A little research:
1. "zypper info gnash" on openSUSE 11.2 yields the following
Repository: openSUSE-11.2-Oss
Name: gnash
Version: 0.8.5-2.3
Arch: x86_64
Vendor: openSUSE
Installed: No
Status: not installed
Installed Size: 9.4 MiB
Summary: Free Flash movie player
Description:
Gnash is a Free Fla
Quoting "Wichmann, Mats D" :
And in a different message, Auke writes:
Let's just focus on Open Source issues with MeeGo?
Bdale mentioned Gnash, and other folks said it's not good enough.
Can we help with this as individuals? For example, WINE has
had an active program to have people report d
meego-dev-boun...@meego.com wrote:
> Nokia ships devices with Flash support, both on the Symbian
> and Maemo worlds.
> It's the Adobe version, so it must be a separate deal between Adobe and
> Nokia.
>
> Intel doesn't have devices to ship, just chips.
>
> Either way, Adobe Flash will never make
15 mar 2010 kl. 19.09 skrev Thiago Macieira:
> Em Segunda-feira 15 Março 2010, às 18:11:39, Auke Kok escreveu:
>> On 03/13/10 14:03, Göran Eriksson wrote:
>>> 1. How do the MeeGo community (including Nokia and Intel) look upon the
>>> role of WRT's in MeeGo in general
>>>
>>> and html5 in pa
15 mar 2010 kl. 23.03 skrev Thiago Macieira:
> Em Segunda-feira 15. Março 2010, às 22.48.19, Göran Eriksson escreveu:
>> I was actually not thinking about Nokia Web Runtime when writing "WRT" even
>> though I understand that some/many associate it with Nokia WRT.
>>
>> Nah- I was referring to bo
Em Segunda-feira 15. Março 2010, às 21.55.43, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky escreveu:
> This is a strategic business decision, not a purely technical one.
> Steve Jobs has made the strategic business decision that his platform
> will not support Flash. What is Intel/Nokia's decision?
Nokia ships devi
Em Segunda-feira 15. Março 2010, às 22.48.19, Göran Eriksson escreveu:
> I was actually not thinking about Nokia Web Runtime when writing "WRT" even
> though I understand that some/many associate it with Nokia WRT.
>
> Nah- I was referring to both browser and widget engines actually- will be
> mor
On 03/15/10 14:55, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
There's also legal research required - IIRC Nokia is suing Apple and
Apple is suing HTC for various patent-related reasons. There might be
some patents Adobe holds that are relevant.
while this is maybe an interesting development (from some persp
On 03/15/10 09:23, Göran Eriksson wrote:
Agree completely- MeeGo should be at the cutting edge of both native
and web app development (and then I mean browser based, not only
widget runtimes), :-)!
And this is important to Intel/Nokia - we really do want to produce a
new platform that excites
There's also legal research required - IIRC Nokia is suing Apple and
Apple is suing HTC for various patent-related reasons. There might be
some patents Adobe holds that are relevant.
--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky/
"A mathematician is a device for turning c
I was actually not thinking about Nokia Web Runtime when writing "WRT" even
though I understand
that some/many associate it with Nokia WRT.
Nah- I was referring to both browser and widget engines actually- will be more
precise from now on, :-)!
Göran
15 mar 2010 kl. 18.11 skrev Auke Kok:
> O
Agree completely- MeeGo should be at the cutting edge of both native and web
app development (and then I mean browser based, not only widget runtimes), :-)!
Göran
15 mar 2010 kl. 13.04 skrev Robin Jewsbury:
> Can I make a point from an external developer about HTML5 support. Whilst
> it's int
Yep, coming out with a phone and saying "it fully supports flash 10.1" could
potentially be a major selling point when competing against others who have
either no support, or only (sometimes partially) support older versions,
though of course I have not done the specific market research to figure o
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Yeah ... I hope they're working on it, because the costs and benefits
are significant, and the "market pundits" don't universally agree that
Jobs is correct. It makes sense for Apple but not necessarily for
Intel / Nokia.
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Right, I'm just saying their decision should be based on business or
technical merits and not simply because some people just don't like flash.
--
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From: M. Edward (Ed) Borasky [mailto:zn...@cesmail.net]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 3:56 PM
To: Katrina Niolet
Katrina Niolet wrote:
> Keep in mind that flash is not used only for pointless youtube
> videos and
> bad programming, there are sites like hulu.com which rely on
> flash because
> there is no widely available alternative currently for
> delivering the kind
> of media experience they want to give.
This is a strategic *business* decision, not a purely technical one.
Steve Jobs has made the strategic business decision that his platform
will not support Flash. What is Intel/Nokia's decision?
Do they think Steve Jobs is wrong? Are they willing to finance open
source Flash libraries that
Simply not supporting flash does put pressure on those sites which could
work just as well without it, but not all sites using flash fall into that
category currently. The biggest reason flash has proliferated is that there
is a void that they were able to fill, so while everyone hates it, everyone
I have not found a usable open source comprehensive Flash tool set.
