My first VW was a '98 Jetta (A3) and is one of my favorite cars ever. A bit
rattly and unrefined but really fun to drive. With the TDI engine it made
around 50mpg pretty much the whole time I owned it.The majority of the problems
I had with the car were rust and age related. It finally got to
I wonder if theres a big difference between diesel and gas engines too. The
ones I've driven were all gasser rentals...
-Curt
On Saturday, September 19, 2020, 2:36:56 PM EDT, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
wrote:
There was a HUUUGE difference in the DSG transmission in the 2014 Beetle
I also have towing on my insurance policy.
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 2:39 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> In my experience, batteries are fine, until suddenly they are not.
>
> They can overnight go from starting fine to not having enough juice to
> even turn the
In my experience, batteries are fine, until suddenly they are not.
They can overnight go from starting fine to not having enough juice to
even turn the engine.
If your battery is seven years old I'd advise replacing it, or at least
carrying a set of jumper cables in your car (few people do these
There was a HUUUGE difference in the DSG transmission in the 2014 Beetle
TDI and the nearly identical new 2015. The 2014 was quite jerky starting out
like a novice driving a manual, and the 2015 was nearly as smooth as a
conventional automatic transmission. The shifts were quick and crisp.
I had a Jetta once, a 1991 model year (A2) purchased new (I was young
and my dad always bought his cars new, so I just thought that was the
right way to do it). I paid between $12K and $13K for it IIRC. 5-speed
manual, 1.8l NA 8v engine. This was a non-interference engine which was
important given
If you still want the best diesel I recommend the 250 GLK BlueTEC which was
made from 2013 through 2015. Mine still has the original seven-year-old
varta battery which is strong and does not need replacement despite being
drained twice in the last month. My most recent fuel economy was nearly 36
I saw $1.99 Diesel yesterday.
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 11:56 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> Speaking of low demand I've actually seen diesel prices start to sink.
> They sat at $2.59 from basically the beginning of the year. Gas prices fell
> $0.30 while diesel
I HATE DSG transmissions. I hate how they sound, I hate how they jerk in a
parking lot. I hate the feeling during shifts and they're fragile. Nothing to
like about those.
The 6spd manual in my Jetta is a fantastic transmission, it shifts smoothly and
its geared nicely to live with. Sure its
Speaking of low demand I've actually seen diesel prices start to sink. They
sat at $2.59 from basically the beginning of the year. Gas prices fell $0.30
while diesel held constant.
Recently I've seen diesel as low as $2.39. An annoyingly slow drop but its
about time.
-Curt
On Friday,
On 2020-09-19 11:40, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
Yes I take your point on test conditions, but I would like to see the
language of that law.
I doubt the Clean Air Act says diddly about what qualifies as meeting
standards, that, as well as the standards themselves, is a regulatory
Yes I take your point on test conditions, but I would like to see the
language of that law. I would argue any time multuple auto manufacturers
are found to be in multibillion dollar violation of a law, that either the
law is poorly written or the interpretation of that law was changed. Like
Not quite accurate - our Passat TDI was one of the cheating cars and needed
BlueTec fluid. The only things I didn't like about that car were the
maintenance costs for the dual clutch tranny, the seats were not as
comfortable as the W124, and the wind noise was higher than an old W124 at
70mph.
On
No, the testing is supposed to be done with exactly the same operational
parameters in the computers as real world driving conditions.
The fine is for writing software that figured out when the vehicle was being
emission tested and using DIFFERENT operational parameters in order to meet the
Missed opportunity. They don't import any diesels any more that I am aware
of. I looked for a diesel suv in 2018 and couldnt find any.at the dealers.
Our old 2014 vw touareg diesel is still chugging merrily around the black
hills with my sister at the wheel. Pushes 40mpg on the highway. 400 ft
Thank you... I could not restrain my sarcastic muscle, which is likely
overdeveloped.. ;))
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 5:57 PM Craig via Mercedes
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> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 14:56:28 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> > O... The humanity !!!
> >
> > Now, California will have to burn yet
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 14:56:28 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
> O... The humanity !!!
>
> Now, California will have to burn yet another 4 million acres of mature
> forest to balance the earth's atmosphere...
