date:20060425

Hello Craig,

I am assuming that it is a typo or misunderstanding, which really isn't good 
since the company also sells biodiesel equipment.  I have heard a few reports 
that switching to biodiesel actually improved mileage by 1 or 2 MPG but I have 
always assumed that either poor recording methodology or that the engine was so 
dirty that the biodiesel cleaned it up.

Given the truck has been running for about 3K miles then the 27MPG at 70MPH is 
a pretty solid figure.  Kevin claims that it drops off pretty fast with 20MPG 
at 80MPH with 32.7MPG at 60MPH

Todd Smith '85 300CD 248K

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Craig McCluskey
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 23:22
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Pickups

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:53:42 -0400 "Smith, Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I am purchasing a diesel F-150 XLT pickup from http://4btconversions.com
> that has the industrial Cummins 4BT engine and should do about 27MPG at
> 70MPH.

They say, "Projected 26-28 mpg on Petro Diesel and 30-32 on B-100."

So how do they get more with B-100?

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Pickups

2006-04-25 Thread Kevin

On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 06:48:13PM -0400, Smith, Todd wrote:
> It was my understanding that the Frito-Lay delivery vans were having serious 
> issues with the SB Chevy that was in them and that a Cummins sales agent got 
> wind of this and proposed a drop-in replacement.  While 4BT engines are 
> available, the engines with the SB Chevy bolt-pattern are highly prized.  The 
> engine that is in the truck that I am looking at came from a forklift so I am 
> a little bit concerned about high-mileage but if it checks out when I see it 
> then I think I will be okay.

It was my understanding that it is just a flywheel housing, not an
engine, and that a four banger flywheel housing and six banger flywheel 
housing are interchangeable, depending on what trans you want to bolt up.

You are correct that in junkyards, an SAE patterned setup is more prevalent.
I used to have the flywheel housing part number sitting around. A cummins
6 banger will be going into my dead chevy dually pickup.

K

Re: [MBZ] Back in the fold, my uncrunched '87 300TD


Good for you Joe!

My 124 TD finally went to get the frame straightened yesterday, after the 
encounter with Bambi in November.  If we had paid the freight to haul it 
back here, we could have had it back in a week or two.  But the ins co 
would not pay to bring it here, so we are at the mercy of small town 
logistics, and waiting lines.  I could have sent it to a regular body shop 
in the small town, and had it back in a month or so probably, but I am sure 
it would not have been done right.  It is being done at a world class 
restoration shop, so there is a long wait.  The wait is 4 years there for a 
full restoration to start.  Then a year or so for the production.  At least 
I know when it is back, it will be right.  It is amazing that a relatively 
light hit to a relatively soft object moving right to left bent the frame 
to the right.  I know that in an older chassis; 110/111, probably 
114/115/116, and perhaps 123, the frame would not have been bent, but the 
crumple zones were not as advanced then.  The 124 crumple zones are better 
for hard hits, but more expensive to repair light hits.


At 05:39 PM 4/25/2006, you wrote:

Delivered about noon today, replete with new late production
hood/pad/grille/star, late production euro lenses to go with the
updated hood, fan/clutch/2-piece fan shroud/Behr radiator, hydraulic
reservoir - the list goes on.  Paint and fitment are perfect; if I get
down close and look real hard I can just see the hint of a wrinkle in
the fender apron that's left over from the straightening process.
Please excuse the gloat, but I'm kinda sorta walking on air and just
had to share.   :)

Thank you Farmers - not,

joe

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Re: [MBZ] Back in the fold, my uncrunched '87 300TD


Must almost feel like having a new car! (except you know its  quirks)

Congrats!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Pickups

Thanks Jim,

It is good to hear from the collective wisdom that this could be a good truck, 
"if it's done right."  My wife and I were able to purchase a home last year 
with extensive landscaping and I really need a truck to keep up with it.  I 
didn't need another vehicle that wasn't a daily driver and fuel prices meant 
that it had to be efficient.  I am trying to get to biodiesel but I haven't 
reached that yet.

Todd Smith '85 300CD 248K

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey
The 4BT is just a short version of the 6BT used in the Dodge.  Also a 
very
good motor, but with more noise and vibration.  For all practical 
purposes
it _is_ the same engine, sans two holes.  Just like a 616 and 617 are 
the
'same' engine.

It should be a very good truck, if it's done right.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Pickups

Hello Kaleb,

It was my understanding that the Frito-Lay delivery vans were having serious 
issues with the SB Chevy that was in them and that a Cummins sales agent got 
wind of this and proposed a drop-in replacement.  While 4BT engines are 
available, the engines with the SB Chevy bolt-pattern are highly prized.  The 
engine that is in the truck that I am looking at came from a forklift so I am a 
little bit concerned about high-mileage but if it checks out when I see it then 
I think I will be okay.

Todd Smith  '85 300CD 248K


This was posted on the vegoilfuel yahoogroup
http://dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/Facts/diesel_sales.htm

The Cummins B series (3.9L 4 cylinder and 5.9L six cylinder) diesel was 
developed in the early 1980's as a joint venture between Cummins and Case 
tractor.  Cummins was to provide the engine expertise, Case the production 
volume.  In 1984, an active step van/ bread truck repower program for the 
Ford E350 and GM P30 chassis was successfully promoted by Cummins.

As  B production capacity expanded, Cummins began actively seeking a major 
OEM entry for the 6B 5.9L engine in a pickup truck chassis. The 6B was seen 
by Dodge as  a possibility for the aging Ram 250 and 350 which had no diesel 
option. In late 1986, Dodge and Cummins reached an agreement to target the 
1998 model year for the ram diesel.  Cumins accepted the engineering 
challenge of mating the engine to the existing Dodge Ram chassis. As unseen 
technical problems surfaced, the introduction was rescheduled for the 1989 
model.

The first year forecast was for  less than 8,000 Dodge diesel pickups, with 
sales expected to grow by 3,000 trucks each following year.  Ram diesel 
sales for 1989 surpassed 16,000 trucks and the numbers have continued to 
grow.

Cummins data indicates that the life of the B engine in a medium duty truck 
is slightly over 300,000 miles. Estimated engine life in the pickup is 
unknown because few engines have failed or worn out, and there are numerous 
reports of over 800,000 miles.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin

yea, you can pick up he old frito trucks pretty cheap.

[MBZ] Back in the fold, my uncrunched '87 300TD

2006-04-25 Thread Joe Knight

Delivered about noon today, replete with new late production
hood/pad/grille/star, late production euro lenses to go with the
updated hood, fan/clutch/2-piece fan shroud/Behr radiator, hydraulic
reservoir - the list goes on.  Paint and fitment are perfect; if I get
down close and look real hard I can just see the hint of a wrinkle in
the fender apron that's left over from the straightening process. 
Please excuse the gloat, but I'm kinda sorta walking on air and just
had to share.   :)

Thank you Farmers - not,

joe

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 5, Issue 132


Thanks, David.  I'll do that.
Gerry

- Original Message - 
From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




archer wrote:
I wondered about that.  Now, if I only knew how to format the Mac files 
PC.



Format the external *drive* with the PC.  Then copy the files from the
Mac to it.  The Mac will recognize the PC drive just fine.  Most Mac
file formats are readable on the PC, it's just that the Mac hard disk
format isn't.

Re: [MBZ] Mac to PC


Thanks, Curt.  I don't think the old lady has too much to transfer.
Gerry

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


You don't really. In most cases you just add the correct file extension and 
you're off.

Of course that can be a pain if you've got a boatload of files...
 -Curt

From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I wondered about that.  Now, if I only knew how to format the Mac files
PC.
Gerry

Re: [MBZ] ... Computer Question



- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Depending on the version of the operating systems, you may just be able 
to network the two computers and enable file sharing, allowing direct 
transfer.  However, you must be sure that the PC programs involved can 
read the data -- it may be necessary to save the Mac data in PC format.
Any removable media should be readable by both if you use the correct 
formats -- for instance, burn all CDs as ISO 9600 format (or the one 
with the funny name), as that is the standard for PCs.  The Mac will 
read and write them all.

Much easier if you were going the other way.
You can get an external CD writer and use DragonBurn (or something 
similar) -- it runs under OS 9 as well as OS X, so unless you are 
dealing with a truely ancient machine, that should do it.

Biggest problem may be software -- not all PC programs can see Mac data!
Peter

---
Thanks, Peter.  Hopefully everything will go smoothly Thursday.
Gerry

Re: [MBZ] Mac to PC

2006-04-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain

What, doesn't anybody remember how to write batch files any more?

I forget the exact syntax, but try "help for" at the Windows command
prompt.  (Or if the Mac is an OS X machine, you can do something like
"foreach s (*) mv $s $s.doc; end"... but the original poster said "old Mac"
so I'm guessing not.)

Alex Chamberlain, who misses the days before GUIs when men were men
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

On 4/25/06, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You don't really. In most cases you just add the correct file extension
> and you're off.
>
>   Of course that can be a pain if you've got a boatload of files...
>
>   -Curt
>
>   Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:25:59 -0400
> From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I wondered about that.  Now, if I only knew how to format the Mac files
> PC.
> Gerry
>
>
>
>

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Pickups

Thanks Mitch,

How would I tell if it has a balance shaft or not?  Are you referring to the 
harmonic balancer?  Would it be possible to add one later?  My primary purpose 
is mainly daily drive with some general purpose hauling and maybe towing my 
parents stranded vehicle with a U-Haul dolly.  

Todd Smith

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley

It is basically 2/3 of the 6BT that Dodge used to use. (like a 602 is 5/6 of a 
603)
The desireable versions have inline pumps and balance shafts. The inline 6 is 
naturally balanced, but the four without the shaft is reputed to be shaky. It 
shouldn't be any harder to build a 250hp 4BT than a 400HP 6BT if you want to go 
that route. (but keep in mind that the F150 frame isn't as strong as the F250, 
and it is possible to twist it with enough torque and low gearing)

Re: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?

