Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread Jim Cathey
So, if you would be so kind, splain to me just how the engine limits the fuel load based on the air charge? What, other than throttle position at the IP, limits fuel volume at the injector for each RPM of the engine? The ALDA, working in conjunction with the governor inside the IP that also

Re: [MBZ] Efficiency. Was:Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread Fmiser
G Mann wrote: So when a diesel engine is under load and over fueled and makes loads of black smoke due to unburned fuel there is still an excess of air just along for the ride *smiles* No. What I said was: Except an wide-open, max power a diesel engine always has an excess of air. The

Re: [MBZ] Delvac sale at Oreally?

2011-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Better for your car than what? M1? No. You've got to remember there are other places where it gets cold in the winter. Living in New England Mobil 1 is your best friend when it comes to cold weather starts, even 15w50 is... But a little of each in the freezer and see which one pours better, do

Re: [MBZ] Stop me before I buy a Biobuddy

2011-07-16 Thread Max Dillon
Ok, maybe I should have used lurk vice post. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey I have NEVER knowingly posted on Banned. I can barely survive the polite list. On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Max Dillon

Re: [MBZ] Another folly to soon end

2011-07-16 Thread Dieselhead
So when will DIFI get a bill passed to remove the subsiudies for big oil? Oh! Wait! Big oil owns her!Will never happen. By Bill Mattos Special to The Bee Published: Friday, Jul. 15, 2011 - 12:00 am | Page 17A The U.S. Senate recently voted 73-27 in favor of an amendment

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread G Mann
H... I'll consider all this. I'm not getting a full compute on all the relationship the ALDA has. Manifold vacuum? seems to be a missing element on diesels in general, thus the persistent use of vacuum pumps. I find a vacuum line going to the IP on my 300D but it only goes to the shutdown

Re: [MBZ] Efficiency. Was:Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread G Mann
Thanks Phillip. Excellent comments. I really appreciate the engineering level discussion on how it all works with that applied to MBZ and how they worked it out on our cars. Better we understand them the longer we can keep them working. On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread Peter Frederick
Diesel engines were designed to be as close to constant pressure/heat engines as possible (Carnot cycle engines) rather than expansion with heat/pressure engines (Otto cycle). Think steam engines, where steam pressure straight from the boiler is applied to the piston face until it reaches

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread WILTON
In an effort to sleep better tonight myself, I had just looked it up a few minutes before reading this msg; now I can really snooze comfortably - 'least that's one thing that won't worry me, anyway. ; Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Efficiency. Was:Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread Peter Frederick
The injection pressure is always the same, and the droplet distribution is nearly identical, it's only the DURATION of the injection that changes (although the timing if the injection changes with rpm). Diesels do NOT have vacuum unless they have a vacuum governor (before 1974 or so MB

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread Jim Cathey
Manifold vacuum? seems to be a missing element on diesels in general, True. The 636 (?) has a throttle butterfly plate, and does have a manifold vacuum as a result, at least at partial throttle! The Frankenheap has no connection from the throttle linkage to the IP, except for the vacuum

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread Jim Cathey
engines (Otto cycle). Think steam engines, where steam pressure straight from the boiler is applied to the piston face until it reaches BDC, at which point the entire charge is dumped into the low pressure cylinder to expand with pressure loss. Very efficient. Probably most efficient to cut

Re: [MBZ] Delvac sale at Oreally?

2011-07-16 Thread Allan Streib
Yeah I always use M1 in the winter. In the warm season I will use M1 if I can get it for a good price, otherwise Delo 400. Allan Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Better for your car than what? M1? No. You've got to remember there are other places where it gets cold in the winter.

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Efficiency. Was:Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread Jim Cathey
Otto cycle engines have to run very rich at idle and low load because there is so little charge mixture in the cyilnders with the throttle closed -- probably less that atmospheric pressure at TDC, and it's hard to ignite it with a Manifold vacuum on a typical idling MB is around 1/2 bar,

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread Jim Cathey
The Frankenheap has no connection from the throttle linkage to the IP, except for the vacuum sensing hose. I broke this hose once by accident and didn't notice it. I started to drive to work. The car acted a bit odd, and it was only a mile down the road that I noticed that it was belching

[MBZ] OT: for those with older PPC macs

2011-07-16 Thread Allan Streib
I've been using the TenFourFox broweser for a couple of days now. It's a build of Firefox optimized for PPC processors. http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ It seems stable and performance is as good as or maybe a bit better than Safari. Since Apple are no longer updating Safari 4 this

Re: [MBZ] Stop me before I buy a Biobuddy

2011-07-16 Thread ernest breakfield
Andrew, will find much information and disinformation on the topic of BioD here and elsewhere. (for example, the horror stories you hear about BioD eating fuel lines; i've got over 70,000 miles on almost exclusively straight BioD on the same fuel lines that were in my '85 300D when i

Re: [MBZ] Delvac sale at Oreally?

