Philip,
As you said, I can only relate my personal experience with ethanol. And that
is, my 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 with the 5.9 liter magnum V8 does not like ethanol
gas. It idles rougher and it gets about 2 mpg less. Again, this is my
experience with a big engine. When I can find Marathon out in
I'm out of the country now, but will try to remember to look it up next
week.
On Friday, April 18, 2014, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
Don,
Thanks for the tip about the testing kit. Where do you find them?
Thanks,
Grant..
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:47 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com
OK Don wrote:
I'm out of the country now, but will try to remember to look it up next
week.
Anybody have it cheaper than $10.75 + $5 shipping per half ounce?
http://www.fuel-testers.com/quikcheck.html
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arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
Here's a better explanation of the test suggested
to replace.
-Curt
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 12:34:27 + (UTC)
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Philip,
As you said, I can only relate
A Shell station recently built nearby has one pump off to the side which is
labeled ethanol free, slightly higher price. Lots of folks filling up
boats, gas cans, etc use it.
I suspect it is pulling from the underground tank that all the premium
pumps pull from, wouldn't make sense to have a
them.
Actually this is not the only reason we need a new vet but its a pretty
good indicator.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:45:01 -0600
From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol
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Make a mark on a (graduated) test tube about 2 inches from the bottom
and fill it with the gasoline to be tested. Top the test tube with
water, shake it and allow to stand. If the gasoline contains ethanol,
the level of the solution will rise, as ethanol is absorbed by water.
This would prove
Kevin Allen Kraly wrote:
How do you make sure that the gasoline that you're buying is not contaminated
with ethanol? The Toyota Sienna Minivan got a fillip of premium today. I
read some time ago on this list that premium gas isn't blended. I don't want
any gas containing ethanol
in the
How much ethanol is in diesel fuel
You bozos need to start a gasoline affinity group.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Kevin Allen Kraly wrote:
How do you make sure that the gasoline that you're buying is not
contaminated with ethanol? The Toyota
on the line for a good humane kill and I hate having to pump 10 times. A
good break barrel would go more like 1100fps and would be a much more sure
thing.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 00:49:38 -0400
From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ULSD
On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 07:58:31 -0400 arche...@embarqmail.com
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
Make a mark on a (graduated) test tube about 2 inches from the bottom
and fill it with the gasoline to be tested. Top the test tube with
water, shake it and allow to stand. If the gasoline contains
go more like 1100fps and would be
a much more sure thing.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 00:49:38 -0400
From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol
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On 4/18/2014 11:33 AM, Craig wrote:
On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 07:58:31 -0400 arche...@embarqmail.com
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
Make a mark on a (graduated) test tube about 2 inches from the bottom
and fill it with the gasoline to be tested. Top the test tube with
water, shake it and allow to
Here's a better explanation of the test suggested previously which is
simply based on the affinity of alcohol for water; no complex chemistry
involved.
HOW TO TEST FUEL FOR ETHANOL
*To determine if ethanol is in the gas: *
* On a test tube or olive bottle six or seven inches long, make a
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I've heard that squirrels are very territorial. Invaders (I.e. dropped
off) squirrels are driven away.
Max Dillon
I bought a testing kit that is an alcohol soluble dye. Put a drop in a
sample of the gas, agitate, and see whether the sample has changed color
and whether the drop is still the same size. I test the fuel perhaps every
other month that goes into the Cessna from the usual station, and before
Don,
Thanks for the tip about the testing kit. Where do you find them?
Thanks,
Grant..
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:47 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
I bought a testing kit that is an alcohol soluble dye. Put a drop in a
sample of the gas, agitate, and see whether the sample has changed
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
Here's a better explanation of the test suggested previously
which is simply based on the affinity of alcohol for water; no
complex chemistry involved.
Thanks! This one makes sense.
Therefore, any deviation in the water line indicates the presence
of
I'd say the (Bosch type M) IP o-rings are also a wear item. You can get them
from Bosch for less than they cost from MBUSA. Unfortunately, they are the same
rubber as the originals. Ditto for the fuel line o-rings on the 606's
On ULSD, they seem to last only 40-50kmi. I found some nitrile
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:11 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:
On ULSD, they seem to last only 40-50kmi. I found some nitrile ones
somewhere, will try them next change...
I'm relatively new to dieseling. Before all the stations went to ULSD, did
everyone go tripping on LSD?
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:18:29 -0400 Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote:
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:11 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net
wrote:
On ULSD, they seem to last only 40-50kmi. I found some nitrile ones
somewhere, will try them next change...
