Re: [MBZ] New tool and no parts to use them on
Is Trent in the lawnmower parts biz as well? Hendrik who had to fix his computer and had a weird electrical problem On 18/06/13 03:38, WILTON wrote: 'Zackly. Just called about it. Needed an additional mulching shield on underside. Last Tue afternoon, parts guy said he could have it here in 2 days. Word from service guy now is, They've had problem getting the mulching shield - s'posed to be here in the morning. I suspect not ordered in timely manner. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tool
Gerry wrote: Stanley Rotator (rachet) 3/8 drive. #89-962.Purchased from Walmart $22.47 Rachet continues in same direction when handle is moved back and forth, even one click at a time. Mitch wrote: Another new tool: We've all seen cheater pipes, and we've all seen flex head ratchets, but what about a flex head ratchet with a telescoping handle? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Stanley-3-8-Extend-Ratchet/14146063 The new ratchet I recently got allows turning the handle (screwdriver action) to rotated the head as well as normal action. I opened it up and greased it the first time I used it... Kobalt Double drive ratchet http://www.lowes.com/pd_172851-20535-85048_0__ It's okay. I don't reach for it when a normal ratchet would do the job, but when there is little room to swing the handle helps. --Philip Probably the same wrench with a different plastic grip. They look the same otherwise. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
- Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I second Darrens suggestion. Is there anyone on the list who DID NOT use a credit card for payment? All credit cards that I've had experience with protect the buyer against this sort of thing. Paying by Paypal gives you two layers of protection since Paypal also protects the buyer. Gerry Uh, I beg to disagree. I bought a $1k VFD on fleabay, and the seller shipped an inverter, which is worth about half as much. Paypal, now owned by fleaby, says file a complaint on fleabay. Fleabay now wants me to PROVE a box that says inverter, with a manual that says inverter and a device that says inverter, is in fact an inverter. AND to make it better, I have to pay for some expert witness to testify in writing that it is an inverter, and not a VFD. I am not sure how you prove something is Not. Even the sellers model number, (what was delivered) is described by the mfgr as an inverter. But I need more proof ShEESH! Paypal, like fleaby is worthless. Haven't had any dealings like that on Ebay, but have had a couple on Paypal where the the dealer did not ship in one case, and the shipper sent the wrong part (ram chips) in the other. On receipt of the chips I emailed the shipper with no reply so I sent the chips back to the shipper registered mail with a note telling him to credit my account with Paypal. I sent a copy of the note to Paypal. Both cases were settled quickly and I was out no money. I always buy from the approved sellers on Ebay and have spent probably several thousand dollars on various items. Had a somewhat similar situation as yours on Amazon. Ordered several bottles of vitamins from one of Amazons private sellers. I was charged more for the frt and handling ($28.xx?) than the cost of the vitamins ($17.xx). Amazon referred me to somebody in Panama who couldn't speak understandable English and appealing to Amazons computer labyrinth was fruitless. In general I've found Ebays prices much lower than Amazons. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Duncan, Oklahoma?
- Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Duncan, Oklahoma? On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 23:16:08 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: It's a nice little company town (Halliburton), in south central OK, the next significant town East of Lawton where I grew up. I'd check it out -- the OK heat should not be an issue for you :-) Actually, we live in Los Alamos at 7400', not in Albuquerque at 5280', so it doesn't get all that hot. Now Phoenix, where we were briefly last week, that's hot! Craig On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Anyone know anything about Duncan, OK? A recruiter from Halliburton saw my profile on LinkedIn and is trying to interest me in a position they have there. Craig How's your neck doing, Craig? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The Dream Is Over
Gentlemen, I remember shortly after picking up our 83 240D and finding that it had a bad engine that I turned to my trusted (dare I say friends?) here for advice. I remember saying that I wouldn't let my dream die – the dream of having one of these automobiles. So I bought a used engine and had it installed and enjoyed a years-long relationship with what I considered just about the perfect car for me. During that time, my wife and I acquired our 87 190D, a car we bought from ebay due to a tip from Kaleb. That one served us amazingly well. Almost no problems which amazed me considering we bought it at 278k miles. The odometer broke while we owned it so I don't know its final mileage under our care. Not to go on too long, I realized after years that I just am not cut out to own cars that require much maintenance. I procrastinate, I stress about it, I don't know how to do much more than basic upkeep, and I am afraid to try. My choice might have been to keep at least one of them (obviously the 240, which had only 135k mi.) and just pay for someone to maintain/repair/restore it. But spousal compromise, along with the aforementioned, along with the addition of our first and only child (who had a rough start to life) determined that we should let both Benzes go. I am no longer part of your ranks, guys. I remember many late nights reading all I had time for of the content on this list, trying to soak up knowledge. I recall getting much great information – not just car-related – from many of you amazingly smart, accomplished men. I let you guys know I was considering selling the 240, and the only mild interest I got was from Bob R. who asked for pics. Thanks for everything, gentlemen. I'm tempted to remain on the list in case I need any OT advice on anything. It was a good run. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Dream Is Over
I think a lot of people get to the point where you're at now. They reach a point where they either lose the time or lose the interest in keeping these things on the road. I've been struggling with that now for about a year. I still feel quite invested because I have the parts and the tools and the books and the knowledge but the desired the time seems to be waning . I'm kinda at that point now with the current 240 D I have. The desire of changing out shocks or or replacing all of the rubber bits on the rear end on a day off doesn't appeal to me near as much as it used to. I have to make the same kind of decisions you have made. Nonetheless, it was kind of a fun run correct? Bob R On Jun 18, 2013 4:54 AM, Zoltan Finks msuchpo...@gmail.com wrote: Gentlemen, I remember shortly after picking up our 83 240D and finding that it had a bad engine that I turned to my trusted (dare I say friends?) here for advice. I remember saying that I wouldn't let my dream die – the dream of having one of these automobiles. So I bought a used engine and had it installed and enjoyed a years-long relationship with what I considered just about the perfect car for me. During that time, my wife and I acquired our 87 190D, a car we bought from ebay due to a tip from Kaleb. That one served us amazingly well. Almost no problems which amazed me considering we bought it at 278k miles. The odometer broke while we owned it so I don't know its final mileage under our care. Not to go on too long, I realized after years that I just am not cut out to own cars that require much maintenance. I procrastinate, I stress about it, I don't know how to do much more than basic upkeep, and I am afraid to try. My choice might have been to keep at least one of them (obviously the 240, which had only 135k mi.) and just pay for someone to maintain/repair/restore it. But spousal compromise, along with the aforementioned, along with the addition of our first and only child (who had a rough start to life) determined that we should let both Benzes go. I am no longer part of your ranks, guys. I remember many late nights reading all I had time for of the content on this list, trying to soak up knowledge. I recall getting much great information – not just car-related – from many of you amazingly smart, accomplished men. I let you guys know I was considering selling the 240, and the only mild interest I got was from Bob R. who asked for pics. Thanks for everything, gentlemen. I'm tempted to remain on the list in case I need any OT advice on anything. It was a good run. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Uh, I beg to disagree. I bought a $1k VFD on fleabay, and the seller shipped an inverter, which is worth about half as much. You wouldn't happen to need a real VFD would you? I have two I need to sell. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Dream Is Over
Absolutely. I went through this exact situation around 2003, when my stay-at-home dad thing was getting thin as the kids got older and I returned to school full time. I simply had no time to tinker nor the inclination. That's when the 250LWB went the way of OkieLand and I migrated to the wife's former Nissan Altima. Having returned to the fold, so to speak, I have a more abbreviated attitude towards things in the sense that I have no desire to tackle anything significant, such as a rear suspension rebuild, for example, but have no problem dealing with the smaller maintenance sorts of jobs. If something of real significance ever comes up I will have to balance the decision of paying someone else to do the work or moving on to another vehicle. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:28 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I think a lot of people get to the point where you're at now. They reach a point where they either lose the time or lose the interest in keeping these things on the road. I've been struggling with that now for about a year. I still feel quite invested because I have the parts and the tools and the books and the knowledge but the desired the time seems to be waning . I'm kinda at that point now with the current 240 D I have. The desire of changing out shocks or or replacing all of the rubber bits on the rear end on a day off doesn't appeal to me near as much as it used to. I have to make the same kind of decisions you have made. Nonetheless, it was kind of a fun run correct? Bob R On Jun 18, 2013 4:54 AM, Zoltan Finks msuchpo...@gmail.com wrote: Gentlemen, I remember shortly after picking up our 83 240D and finding that it had a bad engine that I turned to my trusted (dare I say friends?) here for advice. I remember saying that I wouldn't let my dream die – the dream of having one of these automobiles. So I bought a used engine and had it installed and enjoyed a years-long relationship with what I considered just about the perfect car for me. During that time, my wife and I acquired our 87 190D, a car we bought from ebay due to a tip from Kaleb. That one served us amazingly well. Almost no problems which amazed me considering we bought it at 278k miles. The odometer broke while we owned it so I don't know its final mileage under our care. Not to go on too long, I realized after years that I just am not cut out to own cars that require much maintenance. I procrastinate, I stress about it, I don't know how to do much more than basic upkeep, and I am afraid to try. My choice might have been to keep at least one of them (obviously the 240, which had only 135k mi.) and just pay for someone to maintain/repair/restore it. But spousal compromise, along with the aforementioned, along with the addition of our first and only child (who had a rough start to life) determined that we should let both Benzes go. I am no longer part of your ranks, guys. I remember many late nights reading all I had time for of the content on this list, trying to soak up knowledge. I recall getting much great information – not just car-related – from many of you amazingly smart, accomplished men. I let you guys know I was considering selling the 240, and the only mild interest I got was from Bob R. who asked for pics. Thanks for everything, gentlemen. I'm tempted to remain on the list in case I need any OT advice on anything. It was a good run. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is issuing refunds?
