Re: off topic: the palm pre?

2009-07-18 Thread Victor Tsaran
No, it doesn't, but there is an SDK that may enable external developers to build one. Vic On 7/18/2009 12:01 AM, william lomas wrote: hi does anyone know if the palm pre has builtin speech support like the iphone 3gs? WIll -- --- I tweet about music and accessibility at

Re: off topic: the palm pre?

2009-07-18 Thread Brett Campbell
Built in? Hell no. But for an additional fee you've got it. On Jul 18, 2009, at 1:01 AM, william lomas wrote: hi does anyone know if the palm pre has builtin speech support like the iphone 3gs? WIll --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Victor Tsaran
Beware, however, that even though you can lock control and option keys, you will find yourself in frequent situations where you need to unlock them, e.g. when browsing the web or trying to interact with various objects (tables, HTML CONTENT areas etc). It does get a little annoying to use

Re: introduction/noob questions(longish)

2009-07-18 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Anowk, Omnipage is virtually obsolete for the Mac. It hasn't been updated for around 8 years! Readiris does an excellent job. It handles page orientation and can automatically open the processed document in whatever text editor you like. I use VueScan with Readiris as VueScan

Re: Apple plans to blick rival smart phones

2009-07-18 Thread James Nash
It rarely is Josh. Than you for allowing this article to be posted. Take care James - Original Message - From: Josh de Lioncourt To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:23 AM Subject: Re: Apple plans to blick rival smart phones I don't

RE: IPhones

2009-07-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
Alex, Yeah the 16 is all I need but hay when you can double your storage for 200 dollars, y buy the smaller sized one. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen Sent: Saturday, 18 July 2009 11:56

Could you please explain how Item chooser more powerful?

2009-07-18 Thread James Nash
Hello Josh, Could you please explain a bit more about how exactly it is more powerful? Everytime I've used it Item Chooser seemed to be just a smart search that was clever enough to only show results which contained certain letters. Thanks James - Original Message -

RE: Article Slamming the iPhone

2009-07-18 Thread Jude DaShiell
Any access technology developer who thinks that way so far as I'm concerned has nothing of any worth left to offer. On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, Larry Wanger wrote: Who cares if we win them over. We talk with our pocket books and, if enough of us stop paying thousands for their products and

IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi folks, Just wondering how many of you that are now using the Ipone 3gs, are totally blind rather than the partially / Visually impaired users. The device to me sounds more like it's for a VI person than a totally blind person. I'm total and I'm trying to compare this for useage /

Re: Could you please explain how Item chooser more powerful?

2009-07-18 Thread patrickneazer
Hello James and all: Well, I can give an example of the power of the item chooser which might shed some light. When using facebook in the beginning I was completely lost. Specifically, as you know, there is a feature on facebook which allows you to send a private message to someone. For

Re: Article Slamming the iPhone

2009-07-18 Thread James Nash
I too would like to read this article. However, competition is a good thing. We should rmember that Apple is first and foremost a commercial vender and accessibility is not necessarily at the top of their list although they have done, and I am sure will continue to do a fantastic job.

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread william lomas
simon which s sixty phone do you use? On 18 Jul 2009, at 12:10, Simon Fogarty wrote: Hi folks, Just wondering how many of you that are now using the Ipone 3gs, are totally blind rather than the partially / Visually impaired users. The device to me sounds more like it's for a VI person

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Simon, I'm totally blind and no longer young, but I'm gettng on great with my iPhone. I can read mail, compose and send mail, check the weather, surf the Net using Safari, get directions to where I want to go using either Maps or Navigon, listen to music and audio books, read and

Re: introduction/noob questions(longish)

2009-07-18 Thread a radix
Hello, Thank you anne for this info. Maybe I am being prejudiced here (quite possible) bu tI havent heard that much about readiris at all as an ocr package in comparison with finereader and omnipage. As I said I always need to scan books for school and also lots of articles which often are not

mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread a radix
Hi, Do you actually need the numeric keypad to use voicover? I thought it was optional. If it is optional then there is not much difference imo between using it on a laptop or a pc... Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - From: Victor Tsaran vtsa...@gmail.com To:

Re: mac support/warranty, does it matter where you buy?