2006-04-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain

Yup.  It'd sure be nice if you could get around the asinine DOT/EPA
restrictions just by placing a special order!  I actually heard a "friend of
a friend" story about someone doing just that with a Volvo dealer here in
Portland.  Supposedly the dealer was dumb enough to let them order a brand
new turbodiesel V40 wagon... but then when the car showed up at the dock
from Sweden the feds swooped in and confiscated it.  (I doubt it really
happened, but it makes a nice story.)

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

On 4/25/06, Desert Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately though, you will have to move out of the US to own one.
> While they are built in AL, they are not US legal, yet.
>
> On 4/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Luther wrote:< way>>>
> >
> > Thanks Luther,
> > I have learned something useful!!  Now, when I hit the lottery I can
> order a
> > ML Diesel!!
> > ;-)
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Luther Gulseth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?
> >
> >
> > > AA, the ML DOES come with the CDI.  It must be ordered
> > > that way, like EVERY other car you purchase from MB!
> > > I use to think the same exact way, till my plant contact set me
> straight
> > > and told me how it is.
> > >
> > > Luther
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ~Agree - I would have thought the ML would have been a perfect fit for
> a
> > > ~diesel -
> > > ~
> > > ~Also - in Europe, I read that over 1/2 of the S class new car sales
> had
> > > ~diesel engines.
> > > ~That would be my "dream MB" - a 96-99 S Class with a large turbo
> diesel -
> > > ~The ultimate in luxury.  I know the W140 is supposed to be vault like
> --
> > > and
> > > ~never having driven a W140 or the newer S CLass (W220?) I can't
> really
> > > speak
> > > ~from experience but I would suspect the newer S Class would be close
> to
> > > the
> > > ~W140 in luxury and ride quality - probably not as good build quality
> as
> > > the
> > > ~W140 but it'd be nice to have the option.  I'd like to see some on
> the
> > > used
> > > ~car market -
> > > ~
> > > ~Oh well - I wonder of MB listens to the public?
> > > ~
> > > ~Sincerely,
> > > ~Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
> > > ~A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> > > ~For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> > > ~Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
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> > > ~- Original Message -
> > > ~From: "Kevin J. Slater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > ~To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > ~Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:53 AM
> > > ~Subject: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?
> > > ~
> > > ~
> > > ~>I don't get MB. You'd think they'd start putting diesel engines in
> more
> > > ~> cars. I know that folks who buy a new MB can usually afford to put
> > > ~> gasoline in the tank, but at the same time, there must be a large
> cross
> > > ~> section that would like to be able to say they get really good
> mileage
> > > in
> > > ~> their new XX class MB. Donchathink?
> > > ~>
> > > ~> ...Kevin
> > > ~> 87 300TD 283k mi
> > > ~>
> > > ~>
> > > ~> --
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Pickups

He wants $15K for the kit, which includes 4BT engine, new frame-side mounts, 
adapter plate for the tranny and the electronic control unit for the tranny.  I 
am buying his prototype for quite a bit less with 3K miles on it so he can 
finance a Excursion conversion.  Yes, I know, why on earth would you do that, 
but he owns a light-diesel repair shop so he can afford it.

Todd Smith  '85 300CD 248K

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther Gulseth
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 11:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Pickups


What'll that $et you back??  Put an Allison gear box with that and, ..

Luther

Re: [MBZ] Idiot Needle


I'll bite. Tell me more.


Can't really, without actually designing the thing!
But all you're really doing is making an out-of-range
detector for one or two of the analog instruments, and
driving an incandescent lamp.

Exactly the same as the low-fuel lamp in my pickup truck,
which unlike the MB system, doesn't use a separate sensor.
It just lights the lamp when the sender voltage is too low.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Colors


> When I ordered my '01, the MB Taste Police would not allow a
> tannish (now called Java) interior with any of the colors I wanted.
> Metallic red, for example.

Let me get this straight. You ordered the car, built to your needs and desires. 
You wanted an interior that was available for that model, combined with an 
exterior that was available for that model, and the computer wouldn't allow the 
dealer to process the order that way?
If I were the would-be customer, that would be a NO SALE until the
dealer got on the phone with HQ and found a way to place the order the
way I wanted it.  

I remember a story from the early 1990's. The police chief from a small place 
in California (La Jolla, perhaps?) went into a Saturn dealer (no
police package on the order form there) and wanted a couple of black 
cars with white doors, hoods, and trunk lids. Salesman said "let me
check on it, we've never done that before". The order was submitted that same 
day, and the chief had his economy cop cars a month or two
later. Saturn used it as an example of why they were a different sort
of car company, but why can't it be that way at every car maker?

[MBZ] MB Classic Magazine

2006-04-25 Thread l02turner


http://www.mercedes-benz.com/content/mbcom/international/
international_website/en/com/international_home/home/heritage_new/multimedia/classic_magazine_01.html

Here's a link to a MB Classic magazine published byMB.  You may need to 
cut/paste the url in pieces to get it to work - Sorry.


Good luck -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] W212

> <>
> 
> 
The W211 will be replaced in '09 (pics seen) and certainly by then the brand 
new 4.0 V-8 diesel will come here.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] More colors

> < The w203 is available in nine - white, two blacks, three grays, two dark
> reds, and blue.  Ugh.>>
> 
Precisely. And the interiors...two grays, black and blue. Awful. Java is best 
but needs more color.

So many dreary MBs, silver with black inside. Depressing.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Idiot Needle

2006-04-25 Thread R A Bennell

I'll bite. Tell me more.

Randy B

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:27 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Idiot Needle

> So, what is the best way to add a nice bright idiot light so that I 
> will quickly see it if the oil pressure drops
> off while I am driving?

A simple comparator (LM311?) watching the signal to the gauge
ought to do it.  Entirely as a bolt-on to the back of the
instrument cluster.

-- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen boost gimmicks?

2006-04-25 Thread R A Bennell

Your very basic description sounds a bit like water injection which has been 
around for a long time and supposedly
has benefits.

Randy B

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave M.
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:28 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Hydrogen boost gimmicks?


Anyone have data showing if these work or are hoxes? I couldn't locate
anything on Snopes or Google. Here's a couple of samples:

http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/index.html

http://www.savefuel.ca/

Basically, they claim to extract hydrogen from plain tap water, then
let your engine suck that in, for 20% increase in fuel economy. I
smell a rat... a friend wants to buy one and I'd like to have facts to
use before I talk him out of it, lol!


=)

--
Dave M.
Boise, ID
1994 E500 - 95kmi  (Q-ship)
1987 300D - 263kmi (Sportline)

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel G and M and C and E

> < cars. I know that folks who buy a new MB can usually afford to put
> gasoline in the tank, but at the same time, there must be a large cross
> section that would like to be able to say they get really good mileage in
> their new XX class MB. Donchathink?>>
> 
You gotta keep up, Slater. The new V-6 4-cam twin-turbo 4th generation 
common-rail diesel will be available in the G, M, C & E series as '07 models 
when 
ultra-low sulfur diesel becomes available.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Colors

<>


Faeth cuts me to the quick.

When I ordered my '01, the MB Taste Police would not allow a tannish (now 
called Java) interior with any of the colors I wanted. Metallic red, for 
example.

So my least worst choice was Obsidian Black metallic. I've lived with it for 
five years and won't be choosing it again. It's been polished (to remove the 
swirls) about twenty times and I now have it down to a few hours but 
still

And the W204 articles in the German mags show a beige interior with metallic 
red so for once they have been listening to their customers.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?

2006-04-25 Thread Desert Rat

Unfortunately though, you will have to move out of the US to own one.
While they are built in AL, they are not US legal, yet.

On 4/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Luther wrote:<>>
>
> Thanks Luther,
> I have learned something useful!!  Now, when I hit the lottery I can order a
> ML Diesel!!
> ;-)
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
> A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
> - Original Message -
> From: "Luther Gulseth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?
>
>
> > AA, the ML DOES come with the CDI.  It must be ordered
> > that way, like EVERY other car you purchase from MB!
> > I use to think the same exact way, till my plant contact set me straight
> > and told me how it is.
> >
> > Luther
> >
> >
> >
> > ~Agree - I would have thought the ML would have been a perfect fit for a
> > ~diesel -
> > ~
> > ~Also - in Europe, I read that over 1/2 of the S class new car sales had
> > ~diesel engines.
> > ~That would be my "dream MB" - a 96-99 S Class with a large turbo diesel -
> > ~The ultimate in luxury.  I know the W140 is supposed to be vault like --
> > and
> > ~never having driven a W140 or the newer S CLass (W220?) I can't really
> > speak
> > ~from experience but I would suspect the newer S Class would be close to
> > the
> > ~W140 in luxury and ride quality - probably not as good build quality as
> > the
> > ~W140 but it'd be nice to have the option.  I'd like to see some on the
> > used
> > ~car market -
> > ~
> > ~Oh well - I wonder of MB listens to the public?
> > ~
> > ~Sincerely,
> > ~Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
> > ~A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> > ~For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> > ~Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> > ~http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
> > ~- Original Message -
> > ~From: "Kevin J. Slater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > ~To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > ~Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:53 AM
> > ~Subject: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?
> > ~
> > ~
> > ~>I don't get MB. You'd think they'd start putting diesel engines in more
> > ~> cars. I know that folks who buy a new MB can usually afford to put
> > ~> gasoline in the tank, but at the same time, there must be a large cross
> > ~> section that would like to be able to say they get really good mileage
> > in
> > ~> their new XX class MB. Donchathink?
> > ~>
> > ~> ...Kevin
> > ~> 87 300TD 283k mi
> > ~>
> > ~>
> > ~> --
> > ~> "Thank God for Microsoft" -- Linus Torvalds
> > ~>
> > ~> ___
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> > ~
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> >
> > --
> > Luther KB5QHU
> > Alma, Ark
> > '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi)
> > '82 300CD (159,222 kmi)
> > '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
> >
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1996 Sidekick 57K "Kermit"

Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen boost gimmicks?

2006-04-25 Thread David Brodbeck


Mitch Haley wrote:
you have to MAKE the hydrogen from somewhere -- it is never 
free in nature.



