Re: [MBZ] OT A Reminder

2013-06-07 Thread clay
Tell that to Verizon and NSA. Criminal and unconstitutional I think clay On Jun 6, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-07 Thread clay
I may have won this battle. The war continues. Got the E300 headed to the shop on the 17th. Found a PnP 95 in green with the bumper and fender, so all it will need is respray. Should be able to pull it in under $2k. Then SWMBA will demand that the car be sold so that a new bucket of

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-07 Thread clay
I do think the CDI is more reliable than the rest of the w210 line. Too many questions about quality on the earlier models. Of course, SWMBA reads Consumer Report and tells me what rolling turds the benz are. Even though she drove that E300 for 8 years and down graded to a korean sedan.

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-07 Thread clay
Sadly she is practical and thrifty. For her upcoming birthday all she wants is the house to be clean. WTF!?! Cash is something to be hoarded in her mind. I wait patiently until her new car falls apart in a year or so. Then again, she is going to sell that and move to Alaska, where she

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-07 Thread Chris James
That's great to hear!!! I had thought the damage may have been to severe to fix. Hopefully things will turn out OK you'll be able to keep it! On 6/7/2013 2:34 AM, clay wrote: I may have won this battle. The war continues. Got the E300 headed to the shop on the 17th. Found a PnP 95 in

Re: [MBZ] Looking for a wagon....

2013-06-07 Thread Max
Oh, I misread, you want 10k or so? Hard to justify with out the original drive train. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Too low, ignore the bottom feeders found here, ask 8 and maybe come down.

Re: [MBZ] OT Heirloom plants - was:Chipper/Shreaders

2013-06-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
These were mostly new varieties I hadn't tried before, On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: At least half my tomato seed packets refused to germinate this year. They were not all from the same company, either.

Re: [MBZ] Looking for a wagon....

2013-06-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Max wrote: Oh, I misread, you want 10k or so? Hard to justify with out the original drive train. Who checks engine numbers anyway? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Sears service?

2013-06-07 Thread Dan Penoff
And they have the majik drawers, I.e., the little pull out drawers with all the strange and unique hardware. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 6, 2013, at 10:14 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Ditto on local Ace hardware. Prices are a little higher, but there actually is service! --

Re: [MBZ] Looking for a wagon....

2013-06-07 Thread Dan Penoff
eBay. Crazy prices there. Push the WVO aspect. Dan who just got charged $47 for selling $365 worth of stuff on eBay last month Sent from my iPad On Jun 7, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Oh, I misread, you want 10k or so? Hard to justify with out the original drive

Re: [MBZ] OT A Reminder

2013-06-07 Thread Dan Penoff
I don't understand all the fuss. This was well known 5-6 years ago, when the guy from ATT came forward and revealed the splitters that the NSA had installed on ATT's backbones. I am waiting to see how this pans out with the service providers, like Facebook, Google and Apple. Were they being

Re: [MBZ] SVO and IP issues was RE: 1984 300D - won't start when hot.

2013-06-07 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jun 6, 2013, at 9:00 PM, Michael Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: I enjoy collecting and using WVO in my Mercedes. And how do you get the oil that you use? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

[MBZ] OT - Cisco Certification

2013-06-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Anyone here have a Cisco certification - CCNA, CCNP, etc.? If so, would you drop me a line off list? Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Put your Merc on blocks

2013-06-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Andrea was a good visitor, came for a couple of hours, didn't cause any problems, and left. Hardly worth noticing, but the weathergasms continue. --R On 6/6/13 10:04 PM, Max wrote: Our rain has ended. I couldn't work up the excitement to test our generator, most I could do was pull the

Re: [MBZ] SVO and IP issues was RE: 1984 300D - won't start when hot.

