Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-18 Thread Fmiser
Curt wrote: With a 6.2 you certainly don't have the power you'd get with a 5.7 gasser... Actually, you would. A J-code (the one without the EGR) 6.2L specs and drives very much like a 5.7 (350 cid) gasoline engine. But fuel mileage is easily 50% better. --Philip

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey

2013-09-18 Thread Jim Cathey
have spent $2310 less in fuel now than I have.  However, I had to spend 4K$ for the ability to save that money. Everybody always forgets resale value. Gotta factor that in too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
I really liked derelict mercedes beaters as they are the only cars i know that can get the job done in such decrepit condition. I have a sudden craving to buy this and drive it home (only 400 miles): http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/4064812140.html Alex

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-18 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: I have a sudden craving to buy this and drive it home (only 400 miles): http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/4064812140.html Well, if you do, I have some nice Euro headlights for it... ;)

Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport

2013-09-18 Thread dseretakis
I can't imagine how low the Chinese aviation safety standards must be if the people don't even trust their own food supplies and kids crap in the streets of Peking. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 10:32 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Gateway to Tibet Daocheng

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread MG
Not really. I think that's an 50 to 80 amp fuse so the wires would have to be big enough to carry that and so would the switch. You should also add an inline fuse holder with a fuse on the wire going to the switch to replace the one you are bypassing. Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:05:36 -0700

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread mlh
OK, so Stauer isn't worth the money even at $99. Who does make a decent watch for under $100? Citizen? Seiko? Mechanical? Seiko 5 has been a good buy since the Vietnam war days. Orient Watch too, they're still made in Japan AFAIK, while the cheap Seikos aren't any more. I've got an unusual

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
really depends what you want. you are looking for mechanical or quartz or it does not matter? you need to be more specific. the $10 casio that bin laden wore is a good watch if that is all you are looking for On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-18 Thread Randy Bennell
On 17/09/2013 5:05 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: A diesel isn't out of the question, but I'd like to avoid having to a steep learning curve with something completely new. A gas 350, or example, is something that will be very easy to manage without much new to learn. Ideally I get something that

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread G Mann
Every time you start the car, you use a solenoid relay, which uses a small current to close the larger switch electrically to pass the large current required by the starter. I believe the suggestion of using a starter relay [stand alone, Ford style] to shunt current to the glow system is a very

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey

2013-09-18 Thread Curt Raymond
You're not really looking at the numbers here, you're saying 20 isn't that much more than 15 but it is 33 1/3% after all. In reality you've made my point again, you've got a 12 year old truck you've driven 66k, not even 6k a year, you're not a diesel truck person. A diesel person drives 25,000

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 17, 2013 5:10 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Stauer is Germasian, not sure about Steiger. http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/thread49586.html OK, so Stauer isn't worth the money even at $99. Who does make a decent watch for under $100? Citizen? Seiko? Alex

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-18 Thread Curt Raymond
This surprises me, I was always under the impression the 6.2 was a bit under powered. I've never thought a 5.7 underpowered... It reinforces my desire for a 6.2 powered Blazer... -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:08:50 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 94, Issue 194

2013-09-18 Thread MG
I like to look at it the easy way, 30 miles for $3.65 is right at 12 cents/mile. 40 miles at $4 is 10 cents/mile. Gas would cost 2 cents more per mile so if each car were to go 30 miles that would cost you 60 cents more for the gas. Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:37:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt

Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport

2013-09-18 Thread WILTON
Same IAS (indicated airspeed) but higher true airspeed (TAS) and higher ground speed; longer landing roll; longer take off run. I don't really have much experience at high altitude airports. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport

2013-09-18 Thread WILTON
I think I occasionally few a '64 182 at 13.5 or so. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport My Cessna

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Yes, the wiring to the high amperage part of the (new simple manually controlled) relay would have to be robust, but that could be a very short run (nearby, under the hood). The actual switch on the dash could be wired to the low amperage part of the relay with lighter gauge wire. An additional

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Dan Penoff
Both the case and band are gold, but I'm not sure if the case is solid gold. I just realized I think I gave it to my brother a while back, but I'll look when I get home and see. It was very plain, had a sort of off-white or gold face with gold numerals, if I recall correctly. I don't wear

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I collect Longines and Wittnauer self winding watches from the 50s and 60s. If anyone is handy, my WIttnauer calendar SW watch needs a new mainspring. Repair or buy - let me know if anyeone is interested. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: really

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Dan Penoff
I have my Dad's Longines watch from the 50s. Gold, expanding strap, nothing fancy. Does it have any value? Just curious Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I collect Longines and Wittnauer self winding watches from the 50s

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
it's a good idea but make sure it's nice first On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: I really liked derelict mercedes beaters as they are the only cars i know that can get the job done in such decrepit condition. I have a sudden craving to buy

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
is it solid gold? i haven't been in the market for a decade but generally not much back then although they were nice watches of the era and vastly underrated today On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I have my Dad's Longines watch from the 50s. Gold, expanding

