g
here, either.
I'm sure it's very exciting for OEMs like VMware to now have the
option of using Qt rather than GTK in their closed-source UIs. Perhaps
it's also now an option for Wayfinder. But these people had money, and
the option of a commercial licence anyway.
Am I missing someth
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Bruce Stephens
wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
>> Am I missing something big? Please say I am :-)
>
> You're only missing that sometimes even for proprietary software, "no cost"
> vs "rea
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> ssh you way through your tablet's file system, please drop me a note.
Definitely.
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Hi,
The Diablo auto-builder is broken. No updates to the build logs since
2009-01-23T21:45:
https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/?C=M;O=D
Anyone from the maemo.org team looking into it?
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It's still in development, and isn't ready for end-users yet, but
already allows you to play with some of the new kinetic scrolling
Hildon widgets and have fun building up a new Ubuntu & Maemo-inspired
platform.
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> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>>
>> An example of this is Mer:
>
> Are those "open-source elements of Nokia's Maemo platform" already
> coming from maemo 5?
Yes. As I said
ploading_to_Extras
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omepage and some
download space.
However, non-free software isn't going to use the VCS and there are
other solutions for proprietary apps to have homepages and some
download space.
What's the benefit to those projects, and to maemo.org, of providing
these services to non-free projects?
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in future - maemo.nokia.com.
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27;ll also need to be some testing to see what happens in the App
Mgr's package view when there are two versions available to install,
and the lower priority version is higher. It might make assumptions
which override apt.
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ming this year (RX-51, Maemo 5, ...).
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don't already read it, I suggest you do. I'd even encourage you to
subscribe for a high-quality weekly online Linux magazine.
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[1] http://wiki.maemo.org/
ould
> I come up with some other string?
The Maemo Packaging Policy describes doing exactly as you describe, so
would seem to be a justified use of the "maemo" string:
https://maemo.org/forrest-images/pdf/maemo-policy.pdf
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In particular, I don't think we should use this power (if able to us)
to bulk-update everyone to Mer in about 6 months' time ;-)
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[2] http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Package_categories#Translation
(assistance always welcome, of course - especially with the
osso-software-version-rx*). If we move quickly, we can work within the
timescales Ryan's suggesting for the transition to the new package
categories:
http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2009-April/054566.html
ing
"maemo-community-updates" - all it'll do, from the sound of it, is
increase the trust level of "maemo-extras" (I wouldn't even make it
certified, if that could be avoided).
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On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 22:51, David Greaves wrote:
> Andrew Flegg wrote:
>>
>> I don't know the answer to your question, but the "right" answer
>> [...]
>
> Disagree.
I quoted "right" because I /believe/ that's the answer the platform
a
http://aws.amazon.com/s3/
* I've got lots of webspace and bandwidth.
* maddler's got maemopeople.org - that may be suitable if he's
asked nicely.
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regards to my original RFC, but thought it worth rehighlighting to get
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than end-user experience.
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[1] DHCP struggling at JavaOne (again) so can't check
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the first place for further discussion and analysis.
It could be that the design of the solution is perfect, and the
implementation has few bugs. But I'd prefer to have known that before
people started noticing oddities in Fremantle.
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s a compositing window manager. On a
desktop this means you never receive an "expose" event
since your window is always exposed on an off-screen
buffer. What is the best way of implementing (2) in
Maemo 5?
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ggestions in this thread so far, over the
weekend, in Python on Diablo device & Fremantle SDK.
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mantle SDK, I can't test there :-(
> The same window-state-event signal should still be relevant on Maemo 5.
Have you got any sample code which uses window-state-event I could use
as a basis for comparison?
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, the value of that
property doesn't seem reliable enough (or, rather, the focus-out fires
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On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:26, Thomas Perl wrote:
> 2009/7/10 Andrew Flegg :
>> Have you got any sample code which uses window-state-event I could use
>> as a basis for comparison?
>
> See the function window_state_event at:
>
> http://repo.or.cz/w/gpodder.git?a=
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:09, Andrew Flegg wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 08:28, Faheem Pervez wrote:
>
>> FocusOut event, serial 20, synthetic NO, window 0x161,
>> mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyNonlinear
>
> I had a thought about using focus-in/out and checki
his is now "org.maemo." - is this a
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On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 08:32, Jeremiah
Foster wrote:
>
> There appears to have been a successful build a couple hours later.
> Are things fixed or is there still trouble?
Seems to be better now (as does #3354, I doubt there's a connection though)
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a font change too, but I could swear my beta2 install has *smaller*
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does show when *I've* uploaded something, so either way,
it shouldn't be hard to make a UI which shows the complete build
queues of everything.
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uot; arrow
at the top-right of the screen.
