Re: [mailop] I trust my candor is appreciated...?

-06-09 15:44, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: These are hard issues to discuss, and I hope the view I present of how certain issues are viewed from behind the trenches of a large scale mail service are useful. Sometimes, what scales and what doesn't are not obvious. But the comment on

Re: [mailop] Microsoft/Hotmail discards mails

probably have not assented to the practice (I sincerely doubt Hotmail has communicated this approach to its _entire_ customer base). Mark. On 9/06/2016 2:08 p.m., Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > At the request of the customer-base, traffic that is classified as > sufficiently spamm

Re: [mailop] Quick practical question on DMARC.

You get reports of who out there is misusing your domain name, or if you’re misconfigured. DMARC is a way of telling others who to complain to if the authentication mechanism breaks, or exactly what you want done if the message doesn’t pass the various checks. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J

Re: [mailop] Microsoft holding IPs hostage?

Sorry, I’m missing the SRX…ID ticket number so I can figure out the most recent issues here. We have a solid rule not to discuss the reasons for blocking, as we’re forbidden to do, “Troubleshooting” for senders. I am interested in finding out what the refusal code was and getting that

Re: [mailop] Microsoft holding IPs hostage?

Followed up OffList. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From: Dickie LaFlamme [mailto:rlafla...@dyn.com] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [mailop] Mailchimp / Mandrill App: European VS US Privacy Laws

A DKIM-signed submission request? With IP, time stamp, and such like would be pretty undeniable intent to subscribe, IMHO. Or provide plenty of fodder for the sysadmin of the domain in question to track down the imposter. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your

Re: [mailop] Mailchimp / Mandrill App: European VS US Privacy Laws

Well, the From: domain would be a good start. It would certainly cut down on the trivial forgeries, and could easily be transferred from the web to email with a single mailto: link. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got

Re: [mailop] Mailchimp / Mandrill App: European VS US Privacy Laws

--Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Ted Cooper Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 5:17 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Mailchimp / Mandrill App: European VS US Privacy Laws On 11/06/16 09:29, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > > ... when the

Re: [mailop] Mailchimp / Mandrill App: European VS US Privacy Laws

ailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Ted Cooper Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 3:53 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Mailchimp / Mandrill App: European VS US Privacy Laws On 11/06/16 05:02, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > Well, the From: domain would be a good start. > > It would

[mailop] Is there a MimeCast rep in the house?

Please reply off-list, thanks! Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? ___ mailop

Re: [mailop] Microsoft/Hotmail discards mails

And they WILL notice. Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Eric Henson Sent: ‎6/‎9/‎2016 3:46 AM To: Renaud Allard Cc: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop]

[mailop] I trust my candor is appreciated...?

These are hard issues to discuss, and I hope the view I present of how certain issues are viewed from behind the trenches of a large scale mail service are useful. Sometimes, what scales and what doesn't are not obvious. But the comment on German law in particular is interesting, and ... Will

Re: [mailop] Microsoft/Hotmail discards mails

Unsure what you're saying. If it's the .DE extension, then by that logic, we, "explicitly target" a lot of users. Pretty much the whole world, actually. Or perhaps your point is lost on me. :) Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Dominique

Re: [mailop] Microsoft/Hotmail discards mails

The point is lost on you. So here it is, spelled out: There's a huge difference to most, "Senders" between a 250 and any kind of 4xx or 5xx refusal. Some top tier ESPs even have real-time graphs! Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Renaud Allard

Re: [mailop] signup form abuse

When you say, “Confirmation Clicks”, do you mean on a link provided via email, or a confirmation button of a web form? Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting

Re: [mailop] signup form abuse

Oh heck yeah. And if nothing else, it's Rule Fodder. Subject =~ /confirm [\da-f]{32}/ Body =~ /\bxx.yy.zz.\d+\b/ ... you know the drill. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original

Re: [mailop] signup form abuse

[ lightbulb / ] I've been thinking about this for a while, and just had a flash of brilliance (or madness, hard to tell at times...) You know what might be a good solution? Just occurred to me. The mailing list software displays a clickable link that will send an email address with a

Re: [mailop] signup form abuse

That may or may not be a good metric, since if I just signed up for a legit mailing-list, I may be anxiously awaiting the confirmation mail, or if I'm a robot, I might be backlogged a few tens of seconds. So the Venn Diagram circles just might overlap more than you would wish. Aloha, Michael.