> [Sarcasm intended here folks]
Good use of sarcasm, Grant! Thanks!
Craig
We may be heading to the promised land of hydrogen. The current viral unrest
has caused a depression in fossil fuel demand, with a decrease in value. With
fuel hanging around $40 bbl there is no incentives to sink funding into
production, exploration, or delivery. Long term outlook is for
> Nor appreciated.
I appreciated it. I wonder how all that 'evil' pollution compares to the
emissions
from just this one fire season? Much of our politicized responses these days
lacks perspective, and reasonableness.
This is the most interesting part:
>>> The company
>>> will pay another
> We allowed GM, Standard Oil, and Goodyear Rubber to addict us to driving all
> time, which I'm coming to intensely dislike.
I now rarely drive, as it turns out. I'm liking it. I thought GM's buying up
and ending mass transit
back in the day was pretty heinous.
-- Jim
The problem with the diesels and NOx is that it's not possible to meet the
standard. With ANY diesel engine. Bad standard, as the NOx isn't all that
much worse than what's produced by gasoline engines, which also produce quite a
bit of particulate pollution.
The real solution for clean air
Nor appreciated.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 5:57 PM G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
> O... The humanity !!!
>
> Now, California will have to burn yet another 4 million acres of mature
> forest to balance the earth's atmosphere...
> [Sarcasm intended here folks]
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 11:50 AM
O... The humanity !!!
Now, California will have to burn yet another 4 million acres of mature
forest to balance the earth's atmosphere...
[Sarcasm intended here folks]
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 11:50 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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>
>
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/massive-15-billion-proposed-settlement-announced-alleged-vehicle
The U.S. Department of Justice, Environmental Protection Agency, and
California Air Resources Board on Monday announced a proposed settlement
worth around $1.5 billion with auto
I thought of something funny but I guess it would be better for banned.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 30, 2018, at 9:01 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
> The carmaker Volkswagen has suspended its head of external relations and
> sustainability after admitting
The carmaker Volkswagen has suspended its head of external relations and
sustainability after admitting that he had known about experiments in which
monkeys were locked in small chambers and exposed to diesel exhaust.
The Volkswagen emissions scandal explained
Read more
Thomas Steg, a former
You can't make this stuff up . . .
"If there's one thing that Germans like more than generating profits from
selling luxury automobiles, it's sausages. At a recent Daimler shareholder
meeting, two investors got into such an argument over the complimentary
wursts that the police had to be called
AUTOS:Following Tesla, Daimler enters the at-home battery space
Published: Thursday, June 11, 2015
Last summer, Tesla Motors Inc., in a move meant to stimulate improvements
in electric vehicle technology and an expansion of the sector, made its
patents free to outsiders.
Since then, Toyota Motor
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150306/PC05/150309570/1177
Diamler imports Sprinters that have had the engine assemblies removed
from finished trucks (some sort of law that does not allow them to be
imported whole) and puts them back together at a plant in the area. Now
it looks like
i (for one) wish buying a simple car was an option here. what would it
cost? would a Mercedes built today last 25, 30, 35 years?
consider that the 300D sold for upwards of $30K in the 1980s...
cheers!
e
On 22/Sep/14 18:48, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
i (for one) wish buying a simple car was an option here. what would it
cost? would a Mercedes built today last 25, 30, 35 years?
consider that the 300D sold for upwards of $30K in the 1980s...
I'd not be in the market for a new one. The problem is they're
not really making the things now
-- Jim wrote:
The problem is they're
not really making the things now that I'd want to buy used in
the future.
That is totally true. I agree entirely!!
ma
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They could do it with the E250 and I would not complain one bit.
Are you suggesting that if MBUSA would let you buy a taxi grade E250 diesel
you'd consider it?
Mitch.
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Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
They could do it with the E250 and I would not complain one bit.
Are you suggesting that if MBUSA would let you buy a taxi grade E250 diesel
you'd consider it?
Mitch.
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consider it if they
could come in around $20k.
-Curt
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They could do it with the E250 and I would not complain one bit.
Are you suggesting
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Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
They could do it with the E250 and I would not complain one bit.
Are you suggesting that if MBUSA
Given the $60k price of the USA version, I'm thinking $40k (average price of a
F250 Powerstroke ten years ago) would be a miracle.