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2009/7/21 Claudio Saavedra :
> El mar, 21-07-2009 a las 08:53 +0100, Andrew Flegg escribió:
>>
>> How does Modest put that "Move" button there? Next to the "Back" arrow
>> at the top-right of the screen.
>
> I said it three times already. Fullscreen
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:18, Alberto Garcia wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:00:54AM +0100, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
>> Yes, I understand that. But a developer, on seeing a screencast,
>> thought it part of the normal WM chrome. Indeed, if you look at the
>> screenshot[1]
hacky, though. But if
there's no better way which the Hildon developers/Nokia recommend,
that's fine by me.
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2009/7/24 Kimmo Hämäläinen :
> On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 10:54 +0200, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
>> My basic code structure is:
>>
>> * while timer fires:
>> - check is-topmost
>> - if false, cancel timer and return
>
> Probably Py
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:57, Anderson
Lizardo wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
>> Yup, indeed. (PyMaemo doesn't expose the method, but you can get the
>> property).
>
> Hmm, here I can see this method just fine (Scratchbox X86 target)
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 13:17, Anderson
Lizardo wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
> It is at this same page, but on the top ("Python Hildon Manual"). I'll
> fix the link to the python-hildon documentation to point th
. If you are thinking of
applying for sponsorship to the summit, you may wish to put your
thoughts on who and how it is decided gets the cash:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=306984#post306972
Thanks in advance,
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On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 08:29, daniel wilms wrote:
>
> the internet search-applet is dropped in Fremantle and there is no
> replacement for it.
Of course, presumably there's nothing stopping anyone writing a home
plugin which provides similar functioanality?
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g done by someone else (not that I, rightfully,
> have a choice).
The underlying question still being one of: is Fremantle Extras-Devel
going to be seeded with packages from Diablo; or were Jeremiah's
activities limited to "just" some key libraries?
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sIfAppropriate(window) {
if (isPortrait())
window.set(HILDON_PORTRAIT_SUPPORT | HILDON_PORTRAIT_REQUEST)
else
window.unset(HILDON_PORTRAIT_SUPPORT | HILDON_PORTRAIT_REQUEST)
}
----8<----
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Build-Depends should
be enough to say something like "if there is a dependency on something
else on the queue, build it first".
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On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 16:00, Ed Bartosh wrote:
> 2009/8/26 Andrew Flegg :
>>
>> Bypass dput and use scp directly?debian/control's Build-Depends should
>> be enough to say something like "if there is a dependency on something
>> else on the queue, build it
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 16:17, Ed Bartosh wrote:
>
> Build-Depends is OK. scp is hackish.
Why is scp hackish? I use it in preference to dput all the time. What
value does dput give for the extras autobuilder?
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On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 16:25, Ed Bartosh wrote:
> 2009/8/26 Andrew Flegg :
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 16:17, Ed Bartosh wrote:
>>>
>>> Build-Depends is OK. scp is hackish.
>>
>> Why is scp hackish? I use it in preference to dput all the time. What
refused":
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3354
Does it work if you upload via the web assistant?
https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant/index.php
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On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 16:47, Fred wrote:
> Andrew Flegg a écrit :
>>
>> https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3354
>
> I keep getting this error :
>
> $ dput -f diablo-extras-builder pwsafe_1.5.0e_source.changes
>
> Uploading to diablo-extras-builder (via sc
with a
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r cross-platform
development, and Maemo *was* mentioned in the introduction (although
I've not seen any evidence of this being anything but aspirational at
the moment).
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roles are reversed: Qt is Nokia-supported; whilst
Gtk+ is community-supported.
There should be enough disk space on the upcoming devices to have both
runtimes side-by-side, and you can even use Qt on Maemo 4:
http://qt4.garage.maemo.org/
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will test your screen scraping processes (he says, doing *lots* of
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(multimedia, contacts, location etc.). What if I just want to write a
simple calculator app?
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ost a
simple example (and screenshot) of a Qt program which looks like a
"normal" Maemo 5 app?
What's the Qt AppMenu API? Does Qt do more work on behalf of the user
(for good or ill) in terms of rotation support? etc. etc.
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B /opt so if someone does, they can repartition
as you say. 1GB sounds about the right point for now. Is there already
a gparted port to Maemo; if not - should be straightforward given it's
ext2 rather than ubifs/jffs2.
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I'd strongly recommend the main enhancement, however.
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On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 16:22, Attila Csipa wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 September 2009 17:09:17 Andrew Flegg wrote:
>> Of course, if maemo-optify were really clever, it'd also handle
>> patterns like the above and produce "/opt/bob/share/foo", but I'd
>> con
at*, that could be something we have a QA check for?