Yep, the "hydrogen economy" is just a fancy term for
"potentially explosive storage medium". It's all about storing
and transporting electricity, not a power source. Unfortunately,
the congresscritters (and the sheeple who follow them) all seem
to think that hydrogen is a power source. 
  


It's a brilliant stalling tactic.  They get to hand out billions in R&D 
subsidies to car companies, they get to look like they're "doing 
something," and it doesn't threaten the oil interests that line their 
pockets one whit.  Meanwhile the car companies get to tout their latest 
toy fuel cell car as proof that they're "thinking green."

Re: [MBZ] Mac to PC

2006-04-25 Thread Curt Raymond

You don't really. In most cases you just add the correct file extension and 
you're off.

  Of course that can be a pain if you've got a boatload of files...

  -Curt

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I wondered about that.  Now, if I only knew how to format the Mac files 
PC.
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Biodiesel] The Time Has Come...
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According to http://www.wnbiodiesel.com/products.html biowIllie biodiesel i=
s
a 100% renewable fuel.

I love the marketing angle - it's sheer brilliance.

On 4/25/06, ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> what do you want to know? a quick search on "biowille" turns up plenty
> of links,... here's a few:
>
> www.wnbiodiesel.com
>
> biowillie.com
>
> www.cafepress.com/wnbiodiesel
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/30/business/30biowillie.html?ex=3D12935988=
00&en=3D3b0ae71846ac300a&ei=3D5088&partner=3Drssnyt&emc=3Drss
>
> http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060331/20060331005577.html?.v=3D1
>
> www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11252701/
>
>
>doesn't look like too much to get excited about though; by some
> accounts, it's only B20 (20% Biodiesel/80% stinky diesel).
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
>
>
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know about Biowillie fuel?
> >
> > On 4/25/06, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > See this.  We use it in SoCal and are very happy.
> > >
> > > http://www.lovecraftbiofuels.com
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > On Behalf Of Andrew Cunningham
> > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:44 PM
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Biodiesel] The Time Has Come...
> > >
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > Get yourself some "eazy heat" *self-regulating* heating tape and run
> that
> > > up
> > > and down along your injector lines.  It won't over heat the fuel sinc=
e
> the
> > > output drops as it heats up.  Second thing is to loop your return lin=
e
> to
> > > help keep the fuel hot.  Third is to place an automatic air seperator
> > > between the lift pump and the large filter.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/23/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Biodiesel List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:31 PM
> > > > Subject: [Biodiesel] The Time Has Come...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Well kids, the time has come for me

Re: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?

2006-04-25 Thread l02turner


Luther wrote:<>>

Thanks Luther,
I have learned something useful!!  Now, when I hit the lottery I can order a 
ML Diesel!!

;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message - 
From: "Luther Gulseth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?


AA, the ML DOES come with the CDI.  It must be ordered 
that way, like EVERY other car you purchase from MB!
I use to think the same exact way, till my plant contact set me straight 
and told me how it is.


Luther



~Agree - I would have thought the ML would have been a perfect fit for a
~diesel -
~
~Also - in Europe, I read that over 1/2 of the S class new car sales had
~diesel engines.
~That would be my "dream MB" - a 96-99 S Class with a large turbo diesel -
~The ultimate in luxury.  I know the W140 is supposed to be vault like --  
and
~never having driven a W140 or the newer S CLass (W220?) I can't really 
speak
~from experience but I would suspect the newer S Class would be close to 
the
~W140 in luxury and ride quality - probably not as good build quality as 
the
~W140 but it'd be nice to have the option.  I'd like to see some on the 
used

~car market -
~
~Oh well - I wonder of MB listens to the public?
~
~Sincerely,
~Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
~A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
~For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
~Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
~http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
~- Original Message - 
~From: "Kevin J. Slater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

~To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:53 AM
~Subject: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?
~
~
~>I don't get MB. You'd think they'd start putting diesel engines in more
~> cars. I know that folks who buy a new MB can usually afford to put
~> gasoline in the tank, but at the same time, there must be a large cross
~> section that would like to be able to say they get really good mileage 
in

~> their new XX class MB. Donchathink?
~>
~> ...Kevin
~> 87 300TD 283k mi
~>
~>
~> -- 
~> "Thank God for Microsoft" -- Linus Torvalds

~>
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'82 300CD (159,222 kmi)
'82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Biodiesel] The Time Has Come...

2006-04-25 Thread ernest breakfield

what do you want to know? a quick search on "biowille" turns up plenty
of links,... here's a few:

www.wnbiodiesel.com

biowillie.com

www.cafepress.com/wnbiodiesel 

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/30/business/30biowillie.html?ex=1293598800&en=3b0ae71846ac300a&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060331/20060331005577.html?.v=1

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11252701/ 


doesn't look like too much to get excited about though; by some
accounts, it's only B20 (20% Biodiesel/80% stinky diesel).


cheers!
e



andrew strasfogel wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know about Biowillie fuel?
> 
> On 4/25/06, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > See this.  We use it in SoCal and are very happy.
> >
> > http://www.lovecraftbiofuels.com
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Andrew Cunningham
> > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:44 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Biodiesel] The Time Has Come...
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > Get yourself some "eazy heat" *self-regulating* heating tape and run that
> > up
> > and down along your injector lines.  It won't over heat the fuel since the
> > output drops as it heats up.  Second thing is to loop your return line to
> > help keep the fuel hot.  Third is to place an automatic air seperator
> > between the lift pump and the large filter.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > On 4/23/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Biodiesel List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:31 PM
> > > Subject: [Biodiesel] The Time Has Come...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well kids, the time has come for me to start assembling the stuff to
> > > start
> > > > using WVO in my 300D.
> > > > I believe I will use the single tank method (since I'm here in the hot
> > > > desert) and see how it goes. It seems no one around these parts has
> > any
> > > > emperical data on employing WVO without using all the heaters and
> > stuff
> > > > yous guys back east need.
> > > > I did see (on the webola) some feller who was hawking his system of
> > > > heating the injector lines...does that seem like a good idea?
> > > > Any words of wisdom would be welcome.
> > > >
> > > > Bob Rentfro
> > > > '77 300D 151K
> > > > Litchfield Park, AZ
> > > > ___
> > > > http://www.striplin.net
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> > > >
> > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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> > > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen boost gimmicks?


> you have to MAKE the hydrogen from somewhere -- it is never 
> free in nature.

Yep, the "hydrogen economy" is just a fancy term for
"potentially explosive storage medium". It's all about storing
and transporting electricity, not a power source. Unfortunately,
the congresscritters (and the sheeple who follow them) all seem
to think that hydrogen is a power source.

Re: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?

Larry,

Your "dream MB" does exist - Mercedes built it for sale in Europe.
It's the W140.135, which is a W140 chassis with a 177hp intercooled,
turbocharged OM606.961 engine (similar to what the 98-99 E300 has here
in the USA). I would seriously consider buying one if I ever found a
clean example for sale on this side of the pond. They're very rare in
the USA, I think just a handful came over, imported by diplomats or
executives. Pretty sure it was badged the "S300", not to be confused
with the rodbending 300SD, 350SDL, or S350.

=)

-Dave M.

> --
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:24:43 -0400
> From: Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?
>
>
> ~Also - in Europe, I read that over 1/2 of the S class new car sales had
> ~diesel engines.
> ~That would be my "dream MB" - a 96-99 S Class with a large turbo diesel -
> ~The ultimate in luxury.  I know the W140 is supposed to be vault like -- and
> ~never having driven a W140 or the newer S CLass (W220?) I can't really speak
> ~from experience but I would suspect the newer S Class would be close to the
> ~W140 in luxury and ride quality - probably not as good build quality as the
> ~W140 but it'd be nice to have the option.  I'd like to see some on the used
> ~car market -
> ~
> ~Oh well - I wonder of MB listens to the public?
> ~
> ~Sincerely,

Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen boost gimmicks?

The only way you are going to extract hydrogen from tap water is 
electrolysis, and the energy input is gonna be higher than the output 
UNLESS you have very dramatic improvements in combustion.


The latter I don't know about, but the "hydrogen economy" is a load of 
bunk.  All commercial hydrogen comes from coal fired electrolysis 
plants or processing of natural gas with the release of all the carbon 
as CO2.  Sure, it will only produce water and electricity in a fuel 
cell (that does not currently fit inside a car and costs $30,000 or 
so), but you have to MAKE the hydrogen from somewhere -- it is never 
free in nature.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] ... Computer Question

Depending on the version of the operating systems, you may just be able 
to network the two computers and enable file sharing, allowing direct 
transfer.  However, you must be sure that the PC programs involved can 
read the data -- it may be necessary to save the Mac data in PC format.


Any removable media should be readable by both if you use the correct 
formats -- for instance, burn all CDs as ISO 9600 format (or the one 
with the funny name), as that is the standard for PCs.  The Mac will 
read and write them all.


Much easier if you were going the other way.

You can get an external CD writer and use DragonBurn (or something 
similar) -- it runs under OS 9 as well as OS X, so unless you are 
dealing with a truely ancient machine, that should do it.


Biggest problem may be software -- not all PC programs can see Mac data!

Peter

Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Biodiesel] The Time Has Come...

2006-04-25 Thread andrew strasfogel

Does anyone know about Biowillie fuel?

On 4/25/06, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> See this.  We use it in SoCal and are very happy.
>
> http://www.lovecraftbiofuels.com
>
> Bill
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Andrew Cunningham
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:44 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Biodiesel] The Time Has Come...
>
> Bob,
>
> Get yourself some "eazy heat" *self-regulating* heating tape and run that
> up
> and down along your injector lines.  It won't over heat the fuel since the
> output drops as it heats up.  Second thing is to loop your return line to
> help keep the fuel hot.  Third is to place an automatic air seperator
> between the lift pump and the large filter.
>
> Andy
>
>
> On 4/23/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Biodiesel List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:31 PM
> > Subject: [Biodiesel] The Time Has Come...
> >
> >
> > > Well kids, the time has come for me to start assembling the stuff to
> > start
> > > using WVO in my 300D.
> > > I believe I will use the single tank method (since I'm here in the hot
> > > desert) and see how it goes. It seems no one around these parts has
> any
> > > emperical data on employing WVO without using all the heaters and
> stuff
> > > yous guys back east need.
> > > I did see (on the webola) some feller who was hawking his system of
> > > heating the injector lines...does that seem like a good idea?
> > > Any words of wisdom would be welcome.
> > >
> > > Bob Rentfro
> > > '77 300D 151K
> > > Litchfield Park, AZ
> > > ___
> > > http://www.striplin.net
> > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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> > >
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Yep, the time has come.