Re: [mailop] Connection failures to Hotmail domains

Oh yeah, we're aware. Hearing some reports that the issue may have been mitigated, but until I hear anything from Inside the House, can't really comment except to say ... PRI:0, being worked on as I type. But not by me, as I have no insight into the inner workings. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael

Re: [mailop] signup form abuse

Yeah, pretty much. :) Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Jay Hennigan Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016

Re: [mailop] Microsoft/Hotmail discards mails

ed at the edge (i.e. proxy tier) and yet Message Trace didn’t show it. Thankfully we do have another SP for our MX and their logs clearly showed the rejection. Now if I could just combine the SP and O365 logs into Splunk (or similar) I’d be very happy and could find things much faster. :-) -Chad

Re: [mailop] Microsoft/Hotmail discards mails

At the request of the customer-base, traffic that is classified as sufficiently spammy (by various "Black Box" algorithms that I have no knowledge of the inner workings...) is deleted even after a successful delivery. At one point, Hotmail tried to turn off the delete action for sufficiently

Re: [mailop] signup form abuse

The problem with the, "Please Reply" method is that it can lead to mailbombing the target. We've seen it happen. Now if the intended subscriber could send a single message to the mailinglist, and it could be easily proved that it either came from them, or someone that their mail admin could

Re: [mailop] Connection failures to Hotmail domains

t;mailto:michael.w...@microsoft.com>> Cc: mailop <mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> Subject: Re: [mailop] Connection failures to Hotmail domains Thanks Mike. If you can, any update you receive (and can disclose) would be greatly appreciated. --Jaren On Wed,

Re: [mailop] Multiple DKIM signatures -- any benefit or detriment?

Some situations require multiple DKIM signatures for reasons that others have gone into at length. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop

Re: [mailop] signup form abuse

We're still seeing cases where a malicious actor, typically in Eastern Europe, will try and sign up a target email address for thousands of lists all at once, flooding their mailbox with confirmation traffic , perhaps to hide some other nefarious issues. If we could standardize the

Re: [mailop] signup form abuse

I suspect it's the hiding angle, but it's hard to tell. It does seem to be someone offering a, "Service" out of Eastern Europe. If the lists were unconfirmed, we'd block them; so the attack needs to use confirmed lists, and just bombard the target with what is, at least in theory, unblockable

Re: [mailop] domain research tools?

… I just call `whois` from BASH and pipe the results into `less`. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From: mailop

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Junk Mail Reporting Program

My top of mind suggestions on what might be a good idea to avoid trouble (getting your traffic auto-Junked, or your IPs blocked) might include the following, for what it's worth: If you get a sample from any FBL, for a given recipient, you should make sure that you can figure out who it is,

Re: [mailop] domain research tools?

Okay, NOW we're getting to some stuff that is distinct, but ... The problem for me is having solid evidence against a domain that was created 5 minutes ago, with forged or PrivacyGuard-ed credentials... Sometimes you just have to fall back to IP rep and header analysis. Or just say, "This was

Re: [mailop] Office365 issue

New IP? Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Sridhar Kakkillaya Sent: ‎7/‎25/‎2016 9:16 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: [mailop] Office365 issue A customer of our is having problem

Re: [mailop] Office365 issue

Tincture of Time. Or, if there's an Office365 customer involved, theh can open a ticket. What's the IP? Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Sridhar Kakkillaya Sent: ‎7/‎25/‎2016 9:25 AM To: Michael

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Junk Mail Reporting Program

ood enough to filter that out, so it won't affect an IPs/Domains reputation? Maybe a comment on why the UI guys don't make it more clear to the user, what a click on the junk/spam button will lead to? Regards Andreas Am 27.07.2016 um 21:45 schrieb Michael Wise via mailop: > > My top of

[mailop] Marketo rep in the House?

