Re: [MBZ] comvetable

[MG via Mercedes]

Doesn't say he won't read the emails or 
texts, just says he won't respond to them. 
Wouldn't help me none since I don't have a 
"comtact" number.

I wonder where you would get one of them?

Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

How does he expect a "comtact" number to be sent, Semaphore?  Telegram?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 3:40 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I WILL NOT RESPOND TO TEXT OR EMAILS

On 1/14/19 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Tweetie Pie floor mats.  Are those OEM?

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 2:37 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

IF YOUR INTERESTED CALL ME OR SEND ME A COMTACT NUMER



https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mount-pleasant-2001-mercedes-benz-slk230/6793918748.html

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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Nice window bus, what what will it cost to restore, €200,000?

That crawler looks like it just rolled off the factory floor. 
Still has green paint on the tracks even. 

Mitch. 


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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Agreed.  Just like the Amish guys we used for moving equipment. Amazing what 
they could do with some bottle jacks, A frame, come-alongs, big honkin’ levers 
and lots of cribbing.

-D


> On Jan 15, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I want that car hauler trailer. I want that big green truck and crawler 
> thing. 
> 
> But ima gonna tell you what, coupla ol boy’s with 4x4s n chains n chainsaws 
> enna case a beer’d have at hulk outta there inna coupla ars wiffout all that 
> fancy stuff. 
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2019, at 11:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Just bumped into this while looking for Mercedes bus stuff... Thought the
>> group would like to see what you can do when you have an "Unlimited AAA"
>> towing card..
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeXFyr612oU
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ...

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I want that car hauler trailer. I want that big green truck and crawler thing. 

But ima gonna tell you what, coupla ol boy’s with 4x4s n chains n chainsaws 
enna case a beer’d have at hulk outta there inna coupla ars wiffout all that 
fancy stuff. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2019, at 11:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just bumped into this while looking for Mercedes bus stuff... Thought the
> group would like to see what you can do when you have an "Unlimited AAA"
> towing card..
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeXFyr612oU
> 
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 4:29 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> (or maybe something I need ...)
>> 
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1977-great-dane-st45/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The living quarters were remodeled in 1993 with Pace Arrow motorhome
>> components. The kitchen area has refrigerator/freezer, sink, stove,
>> oven, microwave, pots and utensils, and lots of storage. The three bunks
>> are approximately 3’x8'.
>> 
>> It has a full bathroom including a full size shower. Living quarters are
>> clean, in very good condition, air conditioned and have remote start for
>> generator and air compressor.
>> 
>> Additional features include air-ride suspension, air conditioning, an 18′
>> power liftgate, a 10,000-watt Onan generator, water and fuel tanks, and
>> more.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I saw this vid a few weeks back, maybe someone posted it here, or it was 
on FB or something -- anyway, about 200 Amish guys get inside this 
smallish house maybe 700-800sqft, I guess the flooring had been pulled 
up, but they picked the whole thing up, rotated it, and walked it over 
40 or 50ft to a new foundation and dropped it down.  There were a coupla 
guys outside yelling instructions. It was crazy.


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On 1/15/19 9:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Agreed.  Just like the Amish guys we used for moving equipment. Amazing what 
they could do with some bottle jacks, A frame, come-alongs, big honkin’ levers 
and lots of cribbing.

-D



On Jan 15, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I want that car hauler trailer. I want that big green truck and crawler thing.

But ima gonna tell you what, coupla ol boy’s with 4x4s n chains n chainsaws 
enna case a beer’d have at hulk outta there inna coupla ars wiffout all that 
fancy stuff.

--R
Sent from iPhone


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Just bumped into this while looking for Mercedes bus stuff... Thought the
group would like to see what you can do when you have an "Unlimited AAA"
towing card..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeXFyr612oU



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Re: [MBZ] Decent Canadian 1990 560 SEC on BAT

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Bid to $8800 but not sold.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-Mercedes-Benz-CLS-Class/192789045841?hash=item2ce31f6251:g:p5MAAOSwNM5cOocf:rk:4:pf:0=mtr

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 1:52 PM Andrew Strasfogel 
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> If it is a seriously good buy, then fly up and put it into storage through
> the spring, Then fly there again and take a vacation as if it were a new
> European delivery Mercedes.  Eventually, you would drive it home.
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 1:40 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>
>> Snow+ice+kid+560SEC=ditch excursion
>>
>> --FT
>>
>> On 1/14/19 1:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> > Hire a Calgary kid who wants to visit Charleston to drive it down.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 1:12 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Looks pretty nice and the price could be right. Now how would I
>> > get it from Canada to the vast estate...
>> >
>> > --FT
>> > Sent from iPhone
>> >
>> > > On Jan 14, 2019, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Auction ending today but bidding hasn't gone anywhere. Go figure.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-mercedes-benz-560sec-11/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2019-01-14
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 1:59 PM Andrew Strasfogel
>> > mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Lovely color and obviously been well cared for. It's in Calgary
>> > but as a
>> > >> community service Randy could drive across the prairie to do a
>> > PPI if
>> > >> anyone is interested.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Is it just me, or are German forests kept /in ordnung/ just like 
everything else?  Do they have forest clean-up crews come in to groom 
them every few weeks?  Mow and trim, spread some new mulch around?  I 
guess it is good for fire suppression.


You will need a yellow vest to go with the blue jumpsuit.  (You can take 
it on a visit to France too)


--FT

On 1/15/19 11:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I just want one of those blue monkey suits.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 9:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Agreed.  Just like the Amish guys we used for moving equipment. Amazing
what they could do with some bottle jacks, A frame, come-alongs, big
honkin’ levers and lots of cribbing.

-D



On Jan 15, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <

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I want that car hauler trailer. I want that big green truck and crawler

thing.

But ima gonna tell you what, coupla ol boy’s with 4x4s n chains n

chainsaws enna case a beer’d have at hulk outta there inna coupla ars
wiffout all that fancy stuff.

--R
Sent from iPhone


On Jan 14, 2019, at 11:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <

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Just bumped into this while looking for Mercedes bus stuff... Thought

the

group would like to see what you can do when you have an "Unlimited AAA"
towing card..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeXFyr612oU



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Re: [MBZ] I like this guy

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Very helpful!! I now know how to manage my fleet MUCH more efficiently.
Only thing I can't seem to do is follow his "one car in/ one car out" rule.

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> but he sorta dissed the SL600, though he has a nice vid about it
>
> I want his garage.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

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You need 3 dots 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m not sure anyone here will know this, but I’m trying to identify the 
> proper spring pads for the compensating spring on my 220SEb. The spring has a 
> red and yellow paint mark on it. However, the service manual only identifies 
> red, white and blue paint marks - no yellow - to select the proper spring 
> pads to use.
> 
> Anyone have any experience with this or know of a resource that might help me 
> identify the proper spring pads to use?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -D
> 
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[MBZ] No stupid offers, all will be ignored

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This could be fun, recognizing the potential issues... but kinda out of 
my range.  I have admired the CLS style though


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mount-pleasant-2007-mercedes-cls63-amg/6793360570.html

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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I just want one of those blue monkey suits.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 9:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Agreed.  Just like the Amish guys we used for moving equipment. Amazing
> what they could do with some bottle jacks, A frame, come-alongs, big
> honkin’ levers and lots of cribbing.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 15, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I want that car hauler trailer. I want that big green truck and crawler
> thing.
> >
> > But ima gonna tell you what, coupla ol boy’s with 4x4s n chains n
> chainsaws enna case a beer’d have at hulk outta there inna coupla ars
> wiffout all that fancy stuff.
> >
> > --R
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 14, 2019, at 11:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just bumped into this while looking for Mercedes bus stuff... Thought
> the
> >> group would like to see what you can do when you have an "Unlimited AAA"
> >> towing card..
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeXFyr612oU
> >>
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[MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’m not sure anyone here will know this, but I’m trying to identify the proper 
spring pads for the compensating spring on my 220SEb. The spring has a red and 
yellow paint mark on it. However, the service manual only identifies red, white 
and blue paint marks - no yellow - to select the proper spring pads to use.