2006-04-25 Thread Gerald R. Flintrop

For soy and peanut oils, I've seen weights per gallon listed between 7.5 and
7.7 pounds. That would make the number of gallons in 35 lbs somewhere
between 4.54 and 4.64.

According to http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/ah697/ah697.pdf it is ~7.7
lbs/gal for both.
 
YMMV,

Jerry Flintrop

On Apr 24, 2006, at 8:00 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:

> I'm curious - how many gallons are in a 35 pound container of fry oil?

Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen boost gimmicks?



> Doesn't sound like much energy is there... I've read that if an 18 
> wheeler was run on hydrogen that 4/5ths of the trailer would have to
> be the fuel tank to get comparable energy. Even after serious
> compression!

If you are generating H2 & O2 from electrolysis of water powered by
an inefficient automotive alternator, the system is clearly going to
take more HP out of the crankshaft than you can get from burning the H2.

OTOH, if the H2 aided the combustion of the diesel fuel (like propane does) it 
might be a net benefit. I would think that adding $2/gallon propane to the air 
intake would be more cost effective, but water is easier to replenish and safer 
to carry in the car.

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 5, Issue 132

2006-04-25 Thread David Brodbeck


archer wrote:

I wondered about that.  Now, if I only knew how to format the Mac files PC.
  


Format the external *drive* with the PC.  Then copy the files from the 
Mac to it.  The Mac will recognize the PC drive just fine.  Most Mac 
file formats are readable on the PC, it's just that the Mac hard disk 
format isn't.

Re: [MBZ] pushbutton ACC & soldering irons

2006-04-25 Thread David Brodbeck


Mitch Haley wrote:

I've got a little 15W, takes a while to heat up.


I've got a selectable 15W/30W I bought years ago at Radio Shack.  I 
never use the 15W setting.  It's too cool and the recovery time is too 
long.  Even when soldering sensitive parts, I prefer to use a hot iron 
so I can make the joint quickly before the component itself has time to 
heat up.



My favorite all around
iron died on me after 15 years, I have to get another one. It looks like
a big fat orange pencil, runs on butane, and adjusts for 15-60W. Got it
on sale at Radio Shack for $20 back in the 1980's. Mine says "Archer" on it,
I think the real brand name is Portasol or Butasol, something like that.


I just bought one of those!  They're red now, you can still get them at 
Radio Shack, and they don't cost much more than they did in the 1980s.  
Try a stand-alone store -- the mall stores have only a third of the 
stock the stand-alone ones do.


I wasn't expecting much, given the price, but it works great.  It heats 
up fast and puts out lots of BTUs, just the trick for outdoor work where 
breezes tend to suck all the heat out of an electric iron.  I used it 
recently to solder a PL259 connector, including the braid -- anyone 
who's tried this will tell you it demands a lot of heat capacity.  My 
electric pencil iron could never cut it, but with this one it was a 
piece of cake.


It does use butane at a prodigious rate, though, so for indoor work I 
still plug in the electric pencil iron. ;)



David Brodbeck
'83 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen boost gimmicks?

How much water are you going to have to carry to get some boost from 
this? And doesn't hydrogen have an atomic number of 1?


Doesn't sound like much energy is there... I've read that if an 18 
wheeler was run on hydrogen that 4/5ths of the trailer would have to be 
the fuel tank to get comparable energy. Even after serious compression!


Let him pay the $247 and we'll all learn from him.

Also, the $1.99 website they have makes me suspicious, not to mention 
the $2 per metric tonne components pictured. ("Wow, they look just like 
the parts in my Buick") Nuff said!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Idiot Needle

So, what is the best way to add a nice bright idiot light so that I 
will quickly see it if the oil pressure drops

off while I am driving?


A simple comparator (LM311?) watching the signal to the gauge
ought to do it.  Entirely as a bolt-on to the back of the
instrument cluster.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen boost gimmicks?

2006-04-25 Thread John M McIntosh

I saw something about some truck companies testing this in Canada, I  
think it was only a few percent gains, but if one
drove back and forth across Canada as your weekly plan the pennies  
added up.


Oh, and I'm sure I heard President Bush this morning admonishing the  
American public to buy hybrids or "Clean Burning Diesels" to solve

the energy crisis.

On 25-Apr-06, at 9:42 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote:

Uh, we have a few trucks testing this technology.not as ratty  
smelling as you would like.  I know nothing more about it.


Luther

~Anyone have data showing if these work or are hoxes? I couldn't  
locate

~anything on Snopes or Google. Here's a couple of samples:
~
~http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/index.html
~
~http://www.savefuel.ca/\


John
1983 300TDt  364k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990 300TDt  166k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)

Re: [MBZ] Idiot Needle

http://web.eaton.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=EatonCom%2FPage%2FEC_T_TwoThirdsBodyNav&c=Page&cid=1081452650158

or

http://tinyurl.com/ftlsl

This is the transmission we are currently purchasing.  It's a solid 
transmission that won't allow a driver to torque it up to damage a 
driveline/PDL/Diff/clutch.  $aveS many dollar$ with le$$ downtime for 
repair.  Get my drift?

Luther

From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Idiot Needle
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:00:29 -0500

But is it a planetary gear tranny like a benz or a chevy, or an
automatically shifted constant mesh tranny?  There is a difference, and
although I'm out of touch, I do know that for many years there were few
if any automatics in big trucks because they didn't hold up. GM spent a
fortune in the 70s attempting. I'm sure that has changed, but I can
year them shift, so many are still manuals...

I'm quite certain no one would willing wrestle with a 16 speed rather
than an automatic!

Peter



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'83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) 
'82 300CD (159,222 kmi) 
'82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work

Re: [MBZ] For Sale

2006-04-25 Thread andrew strasfogel

I hear it also lubricates fuses, thereby extending their life to over 25,000
miles or 10 years, whichever comes later.



On 4/24/06, W. Lasher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For Sale:
>I have 2 bottles ( 32 ozs. each) of CD-2 super concentrated
> Diesel fuel treatmet, and only need one. It treats 3200 gals. of Diesel.
> Keeps injectors clean, dissolves gum and varnish, disperses water, helps
> eliminate exhaust smoking, yada, yada, yada. $16.00 plus shipping.
>
>ALSO, I got the wrong Air Filter so I have a New Mann Filter
> (C23 148) which fits 1995 300D….
> 87-89190D  2.5 Turbo  and
> 87-9090-93  300D  Turbo………$16.00  plus shipping from 98208 (Everett,
> WA)
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen boost gimmicks?

Uh, we have a few trucks testing this technology.not as ratty smelling as 
you would like.  I know nothing more about it.

Luther

~Anyone have data showing if these work or are hoxes? I couldn't locate
~anything on Snopes or Google. Here's a couple of samples:
~
~http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/index.html
~
~http://www.savefuel.ca/
~
~Basically, they claim to extract hydrogen from plain tap water, then
~let your engine suck that in, for 20% increase in fuel economy. I
~smell a rat... a friend wants to buy one and I'd like to have facts to
~use before I talk him out of it, lol!
~
~
~=)
~
~--
~Dave M.
~Boise, ID
~1994 E500 - 95kmi  (Q-ship)
~1987 300D - 263kmi (Sportline)
~


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'83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) 
'82 300CD (159,222 kmi) 
'82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work

[MBZ] Hydrogen boost gimmicks?

Anyone have data showing if these work or are hoxes? I couldn't locate
anything on Snopes or Google. Here's a couple of samples:

http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/index.html

http://www.savefuel.ca/

Basically, they claim to extract hydrogen from plain tap water, then
let your engine suck that in, for 20% increase in fuel economy. I
smell a rat... a friend wants to buy one and I'd like to have facts to
use before I talk him out of it, lol!


=)

--
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Boise, ID
1994 E500 - 95kmi  (Q-ship)
1987 300D - 263kmi (Sportline)

Re: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?

Pretty sure the article I just read on the new GL class (yeesh, like
we really NEEDED yet another chassis class?) is that MB will be
offering a CDI engine of some sort later this year or in 2007.

I'm still waiting for the twin-turbo CDI V8 in a W211 to come stateside.

:)

-dm

> --
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:53:12 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Kevin J. Slater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?
>
>
> I don't get MB. You'd think they'd start putting diesel engines in more
> cars. I know that folks who buy a new MB can usually afford to put
> gasoline in the tank, but at the same time, there must be a large cross
> section that would like to be able to say they get really good mileage in
> their new XX class MB. Donchathink?
>
> ...Kevin
> 87 300TD 283k mi

Re: [MBZ] Idiot Needle

2006-04-25 Thread R A Bennell

So, what is the best way to add a nice bright idiot light so that I will 
quickly see it if the oil pressure drops
off while I am driving?

On a Ford or Chevy, I would put a T fitting into the block and add a generic 
idiot light sender to trigger the bulb
on the dash.

There must be some more elaborate and fancy way to do this on an MB Diesel, 
right?

Randy B

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:17 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Idiot Needle

I put oil temp and oil pressure gauges on my 200D because i wanted to find
out what is really going on.  With a factory short block, the 200D will
generate over 100 PSI cold.  I have never tried to see how high it will
go.  I drive it in a manner so as to not go over 100PSI.  After it warms up
it runs at 86 PSI.  So you can see, that a warm engine running at less that
3 bar (~45 PSI) is a very tired, worn engine.  With the combination temp
and pressure, I could tell when the car was a quart low on oil, and that is
pretty much time to change the oil anyway.  The pressure would drop about 1
lb and the temp goes up a bit.  In combination, they are as telling as an
exhaust gas pyrometer.  Under extreme load, the temp and pressure change
too.  I just never put in an EGT pyrometer to find the correlation.