2011-07-16 Thread rogerhga
Better for your car than what? M1? No. You've got to remember there are other places where it gets cold in the winter. Living in New England Mobil 1 is your best friend when it comes to cold weather starts, even 15w50 is... But a little of each in the freezer and see which one pours better,

Re: [MBZ] OT: for those with older PPC macs

2011-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff
Good to know. I have a dual 2.3G PPC Xserve coming on Tuesday, so I'll need something that plays nice on it. I assume that Safari is in OS X Leopard Server MacDan Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I've been using the TenFourFox

Re: [MBZ] OT: for those with older PPC macs

2011-07-16 Thread Allan Streib
Leopard should have Safari 5, which is the current major version. I have not wanted to update my PowerBook G4 to Leopard due to the cost and suspicion that performance will suffer as it's not really tuned to the PPC platform but more to Intel at that point. So I'm still running Tiger (10.4)

[MBZ] Crush cars

2011-07-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I crushed 2 116's today and got $900 for them Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Crush cars

2011-07-16 Thread Allan Streib
Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: I crushed 2 116's today and got $900 for them Do you have any non-rusty W123 fenders? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Crush cars

2011-07-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I crushed a bunch of them last weekend Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: I crushed 2 116's today and got $900 for them Do you have any non-rusty W123 fenders? Allan -- 1983 300D

Re: [MBZ] Efficiency. Was:Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
Anyone who reads this should earn at least one CEC* in diesel engine technology. *continuing education credit On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: The injection pressure is always the same, and the droplet distribution is nearly identical, it's only the

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
What year and model, Jim? On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: The Frankenheap has no connection from the throttle linkage to the IP, except for the vacuum sensing hose. I broke this hose once by accident and didn't notice it. I started to drive to

Re: [MBZ] Stop me before I buy a Biobuddy

2011-07-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
I have pretty much ruled out becoming a home distiller after reading all these excellent posts. The better choice would appear to be installing a system in the car to burn filtered WVO. On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 1:21 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: Andrew,

Re: [MBZ] Crush cars

2011-07-16 Thread Max Dillon
You should be able to buy an S-class with that money. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I crushed 2 116's today and got $900 for them Sent from my iPhone _

Re: [MBZ] Stop me before I buy a Biobuddy

2011-07-16 Thread Max Dillon
So after months of effort and untold hundreds of dollars, you finally restore your car to original condition, and now you will butcher it to be able to burn waste oil? This modification and use (some would say abuse) will decrease the value of the car. I also get the feeling that your pay is

[MBZ] Bleeder screw snapped off

2011-07-16 Thread alanduff
Began working on my recently acquired '83 300D. The brakes are weak so I started with that project. The brake fluid was coffee colored so I decided to flush the system. Bled the passenger rear but the driver rear was tight. It rounded a bit so I switched to vise grips. The screw snapped right

Re: [MBZ] Bleeder screw snapped off

2011-07-16 Thread Rick Knoble
PB Blaster or AeroKroil (I prefer Kroil). Let it soak for a day or two. Drill out bleeder hole (not too deep, you don't want to go through to the caliper). Use a Craftsman square screw extractor (smallest size I think), and hope for the best. Time is your friend when using penetrating solvents.

Re: [MBZ] Crush cars

2011-07-16 Thread Rick Knoble
Dang it! :( Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I crushed a bunch of them last weekend Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes:

Re: [MBZ] Bleeder screw snapped off

2011-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff
The bleeder screws are soft, so go to your local Ace Hardware and get a reverse (left hand) drill bit slightly larger than the hole in the bleeder screw. More often than not, when you attempt to drill it out the screw will come loose and come out on the bit. It's worked for me.,,. Dan Sent

Re: [MBZ] Crush cars

2011-07-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh I got a bunch still on the car come buy some 123s Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Dang it! :( Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I crushed a bunch of them last

Re: [MBZ] Bleeder screw snapped off

2011-07-16 Thread Dieselhead
Rebuilt or used caliper. If the fluid is that bad you may have DOT3 fluid in there, and that means you need new hoses to the calipers too. (indicated by a slow bleed, or no bleeding without pedal pressure.) Swolen hoses act as a check valve to keep pressure on the brakes all the time,

[MBZ] Naps save money

2011-07-16 Thread Max Dillon
Took a look at the auxiliary fans on my E300 today. One didn't work, I thought perhaps it was controlled by a second relay. Turns out not, both on same circuit. EPC shows that the fans can be purchased separately. I took a nap. When I awoke, I decided to try giving the dead one a good wack

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread Fmiser
Peter Frederick wrote: I appreciate not needing a 12 speed transmission, myself. In class 8 trucks 9, 10, and 13 speed are common. A 12 speed is rare. (I won't say doesn't exist - but I am not aware of any.) And as much as I like them, it would be tiresome in a car. -- Philip

Re: [MBZ] Naps save money

2011-07-16 Thread Allan Streib
If you can get to the motor bearings at all, a few drops of ATF on each would probably help a lot. Allan Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net writes: Took a look at the auxiliary fans on my E300 today. One didn't work, I thought perhaps it was controlled by a second relay. Turns out not,

Re: [MBZ] OT: for those with older PPC macs

2011-07-16 Thread Fmiser
Allan Streib wrote: I've been using the TenFourFox broweser for a couple of days now. It's a build of Firefox optimized for PPC processors. http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ It seems stable and performance is as good as or maybe a bit better than Safari. Since Apple are no

Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread Michael Canfield
How is it that a turbo would use heat energy to stuff more air in? Seems it is transfering kinetic energy from the exhaust to the intake via the shaft between the two compressor sections to me. A turbocharger is not a heat engine. Mike On Jul 15, 2011 11:48 PM, andrew strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] Stop me before I buy a Biobuddy

2011-07-16 Thread Michael Canfield
Interesting analogy. How much can you buy a used OM617 injection pump for? I see running parts cars for $500-$1500. I paid $1100 for my 83 300d(you should see it.Mann filters, Conti belts, MBZ fluids always, clean as a whistle under the hood...). At the current $4.15 per gallon if I run

[MBZ] 1979 Mercedes Benz 300TD___40K Original Miles__One Owner_Garaged__MINT (Cove Neck(40K Original Mile Diesel Wagon) $14800

2011-07-16 Thread Michael Canfield
Wow. Drool, drool, drool. That is sweet! Mike Im Locted in Cove Neck but I can Show The Car in Syosset if Thats Easier Email me if you are serious about the car and we can arrange a time for a viewing THIS IS THE REAL DEAL --- 40K Original Miles --- One Owner --- Garaged --- ALL ORIGINAL 

Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread Peter Frederick
How is it that a turbo would use heat energy to stuff more air in? Seems it is transfering kinetic energy from the exhaust to the intake via the shaft between the two compressor sections to me. A turbocharger is not a heat engine. It is indeed a heat engine. You can rig up a combustion

Re: [MBZ] Ten Fo Fox

2011-07-16 Thread RELNGSON
...I've been using the TenFourFox broweser for a couple of days now.  It's a build of Firefox optimized for PPC processors... I discovered TenFourFox last year (now V5.0) and It doesn't seem to have any bad habits. I can't think of a single reason to switch to somthing else just for the

[MBZ] OT-Cordless Drill Battery

2011-07-16 Thread alanduff
Got my cordless drill out to begin working on the bleeder screw. Then I remembered the batteries will not charge. You can charge them all night and they will run at slow speed for a couple of minutes, then quit. Not sure if it is the charger or the batteries. It is a 12v Dewalt. If I plug the

Re: [MBZ] Stop me before I buy a Biobuddy

2011-07-16 Thread Walt Zarnoch
In my neck of the woods, the only way to buy a 617 is to wait for 3 years till one comes into a yard, buy a craigslist crackvertised car to strip then crush, or have one shipped in and pay big $$$. I guess that skews my perspective, but the viscosity difference is a real issue. The difference in

Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread G Mann
Rule of physics. Energy can not be created or destroyed, it can only change form. Exhaust gasses are loaded with heat energy. The turbine wheel of the turbo extracts that heat energy and converts it to mechanical energy. Exhaust temperature measured down stream of the turbine side is cooler

Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread Allan Streib
G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com writes: The mechanical energy [force] against the turbine wheel blades drive [through a direct shaft connection] the compressor wheel. The compressor wheel converts the mechanical energy of the turbine shaft into work energy which compresses air [causing a

Re: [MBZ] Bleeder screw snapped off

2011-07-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
I have an extra W123 caliper for a 300D turbo (used) you can have for $50 plus shipping. On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Rebuilt or used caliper. If the fluid is that bad you may have DOT3 fluid in there, and that means you need new hoses to the calipers

[MBZ] New motor mounts bad?

2011-07-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
When I did all the engine work to my 92 300SD I replaced the motor mounts. They never did seem exactly smooth but every time I drive the thing its worse and worse. Today I drove it after finding both sets of keys that have been lost for a couple of months (one was in the drawer where they

Re: [MBZ] Stop me before I buy a Biobuddy

2011-07-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
I have seen a 1983 300D converted to a dual system run without any problems on WVO and regular diesel. If I did a conversion it would be to my other car, the 1983 300TD with 325K miles. But don't hold your breath... On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: In

Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread G Mann
Point taken on the intercoolers. thus the NEED for intercoolers was the comment, Needing and having are of course not the same. The point being made was that there is a transfer of energy through the turbocharger from form to form as it does it's work at different components. Sorry I wasn't

Re: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad?

2011-07-16 Thread Max Dillon
Injectors? Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: When I did all the engine work to my 92 300SD I replaced the motor mounts. They never did seem exactly smooth but every time I drive the thing its worse and

Re: [MBZ] OT-Cordless Drill Battery

2011-07-16 Thread Max Dillon
Probably batteries. Batteries Plus can install new for a reasonable price. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. aland...@knology.net wrote: Got my cordless drill out to begin working on the bleeder screw. Then I remembered the batteries will not charge.

Re: [MBZ] New motor mounts bad?

2011-07-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Injectors don't cause vibrations like this maybe a miss or rough idle Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Injectors? Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Kaleb C. Striplin

Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread Jim Cathey
A turbocharger is not a heat engine. _Everything_ automotive is a heat engine. :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Vacuum Pressure Converter for AT - what's it good for?

2011-07-16 Thread Jim Cathey
What year and model, Jim? 1972 115 200D. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: