Re: [MlMt] PSA: Mobile app that's compatible with many MailMate features.

Hi, On 15 November 2018, at 0825, Stephen Chong wrote: It's a freemium model. You can use the app without paying anything. The free version works well. The premium version is more a way to support the developer and help keep the app up to date. See https://preside.io/PremiumFAQ.html.

[MlMt] PSA: Mobile app that's compatible with many MailMate features.

Hi all, My apologies for those who already know this, but, last night I stumbled across an iOS app that matches many of MailMate's features, but, obviously, works mobile. MailMate is absolutely the only email client for me at my desktop, but, there are things I sometimes must do on my

Re: [MlMt] moving tags to new laptop

Hi Eric, Hi, I’m the happy recipient of a shiny new laptop and am configuring MailMate for it. Unhappily, I’m finding none of the many tags I’ve set on messages on my old laptop are visible on the new one. I guess that means none of my IMAP servers support saving tags. Is there a way I

Re: [MlMt] Copying a message

Hi, Since MailMate doesn't have a way to export email to a standard format Umm... I don't believe that to be true. Sorry - I was mixing up my directionality. I know about, and use, all of the methods you mention -- but the Keyboard Maestro macros are still something I've been making

Re: [MlMt] Copying a message

Hi Michael, I sometimes want to copy a message and paste it into another application (usually OmniOutliner, sometimes a plain-text document) -- basically something similar to what you might expect if you typed command-c when a message is selected in the message list and content was copied

Re: [MlMt] Tag completion upper/lower case confusion

Hi Benny, On 29 August 2018, at 2341, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 24 Aug 2018, at 18:37, Eric Sharakan wrote: Unfortunately, I just encountered issue #1 again, exactly as originally described: Ok, let me know if you find a series of steps which reproduces this. Maybe with the next test

[MlMt] Forwarding as attachment corrupts attachments (in some cases).

Hi, I've been banging my head against the proverbial wall on this one and was wondering if it's Just Me or not. Over the last few weeks I've noticed that if I receive an email which contains attachments, and then attempt to forward that same email *as* an attachment (Message -> Forward as

[MlMt] Changing the quoted line character.

Hi, I was certain this was discussed in the past, but, I couldn't find it in the mail archives anywhere, nor the hidden preferences. One of the (infinite) infuriating things about Outlook seems to be that when it receives email where quoted lines in replies are prefaced with ">" it will

Re: [MlMt] command-return to send

Hi, On 7 March 2018, at 1627, Randy Bush wrote: i have "Special" in Prefs/General/CustomKeyBindings, which is enabled % cat ~/Library/Application\ Support/MailMate/Resources/KeyBindings/Special.plist "@\U000D" = "send:"; Not sure if this helps, but, for the last few years my

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

Hi, On 17 May 2017, at 0531, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I will note that I turned on 2FA long ago, and I've had zero trouble with MailMate and its app-specific password. You set it up once; after that, it just works. Echoing Steve here. I use several platforms which make use of per-app

[MlMt] Trash or Deleted Messages?

Hi, This is one that has been bugging me for a while and I keep pushing it to the back burner, only to have it flare up at inconvenient times.. I use: o OS X o iOS o Fastmail I am pretty sure there are others on this list who do the same. What is the "right" way to configure MailMate

Re: [MlMt] Really weird bug--mail sent from wrong account

Hi Kee, On 22 September 2016, at 0728, Kee Hinckley wrote: I sent the following message: ``` From: "Kee Hinckley" To: metadatasupp...@tivo.com Subject: The 16x9 Series Image for "Difficult People" does not include the title text Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:37:26 -0700

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

Hi, On 2 September 2016, at 1646, Richard Rettke wrote: On 30 Aug 2016, at 21:02, Kee Hinckley k...@hinckley.com wrote: I've had MailMate ask for my password in four of my Google Apps accounts (three of them two-factor) a total of at least 8 times today. Has anyone else had any issues?

[MlMt] Editing learned recipients.