2013-06-07 Thread Smith, Todd
I certainly thought that the link was very interesting and hopefully the graph presented is accurate. I know that Frybrid is well respected and I assume until proven otherwise that they are honest. The graph that I saw from a soybean farmer seemed to show that at 180 deg F that the oil that

Re: [MBZ] Put your Merc on blocks

2013-06-07 Thread Max
A little wind at our place. May test the generator anyway this weekend, and change the oil, it's been a couple years since the last test. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Andrea was a good visitor, came

Re: [MBZ] OT A Reminder

2013-06-07 Thread Max
I think in light of the Democrats use of the IRS to target conservatives, this level of access by any federal agency is now pretty alarming. Seems all that is needed is for a political appointee to declare that a group is a domestic terrorist threat and the courts rubber stamp and then DHS is

Re: [MBZ] OT A Reminder

2013-06-07 Thread Jon Agne
and Republicans.(or anyone, for that matter) On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Max wrote: I think in light of the Democrats use of the IRS to target conservatives, this level of access by any federal agency is now pretty alarming. ___

Re: [MBZ] OT A Reminder

2013-06-07 Thread Max
Aye! -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: and Republicans.(or anyone, for that matter) On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Max wrote: I think in light of the Democrats use of the IRS to target conservatives, this level of

Re: [MBZ] OT A Reminder

2013-06-07 Thread Rich Thomas
That could never happen, we have elected and appointed officials looking out for us, and plus it would be for our own good, to keep us safe. --R On 6/7/13 10:46 AM, Max wrote: Seems all that is needed is for a political appointee to declare that a group is a domestic terrorist threat and

Re: [MBZ] 44 years OT

2013-06-07 Thread Randy Bennell
I am 61. No real plans to retire so long as I stay fairly healthy. Randy On 06/06/2013 4:19 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: That would mean you are probably close to retirement age. Do you plan to retire or keep working? Anyway, congratulations on a long and successful marriage. Gerry From: Randy

Re: [MBZ] A Sad End

2013-06-07 Thread Randy Bennell
At least it is an MB engine and he is using MB wheels. Could be a whole lot worse. How about a nice big block Chevy with a blower out the hood and some nice big rims with skinny tires? Randy On 06/06/2013 7:26 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Aw geez..purists. It's his and maybe it's not

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-07 Thread Randy Bennell
Well at the risk of opening a can of worms, I can tell you that a friend recently acquired a 2000 Lexus LS400 and really loves it. They had an E430 4matic that his wife drove. He liked it but she did not - thought it too big. He thinks he likes this one a lot more - at least in party because

Re: [MBZ] Sears service?

2013-06-07 Thread Randy Bennell
Lowe's and Menard's do pretty well on that sort of thing too. I am amazed at what there is in those cabinets. I need to find some small screws for the gauges on the oxy acet (how does one spell that other gas?) setup. There are two little brass screws holding the housing to the stem on each and

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-07 Thread Randy Bennell
On 07/06/2013 1:42 AM, clay wrote: Sadly she is practical and thrifty. For her upcoming birthday all she wants is the house to be clean. WTF!?! Cash is something to be hoarded in her mind. I wait patiently until her new car falls apart in a year or so. Then again, she is going to sell

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-07 Thread Dan Penoff
My brother got a one owner driven by an old lady to church Lexus LS300 or 400 a year or so ago. I rode in it last time I was there. Very MB-like in that the ride and car were very solid, controls were well thought out, etc. He has had very little trouble or work on it. Says its been a great

Re: [MBZ] OT A Reminder

2013-06-07 Thread Craig
On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 11:24:57 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: That could never happen, we have elected and appointed officials looking out for us, and plus it would be for our own good, to keep us safe. They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little

Re: [MBZ] 44 years OT

2013-06-07 Thread WILTON
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 44 years OT I am 61. No real plans to retire so long as I stay fairly healthy. Randy On

Re: [MBZ] Sears service?

2013-06-07 Thread WILTON
Acetylene? Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sears service? Lowe's and Menard's do pretty well on that sort of thing too. I am amazed at what

Re: [MBZ] Sears service?

2013-06-07 Thread Randy Bennell
On 07/06/2013 11:15 AM, WILTON wrote: Acetylene? Wilton - Very good. An ATTABOY for you too! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Sears service?

