Re: [MBZ] American policy HEY DAN - this is getting out of hand
More like: Air-uhh air-uhh bahtendah! --R On 6/16/15 1:39 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: G Mann wrote: Rumor has it that Ted was touring a whisky distillery and nearly drowned when he slipped and fell into a 10,000 gallon vat of whiskey.. > He would have.. but he got out twice to go to bathroom... Fat teddy kennedy was pathetic. His own ol man (criminal) probably would have had 'im rubbed out if the man had lived long enough. ... Story going around the hospitals and funeral homes had it that every time they tried to use embalming fluid he would raise up and shout: "Bartender!" Undertaker had to inject a case of scotch before they could close the lid. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] My announcement
I wanted to let you all be the first to know about my decision and announcement. I have been thinking long and hard about it, and had to screw up my courage but with your help and consideration I decided it is finally time to let the world know. I have become transGerman. Yes, this may surprise everyone, but it is something I have known since I was a kid, even before I really knew what German was. I guess my first awakenings started when I watched WW2 movies on TV when I was young. Then Combat! came along in prime time, and my curiosity was aroused more by the German soldiers, tanks, guns, half-tracks, and yes, old Mercedes staff cars than by Sarge, Little John, etc. The power and strength projected by that machinery resonated with me deep in my soul. I cringed when the pilots of 12 O'clock High bombed all that equipment but I could not let on. As time went on I was always the German when we played war, and willingly allowed myself to be shot and captured by my American friends. They all thought it was just playing, but inside I knew I really was German and it was not acting for me. Hogan's Heroes? Don't even get me started on that -- Colonel Klink showed me that wearing a monocle was OK, even though I only did it in private. In high school, when I heard a classmate's father actually owned a Mercedes-Benz car, you can't imagine the feelings that stirred in my heart. I wanted to go touch it and feel it and run my hands over it but it was not to be. I still could not tell anyone for fear of the lingering stigma associated with Germaness, but when another friend started taking German language classes I started to feel like there was hope. I was still afraid to open up to anyone about my true self, so kept it repressed even to family and friends. As I got older, and the opportunity arose to actually purchase a Mercedes-Benz car of my own, I jumped on it! The joy I felt was tempered by the reality that actually coming out as transGerman would alienate friends and neighbors and family, so I kept it quiet still (though I think many suspected my true nature). When I began spending hours talking about German cars, researching the fascinating details of the different makes and models and years and how to keep them running well, I knew it was only a matter of time. I found this list and found a community of acceptance, which has meant so much for me. When my son needed another car, my first thought was Mercedes! I could live vicariously even more through his experience, though I was not trying in any way to recruit him to this lifestyle, though he did need to develop an understanding of what it meant. My daughter learned to drive a Mercedes but she is clearly cisAmerican too. My near-redemption came when my wife indicated that she too wanted a Mercedes-Benz automobile, a diesel even! I knew then that acceptance of my true Germaness was at hand! I'm sure many of you have suspected this and I thank you for your understanding and acceptance of my decision to make it official! What really made it right for now was driving the ML350 Bluetech this weekend and just knowing it was sooo right! All my fears and apprehensions have evaporated, and I truly feel joy to announce officially and with great pride my transGermaning. I know we can't all be physically together to celebrate this big event in my life so I hope that you all can go start your cars today and think a bit about what this means to me, and to work hard for full transGerman acceptance in our society. Carry on! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My announcement
Wow! I wanted to let you all be the first to know about my decision and announcement. I have been thinking long and hard about it, and had to screw up my courage but with your help and consideration I decided it is finally time to let the world know. I have become transGerman. Yes, this may surprise everyone, but it is something I have known since I was a kid, even before I really knew what German was. I guess my first awakenings started when I watched WW2 movies on TV when I was young. Then Combat! came along in prime time, and my curiosity was aroused more by the German soldiers, tanks, guns, half-tracks, and yes, old Mercedes staff cars than by Sarge, Little John, etc. The power and strength projected by that machinery resonated with me deep in my soul. I cringed when the pilots of 12 O'clock High bombed all that equipment but I could not let on. As time went on I was always the German when we played war, and willingly allowed myself to be shot and captured by my American friends. They all thought it was just playing, but inside I knew I really was German and it was not acting for me. Hogan's Heroes? Don't even get me started on that -- Colonel Klink showed me that wearing a monocle was OK, even though I only did it in private. In high school, when I heard a classmate's father actually owned a Mercedes-Benz car, you can't imagine the feelings that stirred in my heart. I wanted to go touch it and feel it and run my hands over it but it was not to be. I still could not tell anyone for fear of the lingering stigma associated with Germaness, but when another friend started taking German language classes I started to feel like there was hope. I was still afraid to open up to anyone about my true self, so kept it repressed even to family and friends. As I got older, and the opportunity arose to actually purchase a Mercedes-Benz car of my own, I jumped on it! The joy I felt was tempered by the reality that actually coming out as transGerman would alienate friends and neighbors and family, so I kept it quiet still (though I think many suspected my true nature). When I began spending hours talking about German cars, researching the fascinating details of the different makes and models and years and how to keep them running well, I knew it was only a matter of time. I found this list and found a community of acceptance, which has meant so much for me. When my son needed another car, my first thought was Mercedes! I could live vicariously even more through his experience, though I was not trying in any way to recruit him to this lifestyle, though he did need to develop an understanding of what it meant. My daughter learned to drive a Mercedes but she is clearly cisAmerican too. My near-redemption came when my wife indicated that she too wanted a Mercedes-Benz automobile, a diesel even! I knew then that acceptance of my true Germaness was at hand! I'm sure many of you have suspected this and I thank you for your understanding and acceptance of my decision to make it official! What really made it right for now was driving the ML350 Bluetech this weekend and just knowing it was sooo right! All my fears and apprehensions have evaporated, and I truly feel joy to announce officially and with great pride my transGermaning. I know we can't all be physically together to celebrate this big event in my life so I hope that you all can go start your cars today and think a bit about what this means to me, and to work hard for full transGerman acceptance in our society. Carry on! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wut I dun Lernt frum Wulding this week