Mitch.
On September 22, 2014 at 10:13 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
No. The 123 300D's cost that in the 80's. Nice dream.
On Sep
Interesting that around the early 1980s when Mercedes was having trouble
selling cars, it was announced that henceforth the sales division would be
running Mercedes rather than the engineering division.
A few years later it was announced that only the most expensive cars would be
sold in the
Well, thats pretty much what they do. I have a bare-bones GLK 250 blue tec
as a company car right now. It has very few options, not too many of the
modern gizmos. I really like it, despite not liking SUVs. I think it
actually rides better than the C class! And the 4 cylinder diesel is
Gary wrote:
sometimes i wonder if i really am the great communicator
One thing we know for sure about Gary.
He is the ChowdahKing - even if he did not attend the ChowdahQ.
mao
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On 9/17/14, Jaime wrote:
The B class is a simple and effective car, although only sold as an EV in
the US.
Yes, which is too bad. It has been pretty popular in Canada for the last few
years, from what I understand. Wacky rear suspension though!
D.
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The negative effect on Mercedes is pretty foolish... at least in suggesting
that Chrysler had their hand at engineering Mercedes.
But Chrysler received a large amount of Mercedes technology in many forms.
Interior controls, suspension, transmissions, even entire car platforms
(The crossfire was
That is one visually impressive car, although I've never sat in one.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
The negative effect on Mercedes is pretty foolish... at least in suggesting
that Chrysler had their hand at engineering Mercedes.
Thanks Jaime. That's kinda what I thought.
Rick
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I suspect there was considerable leakage of junk gizmo flashy crap
into Mercedes from Chrysler. The new cars are NOT like the old ones,
rather tinny, full of electronic toys of dubious utility and designed
in failure.
And they are UGLY and very hard to see out of.
Peter
I suspect that is the result of market research and actual customer
preferences. I don't think that this group represents the average new MB
buyer. We are indeed, a relatively odd lot . . . .
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
I suspect
Ha, good response.
As much as we'd like them to put 240D's back into production and sell them
for $18,000, I don't think its going to happen.
Jaime
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:25 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:
I suspect that is the result of market research and actual
yes, that is exactly what it is, don, and not a conspiracy of chrysler
gizmoization, probably engineered by obama and the illuminati
jaime once brought a benz engineer to my pool and he explained it to me
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:25 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I
and the amzing thing is that for all the talk of people wanting that here,
you'd hardly sell any if you did
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Ha, good response.
As much as we'd like them to put 240D's back into production and sell
Times change, cars change. If Mercedes would build a 240D in this day and age
it would become the laughing stock of auto manufacturers. However, something in
the spirit of a 240D might work. Simple, really well built and economical.
Volkswagen kind of does it with the Jetta diesel. Why can't
What Dimitri said!
On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:15 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Times change, cars change. If Mercedes would build a 240D in this day and age
it would become the laughing stock of auto manufacturers. However, something
in the spirit of a 240D might
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Times change, cars change. If Mercedes would build a 240D in this day and age
it would become the laughing stock of auto
i think i said something like that initially
sometimes i wonder if i really am the great communicator
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes
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What Dimitri said!
On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:15 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes
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: Re: [MBZ] Daimler
Times change, cars change. If Mercedes would build a 240D in this day and age it would become
the laughing stock of auto manufacturers. However, something in the spirit of a 240D might
work. Simple, really well built and economical. Volkswagen kind of does it with the Jetta
The chrysler cars became a whole bunch better than the garbage K cars of the
1980s. It was a boost to Jeep as well. Joining up/being bought by DBAG must
have swept the cruft from the machine
clay
On Sep 14, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
It seems most are of the
It seems most are of the opinion that when DBAG bought Chrysler, it had a
negative effect on MB autos. Do you think the reverse is true? Were Chrysler
products improved in the early 2000's because of there association with
Daimler?
Rick
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Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
It seems most are of the opinion that when DBAG bought Chrysler, it had a negative effect on MB autos. Do you think the reverse is true? Were Chrysler products improved in the early 2000's because of there association with Daimler?