Allan Streib wrote: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: I left msgs on answering machine, others that were supposedly Faxed to 'im; I also Faxed msgs directly and via registered mail. Still no answer and no parts at a cost of $267.79 via USAA Credit Card Services. Which you will not have to pay. Seriously folks, just do a chargeback and let the credit card companies deal with this. It's not worth your time. Time for a change in subject line? Wilton reports a voluntary refund. If that's happening for everybody, no need for disputes. Chargebacks cost money (to the merchant) and may result in a closing of the merchant's account with the credit card processor. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Obviously, I was too anxious to have some good news and misunderstood the notations on my USAA credit card account last night that seemed to indicate that Trent had refunded the $267.79. A first confirmation call to USAA this morning confirmed that he had. A second call to them to rescind the dispute/investigation initiated a week ago confirmed that he HAS NOT INITIATED a refund, but still may do so. Meanwhile, USAA applied a temporary credit to my account, and the investigation remains in effect. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Trent has refunded the $267.79 charge for un-delivered parts to my USAA credit card account. Thank you, Trent, for doing the right thing. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief My card bank, USAA, began investigation several days ago. I'd call 'em off if Trent were to initiate a full refund. I'll give 'im couple more days to do that; if no response, investigation and appropriate consequences shall proceed as necessary. BTW, somebody said it's time to be nice. How much nicer can one expect? I've asked for some response many times for nearly a week and have received none. Wilton - Original Message - From: Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Best route is to call your card issuer and file a chargeback. They will ask you to file a simple report, credit you your monies and attempt to collect the amount from the merchant. This works best with credit cards, but each card issuer has policies for dealing with chargebacks / affidavits for unauthorized use etc. Good luck guys, sorry to hear this is happening. Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com On Jun 17, 2013, at 6:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: We're grieving, too, Rusty, and we apply no blame whatever to you. A large part of our grief is also for you and the trust that you must have had in Trent. Thank you again for helping us keep our old MB's running and for being our friend and dependable family member. I wish you all the best and a full and satisfactory recovery. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens rustycull...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief Dear lister's, I am horribly grieved at what is happening. Had I known this, I would have just closed the business. I am still trying to contact Trent but I too, can only leave message after message. I have even texted his cell to no avail. I have no idea what went wrong but it appears to have happened very quickly. If I do get lucky and get him, I will let everyone know. Please accept my sincere apologies, I feel like I have let a lot of good people down. Kaleb, if you indeed interested in taking over, I will be talking to my attorney, please send me a private email. Thanks and good luck to all. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com Sender: Mercedes mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:36:33 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief On Jun 17, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Is it time in this thread to post some of the banned info that circulated a couple months ago? Or did --R put that stuff up here also? In which case, similar situation only worse this time? i.e. real personal problems? Already been done. I dunno... there's gotta be a *nice* way to deal with stuff. There has to be communication for that. y'all are employed, me not so much. Maybe if Rusty repo's the company name, you can buy it on consignment. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is issuing refunds?
Obviously, I was too anxious to have some good news and misunderstood the notations on my USAA credit card account last night that seemed to indicate that Trent had refunded the $267.79. A first confirmation call to USAA this morning confirmed that he had. A second call to them to rescind the dispute/investigation initiated a week ago confirmed that he HAS NOT INITIATED a refund, but still may do so. Meanwhile, USAA applied a temporary credit to my account, and the investigation remains in effect. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is issuing refunds? Allan Streib wrote: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: I left msgs on answering machine, others that were supposedly Faxed to 'im; I also Faxed msgs directly and via registered mail. Still no answer and no parts at a cost of $267.79 via USAA Credit Card Services. Which you will not have to pay. Seriously folks, just do a chargeback and let the credit card companies deal with this. It's not worth your time. Time for a change in subject line? Wilton reports a voluntary refund. If that's happening for everybody, no need for disputes. Chargebacks cost money (to the merchant) and may result in a closing of the merchant's account with the credit card processor. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Duncan, Oklahoma?
'Hope it goes well. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] Duncan, Oklahoma? Anyone know anything about Duncan, OK? A recruiter from Halliburton saw my profile on LinkedIn and is trying to interest me in a position they have there. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tool and no parts to use them on
'Had that thought, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New tool and no parts to use them on Is Trent in the lawnmower parts biz as well? Hendrik who had to fix his computer and had a weird electrical problem On 18/06/13 03:38, WILTON wrote: 'Zackly. Just called about it. Needed an additional mulching shield on underside. Last Tue afternoon, parts guy said he could have it here in 2 days. Word from service guy now is, They've had problem getting the mulching shield - s'posed to be here in the morning. I suspect not ordered in timely manner. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
LA traffic is probably worse more hours of the day than any other city. DC has bad rush hour, but so does NYC. Outside of rush hour you can easily drive into NYC without any major traffic problems. Of course you might also get caught in a traffic jam at 2AM. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:14 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I've driven both as a tourist with only a map, and didn't find DC as bad as NYC. I think Dallas might be even worse. I've never driven in the LA area, but don't think it could be any better. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I am saying that the DC traffic patterns are actually very user friendly IF you know how to take advantage of them. In other words, traffic here isn't as bad as the rest of the world seems to believe. -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Uh, I beg to disagree. I bought a $1k VFD on fleabay, and the seller shipped an inverter, which is worth about half as much. You wouldn't happen to need a real VFD would you? I have two I need to sell. Rick Sent from my iPhone How many HP? It seems I am buying them all the time. We use 1 HP to 50 HP. Right now I have no spares, but have 2 on the way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Starving Youngsters: was 44 years OT
Stereotypical? For citing abuses of the system that seem to go unchecked? On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.comwrote: Naw man, in fact I said that I'm not discrediting the argument for the need for policy change on these issues. You are entitled to your opinion, and assuming you're of age and legal status, you're also are entitled to vote on these issues... hell, run for office, this is America! But be careful who you represent... It might seem like a noble thing to say it's the law but let's get real. It's a slippery slope. Watch the news lately? You are also clearly stereotyping. On one hand criminalizing people that are using the system, and on the other criminalizing people who are not using the system seems a bit hypocritical. As a business owner who supports and participates in legitimate work visa sponsorship programs, I can personally tell you that not all people from all countries have an equal shot at opportunity here. Keep in mind that at some point, we all came from somewhere else. I'll also tell you that the only real difference between an immigrant coming here legally/illegally will come down to how much money is in their pocket, and if they have access to quality legal counsel. Fair? Putting the spotlight on, and generalizing on these two groups are part of the reason this country has such strong ADD, and can never focus on big issues long enough to see real change. Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com On Jun 17, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: other sketchy things? Does that mean you're minimizing the issue of illegal immigrants so as to say I shouldn't be concerned the government looks the other way with these ILLEGALS WHO BROKE THE LAW? While they may work harder than lard ass Americans, that doesn't make it right. The lard ass Americans should work! Welfare is often a waste of tax money. Paying food stamps for people to sell them at the entrance to the grocery store.. For people to have more kids to have more drug money... and for people who keep making mistakes. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Actually, I suspect most of these illegal aliens (the accurate term) are better Americans than a lot of the folks born here. And by better Americans I mean folks who value liberty and opportunity over safety and security. I'm pretty conservative on most issues but when it comes to guest workers I'll take Catholic Hispanics over middle-east Muslims any day. Nothing against such individuals but there is a track record there, -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Darren Marshall Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 10:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Starving Youngsters: was 44 years OT So many other sketchy things happening with your tax dollars... and so many illegals are working 'undesirable' jobs, not living in any remote sense of luxury, just trying to support their families... and when caught either guided to legal status, or ousted. Welfare on the other hand is a system that seems easy to game, but god forbid you ever had to claim it--you'd be glad it was there. I try to steer away from making too many assumptions about things like this, and you're certainly entitled to your opinion but these issues I think are embellished, given the spotlight to enjoy public circular debate, while Sam spends endless tax payer dollars on things you'll never know about or vote on... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I NEVER deal with any ebayer with a less than 99 percent approval rating. I alwyas read every negative report to get a handle on whether to trust the seller. So far, only one problem in 00s of transactiosn On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Uh, I beg to disagree. I bought a $1k VFD on fleabay, and the seller shipped an inverter, which is worth about half as much. You wouldn't happen to need a real VFD would you? I have two I need to sell. Rick Sent from my iPhone How many HP? It seems I am buying them all the time. We use 1 HP to 50 HP. Right now I have no spares, but have 2 on the way. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I NEVER deal with any ebayer with a less than 99 percent approval rating. I alwyas read every negative report to get a handle on whether to trust the seller. So far, only one problem in 00s of transactiosn This clown had a 99%+ rating and runs a seemingly legit brick and mortar biz. But his attitude was nasty. I called him twice for help as well as posting messages on ebay. It was that attitude that really made me want a refund. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Dream Is Over
Brian, You are welcome to stay a member, or just pop in when you have a question that defies an answer. We all have those moments when we question out sanity, and wonder how many hours to spend on a repair. I am sure that you will have experience/thoughts to share in the future. The future may hold another MB for you. Who knows? I have found a balance now with one newish 'mercun gasser, and several ol Diesels. A few years ago I was ready to get rid of my 240Ds. THen i thought about the simplicity, reliability and durability and decided to keep it and slowly refurb the dead 240D. It now has a new engine courtesy of mao, new tires, and will make a good backup car for #1 daughter when I get a few more things done. For mostly metro driving, it is economical and she does not need high speed. It looks like the other will become my winter vehicle once again. For now the capone SDL will be my work car. It is basicly frankenheap, but no welding microwaves in it for me. The 300D is still the good car and SWMBO wants it back. Gentlemen, I remember shortly after picking up our 83 240D and finding that it had a bad engine that I turned to my trusted (dare I say friends?) here for advice. I remember saying that I wouldn't let my dream die - the dream of having one of these automobiles. So I bought a used engine and had it installed and enjoyed a years-long relationship with what I considered just about the perfect car for me. During that time, my wife and I acquired our 87 190D, a car we bought from ebay due to a tip from Kaleb. That one served us amazingly well. Almost no problems which amazed me considering we bought it at 278k miles. The odometer broke while we owned it so I don't know its final mileage under our care. Not to go on too long, I realized after years that I just am not cut out to own cars that require much maintenance. I procrastinate, I stress about it, I don't know how to do much more than basic upkeep, and I am afraid to try. My choice might have been to keep at least one of them (obviously the 240, which had only 135k mi.) and just pay for someone to maintain/repair/restore it. But spousal compromise, along with the aforementioned, along with the addition of our first and only child (who had a rough start to life) determined that we should let both Benzes go. I am no longer part of your ranks, guys. I remember many late nights reading all I had time for of the content on this list, trying to soak up knowledge. I recall getting much great information - not just car-related - from many of you amazingly smart, accomplished men. I let you guys know I was considering selling the 240, and the only mild interest I got was from Bob R. who asked for pics. Thanks for everything, gentlemen. I'm tempted to remain on the list in case I need any OT advice on anything. It was a good run. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