Anyone have any experience with this or know of a resource that might help me 
identify the proper spring pads to use?

Thanks,

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Did the car come equipped with a rear axle compensator?  If so then you
should seriously consider acquiring one to replace the spring; you will
ride in smooth comfort just like a dictator.

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> You need 3 dots
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 15, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I’m not sure anyone here will know this, but I’m trying to identify the
> proper spring pads for the compensating spring on my 220SEb. The spring has
> a red and yellow paint mark on it. However, the service manual only
> identifies red, white and blue paint marks - no yellow - to select the
> proper spring pads to use.
> >
> > Anyone have any experience with this or know of a resource that might
> help me identify the proper spring pads to use?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

And to tow it... Mercedes Powered!

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/santee-2005-freightliner/6794593806.html

--FT

On 1/14/19 6:28 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

(or maybe something I need ...)

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1977-great-dane-st45/



The living quarters were remodeled in 1993 with Pace Arrow motorhome
components. The kitchen area has refrigerator/freezer, sink, stove,
oven, microwave, pots and utensils, and lots of storage. The three bunks
are approximately 3’x8'.

It has a full bathroom including a full size shower. Living quarters are
clean, in very good condition, air conditioned and have remote start for
generator and air compressor.

Additional features include air-ride suspension, air conditioning, an 18′
power liftgate, a 10,000-watt Onan generator, water and fuel tanks, and
more.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] No stupid offers, all will be ignored

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

He's right about the price.  On ebay they are mostly in the $20s.  Here's
one for about $19K
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-Mercedes-Benz-CLS-Class/192789045841?hash=item2ce31f6251:g:p5MAAOSwNM5cOocf:rk:4:pf:0=mtr


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> This could be fun, recognizing the potential issues... but kinda out of
> my range.  I have admired the CLS style though
>
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mount-pleasant-2007-mercedes-cls63-amg/6793360570.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Here a guy says the head gaskets leak after the dealer fixes them, so it's up 
to the driver to tear it apart, have the heads resurfaced, and put it back 
together right. 
The problem seems to be that four bolts aren't enough to secure a head on a 2L 
turbo diesel cylinder, at least not one that you expect to stay together for 
500,000 miles. 

https://www.thetruckersreport.com/truckingindustryforum/threads/mercedes-mbe-4000-problems.110252/

> > And to tow it... Mercedes Powered!

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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 15, 2019 at 11:25 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> And to tow it... Mercedes Powered!

In case anybody is thinking of buying one, this is the prevailing line of 
thought on the MBE 4000:

It was a bad engine. I don't think you can even get one any more in a truck. 
You don't want to buy a truck with that engine. 

https://www.thetruckersreport.com/truckingindustryforum/threads/mbe-4000-engine-looking-for-reviews.444060/

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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 15, 2019 at 11:40 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> You will need a yellow vest to go with the blue jumpsuit.  (You can take 
> it on a visit to France too)

Dutch chick tried pushing a stroller down the sidewalk while wearing a yellow 
vest. 
They arrested her. 
EU doesn't have our Constitution. 

https://weresist.org/2019/01/06/police-in-netherlands-caught-on-video-arresting-young-mother-with-baby-stroller-for-not-removing-yellow-protest-vest/

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[MBZ] I like this guy

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

but he sorta dissed the SL600, though he has a nice vid about it

I want his garage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCuexUZOKK8=em-uploademail

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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It might have, I haven’t determined this.

However, the only compensators available are rebuilt ones for more than half 
the cost of the car, and you have to provide the core for rebuilding.

Not an option I’m interested in pursuing.

-D


> On Jan 15, 2019, at 11:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> Did the car come equipped with a rear axle compensator?  If so then you
> should seriously consider acquiring one to replace the spring; you will
> ride in smooth comfort just like a dictator.
> 
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:12 AM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> You need 3 dots
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m not sure anyone here will know this, but I’m trying to identify the
>> proper spring pads for the compensating spring on my 220SEb. The spring has
>> a red and yellow paint mark on it. However, the service manual only
>> identifies red, white and blue paint marks - no yellow - to select the
>> proper spring pads to use.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have any experience with this or know of a resource that might
>> help me identify the proper spring pads to use?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ... Amish guys

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

80 Amish guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl5bqHQ4YrY

--FT

On 1/15/19 12:29 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 15/01/2019 8:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Agreed.  Just like the Amish guys we used for moving equipment. 
Amazing what they could do with some bottle jacks, A frame, 
come-alongs, big honkin’ levers and lots of cribbing.


-D



That is what I need but we don't have any Amish around here. 
Hutterites and Mennonites but not Amish so far as I know.


I need to lift and level my house. An addition on one side is down 
about 2 to 3 inches on the outer edge.


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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ...

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Once the trees get big like that if its densely forested you really don't have 
to trim under them. Mine are getting to the point that the branches near the 
ground just touch on trees 9 feet apart. Eventually some of them will be 
trimmed up to 18', once the touching branches get above 6 feet I won't have to 
mow anymore since there really won't be much light for anything to grow 
underneath.I don't intend to trim them all but trees that are trimmed bring a 
premium because you can get long, knot free, boards. We'll see how I feel, last 
fall I trimmed a couple so I could keep lanes open, the deer have heavily 
tracked where I trimmed so I guess thats a good thing.
 9' is the common spacing for lumber trees, for pulpwood its 6' and you don't 
have to trim.
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 11:41:43 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Is it just me, or are German forests kept /in ordnung/ just like 
everything else?  Do they have forest clean-up crews come in to groom 
them every few weeks?  Mow and trim, spread some new mulch around?  I 
guess it is good for fire suppression.

You will need a yellow vest to go with the blue jumpsuit.  (You can take 
it on a visit to France too)

--FT

On 1/15/19 11:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> I just want one of those blue monkey suits.
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 9:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Agreed.  Just like the Amish guys we used for moving equipment. Amazing
>> what they could do with some bottle jacks, A frame, come-alongs, big
>> honkin’ levers and lots of cribbing.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> I want that car hauler trailer. I want that big green truck and crawler
>> thing.
>>> But ima gonna tell you what, coupla ol boy’s with 4x4s n chains n
>> chainsaws enna case a beer’d have at hulk outta there inna coupla ars
>> wiffout all that fancy stuff.
>>> --R
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>>
 On Jan 14, 2019, at 11:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 Just bumped into this while looking for Mercedes bus stuff... Thought
>> the
 group would like to see what you can do when you have an "Unlimited AAA"
 towing card..

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeXFyr612oU

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Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Denial needs to trade his Silver Arrow for one. 
There were only 30 of these, makes it more of a rarity than the Silver Arrow. 
http://www.oursl.com/NewsLetter/NL0801/1997_SL500.htm
Mitch. 
> On January 15, 2019 at 1:25 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Garish interior!
> 
> https://www.benzworld.org/forums/r129-sl-class/1357978-1997-sl500-la-costa-special-edition.html
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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I got an answer from one of my finnie forum buddies.

Seems that yellow paint was used on the production lines as an inspection mark, 
so it can be ignored.

That means I have a red paint mark.

According to the service manual table for spring spacers, I need a 6mm for the 
left (driver’s) side and a 3mm for the right.

There are only two spacers available for the compensating spring, 3mm and 6mm.

Problem solved!

-D


> On Jan 15, 2019, at 1:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Whuts Pierre say?I'd buy 2 ea. 8mm, 2 10mm, and 2 12mm and use the best  
> combination of that you have compared to what you take out.
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 1/15/19 10:08 AM:
>> I’m not sure anyone here will know this, but I’m trying to identify the 
>> proper spring pads for the compensating spring on my 220SEb. The spring has 
>> a red and yellow paint mark on it. However, the service manual only 
>> identifies red, white and blue paint marks - no yellow - to select the 
>> proper spring pads to use.
>> 
>> Anyone have any experience with this or know of a resource that might help 
>> me identify the proper spring pads to use?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

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Now that I think about it, maybe it’s because the pivot point for the swing 
axle is on one side of the rear axle assembly, not in the center?

