Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-07 Thread Mike Klein
Toshiba was able to cram multiple forms of cellular into their toughbook series...all mini-pci I think. There was a new ultra-rugged military-grade umpc recently announced (hi-vol sales only...$5K!!!) that had multiple forms of radios. What happened to those software-programmable radios man? So

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 01:05 -0500, Mike Lococo wrote: The SINGLE worst problem with the 770/800 is NO BT headsets. It's a long standing complaint. I've come to believe it's a conscious decision. No argument here - It seems like the exclusion was conscious, but I can't figure out why.

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread Brian Waite
I do not intend this as a flame, but you chose the wrong device. You want a laptop/tablet PC and you'll have to pay for it in both size and cost. Just putting together a package like the N800.770 is is a feat. Look at UMPCs and see what you can find, but I'd challenge you to find one that will

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 21:36 -0500, ext Jonathan Greene wrote: ... It would also be nice if we could get (think it's called) OBEX support built in so you could bluetooth beam files back and forth between phones and computers. The file manager does a nice job letting you browse a bluetooth

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread Mike Klein
Zoran Kolic wrote: Correction...single worst problem is that N800 doesn't perhaps have enough cpu to stream videos cleanly. This issue can't be fixed perhaps by a better driver. Re-encoding stuff sucks. More cpu, more power consumption. Buy desktop. Actually no...buy a Pepper Pad

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread Mike Klein
Brian Waite wrote: I do not intend this as a flame, but you chose the wrong device. You want a laptop/tablet PC and you'll have to pay for it in both size and cost. Just putting together a package like the N800.770 is is a feat. Look at UMPCs and see what you can find, but I'd challenge you

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread Jonathan Matthews-Levine
On 2/6/07, Mike Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tobacco...buy it at your corner store. Next year when Nokia releases next model w/3G we can discuss further. Over my dead 770 ... :-) Dude...you just don't understand. There are two models which are equally valid...each device to it's own and

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread DJ Delorie
Mike Lococo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's being actively worked on. Not that we can tell. Hey Nokia, we want to help! Really! The reason for the delay is, I believe, the work required to get things running in the bluetooth driver within in the linux kernel. If they had published the key

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread Mike Klein
Depending upon device and it's features/quality...I could go either dedicated device route or convergence all-in-one route. Knock with all-in-one devices (like stereos) is you often get crap you don't want and solution is watered downvalid points. I thought at one time that my eensy-teensy

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread Levi Bard
I agree, though - there /are/ two models. I think that Nokia's addressing the convergence-luvvas quite nicely with their (much much much more numerous) smart phone offerings. The N800, however, is a deliberate step to the other end of the spectrum - single device, single purpose (where

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Wiktowy
On 2/6/07, Zoran Kolic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 05 February 2007 22:28, Mike Klein wrote: 3rd worst problem is no 3G/cellular capability built-in. Also my wash machine lacks it. I cannot sleep for that reason. Sarcasm aside, Zoran has a very good point. Putting cellular capability

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread Paul Klapperich
On 2/6/07, Michael Wiktowy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't have bought a 770 or a N800 if it had a GSM/3G/Super-duper next-gen phone built in. Me neither - I already have a bare-bones cell phone that makes calls just fine ... most people have ... - It would tie it to some specific

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread Acadia Secure Networks
Michael, in the U.S. all three of Cingular (HSDPA), Verizon (EVDO), and Sprint (EVDO) have deployed broadband mobile wireless services with a national footprint that, if Sprint's vision is correct will become, in Sprint's case, a stepping stone to full WIMAX deployment a few years down the

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread Michael Wiktowy
On 2/6/07, Paul Klapperich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just looking for a small, barebones phone that has bluetooth. I really think this is the way to go. I would love to find something even simpler; a barebones little box that acts like a GSM modem with a BT interface ... I don't even care

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread Mike Klein
Michael Wiktowy wrote: On 2/6/07, Zoran Kolic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 05 February 2007 22:28, Mike Klein wrote: 3rd worst problem is no 3G/cellular capability built-in. Also my wash machine lacks it. I cannot sleep for that reason. Sarcasm aside, Zoran has a very good point.

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread Mike Klein
I have been holding off on 3G data plan due to horrific costs and questions about availability/robustness. Cingular's plan is like $80/mo for all you can eat. Given there are comments regarding voice calls dropping when data is incoming and vice versa...I'll be a late adopter thanks. In S.F.

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 15:28:34 Mike Klein wrote: I have been holding off on 3G data plan due to horrific costs and questions about availability/robustness. Cingular's plan is like $80/mo for all you can eat. Given there are comments regarding voice calls dropping when data is incoming

[maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-06 Thread Neil MacLeod
Mike Klein wrote: I'm in the no built-in cellular camp - for me, this was a smart move as I can use the N800 with whatever phone I have now (GSM/GPRS) and with whatever phone I get with my next upgrade (almost certainly a GSM/HSDPA phone). Nokia probably took a look at the data plans

[maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-05 Thread sean
Acadia Secure Networks wrote: All, I am interested in using a Gennum 5500 nxzen bluetooth headset with the N800 and a VOIP client. Does anyone here have any info (e.g. perhaps a compatibility list from Nokia itself) that indicates what headsets have been confirmed to work with the N800?

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-05 Thread Jonathan Greene
On 2/5/07, sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Acadia Secure Networks wrote: All, I am interested in using a Gennum 5500 nxzen bluetooth headset with the N800 and a VOIP client. Does anyone here have any info (e.g. perhaps a compatibility list from Nokia itself) that indicates what headsets

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-05 Thread Mike Klein
The SINGLE worst problem with the 770/800 is NO BT headsets. It's a long standing complaint. I've come to believe it's a conscious decision. With BT headsets, these would be THE internet devices. sean Correction...single worst problem is that N800 doesn't perhaps have enough cpu to

Re: [maemo-users] Re: N800 and Bluetooth Headsets

2007-02-05 Thread Mike Lococo
The SINGLE worst problem with the 770/800 is NO BT headsets. It's a long standing complaint. I've come to believe it's a conscious decision. No argument here - It seems like the exclusion was conscious, but I can't figure out why. It's being actively worked on. The reason for the delay is, I