San Francisco is bad, especially on the peninsula. Takes you a good 2 hours to go maybe 30 miles, and that's not even at rush hour. Dan On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: LA traffic is probably worse more hours of the day than any other city. DC has bad rush hour, but so does NYC. Outside of rush hour you can easily drive into NYC without any major traffic problems. Of course you might also get caught in a traffic jam at 2AM. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:14 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I've driven both as a tourist with only a map, and didn't find DC as bad as NYC. I think Dallas might be even worse. I've never driven in the LA area, but don't think it could be any better. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I am saying that the DC traffic patterns are actually very user friendly IF you know how to take advantage of them. In other words, traffic here isn't as bad as the rest of the world seems to believe. -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Yeah, it's not foolproof. I once nearly got negative feedback when I shipped an item to Greece that took 30 days to get there. Not my fault, either. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I NEVER deal with any ebayer with a less than 99 percent approval rating. I alwyas read every negative report to get a handle on whether to trust the seller. So far, only one problem in 00s of transactiosn This clown had a 99%+ rating and runs a seemingly legit brick and mortar biz. But his attitude was nasty. I called him twice for help as well as posting messages on ebay. It was that attitude that really made me want a refund. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
101 and 280 seem to move pretty well. I've been through the Bay Area at least several times and only hit traffic once or twice. I've never managed to get through LA without sitting in traffic. The 10, 205, 405 ... all bad. As they say of the 405 - 38 miles, 2-1/2 hours. It really doesn't clear up until you get across the San Diego County line or out into the desert. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: San Francisco is bad, especially on the peninsula. Takes you a good 2 hours to go maybe 30 miles, and that's not even at rush hour. Dan On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: LA traffic is probably worse more hours of the day than any other city. DC has bad rush hour, but so does NYC. Outside of rush hour you can easily drive into NYC without any major traffic problems. Of course you might also get caught in a traffic jam at 2AM. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:14 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I've driven both as a tourist with only a map, and didn't find DC as bad as NYC. I think Dallas might be even worse. I've never driven in the LA area, but don't think it could be any better. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I am saying that the DC traffic patterns are actually very user friendly IF you know how to take advantage of them. In other words, traffic here isn't as bad as the rest of the world seems to believe. -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
I called WF and they are doing the same thing, will put a temporary credit in my acct for the disputed amount, then the whole dispute process takes 45-90 days (!!). I gave them all his info, she didn't really seem to care to have it or not, I guess they just bang on his account or something. It was fairly easy after going through their phone hell and being advised NSA was listening to our conversation for training purposes. [CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW TRENT IS A TERRORIST] --R (hoping Trent gets a visit from some guys in black Suburbans with blacked-out windows) On 6/18/13 8:46 AM, WILTON wrote: Obviously, I was too anxious to have some good news and misunderstood the notations on my USAA credit card account last night that seemed to indicate that Trent had refunded the $267.79. A first confirmation call to USAA this morning confirmed that he had. A second call to them to rescind the dispute/investigation initiated a week ago confirmed that he HAS NOT INITIATED a refund, but still may do so. Meanwhile, USAA applied a temporary credit to my account, and the investigation remains in effect. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
It took that long with Chase earlier this year on something unrelated. Eventually they sent me a letter that said the investigation was closed. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I called WF and they are doing the same thing, will put a temporary credit in my acct for the disputed amount, then the whole dispute process takes 45-90 days (!!). I gave them all his info, she didn't really seem to care to have it or not, I guess they just bang on his account or something. It was fairly easy after going through their phone hell and being advised NSA was listening to our conversation for training purposes. [CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW TRENT IS A TERRORIST] --R (hoping Trent gets a visit from some guys in black Suburbans with blacked-out windows) On 6/18/13 8:46 AM, WILTON wrote: Obviously, I was too anxious to have some good news and misunderstood the notations on my USAA credit card account last night that seemed to indicate that Trent had refunded the $267.79. A first confirmation call to USAA this morning confirmed that he had. A second call to them to rescind the dispute/investigation initiated a week ago confirmed that he HAS NOT INITIATED a refund, but still may do so. Meanwhile, USAA applied a temporary credit to my account, and the investigation remains in effect. Wilton __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Greece has an idiotic customs office. NOTHING gets to Greece on time. Greeks are not known to anything in a timely fashion! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it's not foolproof. I once nearly got negative feedback when I shipped an item to Greece that took 30 days to get there. Not my fault, either. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I NEVER deal with any ebayer with a less than 99 percent approval rating. I alwyas read every negative report to get a handle on whether to trust the seller. So far, only one problem in 00s of transactiosn This clown had a 99%+ rating and runs a seemingly legit brick and mortar biz. But his attitude was nasty. I called him twice for help as well as posting messages on ebay. It was that attitude that really made me want a refund. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Starving Youngsters: was 44 years OT
Darren wrote: I try to steer away from making too many assumptions about things like this, and you're certainly entitled to your opinion but these issues I think are embellished, given the spotlight to enjoy public circular debate, while Sam spends endless tax payer dollars on things you'll never know about or vote on... I agree - stay clear of making too many assumptions about things such as welfare, etc - I purpose to NOT use the system as I see it exist today, even as I feel as if I am at the edge of falling in to the system... heaven forbid... Circular debate - wonderful concept!! Perhaps circular debate is similar to the term I use? wringing hands? - i.e. no solutions capable of any rational (national) debate toward solution? Nice!! How about a cuppa java/espresso at Bow Truss some day - let me know time and date - I wanna observe roasting, if possible... Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Greece has an idiotic customs office. NOTHING gets to Greece on time. Greeks are not known to anything in a timely fashion! Don't they retire faster than any other public servants? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
That sorta summarizes my experience on a trip there in '01. The ferry goes on strike for reasons no one understood (the cops guarding the parking lot in particular), and the subway that stopped in the middle of a tunnel for about 20 minutes, and the conductor was sneaking nips from a flask, and was barely coherent enough to stand up. Everything else sorta runs on island time too. --R On 6/18/13 11:16 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Greece has an idiotic customs office. NOTHING gets to Greece on time. Greeks are not known to anything in a timely fashion! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Spent a week in Crete - utterly amazing island!. Crete is the only place on earth - AFAIK - where you can stand on a marine beach and observe sheep and goats grazing, vineyards, lemon groves, olive trees, and in the distance snow capped mountains. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: That sorta summarizes my experience on a trip there in '01. The ferry goes on strike for reasons no one understood (the cops guarding the parking lot in particular), and the subway that stopped in the middle of a tunnel for about 20 minutes, and the conductor was sneaking nips from a flask, and was barely coherent enough to stand up. Everything else sorta runs on island time too. --R On 6/18/13 11:16 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Greece has an idiotic customs office. NOTHING gets to Greece on time. Greeks are not known to anything in a timely fashion! Sent from my iPhone __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Starving Youngsters: was 44 years OT
Scott wrote: Nothing against such individuals but there is a track record there, We might fully agree, except that I am not as trusting as you seem to imply. I do not fully trust the 911 byline that Muslims have caused us to increase tenfold the size of the military and multi-national war industry. Who? - dunno. What? - dunno. I might lean toward Alex Jones, but not entirely - he is wacko, but challenges the byline that all govt is good govt, especially regarding defense and war. Less govt seems much more rational, and that includes less federal war department govt. Also less federal educational indoctrination mechanisms. Also less federal medical provision mechanisms. All of which might push me to do the work with my neighbors to do the work that these federal mechanisms tax us to accomplish and accomplish very little at great expense. Let me try defense (against Muslims, maybe...). Let me do education (...well... we did). Let me do medical (I certainly find my efforts to be more cost effective than the bloat we see - $200k for broken femur?). Let me try to make it on less rather than more. Let me ask what I can do for my country, rather than what my country can do for me (meant to be a flip of the JFK line). I'm doin' the work that many people depend on Sam to do already - I call that to be quite progressive and conservative and radical and necessary and rational and probably religious. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Starving Youngsters: was 44 years OT
Its not a black and white issue though, consider Jose Antonio Vargas for instance. His family smuggled him here when he was 12. You gonna deport him? He is for all practical purposes (other than birth) American. He's been paying taxes for nearly 20 years... What about kids that come here when they're really small. They get to be 18-19 years old, you gonna deport them? They've never lived anywhere else. Thats cruelty. Or how about parents who have children that were born here. Deport the parents but keep the children here? Thats cruelty for no good reason. The problem right now is that theres no path for those people to ever become legal other than go back. In a lot of cases there is no back to go to. Mitt Romney said go to the back of the line except theres no line to go to which I believe is Vargas' argument... I'd say start with the obvious stuff, why do we bother to issue visas if we don't check people out when they leave? We have no idea who has overstayed what visa. That strikes me as really dumb. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:58:04 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Starving Youngsters: was 44 years OT Message-ID: CACnCPhmACG35y+Eei=ywt1outybwko2hmfsfvlmkjw2mnh_...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Stereotypical? For citing abuses of the system that seem to go unchecked? On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.comwrote: Naw man, in fact I said that I'm not discrediting the argument for the need for policy change on these issues. You are entitled to your opinion, and assuming you're of age and legal status, you're also are entitled to vote on these issues... hell, run for office, this is America! But be careful who you represent... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
In LA you figure 10mph average at rush hour. They've built an area so completely against bicycles that while you could probably ride much faster than you can drive you're taking your life into your own hands so dramatically that nobody (barring a few risk takers) does it. Light rail is making some inroads, they've managed to put it from places people live to places people want to go which helps. Folks I've talked to like it. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 10:09:03 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mileage Message-ID: 819aa4ad-2462-4f6a-b55b-69b79535f...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii San Francisco is bad, especially on the peninsula. Takes you a good 2 hours to go maybe 30 miles, and that's not even at rush hour. Dan On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: LA traffic is probably worse more hours of the day than any other city. DC has bad rush hour, but so does NYC. Outside of rush hour you can easily drive into NYC without any major traffic problems. Of course you might also get caught in a traffic jam at 2AM. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
NYC is a beautiful place to drive at 6am, very little traffic. DC, probably due to the number of military folks, is not anywhere near as good. Its still better than at 8am but still pretty poor. Also aggravating is Sunday afternoon... -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:40:53 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mileage Message-ID: cacncphmk9jpa331vjbkfw900p3idtudvfepz-e2wesd9jen...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 LA traffic is probably worse more hours of the day than any other city. DC has bad rush hour, but so does NYC. Outside of rush hour you can easily drive into NYC without any major traffic problems. Of course you might also get caught in a traffic jam at 2AM. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Dieselhead wrote: Even the sellers model number, (what was delivered) is described by the mfgr as an inverter. But I need more proof ShEESH! UNREAL. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
clay wrote: Dan, it has become a matter of principle. we are all screwed No disagreement. But, we are also human. Human is prone to failure. A record of Trent's failure was put up a few weeks ago, fwiw. Human is prone to breakage - perhaps Trent is on his back with some severe illness and nobody in his support group is able to follow his wishes to shut the website down or do customer service. Indeed, Trent could be a ponzi, but is there not good religious and human principle that we are innocent until proven guilty? The guy doesn't present himself as an outright criminal - it is clear there is a problem and that we are all skrewed but we should be human, religious, etc and hope for our best and Trent's best - we are all human, we are all DIY, okiebenz is a very decent group!! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] rubber rings?