Please reply off-list. No need to ack on the list. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ?

Re: [mailop] 'x-originating-ip' is [25.162.68.132] ?

Have you tried doing a traceroute to it? :) Every so often we need to (re-)?explain this. That block, 25/8, is not in fact announced by anyone. Not the UK Ministry of Defense. Not Microsoft. Not Nobody. And at some point, there was a discussion, and it was agreed by some people, exactly who is

Re: [mailop] 'x-originating-ip' is [25.162.68.132] ?

Friday, July 15, 2016 4:30 PM To: Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com> Cc: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] 'x-originating-ip' is [25.162.68.132] ? Hi, On Jul 15, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Michael Wise via mailop <mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote

Re: [mailop] DMARC question

To the last question ... Yes. Unfortunately. Happens all the time, and while it's not frequent, it's a headache. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From:

Re: [mailop] Office365 still having issues?

Sorry, very long weekend intervened. Are there any issues still on-going? Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From: mailop

Re: [mailop] Office365 still having issues?

Office365 still having issues? Disregard as that was a red herring. On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 2:08 PM Ryan Boyd <rb...@groupon.com<mailto:rb...@groupon.com>> wrote: Not sure if anyone else is seeing it or if it is related to the original issue but we have been unable to connect sin

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Junk Mail Reporting Program

process! On 2016-07-27 21:45, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > My top of mind suggestions on what might be a good idea to avoid > trouble (getting your traffic auto-Junked, or your IPs blocked) might > include the following, for what it's worth: > > If you get a sample from

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Junk Mail Reporting Program

Wednesday, August 3, 2016 1:52 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Cc: Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com> Subject: Re: [mailop] Microsoft Junk Mail Reporting Program On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 19:45:39 +0000 Michael Wise via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > > My top of mind suggestions

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Junk Mail Reporting Program

ctiveness? > > - Wouldn't sending another message after getting the FBL negatively > impact the senders' reputation? > > It would be great to hear more of your thoughts on such a process! > > > > On 2016-07-27 21:45, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: >> My top of mind suggestio

Re: [mailop] automated looking mailchimp opt-ins (confused by)

mailop.org <mailto:mailop@mailop.org> > Subject: Re: [mailop] automated looking mailchimp opt-ins (confused by) > > What do you mean when you say "hey are attacking people for hire." ? > > Do you mean they are hired to attack our list? > > - mark > > >

Re: [mailop] automated looking mailchimp opt-ins (confused by)

imp opt-ins (confused by) What do you mean when you say "hey are attacking people for hire." ? Do you mean they are hired to attack our list? - mark On 2016-06-29 10:19 PM, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > > This ... is an attack for which I have become rather familiar. > I'm guessi

Re: [mailop] Failures to .mail.protection.outlook.com

Investigating, but seeing this traffic. Is there any clustering by datacenter? That would be the first 3 characters of the hostname Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kirk MacDonald Sent: ‎6/‎30/‎2016

Re: [mailop] automated looking mailchimp opt-ins (confused by)

c <mailto:mar...@easydns.com> >> Sent: ‎6/‎29/‎2016 8:17 PM >> To: mailop@mailop.org <mailto:mailop@mailop.org> >> Subject: Re: [mailop] automated looking mailchimp opt-ins (confused >> by) >> >> What do you mean when you say "hey are attacking peo

Re: [mailop] Failures to .mail.protection.outlook.com

ailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of David Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:44 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Failures to .mail.protection.outlook.com On 2016-06-30 9:36 AM, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > Investigating, but seeing this traffic. > Is there any clustering by datacent

Re: [mailop] Failures to .mail.protection.outlook.com

Much Thanks! Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From: Kirk MacDonald [mailto:kirk.macdon...@corp.eastlink.ca] Sent:

Re: [mailop] automated looking mailchimp opt-ins (confused by)

Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Rich Kulawiec Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:23 AM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] automated looking mailchimp opt-ins (confused by) On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 02:19:20AM +0000, Mi

Re: [mailop] automated looking mailchimp opt-ins (confused by)

This ... is an attack for which I have become rather familiar. I'm guessing that all the subscription request web connects are coming from Eastern Europe They are attacking people for hire. They flood the target accounts with thousands of subscription confirmations. Dig a bit deeper and

Re: [mailop] Are there any Microsoft people on the list?

Please be very specific about the Microsoft domain. Is it Hotmail and Office.com, as opposed to Office365 customers? How it's handled makes all the difference in the world. As Michael Ellis said, the best approach is to open a ticket if it's for, "HotMail" et all. If it’s Office365, I’m

Re: [mailop] Are there any Microsoft people on the list?

The rule is to give the robot 24 hours. If you don’t hear anything back, try replying to the email, and forward me the SRX codes, and I’ll poke some people here to see if I can find out what the hold-up is. No guarantees, but at least with the SRX numbers from the robot, I should be able

Re: [mailop] Are there any Microsoft people on the list?

Glorious! Sorry for the delay. Gonna blame the snow. Or something.  Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ?

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Deliverability

"Hotmail" and "Office365" are two entirely different systems in terms of how the mail is processed and how escalations can be handled. Which is it? Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting

Re: [mailop] Office365 EOP/phishing detection

Heh. These days, when I go home for the day, I am so gone home. I’m looking thru my inbox and having a hard time finding your email, could you ping me offline and tell me what the URL shortener is and I’ll have a peek. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis

Re: [mailop] Tracking Office 365 Delay notices?

There is no data to understand the nature of the problem. “recipi...@redacted.tld” might as well be “*” If there is some real data you can share with me privately, I can see what I can find out. Or, the user can raise an issue with Office365 Customer

Re: [mailop] Tracking Office 365 Delay notices?

Thanks, no worries. Replied in separate thread. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From: Aaron C. de Bruyn

Re: [mailop] Tracking Office 365 Delay notices?

No worries! ☺ $DIETY knows, these things happen. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From: Aaron C. de Bruyn

Re: [mailop] SNDS data missing

The Issue Has Been Resolved. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf

Re: [mailop] How many more RBL's do we really need?

om: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Michael Peddemors Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:23 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] How many more RBL's do we really need? On 16-08-30 12:43 PM, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > We could use one to call out the location of

Re: [mailop] Next step Hotmail escalation?

:) Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Michael Rathbun Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:55 PM

Re: [mailop] Next step Hotmail escalation?

ixed.? Signed, Disappointed in the Deliverability Fairy On Sep 15, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Michael Wise via mailop <mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: The robot can’t see / doesn’t care about the color of the smoke. Unlike a human. If there are things misbehaving in the system, a

Re: [mailop] Next step Hotmail escalation?

Angerbauer Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:40 PM To: mailop <mailop@mailop.org> Subject: Re: [mailop] Next step Hotmail escalation? Might also help, if using ceremonial smoke, to make sure and use the four representative smoke colors in the Microsoft logo. --Jaren On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at

Re: [mailop] anyone from Microsoft around ?

The headers in particular. And is this to Hotmail, et al or Office365? Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Steve Atkins Sent: ‎9/‎21/‎2016 5:56 AM To: mailop Subject: Re: [mailop] anyone from

Re: [mailop] Next step Hotmail escalation?

:( /Hmm... Replying to Mr. Rathbun offline. But as an aside, if one does reply to the "Mitigation Decision" emails and one doesn't get a response within 24 hours ... one should reply again, because that's an indication of the request being out of SLA, and there may be some other issues.