Yes, Brian, it is an idiot needle, but it works and prevents a lot of crap
from uninformed MB owners at the stealerships.  After you understand it, it
will tell you a lot about the condition of the bearings.  My 200D will
never come off the peg, even hot and idling.  But it was a very tight
engine out of the factory.

Loren

Loren

At 12:09 AM 4/23/2006, you wrote:
>I've wondered for some time now, and it came up again tonight as I told the
>wife what to look for when she drives the 240D:
>
>Why does the oil pressure gauge simply peg at 3 almost all the time? In
>doing so, it is less a gauge, and more an idiot light. Why didn't Mercedes
>redesign the gauge so that it provided precise feedback as to the pressure?
>
>OR
>
>On the other hand, is it the case that the gauge does provide precise feed
>back, but that's just how the oil pressure acts in a diesel?
>
>It stays pegged except when the engine is completely warm, and it's hot
>outside, and I have come down to idle.
>
>Brian
>83 240D
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Re: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?

I've seen the ML270 CDI in Paris years ago as well as any other variant 
you can think of..well, almost any other variant.


It's also available with the V8 4 litre CDI that puts out more torque 
that the top Ferrari.


Three or four years ago there was a E220 CDI Wagon parked on the corner 
next to my place. It was right hand drive with UK plates.


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Largest Diesel Engine in the World


Yes, it's real all right. We've had that posted on the list numerous times.


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] pushbutton ACC & soldering irons

Jim Cathey wrote:
> 
> I have one soldering iron, I've had it since I was in high school.

I've got a little 15W, takes a while to heat up. I've got a 45W desoldering
iron with vacuum bulb, I have been known to do PC work by filling the head
with solder and then squeezing the bulb to dispense. My favorite all around
iron died on me after 15 years, I have to get another one. It looks like
a big fat orange pencil, runs on butane, and adjusts for 15-60W. Got it
on sale at Radio Shack for $20 back in the 1980's. Mine says "Archer" on it,
I think the real brand name is Portasol or Butasol, something like that. The
old one developed a leak and won't hold gas any more, probably could fix it
with an o-ring if I could get it apart without ruining it. 

Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Colors

2006-04-25 Thread tom savage


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Every Honda and it's ilk are silver. I go to the MB dealer and the lot is 
full of silver, gray and the occasional black.


Boooring!


Indeed.  The w123 was available in 62 colors over its production run. 
The w203 is available in nine - white, two blacks, three grays, two dark 
reds, and blue.  Ugh.


I'm sure the C350 six-speed is a real treat to drive, but only if I can 
get it in Colorado Beige or Nickel Grun.


Tom

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 5, Issue 132


I wondered about that.  Now, if I only knew how to format the Mac files PC.
Gerry
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Format 'em PC, the PC won't read Mac drives without help. I think all Macs 
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 -Curt

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:18:35 -0400 "archer" wrote:

My next door neighbor, a widow, wants to transfer her data from an old
Mac to a new PC. I have external harddrives big enough for the
transfer. Can someone suggest a program or method by which this can be
done?

Gerry,
--- 

Are the external hard disks USB or Firewire, or something else?


The external hard disks are USB.


You first want to see if you can connect the external hard disks to both
computers and see if they can be recognized. If that's the case, you can
use the respective operating systems to copy her files onto and then off
of the hard disks (drag and drop, or whatever).
Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?

AA, the ML DOES come with the CDI.  It must be ordered that 
way, like EVERY other car you purchase from MB!  
I use to think the same exact way, till my plant contact set me straight and 
told me how it is.

Luther



~Agree - I would have thought the ML would have been a perfect fit for a 
~diesel -
~
~Also - in Europe, I read that over 1/2 of the S class new car sales had 
~diesel engines.
~That would be my "dream MB" - a 96-99 S Class with a large turbo diesel - 
~The ultimate in luxury.  I know the W140 is supposed to be vault like -- and 
~never having driven a W140 or the newer S CLass (W220?) I can't really speak 
~from experience but I would suspect the newer S Class would be close to the 
~W140 in luxury and ride quality - probably not as good build quality as the 
~W140 but it'd be nice to have the option.  I'd like to see some on the used 
~car market -
~
~Oh well - I wonder of MB listens to the public?
~
~Sincerely,
~Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
~A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
~For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
~Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
~http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
~- Original Message - 
~From: "Kevin J. Slater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:53 AM
~Subject: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?
~
~
~>I don't get MB. You'd think they'd start putting diesel engines in more
~> cars. I know that folks who buy a new MB can usually afford to put
~> gasoline in the tank, but at the same time, there must be a large cross
~> section that would like to be able to say they get really good mileage in
~> their new XX class MB. Donchathink?
~>
~> ...Kevin
~> 87 300TD 283k mi
~>
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Pickups

2006-04-25 Thread Curt Raymond

I've long thought one of those would do real well in an old body style Dakota, 
I bet it'd do pretty close to 30mpg in there.
  Ahh if mine weren't starting to rust...

  -Curt

  Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:22:10 -0600
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> I am purchasing a diesel F-150 XLT pickup from 
http://4btconversions.com
> that has the industrial Cummins 4BT engine and should do about 27MPG 
at
> 70MPH.

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> Gerry,
> 
> Are the external hard disks USB or Firewire, or something else?

The external hard disks are USB.

> You first want to see if you can connect the external hard disks to both
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Re: [MBZ] pushbutton ACC troubleshooting

fail. I tend to pitch electrical components and get another one.  I 
don't

own a range of soldering irons and equipment appropriate for
electronics.  I don't do Automatic trans either.  Just choices I have 
made.


I have one soldering iron, I've had it since I was in high school.
I must admit that there is tremendous satisfaction in effecting a
component-level repair rather than swapping out a new subassembly.
I don't do AT's either.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Biodiesel] The Time Has Come...

2006-04-25 Thread Bill

See this.  We use it in SoCal and are very happy.

http://www.lovecraftbiofuels.com

Bill


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Biodiesel] The Time Has Come...

Bob,

Get yourself some "eazy heat" *self-regulating* heating tape and run that up
and down along your injector lines.  It won't over heat the fuel since the
output drops as it heats up.  Second thing is to loop your return line to
help keep the fuel hot.  Third is to place an automatic air seperator
between the lift pump and the large filter.

Andy


On 4/23/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Biodiesel List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:31 PM
> Subject: [Biodiesel] The Time Has Come...
>
>
> > Well kids, the time has come for me to start assembling the stuff to
> start
> > using WVO in my 300D.
> > I believe I will use the single tank method (since I'm here in the hot
> > desert) and see how it goes. It seems no one around these parts has any
> > emperical data on employing WVO without using all the heaters and stuff
> > yous guys back east need.
> > I did see (on the webola) some feller who was hawking his system of
> > heating the injector lines...does that seem like a good idea?
> > Any words of wisdom would be welcome.
> >
> > Bob Rentfro
> > '77 300D 151K
> > Litchfield Park, AZ
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Re: [MBZ] Carfax

2006-04-25 Thread James Jetton

Yep, Salvage Title.

Report Generated for James S. Jetton
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1987 MERCEDES-BENZ 300DT
WDBEB33D4HA344497
SEDAN 4 DR
3.0L L6 TURBO DIESEL / REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Standard Equipment | Safety Options
CARFAX Safety & Reliability Report
CARFAX Vehicle History - At A Glance
?4 billion vehicle history events checked from public and private sources
?DOES NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee
?Last reported mileage - 51,745 miles

A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to
CARFAX. Other information about this vehicle, including problems, may not have
been reported to CARFAX. Use this report as one important tool, along with a
vehicle inspection and test drive, to make a better decision about your next
used car.

CARFAX guarantees the information in this section
Salvage | Junk | Rebuilt Alert!
Problem Found
Fire/ Flood | Hail Damage | Buyback | Lemon No Problem
Not Actual Mileage | Exceeds Mechanical Limits
No Problem
Alert! Severe problems were reported by a state Department of Motor Vehicles
(DMV). This vehicle does not qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee.

Not all accidents or other issues are reported to CARFAX
Frame Damage Check

No frame damage reported to CARFAX.
No Issues Reported
Airbag Deployment Check

No airbag deployment reported to CARFAX.
No Issues Reported
Odometer Rollback Check

No indication of an odometer rollback.
No Issues Indicated
Accident Check

See State DMV-reported Title Problems above.Alert!
Problem Found
Manufacturer Recall Check

No recalls still require repair.
No Recalls Reported

Basic Warranty Check

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severely damaged.
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1988 MERCEDES-BENZ 300SEL
Price: $5,500.00
Mileage: 160,899
Color: Brown
Body Style: Sedan 4 DR
Engine Type: 3.0L L6 FI
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Distance: 11.59 mi
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1986 MERCEDES-BENZ 300E
Body Style: Sedan 4 DR
Engine Type: 3.0L L6 FI
Free CARFAX Report Saturn of Winston Salem
Distance: 31 mi
Contact Dealer
1987 MERCEDES-BENZ 300DT
Price: $2,900.00
Mileage: 304,000
Color: Grey
Body Style: Sedan 4 DR
Engine Type: 3.0L L6
Free CARFAX Report Foreign Accents
Distance: 11.59 mi
Contact Dealer

A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to
CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 4 billion vehicle history events and found 7
record(s) for this 1987 MERCEDES-BENZ 300DT (WDBEB33D4HA344497).

Date:Mileage:Source:Comments:
04/26/1994 51,745 California
Motor Vehicle Dept. Title or registration issued
12/17/1999 California
Motor Vehicle Dept. Title issued or updated
09/01/2002 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Sierra Madre, CA Title issued or updated
New owner reported
03/10/2005 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Fairfield, CA New owner reported
SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
03/31/2005 California
Motor Vehicle Dept. SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
07/21/2005 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
North Highlands, CA New owner reported
SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
04/25/2006 Mercedes-Benz USA, Inc. No recalls open for repair

James Jetton
1987 300SDL 142k
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Re: [MBZ] Who SHOT Wulf?

Wulf's (300SD) head is fine. Everything on Wulf is fine except the freaking 
gunshot wound.