I think I have asked this question before but I do not recall the answer so please bear with me. My 115 300D has rubber rings that look similar to the exhaust hanger rings, holding the radiator in place. Does anyone know if these are the same as the exhaust hanger rings? Does anyone know if there are different size rings? They look a bit cracked and it seems it would be wise to change them givne they cannot cost much and could cause trouble if they were to let go. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Delivery valve union oring size
Does anyone know the proper oring size for the delivery valve unions on OM61x through OM60x? I want to get some viton ones. Before I took in a new one from Q and matched it. I have tried twice to order them, but one was never sent and the other place sent the wrong size. It is something like 2mm x 18mm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Greece
I loved Greece -- it was beautiful and the food was amazing, people were very nice (except the Gypsies). Just had to go with the flow. We visited a lot of the ancient sites which were very well organized (I guess to take tourist dinero). A lot of the people we met at various restaurants and hotels were American having lived here in the US for some time, running restaurants and such then retiring back to Greece to do the same after passing their businesses onto their kids in the US. That was pretty funny. One guy in Korinthos had his 2 grandsons running the hotel with him so they could learn the bidness then come back to the US to run one. He had a restaurant in Indianapolis for like 30 years, retired back home to Korinthos. He enjoyed having Americans stay at his place. --R On 6/18/13 11:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Spent a week in Crete - utterly amazing island!. Crete is the only place on earth - AFAIK - where you can stand on a marine beach and observe sheep and goats grazing, vineyards, lemon groves, olive trees, and in the distance snow capped mountains. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: That sorta summarizes my experience on a trip there in '01. The ferry goes on strike for reasons no one understood (the cops guarding the parking lot in particular), and the subway that stopped in the middle of a tunnel for about 20 minutes, and the conductor was sneaking nips from a flask, and was barely coherent enough to stand up. Everything else sorta runs on island time too. --R On 6/18/13 11:16 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Greece has an idiotic customs office. NOTHING gets to Greece on time. Greeks are not known to anything in a timely fashion! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Duncan, Oklahoma?
Craig wrote: Anyone know anything about Duncan, OK? A recruiter from Halliburton saw my profile on LinkedIn and is trying to interest me in a position they have there. If ya need any support staff, let me know. I should invite you my linkedin page... My 2nd job offer was Schlumberger well logging, years ago. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
When I was working in SFO I was amazed at how difficult it could be to conduct business in the area due to the traffic. After a while I understood why the Bay Area has so many sort of cloistered communities so close together. You can't run a service business there without having multiple locations, as the logistics make it near impossible to be efficient and competitive. Dan On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: In LA you figure 10mph average at rush hour. They've built an area so completely against bicycles that while you could probably ride much faster than you can drive you're taking your life into your own hands so dramatically that nobody (barring a few risk takers) does it. Light rail is making some inroads, they've managed to put it from places people live to places people want to go which helps. Folks I've talked to like it. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 10:09:03 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mileage Message-ID: 819aa4ad-2462-4f6a-b55b-69b79535f...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii San Francisco is bad, especially on the peninsula. Takes you a good 2 hours to go maybe 30 miles, and that's not even at rush hour. Dan On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: LA traffic is probably worse more hours of the day than any other city. DC has bad rush hour, but so does NYC. Outside of rush hour you can easily drive into NYC without any major traffic problems. Of course you might also get caught in a traffic jam at 2AM. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Greece
His last name wasn't Karozos, was it? I went to school in Indianapolis with a family named as such and they had a restaurant business. Dan On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I loved Greece -- it was beautiful and the food was amazing, people were very nice (except the Gypsies). Just had to go with the flow. We visited a lot of the ancient sites which were very well organized (I guess to take tourist dinero). A lot of the people we met at various restaurants and hotels were American having lived here in the US for some time, running restaurants and such then retiring back to Greece to do the same after passing their businesses onto their kids in the US. That was pretty funny. One guy in Korinthos had his 2 grandsons running the hotel with him so they could learn the bidness then come back to the US to run one. He had a restaurant in Indianapolis for like 30 years, retired back home to Korinthos. He enjoyed having Americans stay at his place. --R On 6/18/13 11:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Spent a week in Crete - utterly amazing island!. Crete is the only place on earth - AFAIK - where you can stand on a marine beach and observe sheep and goats grazing, vineyards, lemon groves, olive trees, and in the distance snow capped mountains. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: That sorta summarizes my experience on a trip there in '01. The ferry goes on strike for reasons no one understood (the cops guarding the parking lot in particular), and the subway that stopped in the middle of a tunnel for about 20 minutes, and the conductor was sneaking nips from a flask, and was barely coherent enough to stand up. Everything else sorta runs on island time too. --R On 6/18/13 11:16 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Greece has an idiotic customs office. NOTHING gets to Greece on time. Greeks are not known to anything in a timely fashion! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve union oring size
I thought that was about onion rings --R On 6/18/13 12:12 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Does anyone know the proper oring size for the delivery valve unions on OM61x through OM60x? I want to get some viton ones. Before I took in a new one from Q and matched it. I have tried twice to order them, but one was never sent and the other place sent the wrong size. It is something like 2mm x 18mm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Dream Is Over
Dieselhead wrote: It now has a new engine courtesy of mao... 350k is hardly new... but it was a good runner and needed 3-pedals which is definitely a huge plus in my book. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rubber rings?
This is where I would trust Tom Hanson the Classic Center. He provides part numbers and/or sell you the parts as well. thomas.han...@mbusa.com On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I think I have asked this question before but I do not recall the answer so please bear with me. My 115 300D has rubber rings that look similar to the exhaust hanger rings, holding the radiator in place. Does anyone know if these are the same as the exhaust hanger rings? Does anyone know if there are different size rings? They look a bit cracked and it seems it would be wise to change them givne they cannot cost much and could cause trouble if they were to let go. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
In LA you figure 10mph average at rush hour. They've built an area so completely against bicycles that while you could probably ride much faster than you can drive you're taking your life into your own hands so dramatically that nobody (barring a few risk takers) does it. Light rail is making some inroads, they've managed to put it from places people live to places people want to go which helps. Folks I've talked to like it. -Curt LA has a perfectly good subway system under the pre-1955 parts. It was shuttered in the 1950s due to the power of GM so GM could sell busses to replace it. Is there another major city that does not have a metro/subway? Calif dumb... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
On 18/06/2013 11:16 AM, Dieselhead wrote: In LA you figure 10mph average at rush hour. They've built an area so completely against bicycles that while you could probably ride much faster than you can drive you're taking your life into your own hands so dramatically that nobody (barring a few risk takers) does it. Light rail is making some inroads, they've managed to put it from places people live to places people want to go which helps. Folks I've talked to like it. -Curt LA has a perfectly good subway system under the pre-1955 parts. It was shuttered in the 1950s due to the power of GM so GM could sell busses to replace it. Is there another major city that does not have a metro/subway? Calif dumb... How about stability issues? One might think that subways are more dangerous in areas prone to earthquakes. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rubber rings?
Ok, but I am wondering if I can just wander on over to the local parts store and get them right now, if they are not something unique or special. Randy On 18/06/2013 11:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: This is where I would trust Tom Hanson the Classic Center. He provides part numbers and/or sell you the parts as well. thomas.han...@mbusa.com On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I think I have asked this question before but I do not recall the answer so please bear with me. My 115 300D has rubber rings that look similar to the exhaust hanger rings, holding the radiator in place. Does anyone know if these are the same as the exhaust hanger rings? Does anyone know if there are different size rings? They look a bit cracked and it seems it would be wise to change them givne they cannot cost much and could cause trouble if they were to let go. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Crete is truly amazing. The island has everything, literally. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Spent a week in Crete - utterly amazing island!. Crete is the only place on earth - AFAIK - where you can stand on a marine beach and observe sheep and goats grazing, vineyards, lemon groves, olive trees, and in the distance snow capped mountains. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: That sorta summarizes my experience on a trip there in '01. The ferry goes on strike for reasons no one understood (the cops guarding the parking lot in particular), and the subway that stopped in the middle of a tunnel for about 20 minutes, and the conductor was sneaking nips from a flask, and was barely coherent enough to stand up. Everything else sorta runs on island time too. --R On 6/18/13 11:16 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Greece has an idiotic customs office. NOTHING gets to Greece on time. Greeks are not known to anything in a timely fashion! Sent from my iPhone __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief, or, can we change the subject to something new?
I knew a career military officer that was a neighbor off himself on Crete. At least that was the official story. Never did figure out how someone could commit suicide by cutting their throat and flinging themselves off a precipice. (He was a spook, so the sketchy story just adds to the speculation.) Dan surrounded by career officers Sent from my iPad On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:55 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Crete is truly amazing. The island has everything, literally. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Spent a week in Crete - utterly amazing island!. Crete is the only place on earth - AFAIK - where you can stand on a marine beach and observe sheep and goats grazing, vineyards, lemon groves, olive trees, and in the distance snow capped mountains. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: That sorta summarizes my experience on a trip there in '01. The ferry goes on strike for reasons no one understood (the cops guarding the parking lot in particular), and the subway that stopped in the middle of a tunnel for about 20 minutes, and the conductor was sneaking nips from a flask, and was barely coherent enough to stand up. Everything else sorta runs on island time too. --R On 6/18/13 11:16 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Greece has an idiotic customs office. NOTHING gets to Greece on time. Greeks are not known to anything in a timely fashion! Sent from my iPhone __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Finally some good luck
Well moderate anyway. Lying under my '84 190D on Sunday after successfully bleeding the brakes I realized the lower radiator hose wasn't causing my leak, it was actually coming from the radiator where the tank crimps to the main part. Having the car pointed slightly downhill helped to figure this one out. So today my new Nissens radiator arrived and I went to install. Of course just as soon as I drained the coolant it started to rain. I tossed up my EZ Up tent which is a godsend and still relatively easy to put up even by myself. Then the clouds opened and it POURED. Just like living in the rain forest except it continued for most of an hour. Anyway the radiator replacement is pretty straightforward but I've been concerned as the radiator I'm replacing wasn't that old. Then I tried to put the transmission cooler lines on, hmmm... In retrospect how it was installed before it was putting pressure and vibration onto the side of the radiator, right where it failed... The line in question doesn't look like either of the ones on Peachparts or Dr. Fatty's site. I wonder if this was a bodge job... I got it routed on the other side of the lower hose now so at least its not pushing on the radiator itself. I put a post on Peachparts to see if anybody had a similar year car and could take a picture. Anyway it'd be nice to not have to buy a radiator every 3 years. I had planned on replacing the old-cracked-to-pieces valve cover gasket while I was out there but as it continues to rain hard I guess it'll wait. Oh and for the first time I got Jim Cathey's fill the radiator through the upper hose method to work correctly. I'd tried it at some point in the past but couldn't remember why it didn't work out for me. Today when coolant backed up in the hose I remembered. Then I stayed patient and watched bubbles rise in the expansion tank and added more coolant until it came out the radiator. Then I exercised even more patience and waited for it to stop coming out green (I'm using G05) and then put the hose on. Haven't started it yet but I have high hopes. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve union oring size
I think your memory is correct. I know I saw somewhere that listed the size (maybe here?) but I can't recall right now and google is no help. This might be an annoying part in this post-Q world, its available from Mercedes Source and Diesel Giant but only as part of a kit and at what I'd consider and absurd price. DG wants $25 for the orings and copper washers. I think last year Q wanted like $15 for that and the springs... -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:12:00 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Delivery valve union oring size Message-ID: a062408f2cde6350c05df@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Does anyone know the proper oring size for the delivery valve unions on OM61x through OM60x? I want to get some viton ones. Before I took in a new one from Q and matched it. I have tried twice to order them, but one was never sent and the other place sent the wrong size. It is something like 2mm x 18mm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
Yes. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Greece has an idiotic customs office. NOTHING gets to Greece on time. Greeks are not known to anything in a timely fashion! Don't they retire faster than any other public servants? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rubber rings?