Re: [mailop] Hotmail / outlook.com issues

What I say to one, I say to all: First step for Hotmail (MSN, Live, etc... oh yes, and Outlook.com "Consumer" emails, as opposed to Office365) is... Go here (the link in my .Signature) and fill out the form. You should receive 2 emails, the first arriving almost ( ? ) immediately and telling

Re: [mailop] Problems sending to Hotmail.com etc

The block does look pretty bleak... http://www.senderbase.org/lookup/?search_string=109.228.14.0/24 Also, you should generally consider that any mitigation Hotmail applies comes with an implied, "Please allow 24 - 48 hours ..." Because, unfortunately, it does. Aloha, Michael. --

Re: [mailop] Tracking Office 365 Delay notices?

In this case, if I’m understanding it right, the traffic never got IN to the Office365 environment, or if so, it might not have been associated with the actual domain in question, but … the number of times I’ve used Message Trace can be counted on the fingers of one hand; I much prefer working

Re: [mailop] Tracking Office 365 Delay notices?

Indeed on the hoped-for button … It is possible in the other cases you refer to that the details to the left of @ were redacted in the Message Trace database. I normally try and do my debugging from the full headers, one way or another. There’s typically a way to get a test message delivered

Re: [mailop] How to Contact: Office365 Customer Support - as non customer (ISP)

On Behalf Of Benoit Panizzon Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 1:02 AM To: Michael Wise via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> Subject: [mailop] How to Contact: Office365 Customer Support - as non customer (ISP) Hi Michael Do you know if there is a way to contact the Office365 Mail 'Tech' Support, as

[mailop] Anyone having issues getting mail to AOL?

We're seeing some refusals saying: 521 5.2.1 : AOL will not accept delivery of this message Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Got the Junk Mail Reporting

Re: [mailop] Listbomb issue

Others have that I’m aware of, yes. The problem is that ultimately, the best place to detect this is on the receiving end. But it certainly helps out to have the larger mailing list companies aware that a single email address being signed up to more than a very small number of mailing lists

Re: [mailop] Confused by bounce

I can understand the desire to do it, but ... in a forum such as this, yer gonna have to get around to giving us the real data sooner or later, so I'd suggest providing it at the outset, just because. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Blacklisting IPs

+1. Without some hint as to the space in question ... I'm sure the range is very obvious to you, but the rest of us can only guess, and we won't. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ?

Re: [mailop] Confused by bounce

Dunno whether this is serious or not, what with the reference to example.com and all, but if it is ... I draw your attention to the SPF record’s single clause. If this was a test, it was poorly chosen. $ host -t txt example.com example.com descriptive text "v=spf1 -all" Aloha, Michael.

Re: [mailop] hotmail.com bouncing DMARC p=none emails

Well, there is a mismatch of the SPF records, the root for the domain says -all, but the included one that actually has the relevant /26 says ~all, but aside from that, I’d suggest that you open a ticket with Hotmail Support and ask what the issue is. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise |

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

If a reliable WHOIS replacement is not proffered... The Pro-Privacy crowd will have all the privacy they want and more. Because I suspect, personally, not speaking for my employer, that there will be many, many places where their connects will be refused without recourse. Aloha, Michael.

Re: [mailop] Is 88.blocklist.zap being EOLed?

Initial guess is, someone forgot to edit their refusal codes? Aloha, Michael. -- Sent from my Windows Phone From: Luis E. Muñoz Sent: ‎3/‎20/‎2017 9:07 AM To: mailop Subject: [mailop] Is 88.blocklist.zap

Re: [mailop] o365 de

Responded offlist. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

ARF. And a way to establish contacts automatically. Biggest issue in some places (*cough*) is getting the traffic sent OUT. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

porting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. ) On 2017-04-10 17:15:38 (+0000), Michael Wise via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: >And a way to establish contacts automatically. What's wrong with the well-known abuse@ address? Or postmaster@? If abuse@ bounces, I try postmaster@.