I think the Magnum and
No not really
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It seems most are of the opinion that when DBAG bought Chrysler, it had a
negative effect on MB autos. Do you think the reverse is true? Were Chrysler
products improved
www.just-auto.com/nd.aspx?id=115896lk=dm
RLE
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Yesterday I received the following notification from DB Depot in Germany (I've
made a couple of minor corrections to their translation from German).
I wonder if the new policy affects our friendly retailers here in the United
States. Rusty, any comment? I notice that things are pepping up over
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- Original Message -
From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 3:09 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original parts to
non-authorized dealers
Yesterday I received
.
This is related to the problem of people buying keys to steal cars.
Peter
-Original Message-
From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca
Sent: Dec 7, 2010 2:09 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original parts to
non-authorized
I have been able to buy keys from Rusty... did have to send him scans of my DL
and registration though.
Allan
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 08:42 -0600, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
More to the point, it is no longer possible for my Indy to get lock
cylinders or keys. One must go to the
www.buyEUROparts.biz
www.buyASIANparts.biz
Tel/ 1-800-741-5252
Fax/ 770-454-9745
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Subject: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban
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partstonon-authorized dealers
Rusty, are you saying you can't get lock cylinders and keys for us from
your dealer contact any more
In Germany, this is not restricted to keys etc. It is ANY part: headlights,
trim pieces, whatever he gets from MB. Andreas has marked the NLA parts on the
dbdepot.de online catalogue.
Let's hope this is a temporary stupid thing and not some global scourge devised
by one of the idiot marketing
Franchise dealers in USA do considerable business providing parts for non dealer
mechanics. I can't imagine that ending here. (and I can't imagine owning a car
for which the local dealer is the only source of OE parts, especially when that
dealer is allowed to mark those parts 2-3x official
You mean for like a 140 and newer?
On 12/7/2010 10:11 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote:
I can for the non remote cars. I can't get the remote keys any
longer.
Rusty Cullens
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on a par with eastern Europe?
sad times...
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Subject: [MBZ] Daimler shift sparks union concerns
Daimler shift sparks union concerns
This week’s decision by Daimler to shift parts of the future
production of
its best selling Mercedes C-Class sedan to the US
LarryT wrote:
an article said [MB] workers in Alabama earn about €30 ($45)
an hour, which compares with about €50 in Germany.
Wow. Even if that includes benefits and payroll taxes, $90k a year just doesn't
seem reasonable. Makes the old GM look like a low cost employer.
Mitch.
But it looks like a deal compared to the $153k that German workers get ---
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LarryT wrote:
an article said [MB] workers in Alabama earn about €30 ($45)
an hour, which compares with about €50 in Germany.
Wow. Even if that
OK Don wrote:
But it looks like a deal compared to the $153k that German workers get ---
Does a German workyear have 2000 hours in it (including paid holidays)?
Mitch.
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But it looks like a deal compared to the $153k that German workers get
---
Does a German workyear have 2000 hours in it (including paid holidays)?
I can't say, but I understand they do have a lot of
, 2009 12:10 PM
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OK Don wrote:
But it looks like a deal compared to the $153k that German workers get
---
Does
Daimler shift sparks union concerns
This week’s decision by Daimler to shift parts of the future production of
its best selling Mercedes C-Class sedan to the US exposes the mismatch
between large domestic footprints and global sales of many German industrial
companies.
Daimler said earlier
Yesterday's WSJ had an article about this, the union members in
Deutscheland were not happy about this.
We went on a boat ride around Charleston last week, cruised past the
freight docks. There was a big RORO there loading beemers, 3 or 4
warehouses there full of cars. They build them in SC
Gerry, and Cohorts.
Daimler SP250 is the car that I most drooled over when I was
in the UK. The Lady next door had an A.C Cobra and an SP. I thought
she was too old to drive such cars, she may have been 40, not old
from my present point of view! I owned a Mini and wanted, lusted
? :)
Google: Daimler 250 V8, instead of V250.
http://www.daimler-v8.co.uk/history.htm
Tom Schuch
1975 300D
SE Conn USA
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Daimler
We had a Daimler SP250 at the garage I worked in during college - it
had a cracked dent in the drivers door, and a freeze induced crack in
the intake manifold. I didn't have the cash - another employee bought
it, fixed it up, and doubled his money in a month.