Guess I would just wander over to the parts store and see if they can match something up. Mike On Jun 18, 2013 12:34 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Ok, but I am wondering if I can just wander on over to the local parts store and get them right now, if they are not something unique or special. Randy On 18/06/2013 11:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: This is where I would trust Tom Hanson the Classic Center. He provides part numbers and/or sell you the parts as well. thomas.han...@mbusa.com On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I think I have asked this question before but I do not recall the answer so please bear with me. My 115 300D has rubber rings that look similar to the exhaust hanger rings, holding the radiator in place. Does anyone know if these are the same as the exhaust hanger rings? Does anyone know if there are different size rings? They look a bit cracked and it seems it would be wise to change them givne they cannot cost much and could cause trouble if they were to let go. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve union oring size
I just bought 7 of 1/16 x 5/8 viton orings. They look about right. I will try the job on Sat. If I start on Fri night, I can still get other US sizes Sat am. Local place did not have metric viton. Worst case, I can use Buna metric this time around, and then if they go bad later, change to viton. Right now, I don't have BioD readily available so viton is overkill. I think your memory is correct. I know I saw somewhere that listed the size (maybe here?) but I can't recall right now and google is no help. This might be an annoying part in this post-Q world, its available from Mercedes Source and Diesel Giant but only as part of a kit and at what I'd consider and absurd price. DG wants $25 for the orings and copper washers. I think last year Q wanted like $15 for that and the springs... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rubber rings?
I have replaced these and IIRC they are pretty ordinary. On Jun 18, 2013 12:34 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Ok, but I am wondering if I can just wander on over to the local parts store and get them right now, if they are not something unique or special. Randy On 18/06/2013 11:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: This is where I would trust Tom Hanson the Classic Center. He provides part numbers and/or sell you the parts as well. thomas.han...@mbusa.com On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I think I have asked this question before but I do not recall the answer so please bear with me. My 115 300D has rubber rings that look similar to the exhaust hanger rings, holding the radiator in place. Does anyone know if these are the same as the exhaust hanger rings? Does anyone know if there are different size rings? They look a bit cracked and it seems it would be wise to change them givne they cannot cost much and could cause trouble if they were to let go. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve union oring size
Well, Max, being a stickler for detail, introduced me to the proper terminology a while ago. So I thought I's show off my newfound knowledge. DV onion rings Hmmm I thought that was about onion rings --R On 6/18/13 12:12 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Does anyone know the proper oring size for the delivery valve unions on OM61x through OM60x? I want to get some viton ones. Before I took in a new one from Q and matched it. I have tried twice to order them, but one was never sent and the other place sent the wrong size. It is something like 2mm x 18mm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rubber rings?
Guess I would just wander over to the parts store and see if they can match something up. Mike I don't think so. I think that Classic Center is a better source. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
I thought about that too but then remembered that Tokyo has a subway system and way more earthquakes... http://thesource.metro.net/2012/08/10/designing-a-subway-to-withstand-an-earthquake/ Seems to suggest that subways fare very well in case of earthquakes. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:33:03 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mileage Message-ID: 51c08bbf.6030...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 18/06/2013 11:16 AM, Dieselhead wrote: In LA you figure 10mph average at rush hour. They've built an area so completely against bicycles that while you could probably ride much faster than you can drive you're taking your life into your own hands so dramatically that nobody (barring a few risk takers) does it. Light rail is making some inroads, they've managed to put it from places people live to places people want to go which helps. Folks I've talked to like it. -Curt LA has a perfectly good subway system under the pre-1955 parts. It was shuttered in the 1950s due to the power of GM so GM could sell busses to replace it. Is there another major city that does not have a metro/subway? Calif dumb... How about stability issues? One might think that subways are more dangerous in areas prone to earthquakes. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rubber rings?
Take one with you and see. Dr. Fatty has a kit: http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=1976-MERCEDES-300dyearid=1976%40%401976makeid=63%40%40MERCEDESmodelid=6183%3AMBC%7C1502%3AED%7C1131%40%40300Dcatid=240909@@Cooling%20Systemsubcatid=240913@@Radiator%20Mount%20Kitmode=PA -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:34:37 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] rubber rings? Message-ID: 51c08c1d.1040...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ok, but I am wondering if I can just wander on over to the local parts store and get them right now, if they are not something unique or special. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Finally some good luck
On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So today my new Nissens radiator arrived and I went to install. Where from? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:30:35 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Uh, I beg to disagree. I bought a $1k VFD on fleabay, and the seller shipped an inverter, which is worth about half as much. You wouldn't happen to need a real VFD would you? I have two I need to sell. How many HP? It seems I am buying them all the time. We use 1 HP to 50 HP. Right now I have no spares, but have 2 on the way. What is a VFD? Variable Frequency Drive? Where do you use them? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage, now Tokyo
I road the loop subway in Tokyo. Being 6'4 made for an interesting experience. The cars appear to be about 85-90% the size of America train cars, I guess to match the general stature of the populace, so it was a bit constricting to enter/exit and stand or sit on the train. And all I could see was a sea of black hair. Many of the other riders would be looking sideways at me, sorta stealing glances at the giant gaijin, until I looked their way then they would look away. Being polite I guess. Too funny. I was on one train one night and 2 drunk guys, dressed poorly, acting badly, got on with beers, the other riders were mortified that I was seeing this behavior, and one guy apologized profusely to me for the drunks. Felt like being home in Boston, except for the apology. --R On 6/18/13 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I thought about that too but then remembered that Tokyo has a subway system and way more earthquakes... http://thesource.metro.net/2012/08/10/designing-a-subway-to-withstand-an-earthquake/ Seems to suggest that subways fare very well in case of earthquakes. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:33:03 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mileage Message-ID: 51c08bbf.6030...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 18/06/2013 11:16 AM, Dieselhead wrote: In LA you figure 10mph average at rush hour. They've built an area so completely against bicycles that while you could probably ride much faster than you can drive you're taking your life into your own hands so dramatically that nobody (barring a few risk takers) does it. Light rail is making some inroads, they've managed to put it from places people live to places people want to go which helps. Folks I've talked to like it. -Curt LA has a perfectly good subway system under the pre-1955 parts. It was shuttered in the 1950s due to the power of GM so GM could sell busses to replace it. Is there another major city that does not have a metro/subway? Calif dumb... How about stability issues? One might think that subways are more dangerous in areas prone to earthquakes. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rubber rings?
Of course they are a better source for the exact part. But that does not answer the question asked. Never know what you might find. I buy my secondary fuel filters @ Advance...they are made in Germany. Just a rubber donut, if they have one the same size on the shelf why bother with mail order? Mike On Jun 18, 2013 1:43 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Guess I would just wander over to the parts store and see if they can match something up. Mike I don't think so. I think that Classic Center is a better source. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:16:49 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Light rail is making some inroads, they've managed to put it from places people live to places people want to go which helps. Folks I've talked to like it. -Curt LA has a perfectly good subway system under the pre-1955 parts. It was shuttered in the 1950s due to the power of GM so GM could sell busses to replace it. I was told it was above ground. I forget the name, but my grandfather told of rescuing a woman from her car that had stalled on the tracks seconds before the train hit it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
Lol, again, ., On Jun 17, 2013 3:11 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: When you live in the center ring of the worlds largest circus, and you always stick to the script, it might be presumed correctly. Grant... From way up in the nosebleed seats... ;)) On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: There they go again, turning every statement I make into a political circus. Tongue in cheek, I assume? Otherwise, what's political about saying roads are clogged and traffic flows like molasses in a certain area? Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve union oring size
Your local Bosch shop can look up and ship you the parts too. IIRC, there's a write up for the 606 floating out there with both Bosch and MB part numbers for the copper rings and the rubber o-rings. They should be the same across all om60x engines. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:53, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think your memory is correct. I know I saw somewhere that listed the size (maybe here?) but I can't recall right now and google is no help. This might be an annoying part in this post-Q world, its available from Mercedes Source and Diesel Giant but only as part of a kit and at what I'd consider and absurd price. DG wants $25 for the orings and copper washers. I think last year Q wanted like $15 for that and the springs... -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:12:00 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Delivery valve union oring size Message-ID: a062408f2cde6350c05df@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Does anyone know the proper oring size for the delivery valve unions on OM61x through OM60x? I want to get some viton ones. Before I took in a new one from Q and matched it. I have tried twice to order them, but one was never sent and the other place sent the wrong size. It is something like 2mm x 18mm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Finally some good luck
WorldPac through my local Car Quest. I quit putting my local Car Quest on every post because I felt like a broken record. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 12:59:38 -0500 From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Finally some good luck Message-ID: bay403-eas3067f29c61b1573cdf0af8add...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So today my new Nissens radiator arrived and I went to install. Where from? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage, now Tokyo
Lol. On Jun 18, 2013 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I road the loop subway in Tokyo. Being 6'4 made for an interesting experience. The cars appear to be about 85-90% the size of America train cars, I guess to match the general stature of the populace, so it was a bit constricting to enter/exit and stand or sit on the train. And all I could see was a sea of black hair. Many of the other riders would be looking sideways at me, sorta stealing glances at the giant gaijin, until I looked their way then they would look away. Being polite I guess. Too funny. I was on one train one night and 2 drunk guys, dressed poorly, acting badly, got on with beers, the other riders were mortified that I was seeing this behavior, and one guy apologized profusely to me for the drunks. Felt like being home in Boston, except for the apology. --R On 6/18/13 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I thought about that too but then remembered that Tokyo has a subway system and way more earthquakes... http://thesource.metro.net/**2012/08/10/designing-a-subway-** to-withstand-an-earthquake/http://thesource.metro.net/2012/08/10/designing-a-subway-to-withstand-an-earthquake/ Seems to suggest that subways fare very well in case of earthquakes. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:33:03 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mileage Message-ID: 51c08bbf.6030...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 18/06/2013 11:16 AM, Dieselhead wrote: In LA you figure 10mph average at rush hour. They've built an area so completely against bicycles that while you could probably ride much faster than you can drive you're taking your life into your own hands so dramatically that nobody (barring a few risk takers) does it. Light rail is making some inroads, they've managed to put it from places people live to places people want to go which helps. Folks I've talked to like it. -Curt LA has a perfectly good subway system under the pre-1955 parts. It was shuttered in the 1950s due to the power of GM so GM could sell busses to replace it. Is there another major city that does not have a metro/subway? Calif dumb... How about stability issues? One might think that subways are more dangerous in areas prone to earthquakes. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rubber rings?
