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LarryT wrote:
I have some subsonic .22s also - unfortunately they're .22 Shorts so
accuracy beyond 10' is not very good.
Try
He goes on to dscribe the
splt being louder than the round
firing!
But the brick of Remington subsonics I bought don't
seem all that quiet. They are strong enough to cycle the action in my
Marlin 60 and my friend's 10/22, but from a few feet away I can't really
tell a lot of difference
expensive Eley target ammo...
-Curt
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:25:17 -0400
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At 02:50 PM 6/21/2008, Curt wrote:
I think he added a zero, after 100 yards .22LR performance drops
RAPIDLY. I forget the drop at 100 yards but its substantial.
About 8 for standard velocity IIRC.
At 300 yards you'd really be just lobbing bullets toward the
target in a huge arc.
If the warning is ignored, and the Colibri CB bullet doesn't leave the
barrel of the rifle, couldn't you just push it back, or out the front
(depending on the rifle) with a cleaning rod? Then the only risk is
remembering to verify that the barrel is clear before loading the next
round (?).
What
What are good, in-expensive, bolt action 22RF rifles to look
for? My
pump action Remington is nice for hunting, but the
chamber if not
readily accessible.
The days
when you could drop $29.88 at a Kmart for a .22 bolt Marlin are long gone.
This thing looks just like my Brother's $30 rifle
This looks a lot like my HR 410 shotgun!
That might make a really nice 22.
And this is more affordable:
http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Rifles/sportster.aspx
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At 02:50 PM 6/21/2008, Curt wrote:
I think he added a zero, after 100 yards .22LR performance drops
RAPIDLY. I
Remington subsonics are garbage...
A google search shows they run very close to the speed of sound, 1000fps or
more...
The slower, the quieter.
-Curt
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:25:55 -0400 (EDT)
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If the warning is ignored, and the Colibri CB bullet doesn't leave the
barrel of the rifle, couldn't you
that
interested in cleaning up the leftovers from my yard, though.
BillR
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Yeah
you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g
Bill, I have a few recipes somewhere, even very old ones from a book
from the 1800s. For those little critters you can use one of those 1000
or 1200fps air rifles. The little rats don't make any noise if you don't
hit them right so it's a lot easier to get another
Single shot .22 rifle shooting shorts does not make much noise either. My
younger son picks off squirrels out at
the lake because my mother does not want them in the attic etc. It is too
close in to town and we are not legally
permitted to discharge firearms so we keep it pretty quiet.
I
Rick Knoble wrote:
I use CB caps. They are a sub-sonic round so about all you hear is the hammer
hitting the cartridge.
Ever try to shoot a group at 25 or 50 yards with those?
I haven't messed with them since the 1970's, but IIRC accuracy wasn't very good.
I've had decent accuracy with
CBs are for short range. Should be ok for 25 yd or so. I used them
to shoot pests in the barn. They won't put holes through
things. Anything I ever shot at with a CB was dead. BB caps are a
different story.
Are you talking about BB caps? they have a round .22 inch round
ball. Not so
Ever try to shoot a group at 25 or 50 yards with those?
I haven't messed with them since the 1970's, but IIRC accuracy wasn't very
good.
I've had decent accuracy with Remington and CCI subsonics, but there's little
difference in sound
from full power ammo, even with my 26 target rifle.
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Single shot .22 rifle shooting shorts
LarryT wrote:
I have some subsonic .22s also - unfortunately they're .22 Shorts so
accuracy beyond 10' is not very good.
Try these:
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Rick Knoble wrote:
I use CB caps. They are a sub-sonic round so about all you hear is the hammer
hitting
MG wrote:
As for getting the rabbits, the only really quiet way in a neighborhood is
to use live traps and then tell people that you are releasing them in
the country.
A professionally tuned non-magnum airgun wouldn't be bad, especially if you
can shoot from indoors. Thock = dead rabbit. Just
if necessary.
BillR
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MG wrote:
As for getting the rabbits, the only
Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just pay the $10 per/g for the diesel?
