Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt

2008-11-30 Thread Loren Faeth
I love fedex. I sent a box of bread for lab testing from the Big Island to Honolulu. Simple eh? They do it all the time. After a week without hearing the results, I called the lab and asked about my results. Nothing, they never got the delivery! About 2 months later I got a call from

Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt

2008-11-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:55:56 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > how the heck could it have been damaged before it really even got > anywhere. Maybe the fedex guy ran over it. When we moved here from Austin, TX, we sent ourselves several boxes via FedEx. One of them was damag

Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt

2008-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
how the heck could it have been damaged before it really even got anywhere. Maybe the fedex guy ran over it. Robert Rentfro wrote: http://tinyurl.com/6yxn54 It says something about it being damaged. It looks like it languishing in TX. Bob R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92

Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt

2008-11-30 Thread Robert Rentfro
: Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt I figured it would have been there before t-day Robert Rentfro wrote: > That's exactly what I'm seeing. > > Nowif my PS pump would ever arrive > > Bob R > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt

2008-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
2008 10:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt The adjusting thingie inside the pump is a piece of plastic, probably long since disintegrated, which means you will have to revert to prying it tight, which is not easy to do as there are no good pla

Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt

2008-11-30 Thread Robert Rentfro
That's exactly what I'm seeing. Nowif my PS pump would ever arrive Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tightness

Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt

2008-11-30 Thread Rich Thomas
The adjusting thingie inside the pump is a piece of plastic, probably long since disintegrated, which means you will have to revert to prying it tight, which is not easy to do as there are no good places to pry from and to. I think I finally put a piece of wood somewhere and took a small pry b

Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt

2008-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt loosen the 3 mounting nuts/bolts, then tighten the adjusting bolt on the top. Robert Rentfro wrote: As I wait for my powe

Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt

2008-11-30 Thread Robert Rentfro
Sorry...'77 300D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:45 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:16:47 -0700 "Robe

Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt

2008-11-30 Thread Robert Rentfro
. Any idea on what size the missing bolt is? Bob R '77 300D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt

Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt

2008-11-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:16:47 -0700 "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I wait for my power steering pump to arrive, I noticed the belt is > wicked loose. The belt is squealing badly at low rpm. People stare..I > wave. The pump itself isn't loose but for as loose as the belt is the > p

Re: [MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt

2008-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
loosen the 3 mounting nuts/bolts, then tighten the adjusting bolt on the top. Robert Rentfro wrote: As I wait for my power steering pump to arrive, I noticed the belt is wicked loose. The belt is squealing badly at low rpm. People stare..I wave. The pump itself isn't loose but for as loose as t

[MBZ] Tightness on a Power Steering Belt

2008-11-30 Thread Robert Rentfro
As I wait for my power steering pump to arrive, I noticed the belt is wicked loose. The belt is squealing badly at low rpm. People stare..I wave. The pump itself isn't loose but for as loose as the belt is the pump must have moved some. How do I adjust the position of the pump to tighten the belt?

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-08 Thread Marshall Booth
Zoltan Finks wrote: Sure, I read plenty. But I also ask questions, as uncomfortable as it makes some people. How long have you had this memory problem? Have you seen a doctor? Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-08 Thread Zoltan Finks
Sure, I read plenty. But I also ask questions, as uncomfortable as it makes some people. Brian Marshall wrote: You HAVE read the owner's manual haven't you? -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-08 Thread Marshall Booth
David Brodbeck wrote: That's not a terrible situation because it tends to encourage understeer, which most people find controllable. When you can get yourself in trouble is when you have worse traction in back -- for example, two new tires in front and two relatively bald ones in the back,

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-08 Thread Marshall Booth
Zoltan Finks wrote: Ah. I get the picture. I was walking away from the computer when this thought hit me: If equal traction in the tires - frnt. vs. rear - is critical, then those with big fat tires in the rear and skinnier ones in the front must be really putting themselves at risk. A car CAN

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Zoltan Finks wrote: Ah. I get the picture. I was walking away from the computer when this thought hit me: If equal traction in the tires - frnt. vs. rear - is critical, then those with big fat tires in the rear and skinnier ones in the front must be really putting themselves at risk. That's

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-07 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 6, 2006, at 11:45 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: That said, I've driven any number of cars with mismatched tires, but believe me, a full set makes a big difference! It really is best to stick with all four the same make and similar age. peter There's nothing like 4 new tires tha

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-07 Thread Zoltan Finks
Ah. I get the picture. I was walking away from the computer when this thought hit me: If equal traction in the tires - frnt. vs. rear - is critical, then those with big fat tires in the rear and skinnier ones in the front must be really putting themselves at risk. Brian On 3/6/06, Peter Frederic

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Each tire type has different rubber, and hence different friction characteristics. These days, I don't think you could find a non-radial tire less than 25 years old, so that's not a problem (radial/bias belt tire mixes can be lethal), but the difference in adhesion to the road can be quite dra

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-07 Thread Zoltan Finks
Okay, I know Marshall feels adamant about not having different tires on the front than on the rear of the car. (I shutter to think what he'd say about having a different type of tire on the driver's than on the passerger's side.) But I see that others concur that a differing tire on front & back a