Stopped on my way back from lunch to get a tube of The Right Stuff and asked about the rubber rings. They have different sizes available so I need to take one off and take it along if I want to find out if there is something more generic available. Randy On 18/06/2013 12:15 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Guess I would just wander over to the parts store and see if they can match something up. Mike On Jun 18, 2013 12:34 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Ok, but I am wondering if I can just wander on over to the local parts store and get them right now, if they are not something unique or special. Randy On 18/06/2013 11:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: This is where I would trust Tom Hanson the Classic Center. He provides part numbers and/or sell you the parts as well. thomas.han...@mbusa.com On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I think I have asked this question before but I do not recall the answer so please bear with me. My 115 300D has rubber rings that look similar to the exhaust hanger rings, holding the radiator in place. Does anyone know if these are the same as the exhaust hanger rings? Does anyone know if there are different size rings? They look a bit cracked and it seems it would be wise to change them givne they cannot cost much and could cause trouble if they were to let go. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: What is a VFD? Variable Frequency Drive? Yes. Where do you use them? Any place 480v 3 phase AC motors need to be speed controlled. Conveyors, industrial mixers, centrifuges, to name a few applications. They are not as exact as a servo system with encoder feedback, or as precise at speed control as a DC motor and drive, but they are quite suitable for most applications where speed regulation is desired. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
On Jun 18, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: How many HP? It seems I am buying them all the time. We use 1 HP to 50 HP. Right now I have no spares, but have 2 on the way. I will get back to you on Wednesday or Thursday off list. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage, now Tokyo
I used to stay at the Hotel Pacific in the Ginza, right across the street from a big train station that served both local trains and express. They had the infamous pushers that crammed the rush hour crowds into the cars. I used to grab a tray of sushi from a local restaurant and sit and watch them smash people into the trains. You can't be worked up about being touched in this place - quarters are so close everyone is smashed up against each other all the time. I did love how prompt the transportation was. I would take a bus from Narita to my hotel, and the bus schedules are literally a minute apart. If it says the bus for the Ginza leaves at 2:45, you better be there, because it does! One thing that pissed me off when I stayed there - the beds were always too short. Dan On Jun 18, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I road the loop subway in Tokyo. Being 6'4 made for an interesting experience. The cars appear to be about 85-90% the size of America train cars, I guess to match the general stature of the populace, so it was a bit constricting to enter/exit and stand or sit on the train. And all I could see was a sea of black hair. Many of the other riders would be looking sideways at me, sorta stealing glances at the giant gaijin, until I looked their way then they would look away. Being polite I guess. Too funny. I was on one train one night and 2 drunk guys, dressed poorly, acting badly, got on with beers, the other riders were mortified that I was seeing this behavior, and one guy apologized profusely to me for the drunks. Felt like being home in Boston, except for the apology. --R On 6/18/13 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I thought about that too but then remembered that Tokyo has a subway system and way more earthquakes... http://thesource.metro.net/2012/08/10/designing-a-subway-to-withstand-an-earthquake/ Seems to suggest that subways fare very well in case of earthquakes. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:33:03 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mileage Message-ID: 51c08bbf.6030...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 18/06/2013 11:16 AM, Dieselhead wrote: In LA you figure 10mph average at rush hour. They've built an area so completely against bicycles that while you could probably ride much faster than you can drive you're taking your life into your own hands so dramatically that nobody (barring a few risk takers) does it. Light rail is making some inroads, they've managed to put it from places people live to places people want to go which helps. Folks I've talked to like it. -Curt LA has a perfectly good subway system under the pre-1955 parts. It was shuttered in the 1950s due to the power of GM so GM could sell busses to replace it. Is there another major city that does not have a metro/subway? Calif dumb... How about stability issues? One might think that subways are more dangerous in areas prone to earthquakes. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:30:35 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Uh, I beg to disagree. I bought a $1k VFD on fleabay, and the seller shipped an inverter, which is worth about half as much. You wouldn't happen to need a real VFD would you? I have two I need to sell. How many HP? It seems I am buying them all the time. We use 1 HP to 50 HP. Right now I have no spares, but have 2 on the way. What is a VFD? Variable Frequency Drive? Where do you use them? Craig yes, your guess is correct. Controlling the speed of AC motors. Also good for soft starting same. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:16:49 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Light rail is making some inroads, they've managed to put it from places people live to places people want to go which helps. Folks I've talked to like it. -Curt LA has a perfectly good subway system under the pre-1955 parts. It was shuttered in the 1950s due to the power of GM so GM could sell busses to replace it. I was told it was above ground. I forget the name, but my grandfather told of rescuing a woman from her car that had stalled on the tracks seconds before the train hit it. Craig most subways have parts above ground. ala chitown ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve union oring size
Your local Bosch shop can look up and ship you the parts too. IIRC, there's a write up for the 606 floating out there with both Bosch and MB part numbers for the copper rings and the rubber o-rings. They should be the same across all om60x engines. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 Yep, a guy named John W Reames did a fantastic writeup for the job on a 606. It has Bosch numbers.I have been known to repost that writeup for others edification. Unfortunately I don't have a local Bosch inj. shop, so I am trying to find the size for the orings to duplicate them locally. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rubber rings?
Of course they are a better source for the exact part. But that does not answer the question asked. Never know what you might find. I buy my secondary fuel filters @ Advance...they are made in Germany. Just a rubber donut, if they have one the same size on the shelf why bother with mail order? Mike FLAPS will have the exhause donuts. My recollection of the 115 ones is that they are smaller than the exhaust. I've never seen any like that at FLAPS. Doesn't hurt to try, but I expect it to be banging head on brick wall. :. ordering from classic center is simpler. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Finally some good luck
Still looking good, I had it out and down the road a few miles. Temp still plays the silly little game its always played. If a new gauge comes up I'll buy it, otherwise its something to live with. Glad to see I can actually fix something once in awhile. -Curt --- On Tue, 6/18/13, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Finally some good luck To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, June 18, 2013, 1:08 PM Well moderate anyway. Lying under my '84 190D on Sunday after successfully bleeding the brakes I realized the lower radiator hose wasn't causing my leak, it was actually coming from the radiator where the tank crimps to the main part. Having the car pointed slightly downhill helped to figure this one out. So today my new Nissens radiator arrived and I went to install. Of course just as soon as I drained the coolant it started to rain. I tossed up my EZ Up tent which is a godsend and still relatively easy to put up even by myself. Then the clouds opened and it POURED. Just like living in the rain forest except it continued for most of an hour. Anyway the radiator replacement is pretty straightforward but I've been concerned as the radiator I'm replacing wasn't that old. Then I tried to put the transmission cooler lines on, hmmm... In retrospect how it was installed before it was putting pressure and vibration onto the side of the radiator, right where it failed... The line in question doesn't look like either of the ones on Peachparts or Dr. Fatty's site. I wonder if this was a bodge job... I got it routed on the other side of the lower hose now so at least its not pushing on the radiator itself. I put a post on Peachparts to see if anybody had a similar year car and could take a picture. Anyway it'd be nice to not have to buy a radiator every 3 years. I had planned on replacing the old-cracked-to-pieces valve cover gasket while I was out there but as it continues to rain hard I guess it'll wait. Oh and for the first time I got Jim Cathey's fill the radiator through the upper hose method to work correctly. I'd tried it at some point in the past but couldn't remember why it didn't work out for me. Today when coolant backed up in the hose I remembered. Then I stayed patient and watched bubbles rise in the expansion tank and added more coolant until it came out the radiator. Then I exercised even more patience and waited for it to stop coming out green (I'm using G05) and then put the hose on. Haven't started it yet but I have high hopes. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Finally some good luck
Curt. I have a 1985 190E instrument cluster gathering dust. ? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Finally some good luck Still looking good, I had it out and down the road a few miles. Temp still plays the silly little game its always played. If a new gauge comes up I'll buy it, otherwise its something to live with. Glad to see I can actually fix something once in awhile. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rubber rings?
Jus' grab summa yer ol' lady's hair ties. Mike On Jun 18, 2013 4:13 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Of course they are a better source for the exact part. But that does not answer the question asked. Never know what you might find. I buy my secondary fuel filters @ Advance...they are made in Germany. Just a rubber donut, if they have one the same size on the shelf why bother with mail order? Mike FLAPS will have the exhause donuts. My recollection of the 115 ones is that they are smaller than the exhaust. I've never seen any like that at FLAPS. Doesn't hurt to try, but I expect it to be banging head on brick wall. :. ordering from classic center is simpler. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Finally some good luck
Do you suppose the temp gauge is the same? I'd have to liberate it from its pod though, that makes me nervous. Worth looking at I suppose. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:44:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Finally some good luck Message-ID: 1371588246.80146.yahoomail...@web164903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Curt. I have a 1985 190E instrument cluster gathering dust. ? ? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rubber rings?