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

l 10, 2017 11:14 AM To: Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com> Cc: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. ) On Apr 10, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Michael Wise via mailop <mailop@mailop.org<mail

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

chael.w...@microsoft.com> wrote: >Philip Paeps <phi...@trouble.is> wrote: >>On 2017-04-10 17:15:38 (+), Michael Wise via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> >>wrote: >>>And a way to establish contacts automatically. >> >>What's wrong with the well-k

Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

p] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open > On Aug 1, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Michael Wise via mailop > <mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: > > > It's nice, from time to time, to be able to Telnet to port 25 and type in the > comm

Re: [mailop] emails offering email l;ists for sale

Depends. If the sender is Hotmail, Outlook, et al ... or if it's an Office365 customer, we always like to know about it. Prefer full headers at the very least. Can be reported to me, but we prefer it be sent to j...@office365.microsoft.com ... Preferably

Re: [mailop] mail.protection.outlook.de IPv6 broken

The issue is being investigated Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Anne P. Mitchell Esq.

Re: [mailop] mail.protection.outlook.de IPv6 broken

ailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Michael Wise via mailop Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 10:01 AM To: Anne P. Mitchell Esq. <amitch...@isipp.com>; mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] mail.protection.outlook.de IPv6 broken The issue is being investigated Aloha, Michael. -- Michael

Re: [mailop] Properly vetting an hosting provider before buying/moving

Looks like #1 is mostly Azure. Bringing this to certain peoples' attention now. ... Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop

Re: [mailop] btinternet.com blacklist

Let's not forget S.1618 Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [mailop] User question about getting off blocklists

To John's first point, some of us do require a bit of a nudge, even now. To the second point, if the requestor has no obvious connection to the IP, and is not the Postmaster (or equiv), some of us are going to recommend that the requestor reach out to their Postmaster to act on their behalf,

Re: [mailop] btinternet.com blacklist

You’d be surprised how many people think that their sincerity is flagged in the protocol somehow…. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting

Re: [mailop] Trouble with hotmail

What She Said. Plus, it appears the issue has been mitigated, and the traffic should be flowing again…? Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting

Re: [mailop] Microsoft spam folder issue (Forefront?) for a specific IP

 For Office365 issues, I will try to assist where I can, but must be … vague in some instances. For Hotmail issues, step #0 is always to fill out the form. Them’s the rules. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." | Open a

Re: [mailop] Concurrent Messages and Proper Time to Keep a Connection Open

It's nice, from time to time, to be able to Telnet to port 25 and type in the commands manually for testing. I know, I should write some simple scripts. ☹ Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail

Re: [mailop] Are SNDS colors still reliable?

I can’t comment, but if you can share an IP or two, I can give it a peek and … if there’s something wrong, might be able to shake something loose. But again, the first approach (and the second and third) would be to open a ticket and reply to the second email if a mitigation is not

[mailop] Does anyone have a contact at RegisteredSite / Netsol?

Some folks at work are asking, and I couldn’t remember anyone offhand. ☹ Our China datacenter has got some IPs listed. Would be grateful for any pointers / assistance. This is the block list we were talking about. http://emailadmin.registeredsite.com Some of our (Chinese Data Center) IP

[mailop] BTW guys ... MailOp signup page cert has expired.

https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop Just a FYI. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] SPF record

Forwarding ... is GROSSLY insecure and causes far more problems than it solves. Just grabbing the traffic from the original INBOX with IMAP or POP3 is a much more secure solution. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed."

Re: [mailop] SPF record

oft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? -Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Steve Atkins Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 2:52 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Subject: Re: [mailop] SPF record > On May 22, 2017, at 12:57 PM, Michael Wise vi

Re: [mailop] Hosted exchange/Office 365 specific domain junk issue (MLV:ovrnspm)

I’d need the full headers from BOTH samples. My suspicion is that the IPs used in each are different. Otherwise, without solid forensic data (the full headers), I’m not prepared to, “Guess Authoritatively”.  We need the full headers of both samples, from both the BCL:2 and BCL:7 emails.

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