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-07 Thread redghost
It can be done, but do not try using patchwork tires on a high performance car. Gump was good for a few thousand miles on her odd shoes. The handling was immeasurably improved with new matched wheels all around. On Sunday, March 5, 2006, at 06:39 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-07 Thread redghost
Brian, I solve that issue by not getting in the driver seat of anything but Gump. the mental gymnastics of E300D over Gump sometimes makes me feel like I have three left feet On Saturday, March 4, 2006, at 10:59 PM, Brian Chase wrote: Allright, now it's getting late, I've walked the dogs,

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-06 Thread Curt Raymond
ats an older MB, the movie came out in '69. My 190D feels like its on rails... Totally different ride than a 123 car. Truth be told I find the 123 a bit more comfortable. -Curt Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:11:05 -0800 (PST) From: michael smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: R

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-06 Thread Jim Cathey
cause it to feel like it's diving -- a bad sway bar will affect both sides, not just one. What about a broken sway bar that catches when the break is pushed together? Wouldn't that be asymmetrical? I'd think you'd hear noises though. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-06 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 5, 2006, at 10:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanx...how to diagnose a bad shock? First look for oil on the rod or on the body of the shock. Bounce the car a few times and if it keeps bouncing some it needs them. If it feels really wishy-washy it may need shocks. Johnny B. I

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-06 Thread jjayj
thanx...how to diagnose a bad shock? -- Original message -- From: Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The suspension on the W126 is pretty much identical to that on the > W123. Check guide rods (if it groans on speed bumps or clunks going > into reverse they are bad)

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-06 Thread jjayj
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Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-06 Thread Marshall Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: peter, do you also have words to say over the 126? i was a bit distressed twice this last weekend on a great trip from spokane to port townsend, wa where my '86 300sdl was not handling as usual...it felt as if the right front was diving into hard turns...but the left

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-06 Thread jjayj
peter, do you also have words to say over the 126? i was a bit distressed twice this last weekend on a great trip from spokane to port townsend, wa where my '86 300sdl was not handling as usual...it felt as if the right front was diving into hard turns...but the left side did well...these turn

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-06 Thread Peter Frederick
Brian: Unless you are running downhill in the mountains with your foot floored, you are very unlikely to test the handling limits of a 240 D. Less body roll will overload the outside front tire and force it off the rim, at which point the car will proceed, completely out of control of the dr

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-06 Thread Zoltan Finks
Ah. very good. I like what I hear about the 123 in this message. I don't like that the consensus seems to be that my suspension is worn out. I am ready for this thing to stop acting like a money pit. So essentially, the inside corner of the car will rise as a warning to the driver (I know - sounds

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-05 Thread Marshall Booth
Brian Chase wrote: Allright, now it's getting late, I've walked the dogs, the wife is out of town, and I've had a few beers. So I have the courage to ask: I notice many listers speak of how tight and great the 124s handle. Can I just say that driving my 123 is like piloting a pontoon compared

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-05 Thread Jim Cathey
was surprisingly thin. I assumed - as I do for a lot of things about this auto - that is was designed so for a reason. Am I naive to place such faith in the legendary Mercedes engineering? No, but their criteria may not have been exactly the ones you wish (at the moment) they had been. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-05 Thread Peter Frederick
Roll oversteer means that the rear end will "steer" into the turn as the body leans over. What this does is limit the speed at which the car will corner as the back end starts to come around. This incidentally unloads the OUTSIDE tire (the one taking most of the load in this case) by reducing

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-05 Thread Zoltan Finks
Great information guys. Answered some of my questions. In particular, the unloading of the outside front tire. That sounds like a great idea, though I don't understand how it is achieved. And yes, I noticed the rear sway bar was surprisingly thin. I assumed - as I do for a lot of things about this

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-05 Thread Peter Frederick
The W123 (and W116) have more roll oversteer designed in to unload the outside front tire in heavy cornering. On the W114/115 chassis, you can unmount that tire due to excessive side force, usually causing a severe accident as the car becomes uncontrollable. Lighter rear sway bar, I think. G

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tightness >> the very loose steering bugs the crap out of me. > You most likely have other worn parts. Give it a full check-up and > fix it before cranking the adjustment on the steering gear. What he said! The steering shouldn

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-05 Thread Jim Cathey
the very loose steering bugs the crap out of me. You most likely have other worn parts. Give it a full check-up and fix it before cranking the adjustment on the steering gear. What he said! The steering shouldn't feel loose, and that nut is the very _last_ thing you should do. I've ne

Re: [MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-05 Thread michael smith
I had the same problem with my 78 280SE, Mercedes uses a zero offset steering geometry and when it is new it is fastastic...as most people do not change their fluids they do not wear well as it is alot of stress on the components...buy a rebuilt kit and a spare box and have it restored...then i

[MBZ] Tightness

2006-03-05 Thread Brian Chase
Allright, now it's getting late, I've walked the dogs, the wife is out of town, and I've had a few beers. So I have the courage to ask: I notice many listers speak of how tight and great the 124s handle. Can I just say that driving my 123 is like piloting a pontoon compared to driving my 84 Sa