2013-06-07 Thread Craig
On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 10:55:17 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Lowe's and Menard's do pretty well on that sort of thing too. I am amazed at what there is in those cabinets. I need to find some small screws for the gauges on the oxy acet (how does one spell that other gas?)

Re: [MBZ] Sears service?

2013-06-07 Thread Randy Bennell
On 07/06/2013 11:28 AM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 10:55:17 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Lowe's and Menard's do pretty well on that sort of thing too. I am amazed at what there is in those cabinets. I need to find some small screws for the gauges on the oxy acet (how

Re: [MBZ] 44 years OT

2013-06-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jun 7, 2013 8:38 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I am 61. No real plans to retire so long as I stay fairly healthy. Does anyone really retire at 65 anymore? It made sense when the average lifespan was 70-75 or so, but these days depending on your genes and lifestyle you could

Re: [MBZ] Sears service?

2013-06-07 Thread Craig
On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 11:34:26 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Need to get them filled so we could use them. You might need to have them pressure tested before a vendor will fill them. I think I'm in that situation. I would like to pick up some more parts as well. The only thing

Re: [MBZ] OT A Reminder

2013-06-07 Thread G Mann
The tree of liberty need be watered from time to time with the blood of despots and free men. Patrick Henry On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:30 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Tell that to Verizon and NSA. Criminal and unconstitutional I think clay On Jun 6, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Rich Thomas

Re: [MBZ] SVO and IP issues was 1984 300D - won't start when hot.

2013-06-07 Thread Mike Esh
I use three small suppliers. one golf course and two restaurants. I average between 20 and 30 gallons a week. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Jun 07, 2013, at 08:20 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Sears service?

2013-06-07 Thread Craig
On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:28:36 -0600 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I forgot about brazing: Acetylene -- see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetylene Welding Approximately 20 percent of acetylene is consumed for oxyacetylene gas welding and cutting due to the high temperature of the flame;

Re: [MBZ] OT - Conceal Carry

2013-06-07 Thread Benz Hogs
What stops you from composting them together? Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (166,xxx mi) On 6/5/2013 1:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Does that include the freedom to compost cat litter along with vegetal table scraps, leaves, shredded paper, grass clippings and other

Re: [MBZ] A Sad End

2013-06-07 Thread Michael Canfield
Same was said about my friend and neighbor when he bought an all original 33 Chevy coupe to build a street rod. Now he drives a gorgeous coupe with modern suspension and drivetrain worth around $50k. Mike On Jun 6, 2013 10:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: You're right Dan...

Re: [MBZ] Put your Merc on blocks

2013-06-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I had 2 in my back yard rain gauge (NW D.C.) by 7 AM today, with another 2 expected. This is NOT a trivial amount. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: A little wind at our place. May test the generator anyway this weekend, and change the oil, it's been a

Re: [MBZ] Sears service?

2013-06-07 Thread Randy Bennell
I don't think they will fill them. I am guessing that they will just swap me for a different set, but I have not yet checked. That is what they do with the tank for the MIG welder. We have an AC stick welder as well as the MIG and now gas. The one issue I have is a lack of power in my garage.

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
My son's Lexus isf is a very scary but totally awesome ride. http://www.edmunds.com/lexus/is-f/2012/?mktcat=lexus-is-f-speckw=lexus+isf+specsmktid=ga48393484gclid=CLG0x9rI0rcCFWhp7AodqiEAnA On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My brother got a one owner driven by

Re: [MBZ] OT - Conceal Carry

2013-06-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Yes, all are mingled, layered and occasionally mixed together. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: What stops you from composting them together? Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (166,xxx mi) On 6/5/2013 1:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Re: [MBZ] A Sad End

2013-06-07 Thread Dieselhead
At least it is an MB engine and he is using MB wheels. Could be a whole lot worse. How about a nice big block Chevy with a blower out the hood and some nice big rims with skinny tires? Randy True, but 16 wheels on a car shipped with 13 is ridiculous.

