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On 6/18/2022 3:40 PM, Noel Butler via mailop wrote:
As for forwarding, SPF is only a problem if you dont follow standards
and re-write
Hi.
You don't indicate what kind of rewriting you mean. It probably
doesn't matter, since you seem
alone commercially (a couple top 5 national "end user"
ISPs & one with web hosting) for all this time, no, I'm not a
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not it seems.
Even if the law of the land does not require it, it is the right thing
to do in being a good netizen.
On 17/06/2022 15:24, Mark Foster wrote:
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You should get a welcome message when
Act in this country and as google has Australian offices the ACMA
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in at least one RBL
(spam.sorbs...)
Before asking them for removal I suggest you find the offenders and kick
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certain it is doing it in pop transaction or just guessing?
Pasting a short snippet of your evidence might help someone take notice.
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blocks away from their core, microsoft, not so much thought.
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angely though, 99% of linodes crap is via IPv6, but Microsoft's
ranges are IPv4.
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On 12/03/2022 11:20, Luis E. Muñoz via mailop wrote:
On 11 Mar 2022, at 19:09, Noel Butler via mailop wrote:
Firslty yes, seen too many issues with SORBS, we removed them about 3
weeks ago, the problems have been ongoing for months.
Just wrapping up a trial with them for a traffic sample
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, for decades with next to no issues, also means if I changed
employers I don't have to have downtime moving it all the time, I'm
always sus of those who change IP's all the time, appears they have been
up to no good.
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Yes, but why would I block you specifically, are you spamming in your
spare time tst tst :)
On 17/01/2022 13:08, Mary via mailop wrote:
You are still getting my mail via mailop, so all is fine :)
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You dont send to us
st
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domain-- the one
for the station-- had a perfectly cromulent record, oddly enough.
dkim=fail reason="key not found in DNS
You might want to work on that one too ;)
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nt get all those
vacation replies, so you probably got years before they do anything.
Both of those slack arse companies have been blocked for 30 days here on
and off a few times, no doubt they will be again because yep, their care
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Happy New Year!
now for bad news, i'm back :)
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Mark, you do realise, that information *is already there* in the
header, well, for network operators it is, as its encrypted but
roundcube
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now to find out
who it is, the ISP sure as hell is not going to tell the alleged victim
their alleged perpetrators name and address or phone number or anything,
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ase.
get over it.
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that all outgoing emails that are using IPv6 addresses,
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might last a tiny bit longer)
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and why some of the ISP's do it, as for ISP, its also an
agreed method for Federal Court ordered site blockings for copyright
infringing (iinet v movie-industry )
... I think someone wasa right, this is really a dnsops list thread :)
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to cloudfare, Q9 et al,
and some even redirect all., and no, those ISP's are not just in china
either, they are in some major western societies.
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org/result/99fbf54020a2b9a9
Seems they have an issue or 2 with dnssec
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;; SERVER: 10.10.0.254#53(10.10.0.254)
;; WHEN: Sun Nov 14 20:19:28 AEST 2021
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 131
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;; WHEN: Sun Nov 14 10:35:58 AEST 2021
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. They probably also sleep better at night
knowing this :)
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t cost 10's to 100's of thousands, maybe if you get to
size of Microsoft or google you might, but for most of us here, nah, our
2 LB's cost about 4K each, but that was a while back :)
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recommended:
https://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh
Just be careful of this one now, it no longer defaults to LE, it uses
zerossl, because its rights are now owned by them.
You can re-enable LE as default though by
acme.sh --set-default-ca --server letsencrypt
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ay padlock in his GMail client instead of red!
Given
that my VPS provider seems to have direct peering with Google, I doubt
it
improves real security in any way.
Thanks for reading so much,
Alexey.
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On 06/08/2021 01:38, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
problem from
Google from time to time; especially when I post a lot to mailing lists
like
this one, my mails start suddenly going to spam at Gmail).
I'm starting to like google again buwahahaha
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On 06/08/2021 00:08, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote:
5. August 2021 14:52, "Noel Butler via mailop"
schrieb:
pt NEWSFLASH the blocking is to the advantage of end users
(sorry for inital empty response, mail program malfunction)
If you block only spammers you'
On 05/08/2021 19:07, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
Dnia 5.08.2021 o godz. 11:18:55 Noel Butler via mailop pisze:
This only happens because as demonstrated here many are too scared
to block the bigger mail senders/providers - and since these gutless
so and so's publicly admit it, the big
if we all did, they'd sure as hell notice that.
Digital Ocean went public based on how many customers they
Ahhh another mob who have a fair chunck of their IP space blacklisted
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like Google to make a work-around for some
other much smaller provider who is choosing to be non-standard. After
all, the BOFH is making
wow fancy google talking about non standard as a bad thing, thanks, you
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, again, no they are not, and
yes, we have, multiple times.