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:41 AM,
Saw a Daimler V250 in perfect condition at hardware store parking lot today
if anyones interested. Didn't get a chance to talk to owner. Custom tag
read NOTAJAG. It looked like a Jag from a distance. Didn't pull up
anything specific about it on Google.
Gerry
GERMANY: Daimler discusses sale of Chrysler stake
Daimler has confirmed that it is in talks with Cerberus to sell its 19.9%
stake in former partner Chrysler. In a short official statement the company
said:
'Daimler confirms that the company is in discussions with Cerberus Capital
Management
I am outraged! Outraged I tell you!
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OK Don wrote:
Do we care?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7027460.stm
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I think it should return to D-B, but they won't ask me. Daimler is a
british car. Ya, I know, the German no-name company, formerly known
as prince, er, Daimler Chrysler bought the rights to use Daimler, but
the company still should be D-B.
Then again maybe the no-name company should go
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7027460.stm
Don't think I've ever seen anyone with a mustache like Benz has. How did he
keep it out his beer stein? Wonder if anyone on the list could grow one
like that?
Gerry
Haven't you heard of a mustache cup? They were popular in the 1890s
or so, when mustaches of that sort were in style. I'm guessing the
krauts had mustache steins.
At 12:22 PM 10/4/2007, you wrote:
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Do we care?
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I forgot about mustache cups. I'd like to see one of us grow a Benz
mustache and post the picture.
Gerry
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Haven't you heard of a mustache cup? They were popular in the 1890s
or so, when mustaches of that sort were in style. I'm guessing the
I have one. Use it as often as I do not want too feel like straining
stuff through the baleen
clay
On 4 Oct 2007, at 12:48, Loren Faeth wrote:
Haven't you heard of a mustache cup? They were popular in the 1890s
or so, when mustaches of that sort were in style. I'm guessing the
krauts
Lets see, Cummings is a English corporation, that would be those small
islands off the coast of France, and the Cummings engines in the Dodge stuff
is made by frogs in France. Check out the plate on the side of the engine.
Most of the big castings used in the large engines are cast in Spain, loose
Cummins ran that diesel WAY b4 the sixties...like the
30's. It was the first car to finish without making
one pit stop...so says an MB history book I read.
Christtopher
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Lets see, Cummings is a English corporation, that
would be those small
If we are talking about the liberty, the last i knew, it was the italian
diesel, same as chrysler has been using in europe for minivans, cherokees
and the like for years.
At 05:31 PM 9/21/2005, you wrote:
The diesel in the Jeep is a Detriot 18:1 compression ratio american
made clatterbox.
BZZT!
Clessie Cummins was as American as Apple Pie, and the company he started is
in Indiana, as it has always been. Excerpt from
cummins.com: Headquartered in Columbus, Indiana, (USA) Cummins serves
customers in more than 160 countries and territories through its network of
550
rumor has it that Kevin wrote:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:58:46PM -0500, Luther Gulseth wrote:
HELL NO. The damn MB engines are made by Detroit. Cummins makes a MUCH
better product. MB makes a (well, this is questionable) kick ass car
engine, but that's what's made in the Mother
The diesel in the Jeep is a Detriot 18:1 compression ratio american
made clatterbox. Loud, requires a 6 speed auto tranny, and has a HUGE
turbo, long stroke direct injection.
They never learn, eh?
Peter
be, these are highend Liberties. I
think they paid something like $20k apiece.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:57:15 -0400
From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Royce Engler wrote:
It was my understanding that DC built the PT Cruiser as a delivery vehicle
(truck) in the European market, showed it at an auto show and the Americans
demanded that they sell it over here. They couldn't keep up with demand for
the first couple of yearsOTOH, it is just a
yea, I thought they were supposed to put a MB engine in it. Makes no
sense sincemb had plenty of diesel engines. In fact, I think its about
time to start putting MB truck engines in the rams.
Peter Frederick wrote:
The new Liberty diesel is, you guessed it, a Detroit 16:1 four banger
with
AH, that explains it, I was wondering because Consumer Reports talked
about how that
engine in real world conditions got 50% less MPG than EPA numbers. I
couldn't understand
if it was a CDI MB engine why the numbers could be so skewed/wrong/
deceitful.
Lets see
VM Motori, which is owned in
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