Re: [MBZ] A Sad End

2013-06-07 Thread WILTON
Poor fella can't figure out what to do 'cause his rims are too wide/offset. 'Don't think that's that's not quite right. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 2:20 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] OT A Reminder

2013-06-07 Thread Fmiser
G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: The tree of liberty need be watered from time to time with the blood of despots and free men. Patrick Henry Patrick Henry had some good quotes - but I think that one is from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to Colonel William Smith November 13, 1787.

Re: [MBZ] A Sad End

2013-06-07 Thread Randy Bennell
On 07/06/2013 1:20 PM, Dieselhead wrote: At least it is an MB engine and he is using MB wheels. Could be a whole lot worse. How about a nice big block Chevy with a blower out the hood and some nice big rims with skinny tires? Randy True, but 16 wheels on a car shipped with 13 is

Re: [MBZ] A Sad End

2013-06-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Randy, your car looks way better with hubcaps than bundts. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 07/06/2013 1:20 PM, Dieselhead wrote: At least it is an MB engine and he is using MB wheels. Could be a whole lot worse. How about a nice big block Chevy

Re: [MBZ] A Sad End

2013-06-07 Thread WILTON
Yep. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] A Sad End Randy, your car looks way better with hubcaps than bundts. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 3:37

Re: [MBZ] A Sad End

2013-06-07 Thread Randy Bennell
Ooooh! Just wait til I get my 22's. Randy On 07/06/2013 2:59 PM, WILTON wrote: Yep. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] A Sad End

Re: [MBZ] A Sad End

2013-06-07 Thread WILTON
Uhmm-hmm. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] A Sad End Ooooh! Just wait til I get my 22's. Randy On 07/06/2013 2:59 PM, WILTON wrote: Yep.

Re: [MBZ] A Sad End

2013-06-07 Thread Dieselhead
Yes, people will pay that for frods and shoveys, but this 110 200 will be worth $300 when he is done, because only a junkyard will buy it. Same was said about my friend and neighbor when he bought an all original 33 Chevy coupe to build a street rod. Now he drives a gorgeous coupe with

Re: [MBZ] Put your Merc on blocks

2013-06-07 Thread Dieselhead
I had 2 in my back yard rain gauge (NW D.C.) by 7 AM today, with another 2 expected. This is NOT a trivial amount. It would have been way more fun if that had been snow. About 48 of snow in DC in june would have protected us all (from congressional mischief) for about a week.

[MBZ] OT - Sondy tale

2013-06-07 Thread WILTON
How 'bout anther Sondy tale? SPEAKING DANISH By Wilton Strickland For the first few days I was at Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland in February, 1978, occasionally, whenever I would ask a Danish contractor engineer or workman a question about the progress of a particular project or work, he

Re: [MBZ] SVO and IP issues was 1984 300D - won't start when hot.

2013-06-07 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: I use three small suppliers. one golf course and two restaurants. I average between 20 and 30 gallons a week. How did you convince them to give/sell you their oil? Around here Mahoney http://mahoneyenvironmental.com/ seems

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-07 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My brother got a one owner driven by an old lady to church Lexus LS300 or 400 a year or so ago. I rode in it last time I was there. Very MB-like in that the ride and car were very solid, controls were well thought out, etc.

Re: [MBZ] A Sad End

2013-06-07 Thread Craig
On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 15:26:20 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Ooooh! Just wait til I get my 22's. You mean Long Rifle rimfires? :-) Randy, your car looks way better with hubcaps than bundts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

[MBZ] My experience -- a datum point

2013-06-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Facts provided without comment: A couple of weeks ago I sent a list of parts I needed to Buymbparts buymbpa...@gmail.com and we went back and forth a couple times, got some prices on the stuff. This was just prices in the email, not the pdf quote with part #s, etc. I had received in the past

[MBZ] My experience -- a datum point

2013-06-07 Thread WILTON
Reminds me: Trent, will I be getting a pdf invoice for the parts I ordered last Fri? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 5:41 PM Subject: [MBZ] My experience