-D


> On Jan 15, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why would it be asymmetric?
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 1/15/19 1:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I got an answer from one of my finnie forum buddies.
>> 
>> Seems that yellow paint was used on the production lines as an inspection 
>> mark, so it can be ignored.
>> 
>> That means I have a red paint mark.
>> 
>> According to the service manual table for spring spacers, I need a 6mm for 
>> the left (driver’s) side and a 3mm for the right.
>> 
>> There are only two spacers available for the compensating spring, 3mm and 
>> 6mm.
>> 
>> Problem solved!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

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On 15/01/2019 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I’m not sure anyone here will know this, but I’m trying to identify the proper 
spring pads for the compensating spring on my 220SEb. The spring has a red and 
yellow paint mark on it. However, the service manual only identifies red, white 
and blue paint marks - no yellow - to select the proper spring pads to use.

Anyone have any experience with this or know of a resource that might help me 
identify the proper spring pads to use?

Thanks,

-D


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[MBZ] This is interesting

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Garish interior!

https://www.benzworld.org/forums/r129-sl-class/1357978-1997-sl500-la-costa-special-edition.html

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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ... Amish guys

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Its pretty easy to do, buy a bottle jack, and 4x4.We bought tiles to replace 
the floor in Angie's parents kitchen, then I noticed the floor was all bowed. 
Her parents were very evasive about us doing it so one Sunday Angie took her 
mom to church and I said "Hey Larry, I happen to have a jack in the truck, lets 
level this floor.
Turns out the floor had been leveled with:1. A 4" ash tree that had splitandB. 
A 2x4 that was bowed 4"
I replaced them with 3 steel leveling posts.
A guy gave me a 12 ton jack a few years ago, it made short work of the job. A 4 
ton will work but the extra capacity means you don't have to work so hard...
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 12:30:04 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On 15/01/2019 8:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Agreed.  Just like the Amish guys we used for moving equipment. Amazing what 
> they could do with some bottle jacks, A frame, come-alongs, big honkin’ 
> levers and lots of cribbing.
>
> -D
>

That is what I need but we don't have any Amish around here. Hutterites 
and Mennonites but not Amish so far as I know.

I need to lift and level my house. An addition on one side is down about 
2 to 3 inches on the outer edge.

RB


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[MBZ] Andrew's next BMW.

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Just the ticket for hopping over DC traffic...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2012-bmw-r1200gs-rallye/

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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Having seen the photos of the differential setup on the car, that was 
sort of my thought as well. They are likely compensating for the offset 
on the differential.
Another simpler answer might be that they thought the car might most 
often be driven with only the driver on board and were compensating for 
the additional weight on the driver's side.


RB

On 15/01/2019 2:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Now that I think about it, maybe it’s because the pivot point for the swing 
axle is on one side of the rear axle assembly, not in the center?

-D



On Jan 15, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Why would it be asymmetric?

--FT

On 1/15/19 1:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I got an answer from one of my finnie forum buddies.

Seems that yellow paint was used on the production lines as an inspection mark, 
so it can be ignored.

That means I have a red paint mark.

According to the service manual table for spring spacers, I need a 6mm for the 
left (driver’s) side and a 3mm for the right.

There are only two spacers available for the compensating spring, 3mm and 6mm.

Problem solved!

-D





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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ... Amish guys

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On 15/01/2019 8:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Agreed.  Just like the Amish guys we used for moving equipment. Amazing what 
they could do with some bottle jacks, A frame, come-alongs, big honkin’ levers 
and lots of cribbing.

-D



That is what I need but we don't have any Amish around here. Hutterites 
and Mennonites but not Amish so far as I know.


I need to lift and level my house. An addition on one side is down about 
2 to 3 inches on the outer edge.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ...

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Maybe one needs to do like the F250 diesel repairs for blown head 
gaskets.  Swap the bolts for head studs. For whatever reason, they hold 
better. Maybe better quality steel so they don't stretch as readily.


RB

On 15/01/2019 10:41 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Here a guy says the head gaskets leak after the dealer fixes them, so it's up 
to the driver to tear it apart, have the heads resurfaced, and put it back 
together right.
The problem seems to be that four bolts aren't enough to secure a head on a 2L 
turbo diesel cylinder, at least not one that you expect to stay together for 
500,000 miles.

https://www.thetruckersreport.com/truckingindustryforum/threads/mercedes-mbe-4000-problems.110252/


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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Classic Center will go to the book as I have, nothing there.

Hadn’t thought about Pierre as I don’t like to abuse my relationship with him. 
That’s one I’ll keep in my pocket if I can’t find out anyplace else.


-D


> On Jan 15, 2019, at 12:31 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 15/01/2019 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I’m not sure anyone here will know this, but I’m trying to identify the 
>> proper spring pads for the compensating spring on my 220SEb. The spring has 
>> a red and yellow paint mark on it. However, the service manual only 
>> identifies red, white and blue paint marks - no yellow - to select the 
>> proper spring pads to use.
>> 
>> Anyone have any experience with this or know of a resource that might help 
>> me identify the proper spring pads to use?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ...

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I know the german oaks are managed on a 400 year crop cycle.   I would 
not be surprised it the timber floors are kept clean.   My grandfather 
did.   I used controlled burning to clear the junk.   Oaks thrive on 
fire.  The state forester told me so.   From what I observed, I believe 
he was right.   Longleaf pines thrive on far too.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 1/15/19 10:40 AM:
Is it just me, or are German forests kept /in ordnung/ just like 
everything else?  Do they have forest clean-up crews come in to groom 
them every few weeks?  Mow and trim, spread some new mulch around?  I 
guess it is good for fire suppression.


You will need a yellow vest to go with the blue jumpsuit.  (You can 
take it on a visit to France too)


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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

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Good question, and one I don’t know the answer to. But those wacky Germans who 
designed it must have had a reason or they wouldn’t have gone to the trouble of 
making two different pads.

-D


> On Jan 15, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why would it be asymmetric?
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 1/15/19 1:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I got an answer from one of my finnie forum buddies.
>> 
>> Seems that yellow paint was used on the production lines as an inspection 
>> mark, so it can be ignored.
>> 
>> That means I have a red paint mark.
>> 
>> According to the service manual table for spring spacers, I need a 6mm for 
>> the left (driver’s) side and a 3mm for the right.
>> 
>> There are only two spacers available for the compensating spring, 3mm and 
>> 6mm.
>> 
>> Problem solved!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 1:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Whuts Pierre say?I'd buy 2 ea. 8mm, 2 10mm, and 2 12mm and use the best 
>>>  combination of that you have compared to what you take out.
>>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 1/15/19 10:08 AM:
 I’m not sure anyone here will know this, but I’m trying to identify the 
 proper spring pads for the compensating spring on my 220SEb. The spring 
 has a red and yellow paint mark on it. However, the service manual only 
 identifies red, white and blue paint marks - no yellow - to select the 
 proper spring pads to use.
 
 Anyone have any experience with this or know of a resource that might help 
 me identify the proper spring pads to use?
 
 Thanks,
 
 -D
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

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Why would it be asymmetric?

--FT

On 1/15/19 1:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I got an answer from one of my finnie forum buddies.

Seems that yellow paint was used on the production lines as an inspection mark, 
so it can be ignored.

That means I have a red paint mark.

According to the service manual table for spring spacers, I need a 6mm for the 
left (driver’s) side and a 3mm for the right.

There are only two spacers available for the compensating spring, 3mm and 6mm.

Problem solved!

-D



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wrote:

Whuts Pierre say?I'd buy 2 ea. 8mm, 2 10mm, and 2 12mm and use the best  
combination of that you have compared to what you take out.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 1/15/19 10:08 AM:

I’m not sure anyone here will know this, but I’m trying to identify the proper 
spring pads for the compensating spring on my 220SEb. The spring has a red and 
yellow paint mark on it. However, the service manual only identifies red, white 
and blue paint marks - no yellow - to select the proper spring pads to use.