  Kaleb asked about the 300TD which has a bad head gasket which I am  
replacing. Kaleb is convinced the head is cracked. It may be, but I bet  it is 
not. I think he likes rubbing it in :-)

  Chris

Roger Conlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  What happened to the head?

Roger

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>I might. Depends who all comes with me...and if the head issue is resolved 
>by then.
>
>  CM

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-1987 300TD, 152K, "Rotkäppchen"
-1985 300SD, 213K, "Wulf"
-1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"

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Agree - I would have thought the ML would have been a perfect fit for a 
diesel -

Also - in Europe, I read that over 1/2 of the S class new car sales had 
diesel engines.
That would be my "dream MB" - a 96-99 S Class with a large turbo diesel - 
The ultimate in luxury.  I know the W140 is supposed to be vault like -- and 
never having driven a W140 or the newer S CLass (W220?) I can't really speak 
from experience but I would suspect the newer S Class would be close to the 
W140 in luxury and ride quality - probably not as good build quality as the 
W140 but it'd be nice to have the option.  I'd like to see some on the used 
car market -

Oh well - I wonder of MB listens to the public?

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Subject: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?

>I don't get MB. You'd think they'd start putting diesel engines in more
> cars. I know that folks who buy a new MB can usually afford to put
> gasoline in the tank, but at the same time, there must be a large cross
> section that would like to be able to say they get really good mileage in
> their new XX class MB. Donchathink?
>
> ...Kevin
> 87 300TD 283k mi
>
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Re: [MBZ] pushbutton ACC troubleshooting

You have done a lot more autopsies of electrical components than I.I 
believe you would win the bet.  Cycle related or age related, components 
fail, and from the experience of the group with cruise control, solder 
joints are always a prime suspect.  Whatever the mode of failure, things 
fail. I tend to pitch electrical components and get another one.  I don't 
own a range of soldering irons and equipment appropriate for 
electronics.  I don't do Automatic trans either.  Just choices I have made.

At 11:27 PM 4/24/2006, you wrote:

>   Form an engineering standpoint, there is no reason a 126
> relay should outlive a 123 relay, unless internal components were all
> replaced with ones with a much higher MTBF.  The 123 relays are known
> to
> fail.   Any relay will cycle so many times, then fail.

I will bet money (not much!) that most any such failure is not the
moving parts, but rather a bad colder joint that has developed due to
vibration or thermal cycling, or a dried-out electrolytic capacitor.
Not related to the number of cycles at all.

-- Jim

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[MBZ] Who SHOT Wulf?

2006-04-25 Thread Roger Conlon


What happened to the head?

Roger




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I might. Depends who all comes with me...and if the head issue is resolved 
by then.


 CM


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Re: [MBZ] wanna see some rust?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1980-Mercedes-Benz-450sl-Parts- 
Car_W0QQitemZ4633792134QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


As an extra bonus, it has the Chrysler ACC system!  Bid now and
don't miss this gem!

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT: 2 cyl 20 hp diesel

Good idea.  I'll see if I can chase that one down.   There are 2-3 
possibilities around here


At 07:23 AM 4/25/2006, you wrote:

See if you can find a traffic control company with some junk
arrowboards. Most of the old ones came with Lombardini diesels (The new
ones have solar panels).

Tom Potter

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: 2 cyl 20 hp diesel

I am fed up with a recalcitrant 16 HP briggs engine.  (Horiz. shaft,
upright)  Does anyone know of a cheap source of a cheap 2 cyl diesel of
15-20 hp that i could mount a hydraulic pump to?  I am thinking that a
Yanmar, Kubota or indian or chinese knock off would server better than
the
briggs.  It has always been hard to start and keep running since it was
new.

An aircooled diesel would be an option too.  that eliminates the need
for a
radiator and related maintenance.   I am sure I can buy a new one from
Northern tool , but I am looking for a wrecked lawnmower with a good
engine
CHEEP! CHEEP, like the little birdie said!


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Re: [MBZ] OK, let me rephrase...HELP!

Perfect! Same size as W124 headrests in the 300TD...think I've got myself a 
replacement palamino headrest! Yahoo!

 Danke Herr Doktor!

 Christopher

Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Christopher McCann wrote:
> Does ANYONE have a W201? If so, would you be willing (PLEASE) to do my a BIG 
> favor? Pull out (not all the way, just slightly) a headrest and measure the 
> distance between the two posts...from the oustide of one to the outside of 
> the other.

162 mm (6 3/8").

Marshall
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That's 1 step on the floorboard short of being a Flinstonemobile!

~Good 'ole Salt belt 450sl:
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'82 300CD (159,222 kmi) 
'82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work

Re: [MBZ] Carfax open

2006-04-25 Thread kayoooh @ gmail


I thought no one would ever ask, my account is about to expire!
Anyway, this is not "CarFax" but it should do.

I hope it helps,

Omar.




  The vehicle identification number you submitted has been analyzed and
summary information on your car is shown below.

Report Run Date: 04/25/2006
Vehicle Description: WDBEB33D4HA344497
TitleCheck: Record(s) Found
Problem Check: No Record Found
Odometer Check: Record(s) Found
Vehicle Information: No Record Found
Full History: Record(s) Found

VIN: WDBEB33D4HA344497
Year: 1987
Make: Mercedes-Benz
Model: 300 Series 300D-T
Style/Body: 4 Door Sedan
Engine: 3.0L I-6 FI TDsl
Country of Assembly: Germany



Title Problem Found! AutoCheck's database for this 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300
Series 300D-T (WDBEB33D4HA344497) found historical events that might
indicate a significant automotive problem. These problems can indicate past
automotive damage or warnings associated with the vehicle title.

Problems Checked Results Found
Abandoned  No Abandoned Record Found
Damaged  No Damaged Record Found
Fire Damage  No Fire Damage Record Found
Grey Market  No Grey Market Record Found
Hail Damage  No Hail Damage Record Found
Insurance Loss  No Insurance Loss Record Found
Junk  No Junk Record Found
Rebuilt/Rebuildable  No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Record Found
Salvage  Salvage Record(s) Found



Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1987 Mercedes-Benz
300 Series 300D-T (WDBEB33D4HA344497) shows no historical events that
indicate a significant automotive problem. These problems can indicate
previous car damage, theft, or other significant problem.

Problems Checked Results Found
NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle  No NHTSA Crash Test Record Found
Frame Damage  No Frame Damage Record Found
Major Damage Incident  No Major Damage Record Found
Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon  No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Record Found
Odometer Problem  No Odometer Problem Record Found
Recycled  No Recycled Record Found
Salvage Auction  No Salvage Auction Record Found
Water Damage  No Water Damage Record Found



Your Vehicle Checks Out! For this 1987  Mercedes-Benz  300 Series 300D-T
(WDBEB33D4HA344497) no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was
found. We determine odometer rollbacks by searching for records that
indicate odometer reading that are less than a previously reported value.
Other odometer events can report events of tampering, or possible odometer
breakage.

Report Date: 04/25/2006
Date Reported Odometer Reading
04/26/1994 51,745



Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck shows a clean record for this 1987
Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300D-T (WDBEB33D4HA344497).   For some cars, past
vehicle information may give indication of excessive wear and tear, such as
police cars or taxi use.

Problems Checked Results Found
Accident Data  No Accidents Reported Through State Agencies Or Independent
Sources
Corrected Title  No Corrected Title Record Found
Driver Education  No Driver Education Record Found
Duplicate Title  No Duplicate Title Record Found
Emission/Safety Inspection  No Emission/Safety Inspection Record Found
Fire Damage Incident  No Fire Damage Incident Record Found
Lease  No Lease Record Found
Lien  No Lien Record Found
Livery Use  No Livery Use Record Found
Government Use  No Government Use Record Found
Police Use  No Police Use Record Found
Fleet  No Fleet Record Found
Fleet and/or Rental  No Fleet and/or Rental Record Found
Rental  No Rental Record Found
Fleet and/or Lease  No Fleet and/or Lease Record Found
Repossessed  No Repossessed Record Found
Storm Area Registration/Title  No Storm Area Registration/Title Indicated
Taxi Use  No Taxi Use Record Found
Theft  No Theft Record Found

Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological
order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text.

Report Run Date: 04/25/2006
VIN: WDBEB33D4HA344497  1987  Mercedes-Benz  300 Series 300D-T



Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
04/26/1994 CA 51,745 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV
07/17/1994 SIERRA MADRE, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE
09/27/2002 SIERRA MADRE, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
10/09/2002 SIERRA MADRE, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE
03/10/2005 FAIRFIELD, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE
SALVAGE
07/21/2005 NORTH HIGHLANDS, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION
EVENT/RENEWAL
07/21/2005 NORTH HIGHLANDS, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. SALVAGE
07/31/2005 NORTH HIGHLANDS, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE
SALVAGE




>Message: 10
>Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:08:46 -0700
>From: "Woodlandtaylors" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [MBZ] Carfax open
>Anyone with carfax account open

>Vin # WDBEB33D4HA344497 should be a 1987 300DT

>Ad says salvage title with only 109K miles.

>Thanks,

>Dennis

[MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?

2006-04-25 Thread Kevin J. Slater

I don't get MB. You'd think they'd start putting diesel engines in more
cars. I know that folks who buy a new MB can usually afford to put
gasoline in the tank, but at the same time, there must be a large cross
section that would like to be able to say they get really good mileage in
their new XX class MB. Donchathink?

...Kevin
87 300TD 283k mi


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[MBZ] wanna see some rust?

2006-04-25 Thread Dave Wakin


Good 'ole Salt belt 450sl:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1980-Mercedes-Benz-450sl-Parts-Car_W0QQitemZ4633792134QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Re: [MBZ] OT: 2 cyl 20 hp diesel

2006-04-25 Thread Potter, Tom E

See if you can find a traffic control company with some junk
arrowboards. Most of the old ones came with Lombardini diesels (The new
ones have solar panels). 