Re: [MBZ] OT - cat $#it in the garden

2013-06-07 Thread Benz Hogs
I've been around gardens since 1988, nearly always with the family cats that particularly enjoy the loose soil for a place to fertilize. My grandmother has been gardening for over 80 years. When living on the farm, she generally had more than 10 cats, so there was plenty of cat $#it to go

Re: [MBZ] Opine away

2013-06-07 Thread OK Don
Let's see - the Subaru was a copy of the German Goliath, the Datsun 1600 was a copy of the MGB or MGA - donT remember exactly now, what else? On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I had read somewhere that the Lexus LS400 sedan was copied after the w126.

Re: [MBZ] OT A Reminder

2013-06-07 Thread Benz Hogs
12 years too late, yes. Remember when right wingers through up a fit when Prez Obama said something to the effect of not letting a good crisis go to waste in regard to heathcare? Yea, Prez Bush had already screwed us. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (166,xxx mi) On

Re: [MBZ] A Sad End

2013-06-07 Thread Randy Bennell
On 07/06/2013 4:28 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 15:26:20 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Ooooh! Just wait til I get my 22's. You mean Long Rifle rimfires? :-) Randy, your car looks way better with hubcaps than bundts. No, but there was a nice little Henry lever

Re: [MBZ] OT - Conceal Carry

2013-06-07 Thread OK Don
*Community action can be as powerful a deterant as open carry -- not that I'm avocating mob rule or vigilanties ---* A man suspected of rape has been buried alive by villagers in the southern highlands of Bolivia. Police had identified the 17-year-old as the possible culprit in the rape and

Re: [MBZ] OT - Conceal Carry

2013-06-07 Thread G Mann
Short trial, quick judgement, rapid execution... seems about right. I'm sure he was read his Miranda rights and provided a public attorney while being fed gourmet meals for 10 years while setting on death row through the appeal process... just like here. Ohh.. and the TV movie and book deals

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D - won't start when hot.

2013-06-07 Thread Benz Hogs
Yes, WVO can vary from 0.5% to 3-5% acidity in the testing I have done. Generally the thicker the WVO, the higher the acidity, and the longer the WVO was used. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (166,xxx mi) On 5/28/2013 9:37 PM, G Mann wrote: Little discussed it seems among

Re: [MBZ] OT - Conceal Carry

2013-06-07 Thread OK Don
I just hope that he was the actual perp -- trial by public opinioni is not always effective at arriving at the truth. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:28 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Short trial, quick judgement, rapid execution... seems about right. I'm sure he was read his Miranda rights

Re: [MBZ] OT A Reminder

2013-06-07 Thread G Mann
I stand corrected. Correct in thought, incorrect in origin. Thank you. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: The tree of liberty need be watered from time to time with the blood of despots and free men. Patrick Henry

Re: [MBZ] OT - cat $#it in the garden

2013-06-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Thanks for a voice of reason arising above all the superstition. On Jun 7, 2013 5:50 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: I've been around gardens since 1988, nearly always with the family cats that particularly enjoy the loose soil for a place to fertilize. My grandmother has been

Re: [MBZ] SVO and IP issues was RE: 1984 300D - won't start when hot.

2013-06-07 Thread Benz Hogs
Virgin VO (VVO) has to be heated to 260F or higher to approach the viscosity of diesel. See the bell curve chart here: http://bunkum.us/svo/viscosity.html Biodiesel is the ONLY way to go. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (166,xxx mi) On 5/29/2013 8:34 AM, Smith, Todd wrote:

Re: [MBZ] SVO and IP issues was RE: 1984 300D - won't start when hot.

2013-06-07 Thread Benz Hogs
Their chart is not matched anywhere else in the industry. It's all marketing hype. Use Google to find the industry research that proves Frybrid wrong. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (166,xxx mi) On 6/6/2013 9:00 PM, Michael Esh wrote: http://www.frybrid.com/svo.htm I

Re: [MBZ] SVO and IP issues was RE: 1984 300D - won't start when hot.