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On 11/06/2021 16:51, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote:
Am 11.06.21 um 06:14 schrieb Noel Butler via mailop:
MS sending out mail with no rdns?
Jun 10 09:20:20 cust-mta01 postfix/smtpd[8137]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT
from unknown[40.92.62.80]: 554 5.7.1 Client host
rejected: cannot find your
. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
Michael, any chance you can get this sorted?
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Test #133683 - digilicious.com
https://www.zonemaster.fr/result/d02eb1719121efa2
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On 29/04/2021 20:05, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
Dnia 29.04.2021 o godz. 13:04:55 Noel Butler via mailop pisze:
nobody, but nobody, is too big to block to protect my users.
And what if your users because of being unable to communicate with
Google
users (which is roughly equal
On 28/04/2021 17:05, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
Dnia 28.04.2021 o godz. 10:19:17 Noel Butler via mailop pisze:
What's so hard about 1 ?
What do we do with any S.P. that emits tonnes of crap, we block
them, often outright, nothing hard about that.
It shouldn't matter how big a company
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strictions =
...
reject_rbl_client
zen.spamhaus.org=127.0.0.[2..255]
...
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; given that 80% of email inboxes around the world are validating
DMARC."
LOL
I think that figure is a tad optimistic, probably more like 8% and even
might be a bit generous
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who needs flogging.
./don
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On 17/10/2020 04:12, Bill Cole via mailop wrote:
> On Bill Cole via mailop wrote:
>
> Apparently enough people like https://dmarcian.com to keep them in business.
I'll second dmarcian, used them for a while
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> about what they're doing with the data likely have a lot more instrumentation
> and the ability to track users than the telcos do.
Exactly!
In fact, if "free uncounted traffic usage" to select sites/networks
(mirrors, MS, netflix) was not thing, netflow wouldn't be either.
the ISP, NAT doesnt matter - unless your one of the
unlucky souls forced to run CGNAT that is
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> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020, Noel Butler via mailop wrote:
>
> On 07/07/2020 01:01, Johann Klasek via mailop wrote:
>
> I have been told that DoH is set into place to solve the privacy
> problem. On a small DNS workg
hew Prince came here and said they were not
logging, I still would be VERY skeptical and not take him at face value.
I don't trust organisations that want to try centralise the Internet.
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gt;
> Thanks,
> Mark
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On 24/10/2019 07:20, Brielle via mailop wrote:
> On 10/23/2019 3:05 PM, Noel Butler via mailop wrote: Reality is, your mere
> suggestion of regulation / courts to make providers accept your e-mail makes
> you a liability to my services. That will never happen, precedent already
> s
memory??) blocked his trash, the courts
ruled they can block whoever they like, now might just be aussie, but if
your in the commonwealth at least that does hold weight, not sure about
in US but I dare say a defendant can use such a precedence to sway even
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00's.
MS couldnt figure it out then, why should we think they can now :)
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On 27/08/2019 20:37, Rob McEwen via mailop wrote:
> On 8/27/2019 3:22 AM, Noel Butler via mailop wrote:
>
>> oh btw rob, your message was found in Junk because
>> 3.7 FORGED_RELAY_MUA_TO_MX
>> kinda funny how spamassassin already knows where to put your mail haha
>
to put your mail haha
On 27/08/2019 08:01, Noel Butler via mailop wrote:
> On 26/08/2019 13:45, Rob McEwen via mailop wrote:
> On 8/25/2019 11:33 PM, Noel Butler via mailop wrote:
>
> borders on spam
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borders on spam
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On 19/05/2019 03:47, Steve Dodd wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2019 at 01:00, Noel Butler via mailop
> wrote:
>
>> I am using HE tunnels and can access them
>
>> the demos I provided yesterday were all from HE tunnels
>>
>> nothing to see here, time to move
t
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e a DKIM entriy (cause disproved by Amazon's own
>> customer showing that he can perfectly send emails to recipients in
>> other domains which also do not have a DKIM entry)
>>
>> Mit freundlichen Grüssen
>>
>> -Benoît Panizzon-
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that as well.
>
> And, of course, no one has to accept mail from anyone else.
>
> Brandon
>
> FROM: Noel Butler via mailop
> DATE: Wed, May 15, 2019 at 1:34 PM
> TO:
>
> nobody is too big to be blocked, despite the thinkings of such beasts
>
> On 16/05/2019 02:3
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nt has been
> generated. No different to sending those emails via Mailgun, SendGrid,
> Postmark, etc.
>
> Cheers, Angelo
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 5:21 PM Noel Butler via mailop
> wrote:
>
> On 07/05/2019 15:22, Scot Berggren via mailop wrote:
> Che
ager | Alterian US | +1 720
> 320-5365 | www.alterian.com [1]
What Australian bank uses an offfshore emailing service to send
statements?