Ed
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2008/6/18 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
MG wrote:
As for getting the rabbits, the only really quiet way in a neighborhood
is
to use live traps and then tell people that you are releasing them in
the country.
: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g
Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just pay the $10 per/g for the diesel?
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Bill R wrote:
Or stay home more to have time to trap rabbits and those bushy tailed attic
destroying rodents with the good PR firm.
Tree rats are OK, as long as they don't try to move into your house.
Then it's time for poison and/or rat traps in the attic.
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Bill R wrote:
Or stay home more to have time to trap rabbits and those bushy
Bill R wrote:
Good recipes for squirrel? A few hundred $$ later I have had it with those
pests.
Wooden Victor rat traps 2/$1. Either nail them to the floor or chain them up
solidly.
You don't want a sq with a trap on his foot falling down a wall cavity.
- assuming
the wire mesh holds and a full assault down the chimney is avoided.
BillR
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Bill R wrote:
Academic now as we finally got them out - assuming
the wire mesh holds and a full assault down the chimney is avoided.
Keep a fire ready to light in the fireplace. Light it up when you hear intruders
approaching. Did I say rat traps were 2/$1? That's ancient history, mouse traps
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Bill R wrote:
Academic now as we finally got them out - assuming
the wire mesh holds and a full assault down the chimney is avoided.
Keep a fire ready to light
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Or stay home more to have time to trap rabbits and those bushy tailed
attic
destroying rodents
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Or stay home more to have time to trap rabbits and those bushy tailed
attic
destroying
This sounds really interesting - can you send links or more info? My
current (cheap) air rifle is LOUD.
.
A professionally tuned non-magnum airgun wouldn't be bad, especially if you
can shoot from indoors. Thock = dead rabbit. Just don't wound it and make
it scream. If you want to mess with
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This sounds really interesting - can you send links or more info? My
Yeah when I picked up my Hyundai in Long Beach on Monday it was $7.90 if I
don't fill it myself. The stations around the airport were like $4.30 IIRC.
-Curt
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Single shot .22 rifle shooting shorts does not make much noise either. My
younger son picks off
Yeah thought of that but then you have to go into the neighbors garden
to get the evidence without being seen and if that works all it takes is
for someone to see that poor little bunny flopping around from a poor
shot, I'm not that good anymore, and the jig is up.
Hey Bill doesn't that little
Yeah, but isn't this all about where you get the food that you can't buy
because you have to pay that $10/gal?
Manfred
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:55:12 -0400
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Wouldn't it be a lot easier to just pay the $10 per/g for the diesel?
Ed
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Bill, I have a few recipes somewhere, even very old ones from a book
from the 1800s. For those little critters you can use one of those 1000
or 1200fps air rifles. The little rats don't make any noise if you don't
hit them right so it's a lot easier to get another shot it.
Manfred
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That's what ducks are for - great bug eaters. Of course, they also
like to eat most of the same veggies you do, and will think of grapes
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I'd stay home even more, weekly date with my Darling Wife would not be
weekly; start
I'd start keeping rabbits for meat. You can easily keep rabbits in a
small yard and grow most of their food.
They are also generally very quiet. (Unlike birds.) They only
scream if something's attacking them.
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That's $s and only every other week or 2. Tennis is cheap, balls can be
purchased for $1/can and used for 3-4 hours before they don't play the same.
Luther
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What about golf?
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By my reckoning, we're up to about $ 8.7/g here in the UK, so not long
to go .
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Didn't you see the jokers in Deov or Cornwall selling at 1.99 pounds per litre?
They dropped it back to 1.36 now.
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Didn't you see the jokers in Deov or Cornwall selling at 1.99 pounds per
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They dropped it back to 1.36 now.
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Bill, all you have to do is get a chicken and it will eat the bugs. As
for getting the rabbits, the only really quiet way in a neighborhood is
to use live traps and then tell people that you are releasing them in
the country.
Manfred
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Bill, all you have to do is get a chicken and it will eat the bugs. As
for getting the rabbits, the only really quiet way in a neighborhood
Lets just say fuel cost $10/g... what changes in your lifestyle/driving
habits would you make?
