feeding their library program, which I am told by a supervisor should not be the