2013-06-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Benz Hogs wrote: Virgin VO (VVO) has to be heated to 260F or higher to approach the viscosity of diesel. See the bell curve chart here: http://bunkum.us/svo/viscosity.html Biodiesel is the ONLY way to go. The graph Mike Esh linked earlier seemed to say that SVO (of unnamed variety) at 160°

Re: [MBZ] Sears service?

2013-06-07 Thread Greg Fiorentino
there are suituations where gas welding is better Yeah, but torches sure cut steel fast! -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 9:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sears service? On

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy tale

2013-06-07 Thread Dan Penoff
There is an important lesson in here that I learned as a youngster who was able to travel outside the country: When visiting other countries/cultures, follow some simple rules: 1.) Respect your host's culture. Never ridicule, disrespect, or dismiss their culture, language, country, etc. Just

Re: [MBZ] OT - Conceal Carry

2013-06-07 Thread Dieselhead
*Community action can be as powerful a deterant as open carry -- not that I'm avocating mob rule or vigilanties ---* A man suspected of rape has been buried alive by villagers in the southern highlands of Bolivia. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-22811105 -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012

Re: [MBZ] OT - Conceal Carry

2013-06-07 Thread Dieselhead
I just hope that he was the actual perp -- trial by public opinioni is not always effective at arriving at the truth. Brings to mind Injun Joe, as well as some of the convicts of Roy Bean's court. BUT the deterrent effect can't be argued. ___

[MBZ] CL crackhead of the day Fwd: Re: 1992 MERCEDES 400E (ATLANTA/CONLEY)

2013-06-07 Thread Rolf
I told him I'd drive right on past him to pullapart around the corner and pay $160. $3200 for a subframe WTF? -Rolf Sent from my ASUS Pad Original Message Subject: Re: 1992 MERCEDES 400E (ATLANTA/CONLEY) From: craigslist 3851566658 5vxvv-3851566...@sale.craigslist.org To:

Re: [MBZ] OT - Conceal Carry

2013-06-07 Thread Rich Thomas
The Quechua are descendants of the Incas and pretty much have their own deal going on. They appear not yet to have embraced the European concepts of justice. But hey, if it works for them, who are we to judge? Just a cultural difference and celebrating diversity and practicing tolerance

Re: [MBZ] Sears service?

2013-06-07 Thread Craig
On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 15:52:32 -0700 Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: there are suituations where gas welding is better Yeah, but torches sure cut steel fast! Indeed! But you do use a lot of oxygen doing it Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] My experience -- a datum point

2013-06-07 Thread MG
Yeah I understand that Trent has been having a lot of problems with Worldparts in regards to shipping and pricing. Hopefully this will get fixed sooner rather than later. Not much fun on either side of an order. Manfred Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 17:41:56 -0400 From: Rich Thomas

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy tale

2013-06-07 Thread WILTON
I agree wholeheartedly. I found that to be true not only in Greenland and Denmark, but also in Thailand, Japan and Mexico - even Ontario and Quebec ;). It's always best to respect one's hosts and to be a good ambassador. I've always been quickly and fully respected and accepted immediately

Re: [MBZ] CL crackhead of the day Fwd: Re: 1992 MERCEDES 400E (ATLANTA/CONLEY)

2013-06-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jun 7, 2013 4:55 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: I told him I'd drive right on past him to pullapart around the corner and pay $160. $3200 for a subframe WTF? What's special about a 400E subframe? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts

Re: [MBZ] Put your Merc on blocks

2013-06-07 Thread Rich Thomas
We had a coupla inches on Wed eve, rained like hell for about 2 hours, but last night it rained for about 2 hours but not too hard. Was not windy during the rain but quite breezy this morning. Not much ado. Perhaps it cleansed the merde del gato from your garden? --R (sent from my miniPad)

Re: [MBZ] 44 years OT

2013-06-07 Thread Mountain Man
Alex wrote: Does anyone really retire at 65 anymore? You know I will tell negative thoughts, so move on to another thread if you don't like reality and negative. Retire beyond 65 is wishful thinking today, unless you have a job that you manage. My last year of working was age 59, I'm sure -