Hammering hot welds is done with oxyacetylene welding. It is not suitable for mig or wire feed welding as the puddle cools too quickly. If you want to undo the distortion caused to the metal by the shrinking effect of the weld, grind the weld down on both sides and then hammer on dolly over the seam. This stretches the metal and removes the distortion. Only hammer on the weld line and 1/4 inch above and below! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2015, at 7:44 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > The weld, hammer/dolly, weld technique is one that requires practice. > Location of hammer / dolly is critical so you develop muscle memory as it > becomes automatic.. also, Harbor Freight makes a dandy device that holds > the welding torch. It is magnetic on one end, so it attaches it's self to > nearby metal, and the part that holds the torch keeps it and it's hot end > out of your way. It is just a piece of flat stock with a hole in it.. one > side of the hole is cut to a slot.. you slip the torch in through the slot > and "release it" and it "hangs there" ready to pick back up.. very clever > and handy.. about $6 as I recall. > > Hammering the weld will also break up the slag, which sets you proper for > next tack weld. > > It works particularly well if you use the punch hole / lap joint process I > first described.. > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:56 PM, clay via Mercedes > wrote: > >> The machine is made to handle only 0.030 and 0.035 flux. The feed wheels >> flip over to accept one or the other. Crank down barely grasps the 0.030 >> enough to feed at lowest speeds. >> >> I am thinking your advice to hammer the hot puddle may require a third and >> forth hand. I should be able to find something like that >> >> clay >> >> >>> On Jun 14, 2015, at 9:54 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Question I failed to ask: >>> >>> What diameter wire are you using? .020, .030 or .035 ? >>> >>> To use the .020 wire, you will need to change the wheel gap adjustment to >>> fit the smaller wire AND change the wire guide in the business end of the >>> torch to fit the smaller wire. >>> >>> Smaller wire will give you a hotter, smaller weld puddle, so you will >> need >>> to change your speed of torch movement to adapt. However, with smaller >>> wire, you should get a weld puddle that is more correct size for thinner >>> sheet metal. If you have an amperage adjustment, crank it down for the >>> smaller wire. >>> >>> Again, do spot welds, Hammer and dolly the welds while still red, which >>> will flatten the weld joint and make better contact, thus better welds.. >>> Your "tack weld" should be 1/8 to 1/4 inch long, so as you work the panel >>> into position [tack on one side.. hammer/dolly to flatten tack the >>> other side .. hammer/dolly to flatten.. As you work around the repair.. >>> soon you have the patch "contained" with the weld joint overlap nice and >>> flat from "hammer / dolly" and on the second pass.. instead of tack >> welds 4 >>> inches apart.. go in between the 4 inch tacks.. same routine.. so on >> second >>> pass you have a tack ever 2 inches.. repeat as necessary.. >>> >>> Soon you have a good repair. >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 6:26 PM, clay via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> wrote: >>> I actually read the destructions that came with the zapper. I followed the set up to the letter and even made sure the wheels were in the >> proper orientation for the wire I was using. There are no teeth to the wheels that would provide decent bite. Just some knurling like you would find >> on a dime in the grooves. I have the tension adjusted almost to the point >> of strangling the wire. It does not speed up or make the wire feed >> properly. I am thinking the low speed setting is actually in Dummy mode. Since there is no adjustment for heat, just speed, it could be a failsafe. >> The lowest speeds must be regulated in such a manner that using it on thin sheet metal would not allow it to function long enough to burn through. Maybe it is set to feed tacks so you do not overheat and warp. Sort of forcing you to start and stop against your will. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > On Jun 14, 2015, at 5:03 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > Just had a flash on something our new welder said in an earlier post about > the wire not feeding consistantly.. > > I've never been into the bowels of a Harbor Fright unit.. but there should > be a "tension adjustment" on the wire feed motor. [everyone I've used >> to > date did
Re: [MBZ] My announcement
Group hug? Dan who openly accepts his transGermaness yet has no desire to annex the Sudetenland Sent from my iPad > On Jun 16, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > I wanted to let you all be the first to know about my decision and > announcement. I have been thinking long and hard about it, and had to screw > up my courage but with your help and consideration I decided it is finally > time to let the world know. > > I have become transGerman. > > Yes, this may surprise everyone, but it is something I have known since I was > a kid, even before I really knew what German was. I guess my first > awakenings started when I watched WW2 movies on TV when I was young. Then > Combat! came along in prime time, and my curiosity was aroused more by the > German soldiers, tanks, guns, half-tracks, and yes, old Mercedes staff cars > than by Sarge, Little John, etc. The power and strength projected by that > machinery resonated with me deep in my soul. I cringed when the pilots of 12 > O'clock High bombed all that equipment but I could not let on. As time went > on I was always the German when we played war, and willingly allowed myself > to be shot and captured by my American friends. They all thought it was just > playing, but inside I knew I really was German and it was not acting for me. > Hogan's Heroes? Don't even get me started on that -- Colonel Klink showed me > that wearing a monocle was OK, even though I only did it in private. > > In high school, when I heard a classmate's father actually owned a > Mercedes-Benz car, you can't imagine the feelings that stirred in my heart. > I wanted to go touch it and feel it and run my hands over it but it was not > to be. I still could not tell anyone for fear of the lingering stigma > associated with Germaness, but when another friend started taking German > language classes I started to feel like there was hope. I was still afraid > to open up to anyone about my true self, so kept it repressed even to family > and friends. > > As I got older, and the opportunity arose to actually purchase a > Mercedes-Benz car of my own, I jumped on it! The joy I felt was tempered by > the reality that actually coming out as transGerman would alienate friends > and neighbors and family, so I kept it quiet still (though I think many > suspected my true nature). When I began spending hours talking about German > cars, researching the fascinating details of the different makes and models > and years and how to keep them running well, I knew it was only a matter of > time. > > I found this list and found a community of acceptance, which has meant so > much for me. > > When my son needed another car, my first thought was Mercedes! I could live > vicariously even more through his experience, though I was not trying in any > way to recruit him to this lifestyle, though he did need to develop an > understanding of what it meant. My daughter learned to drive a Mercedes but > she is clearly cisAmerican too. > > My near-redemption came when my wife indicated that she too wanted a > Mercedes-Benz automobile, a diesel even! I knew then that acceptance of my > true Germaness was at hand! I'm sure many of you have suspected this and I > thank you for your understanding and acceptance of my decision to make it > official! What really made it right for now was driving the ML350 Bluetech > this weekend and just knowing it was sooo right! All my fears and > apprehensions have evaporated, and I truly feel joy to announce officially > and with great pride my transGermaning. > > I know we can't all be physically together to celebrate this big event in my > life so I hope that you all can go start your cars today and think a bit > about what this means to me, and to work hard for full transGerman acceptance > in our society. > > Carry on! > > --R > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My announcement