Tom Potter

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 9:12 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: 2 cyl 20 hp diesel

I am fed up with a recalcitrant 16 HP briggs engine.  (Horiz. shaft, 
upright)  Does anyone know of a cheap source of a cheap 2 cyl diesel of 
15-20 hp that i could mount a hydraulic pump to?  I am thinking that a 
Yanmar, Kubota or indian or chinese knock off would server better than
the 
briggs.  It has always been hard to start and keep running since it was
new.

An aircooled diesel would be an option too.  that eliminates the need
for a 
radiator and related maintenance.   I am sure I can buy a new one from 
Northern tool , but I am looking for a wrecked lawnmower with a good
engine 
CHEEP! CHEEP, like the little birdie said!


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Re: [MBZ] OT Bud

2006-04-25 Thread Potter, Tom E

My sentiments exactly. Grandpappy had it right.

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Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 8:20 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Bud

Amen, pal.

Like my grandpappy used to say as a Pall Mall dangled from his lips, "If you 
can read the newspaper through it, it ain't worth drinkin'"

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 152K
Litchfield Park, AZ

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Subject: [MBZ] OT Bud

Hi, All.
  IMHO, Bud should be poured back into the horse!
  My $0.02
  Fred Moir
  Lynn MA
  Now back to you regularly running diesels.

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Re: [MBZ] ... Computer Question

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:18:35 -0400 "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

My next door neighbor, a widow, wants to transfer her data from an old
Mac to a new PC.  I have external harddrives big enough for the
transfer.  Can someone suggest a program or method by which this can be
done?

Gerry,

Are the external hard disks USB or Firewire, or something else?

The external hard disks are USB.

> You first want to see if you can connect the external hard disks to both

computers and see if they can be recognized. If that's the case, you can
use the respective operating systems to copy her files onto and then off
of the hard disks (drag and drop, or whatever).

> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 603 gov auction

2006-04-25 Thread Bob DuPuy

Kaleb,
in the description there is a box that indicates a code for condition.
You can click on it for the condition category. Most of the items fall
into the "economically repairable category. The thing is you really
never know why Uncle Sam pulled the engine until you get your hands on
it.

Bob DuPuy

On 4/24/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The other issue is how much to ship it down from Alaska?  I suspect you
> store it until next summer when you do the ArticQ
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2006, at 06:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
> > How do you bid on it?
> >
>

[MBZ] Largest Diesel Engine in the World

2006-04-25 Thread John Peterson


Is this for real?  A friend passed it on to me.

http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsshb/12cyl/

John Peterson
1991 300D 2.5 78k

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Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old squeaky


>

You slopped some coolant on the belt. Just hose it off.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Yep, the time has come.

2006-04-25 Thread John Berryman



On Apr 24, 2006, at 8:00 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:


I'm curious - how many gallons are in a 35 pound container of fry oil?


5

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] ... Computer Question

2006-04-25 Thread Craig McCluskey

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:18:35 -0400 "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My next door neighbor, a widow, wants to transfer her data from an old
> Mac to a new PC.  I have external harddrives big enough for the
> transfer.  Can someone suggest a program or method by which this can be
> done?

Gerry,

Are the external hard disks USB or Firewire, or something else?

You first want to see if you can connect the external hard disks to both
computers and see if they can be recognized. If that's the case, you can
use the respective operating systems to copy her files onto and then off
of the hard disks (drag and drop, or whatever).

Craig

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Pickups

2006-04-25 Thread Kevin

On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:22:10PM -0600, Craig McCluskey wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:53:42 -0400 "Smith, Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > I am purchasing a diesel F-150 XLT pickup from http://4btconversions.com
> > that has the industrial Cummins 4BT engine and should do about 27MPG at
> > 70MPH.
> 
> They say, "Projected 26-28 mpg on Petro Diesel and 30-32 on B-100."
> 
> So how do they get more with B-100?

Probably using the same method that erroneously was giving hybrids
20% more than they really get on real streets with real fuel.

K

Re: [MBZ] Diesel land speed record attempt


Clessie Cummins would be proud!

At 12:26 PM 4/24/2006, you wrote:

Greetings all,

I came across this article in today's Times of London Driving Supplement
and thought some may like to read it.


http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22750-2145162,00.html

Enjoy!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD


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Re: [MBZ] OT: 2 cyl 20 hp diesel


Thanks Don,

Anybody know what the hatz diesel engines are?  Look to be air cooled, 2 
cyl.  There is not much info about them.  The one yanmar is too small.


At 11:00 PM 4/24/2006, you wrote:

I beleive there were a few in this listing -- not on the first page
though - you have to dig for them.

http://www.govliquidation.com/list/c7601/lna/1.html


On 4/24/06, Frederick Moir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> www.hardydiesel.com
>
> Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I am fed up with a 
recalcitrant 16 HP briggs engine. (Horiz. shaft,

> upright) Does anyone know of a cheap source of a cheap 2 cyl diesel of
> 15-20 hp that i could mount a hydraulic pump to? I am thinking that a
> Yanmar, Kubota or indian or chinese knock off would server better than the
> briggs. It has always been hard to start and keep running since it was new.
>
> An aircooled diesel would be an option too. that eliminates the need for a
> radiator and related maintenance. I am sure I can buy a new one from
> Northern tool , but I am looking for a wrecked lawnmower with a good engine
> CHEEP! CHEEP, like the little birdie said!
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Re: [MBZ] pushbutton ACC troubleshooting


  Form an engineering standpoint, there is no reason a 126
relay should outlive a 123 relay, unless internal components were all
replaced with ones with a much higher MTBF.  The 123 relays are known 
to

fail.   Any relay will cycle so many times, then fail.


I will bet money (not much!) that most any such failure is not the
moving parts, but rather a bad colder joint that has developed due to
vibration or thermal cycling, or a dried-out electrolytic capacitor.
Not related to the number of cycles at all.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] my 1981 300CD was type II or type III ACC system?

2006-04-25 Thread kevin kraly


What you don't spend on a
new servo you can apply towards new window seals!

I'm already planning that since good used seals just aren't out there.  It 
has the usual gaps between the front and rear sections, so I'll have to get 
that straightened out before the next rainy season.  It does have a garage 
to live in, so it won't be as bad as the last one.  BTW, the servo in the 
previous 1978 300CD  went out totally after I sold it.  I sure hope that I 
have better luck with this one!  I tried starting it by dripping a little 
diesel into the intake, but it just coughed and sputtered, much better than 
the 220D.  Is this what tight valves can cause?  The PO had the car for over 
three years as a daily driver and never once took it in for valve 
adjustments.  Tomorrow, I'm going to adjust them with my dad's help, his 
1:1/16" socket, and my new wrenches.


Wish me luck and pray that the thing starts with a huge cloud of cmoke and 
lots of klatta klatta!


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
Giesela, 1981 300CD 204K miles

Re: [MBZ] Colors

A few years ago at the factory, we saw an E wagon with a  blue-green it was 
a nice color and very unusual.  Almost all the cars on the assembly were 
silver, more like Astral and black.  Yuk, black cars are high maintenance, 
and come with uppity, see me owners.  Of course there were a few with the 
german taxi color too!

I really like my smoke silver SDL though.  That is my preference for a 126, 
although burgundy is nice.  My favorite for 123 and 107 is Midnight blue, 
also with Burgundy for a second.  For a few months I had matching burgundy 
123 107 and 126.  Now the 123 is gone.

At 10:15 PM 4/24/2006, you wrote:

> < or
> white -- or some similar color.   Not only are any body dings less
> noticeable
> but they stay "looking" clean even when they're filthy.>>
>
Every Honda and it's ilk are silver. I go to the MB dealer and the lot is
full of silver, gray and the occasional black.

Boooring!

I have no idea what color my hoped for W204 will be but it won't be a
sales-manager's choice hue, that's for certain.

I hear some new colors are coming and I sure hope so.

RLE

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[MBZ] Carfax open

2006-04-25 Thread Woodlandtaylors

Anyone with carfax account open

 

Vin # WDBEB33D4HA344497 should be a 1987 300DT 

 

Ad says salvage title with only 109K miles.

 

Thanks,

 

Dennis

 


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Re: [MBZ] What E320 to purchase '99 or '00? How about an older 400E?

2006-04-25 Thread OK Don

All noise, no action.

On 4/24/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yep.  Did you get any storms earlier today?  The ones that were out your
> way are now rolling by us at the moment.
>

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'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go

Re: [MBZ] OT: 2 cyl 20 hp diesel

2006-04-25 Thread OK Don

I beleive there were a few in this listing -- not on the first page
though - you have to dig for them.

http://www.govliquidation.com/list/c7601/lna/1.html


On 4/24/06, Frederick Moir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> www.hardydiesel.com
>
> Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I am fed up with a recalcitrant 16 HP 
> briggs engine. (Horiz. shaft,
> upright) Does anyone know of a cheap source of a cheap 2 cyl diesel of
> 15-20 hp that i could mount a hydraulic pump to? I am thinking that a
> Yanmar, Kubota or indian or chinese knock off would server better than the
> briggs. It has always been hard to start and keep running since it was new.
>
> An aircooled diesel would be an option too. that eliminates the need for a
> radiator and related maintenance. I am sure I can buy a new one from
> Northern tool , but I am looking for a wrecked lawnmower with a good engine
> CHEEP! CHEEP, like the little birdie said!
>
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'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go

Re: [MBZ] OT Bud

2006-04-25 Thread Chuck Landenberger

I agree...  Just enjoying a Bavarian Hefeweizen and watching  
Diamondbacks game  game? what game?


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Apr 24, 2006, at 8:24 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:


That's the German way!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:59:54 -0500, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Who SHOT Wulf?

Now that would be pretty cool. I'd feel alot better if I knew it to be the case!

 Chris

Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Perhaps it was a meterorite, you 
know a small piece of space debris.

Hendrik
always thinking outside the square

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Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Who SHOT Wulf?

CarefulYour precious Wulf could be held as evidence if an
investigation occurs or is already ongoing.

Mike
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Who SHOT Wulf?

Tend to agree, but I'm taking it down anyway.

  CM (really ticked off)

  Y'all get to see the hole at the Okie Q.

"Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:  I doubt they will go thru
all that trouble

James Zavesky wrote:

> have local law enforcement extract it and do the forensics on it. you may
> have a shooter in the area you may not know of.
>
> James Zavesky
>
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] Idiot Needle


Let me check on that, I'll respond tomorrow from work.

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:00:29 -0500, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



But is it a planetary gear tranny like a benz or a chevy, or an
automatically shifted constant mesh tranny?  There is a difference, and
although I'm out of touch, I do know that for many years there were few
if any automatics in big trucks because they didn't hold up. GM spent a
fortune in the 70s attempting. I'm sure that has changed, but I can
year them shift, so many are still manuals...

I'm quite certain no one would willing wrestle with a 16 speed rather
than an automatic!

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Re: [MBZ] Who SHOT Wulf?

I might. Depends who all comes with me...and if the head issue is resolved by 
then.

 CM

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Christopher McCann wrote:

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>   
>   CM (really ticked off)
>   
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>   
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That's the German way!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:59:54 -0500, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I read a long time ago that "all American beer tastes the same after
> the first six pack".
> Beer should be strong, black, and bitter.
>
> On 4/24/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Amen, pal.
>>
>> Like my grandpappy used to say as a Pall Mall dangled from his lips,  
>> "If you
>> can read the newspaper through it, it ain't worth drinkin'"
>>
>> Bob Rentfro
>> '77 300D 152K
>> Litchfield Park, AZ
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Pickups

2006-04-25 Thread Craig McCluskey

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:53:42 -0400 "Smith, Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I am purchasing a diesel F-150 XLT pickup from http://4btconversions.com
> that has the industrial Cummins 4BT engine and should do about 27MPG at
> 70MPH.

They say, "Projected 26-28 mpg on Petro Diesel and 30-32 on B-100."

So how do they get more with B-100?


Craig

Re: [MBZ] Colors

2006-04-25 Thread Sunil Hari

Smoke silver still looks classy, though.  Hides dirt well, and just looks
regal.

I still really want a 123 or 115 in a vibrant orange, yellow or green.

On 4/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > < silver
> > or
> > white -- or some similar color. Not only are any body dings less
> > noticeable
> > but they stay "looking" clean even when they're filthy.>>
> >
> Every Honda and it's ilk are silver. I go to the MB dealer and the lot is
> full of silver, gray and the occasional black.
>
> Boooring!
>
> I have no idea what color my hoped for W204 will be but it won't be a
> sales-manager's choice hue, that's for certain.
>
> I hear some new colors are coming and I sure hope so.
>
> RLE
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 603 gov auction

2006-04-25 Thread redghost

The other issue is how much to ship it down from Alaska?  I suspect you 
store it until next summer when you do the ArticQ


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How do you bid on it?

Bob DuPuy wrote:

Someone posted this to my Mog list. I thought someone here might be 
interested.

http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=857464&convertTo=USD
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Re: [MBZ] 603 gov auction

2006-04-25 Thread Mike Canfield

Hey there's a good reason to revive that road trip to Alaska and bring back 
a bunch of them..One in each trunk should do.LOL, Mike
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wonder what shipping would be

Bob DuPuy wrote:


Look in the upper right corner and click on the register button. Note
the auction starts 5/9 The items are in Alaska and they have more than
one at that location.
I figured at least the heads would be worth the trouble. These are the
3.5l engines and I think they came out of G wagons.

Bob DuPuy

On 4/24/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


How do you bid on it?

Bob DuPuy wrote:


Someone posted this to my Mog list. I thought someone here might be 
interested.

http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=857464&convertTo=USD
Bob DuPuy
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Re: [MBZ] What E320 to purchase '99 or '00? How about an older 400E?

2006-04-25 Thread dave walton

If you find a 99 E-class with ESP (Stability Control), the safety features
(front, side, and head curtain airbags) might outweigh the rust issues. They
do have lots of electronics to go bad, but are a pleasure to drive.

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 4/24/06, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A friend has decided to purchase his first Mercedes and asked for my
> advice.  He's 47, works hard and deserves to drive something nice than the
> '91 Ford he currently owns.  He has a budget between $12 - $18K, and his
> choices boil down to a '92 400E at around $12K, a '99 green/parchment 60K
> E320 for $15,900, a 2000 E320 with 74K miles for the same price ($15,900),
> and a 54K immaculately maintained black/black '99 E320 from the local
> dealer
> for $18K.  Any thoughts/suggestions?  All gave clean Car fax reports and
> are
> clean, with service records and no obvious current problems.  The '99 is a
> real beauty but is too old for a Star Mark warranty.  The 2000 is not
> being
> sold by a dealer so no Star Mark either...  Any "fatal flaws" in either of
> these models for any particular model years he should know about?  What
> about repair costs?  Any reason to own a 2000 with 20K more miles than a
> '99
> model E320?
>
> Andrew
> No car younger than 21 years old
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Re: [MBZ] Colors

> < or
> white -- or some similar color.   Not only are any body dings less 
> noticeable
> but they stay "looking" clean even when they're filthy.>>
> 
Every Honda and it's ilk are silver. I go to the MB dealer and the lot is 
full of silver, gray and the occasional black.

Boooring!

I have no idea what color my hoped for W204 will be but it won't be a 
sales-manager's choice hue, that's for certain.

I hear some new colors are coming and I sure hope so.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] What E320 to purchase '99 or '00? How about an older 400E?

2006-04-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yep.  Did you get any storms earlier today?  The ones that were out your 
way are now rolling by us at the moment.


OK Don wrote:

He can probably buy two '90 - '93 300D 2.5 turbos with the money, and
always have a running car - no worries at all.

Don't the '90 and later gas models have the biodegrading wiring harness?




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 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] 603 gov auction

2006-04-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

crap, they have several of them.  Im going to look into this.  Might 
have a good deal on 603 engines in the near future.


Bob DuPuy wrote:


Look in the upper right corner and click on the register button. Note
the auction starts 5/9 The items are in Alaska and they have more than
one at that location.
I figured at least the heads would be worth the trouble. These are the
3.5l engines and I think they came out of G wagons.

Bob DuPuy

On 4/24/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


How do you bid on it?

Bob DuPuy wrote:



Someone posted this to my Mog list. I thought someone here might be interested.
http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=857464&convertTo=USD
Bob DuPuy
Parrish, FL

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84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] 603 gov auction

2006-04-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin


wonder what shipping would be

Bob DuPuy wrote:


Look in the upper right corner and click on the register button. Note
the auction starts 5/9 The items are in Alaska and they have more than
one at that location.
I figured at least the heads would be worth the trouble. These are the
3.5l engines and I think they came out of G wagons.

Bob DuPuy

On 4/24/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


How do you bid on it?

Bob DuPuy wrote:



Someone posted this to my Mog list. I thought someone here might be interested.
http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=857464&convertTo=USD
Bob DuPuy
Parrish, FL

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84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Sportline swaybars for sale

They will reduce body roll. I had that setup on both my W124 diesels.

:)

-dm

> --
> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:57:39 -0400
> From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Sportline swaybars for sale
>
>
> what do sportline swaybars do to the handling of a diesel 124?

Re: [MBZ] OT: 2 cyl 20 hp diesel

2006-04-25 Thread Frederick Moir

www.hardydiesel.com

Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I am fed up with a recalcitrant 16 HP 
briggs engine. (Horiz. shaft, 
upright) Does anyone know of a cheap source of a cheap 2 cyl diesel of 
15-20 hp that i could mount a hydraulic pump to? I am thinking that a 
Yanmar, Kubota or indian or chinese knock off would server better than the 
briggs. It has always been hard to start and keep running since it was new.

An aircooled diesel would be an option too. that eliminates the need for a 
radiator and related maintenance. I am sure I can buy a new one from 
Northern tool , but I am looking for a wrecked lawnmower with a good engine 
CHEEP! CHEEP, like the little birdie said!

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Bob,

Get yourself some "eazy heat" *self-regulating* heating tape and run that u=
p
and down along your injector lines.  It won't over heat the fuel since the
output drops as it heats up.  Second thing is to loop your return line to
help keep the fuel hot.  Third is to place an automatic air seperator
between the lift pump and the large filter.

Andy

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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>
> > Well kids, the time has come for me to start assembling the stuff to
> start
> > using WVO in my 300D.
> > I believe I will use the single tank method (since I'm here in the hot
> > desert) and see how it goes. It seems no one around these parts has any
> > emperical data on employing WVO without using all the heaters and stuff
> > yous guys back east need.
> > I did see (on the webola) some feller who was hawking his system of
> > heating the injector lines...does that seem like a good idea?
> > Any words of wisdom would be welcome.
> >
> > Bob Rentfro
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Re: [MBZ] Yeager vs Crossfield

I'm sure the noise will go on for a while, but I suspect the plain 
facts are he was in a small plane in fairly suddenly appearing severe 
weather.  Something, either pilot or plane, failed, and he went down.  
After all, he was 80 something, he may have died while flying, it's 
happend before.  I commercial aircraft, no less.


Peter

[MBZ] OT: 2 cyl 20 hp diesel

I am fed up with a recalcitrant 16 HP briggs engine.  (Horiz. shaft, 
upright)  Does anyone know of a cheap source of a cheap 2 cyl diesel of 
15-20 hp that i could mount a hydraulic pump to?  I am thinking that a 
Yanmar, Kubota or indian or chinese knock off would server better than the 
briggs.  It has always been hard to start and keep running since it was new.


An aircooled diesel would be an option too.  that eliminates the need for a 
radiator and related maintenance.   I am sure I can buy a new one from 
Northern tool , but I am looking for a wrecked lawnmower with a good engine 
CHEEP! CHEEP, like the little birdie said!

Re: [MBZ] Idiot Needle

But is it a planetary gear tranny like a benz or a chevy, or an 
automatically shifted constant mesh tranny?  There is a difference, and 
although I'm out of touch, I do know that for many years there were few 
if any automatics in big trucks because they didn't hold up. GM spent a 
fortune in the 70s attempting. I'm sure that has changed, but I can 
year them shift, so many are still manuals...


I'm quite certain no one would willing wrestle with a 16 speed rather 
than an automatic!


Peter

Re: [MBZ] Idiot Needle