Hi, Whilst doing some testing I sent a number of messages to a temporary address which has since been learned by MailMate as a known-recipient -- thus, whenever I start typing the first few letters of that address, the autocomplete pops up with that as a suggestion. How can I erase that

Re: [MlMt] NUL character warnings (v5246)

Hi, Yes, I got it at least twice in the last few days. Also with FastMail. It happened when I would try to send a message. Quitting and relaunching MailMate fixed it and allowed the message to be sent (I think I had FastMail open in the browser in the background and could see that the

[MlMt] NUL character warnings (v5246)

Hi, For the last few days I've been getting a LOT of these: Server response: “I71 NO Message contains NUL characters”. Command attempted: “I71 APPEND "INBOX.Sent Items" (\Seen) "20-May-2016 08:01:30 +1000" {696+}”. The IMAP server is FastMail, but the problem only started happening after a

Re: [MlMt] From vs. Sender

Hi, It's not clear to me that MailMate misbehaves though. This is also supported by the comment in the headers you provided: Comments: Did not say From: u...@company.com at sender's request This appears to mean that the sender did this intentionally. I'm not sure that is as

Re: [MlMt] From vs. Sender

Hi, On 10 March 2016, at 0305, Kee Hinckley wrote: I got a very confusing mail message today. I get this happening all the time with MailMate, but, it's not related to Exchange invitations. Indeed, I've no idea what is causing it, but the relevant headers are: From:

Re: [MlMt] THANKS!

It doesn't display the folder names under Virtual Mailboxes for me when the virtual mailbox is for Unread messages. This is due to something changing in how the Submailboxes of Smart Mailboxes are displayed. Until 5520, I had a Submailbox based on "Source" and the format was:

Re: [MlMt] THANKS!

Hi, It is about time I thank Benny *again* for the excellent support and cooperation. As some of you know, I started a discussion on this list regarding startup times being long. After testin, debugging, dumping, debugging and logging some more Benny now have a release of the code that do

Re: [MlMt] Quick-search feature request.

Hi Thomas, On 28 January 2016, at 0921, Thomas Grundberg wrote: 2016-01-27 kl 22:13 skrev Scott A. McIntyre: Whilst I can do this by using the search box and just the email address, I was hoping to do it by simply clicking on an email address in an already open message. Maybe

[MlMt] Quick-search feature request.

Hi, One of the things I often need to do is determine if I've ever received, or sent, email to a particular address. Whilst I can do this by using the search box and just the email address, I was hoping to do it by simply clicking on an email address in an already open message. Right now,

Re: [MlMt] r5175 launch time.

Hi, But it's quite alright if you don't have time for that :-) I believe I found an issue which would explain the slower launch times in recent test releases. Please try again with r5179 and let me know. Yep, something you did definitely improved things. r5180 took only 8 seconds to

[MlMt] r5175 launch time.

Hi, I managed to not update a few alpha releases in a row, but, between the last beta and r5175 "something happened" and launching MailMate now takes well over a minute before the main window appears. Not sure what is causing it, but, from the time the icon starts bouncing until the window

Re: [MlMt] Escaping from a search returns to the last message in a folder.

Hi, If I search for something, either using the search box in the corner, or, clicking on something like a subject or a sender in a currently displayed mail - then when I then type "escape" to exit out of the search-view, I'm returned to the very first message of my inbox. I think this

[MlMt] Escaping from a search returns to the last message in a folder.

Hi, At some point in the last week or so, with the bleeding edge development version of MailMate (5143 at current count) developed an odd behaviour. If I search for something, either using the search box in the corner, or, clicking on something like a subject or a sender in a currently

[MlMt] Smart Folder column widths

Hi, Something may have changed in one of the recent betas/developer releases with how MailMate remembers columns in Smart Folders... I'm on r5121 at the moment, if that helps. Under the "Unread" smart folder the width for columns, especially the "Date Received" column, seems to keep being

[MlMt] Trouble connecting to iCloud (certificate validation)

Hi, aluminium_hat For the past few months, every now and again when MailMate tries to talk to Apple's iCloud email infrastructure, a certificate validation error occurs. The certificate that MailMate reports is a wildcard for *.mail.me.com, signed by Symantec (Symantec Class 3 Secure

Re: [MlMt] Silencing the beep when mail is checked

Hi, For what it's worth, MailMate currently doesn't interact directly with the OS X notification system. Instead MailMate relies on the third party Growl framework which uses the OS X notification system when Growl is not installed. But I consider to remove the dependence on Growl since I

Re: [MlMt] Folder preferences reset with recent Dev/Beta (at least 5095)

Hi, Not sure if that was intended behaviour; seems unlikely... No, it was certainly not intended. I've forgotten if something was broken in one of the test versions, but I did make a few changes to the handling of mailbox settings. Let me know if you can reproduce that MailMate loses

[MlMt] Folder preferences reset with recent Dev/Beta (at least 5095)

Hi, Likely if you're using the latest beta or so, you've discovered this, but, all of the Folder View preferences have been lost somewhere in one of the last 5-6 developer/test/beta updates. I was away for a week, updated, and it looks like most folders are sitting with Thread mode enabled,

Re: [MlMt] MailMate Hanging during PGP sig verification

Hi, On 20 May 2015, at 23:30, Allie Martin wrote: On May 20, 2015 03:10:19 am GMT-5, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailingl...@freron.com wrote: I believe the delay is caused by `gpg2` checking an online server to find a public key. This is configurable (I cannot remember the setting, but you can

[MlMt] New compose window glitch.

Hi, For the past maybe 2 or so releases (so, very recently), I've noticed an odd glitch when I command-n to compose a new message. MOST of the time the window appears where I last saved my compose window, and with the same dimensions/size as before. But every now and then it appears

[MlMt] QuickLook HTML documents showing grey panel (r5078)

Hi, I've noticed this for a few types of email attachments, but, at the moment, it seems most repeatable with HTML -- basically, the attachments all list out at the bottom of the mail, but if I click on Quick Look, there's a display of the HTML for only a fraction of a second, before it

Re: [MlMt] I do not have unread count for sub mailboxes anymore

Hi, Scott - thanks for confirming; I hope it will be fixed soon since as you i'm lost without them. Try the latest test release (r5075). I fixed a few issues related to submailboxes and hopefully this included your problem :-) woohoo - I'm no longer lost! thank you! Ditto! Confirmed,

Re: [MlMt] I do not have unread count for sub mailboxes anymore

On 20 Mar 2015, at 2:41, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: Hi, I updated to latest version and I lost my unread count for submailboxes. Even if I right click and choose Displayed Count Include submailboxes nothing shows up. Yep, welcome to the club. This one hit a couple of versions ago,

Re: [MlMt] I do not have unread count for sub mailboxes anymore

Hi, Quite the fascinating folder naming scheme! ;-) Kai PS: Seriously, is there something ready-made that can do this for me? View - Distortion Mode. It's a feature built in to MailMatethat I keep forgetting about till times like this when it's super useful.

Re: [MlMt] r5072 - Unread Smartfolder not displaying message count for sub-folders

Hi, With the latest Alpha, 5072, my Unread smart folder displays a total count of unread messages in all folders, but, when I expand the Unread folder it does not display the message count for each individual folder beneath it. It will display the name of the folder with unread messages,

Re: [MlMt] r5072 - Unread Smartfolder not displaying message count for sub-folders

Hi, new mail arrives and is detected in various folders, the Unread folder can have a dynamically updating list of how many unread messages are present in what folder. Might be a nice option. I'm not sure I follow. Can't you just leave it expanded? Does it collapse by itself? Yes. As

[MlMt] r5072 - Unread Smartfolder not displaying message count for sub-folders

Hi, With the latest Alpha, 5072, my Unread smart folder displays a total count of unread messages in all folders, but, when I expand the Unread folder it does not display the message count for each individual folder beneath it. It will display the name of the folder with unread messages,

[MlMt] Searching by Content-Type.

Hi, What's the best way to search my messages for: Content-Type: text/calendar; charset=utf-8; method=REQUEST Or Content-Type: text/calendar; charset=utf-8; method=CANCEL (or any other method) I'm trying to find all messages which contain meeting invitations. Most seem to appear as

Re: [MlMt] suggestion - search buttons

Hi, Well, I might not have “finished” this feature, but it's certainly in a useful state now. Fetch the latest test release, read the instructions in the release notes, and try it out. Also, I believe I've fixed the worst bugs in the 64 bit version of MailMate. If recent releases have been

Re: [MlMt] suggestion - search buttons

Hi, Well, I might not have “finished” this feature, but it's certainly in a useful state now. Fetch the latest test release, read the instructions in the release notes, and try it out. Couple of bugs: 1) Select a mailbox, enter a word to search for in box, alt-enter. Matches display

Re: [MlMt] suggestion - search buttons

Hi, But anyway, once we get the cool Google like search field where I can type from:foo AND to:bar, then this point will be a moot point... Oh man, I'd pay a reasonable sum of money to have a search interface like this, using the various key-words from the drop downs instead of the

[MlMt] Bug that's tough to replicate: ddoouubbllee..

Hi, Tough bug for me to replicate, but, it's happened three times this morning with v5035. When a message is selected I bring up the Move To panel and start typing the name of a folder. Sometimes, but not always, every letter I press is duplicated for input in MailMate's search box.

Re: [MlMt] Mail archiving best practice

Hi, Any advice on best practice for archiving emails from MailMate? My preference is to archive in DevonThink, which holds my email archives from the mid 2000s. But it seems that MailMate and Devonthink don't hook up, so I'm looking for other robust options that are Spotlight searchable.

Re: [MlMt] Bulk deletion.

Hi, Sometimes nothing happens. Sometimes one of the messages deletes...but I can't think of a time when they all actually seem to delete. This is new to me. Do you think it is a recent problem (64 bit betas)? No, it's been here for months, perhaps as long as I've used MailMate, but I

[MlMt] OnOver URL

Hi, Did something change with a recent MailMate Alpha/Beta such that it no longer displays URLs when the cursor is hovering over a link? Was quite handy for dealing with phishing - not sure if it was MailMate or Yosemite that changed. Cheers, Scott

Re: [MlMt] Cannot connect to iCloud mailbox

Hi, For what it's worth, as of a few minutes ago MailMate seems unable to authenticate to iCloud for email again. Server response: “A0 NO [AUTHENTICATIONFAILED] Authentication failed”. Command attempted: “A0 AUTHENTICATE PLAIN ••”. However, it works fine for Mail.app and iCloud --

Re: [MlMt] Cannot connect to iCloud mailbox

On 8 Oct 2014, at 8:35, Steve Mayer wrote: Scott, You should have received an email from Apple a few weeks back concerning the requirement of using app specific passwords for third party apps accessing iCloud. It appears they turned this on today. I was able to generate an app specific

Re: [MlMt] Latest test release, Yosemite, Exchange IMAP, and more

Hi, Nevertheless, if you do not mind the memory usage and you are prepared to run an **alpha** (unstable) version of MailMate then here is a direct link: http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5000.tbz The revision number is **a hack** and you should not expect automatic

[MlMt] Counters preference not being remembered.

Hi, In Version 1.8 (4447), I've adjusted the counters that are displayed on the dock but the changes are not remembered across restarts of the application. If it matters, one of the counters refers to Unread in a Smart Mailbox; but that may not be a factor. 100% repeatable here on this

[MlMt] Account order.

Hi, I've tried to search the list archives on this (but the search functionality is dead at the moment) -- is there a way to chance the order of accounts in MailMate in the Mailbox panel? I have several IMAP accounts and their associated inboxes nicely displayed, but, I'd like to re-arrange

Re: [MlMt] Account order.

Hi, I've tried to search the list archives on this (but the search functionality is dead at the moment) Use Google with site:lists.freron.com in the search field. This is, by the way, also useful on Apple's mailing lists for the same reason. Yeah, did that, sorry, should have said --

Re: [MlMt] Account order.

Hi, The renaming didn't work here unfortunately, even after a restart. Was hoping there was a plist somewhere that could be edited. ;-) Take a look at ~/Library/Application\ Support/MailMate/Sources.plist I only have one account, but that's where it is... Ah, perfect, thanks for the

Re: [MlMt] Mailmate for POP3? Future prospects from Mailmate?

Hi, On 30 Jul 2014, at 6:17, Kai Großjohann wrote: Fredrik already asked most things, I would like to share how I migrated to MailMate. MailMate does not support storing emails locally. I worked around it as follows: I, for one, would welcome a Maildir based local-storage for an archive

[MlMt] Feature request: 10.10 Dark Mode.

Hi, I realise it's premature, and it may not even be possible, but, I'm starting to see some phenomenal Dark Mode support in applications under Yosemite and it would be great if MailMate could find a way to support that as well. In particular, the betas of Textual 5 (IRC client) with the

[MlMt] PGP/MIME support question.

Hi, I received an email which the GPG engine in MailMate seems to have issues with. It was sent with PGP/MIME as a mulitipart/mixed message. Unfortunately, MailMate shows it as two separate attachments, and doesn't seem to be able to decrypt the message at all. I had to save the .asc file

Re: [MlMt] statistics per weekday / hour ?

Hi, Possibly the huge amount of mail I have is related? No, that shouldn't matter. Does it also happen if you do it in a mailbox with few emails (or none at all)? I'm thinking that maybe the header of some particular email triggers the crash… Alas, you were correct. I removed the plist

Re: [MlMt] statistics per weekday / hour ?

Hi, Then restart MailMate and look for `Date` (without the '*') in the window opened via “Other…” in the headers popup. It should have a Weekday specifier. For what it's worth, trying this on Yosemite with the latest Alpha build immediately crashes MailMate. Crashed Thread:

Re: [MlMt] statistics per weekday / hour ?

Hi, For what it's worth, trying this on Yosemite with the latest Alpha build immediately crashes MailMate. And this happens every time? It doesn't really look like something that should/could behave differently on Yosemite. Could you send me a copy of the `specifiers.plist` file you

[MlMt] Superfluous addresses with Version 1.8 (4307)

...@mail.domain.com And when I got a response, it was replied back to me with a Reply All and the full recipient list was: From: Surname, Firstname firstname.surn...@mail.domain.com To: McIntyre, Scott sc...@mail.domain.com, surn...@my.mta.server.com surn...@my.mta.server.com In this case

Re: [MlMt] Superfluous addresses with Version 1.8 (4307)

On 10 Jun 2014, at 12:37, Scott A. McIntyre wrote: Hi, Just wondering if anyone else has seen this...for one of my accounts, MailMate seems to be adding additional recipients to outgoing mail based upon either a new feature, or, a mis-parsing of the address format itself. With the help

[MlMt] Resetting the database.

Hi, I don't know if it's Yosemite, or the closing the search box opens a new window bug, but, MailMate has crashed, hard, for me today -- for the very first time. Upon restart I was asked how to rebuild, and now it's stuck in a loop of rebuilding from cache, crashing, and restarting. Does

Re: [MlMt] Feature request - highlighting related messages in a thread.

Hi, Isn't that something where the Thread Arcs Layout could be handy? Highlighting messages could be a nice addition, though. Yes, and that's my default view. However, that's different than being able to click on one message and in the pane of all your messages in that folder, quickly

Re: [MlMt] Shifting some key bindings around... possible?

Hi, I would like to assign as follows: Move to mailbox = T Tag messages = ⌘T Go to Mailbox = ⌥⌘T For what it's worth, I simply did all of these re-bindings using OS X's native Keyboard control panel. I specified the keyboard equivalent I wanted for the displayed menu item, and that

Re: [MlMt] I don't expect support soon, but, heads up. (Yosemite)

Hi, That was quick :-) My morning meeting was cancelled, I felt like taking a chance. It's been .. awkward. I'll contact you off list for some details to see if it's an easy fix. Otherwise it'll have to wait until I get around to installing Yosemite myself. Great, got your note,

[MlMt] Feature request - highlighting related messages in a thread.