Anyone have any experience with this or know of a resource that might help me 
identify the proper spring pads to use?

Thanks,

-D




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Re: [MBZ] Alaska

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

So are you now in Alaska for the long term or are you just visiting for 
a bit?


RB

On 14/01/2019 10:02 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:

I need that!

Looks to be japanese edition, which would just rock it at club meets in BC.  
But it will be a bitch to drive here, let alone drive it down to the 49th 
parallel in the summer

clay




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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Whuts Pierre say?    I'd buy 2 ea. 8mm, 2 10mm, and 2 12mm and use the 
best  combination of that you have compared to what you take out.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 1/15/19 10:08 AM:

I’m not sure anyone here will know this, but I’m trying to identify the proper 
spring pads for the compensating spring on my 220SEb. The spring has a red and 
yellow paint mark on it. However, the service manual only identifies red, white 
and blue paint marks - no yellow - to select the proper spring pads to use.

Anyone have any experience with this or know of a resource that might help me 
identify the proper spring pads to use?

Thanks,

-D





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Re: [MBZ] I like this guy

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For my similar-sized fleet I only spent about 1% of what he did! I am so 
far ahead of the game!


--FT

On 1/15/19 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Very helpful!! I now know how to manage my fleet MUCH more 
efficiently.  Only thing I can't seem to do is follow his "one car in/ 
one car out" rule.


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:31 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


but he sorta dissed the SL600, though he has a nice vid about it

I want his garage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCuexUZOKK8=em-uploademail

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Re: [MBZ] Antenna mast for the SL600

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Can't tell if the plastic tail is toothed or smooth.  I think mine needs to
be smooth (1983 300TD).

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:13 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> I ordered 3 for less than $6 each, looks like they fit the 124, my
> daughter needs one too.
>
> --FT
>
> On 1/15/19 4:05 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
> > Then a coupla cheepcheep spares from China for $7 each
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aerial-Powe...75.c100623.m-1
> > <
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aerial-Power-Antenna-for-Mercedes-Benz-W140-W124-R129-92-02-Replacement-W8B7/362421157895?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3D89f7eb362eb6425c98bfda9422d40a83%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D230932241658%26itm%3D362421157895&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew's next BMW.

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I strongly disagree!  Mass. and PA drivers are way worse - MA drivers have
the highest insurance rates (or used to) and PA drivers tailgate
relentlessly.   I've lived here since '76 and have been involved in exactly
3 accidents - one was my fault.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:21 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:

> DC drivers are the worst, theres no flow, everyone for themselves. I've
> heard it said that its because many (most?) people there are from away and
> thus they don't understand American driving. New York and Boston drivers
> are aggressive but predictably so, mid-western drivers are predictably
> polite, in DC you can't predict anything...
>
> That said I really like the bike, if/when I get another bike it'll be an
> adventure bike like that.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 4:17:29 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
> Might consider one if I get sick of living...
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:30 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Just the ticket for hopping over DC traffic...
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Antenna mast for the SL600

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BZZZT. Wrong.

There are some that are “smooth” for the wheels and idler roller to grab, then 
there are ones that have teeth on one side for the other style wheel that has 
teeth.  Not sure which is newer or older.

-D

 
> On Jan 15, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think they all have the teeth if I recall from tearing into some of them.  
> Gives something for the wheels to grab
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 1/15/19 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> Can't tell if the plastic tail is toothed or smooth.  I think mine needs to 
>> be smooth (1983 300TD).
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:13 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>I ordered 3 for less than $6 each, looks like they fit the 124, my
>>daughter needs one too.
>> 
>>--FT
>> 
>>On 1/15/19 4:05 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
>>> Then a coupla cheepcheep spares from China for $7 each
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aerial-Powe...75.c100623.m-1
>>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Antenna mast for the SL600

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hmmm you might be correct, maybe the ones I recall dealing with were not 
the correct part or something.  or maybe my recollection is incorrect.


--FT

On 1/15/19 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

BZZZT. Wrong.

There are some that are “smooth” for the wheels and idler roller to grab, then 
there are ones that have teeth on one side for the other style wheel that has 
teeth.  Not sure which is newer or older.

-D

  

On Jan 15, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

I think they all have the teeth if I recall from tearing into some of them.  
Gives something for the wheels to grab

--FT

On 1/15/19 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Can't tell if the plastic tail is toothed or smooth.  I think mine needs to be 
smooth (1983 300TD).

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:13 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

I ordered 3 for less than $6 each, looks like they fit the 124, my
daughter needs one too.

--FT

On 1/15/19 4:05 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
> Then a coupla cheepcheep spares from China for $7 each
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aerial-Powe...75.c100623.m-1
>



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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

But, maybe in those countries that have right hand drive, the shims are 
reversed?
Maybe the engineers are just having fun? How much difference can 3mm 
make no matter what side the driver sits on or whether the axle is 
longer on one side etc?


RB


On 15/01/2019 4:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

The driver's side of the car varies by country - not all on the left.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:39 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Having seen the photos of the differential setup on the car, that was
sort of my thought as well. They are likely compensating for the offset
on the differential.
Another simpler answer might be that they thought the car might most
often be driven with only the driver on board and were compensating for
the additional weight on the driver's side.

RB

On 15/01/2019 2:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Now that I think about it, maybe it’s because the pivot point for the

swing axle is on one side of the rear axle assembly, not in the center?

-D



On Jan 15, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <

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Why would it be asymmetric?

--FT

On 1/15/19 1:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I got an answer from one of my finnie forum buddies.

Seems that yellow paint was used on the production lines as an

inspection mark, so it can be ignored.

That means I have a red paint mark.

According to the service manual table for spring spacers, I need a 6mm

for the left (driver’s) side and a 3mm for the right.

There are only two spacers available for the compensating spring, 3mm

and 6mm.

Problem solved!

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Re: [MBZ] Antenna mast for the SL600

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Alles.
My '85 TD has smooth nylon filament and my '87 190D has a toothsome one.
YMMV.
Fred.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 5:19 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> hmmm you might be correct, maybe the ones I recall dealing with were not
> the correct part or something.  or maybe my recollection is incorrect.
>
> --FT
>
> On 1/15/19 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > BZZZT. Wrong.
> >
> > There are some that are “smooth” for the wheels and idler roller to
> grab, then there are ones that have teeth on one side for the other style
> wheel that has teeth.  Not sure which is newer or older.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 15, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think they all have the teeth if I recall from tearing into some of
> them.  Gives something for the wheels to grab
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >> On 1/15/19 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> >>> Can't tell if the plastic tail is toothed or smooth.  I think mine
> needs to be smooth (1983 300TD).
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:13 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I ordered 3 for less than $6 each, looks like they fit the 124, my
> >>> daughter needs one too.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>>
> >>> On 1/15/19 4:05 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
> >>> > Then a coupla cheepcheep spares from China for $7 each
> >>> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aerial-Powe...75.c100623.m-1
> >>> >
> >>> <
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aerial-Power-Antenna-for-Mercedes-Benz-W140-W124-R129-92-02-Replacement-W8B7/362421157895?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3D89f7eb362eb6425c98bfda9422d40a83%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D230932241658%26itm%3D362421157895&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
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Re: [MBZ] Alaska

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On 15/01/2019 4:56 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:

I purchased a socket set to be able to install a battery in her jeep.  Second 
car that my kid drove while living here.  She went ballistic when she saw the 
receipt and feared I was collecting stuff.  Like I could install the thing with 
the trade show chtokies tiny tool kit.

clay

Collecting stuff is better than blowing your money on wine, women and 
song. At least, when you are done, you still have the tools for other 
purposes.


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew's next BMW.

