[mailop] IngramMicro spam

Just a heads up… Seems I’m getting IngramMicro spam phishing attempts passing DKIM/SPF so probably a hacked account there sending email: [2022.10.21] 18:40:35.911 [37157707] [148.163.152.203] Valid reverse DNS entry found: mx0b-0021cb01.pphosted.com [2022.10.21] 18:40:36.536 [37157707] Running

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Dňa 21. októbra 2022 19:14:06 UTC používateľ Laura Atkins via mailop napísal: >No, they belong to all senders. > >For instance, my mail server can connect and send mail to t-online. I’m not >the only person who has said that in this thread. Do you mean the wordtothewise.com? regards --

Re: [mailop] T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

On 2022-10-21, Kai 'wusel' Siering via mailop wrote: [ in reply to a poster who had pain setting up new mxes ] > To stay ontopic here, the question is: _why_ were you getting "blocks left > and right"? And what were they? > > Was it a "fresh & clean" IPv4 address or one that had been abused in

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Because this topic appears to be generating so much interest, I'll toss my data into the ring. Data helps everything. I'm typing this progressively as I do the work, so that's why it doesn't read like something in which I've already reached a conclusion before typing it. I know I work my butt

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

On 10/21/22 1:02 PM, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: As many have pointed out, putting this information online may be harmful to privacy and even facilitate criminal acts against you. I still feel like there is room for an abstraction layer wherein you provide a postal address and telephone

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

No, they belong to all senders. For instance, my mail server can connect and send mail to t-online. I’m not the only person who has said that in this thread. Laura Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 21, 2022, at 6:49 PM, Gellner, Oliver via mailop > wrote: > >  >>> Am 21.10.2022 um 18:43

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Dnia 21.10.2022 o godz. 10:26:58 Michael Peddemors via mailop pisze: > T-Online isn't the only one that wants to see a website associated with the > domain in the PTR record, frankly others do that as well, and best practices > say that website should have contact information available. Contact

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Am 21.10.2022 um 18:43 schrieb Laura Atkins via mailop : The above statement is untrue. I know a number of mailservers that are able to successfully send mail to t-online.de and have never contacted the tosa@ address. Since when do those mailservers exist? Do they belong

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

T-Online isn't the only one that wants to see a website associated with the domain in the PTR record, frankly others do that as well, and best practices say that website should have contact information available. I don't think that is unreasonable ask, especially if traffic from that location

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Just to throw my experience in the ring in case it's helpful to anyone: I had a sender deliver just fine to T-Online until a couple of weeks ago when they were blocked for (what I determined after conversation with tosa@) not having a website with contact info available at the outbound mta's

Re: [mailop] T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Am 21.10.22 um 00:33 schrieb Graeme Fowler via mailop: No. There will be no changes to the Exim default configuration, nor should there be.If the suggestion was made of a commercial product with thousands of people behind it, it would likely result in costly litigation. Am 21.10.22 um 10:08

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On 10/21/22 10:30 AM, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: I know a number of mailservers that are able to successfully send mail to t-online.de and have never contacted the tosa@ address. I wonder if that hints at a thus-far un-discussed aspect of T-Online's policy. There is every chance that

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

> On 21 Oct 2022, at 17:16, Kai 'wusel' Siering via mailop > wrote: > > Moin, > >> Consider T-Onlines move more like the overall accepted policy of not >> accepting mail from IPs that somehow have traces of residential in their PTR >> (cable, dialup etc.)? > > No. As it's not relevant

Re: [mailop] T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Am 21.10.22 um 09:39 schrieb Florian Effenberger via mailop: I am neither a package maintainer nor a mail server developer, so my voice likely is just a very small one - but last year I've been gone through a lot of the pain with setting up a new mail server on a new IP address and getting

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Moin, am 21.10.22 um 08:02 schrieb Johannes Posel: Am 21.10.2022 um 04:01 schrieb Kai 'wusel' Siering via mailop :  I dont't talk about Reply-To; it's an irrelevant twist. The real world szenario is that some...@t-online.de mails to i...@verein.de ("verein" means association, club, …),

[mailop] Gesty and OVH behavior questions.. Shutting down early for the weekend.