The ones' that one of you folks kindly pointed out on Jabba's site are more oval than round. Don't know if the exhaust doughnuts come oval as the only ones I recall were round. Tried to just order a set from him but his site won't let me as I am in Canada. It won't let me put in my billing address and without that it will not calculate shipping. Often, if the billing address does not match the credit card, then it will not go through when one tries to pay. Sent him an email asking if he can tell me how to get around that issue. Have not heard back yet. Randy On 18/06/2013 3:55 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Jus' grab summa yer ol' lady's hair ties. Mike On Jun 18, 2013 4:13 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Of course they are a better source for the exact part. But that does not answer the question asked. Never know what you might find. I buy my secondary fuel filters @ Advance...they are made in Germany. Just a rubber donut, if they have one the same size on the shelf why bother with mail order? Mike FLAPS will have the exhause donuts. My recollection of the 115 ones is that they are smaller than the exhaust. I've never seen any like that at FLAPS. Doesn't hurt to try, but I expect it to be banging head on brick wall. :. ordering from classic center is simpler. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve union oring size
Ach. No Bosch shop sounds like no fun.. I know the ones around Baltimore will ship to you... But I will see if I can find some spare o-rings and see what they look like. It will probably be the weekend before I can get to it tho. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 18, 2013, at 16:11, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Your local Bosch shop can look up and ship you the parts too. IIRC, there's a write up for the 606 floating out there with both Bosch and MB part numbers for the copper rings and the rubber o-rings. They should be the same across all om60x engines. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 Yep, a guy named John W Reames did a fantastic writeup for the job on a 606. It has Bosch numbers.I have been known to repost that writeup for others edification. Unfortunately I don't have a local Bosch inj. shop, so I am trying to find the size for the orings to duplicate them locally. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage, now Tokyo
Back in '81, we stayed at the Suidobashi Grand Hotel, located just outside the Tokyo city center in a close-in suburb. Our room was roughly proportional to a doll's house. I think the bed dropped down from the wall, and yes, it was too short (I am only 5'9). Andrew On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I used to stay at the Hotel Pacific in the Ginza, right across the street from a big train station that served both local trains and express. They had the infamous pushers that crammed the rush hour crowds into the cars. I used to grab a tray of sushi from a local restaurant and sit and watch them smash people into the trains. You can't be worked up about being touched in this place - quarters are so close everyone is smashed up against each other all the time. I did love how prompt the transportation was. I would take a bus from Narita to my hotel, and the bus schedules are literally a minute apart. If it says the bus for the Ginza leaves at 2:45, you better be there, because it does! One thing that pissed me off when I stayed there - the beds were always too short. Dan On Jun 18, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I road the loop subway in Tokyo. Being 6'4 made for an interesting experience. The cars appear to be about 85-90% the size of America train cars, I guess to match the general stature of the populace, so it was a bit constricting to enter/exit and stand or sit on the train. And all I could see was a sea of black hair. Many of the other riders would be looking sideways at me, sorta stealing glances at the giant gaijin, until I looked their way then they would look away. Being polite I guess. Too funny. I was on one train one night and 2 drunk guys, dressed poorly, acting badly, got on with beers, the other riders were mortified that I was seeing this behavior, and one guy apologized profusely to me for the drunks. Felt like being home in Boston, except for the apology. --R On 6/18/13 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I thought about that too but then remembered that Tokyo has a subway system and way more earthquakes... http://thesource.metro.net/2012/08/10/designing-a-subway-to-withstand-an-earthquake/ Seems to suggest that subways fare very well in case of earthquakes. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:33:03 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mileage Message-ID: 51c08bbf.6030...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 18/06/2013 11:16 AM, Dieselhead wrote: In LA you figure 10mph average at rush hour. They've built an area so completely against bicycles that while you could probably ride much faster than you can drive you're taking your life into your own hands so dramatically that nobody (barring a few risk takers) does it. Light rail is making some inroads, they've managed to put it from places people live to places people want to go which helps. Folks I've talked to like it. -Curt LA has a perfectly good subway system under the pre-1955 parts. It was shuttered in the 1950s due to the power of GM so GM could sell busses to replace it. Is there another major city that does not have a metro/subway? Calif dumb... How about stability issues? One might think that subways are more dangerous in areas prone to earthquakes. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mower deck
'Finally rescued mower deck from JD stealer this afternoon after playing a $434 USAA credit card tune. Safely unloaded on the grass with aid of rope a hook on outside of trailer to serve as a pulley; slid it easily and slowly off back of trailer. I was worried about its possible rapid and dangerous acceleration as it tilted downward toward the ground off back of trailer. With rope and pulley, I was able to ease it down slowly while I was off to side out of danger zone. Then used walker as a tractor to pull the deck 20 feet or so to the real tractor. Now, to go back out and get it mounted. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rubber rings?
Call 'im? Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] rubber rings? The ones' that one of you folks kindly pointed out on Jabba's site are more oval than round. Don't know if the exhaust doughnuts come oval as the only ones I recall were round. Tried to just order a set from him but his site won't let me as I am in Canada. It won't let me put in my billing address and without that it will not calculate shipping. Often, if the billing address does not match the credit card, then it will not go through when one tries to pay. Sent him an email asking if he can tell me how to get around that issue. Have not heard back yet. Randy On 18/06/2013 3:55 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Jus' grab summa yer ol' lady's hair ties. Mike On Jun 18, 2013 4:13 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Of course they are a better source for the exact part. But that does not answer the question asked. Never know what you might find. I buy my secondary fuel filters @ Advance...they are made in Germany. Just a rubber donut, if they have one the same size on the shelf why bother with mail order? Mike FLAPS will have the exhause donuts. My recollection of the 115 ones is that they are smaller than the exhaust. I've never seen any like that at FLAPS. Doesn't hurt to try, but I expect it to be banging head on brick wall. :. ordering from classic center is simpler. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
By initiating a claim with your CC, you should see a refund as the CC company always sides with the consumer while investigating. IIRC they are required to issue refunds within 3 business days or they risk losing their credit card acceptance account... Good Luck -- LarryT On 6/17/2013 12:14 PM, WILTON wrote: My $267.79 paid via USAA credit card. How was yours paid? USAA Credit Card Services has initiated an investigation. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money he took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to file a complaint against him. I have no more patience for his excuses. The cops can listen to them. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Re: mileage, now Tokyo
I was at the Westin near Yebisu, which was an old brewery that had been turned into a high-end, mostly empty shopping mall. Great reuse of an old building but it did not seem very popular. There was a subway station there for the loop train. It was never really too busy when I rode it, usually I took a taxi around to biz mtgs. The bed was great, the bathroom was huge and had a big stone shower and a long soaker/whirlpool tub. I guess they were expecting me. The time I had to go be a tourist was actually a holiday, the first day of spring, everyone goes out and walks around looking at all the new growth. That was kinda fun, I did not know that when we scheduled the trip so work ended up being about 3 days of the week I was there. I went to Akihibara, the electronics district, and looked around. I soon figured out that the list price (higher than US) was a starting point, if you showed the least interest the sales guy would come over with a calculator and start punching in another offer, then I would punch in a counter-offer. I really had nothing to buy, and the dickered prices ended up being about what I could get at home, so no bargains. They had a lot of stuff crammed into very small stores though, not your usual Best Buy kind of deal. They had demo dollies out front dressed in short shorts and halter tops trolling for customers, I liked that... I liked that they had beer vending machines located all over on the streets, serving up sizes up to a liter. Very Civilized. Liquor was actually a bit cheaper there than here, go figure. It was kinda interesting, I was there with my boss (actually my boss's boss), a black woman, and her boss, a white woman, and the Japanese had no idea as to how to deal with the fact that the guy was an underling to a black woman and a white woman. I think it sent most of them into overload. In order to get things moving I ended up being the main contact for discussions, which was good as I knew more about the matters than they did, and they were generally useless except to pick up the tabs (which I took great advantage of) anyway. Once we got all that sorted and dispensed with the corporate bullsh*t, over Jack Daniels one of the first evenings, they were actually kinda fun to hang out with. It was mostly a boondoggle anyway, so it didn't really matter much, but we waved the corporate flag. I'd love to go back sometime just to be tourist. --R On 6/18/13 3:40 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I used to stay at the Hotel Pacific in the Ginza, right across the street from a big train station that served both local trains and express. They had the infamous pushers that crammed the rush hour crowds into the cars. I used to grab a tray of sushi from a local restaurant and sit and watch them smash people into the trains. You can't be worked up about being touched in this place - quarters are so close everyone is smashed up against each other all the time. I did love how prompt the transportation was. I would take a bus from Narita to my hotel, and the bus schedules are literally a minute apart. If it says the bus for the Ginza leaves at 2:45, you better be there, because it does! One thing that pissed me off when I stayed there - the beds were always too short. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mower deck
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:25:14 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Finally rescued mower deck from JD stealer this afternoon after playing a $434 USAA credit card tune. Safely unloaded on the grass with aid of rope a hook on outside of trailer to serve as a pulley; slid it easily and slowly off back of trailer. I was worried about its possible rapid and dangerous acceleration as it tilted downward toward the ground off back of trailer. With rope and pulley, I was able to ease it down slowly while I was off to side out of danger zone. Then used walker as a tractor to pull the deck 20 feet or so to the real tractor. Now, to go back out and get it mounted. ATTABOY, Wilton! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mower deck
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:25:14 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Finally rescued mower deck from JD stealer this afternoon after playing a $434 USAA credit card tune. BTW, what's that all about? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mower deck
Craig wrote: On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:25:14 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Finally rescued mower deck from JD stealer this afternoon after playing a $434 USAA credit card tune. BTW, what's that all about? Probably the mulching baffles that Wilton was waiting for. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after Heavy Rain
Today we realized there is a gap in the sunroof gasket right over the problem area. In addition the closed sunroof sits slightly lower than the roof line. When the car is parked on an downward incline we think it's possible during a heavy rain the drain hole might not be able to keep up with the water flow. This might cause the track to overflow which leaks down the A pillar. When a steady stream of water is fed directly in the drain hole there is no leak. Any thoughts on his theory? I am trying to locate the gasket which surrounds the sunroof roof hole and the gasket on the sunroof itself. Any diagrams or part numbers? Hopefully this will fix the problem. Bob -Original Message- From: Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, Jun 9, 2013 9:54 pm Subject: 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after Heavy Rain Hi All, We had heavy rain a few days ago. I parked my 2004 E320 4matic in my driveway (Hill slops downward). Went to get something out of the glove box and noticed the front passenger carpet was soaked. I pulled back the rug and spent a couple of hours soaking up water from the carpet and well. I checked the sunroof drains and they flowed fine. I soaked the car with a heavy stream of water and couldn't see any water leaks. Any suggestions on the cause and how to dry up the car completely. Thanks in advance. Bob K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after Heavy Rain
Sounds like a good theory, hope it works out for you. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:34:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side afterHeavy Rain Message-ID: 8d03a93881ccbea-13dc-22...@webmail-m285.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Today we realized there is a gap in the sunroof gasket right over the problem area. In addition the closed sunroof sits slightly lower than the roof line. When the car is parked on an downward incline we think it's possible during a heavy rain the drain hole might not be able to keep up with the water flow. This might cause the track to overflow which leaks down the A pillar. When a steady stream of water is fed directly in the drain hole there is no leak. Any thoughts on his theory? I am trying to locate the gasket which surrounds the sunroof roof hole and the gasket on the sunroof itself. Any diagrams or part numbers? Hopefully this will fix the problem. Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trent
What about letting Gary back on the list? I think its time. Jaime On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: With all the recent happenings if Trent is still trying to sell parts I am tempted to prohibit him from promoting his business here. More to follow. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mower deck
Mulching blades (6), mulching baffle/panel; belts, filters, battery, labor, etc. = $434. Took a week to get the mulching baffle/panel that parts guy said would be 2 days. I doubt it was ordered in timely manner. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mower deck On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:25:14 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Finally rescued mower deck from JD stealer this afternoon after playing a $434 USAA credit card tune. BTW, what's that all about? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief
USAA applied temp. credit to my acct yesterday. Several posts (well, at least 2, anyway) to that effect today. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief By initiating a claim with your CC, you should see a refund as the CC company always sides with the consumer while investigating. IIRC they are required to issue refunds within 3 business days or they risk losing their credit card acceptance account... Good Luck -- LarryT On 6/17/2013 12:14 PM, WILTON wrote: My $267.79 paid via USAA credit card. How was yours paid? USAA Credit Card Services has initiated an investigation. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] At this time Trent is a thief I have decided Trent is a thief. He has had 2 weeks to refund the money he took for the goods he has not shipped. I am calling the local cops to file a complaint against him. I have no more patience for his excuses. The cops can listen to them. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rubber rings?