I shall be going to the local Pride Parade wearing Lederhosen and playing oompah music whilst driving in my Benz diesel. Heil Benz! --R On 6/16/15 11:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Group hug? Dan who openly accepts his transGermaness yet has no desire to annex the Sudetenland Sent from my iPad On Jun 16, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: I wanted to let you all be the first to know about my decision and announcement. I have been thinking long and hard about it, and had to screw up my courage but with your help and consideration I decided it is finally time to let the world know. I have become transGerman. Yes, this may surprise everyone, but it is something I have known since I was a kid, even before I really knew what German was. I guess my first awakenings started when I watched WW2 movies on TV when I was young. Then Combat! came along in prime time, and my curiosity was aroused more by the German soldiers, tanks, guns, half-tracks, and yes, old Mercedes staff cars than by Sarge, Little John, etc. The power and strength projected by that machinery resonated with me deep in my soul. I cringed when the pilots of 12 O'clock High bombed all that equipment but I could not let on. As time went on I was always the German when we played war, and willingly allowed myself to be shot and captured by my American friends. They all thought it was just playing, but inside I knew I really was German and it was not acting for me. Hogan's Heroes? Don't even get me started on that -- Colonel Klink showed me that wearing a monocle was OK, even though I only did it in private. In high school, when I heard a classmate's father actually owned a Mercedes-Benz car, you can't imagine the feelings that stirred in my heart. I wanted to go touch it and feel it and run my hands over it but it was not to be. I still could not tell anyone for fear of the lingering stigma associated with Germaness, but when another friend started taking German language classes I started to feel like there was hope. I was still afraid to open up to anyone about my true self, so kept it repressed even to family and friends. As I got older, and the opportunity arose to actually purchase a Mercedes-Benz car of my own, I jumped on it! The joy I felt was tempered by the reality that actually coming out as transGerman would alienate friends and neighbors and family, so I kept it quiet still (though I think many suspected my true nature). When I began spending hours talking about German cars, researching the fascinating details of the different makes and models and years and how to keep them running well, I knew it was only a matter of time. I found this list and found a community of acceptance, which has meant so much for me. When my son needed another car, my first thought was Mercedes! I could live vicariously even more through his experience, though I was not trying in any way to recruit him to this lifestyle, though he did need to develop an understanding of what it meant. My daughter learned to drive a Mercedes but she is clearly cisAmerican too. My near-redemption came when my wife indicated that she too wanted a Mercedes-Benz automobile, a diesel even! I knew then that acceptance of my true Germaness was at hand! I'm sure many of you have suspected this and I thank you for your understanding and acceptance of my decision to make it official! What really made it right for now was driving the ML350 Bluetech this weekend and just knowing it was sooo right! All my fears and apprehensions have evaporated, and I truly feel joy to announce officially and with great pride my transGermaning. I know we can't all be physically together to celebrate this big event in my life so I hope that you all can go start your cars today and think a bit about what this means to me, and to work hard for full transGerman acceptance in our society. Carry on! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] More on welding learnings
My buddy has been taking serious baking classes at the local tech college (he is a retired doctor and loves baking though they wanted him to take an English test to make sure he could communicate well enough to learn) and tells me that it is free once you hit 60 years on your meter. I recently did that (HTF did that happen) so was thinking to go learn welding since it costs nothing but time and I think a materials fee. They have a whole sequence to get a certificate but I was thinking that maybe just a couple of the proper classes would be sufficient? Or just go for it? I could probably fit it all in around my current obligations. Here is the list of courses (copy/paste sorta messes up the formatting of the pdf http://www.tridenttech.edu/_files/catalog/it/Wldg_GMA_FCA_fa.pdf ) http://www.tridenttech.edu/academics/divisions/iet/iet_welding.htm Any thoughts from the welding pros on a strategy? Should I talk to them to see what a hobbyist would be best to do? --R ___ INDUSTRIAL TECHNOLOGY ___ Second Semester – Spring Fourth Semester – Spring EGT 117 WLD 120 WLD 121 WLD 201 Welding Print Principles2 Flux Cored Arc Welding I4 Flux Cored Arc Welding II1 Welding Metallurgy2 EGT 117 WLD 201 Welding Print Principles Welding Metallurgy 2 2 Total 4 Third Semester – Summer WLD 122 WLD 123 Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous I 4 Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous II1 Total 5 Important information about the educational debt, earnings, and completion rates of students who attended this program can be found in section D. Welding Gas Metal Arc and Flux Cored Arc Certificate in Applied Science Credit Requirements: 24 Semester Credit Hours Spring Semester Start This certificate teaches beginning and intermediate welding students the principles and practices of gas metal arc and flux cored arc welding in preparation for entry into the welding fields of manufacturing, construction, transportation and maintenance. Admission into this program requires qualifying scores on SAT, ACT or TTC’s placement test. High school graduation is not required if you are at least 18 years old. Recommended Sequence of Courses First Semester – Spring WLD 118 WLD 119 Gas Metal Arc Welding Ferrous I4 Gas Metal Arc Welding Ferrous II 1 Total 5 WLD 110 WLD 118 WLD 119 Welding Safety and Health1 Gas Metal Arc Welding Ferrous I4 Gas Metal Arc Welding Ferrous II1 EGT 114 WLD 110 WLD 120 WLD 121 WLD 141 Welding Print Basics Welding Safety and Health Flux Cored Arc Welding I Flux Cored Arc Welding II Weld Quality 2 1 4 1 2 Total 10 Second Semester – Summer 2 1 2 Total 9 WLD 120Flux Cored Arc Welding I4 WLD 121Flux Cored Arc Welding II1 Total 5 Third Semester – Fall Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous II Welding Metallurgy EGT 114 WLD 122 WLD 123 Welding Print Basics2 Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous I 4 Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous II1 Weld Quality2 Important information about the educational debt, earnings, and completion rates of students who attended this program can be found in section D. WLD 141 For updated catalog, visit www.tridenttech.edu.B-146 Total 9 Important information about the educational debt, earnings, and completion rates of students who attended this program can be found in section D. Welding Gas Metal Arc and Flux Cored Arc Certificate in Applied Science Credit Requirements: 24 Semester Credit Hours Summer Semester Start This certificate teaches beginning and intermediate welding students the principles and practices of gas metal arc and flux cored arc welding in preparation for entry into the welding fields of manufacturing, construction, transportation and maintenance. Admission into this program requires qualifying scores on SAT, ACT or TTC’s placement test. High school graduation is not required if you are at least 18 years old. Recommended Sequence of Courses First Semester – Summer Total 6 Third Semester – Spring Total 9 Second Semester – Fall EGT 117 WLD 122 WLD 123 WLD 201 Welding Print Principles Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous I4 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ shirts, was: hey WILTON
Yes, the cost would be prohibitive. RB On 15/06/2015 7:43 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: I am guessing Randy that all shirts will have to have the design. We will keep you posted. On Jun 15, 2015 11:32 AM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: How about a shirt that says "I did'nt make it to the ChowdaQ"? or, "I couldn't make it to the QhowdaQ." RB On 13/06/2015 3:57 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: We can see what Curt says when he wakes up in the phillipines as that is his dept. Personally I would hope we could figure out a way to take orders. One idea i have for next year is to tske some nice photos of the star lineup at the Q & put it on next year's shirt.. On Jun 13, 2015 4:49 PM, "Bob Rentfro via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I'd like to buy one if you all decide that those unable to attend can have a shirt. I'll be in Saratoga Springs next weekthat's too early. Bob R On Jun 13, 2015 5:23 AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Ha! I'll ask... Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My announcement
This explains a lot! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ shirts, was: hey WILTON
I'm onboard for one shirt. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On June 16, 2015 11:31:02 AM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: >Yes, the cost would be prohibitive. > >RB > >On 15/06/2015 7:43 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: >> I am guessing Randy that all shirts will have to have the design. We >will >> keep you posted. >> On Jun 15, 2015 11:32 AM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> How about a shirt that says "I did'nt make it to the ChowdaQ"? >>> >>> or, "I couldn't make it to the QhowdaQ." >>> >>> RB >>> >>> On 13/06/2015 3:57 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: >>> We can see what Curt says when he wakes up in the phillipines as >that is his dept. Personally I would hope we could figure out a way to take orders. One idea i have for next year is to tske some nice photos of the >star lineup at the Q & put it on next year's shirt.. On Jun 13, 2015 4:49 PM, "Bob Rentfro via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I'd like to buy one if you all decide that those unable to attend >can > have > a shirt. > I'll be in Saratoga Springs next weekthat's too early. > > Bob R > On Jun 13, 2015 5:23 AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > Ha! I'll ask... >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] American policy HEY DAN - this is getting out of hand
Hate to ruin your party, but there are tons of young Kennedys running around carrying out Ted's policy legacy... On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > More like: Air-uhh air-uhh bahtendah! > > --R > > > > On 6/16/15 1:39 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: > >> G Mann wrote: >> >>> Rumor has it that Ted was touring a whisky distillery and nearly >> drowned >> >>>when he slipped and fell into a 10,000 gallon vat of whiskey.. >>> >>> > He would have.. but he got out twice to go to bathroom... >> >> Fat teddy kennedy was pathetic. His own ol man (criminal) probably > would > have had 'im rubbed out if the man had lived long enough. > ... >> Story going around the hospitals and funeral homes had it that every time >> they tried to use embalming fluid he would raise up and shout: >> "Bartender!" Undertaker had to inject a case of scotch before they could >> close the lid. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My announcement
I knew it all along but respected your privacy and desire to stay *in der Klosett*. On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This explains a lot! > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on welding learnings
The only requirement is that you WANT to do it. Nothing else matters. On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My buddy has been taking serious baking classes at the local tech college > (he is a retired doctor and loves baking though they wanted him to take an > English test to make sure he could communicate well enough to learn) and > tells me that it is free once you hit 60 years on your meter. I recently > did that (HTF did that happen) so was thinking to go learn welding > since it costs nothing but time and I think a materials fee. They have a > whole sequence to get a certificate but I was thinking that maybe just a > couple of the proper classes would be sufficient? Or just go for it? I > could probably fit it all in around my current obligations. > > Here is the list of courses (copy/paste sorta messes up the formatting of > the pdf http://www.tridenttech.edu/_files/catalog/it/Wldg_GMA_FCA_fa.pdf > ) > > http://www.tridenttech.edu/academics/divisions/iet/iet_welding.htm > > Any thoughts from the welding pros on a strategy? Should I talk to them > to see what a hobbyist would be best to do? > > --R > > > > ___ INDUSTRIAL TECHNOLOGY ___ > Second Semester – Spring > Fourth Semester – Spring > EGT 117 WLD 120 WLD 121 WLD 201 > Welding Print Principles2 Flux Cored Arc Welding I4 Flux Cored Arc > Welding II1 Welding Metallurgy2 > EGT 117 WLD 201 > Welding Print Principles Welding Metallurgy > 2 > 2 > Total 4 > Third Semester – Summer > WLD 122 WLD 123 > Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous I 4 Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous II > 1 > Total 5 > Important information about the educational debt, earnings, and completion > rates of students who attended this program can be found in section D. > Welding Gas Metal Arc and Flux Cored Arc > Certificate in Applied Science Credit Requirements: 24 Semester Credit > Hours Spring Semester Start > This certificate teaches beginning and intermediate welding students the > principles and practices of gas metal arc and flux cored arc welding in > preparation for entry into the welding fields of manufacturing, > construction, transportation and maintenance. > Admission into this program requires qualifying scores on SAT, ACT or > TTC’s placement test. High school graduation is not required if you are at > least 18 years old. > Recommended Sequence of Courses First Semester – Spring > WLD 118 WLD 119 > Gas Metal Arc Welding Ferrous I4 Gas Metal Arc Welding Ferrous II1 > Total 5 > WLD 110 WLD 118 WLD 119 > Welding Safety and Health1 Gas Metal Arc Welding Ferrous I4 Gas > Metal Arc Welding Ferrous II1 > EGT 114 WLD 110 WLD 120 WLD 121 WLD 141 > Welding Print Basics Welding Safety and Health Flux Cored Arc Welding I > Flux Cored Arc Welding II Weld Quality > 2 1 4 1 2 > Total 10 > Second Semester – Summer > 2 > 1 > 2 > Total 9 > WLD 120Flux Cored Arc Welding I4 WLD 121Flux Cored Arc Welding > II1 Total 5 > Third Semester – Fall > Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous II Welding Metallurgy > EGT 114 WLD 122 WLD 123 > Welding Print Basics2 Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous I 4 Gas Metal > Arc Welding Nonferrous II1 Weld Quality2 > Important information about the educational debt, earnings, and completion > rates of students who attended this program can be found in section D. > WLD 141 For updated catalog, visit www.tridenttech.edu.B-146 > Total 9 > Important information about the educational debt, earnings, and completion > rates of students who attended this program can be found in section D. > Welding Gas Metal Arc and Flux Cored Arc > Certificate in Applied Science Credit Requirements: 24 Semester Credit > Hours Summer Semester Start > This certificate teaches beginning and intermediate welding students the > principles and practices of gas metal arc and flux cored arc welding in > preparation for entry into the welding fields of manufacturing, > construction, transportation and maintenance. > Admission into this program requires qualifying scores on SAT, ACT or > TTC’s placement test. High school graduation is not required if you are at > least 18 years old. > Recommended Sequence of Courses First Semester – Summer > Total 6 > Third Semester – Spring > Total 9 > Second Semester – Fall > EGT 117 WLD 122 WLD 123 > WLD 201 > Welding Print Principles Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous I4 > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My announcement
Thank you. You can touch my monkey. --Dieter (I forgot to mention this) On 6/16/15 12:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I knew it all along but respected your privacy and desire to stay *in der Klosett*. On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: This explains a lot! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on welding learnings