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Wow, I wonder what caused such a shift in the bay state.  MD is at 18,
which doesn't surprise me.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:37 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Whelp, according to Insure.com DC is in the top 8 most expensive insurance
> states, MA is 38th...
> https://www.insure.com/car-insurance/car-insurance-rates.html
>
> I see Vermont is listed as least expensive, I need to move 45 minutes
> north west. Lovely place VT.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 4:25:34 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I strongly disagree!  Mass. and PA drivers are way worse - MA drivers have
> the highest insurance rates (or used to) and PA drivers tailgate
> relentlessly.   I've lived here since '76 and have been involved in exactly
> 3 accidents - one was my fault.
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:21 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
> DC drivers are the worst, theres no flow, everyone for themselves. I've
> heard it said that its because many (most?) people there are from away and
> thus they don't understand American driving. New York and Boston drivers
> are aggressive but predictably so, mid-western drivers are predictably
> polite, in DC you can't predict anything...
>
> That said I really like the bike, if/when I get another bike it'll be an
> adventure bike like that.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 4:17:29 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
> Might consider one if I get sick of living...
>
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>
> > Just the ticket for hopping over DC traffic...
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

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Perhaps there is a 3mm error in the body jigs that resulted in the
difference, and the shims are the easiest way to compensate.
I'm using a jig that I made to build a new landing gear/engine mount for
the tailwind. I hope there's only a 3mm error in the resulting framework!

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:44 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> But, maybe in those countries that have right hand drive, the shims are
> reversed?
> Maybe the engineers are just having fun? How much difference can 3mm
> make no matter what side the driver sits on or whether the axle is
> longer on one side etc?
>
> RB
>
>
> On 15/01/2019 4:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > The driver's side of the car varies by country - not all on the left.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:39 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Having seen the photos of the differential setup on the car, that was
> >> sort of my thought as well. They are likely compensating for the offset
> >> on the differential.
> >> Another simpler answer might be that they thought the car might most
> >> often be driven with only the driver on board and were compensating for
> >> the additional weight on the driver's side.
> >>
> >> RB
> >>
> >> On 15/01/2019 2:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Now that I think about it, maybe it’s because the pivot point for the
> >> swing axle is on one side of the rear axle assembly, not in the center?
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Jan 15, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>  Why would it be asymmetric?
> 
>  --FT
> 
>  On 1/15/19 1:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > I got an answer from one of my finnie forum buddies.
> >
> > Seems that yellow paint was used on the production lines as an
> >> inspection mark, so it can be ignored.
> > That means I have a red paint mark.
> >
> > According to the service manual table for spring spacers, I need a
> 6mm
> >> for the left (driver’s) side and a 3mm for the right.
> > There are only two spacers available for the compensating spring, 3mm
> >> and 6mm.
> > Problem solved!
> >
> > -D
> >
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[MBZ] OT AVID

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Curt.
Last night Joanne and I watched "Puzzle" edited on AVID Equipment.
Just a thought.
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew's next BMW.

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Might consider one if I get sick of living...

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>
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Re: [MBZ] Antenna mast for the SL600

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I think they all have the teeth if I recall from tearing into some of 
them.  Gives something for the wheels to grab


--FT

On 1/15/19 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Can't tell if the plastic tail is toothed or smooth.  I think mine 
needs to be smooth (1983 300TD).


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:13 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


I ordered 3 for less than $6 each, looks like they fit the 124, my
daughter needs one too.

--FT

On 1/15/19 4:05 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
> Then a coupla cheepcheep spares from China for $7 each
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aerial-Powe...75.c100623.m-1
>



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Re: [MBZ] Alaska

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Start collecting crap there and get shipped home with your new stuff.

RB

On 15/01/2019 3:39 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:

Not sure how long.  I suspect not permanent, but it may be longer than a few 
months.   I will need to find a chapter of Crap Collectors Anonymous and dry 
out.

clay




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So are you now in Alaska for the long term or are you just visiting for a bit?

RB

On 14/01/2019 10:02 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:

I need that!


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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

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On 15/01/2019 4:51 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Perhaps there is a 3mm error in the body jigs that resulted in the
difference, and the shims are the easiest way to compensate.
I'm using a jig that I made to build a new landing gear/engine mount for
the tailwind. I hope there's only a 3mm error in the resulting framework!


If you land a bit hard on one occasion, you may change it that much anyway!

RB


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Re: [MBZ] OT AVID

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 They had us in the credits? Back in the old days that was very common, if you 
look at movies from the late '90s - early 2000s you'll see Avid listed a lot at 
the very end. Now its pretty uncommon, I'd like to see it come back.
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 6:24:36 PM EST, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Curt.
Last night Joanne and I watched "Puzzle" edited on AVID Equipment.
Just a thought.
Fred.

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Re: [MBZ] I found this on Facebook Marketplace

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I need that.

Bob R

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> On Jan 15, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes.
> 
> It’s got a factor crate motor in it. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
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>> 
>> Anyone need a W115 220D?
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/308605779763608/
>> 
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[MBZ] I found this on Facebook Marketplace

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Anyone need a W115 220D?
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/308605779763608/


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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

While I understand that the MB book claims the marks are white, not yellow, 
take a look at the underbody shot of this 1966 200D for sale in SF. 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-200d-3/

It clearly has a YELLOW mark on the compensator spring. Might be worth calling 
Tom Hanson, as the book clearly doesn't match reality in these two cases.

Or is it possible that the book is referring to the regular coil springs, NOT 
the compensator spring?

D.


On Tue, 15 Jan 2019, Dan Penoff wrote:
>
>I?m not sure anyone here will know this, but I?m trying to identify the proper 
>spring pads for the compensating spring on my 220SEb. The spring has a red and 
>yellow paint mark on it. However, the service manual only identifies red, 
>white and blue paint marks - no yellow - to select the proper spring pads to 
>use.
>
>Anyone have any experience with this or know of a resource that might help me 
>identify the proper spring pads to use?
>
>Thanks,
>
>-D
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[MBZ] Antenna mast for the SL600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1408270001-MERCEDES-BENZ-AM-FM-POWER-ANTENNA-MAST-BLACK-TIP-/230932241658

$8 with a $5 coupon!

Then a coupla cheepcheep spares from China for $7 each 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aerial-Powe...75.c100623.m-1 



They are probably mostly crap but the MB part is $273 off Amazon (but 
with free shipping!) but for $21 for 3 I guess I can live with some 
quality issues.


The car has an aftermarket radio in it (very nice Alpine with Bluetooth) 
so I'm not sure how the auto raise/retract is sorted, guess I will find out.


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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Possibly original white paint that has yellowed with age?

David Bruckmann via Mercedes  writes:

> While I understand that the MB book claims the marks are white, not yellow, 
> take a look at the underbody shot of this 1966 200D for sale in SF. 
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-200d-3/
>
> It clearly has a YELLOW mark on the compensator spring. Might be worth 
> calling Tom Hanson, as the book clearly doesn't match reality in these two 
> cases.
>
> Or is it possible that the book is referring to the regular coil springs, NOT 
> the compensator spring?
>
> D.

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew's next BMW.

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 DC drivers are the worst, theres no flow, everyone for themselves. I've heard 
it said that its because many (most?) people there are from away and thus they 
don't understand American driving. New York and Boston drivers are aggressive 
but predictably so, mid-western drivers are predictably polite, in DC you can't 
predict anything...
That said I really like the bike, if/when I get another bike it'll be an 
adventure bike like that.
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 4:17:29 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 Might consider one if I get sick of living...

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:30 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> Just the ticket for hopping over DC traffic...
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2012-bmw-r1200gs-rallye/
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew's next BMW.

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Whelp, according to Insure.com DC is in the top 8 most expensive insurance 
states, MA is 
38th...https://www.insure.com/car-insurance/car-insurance-rates.html
I see Vermont is listed as least expensive, I need to move 45 minutes north 
west. Lovely place VT.
-Curt


On Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 4:25:34 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote:  
 
 I strongly disagree!  Mass. and PA drivers are way worse - MA drivers have the 
highest insurance rates (or used to) and PA drivers tailgate relentlessly.   
I've lived here since '76 and have been involved in exactly 3 accidents - one 
was my fault.  

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:21 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:

 DC drivers are the worst, theres no flow, everyone for themselves. I've heard 
it said that its because many (most?) people there are from away and thus they 
don't understand American driving. New York and Boston drivers are aggressive 
but predictably so, mid-western drivers are predictably polite, in DC you can't 
predict anything...
That said I really like the bike, if/when I get another bike it'll be an 
adventure bike like that.
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 15, 2019, 4:17:29 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 Might consider one if I get sick of living...

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:30 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just the ticket for hopping over DC traffic...
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2012-bmw-r1200gs-rallye/
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Re: [MBZ] Compensating Spring Paint Marks

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The driver's side of the car varies by country - not all on the left.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:39 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Having seen the photos of the differential setup on the car, that was
> sort of my thought as well. They are likely compensating for the offset
> on the differential.
> Another simpler answer might be that they thought the car might most
> often be driven with only the driver on board and were compensating for
> the additional weight on the driver's side.
>
> RB
>
> On 15/01/2019 2:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Now that I think about it, maybe it’s because the pivot point for the
> swing axle is on one side of the rear axle assembly, not in the center?
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 15, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Why would it be asymmetric?
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >> On 1/15/19 1:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> I got an answer from one of my finnie forum buddies.
> >>>
> >>> Seems that yellow paint was used on the production lines as an
> inspection mark, so it can be ignored.
> >>>
> >>> That means I have a red paint mark.
> >>>
> >>> According to the service manual table for spring spacers, I need a 6mm
> for the left (driver’s) side and a 3mm for the right.
> >>>
> >>> There are only two spacers available for the compensating spring, 3mm
> and 6mm.
> >>>
> >>> Problem solved!
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Alaska

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I purchased a socket set to be able to install a battery in her jeep.  Second 
car that my kid drove while living here.  She went ballistic when she saw the 
receipt and feared I was collecting stuff.  Like I could install the thing with 
the trade show chtokies tiny tool kit.

clay

> On Jan 15, 2019, at 1:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Start collecting crap there and get shipped home with your new stuff.
> 
> RB
> 
> On 15/01/2019 3:39 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>> Not sure how long.  I suspect not permanent, but it may be longer than a few 
>> months.   I will need to find a chapter of Crap Collectors Anonymous and dry 
>> out.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 8:25 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So are you now in Alaska for the long term or are you just visiting for a 
>>> bit?
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
>>> On 14/01/2019 10:02 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:
 I need that!
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Re: [MBZ] I like this guy

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have a problem with the 1 in 1 out rule. It’s more like 10 in 1 out 

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> On Jan 15, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> For my similar-sized fleet I only spent about 1% of what he did! I am so far 
> ahead of the game!
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 1/15/19 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> Very helpful!! I now know how to manage my fleet MUCH more efficiently.  
>> Only thing I can't seem to do is follow his "one car in/ one car out" rule.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:31 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>but he sorta dissed the SL600, though he has a nice vid about it
>> 
>>I want his garage.
>> 
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCuexUZOKK8=em-uploademail
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I found this on Facebook Marketplace

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes.

It’s got a factor crate motor in it. 

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/308605779763608/
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Re: [MBZ] I found this on Facebook Marketplace

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Can anyone look at this for me? Does it seem like a good snag? 

Bob R

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> On Jan 15, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes.
> 
> It’s got a factor crate motor in it. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone need a W115 220D?
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/308605779763608/
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Antenna mast for the SL600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I ordered 3 for less than $6 each, looks like they fit the 124, my 
daughter needs one too.


--FT

On 1/15/19 4:05 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
Then a coupla cheepcheep spares from China for $7 each 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aerial-Powe...75.c100623.m-1 



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Re: [MBZ] Alaska

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Not sure how long.  I suspect not permanent, but it may be longer than a few 
months.   I will need to find a chapter of Crap Collectors Anonymous and dry 
out.

clay



> On Jan 15, 2019, at 8:25 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So are you now in Alaska for the long term or are you just visiting for a bit?
> 
> RB
> 
> On 14/01/2019 10:02 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>> I need that!


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Re: [MBZ] Alaska

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Much agreed.  Car parts are better than hang overs, STD, and a sore throat.

The parts collecting had an honest beginning.  I would find good parts to 
replace ugly, which became better, then trying to get best parts.  Add low 
grade cars in need of betterment, and the drive to upgrade …. grows until it 
overcomes space available.

Maybe I should have invested in finding the best single malts instead.

clay

> On Jan 15, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 15/01/2019 4:56 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>> I purchased a socket set to be able to install a battery in her jeep.  
>> Second car that my kid drove while living here.  She went ballistic when she 
>> saw the receipt and feared I was collecting stuff.  Like I could install the 
>> thing with the trade show chtokies tiny tool kit.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
> Collecting stuff is better than blowing your money on wine, women and song. 
> At least, when you are done, you still have the tools for other purposes.
> 
> RB
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I found this on Facebook Marketplace

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

There, I fixed it.    Yeah, it is not black, but pretty near it from 
reflectance perspective.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 1/15/19 6:16 PM:

  The real test will be this summer, as with all the glass that car is like a 
giant BLACK greenhouse.

-D






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[MBZ] Alternator opinion welcomed 350sdl

[Patrick Atuonah via Mercedes]

I have a 1991 350SDL chasis. OM 603.961 engone was transplanted.
No issues whatsoever.. until I got problem with battery.
Shop says alternator.. I got new battery and a week later battery died.
Took car to shop and a Reman OEM realternator installed at the dealer.
Alternator is not charging the battery so battery is dead all the time and
have to be jumped to start the car.

The Dealer diagnosed the issue to be ignition switch at a $700 cost of
replacement. I'm stuck with this bill.

How does an ignition switch affect the charging of the battery if
alternator goes bad?
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator opinion welcomed 350sdl

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

The alternator was probably good if replacing it didn't fix anything. 
The only thing worse than paying somebody who can't diagnose anything to 
replace a good alternator would be to pay them to replace a good alternator and 
a good ignition switch and still have a car that won't charge. I'm not saying 
that's what will happen, but I don't have any confidence it won't. 

If the glow plug relay is stuck on, that might use all the alternator has to 
give. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Alaska

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I don't think that's even possible in Clay's current location. 
Mitch.

> On January 15, 2019 at 8:30 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Maybe you should take up chasing young wimmin, then see which shed 
> prefer.   Test the water by pointing out all the attractive ones to 
> her.  ;>)

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Re: [MBZ] I found this on Facebook Marketplace

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Nope. they never were worth much.   A 110/111 with AC is not worth $1500 
more air conditioned than without, so maybe I should sell my Kuhlmeister 
AC as a complete system.  I think I paid $15 for the last compressor 
bracket I bought.


How much is a new universal fitzall AC in the box?



Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 1/15/19 7:32 PM:

Curley hasn’t priced used FrigiKing or Behr AC systems for these cars lately, I 
can tell.  To gather all the parts that are in working order will set you back 
$1500 or more. Then you have to get the system working.

-D





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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: 126 Headlight Wipers

[Mark E. Peneguy via Mercedes]

Dan,

Thanks for the suggestion.  Until your post, I thought the headlight wiper 
inserts were much smaller than the windshield wiper inserts.  I'll take a look.

Mark


On Jan 15, 2019, at 8:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Mark,

When I had my 350SDL and 300SEL I believe I just took existing wiper blade 
insert material and cut it to length to fit the headlight wipers, since , as 
you have found, they?re pretty much NLA.

That worked well for me, and it was relatively inexpensive.

Dan



On Jan 15, 2019, at 8:00 PM, Mark E. Peneguy via 
Mercedes  wrote:

Friends,

As I mentioned some time ago when asking about another issue (thank you, Curly, 
for the solution!), I am almost entirely a lurker and only get to look at 
messages late in the day or evening, so please accept my apologies, now, if I 
don't respond quickly to questions.