I think I used the muffler rings on the radiator in Gump. Well, new rubber, not the old ones from under the car clay On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: I think I have asked this question before but I do not recall the answer so please bear with me. My 115 300D has rubber rings that look similar to the exhaust hanger rings, holding the radiator in place. Does anyone know if these are the same as the exhaust hanger rings? Does anyone know if there are different size rings? They look a bit cracked and it seems it would be wise to change them givne they cannot cost much and could cause trouble if they were to let go. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match
Dunno, the way he was talking over at MBworld put me off, stuff like I am the best parts vendor, blah blah blah There is being confident in your abilities and aiming to be the best but as far as declarations of being best, that is done by others. Plus he was not shy in sinking the slipper into Trent, without knowing anything about what is going on. Not a lawyer but Trent could have grounds to sue for slander. Basically I think Jabba is trying to behave but I can still sense a bitter and angry man lurking somewhere in the great mass. Far as I am concerned he showed his level of commitment to us by basically taking a big dump on his potential customers here. Was there ever an apology offered? Guess he is that good he can afford to crap an a few customers. However end of the day it's up to Kaleb as it doesn't affect me, I have my little parts dealers over here and as always shipping kills the deal. Speaking of which, don't you people have bricks and mortar Euro parts stores over there? I have two here, which technically are trade only but I have a business number to show, which is all they care about. Hendrik who has included Gary Hursts post on MBworld below, FYI you may not be so fortunate. i'm thinking this is buymbparts.biz is a ponzi scheme. basically, a few orders are shipped to prove that it is a legit business so more money can be brought in. after 3 months, there is maybe 100,000 dollars in outstanding orders, but that money will not be in the bank as the flood of chargebacks is expected by the schemers. so maybe there is 5.000 in the bank for the bank to collect from and everyone else will be left with a loss. in other words, your bank may not pay you if they cannot recover the money from the account it was deposited into when you purchased from buymbparts.biz. there may not be any money left, so my advice is try to get what you can ASAP i founded buymbparts 15 years ago and have watched it get more and more viciously crooked till it has reached the point where it is at now. even though i've had nothing to do with this company for many years now, these are sad days for me. i feel sort of like a parent whose child has run away from home and now i see him on the nightly news evolved into a hardened criminal i know for a fact that there are honest, conscientious and competent parts vendors out there as i am one myself. i personally believe i'm the best one out there and many agree with me, but maybe you do not and ought to buy from someone else. but why would you ever buy from an outfit such as buymbparts.biz? is trent part of the mercedes community ? does he have any track record at all inmercedesparts http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029campid=CAMPAIGNIDcustomid=CUSTOMIDcatId=6000type=2ext=170960925573item=170960925573? can you find any public record at all about him other than he gets arrested for drunk driving? why does he look so much better than some email from nigeria? it boggles the mind how easily he/they has been able to pull this con off. hopefully your bank will pay you off even if the money is not there anymore. Read more:http://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w211/295836-beware-buymbparts-com-2.html#ixzz2WcJ9hn8h On 19/06/13 09:38, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: What about letting Gary back on the list? I think its time. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Source of new parts
Stay tuned, but okiebenz.com might start selling new parts pretty soon. It will be a way to pay for the list. Stay tuned. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match
I always liked Gary but I think he is still off his rocket a bit. He was talking about how he founded buymbparts 15 years ago. Bs. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Dunno, the way he was talking over at MBworld put me off, stuff like I am the best parts vendor, blah blah blah There is being confident in your abilities and aiming to be the best but as far as declarations of being best, that is done by others. Plus he was not shy in sinking the slipper into Trent, without knowing anything about what is going on. Not a lawyer but Trent could have grounds to sue for slander. Basically I think Jabba is trying to behave but I can still sense a bitter and angry man lurking somewhere in the great mass. Far as I am concerned he showed his level of commitment to us by basically taking a big dump on his potential customers here. Was there ever an apology offered? Guess he is that good he can afford to crap an a few customers. However end of the day it's up to Kaleb as it doesn't affect me, I have my little parts dealers over here and as always shipping kills the deal. Speaking of which, don't you people have bricks and mortar Euro parts stores over there? I have two here, which technically are trade only but I have a business number to show, which is all they care about. Hendrik who has included Gary Hursts post on MBworld below, FYI you may not be so fortunate. i'm thinking this is buymbparts.biz is a ponzi scheme. basically, a few orders are shipped to prove that it is a legit business so more money can be brought in. after 3 months, there is maybe 100,000 dollars in outstanding orders, but that money will not be in the bank as the flood of chargebacks is expected by the schemers. so maybe there is 5.000 in the bank for the bank to collect from and everyone else will be left with a loss. in other words, your bank may not pay you if they cannot recover the money from the account it was deposited into when you purchased from buymbparts.biz. there may not be any money left, so my advice is try to get what you can ASAP i founded buymbparts 15 years ago and have watched it get more and more viciously crooked till it has reached the point where it is at now. even though i've had nothing to do with this company for many years now, these are sad days for me. i feel sort of like a parent whose child has run away from home and now i see him on the nightly news evolved into a hardened criminal i know for a fact that there are honest, conscientious and competent parts vendors out there as i am one myself. i personally believe i'm the best one out there and many agree with me, but maybe you do not and ought to buy from someone else. but why would you ever buy from an outfit such as buymbparts.biz? is trent part of the mercedes community ? does he have any track record at all inmercedesparts http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029campid=CAMPAIGNIDcustomid=CUSTOMIDcatId=6000type=2ext=170960925573item=170960925573? can you find any public record at all about him other than he gets arrested for drunk driving? why does he look so much better than some email from nigeria? it boggles the mind how easily he/they has been able to pull this con off. hopefully your bank will pay you off even if the money is not there anymore. Read more:http://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w211/295836-beware-buymbparts-com-2.html#ixzz2WcJ9hn8h On 19/06/13 09:38, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: What about letting Gary back on the list? I think its time. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match
Can't be sued for slander if you are speaking the facts as they are. Seems Jabba the Hursty might be right on the money this time. Mike On Jun 18, 2013 8:33 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Dunno, the way he was talking over at MBworld put me off, stuff like I am the best parts vendor, blah blah blah There is being confident in your abilities and aiming to be the best but as far as declarations of being best, that is done by others. Plus he was not shy in sinking the slipper into Trent, without knowing anything about what is going on. Not a lawyer but Trent could have grounds to sue for slander. Basically I think Jabba is trying to behave but I can still sense a bitter and angry man lurking somewhere in the great mass. Far as I am concerned he showed his level of commitment to us by basically taking a big dump on his potential customers here. Was there ever an apology offered? Guess he is that good he can afford to crap an a few customers. However end of the day it's up to Kaleb as it doesn't affect me, I have my little parts dealers over here and as always shipping kills the deal. Speaking of which, don't you people have bricks and mortar Euro parts stores over there? I have two here, which technically are trade only but I have a business number to show, which is all they care about. Hendrik who has included Gary Hursts post on MBworld below, FYI you may not be so fortunate. i'm thinking this is buymbparts.biz is a ponzi scheme. basically, a few orders are shipped to prove that it is a legit business so more money can be brought in. after 3 months, there is maybe 100,000 dollars in outstanding orders, but that money will not be in the bank as the flood of chargebacks is expected by the schemers. so maybe there is 5.000 in the bank for the bank to collect from and everyone else will be left with a loss. in other words, your bank may not pay you if they cannot recover the money from the account it was deposited into when you purchased from buymbparts.biz. there may not be any money left, so my advice is try to get what you can ASAP i founded buymbparts 15 years ago and have watched it get more and more viciously crooked till it has reached the point where it is at now. even though i've had nothing to do with this company for many years now, these are sad days for me. i feel sort of like a parent whose child has run away from home and now i see him on the nightly news evolved into a hardened criminal i know for a fact that there are honest, conscientious and competent parts vendors out there as i am one myself. i personally believe i'm the best one out there and many agree with me, but maybe you do not and ought to buy from someone else. but why would you ever buy from an outfit such as buymbparts.biz? is trent part of the mercedes community ? does he have any track record at all inmercedesparts http://rover.ebay.com/rover/** 1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=**10029campid=CAMPAIGNID** customid=CUSTOMIDcatId=6000**type=2ext=170960925573item=**170960925573http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029campid=CAMPAIGNIDcustomid=CUSTOMIDcatId=6000type=2ext=170960925573item=170960925573? can you find any public record at all about him other than he gets arrested for drunk driving? why does he look so much better than some email from nigeria? it boggles the mind how easily he/they has been able to pull this con off. hopefully your bank will pay you off even if the money is not there anymore. Read more:http://mbworld.org/**forums/e-class-w211/295836-** beware-buymbparts-com-2.html#**ixzz2WcJ9hn8hhttp://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w211/295836-beware-buymbparts-com-2.html#ixzz2WcJ9hn8h On 19/06/13 09:38, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: What about letting Gary back on the list? I think its time. Jaime __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