I'm relatively new to dieseling.
Craig wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:18:29 -0400 Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote:
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:11 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net
wrote:
On ULSD, they seem to last only 40-50kmi. I found some nitrile ones
somewhere, will try them next change...
I'm relatively new to
I think ethanol caused problems with several of my small 2-cycle machines.
The gas cap on my chain saw swelled to the point it took a tool to remove or
install it. I since got a replacement (loser fit-revised design) which
solved that problem. The diaphragms in 2-cycle carburetors seem to get
In my considered opinion, ethanol addition to gasoline was a truly bad
choice driven by not well informed politicians, for the wrong financial
reasons. [Sorry to raise politics in this, but without it, this would have
never impacted cars]
Ethanol is, simply put, poorly made whiskey. It takes more
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:47:09 -0700 G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
Apparently some states are now taking action to force removal of ethanol
from fuel.. perhaps there will be resolution.
Any ideas which ones?
Craig
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, we'll see in a month
how it worked out.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:08:23 -0400
From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol
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-Curt
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:47:09 -0700
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol
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In my
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
We had Buster at the vet last week and she asked me to donate money to
save hurt squirrels. I laughed. We need a new vet...
Yup. Our vet saves eagles and bears displaced by forest fires.
Craig
OK offers both pure and contaminated gasoline. The contaminated costs about
$0.15/gallon less.
I've had to replace both carbs on my two small engines that
thoughtlessly got the crap left in them over the winter. The Cessna gets
only pure gasoline. The Ford is supposed to run on either, but has
If we had either of those around I'm sure she'd save them.
Actually this is not the only reason we need a new vet but its a pretty good
indicator.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:45:01 -0600
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On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com
this is not the only reason we need a new vet but its a pretty
good indicator.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:45:01 -0600
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How do you make sure that the gasoline that you're buying is not contaminated
with ethanol? The Toyota Sienna Minivan got a fillip of premium today. I
read some time ago on this list that premium gas isn't blended. I don't want
any gas containing ethanol
in the van since it doesn't get
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On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
We had Buster at the vet last
Unless the shop explicitly says it is ethanol free, I would not believe premium
is missing corn squeezin's. There are a few stations that sell only corn free
fuel up near me. Maybe on your side of the Columbia, there is some
clay
On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Kevin Allen Kraly wrote:
How do
The key code words you want to look for on the pump is oxygenated fuel ..
which when posted means ethanol added in nearly every state.
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Kevin Allen Kraly
kevinpadd...@gmail.comwrote:
How do you make sure that the gasoline that you're buying is not
contaminated
Return lines are a wear item, they don't last forever. I had to replace them on
my cars before ULSD came out and I haven't seen any rise in the incidence of
them needing to be replaced since.
I think the change to ULSD was much ado about nothing, I didn't notice any
change in how my car ran or
Return lines are a wear item, they don't last forever. I had to replace them on
my cars before ULSD came out and I haven't seen any rise in the incidence of
them needing to be replaced since.
I think the change to ULSD was much ado about nothing, I didn't notice any
change in how my car ran
Real actual data? Probably never, who would pay for it?
Anecdotally I've got probably 100,000 miles on ULSD with no noticeable effects.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:43:29 -0400
From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] ULSD
Found this which doesn't really address mechanical longevity:
5. *Will my old diesel engines run on ultra-low sulfur diesel?*
Older vehicles and equipment will run on ultra-low sulfur diesel and
will experience a small
Actually, yes. When ULSD was first mandated, exhaustive testing was done
on semi truck engines of early design to ensure it would not damage them.
You may know that the largest use of diesel fuel is by trucking industry..
Initial runs of ULSD found that it did not have enough lubricity to
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Actually, yes. When ULSD was first mandated, exhaustive testing was done
on semi truck engines of early design to ensure it would not damage them.
You may know that the largest use of diesel fuel is by trucking industry..
Initial runs of ULSD found that it did
I add Lucas fuel treatment to my diesel now. Not sure how much it
helps, but can't see how it hurts. Supposedly lubricates injection
system.
http://www.lucasoil.com/products/display_products.sd?catid=2iid=26
G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com writes:
Actually, yes. When ULSD was first mandated,
because of this goofy mix (forced by successful lobbying, mostly of the
US
Trucking industry,) some manufacturers of the new Clean Diesel technology
already in use in Europe and elsewhere are loathe to bring their offerings
to
the US until the risk of putting the 'wrong' fuel in the tank
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