As you can see from my signature block, I have a 1988 420SEL (owned since 
1993), with just shy of 290,000 miles, and I'd like to keep it running, and as 
complete, as possible.

Presently, I am looking for one headlight wiper arm and a set (or sets) of blades 
& inserts for the wipers.  My mechanic has been unable to locate these for me.

He has ordered this arm:  126 820 6544

This arm is back?ordered, but is unlikely to become available: 126 820 6644

In addition, he cannot locate blades (I am told the inserts will come with the 
blade):  126 820 1245 (or 3 398 113 048)

I have looked online, as has my mechanic, and each site that seems to indicate 
the parts are available, so far, have responded that they are not available.  I 
checked with the Classic Center and was told they are unavailable worldwide (in 
the MB family).  I have one e-mail out waiting for a response, but I am not 
holding out hope.

Does anyone know of a source for these items?

Thanks in advance for any leads you might give me.

Mark

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Re: [MBZ] Alternator opinion welcomed 350sdl

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Mitch may be onto the real reason.  Start the car, then unplug the 
harness to the glowplugs at the relay.  Check charging voltage before 
and after you unplug.   If the relay is bad, you will have probably 1 
volt or more higher reading without the glow plug harness plugged in.   
If the differential is 0.0 to 0.2 V then the relay is probably ok, or at 
least it is not stuck at the moment.


The switch could be possible, but usually, the start contact goes out 
first.   I have not studied the idiot light circuit in the SDL, but I do 
believe it goes through the key switch.


The alternator has to get current to the field windings to make juice. 
In most Bosch systems, this current is completed by the idiot light circuit.


Does the idiot light come on with switch on and engine off?

Does the idiot light go off when the engine is running? (key on)



Patrick Atuonah via Mercedes wrote on 1/15/19 7:39 PM:

I have a 1991 350SDL chasis. OM 603.961 engone was transplanted.
No issues whatsoever.. until I got problem with battery.
Shop says alternator.. I got new battery and a week later battery died.
Took car to shop and a Reman OEM realternator installed at the dealer.
Alternator is not charging the battery so battery is dead all the time and
have to be jumped to start the car.

The Dealer diagnosed the issue to be ignition switch at a $700 cost of
replacement. I'm stuck with this bill.

How does an ignition switch affect the charging of the battery if
alternator goes bad?
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: 126 Headlight Wipers

[Mark E. Peneguy via Mercedes]

Curly,

Thanks for your suggestions. I will write offline to discuss the arms you have.

Mark


On Jan 15, 2019 at 8:28 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

I can sell you a couple used wiper arms with worn out blades.?? If CC
has no blades, you are probably SOL unless someone has NOS.?? Another
idea is to see it the wiper inserts are available for, say a 200D (110)
220Sb (111) or any 114 or 115 model.?? Order in an insert and I'll bet
you can cut it down to make the blade for the headlight.

Mark E. Peneguy via Mercedes wrote on 1/15/19 7:00 PM:

Friends,

As I mentioned some time ago when asking about another issue (thank
you, Curly, for the solution!), I am almost entirely a lurker and only
get to look at messages late in the day or evening, so please accept
my apologies, now, if I don't respond quickly to questions.

As you can see from my signature block, I have a 1988 420SEL (owned
since 1993), with just shy of 290,000 miles, and I'd like to keep it
running, and as complete, as possible.

Presently, I am looking for one headlight wiper arm and a set (or
sets) of blades & inserts for the wipers.? My mechanic has been unable
to locate these for me.

He has ordered this arm:? 126 820 6544

This arm is back?ordered, but is unlikely to become available: 126 820
6644

In addition, he cannot locate blades (I am told the inserts will come
with the blade):? 126 820 1245 (or 3 398 113 048)

I have looked online, as has my mechanic, and each site that seems to
indicate the parts are available, so far, have responded that they are
not available.? I checked with the Classic Center and was told they
are unavailable worldwide (in the MB family).? I have one e-mail out
waiting for a response, but I am not holding out hope.

Does anyone know of a source for these items?

Thanks in advance for any leads you might give me.

Mark


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Re: [MBZ] I found this on Facebook Marketplace

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No AC, Arizona Bob.

-D


> On Jan 15, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Can anyone look at this for me? Does it seem like a good snag? 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes.
>> 
>> It’s got a factor crate motor in it. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anyone need a W115 220D?
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/308605779763608/
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Re: [MBZ] I found this on Facebook Marketplace

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Which reminds me - the FrigiKing in the 220SEb was tight as a drum - held 29” 
of Hg for several hours. I dumped a can of the EnviroCool or whatever the R12 
propane equivalent is, and it’s been making ice cubes ever since. The real test 
will be this summer, as with all the glass that car is like a giant greenhouse.

-D


> On Jan 15, 2019, at 7:14 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> No AC, Arizona Bob.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Can anyone look at this for me? Does it seem like a good snag? 
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes.
>>> 
>>> It’s got a factor crate motor in it. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 15, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Anyone need a W115 220D?
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/308605779763608/
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] I found this on Facebook Marketplace

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That could literally be a killer for AZ Bob

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> On Jan 15, 2019, at 6:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> No AC, Arizona Bob.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Can anyone look at this for me? Does it seem like a good snag? 
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes.
>>> 
>>> It’s got a factor crate motor in it. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 15, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Anyone need a W115 220D?
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/308605779763608/
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] I found this on Facebook Marketplace

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Yes it could.

Bob R

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> On Jan 15, 2019, at 5:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> That could literally be a killer for AZ Bob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 6:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> No AC, Arizona Bob.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can anyone look at this for me? Does it seem like a good snag? 
>>> 
>>> Bob R
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 15, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Yes.
 
 It’s got a factor crate motor in it. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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> 
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/308605779763608/
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** 126 Headlight Wipers

[Mark E. Peneguy via Mercedes]

Friends,

As I mentioned some time ago when asking about another issue (thank you, 
Curly, for the solution!), I am almost entirely a lurker and only get to 
look at messages late in the day or evening, so please accept my 
apologies, now, if I don't respond quickly to questions.


As you can see from my signature block, I have a 1988 420SEL (owned 
since 1993), with just shy of 290,000 miles, and I'd like to keep it 
running, and as complete, as possible.


Presently, I am looking for one headlight wiper arm and a set (or sets) 
of blades & inserts for the wipers.  My mechanic has been unable to 
locate these for me.


He has ordered this arm:  126 820 6544

This arm is back–ordered, but is unlikely to become available: 126 820 6644

In addition, he cannot locate blades (I am told the inserts will come 
with the blade):  126 820 1245 (or 3 398 113 048)


I have looked online, as has my mechanic, and each site that seems to 
indicate the parts are available, so far, have responded that they are 
not available.  I checked with the Classic Center and was told they are 
unavailable worldwide (in the MB family).  I have one e-mail out waiting 
for a response, but I am not holding out hope.


Does anyone know of a source for these items?

Thanks in advance for any leads you might give me.

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Re: [MBZ] 126 Headlight Wipers

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Mark,

When I had my 350SDL and 300SEL I believe I just took existing wiper blade 
insert material and cut it to length to fit the headlight wipers, since , as 
you have found, they’re pretty much NLA.

That worked well for me, and it was relatively inexpensive.