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[I haven't got Matan's original]
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 23:41, David Greaves wrote:
> Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>>> * Use of /opt is perhaps now a QA requirement for Extras
>>> * Can we somehow add a /opt check into mi
platforms (and even
Maemo) is a hack, so I'd prefer developers used the autoconf approach
of --datadir or similar, with only a few things (startup script,
icons, service files, desktop files) being either directly installed
to /usr (or symlinked to /opt).
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sage of a symlink? ;-)
> Of course, we should add some way to control the heuristic of
> maemo-optify, but I think it is important that it does something
> reasonably by default.
Absolutely (hence my keenness on it being more FHS compliant by using
the
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:52, Graham Cobb wrote:
> On Thursday 10 September 2009 07:53:37 Andrew Flegg wrote:
>> The use of /opt/_package_/ on Diablo, Fremantle, Mer, Ubuntu is
>> entirely concordant with the FHS:
>
> Well, not really. That FHS section is clear that
at may be). (Maybe)
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worked to date, but then OS2005
packages ended up in /var/lib/install before OS2006 came along.
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On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 13:38, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> ext Andrew Flegg writes:
>>
>> That changes things, if /opt is going away (in a Maemo Update?) [...]
>
> Careful. :-) The /opt directory itself is of course not becoming illegal
> in some way, and your optified packag
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 16:12, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> ext Andrew Flegg writes:
>>
>> Instead of using a fixed prefix of /opt/maemo/, use
>> /opt//.
>
[big snip]
I'm not going to get into a point-by-point rebuttal of these. But
installing stuff in /opt on Maemo
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 16:20, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> ext Andrew Flegg writes:
>
>> Although a unionfs solution would be a bit more further dev on Nokia's
>> part, it will reduce the developer complexity and gives us a real
>> world solution now. [...]
>
> Ye
rticle in question *is* five years old, and I believe the
preferred union FS solution wouldn't be UnionFS, it'd possibly be aufs
or one of the others explored by Valerie.
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FHS needs to be registered with
LANANA, not individual packages (and so only if you use
/opt//).
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or system settings
> -- "bookmarks" for bookmark
> -- "applications" for 3rd apps list
Sorry, to clairfy the language - if "documents" doesn't work, it's not
"deprecated" it's "unsupported". The former means it will continue to
work
y which already existed from a previous
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avoid it, but now my test package
won't build in the diablo autobuilder :-(
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to what they should be doing?
Is it just a case of the "Quality criteria" being more clearly
communicated? Perhaps the bullet list of points should be embedded in
the /packages/ UI?
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the package interface? Or maybe the reason is
> another one?
The definitive list is:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Package_categories#New_list_for_Diablo
There's a bug about this ambiguity here:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5055
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t this point sounds the most sensible, possibly
using the same names and stuff for easier inclusion at a later date.
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-extra (or whatever).
Cheers,
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PS. Posting rate not diminished now I'm not on the council ;-)
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a to ship that update* (assuming that it is
shipped at all) will be very effective at all. Unless I'm missing
something and Nokia aren't just willing to ship a libhildon update,
but you're willing to ship one when "we" (i.e. the widget developers
and libhi
us-send
--system --type=method_call --dest="com.nokia.osso_browser"
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com.nokia.osso_browser.load_url string:"%s"' --type string
>8
> For "mailto:noth...@icandy.de"; you get an error that the p
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 23:37, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
> Anyone updated to the latest Ubuntu 9.10 beta can tell me if she had
> any issue with the Maemo 5 SDK beta?
Initial impressions seem OK to me. I've not updated to the final SDK
release yet.
HTH,
Andrew
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> Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
> > how did you upload your .changes to extras assistant?
>
> I use scp.
pkg/info/bounce.list.
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's it (a handy file to move when trying to recover from a full
rootfs during package installation).
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Andrew
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ompiled with USE_CURL_MULTI". Compiling from source with
CFLAGS=-DUSE_CURL_MULTI and a whole lot of libcurl3-dev etc isn't
helping.
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le.org/index.php/jaffa/2008/03/09/improving_application_start_up_mockup
Presumably there's something in the .desktop? I've certainly noticed
that a window for my apps is opened with the title from the icon with
black content. If the app fails to start, that window is then
destroyed.
Cheers,
An
th that screenshot before
fading in the actual window.
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lcome.
Cheers,
Andrew
PS. I said we'd have problems with Python. Probably Perl and Ruby too, if they
were more prevalent on the platform.
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e same time, the user
*perceives* it to be faster if there are multiple steps.
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k screen for 2
> seconds or even less.
Not me, I've seen enough usability labs that I appreciated it as a
nice hack to avoid some of the inevitable delays :-)
It's still a hack, of course, and things should still start as quickly
as possible.
Cheers,
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