Fraught with danger, no wonder you have deliverability issues
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On 30/04/2019 17:08, Thomas Walter via mailop wrote:
> On 30.04.19 04:45, Noel Butler via mailop wrote: On 30/04/2019 05:35, Andreas
> Klein via mailop wrote: so the SPF
> check will fail if the FROM of the original message is retained and an
> SPF record exists for that domain.
>
t through SPF tests (much to the annoyance of some
LOL), and I use hardfail -all.
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t to dictate to the world how they want things done .. didnt
that fail before... you know... Microsoft...
pffft if people choose to use a freemail service tehy have to accept
*all* risks along with it.
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ck fix I'll let them know now before I take
my week off
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h your fingers in your ears screaming "I'm
> ignoring you!" at John. It's churlish, and trust me, John doesn't care, nor
> does anyone else here care.
>
> Regards,
> Al Iverson
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 10:18 AM Noel Butler wrote:
>
> Not from wh
Not from where I'm sitting, nor from others, going by some offlist
messages I've had about him.
On 01/01/2019 00:04, Al Iverson wrote:
> If you're blocking Levine, you're doing it wrong.
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 1:06 AM Noel Butler wrote:
>
> On 31/12/2018 14:33,
On 31/12/2018 14:33, Bill Cole wrote:
> On 30 Dec 2018, at 20:18, Noel Butler wrote:
>
>> I dont see levines posts, they hit a
>> blacklist and a troll URIlist and get discarded so missed whatever its
>> about
>
> Why ask us to help with something you can fi
t here to a non-existent address,
> Dec 25 16:25:37 ... 553 5.3.0 ... No such user here
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On 30/11/2018 03:34, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
> Il 29 novembre 2018 alle 17.55 "Anne P. Mitchell, Esq."
> ha scritto:
>
> On Nov 29, 2018, at 4:33 AM, Noel Butler wrote:
>
> you're of course speaking from U.S.A. law point, NEWSFLASH: the U.S.A is not
>
On 30/11/2018 02:55, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote:
> On Nov 29, 2018, at 4:33 AM, Noel Butler wrote:
>
> On 29/11/2018 03:36, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote:
>
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nitwit, didn't see that
post, so Anne could you please fix your mail client so if it includes
quotes, it states who the turd is that posts it.
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On 28/11/2018 17:53, Thomas Walter wrote:
> Hey Noel,
>
> On 28.11.18 04:22, Noel Butler wrote:
>
>> This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged
>> information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright
>> protected un
.
> And just because you don't want a reply to, and don't feel a need to
> 'thread', still no reason not to generate a reasonable 'Message-ID' header..
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Hi,
I've heard when they have high volumes of mail, it can take them a
couple of days to get to you.
Though my information is about 10 years old, I dare say it's only got
worse with the increase in spam so you might end up waiting a bit longer
now days.
Michelle might chime in on wait times
On 30/10/2018 09:29, Noel Butler wrote:
> On 30/10/2018 03:18, Bill Cole wrote:
> On 29 Oct 2018, at 12:41, Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote:
>
> N.B. please don't CC me, I'm subscribed to the list.
> I normally wouldn't, but your posts all have this header:
>
> Re
that's being added by Mailman for some reason...
Nope, Jim is forcing that, not mailman, I just use reply to all which
roundcube sees it as reply to list, and only replies to list (in all but
some unusual cases)
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ast week, after giving up on
certbot and trying Crypt::LE (since I know perl) it did what we needed
easily right away, it took all of 5 mins to write the automation
processes and test them.
I just wish LE had better docs.. oh well... one day maybe...
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tant success, it was painless to use even for
(tested at least) renews, although it requires a working webserver so
come time to replace my comodo's on my MX's, will give me another
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o big', stop caring because they know they are safe because they are
> 'too big'...)
*nod*
I took out google for 2 weeks a while back, and they are bordering on
being blocked again right now as it so happens
nobody and i mean nobody is too big to be blocked
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oes anyone have a contact, or know the status of this blacklist?
Good to know its not just me, they either discreetly shutdown, or have
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> In article <6582089ce2ad3fb3fd074ada73672...@ausics.net>,
> Noel Butler <noel.but...@ausics.net> wrote:
>
>> Agreed, if I publish a -all (which I do and have done for a very very
>> long time), I expect receivers d
On 15/12/2017 10:29, st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote:
> December 15, 2017 1:12 PM, "Noel Butler" <noel.but...@ausics.net> wrote:
>
> On 15/12/2017 09:27, Grant Taylor via mailop wrote:
> On 12/14/2017 03:28 PM, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: My point is that -all
ight, something I
can *NOT* say about DKIM, which has given us grief, so much so, we
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