Hell, I can't even find a usable open source Flash *browser plugin*. I
suppose there are patents, etc., that prevent such things from being
built. I think Apple is right on this one - Flash should die in a
fire. ;-)
--
M.
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 13:59 -0600, Wichmann, Mats D wrote:
> meego-dev-boun...@meego.com wrote:
> >> Do you
> >> actually want this on your device?
> >
> > Indeed, and some companies do want it.
>
> Well of course, I was being silly. "Everybody has it"
> is a powerful argument that consumer-dev
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:48:28 -0600, "Wichmann, Mats D"
wrote:
> 1. supporting Flash is not up to anyone but Adobe,
> as they control the code and it's definitely not open.
> Once there's a deal in place someone can presumably
> provide advice or more, but only to the extent
> Adobe is willing to
meego-dev-boun...@meego.com wrote:
>> Do you
>> actually want this on your device?
>
> Indeed, and some companies do want it.
Well of course, I was being silly. "Everybody has it"
is a powerful argument that consumer-device mfg's
will have a very hard time saying no to, and perhaps
they should
Em Segunda-feira 15 Março 2010, às 18:48:28, Wichmann, Mats D escreveu:
> 1. supporting Flash is not up to anyone but Adobe,
> as they control the code and it's definitely not open.
> Once there's a deal in place someone can presumably
> provide advice or more, but only to the extent
> Adobe is wil
Em Segunda-feira 15 Março 2010, às 18:11:39, Auke Kok escreveu:
> On 03/13/10 14:03, Göran Eriksson wrote:
> > 1. How do the MeeGo community (including Nokia and Intel) look upon the
> > role of WRT's in MeeGo in general
> >
> > and html5 in particular? Which role do WRT's play in MeeGo visio
meego-dev-boun...@meego.com wrote:
> Thus Apples refusal to allow Flash on their Messiah
> pad/pod/phone gives everyone else an incentive to support it!
Well, let's make a couple of observations:
1. supporting Flash is not up to anyone but Adobe,
as they control the code and it's definitely not
On 03/15/10 10:19, EdPimentl wrote:
http://www.helenos.org/features
and which ones in here are missing from the linux kernel, or would you
think would be an interesting addition to MeeGo?
It's allright to ask MeeGo to "please support feature X". But please be
exact and precise, and give me
http://www.helenos.org/features
-E
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Auke Kok wrote:
> On 03/14/10 11:25, EdPimentl wrote:
>
>> Are there any platform features of HelenOS which the MeeGo team would want
>> to incorporate in the future?
>> http://www.helenos.org/
>>
>
>
WRT is Web RunTime
http://www.forum.nokia.com/Technology_Topics/Web_Technologies/Web_Runtime/
- Steven
From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] On Behalf Of
ext Auke Kok [auke-jan.h@intel.com]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 7:11 PM
On 03/13/10 14:03, Göran Eriksson wrote:
1. How do the MeeGo community (including Nokia and Intel) look upon the role of
WRT's in MeeGo in general
and html5 in particular? Which role do WRT's play in MeeGo vision?
go go html5!
html5 is an extremely interesting technology that we will mos
On 03/14/10 11:25, EdPimentl wrote:
Are there any platform features of HelenOS which the MeeGo team would want to
incorporate in the future?
http://www.helenos.org/
what features does helenos provide that are missing from the linux kernel?
I don't find much on their webpage, and I don't have
2010/3/15 Andreas Osowski :
> (This is a repost from the meego-community mailing list, as Quim Gil said
> that not all of the ppl here are registered
> the other list and also given that this is a rather dev-related topic)
>
> Hello everyone,
> I shall announce to you the first meego repository wo
(This is a repost from the meego-community mailing list, as Quim Gil said that
not all of the ppl here are registered
the other list and also given that this is a rather dev-related topic)
Hello everyone,
I shall announce to you the first meego repository working group meeting.
Based upon the vo
Can I make a point from an external developer about HTML5 support. Whilst
it's interesting that firefox does support many HTML5 features, it is not
very useful to an external developer unless firefox is pre-installed and the
default browser. So, can I request that MeeGo's default browser suppo
On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Quim Gil wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ext Andreas Osowski wrote:
>> Hello everyone, I shall announce to you the first meego repository
>> working group meeting. Based upon the votes received so far it'll be
>> on Sunday next week (21. March). The time has yet to be decided upon;
> - Original message -
> From: "Alexey Zakhlestin"
> To: "Randall Arnold"
> Subject: Re: [Meego-community] Qt | Podcasting + conferencing + Twitter
> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:15:28 +0300
>
>
>
> On 15.03.2010, at 2:26, Randall Arnold wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for feedback and possi
On 15.03.2010, at 2:26, Randall Arnold wrote:
> I'm looking for feedback and possible collaboration on a project. The idea
> is podcasting + conferencing + listener input (twitter, et al). Google
> Summer of Code candidate maybe?
>
> More on my blog:
> http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com/2
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