Well, first rain in the Pacific Northwest in three months, the trees and the grass are happy .. and as a good excuse as any to make it a short week. But wanted to get this out for questions over the weekend. Gesty.. I think we all know this actor, and see their footprint all over the place,

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Hello, Bernardo Reino via mailop wrote on 21.10.22 at 16:32: Well Germans are not what they used to be , so maybe that one considered your insistence enough to whitelist you.. or perhaps the decision of when a server is commercial or not is not /that/ well-defined for them. maybe the term

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022, michael.zork--- via mailop wrote: [...] Here is my story: [...] I still didn't know what to do, so I asked again for details. Two emails later they still didn't tell me what the exact problem was, so I put my postal address on the website, maybe that helps. It didn't,

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Am 21.10.2022 um 13:28 schrieb Gellner, Oliver via mailop: On 21.10.22 08:03, Johannes Posel via mailop wrote: Am 21.10.2022 um 04:01 schrieb Kai 'wusel' Siering via mailop :  I dont't talk about Reply-To; it's an irrelevant twist. The real world szenario is that

Re: [mailop] T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

On 21/10/2022 15:36, Bjoern Franke via mailop wrote: And then tld.t-online.de sends e.g contact form spam from "anonym...@hostmaster.telekom.de" and produces backscatter. They don't even apply their own rules to their customers. Why should we accept mail from tld.t-online.de when we don't

Re: [mailop] T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Am 21.10.22 um 13:27 schrieb Gellner, Oliver via mailop: On 20.10.22 20:30, Kai 'wusel' Siering via mailop wrote: Since t-online.de is the only "walled garden mail domain" known – at least AFAIK? –, any email to and especially from @t-online.de should be rejected in any default configuration

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

On 21.10.22 08:03, Johannes Posel via mailop wrote: >> Am 21.10.2022 um 04:01 schrieb Kai 'wusel' Siering via mailop >> : >>  I dont't talk about Reply-To; it's an irrelevant twist. The real world >> szenario is that mailto:some...@t-online.de mails to

Re: [mailop] T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

On 20.10.22 20:30, Kai 'wusel' Siering via mailop wrote: > Since t-online.de is the only "walled garden mail domain" known – at least > AFAIK? –, any email to and especially from @t-online.de should be rejected in > any default configuration of any MTA. t-online.de is not the only domain. You

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

I found t-online.de and t-mobile.com have quite different mail policies. You can check these two domains of SPF and DMARC records. Isn't t-mobile owned by t-online? regards Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: One simple question (that I already stated in another email): did T-Online announce

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Dnia 20.10.2022 o godz. 23:21:35 Grant Taylor via mailop pisze: > > This type of security is often referred to as "gated communities". One simple question (that I already stated in another email): did T-Online announce clearly to their users that their email is a "gated community"? -- Regards,

Re: [mailop] T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Dnia 20.10.2022 o godz. 23:09:07 Grant Taylor via mailop pisze: > > I suspect that there are *MANY* Business-to-Business email servers that use > similar filtering and only allow /specific/ previously white listed > addresses to communicate. That's the exact same thing that T-Online is > doing.

Re: [mailop] T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

On 10/21/22 04:13, Kai 'wusel' Siering via mailop wrote: Am 21.10.22 um 00:33 schrieb Graeme Fowler via mailop: No. There will be no changes to the Exim default configuration So sad. It's up to the packagers then to fix the shit that hits the fan. Being a packager for exim, I can tell you

Re: [mailop] T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Hi, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote on 21.10.22 at 07:09: I believe there have been multiple others beside myself that think that T-Online should NOT be shunned in MTA /default/ configurations. I am neither a package maintainer nor a mail server developer, so my voice likely is just a very

Re: [mailop] Update: it's not. Re: T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

Dear Kai,Am 21.10.2022 um 04:01 schrieb Kai 'wusel' Siering via mailop : I dont't talk about Reply-To; it's an irrelevant twist. The real world szenario is that some...@t-online.de mails to i...@verein.de ("verein" means association, club, …), verein.de does run it's

Re: [mailop] T-Online is now really blocking messages from non-commercial and simliar senders

> From: Kai 'wusel' Siering > > Then a different check: > > I don't speak smail3^Hexim anymore, but I assume it's somewhat similar to > > telnet $mx 25 > if 2xx send quit > if 5xx set fuckem=1 && send quit || ignore errors > if $fuckem<1 die in_peace else wreck havoc > > ? I don't know why,