I have a 2.5 mile one-way commute... so I'm pretty lucky in that regard.
I currently drive home to eat lunch, and I would stop doing that on a
daily basis. Also, in our mild southern winter I
bike to work (6 blocks), kids walk to school (private, no bus), 5 blocks, walk
to shop, 3 blocks. Turn my south yard into an algae farm and make BioD out of
the oil. Grow lots of veggies, which will cost a fortune because of trucking.
CM
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bike to work (6 blocks), kids walk to school (private, no bus), 5 blocks,
walk to shop, 3 blocks. Turn my south yard into an algae farm and make BioD
out of the oil. Grow lots of veggies, which will cost a fortune because of
trucking
I probably wouldn't change anything, I'd just complain about it more.
Ed
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2008/6/16 John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Lets just say fuel cost $10/g... what changes in your lifestyle/driving
habits would you make?
I have a 2.5 mile one-way commute... so I'm pretty lucky in that regard.
I
E M wrote:
I probably wouldn't change anything, I'd just complain about it more.
Now there is an honest answer if I ever heard one!
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Lets just say fuel cost $10/g... what changes in your
R A Bennell wrote:
Most of us are old enough to remember paying a fraction of what we
currently pay for fuel.
In the USA, if you were driving two years ago, you can remember paying half
of current prices, which are running around $4 per us gallon for regular and
$$.75-5.00 for #2.
Fire all the politicians and hire some who might actually do something
useful about it. Or go to DC with tar and feathers and rails and carry
them out of town with a new suit. But getting there would be
problematic as our entire economy would be destroyed by then.
--R
John Robbins wrote:
Fire up the old diesel tractor, grow me some rapeseed, press it into
canola oil and go on a road trip in my big ole comfy crewcab with the
kids.Or maybe go do some wheelin' in my OM615 powered tube buggy.
Mike
Lets just say fuel cost $10/g... what changes in your lifestyle/driving
habits
(the following is already my plan even if fuel is $10/gallon)
Live on 15-20 acres with a completely off-grid house. Wind, solar,
geo-thermal, and biodiesel/generator will provide my energy needs. I will grow
most of my own food, both fruit/vegetable and beef/pork/chicken/lamb.
Luther
On Mon,
All that labour will wear you out. Best collect a few females and have your own
commune.
Randy
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(the following is already my plan even if fuel is $10/gallon)
Live on 15-20 acres with a completely off-grid house. Wind, solar,
geo-thermal, and biodiesel/generator will
provide my
commune.
Randy
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(the following is already my plan even if fuel is $10
Bunch of sisters. Then you only have one mother-in-law.
Randy
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All
You must be a whole lot younger than me. Your time will come too.
Randy
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(the following is already my plan even if fuel is $10/gallon)
Live on 15-20 acres with a completely off-grid house. Wind, solar,
geo-thermal, and biodiesel/generator will provide my energy needs. I will
grow
What about golf?
Bob R
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I'd rather collect one female and make
, June 16, 2008 5:40 PM
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You must be a whole lot younger than me. Your time will come too.
Randy
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Yet!
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd rather collect one female and make it a family affair. As far as the
wearing me out thing, I'm an ex-farmhand that is running my own roofing/home
repair business during my days off from my regular 36/48hr a week night
Bill, not to worry, you won't have to get used to rabbit. It tastes just
like chicken. The good thing is that with a good sized garden you can
even raise domesticated rabbit which is even better, as well as chicken
for the eggs as well as the meat.
We do that now, except for the rabbit part.
John R. wrote: Lets just say fuel cost$10/g... what changes in your
lifestyle/driving habits would you make?
My wife and I would share a car. I would drive her to work and pick her up
afterwards. We would walk to the little grocery store more often than driving
to the big one.
I would
engineer a rabbit to eat bugs...
BillR
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Bill, not to worry, you won't have to get
That's what ducks are for - great bug eaters. Of course, they also
like to eat most of the same veggies you do, and will think of grapes
as dessert ---
Maybe we could
engineer a rabbit to eat bugs...
BillR
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