Dan


> On Jan 15, 2019, at 8:00 PM, Mark E. Peneguy via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Friends,
> 
> As I mentioned some time ago when asking about another issue (thank you, 
> Curly, for the solution!), I am almost entirely a lurker and only get to look 
> at messages late in the day or evening, so please accept my apologies, now, 
> if I don't respond quickly to questions.
> 
> As you can see from my signature block, I have a 1988 420SEL (owned since 
> 1993), with just shy of 290,000 miles, and I'd like to keep it running, and 
> as complete, as possible.
> 
> Presently, I am looking for one headlight wiper arm and a set (or sets) of 
> blades & inserts for the wipers.  My mechanic has been unable to locate these 
> for me.
> 
> He has ordered this arm:  126 820 6544
> 
> This arm is back–ordered, but is unlikely to become available: 126 820 6644
> 
> In addition, he cannot locate blades (I am told the inserts will come with 
> the blade):  126 820 1245 (or 3 398 113 048)
> 
> I have looked online, as has my mechanic, and each site that seems to 
> indicate the parts are available, so far, have responded that they are not 
> available.  I checked with the Classic Center and was told they are 
> unavailable worldwide (in the MB family).  I have one e-mail out waiting for 
> a response, but I am not holding out hope.
> 
> Does anyone know of a source for these items?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any leads you might give me.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** 126 Headlight Wipers

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I can sell you a couple used wiper arms with worn out blades.   If CC 
has no blades, you are probably SOL unless someone has NOS.   Another 
idea is to see it the wiper inserts are available for, say a 200D (110) 
220Sb (111) or any 114 or 115 model.   Order in an insert and I'll bet 
you can cut it down to make the blade for the headlight.


Mark E. Peneguy via Mercedes wrote on 1/15/19 7:00 PM:

Friends,

As I mentioned some time ago when asking about another issue (thank 
you, Curly, for the solution!), I am almost entirely a lurker and only 
get to look at messages late in the day or evening, so please accept 
my apologies, now, if I don't respond quickly to questions.


As you can see from my signature block, I have a 1988 420SEL (owned 
since 1993), with just shy of 290,000 miles, and I'd like to keep it 
running, and as complete, as possible.


Presently, I am looking for one headlight wiper arm and a set (or 
sets) of blades & inserts for the wipers.  My mechanic has been unable 
to locate these for me.


He has ordered this arm:  126 820 6544

This arm is back–ordered, but is unlikely to become available: 126 820 
6644


In addition, he cannot locate blades (I am told the inserts will come 
with the blade):  126 820 1245 (or 3 398 113 048)


I have looked online, as has my mechanic, and each site that seems to 
indicate the parts are available, so far, have responded that they are 
not available.  I checked with the Classic Center and was told they 
are unavailable worldwide (in the MB family).  I have one e-mail out 
waiting for a response, but I am not holding out hope.


Does anyone know of a source for these items?

Thanks in advance for any leads you might give me.

Mark




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Re: [MBZ] I found this on Facebook Marketplace

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Curley hasn’t priced used FrigiKing or Behr AC systems for these cars lately, I 
can tell.  To gather all the parts that are in working order will set you back 
$1500 or more. Then you have to get the system working.

-D


> On Jan 15, 2019, at 8:22 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You can add AC.  I used ta have a spare compressor bracket.  THat is the only 
> part that is hard to find.   Or you can adapt a rotary compressor bracket 
> form a newer car. Mo bettah!
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 1/15/19 6:14 PM:
>> No AC, Arizona Bob.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] Photography award winner

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1974 Mercedes Benz 280

https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/d/ash-grove-1974-mercedes-benz-280/6793981674.html


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Re: [MBZ] Photography award winner

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

abuse of Rx narcotics...

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 1/15/19 9:39 PM:

1974 Mercedes Benz 280

https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/d/ash-grove-1974-mercedes-benz-280/6793981674.html





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Re: [MBZ] I found this on Facebook Marketplace

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You can add AC.  I used ta have a spare compressor bracket.  THat is the 
only part that is hard to find.   Or you can adapt a rotary compressor 
bracket form a newer car. Mo bettah!


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 1/15/19 6:14 PM:

No AC, Arizona Bob.

-D





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Re: [MBZ] Alaska

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Maybe you should take up chasing young wimmin, then see which shed 
prefer.   Test the water by pointing out all the attractive ones to 
her.  ;>)


Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote on 1/15/19 7:13 PM:

Much agreed.  Car parts are better than hang overs, STD, and a sore throat.

The parts collecting had an honest beginning.  I would find good parts to 
replace ugly, which became better, then trying to get best parts.  Add low 
grade cars in need of betterment, and the drive to upgrade …. grows until it 
overcomes space available.

Maybe I should have invested in finding the best single malts instead.

clay




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Re: [MBZ] Alternator opinion welcomed 350sdl

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I really am not sure and I have never ran into that issue. Testing the 
alternator is pretty easy. Put a meter on it as see if it’s putting out about 
13.3 or more volts at idle.

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> 
> I have a 1991 350SDL chasis. OM 603.961 engone was transplanted.
> No issues whatsoever.. until I got problem with battery.
> Shop says alternator.. I got new battery and a week later battery died.
> Took car to shop and a Reman OEM realternator installed at the dealer.
> Alternator is not charging the battery so battery is dead all the time and
> have to be jumped to start the car.
> 
> The Dealer diagnosed the issue to be ignition switch at a $700 cost of
> replacement. I'm stuck with this bill.
> 
> How does an ignition switch affect the charging of the battery if
> alternator goes bad?
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator opinion welcomed 350sdl

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The ignition switch (or a relay downstream) has to provide field current to 
make the alternator charge. It seems unlikely to me that the switch would be 
the problem though, seems like other stuff wouldn't work if the switch was bad, 
stuff like the lights and radio...

-Curt

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 wrote:  
 
 I have a 1991 350SDL chasis. OM 603.961 engone was transplanted.
No issues whatsoever.. until I got problem with battery.
Shop says alternator.. I got new battery and a week later battery died.
Took car to shop and a Reman OEM realternator installed at the dealer.
Alternator is not charging the battery so battery is dead all the time and
have to be jumped to start the car.

The Dealer diagnosed the issue to be ignition switch at a $700 cost of
replacement. I'm stuck with this bill.

How does an ignition switch affect the charging of the battery if
alternator goes bad?
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Re: [MBZ] Alaska

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I am guessing if the lawyer lady has clients in AK, she is probably 
in/near anchorage.  Or maybe Juneau.   There oughta be some wimmins in 
Anchorage.   Juneau, being the residence of pols, should have a 
considerable abundance of call girls he could chase.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 1/15/19 8:20 PM:

I don't think that's even possible in Clay's current location.
Mitch.


On January 15, 2019 at 8:30 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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Maybe you should take up chasing young wimmin, then see which shed
prefer.   Test the water by pointing out all the attractive ones to
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[MBZ] Andrew's next car

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Just right for the furloughed gummit employee

https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/d/san-bernardino-mercedes-dieseltd/6795190238.html



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Re: [MBZ] Something Kaleb needs ...

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I'm guessing a restore of that bus would easily push the million dollar
mark... Can't imagine there is a store of parts laying about to draw from,
plus, major rust and missing components, not to even count proper seats and
windows [lots of windows].

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 6:39 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nice window bus, what what will it cost to restore, €200,000?
>
> That crawler looks like it just rolled off the factory floor.
> Still has green paint on the tracks even.
>
> Mitch.
>
>
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeXFyr612oU
> >
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[MBZ] Buying a battery for a diesel

[Craig via Mercedes]

The battery in the 1993 E300D I just bought is definitely bad and needs to
be replaced.

I have looked around and the lowest price I see is about $120 for a Group
49/H8.

I thought of getting a comparably-rated Group 31 heavy truck battery from
our local Kenworth dealer for $79.99 and then changing the screw
terminals to posts with adapters like the attached picture shows. Yes, I
have checked to see if it would fit! And, yes, I have asked if they would
take a Group 49 as a core.

What do you all think about this approach?


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Buying a battery for a diesel

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Go for it. There's nothing magic about batteries, as long as you get the
correct voltage and enough cranking amps. You can make a new box to hold it
if you need to.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:14 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The battery in the 1993 E300D I just bought is definitely bad and needs to
> be replaced.
>
> I have looked around and the lowest price I see is about $120 for a Group
> 49/H8.
>
> I thought of getting a comparably-rated Group 31 heavy truck battery from
> our local Kenworth dealer for $79.99 and then changing the screw
> terminals to posts with adapters like the attached picture shows. Yes, I
> have checked to see if it would fit! And, yes, I have asked if they would
> take a Group 49 as a core.
>
> What do you all think about this approach?
>
>
> Craig
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