Hi, One of the things that I really enjoyed about Mail.app was NOT putting things into Conversation view (or thread, if you prefer that term) but, instead, taking advantage of the highlighting of messages which are in the same thread (or related). I don't know how impossible it'd be to add

[MlMt] I don't expect support soon, but, heads up. (Yosemite)

Hi all, Just to let you know -- there are issues with MailMate on OS X 10.10 (Yosemite). Text wrapping in the content of messages seems to be broken, so, many/most messages appear as one long line. Other functionality seems okay though, and I am sending this from MailMate, so, that's a

Re: [MlMt] Specifying an identity per mailbox.

Hi Benny, MailMate should definitely be able to choose the correct From address for a reply. Make sure that MailMate knows your email addresses. [This](http://blog.freron.com/2013/handling-multiple-identities/) is a good starting point and then let me know if you still cannot make it work

[MlMt] Specifying an identity per mailbox.

Hi, There's obviously some intelligence in how MailMate chooses the identity with which to send email from when composing a new message, but I've not quite worked out how to game it to work 100% the way I want - is there a way which I can specify a particular IMAP mailbox always has a certain

Re: [MlMt] Why does Quick Look bring up a blank window for .ics files

On 23 May 2014, at 7:28, Kee Hinckley wrote:  [PastedImage.png] I have the same issue with PowerPoint files at the moment. PPT or PPTX. It's not entirely blank, it just doesn't actually do a QuickLook.

[MlMt] Closing a search opens a message.

Hi, With one of the last beta/alpha updates, whenever I close a search I just performed by selecting - MailMate now opens in a separate window any message that I may have selected by clicking once on the list of search results. Is this toggleable somewhere? I can see how it could be useful

[MlMt] Importance: header.

Hi, Is there any way to tweak/modify/insert/whatever the Importance header within MailMate? I've noticed that Importance: high gets rendered with a ! in the Flags, but, I'm wondering how I could create a message which has a similar header (set to some other value, like low... Thanks,

Re: [MlMt] Importance: header.

Hi, Such headers are badly standardized, but if you know what works for the recipient then you can add a custom header as described [here](http://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences#composing). Look for `MmAdditionalComposerHeaders`. The example uses `X-Priority` which is another

Re: [MlMt] Importance: header.

One more question: Such headers are badly standardized, but if you know what works for the recipient then you can add a custom header as described [here](http://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences#composing). Look for `MmAdditionalComposerHeaders`. The example uses `X-Priority`

Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature

On 16 Apr 2014, at 9:56, Brett Terpstra wrote: TextExpander. That is all. Completely reasonable suggestion. I haven't used this previously, but am aware of what it can do. For the moment, it's just as fast to have Sublime Text or some other simple text processor open with a sample and

[MlMt] Flags/tags/colours.

Hi, Likely this has been asked and answered in the past... Apple Mail lets you flag different messages with different colours. There seems to be SOME support for that in MailMate, in that previously flagged messages from Mail.app show up with a different coloured flag in MailMate (I've seen

Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature

Hi Fabian, I don't know your exact case, but I as a colleague, customer and service provider hate it, when people don't include at least a telephone number to their emails. I have often dates with my clients and it is really annoying, when the traffic is bad and I'm not able to call them,

Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature

Hi Luca, So if I understand you correctly, you want MM to be trained *not* to insert a signature most of the time, and from time to time adding it yourself manually. That's one way to accomplish the goal. I honestly was thinking about this as simply as most other email applications I've

[MlMt] Non-automatic signature

Hi, I rarely want to use a signature in email, but, I want the option of using one of several, depending upon various contexts I care about. Is there a way to do this? It seems to be all or nothing, and whilst I appreciate the intelligence MailMate tries to use to decide which signature to

Re: [MlMt] Follow-up question on using Spamsieve with Mailmate

Hi, I've heard of Sieve, but although I've been managing Internet mail systems since the very early 90s, I have yet to actually encounter a site that actually uses it. At least, so far as I know -- maybe they use it and I don't know about it. It's actually been included with OS X for