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy tale

2013-06-07 Thread Dieselhead
There is an important lesson in here that I learned as a youngster who was able to travel outside the country: When visiting other countries/cultures, follow some simple rules: 1.) Respect your host's culture. Never ridicule, disrespect, or dismiss their culture, language, country, etc. Just

Re: [MBZ] OT A Reminder

2013-06-07 Thread Mountain Man
Patrick Henry wrote: The tree of liberty need be watered from time to time with the blood of despots and free men. Sounds all fine and good for a different era. This ain't gonna happen today. If this is going to happen today - please flesh out what and how this will happen. We are in an era

Re: [MBZ] OT - Conceal Carry

2013-06-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I felt sick reading that. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The Quechua are descendants of the Incas and pretty much have their own deal going on. They appear not yet to have embraced the European concepts of justice. But hey, if it

Re: [MBZ] OT - Conceal Carry

2013-06-07 Thread Mountain Man
Grant wrote: Short trial, quick judgement, rapid execution... seems about right. See the youtube movie Sophie Scholl - The Final Days: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmcSkrhWJRQ ...2 hours long, in german, with subtitles. Hitler made her and two others lose their heads in 4-days - peaceful

Re: [MBZ] 44 years OT

2013-06-07 Thread Dieselhead
What to do? - DIY seems the best. This is a good crew of people at okiebenz. Sorry for the negative thoughts. mao DIY is the way to go/stay. The other piece is the scout motto: Be prepared Mao is right, there is a game. We are being played. Democans and republicrats are both

Re: [MBZ] 44 years OT

2013-06-07 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: Time to read the declaration, the constitution, the bill of rights, the federalist papers, Common sense and the like, then educate your friends What can happen? Play out any scenario and there is not means to communicate *against* the size, stature, power, knowledge,

Re: [MBZ] 44 years OT

2013-06-07 Thread Rick Knoble
http://youtu.be/KuStsFW4EmQ You really need to read this. Really. Everyone on this list ought to read it probably... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/076114773X?ie=UTF8force-full-site=1ref_=aw_bottom_links Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com

[MBZ] oops

2013-06-07 Thread Mitch Haley
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Re: [MBZ] My experience -- a datum point

2013-06-07 Thread Rich Thomas
I did not buy stuff from Worldparts, I bought stuff from buymbparts. I don't want to hear excuses about some 3rd party, I want the stuff I paid for. --R On 6/7/13 8:16 PM, MG wrote: Yeah I understand that Trent has been having a lot of problems with Worldparts in regards to shipping and

Re: [MBZ] CL crackhead of the day Fwd: Re: 1992 MERCEDES 400E (ATLANTA/CONLEY)

2013-06-07 Thread Rich Thomas
It is 100 more than a 300E. Most cars only go to 300, this one goes to 400. --R On 6/7/13 8:57 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jun 7, 2013 4:55 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: I told him I'd drive right on past him to pullapart around the corner and pay $160. $3200 for a subframe WTF?

[MBZ] Bloxygen

2013-06-07 Thread Jerry Herrman
Anyone used a product called Bloxygen to displace air and oxygen from opened and partially used cans of such products as oil based paint, polyurethane, varnish, epoxys, fuel additives, etc.? Is it a significant advantage over, say, letting a film of oil paint skin over and removing it next time

Re: [MBZ] OT A Reminder

2013-06-07 Thread G Mann
You ask, I answer... My prediction is, about mid to late July, the public conscience will receive or cumulatively have received the requisite volume of moral insult to have reached it's threshold to action. From that, about mid Aug, [Americans are slow to anger and react] a series of trigger

Re: [MBZ] Bloxygen

2013-06-07 Thread Craig
On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 21:24:57 -0700 Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote: Anyone used a product called Bloxygen to displace air and oxygen from opened and partially used cans of such products as oil based paint, polyurethane, varnish, epoxys, fuel additives, etc.? Is it a significant advantage