2009-07-18 Thread a radix
Hi thank you (and Alex too) for all your quick responses and info. I am still not sure, I am going to read the vo manual today, bu tI will look around in nl (on the web that is) if I import from the usa there will be HUGE vat and customs charges, customs are really strict here so after some

Re: searching for specefic text on a webpage

2009-07-18 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
My main complaint with item chooser is that it does not work properly if VO lock is enabled. The find command accespts letter keys as letters when in VO-lock while the item chooser just beeps and won't even let you turn off vo-lock. Since I am running on a 5 year old Macintosh this is a

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Anowk, A numeric keypad is not necessary for VoiceOver, it's just another option. I prefer not to use one but I suspect I'm in the minority there. With VoiceOver, there is very rarely just one way of doing something. Very few of us have had any formal training in VoiceOver, so we tend

Re: searching for specefic text on a webpage

2009-07-18 Thread patrickneazer
Hello Jonathan and all: It would appear your complaint is with vo lock and not with item chooser. with vo lock enabled, there are many things you cannot do. For example, if I wanted to type this email with vo locked that would not work either because of the reality of vo being locked and

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Hello Simon had a good question. Now, I would like to add to it. Would the totally blind iphone users also tell us which of the features they are using. I'm especially wanting to hear about emails or any feature where you have to type. My brother tells me the two finger system that it

Re: Could you please explain how Item chooser more powerful?

2009-07-18 Thread Mark Baxter
I, too, like the items chooser, but I find that if I try to use it to navigate in Mail to a certain spot in the message, it won't work. Here's my scenario: I have an E-mail with a bunch of links in it or downloading material. I want to download from a link which is almost at the end, and

Re: jumping on the itunes store

2009-07-18 Thread Mark Baxter
Mr. Macky; that's funny, nnkay? :) But if it's stuttering like that, try doing software update to the newest version. Otherwise, you might have to rename your computer to Ms. Chokes on disks. ... Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My

Re: jumping on the itunes store

2009-07-18 Thread Jenny Kennedy (Howard)
Mark, I'll have to give software update a go. LOL! Ms. Chokes on disks. LOL That's great! I nearly spit out the mouth full of tea all over the place when I read that :-) That's really good! Best Wishes Jenny Kennedy (Howard) blueskyes9112...@gmail.com Olathe, Kansas USA Join me on

Re: jumping on the itunes store

2009-07-18 Thread Dan Eickmeier
I've noticed this as well, ever since maybe iTunes 8.2? It started after one of the updates to iTunes, since we've had access to the store. It's not the amount of ram in this Mac, as I've got 4 gigs in it. Not sure what it could be. On Jul 18, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

Re: Buying from Amazon

2009-07-18 Thread mike reiser
Can you get it custom built? I'm asking cause I want to get it with 4 gigs of ram and a 500 gig drive. Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email

Problem with arcive utility

2009-07-18 Thread matthew T dyer
Hello all. I have a couple of books from bookshare that I would liike to unzip, but when doing so I receive a message the it is unable to unarcive to this folder downloads. How do I get around this problem? I have no problems with anything else. Is there another problem I need to use

Re: Could you please explain how Item chooser more powerful?

2009-07-18 Thread erik burggraaf
Hum, I think you're way off base on most of this stuff. I've never had any trouble with the dock no matter what configuration my cursers are being tracked in. I can replicate the issue where the control option lock won't turn off in the item chooser though, that's almost sertainly a

Exporting Itune purchases to MP?

2009-07-18 Thread Kamal Haffar
Hi all: Is it possible to export purchased music from ITune to MP3? Thanks, Kamal --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: Buying from Amazon

2009-07-18 Thread James Nash
Unfortunately not. You can only buy what thy've got in stock it would appear. - Original Message - From: mike reiser blindgu...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Buying from Amazon Can you get it custom built? I'm

Re: Could you please explain how Item chooser more powerful?