Take all the courses, based on the educational principle "If you throw enough mud at a wall, some of it will stick". Either take the courses, which you will enjoy, or be forced to play golf in the hot sun with drunk people 4 times a week.. Welcome to retirement age.. ;)) IMHO, of course.. On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The only requirement is that you WANT to do it. Nothing else matters. > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > My buddy has been taking serious baking classes at the local tech college > > (he is a retired doctor and loves baking though they wanted him to take > an > > English test to make sure he could communicate well enough to learn) and > > tells me that it is free once you hit 60 years on your meter. I recently > > did that (HTF did that happen) so was thinking to go learn welding > > since it costs nothing but time and I think a materials fee. They have a > > whole sequence to get a certificate but I was thinking that maybe just a > > couple of the proper classes would be sufficient? Or just go for it? I > > could probably fit it all in around my current obligations. > > > > Here is the list of courses (copy/paste sorta messes up the formatting of > > the pdf http://www.tridenttech.edu/_files/catalog/it/Wldg_GMA_FCA_fa.pdf > > ) > > > > http://www.tridenttech.edu/academics/divisions/iet/iet_welding.htm > > > > Any thoughts from the welding pros on a strategy? Should I talk to them > > to see what a hobbyist would be best to do? > > > > --R > > > > > > > > ___ INDUSTRIAL TECHNOLOGY ___ > > Second Semester – Spring > > Fourth Semester – Spring > > EGT 117 WLD 120 WLD 121 WLD 201 > > Welding Print Principles2 Flux Cored Arc Welding I4 Flux Cored > Arc > > Welding II1 Welding Metallurgy2 > > EGT 117 WLD 201 > > Welding Print Principles Welding Metallurgy > > 2 > > 2 > > Total 4 > > Third Semester – Summer > > WLD 122 WLD 123 > > Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous I 4 Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous II > > 1 > > Total 5 > > Important information about the educational debt, earnings, and > completion > > rates of students who attended this program can be found in section D. > > Welding Gas Metal Arc and Flux Cored Arc > > Certificate in Applied Science Credit Requirements: 24 Semester Credit > > Hours Spring Semester Start > > This certificate teaches beginning and intermediate welding students the > > principles and practices of gas metal arc and flux cored arc welding in > > preparation for entry into the welding fields of manufacturing, > > construction, transportation and maintenance. > > Admission into this program requires qualifying scores on SAT, ACT or > > TTC’s placement test. High school graduation is not required if you are > at > > least 18 years old. > > Recommended Sequence of Courses First Semester – Spring > > WLD 118 WLD 119 > > Gas Metal Arc Welding Ferrous I4 Gas Metal Arc Welding Ferrous II > 1 > > Total 5 > > WLD 110 WLD 118 WLD 119 > > Welding Safety and Health1 Gas Metal Arc Welding Ferrous I4 Gas > > Metal Arc Welding Ferrous II1 > > EGT 114 WLD 110 WLD 120 WLD 121 WLD 141 > > Welding Print Basics Welding Safety and Health Flux Cored Arc Welding I > > Flux Cored Arc Welding II Weld Quality > > 2 1 4 1 2 > > Total 10 > > Second Semester – Summer > > 2 > > 1 > > 2 > > Total 9 > > WLD 120Flux Cored Arc Welding I4 WLD 121Flux Cored Arc > Welding > > II1 Total 5 > > Third Semester – Fall > > Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous II Welding Metallurgy > > EGT 114 WLD 122 WLD 123 > > Welding Print Basics2 Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous I 4 Gas Metal > > Arc Welding Nonferrous II1 Weld Quality2 > > Important information about the educational debt, earnings, and > completion > > rates of students who attended this program can be found in section D. > > WLD 141 For updated catalog, visit www.tridenttech.edu.B-146 > > Total 9 > > Important information about the educational debt, earnings, and > completion > > rates of students who attended this program can be found in section D. > > Welding Gas Metal Arc and Flux Cored Arc > > Certificate in Applied Science Credit Requirements: 24 Semester Credit > > Hours Summer Semester Start > > This certificate teaches beginning and intermediate welding students the > > principles and practices of gas metal arc and flux cored arc welding in > > preparation for entry into the welding fields of manufacturing, > > construction, transportation and maintenance. > > Admission into this program requires qualifying scores on SAT, ACT or > > TTC’s placement test. High school graduation is not required if you are > at > > least 18 years old. > > Recommended Sequence of Courses First Semester – Summer > > Total 6 > > Third Semester – Spring > > Total 9 > > Second Semester – Fall > > EGT 117 WLD 122 WLD 123 > >
Re: [MBZ] More on welding learnings
Get the Certificate. It will look good on the kitchen wall when SWMBO has the doctor buddies over. A guy I know at a CC who was in change of continuing ed had a sheep seller's licence on the wall. He never sold sheep, but he was one of 3 people in the state licensed to sell 'em. He did it as a lark. A few years later the state revoked his license because they figgered out he never sold any sheep. My buddy has been taking serious baking classes at the local tech college (he is a retired doctor and loves baking though they wanted him to take an English test to make sure he could communicate well enough to learn) and tells me that it is free once you hit 60 years on your meter. I recently did that (HTF did that happen) so was thinking to go learn welding since it costs nothing but time and I think a materials fee. They have a whole sequence to get a certificate but I was thinking that maybe just a couple of the proper classes would be sufficient? Or just go for it? I could probably fit it all in around my current obligations. Here is the list of courses (copy/paste sorta messes up the formatting of the pdf http://www.tridenttech.edu/_files/catalog/it/Wldg_GMA_FCA_fa.pdf ) http://www.tridenttech.edu/academics/divisions/iet/iet_welding.htm Any thoughts from the welding pros on a strategy? Should I talk to them to see what a hobbyist would be best to do? --R ___ INDUSTRIAL TECHNOLOGY ___ Second Semester - Spring Fourth Semester - Spring EGT 117 WLD 120 WLD 121 WLD 201 Welding Print Principles2 Flux Cored Arc Welding I4 Flux Cored Arc Welding II1 Welding Metallurgy2 EGT 117 WLD 201 Welding Print Principles Welding Metallurgy 2 2 Total 4 Third Semester - Summer WLD 122 WLD 123 Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous I 4 Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous II1 Total 5 Important information about the educational debt, earnings, and completion rates of students who attended this program can be found in section D. Welding Gas Metal Arc and Flux Cored Arc Certificate in Applied Science Credit Requirements: 24 Semester Credit Hours Spring Semester Start This certificate teaches beginning and intermediate welding students the principles and practices of gas metal arc and flux cored arc welding in preparation for entry into the welding fields of manufacturing, construction, transportation and maintenance. Admission into this program requires qualifying scores on SAT, ACT or TTC's placement test. High school graduation is not required if you are at least 18 years old. Recommended Sequence of Courses First Semester - Spring WLD 118 WLD 119 Gas Metal Arc Welding Ferrous I4 Gas Metal Arc Welding Ferrous II 1 Total 5 WLD 110 WLD 118 WLD 119 Welding Safety and Health1 Gas Metal Arc Welding Ferrous I4 Gas Metal Arc Welding Ferrous II1 EGT 114 WLD 110 WLD 120 WLD 121 WLD 141 Welding Print Basics Welding Safety and Health Flux Cored Arc Welding I Flux Cored Arc Welding II Weld Quality 2 1 4 1 2 Total 10 Second Semester - Summer 2 1 2 Total 9 WLD 120Flux Cored Arc Welding I4 WLD 121Flux Cored Arc Welding II1 Total 5 Third Semester - Fall Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous II Welding Metallurgy EGT 114 WLD 122 WLD 123 Welding Print Basics2 Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous I 4 Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous II1 Weld Quality2 Important information about the educational debt, earnings, and completion rates of students who attended this program can be found in section D. WLD 141 For updated catalog, visit www.tridenttech.edu.B-146 Total 9 Important information about the educational debt, earnings, and completion rates of students who attended this program can be found in section D. Welding Gas Metal Arc and Flux Cored Arc Certificate in Applied Science Credit Requirements: 24 Semester Credit Hours Summer Semester Start This certificate teaches beginning and intermediate welding students the principles and practices of gas metal arc and flux cored arc welding in preparation for entry into the welding fields of manufacturing, construction, transportation and maintenance. Admission into this program requires qualifying scores on SAT, ACT or TTC's placement test. High school graduation is not required if you are at least 18 years old. Recommended Sequence of Courses First Semester - Summer Total 6 Third Semester - Spring Total 9 Second Semester - Fall EGT 117 WLD 122 WLD 123 WLD 201 Welding Print Principles Gas Metal Arc Welding Nonferrous I4 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail
Re: [MBZ] My announcement