2009-07-18 Thread patrickneazer
Hello Jonathan and all: Mark. I just attempted to send a reply to this via your hotmail account. It comes back as undeliverable regardless of which mail I send it from. Is it still operative? Attempted to send a tip or two using the item chooser. In short, the item chooser located your

Re: Could you please explain how Item chooser more powerful?

2009-07-18 Thread Mark Baxter
That's amazing. Wonderful example of intuitional / experiential problem solving. I didn't think of using VO F to find the item; I've only had my mac six months and I'm still in the wonderment stage at how powerful and right-feeling this intuitional OS thing really is. :) Mark BurningHawk

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Games? i'm glad to hear of everyone's success. Since my falling out with sprint over their converting my unlimited data plan to a soft cap and then cancelling me all together, I've been looking for my next mobile internet solution. I was thinking the iphone might just do it. On the 32

Re: mac support/warranty, does it matter where you buy?

2009-07-18 Thread matthew T dyer
Hi, I was told by an apple tech that I only had 90 days to get the apple care plan. I am not sure if that is the case or not, but that is only what I was told when I called to try to resaulve a mail problem. Matthew On Jul 17, 2009, at 7:51 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, According to a

contacts tab of iphone

2009-07-18 Thread william lomas
hi all a friend of mine has the new iphone 3gs he wants to get to the contacts tab of the mail, calendars and contacts page ins ettings, how do we move please, from page to page --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: Problem with arcive utility

2009-07-18 Thread matthew T dyer
Hi, Will give this a shot and see what happehns. It only happens with bookshare books. I have not had any problems with anything else. Matthew On Jul 18, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Dan wrote: Hello, Are you talking about The Unarchiver? If so, This is how I have mine set. Command Comma to

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread John Panarese
I am totally blind and have no trouble using my iPhone. Take Care John D. Panarese Managing Director Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc. 9 Nolan Court Hauppauge, NY 11788 Tel/Fax, (631) 724-4479 Email, t...@optonline.net Internet, http://www.tvi-web.com AUTHORIZED DISTRIBUTORS

Still no luck with unziping bookshare files

2009-07-18 Thread matthew T dyer
Hi all. I went into the prefrences and made a changes as whare to the files and still no luck will keep playing around with it but if there are any ideas on how to get around this thanks. I know that in windows if unziping something and it is password protected it would ask you for the

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Victor Tsaran
Honest opinion? You can definitely use IPhone because everything you touch is spoken to you. So there is really no inherent reason why a totally blind person cannot use it. Whether it's efficient is a different question. I think this will depend on how good your spatial imagination is and how

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Victor Tsaran
I actually find that using IPhone's keyboard is easier for a blind person than for sighted guys. The reason is that sighted people have to look at the keys and, with their fingers covering every key they have to hit, it becomes a bit of an annoyance. Since we are used to the layout of the

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Victor Tsaran
Max, Keep in mind that Apple/ATT gang lock you into a monthly data plan. But this is OK since you are not buying IPhone just to call your grandma; for that there are other phones on the market. The only bummer, and correct me if I am wrong, is that you cannot swap sim cards if you are

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Patrick, On Jul 18, 2009, at 2:36 PM, patrickneazer wrote: I have a question. Does Navigon cover all of Europe and is there noise about when it is heading towards North America? It covers most of Europe apart from Russia and Ukraine, and it's supposed to be heading for North

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread patrickneazer
Hello Anne: Thank you for your response. Another question if I may ... do you happen to know how many languages navagon takes advantage of and in your opinion how well do the languages function. Thank you again. On Jul 18, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Patrick, On Jul

newsreader

2009-07-18 Thread william lomas
hi is unison the only accessible newsreader available for the mac? or is there one i can buy with paypal? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread kaare dehard
Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is so very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's probably tough to get fixed on it right away. it's probably a let's forget about the old wisdom or at least set it aside while looking in to this and start from

Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS

2009-07-18 Thread James Nash
Hi everyone, How do the blind users on this list find typing on the IPhone when they can't see the screen? How is it achieved? Also, how are IPhone users finding the GPS? Is it accurate? Is it usable? Thank you for any info. Take care James

Re: newsreader

2009-07-18 Thread James Nash
Have you tried Vienna? It's on www.opensourcemac.org - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by the blind disc...@macvisionaries.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 7:43 PM Subject:

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread James Nash
That has been very informative. But I think the reason behind why Noia ahs not yet done anything like Apple is tht Apple caught them off guard when they released IPhone. Since then Nokia have been playing catch-up. - Original Message - From: Victor Tsaran vtsa...@gmail.com To:

Re: Typing on the IPhone and using its GPS

2009-07-18 Thread Scott Chesworth
Might be worth you taking a read of the thread entitled iPhone accessibility James. There's been 19 messages in the last day or so all around these same questions. There's also been more than a few podcasts and demos and suchlike, might be worth having a quick poke in the list archives for

Re: pages 9, tables and Voiceover

2009-07-18 Thread Barry Hadder
I've had very little look working with tables in pages. If i insert a table into the layout area, I can see and edit it. If i insert it into the body, I have had no luck in working with it in any way. On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: Dear Listers, Has anyone

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Peggy Fleischer
Hi: I'm totally blind and use the Iphone 3gs. I use the mail, the phone, the notes and the voice recorder. I love the Ipod and reading books from audible and playing games when sitting around for a few minutes. I find it easier to use twitter and facebook with my phone than with my

Re: newsreader

2009-07-18 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi, I can't imagine wanting anything but unison for binaries. For text groups it's a different matter but I tried several solutions on windows, and none of them gave me the insane rush that unison on the mac did. It's a file junkie's best friend. Best, erik burggraaf A+ sertified

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Patrick, On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:44 PM, patrickneazer wrote: Another question if I may ... do you happen to know how many languages navagon takes advantage of and in your opinion how well do the languages function. Navigon is available in the languages of the iPhone and also,

Re: pages 9, tables and Voiceover

2009-07-18 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, The talbes in the layout area is where they belong. The layout area is the whole document, the Body is just ment for text. Thanks for giving me this lead. Regards, Alex, On 18-Jul-09, at 1:18 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: I've had very little look working with tables in pages. If i

Re: mac support/warranty, does it matter where you buy?

2009-07-18 Thread Alex Jurgensen
HI, That is for phone support only. Ninety days of phone support are free and then you do need AppleCare, but that can come any time in the first 11 months. Regards, Alex, On 18-Jul-09, at 9:37 AM, matthew T dyer wrote: Hi, I was told by an apple tech that I only had 90 days to get the

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, It is optional with a numpad, but it enhances it. Regards, Alex, On 18-Jul-09, at 5:02 AM, a radix wrote: Hi, Do you actually need the numeric keypad to use voicover? I thought it was optional. If it is optional then there is not much difference imo between using it on a laptop or

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, The older ones had them built in. But from what apple wrote on their site, plublically, they have made advances with the Trackpad and VO. REgards, Alex, On 18-Jul-09, at 5:34 AM, a radix wrote: Hey Erik, So there are no macbooks with numpad? Cant you buy an external one? I myself

Re: pages 9, tables and Voiceover

2009-07-18 Thread Barry Hadder
Hi, When I create a document in word with a table and open it in Pages, the table is embedded in the document. When I create a document in Pages with a table in the lay-out area, I can't find it when I export to and open in Word. So something is different. It seems to me that

RE: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
Thanks again, I'm getting a good feeling about this device, I wish I could use one for a week before actually purchasing it -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Saturday, 18 July 2009 11:59

Re: pages 9, tables and Voiceover

2009-07-18 Thread Barry Hadder
I should also point out that in many of the document templates, I hear hi-lighted as I move the insertion point over the document body. That tells me that there are things embedded. Of course I have no idea what they are as high-lited doesn't tell me a heck of allot. On Jul 18, 2009, at

RE: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
But will it allow you to do everything. Sms mms, email, documents surfing the webb. And the other features that the device has. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickneazer Sent: Saturday, 18 July 2009 11:58 p.m. To:

Re: jumping on the itunes store

2009-07-18 Thread Scott Howell
I don't know the cause other than perhaps a bunch of stuff is updating on the screen. It has nothing to do with the amount of ram etc. I've seen this on a machine with 2Gb and 4Gb. It's annoying, but isn't so bad that one can't put up with it for now, but something that needs to be

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread patrickneazer
Hello Anne and all: Thank you so much for your responses. You have done it again (smile). Take good care. On Jul 18, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Patrick, On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:44 PM, patrickneazer wrote: Another question if I may ... do you happen to know how many

medical transcription on the Mac?

2009-07-18 Thread Mark Baxter
Is anyone out there doing medical transcription on the Mac? I have a USB foot pedal, but wonder about word predictors and medical dictionaries and the like. With the Mac's better sound card, I might try transcription again... Curiously, Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter:

Re: newsreader

2009-07-18 Thread Scott Howell
Eric I agree, but I sure wish they'd get html support in there. I've bugged them about this, but guess I need to get back to bugging again. I'm forced to use outlook express for one specific situation that html support in Unison would take care of. On Jul 18, 2009, at 4:52 PM, erik

Re: selling trekker

2009-07-18 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, For free or how much? Regards, Alex, On 18-Jul-09, at 6:59 PM, Amber Boggs wrote: i HAVE ONE AVAILABLE AS WELL IF ANYONE WANTS IT. Amber Boggs - Original Message - From: May and Wynter To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:36 PM Subject: Re:

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Josh de Lioncourt
I'm also a totally blind iPhone user. It works great, and is far more accessible and efficient than MobileSpeak with Windows Mobile, which I used previously. I recommend joining the VIPhone list at the below link if you want a really good idea of how access is for the totally blind. There

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, I probalbly will in Snow Leopard given what Apple has made public about it. Regards, Alex, On 18-Jul-09, at 5:05 PM, peter Apgar wrote: Does the I phone's two finger flick read all command work on the new mbps? Thanks in advance. Pete -Original Message- From:

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Josh de Lioncourt
Typing takes some getting used to on the iPHone, but it works very well once you get comfortable with it. I'm texting, Twittering, emailing, and all the rest just fine. My most used apps, as far as those which come with the phone, are, in no particular order: Text Messaging Calendar Email

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Cara Quinn
Actually the link is: http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone lol not as intuitive as Josh's. Hth Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Josh de Lioncourt overl...@lioncourt.com wrote: And go me! I forgot to include the link to the VIPhone list. Brilliant, I am. Here it is.

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Esther
Hi Anouk, You don't need to use a numeric keypad with VoiceOver, but with Leopard you have another option of customizing your frequently used VoiceOver commands with the NumPad Commander. I did get a USB keypad, the Lenovo 33L3225 Numeric Keypad, so I could learn the NumPad Commander

Re: IPhone accessibility

2009-07-18 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Hello; How dificult was it to set up the first time you used it? Were you able to transfer your existing address book folders and such? Glad to hear you like it. Take care, Max On Jul 18, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: Typing takes some getting used to on the iPHone, but it

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread May and Wynter
Thanks very much. I keep this plus other messages regarding this for future reference. May, I'm ready for the stress to end. Off to Edmonton on the 25th. - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:12 PM

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread May and Wynter
Ok, I will keep this as well. I'm sure I'll need lots of help once I get my mac since I've always been a windows user. Looking forward to the change though. I want windows on the machine just until I completely get use to mac and not so afraid I'll blow something up, lol. Also, one site I

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Esther
Aargh! Yes, Mike is correct. The program you want in Spark to remap your keys. I've been answering too many different list questions lately. I mentioned Sharp Keys to answer a different question about how to bind a command to announce the time to a hot key. Too many different threads