And now we shall dance! Dan not touching any monkeys, thank you. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 16, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > Thank you. > > You can touch my monkey. > > --Dieter (I forgot to mention this) > >> On 6/16/15 12:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >> I knew it all along but respected your privacy and desire to stay *in der >> Klosett*. >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> This explains a lot! >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> '87 300TD >>> '95 E300 >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More on welding learnings
Hey, if you are not going to actually make any real use of it, you can make your own certificate. You could even get it printed on a T shirt. I suggest your certificate state that you got your "training" from the "MBZ Online School of Welding" and that it certify that you are potentially proficient in the welding of Mercedes Benz models of relatively ancient vintage. RB RB On 16/06/2015 11:28 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Get the Certificate. It will look good on the kitchen wall when SWMBO has the doctor buddies over. A guy I know at a CC who was in change of continuing ed had a sheep seller's licence on the wall. He never sold sheep, but he was one of 3 people in the state licensed to sell 'em. He did it as a lark. A few years later the state revoked his license because they figgered out he never sold any sheep. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My announcement
Very well done. Only thing missing is coupla ACHTUNGS! So, we'll be seeing you on cover of Der Spiegel in lederhosen? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Rich Thomas" Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:48 AM Subject: [MBZ] My announcement I wanted to let you all be the first to know about my decision and announcement. I have been thinking long and hard about it, and had to screw up my courage but with your help and consideration I decided it is finally time to let the world know. I have become transGerman. Yes, this may surprise everyone, but it is something I have known since I was a kid, even before I really knew what German was. I guess my first awakenings started when I watched WW2 movies on TV when I was young. Then Combat! came along in prime time, and my curiosity was aroused more by the German soldiers, tanks, guns, half-tracks, and yes, old Mercedes staff cars than by Sarge, Little John, etc. The power and strength projected by that machinery resonated with me deep in my soul. I cringed when the pilots of 12 O'clock High bombed all that equipment but I could not let on. As time went on I was always the German when we played war, and willingly allowed myself to be shot and captured by my American friends. They all thought it was just playing, but inside I knew I really was German and it was not acting for me. Hogan's Heroes? Don't even get me started on that -- Colonel Klink showed me that wearing a monocle was OK, even though I only did it in private. In high school, when I heard a classmate's father actually owned a Mercedes-Benz car, you can't imagine the feelings that stirred in my heart. I wanted to go touch it and feel it and run my hands over it but it was not to be. I still could not tell anyone for fear of the lingering stigma associated with Germaness, but when another friend started taking German language classes I started to feel like there was hope. I was still afraid to open up to anyone about my true self, so kept it repressed even to family and friends. As I got older, and the opportunity arose to actually purchase a Mercedes-Benz car of my own, I jumped on it! The joy I felt was tempered by the reality that actually coming out as transGerman would alienate friends and neighbors and family, so I kept it quiet still (though I think many suspected my true nature). When I began spending hours talking about German cars, researching the fascinating details of the different makes and models and years and how to keep them running well, I knew it was only a matter of time. I found this list and found a community of acceptance, which has meant so much for me. When my son needed another car, my first thought was Mercedes! I could live vicariously even more through his experience, though I was not trying in any way to recruit him to this lifestyle, though he did need to develop an understanding of what it meant. My daughter learned to drive a Mercedes but she is clearly cisAmerican too. My near-redemption came when my wife indicated that she too wanted a Mercedes-Benz automobile, a diesel even! I knew then that acceptance of my true Germaness was at hand! I'm sure many of you have suspected this and I thank you for your understanding and acceptance of my decision to make it official! What really made it right for now was driving the ML350 Bluetech this weekend and just knowing it was sooo right! All my fears and apprehensions have evaporated, and I truly feel joy to announce officially and with great pride my transGermaning. I know we can't all be physically together to celebrate this big event in my life so I hope that you all can go start your cars today and think a bit about what this means to me, and to work hard for full transGerman acceptance in our society. Carry on! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wut I dun Lernt frum Wulding this week
Welding by any means leaves the metal hot, thus more fluid and available to be shaped via hammer/dolly. True, wire feed welds cool more quickly, however not instantly. You have several minutes to improve the shape of the patch, the edge fit, and to flatten the weld, which relieves stress from weld cooling and will break up slag, which improves your second pass weld. When welding sheet metal in the 18 gage or less thickness, fit at the weld joint is critical. a gap between the two pieces will cause you problems with the weld, burn through, and make a bad looking joint. This is why I much prefer the 1/4 inch punch hole, 1/2 in lap joint repair previously posted. The Cleco clamps hold the patch in position to give intimate contact which makes a good "rosette" weld [tack]. Followed by hammer/dolly to flatten and fit the patch to the hole being repaired even more closely. I've used the same tecnique for both gas torch and wire feed welds on panel repair over the last 30 + years.. In my experience, it works best.. Trying to join two panels edge to edge takes skill levels far above the beginner stage. Your mileage may vary.. On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: > Hammering hot welds is done with oxyacetylene welding. It is not suitable > for mig or wire feed welding as the puddle cools too quickly. > If you want to undo the distortion caused to the metal by the shrinking > effect of the weld, grind the weld down on both sides and then hammer on > dolly over the seam. This stretches the metal and removes the distortion. > Only hammer on the weld line and 1/4 inch above and below! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 15, 2015, at 7:44 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > The weld, hammer/dolly, weld technique is one that requires practice. > > Location of hammer / dolly is critical so you develop muscle memory as it > > becomes automatic.. also, Harbor Freight makes a dandy device that holds > > the welding torch. It is magnetic on one end, so it attaches it's self to > > nearby metal, and the part that holds the torch keeps it and it's hot end > > out of your way. It is just a piece of flat stock with a hole in it.. one > > side of the hole is cut to a slot.. you slip the torch in through the > slot > > and "release it" and it "hangs there" ready to pick back up.. very clever > > and handy.. about $6 as I recall. > > > > Hammering the weld will also break up the slag, which sets you proper for > > next tack weld. > > > > It works particularly well if you use the punch hole / lap joint process > I > > first described.. > > > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:56 PM, clay via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > >> The machine is made to handle only 0.030 and 0.035 flux. The feed > wheels > >> flip over to accept one or the other. Crank down barely grasps the > 0.030 > >> enough to feed at lowest speeds. > >> > >> I am thinking your advice to hammer the hot puddle may require a third > and > >> forth hand. I should be able to find something like that > >> > >> clay > >> > >> > >>> On Jun 14, 2015, at 9:54 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > >>> > >>> Question I failed to ask: > >>> > >>> What diameter wire are you using? .020, .030 or .035 ? > >>> > >>> To use the .020 wire, you will need to change the wheel gap adjustment > to > >>> fit the smaller wire AND change the wire guide in the business end of > the > >>> torch to fit the smaller wire. > >>> > >>> Smaller wire will give you a hotter, smaller weld puddle, so you will > >> need > >>> to change your speed of torch movement to adapt. However, with smaller > >>> wire, you should get a weld puddle that is more correct size for > thinner > >>> sheet metal. If you have an amperage adjustment, crank it down for the > >>> smaller wire. > >>> > >>> Again, do spot welds, Hammer and dolly the welds while still red, which > >>> will flatten the weld joint and make better contact, thus better > welds.. > >>> Your "tack weld" should be 1/8 to 1/4 inch long, so as you work the > panel > >>> into position [tack on one side.. hammer/dolly to flatten tack the > >>> other side .. hammer/dolly to flatten.. As you work around the repair.. > >>> soon you have the patch "contained" with the weld joint overlap nice > and > >>> flat from "hammer / dolly" and on the second pass.. instead of tack > >> welds 4 > >>> inches apart.. go in between the 4 inch tacks.. same routine.. so on > >> second > >>> pass you have a tack ever 2 inches.. repeat as necessary.. > >>> > >>> Soon you have a good repair. > >>> > >>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 6:26 PM, clay via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > I actually read the destructions that came with the zapper. I > followed > the set up to the letter and even made sure the wheels were in the > >> proper > orientation for the wire I was using. There are no teeth to the > wheels > that would provide decent bite. Just some knurling like you would > find > >>
Re: [MBZ] More on welding learnings
So he was bd? --R On 6/16/15 12:28 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Get the Certificate. It will look good on the kitchen wall when SWMBO has the doctor buddies over. A guy I know at a CC who was in change of continuing ed had a sheep seller's licence on the wall. He never sold sheep, but he was one of 3 people in the state licensed to sell 'em. He did it as a lark. A few years later the state revoked his license because they figgered out he never sold any sheep. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ?
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Re: [MBZ] ?
No failure. W ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ?
The sun is coming up, I'm getting out of work. I tried the Chinese breakfast at the hotel restaurant yesterday. It was some kind of rice gruel, like thick oatmeal, with chicken breast, fried wonton strips, a century egg which was cut into 8ths radially from the top down and some kind of tasty sauce. Everything was good except the century egg which turned my stomach although I'm not sure why. I think its a mental thing. I did eat most of the egg, and most of the other stuff around it which was delicious. I haven't decided what to have today yet, I'm thinking my favorites are the Filipino breakfast which has crispy pork and the cinnamon roll french toast. -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes To: mercedes list Cc: WILTON Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 5:31 PM Subject: [MBZ] ? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ?
In Chinese that is called something like "jook" --R On 6/16/15 6:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I tried the Chinese breakfast at the hotel restaurant yesterday. It was some kind of rice gruel, like thick oatmeal, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Allen Edmonds Tent Sale
It's underway in Port Washington. I just bought a pair of shoes named after my favorite president for $197 from the Ohio outlet store, but they can't ring them up until the sale officially starts tomorrow. http://www.shoebank.com/FactorySecondInventory.php?STY=7635S&DIM=E&SIZE=100 I'm not sure what's going on, the sale was advertised to start on the 18th, but the tent is up in Port Washington, the sales prices are up at shoebank.com, and anybody can walk up to the factory tent and buy them at the sale price, or call an outlet store and reserve them for tomorrow at the sale price. That's my third pair of $150 wingtips this year. The others were first quality $295 shoes, these are seconds quality $495 shoes. Now that I have black, grey, and walnut, I suppose I'm set until I get a good deal on some wingtip boots or something in burgundy or oxblood. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wut I dun Lernt frum Wulding this week
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:26:51 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > 4130 shows up mostly in tubing no? The flywheel shaft in our propane-fired Chevette engine powered generator was turned from a piece of 6" 4130 round stock. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 evapectomy
7 years since my evapectomy and still cooling nicely; did very well on 100-mile trip on 95-degree day last Sun, and no bubbles visible in sight glass. Fingers still crossed, though. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:03:30 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > 7 years since my evapectomy and still cooling nicely; did very well on > 100-mile trip on 95-degree day last Sun, and no bubbles visible in > sight glass. ATTABOY, WILTON!!! > Fingers still crossed, though. Oh. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Today's Cluster
Got the wife’s former 2005 Mazda 6s all gussied up and Martha’ed yesterday. Took pictures last night, posted ad on CL and got a flood of responses. First guy the responds back to me from the inquiries I got says he’ll be right over to check the car out. He sounds nice and solid. He shows up with son in tow, they look the car over, take it for a drive, come back and give me my asking price. Nice. I’m on the phone with the insurance company canceling the policy on the car, and I keep getting these bursts of tone/static/whatever on the phone. I chalk it up the insurance company routing me through a call center in Bangalore to speak with “Andy” to determine where to route my call. I finish up and look at the phone and notice that the guy who bought the car has been trying to call me. Hmm. I call him back. He says the car is running poorly and acting funny. Not good. I tell him to get back to my house ASAP and he can have his money back, as I’m not about to sell a car with issues. He says OK, and I pace in front of the garage waiting for him to return. He gets back and I put the OBDII reader on the car. P0305 - bum ignition coil (COPs) on the #5 cylinder. Dammit. “Can you fix it while we wait?” "Nope. Here is your money, sorry for the inconvenience.” “But I want the car. My son wants the car.” “I don’t sell cars with issues. I stand behind anything I sell, and if I’m not confident it’s good, I am not going to sell it to someone.” Long story short, he still wants the car. It’s a graduation gift for his son, and the kid was obviously smitten with it. I went out to FLAPS and got a new coil, took me all of five minutes to swap (thank goodness it’s one of the ones in front!) and then road tested the car on surface streets and the interstate without it missing a lick. I’m going to send it over to the local stealer to give the once-over tomorrow and I’ll go ahead and sell it to him. Dang, I felt like to real dick when he brought the car back. I felt worse for his son. I think the guy was so impressed with my honesty that he was even more convinced he wanted the car. I would’t have been able to sleep if he had taken it the way it was and chalked things up to experience. How do car salesmen do it? They must not have consciences. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster
Given the situation, I would have taken the buyer to FLAPS, showed him how to replace a coil, and told him to come back if that didn't fix it. I suspect once they start going, he'll be replacing one or two a year for the next 3-5 years. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster
Mazda Martha writes: >How do car salesmen do it? They >must not have consciences. Used car salesmen and criminal attorneys (present company excepted) are cut from the same cloth. Borderline psychopaths. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201401/how-tell-sociopath-psychopath Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Dan Penoff" Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:57 PM Subject: [MBZ] Today's Cluster Got the wife’s former 2005 Mazda 6s all gussied up and Martha’ed yesterday. Took pictures last night, posted ad on CL and got a flood of responses. First guy the responds back to me from the inquiries I got says he’ll be right over to check the car out. He sounds nice and solid. He shows up with son in tow, they look the car over, take it for a drive, come back and give me my asking price. Nice. I’m on the phone with the insurance company canceling the policy on the car, and I keep getting these bursts of tone/static/whatever on the phone. I chalk it up the insurance company routing me through a call center in Bangalore to speak with “Andy” to determine where to route my call. I finish up and look at the phone and notice that the guy who bought the car has been trying to call me. Hmm. I call him back. He says the car is running poorly and acting funny. Not good. I tell him to get back to my house ASAP and he can have his money back, as I’m not about to sell a car with issues. He says OK, and I pace in front of the garage waiting for him to return. He gets back and I put the OBDII reader on the car. P0305 - bum ignition coil (COPs) on the #5 cylinder. Dammit. “Can you fix it while we wait?” "Nope. Here is your money, sorry for the inconvenience.” “But I want the car. My son wants the car.” “I don’t sell cars with issues. I stand behind anything I sell, and if I’m not confident it’s good, I am not going to sell it to someone.” Long story short, he still wants the car. It’s a graduation gift for his son, and the kid was obviously smitten with it. I went out to FLAPS and got a new coil, took me all of five minutes to swap (thank goodness it’s one of the ones in front!) and then road tested the car on surface streets and the interstate without it missing a lick. I’m going to send it over to the local stealer to give the once-over tomorrow and I’ll go ahead and sell it to him. Dang, I felt like to real dick when he brought the car back. I felt worse for his son. I think the guy was so impressed with my honesty that he was even more convinced he wanted the car. I would’t have been able to sleep if he had taken it the way it was and chalked things up to experience. How do car salesmen do it? They must not have consciences. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Not 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel
Not mine and not '87 or '88 W123.More like '83 '84 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. From: ro...@craigslist.org To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com Subject: 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 02:48:14 + fred.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist: 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/5075317850.html If you don't want to receive email-a-friend messages, please go to: https://accounts.craigslist.org/eafprefs/U2FsdGVkX18yNDczNzI0N3xW9GFAVbSYbaYMjzeAsBYYnjGqbXdmMuhMIRi7mzMhQ5fBHV8k1coNJ5P1NksM3w ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel
Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/5075317850.html Interesting. The black one might have self leveling suspension. The blue one obviously hasn't been level in years. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Allen Edmonds Tent Sale
You must have meant these, Mitch: http://www.shoebuy.com/spring-step-clinton/594988/1224826?cm_mmc=googleproductads_pla-_-none-_-none-_-none On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It's underway in Port Washington. > I just bought a pair of shoes named after my favorite president for $197 > from the Ohio outlet store, but they can't ring them up until the sale > officially starts tomorrow. > http://www.shoebank.com/FactorySecondInventory.php?STY=7635S&DIM=E&SIZE=100 > > I'm not sure what's going on, the sale was advertised to start on the > 18th, but the tent is up in Port Washington, the sales prices are up at > shoebank.com, and anybody can walk up to the factory tent and buy them at > the sale price, or call an outlet store and reserve them for tomorrow at > the sale price. > > That's my third pair of $150 wingtips this year. The others were first > quality $295 shoes, these are seconds quality $495 shoes. > Now that I have black, grey, and walnut, I suppose I'm set until I get a > good deal on some wingtip boots or something in burgundy or oxblood. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's Cluster
I want to buy something from Dan - anything. Even if I don't need/want it. On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:03 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > ATTABOY! > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Cc: "Dan Penoff" > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:57 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Today's Cluster > > > > Got the wife’s former 2005 Mazda 6s all gussied up and Martha’ed >> yesterday. Took pictures last night, posted ad on CL and got a flood of >> responses. >> >> First guy the responds back to me from the inquiries I got says he’ll be >> right over to check the car out. He sounds nice and solid. He shows up >> with son in tow, they look the car over, take it for a drive, come back and >> give me my asking price. Nice. >> >> I’m on the phone with the insurance company canceling the policy on the >> car, and I keep getting these bursts of tone/static/whatever on the phone. >> I chalk it up the insurance company routing me through a call center in >> Bangalore to speak with “Andy” to determine where to route my call. >> >> I finish up and look at the phone and notice that the guy who bought the >> car has been trying to call me. Hmm. I call him back. >> >> He says the car is running poorly and acting funny. Not good. I tell >> him to get back to my house ASAP and he can have his money back, as I’m not >> about to sell a car with issues. He says OK, and I pace in front of the >> garage waiting for him to return. >> >> He gets back and I put the OBDII reader on the car. P0305 - bum ignition >> coil (COPs) on the #5 cylinder. Dammit. >> >> “Can you fix it while we wait?” >> >> "Nope. Here is your money, sorry for the inconvenience.” >> >> “But I want the car. My son wants the car.” >> >> “I don’t sell cars with issues. I stand behind anything I sell, and if >> I’m not confident it’s good, I am not going to sell it to someone.” >> >> Long story short, he still wants the car. It’s a graduation gift for his >> son, and the kid was obviously smitten with it. >> >> I went out to FLAPS and got a new coil, took me all of five minutes to >> swap (thank goodness it’s one of the ones in front!) and then road tested >> the car on surface streets and the interstate without it missing a lick. >> I’m going to send it over to the local stealer to give the once-over >> tomorrow and I’ll go ahead and sell it to him. >> >> Dang, I felt like to real dick when he brought the car back. I felt >> worse for his son. I think the guy was so impressed with my honesty that he >> was even more convinced he wanted the car. I would’t have been able to >> sleep if he had taken it the way it was and chalked things up to experience. >> >> How do car salesmen do it? They must not have consciences. >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel
The baby blue color is extremely rare on a 123 wagon. What's it's called? On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: > > 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel >> http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/5075317850.html >> > > Interesting. The black one might have self leveling suspension. > The blue one obviously hasn't been level in years. > > Mitch. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel
Oxidized Lapis blue? The baby blue color is extremely rare on a 123 wagon. What's it's called? On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel >> http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/5075317850.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel
I'm not excited by either one of the TD's, however, I would be very interested in the Cub LeBoy tractor setting behind in one of the pics.. Wonder if he wants to sell that? On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Oxidized Lapis blue? > > > The baby blue color is extremely rare on a 123 wagon. What's it's called? >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> 87 and 88 Mercedes Turbo Diesel >>> >> >> http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/5075317850.html >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