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Is it a 6 or an 8? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:49 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: I have a sudden craving to buy this and drive it home (only 400 miles):

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
i think they were all 8s in 73, but that's jsut off the top of my head On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Is it a 6 or an 8? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:49 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Alex

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
i had a super lovely grand prize longines for a short while, but i dropped it on a tile floor :( my dad wore a hand wind wittnauer for many years On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I collect Longines and Wittnauer self winding watches from the 50s

Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport

2013-09-18 Thread OK Don
The POH for my 1957 182 gives numbers for 20,000ft. At gross weight (2650lbs.) full power climb at 20,000ft. yields 90 ft./min. at 74 MPH IAS. At only 2100 lbs. you can get 385 ft./min.! Ground run for take-off at sea level is 555 ft., and at 7,500 ft. it's 965 ft. (highest elevation with data). I

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread OK Don
Yes, you have it correct. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: Yes, the wiring to the high amperage part of the (new simple manually controlled) relay would have to be robust, but that could be a very short run (nearby, under the hood). The actual

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
it's usuallly not solid gold but plated or filled. very few solid gold watches end up on the twist-o-flex! On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Both the case and band are gold, but I'm not sure if the case is solid gold. I just realized I think I gave it to my

Re: [MBZ] Bohemian, well, whatever..

2013-09-18 Thread Scott Ritchey
Now that is funny. Reminds me of Tom Lehrer. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:17 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] Bohemian, well, whatever.. With the recent mention of

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey

2013-09-18 Thread Craig
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: OK Don will tell you the Passat gets better mileage than the Jetta (its also less prone to HPFP problems and doesn't go through a filter regen cycle although it does require DEF), is roomier and overall probably

[MBZ] W124 cruise controls

2013-09-18 Thread Craig
I use the cruise control on our '95 E320 frequently to keep to the speed limit -- after years of driving a diesel I find the quiet gas engine hard to maintain at a specific speed. I was driving yesterday with the cruise control, came to a stoplight, and then continued on. When I tried to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-18 Thread dseretakis
So Jaime is becoming a redneck:) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:34 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it's time for you to know this. jaime used to confide in me that he wanted to be you On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

Re: [MBZ] watches

2013-09-18 Thread mlh
What about these, good deals for the money? Is the Seiko Hi-Beat considered reliable or fragile? http://search.ebay.com/321203028856 http://search.ebay.com/261284536180 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread Curt Raymond
You've got the basics of how it works but I think you're over stating how big the wire has to be in the heavy section. Mine uses (I'm reasonably sure) 10ga which is a bit less (including insulation) than the diameter of a pencil. Not hard to work with. I know this works, its been working in my

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-18 Thread Fmiser
Curt wrote: With a 6.2 you certainly don't have the power you'd get with a 5.7 gasser... Fmiser wrote: Actually, you would.  A J-code (the one without the EGR) 6.2L specs and drives very much like a 5.7 (350 cid) gasoline engine. But fuel mileage is easily 50% better.

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 18, 2013 8:43 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: really depends what you want. you are looking for mechanical or quartz or it does not matter? It doesn't matter. I wear a digital Timex when I'm at home working in the yard or on cars. On job interviews I wear a '60s Seiko

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey

2013-09-18 Thread dseretakis
Where? In silver spring? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Diesel is cheaper here, believe it or not, at $3.89. Andrew in D.C. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: True, but

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread mlh
It doesn't matter. I wear a digital Timex when I'm at home working in the yard or on cars. On job interviews I wear a '60s Seiko Sportsmatic 5 mechanical. I'd like to have something to fit in between: classy-looking, simple, but that won't crap out in a few months (as the Casio quartz

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I am pretty sure both engines were available. It would have helped to see a photo of either the engine or the trunk lid (to show the badging.) G :( On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i think they were all 8s in 73, but that's jsut off the top of my

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Arlington, VA but SS is probably within a dime of that. are you driving down for our weekend tech session at HBL in Tysons Corner? I will FW you the announcement. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:13 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Where? In silver spring? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-18 Thread MG
As far as I'm concerned the 6.2 is under powered. I've had both the 6.2 and the 6.5. Both in vans and the 6.5 beats the 6.2 hands down and they both got right at 20mpg. Mind it's still not great at pulling but it is better. If you get a Blazer try to find one with the 6.5 turbo on it. If the

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread Craig
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You've got the basics of how it works but I think you're over stating how big the wire has to be in the heavy section. Mine uses (I'm reasonably sure) 10ga which is a bit less (including insulation) than the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-18 Thread Curt Raymond
Not acronyms, initialisms, unless you're going to try to pronounce HPFP which would be hard without vowels... ;) HPFP = High pressure fuel pump which is apparently prone to failure on the Jetta and Beetle from 2009 on although there is disagreement on how many. VW and NTSB say 1-2%, if you

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-18 Thread Curt Raymond
Whats the difference between C and J? Can you modify a C to a J? I don't want a 1ton pickup, I guess a 3/4 ton Sub I could live with ;) -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:14:39 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie Message-ID:

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread Curt Raymond
Don't forget the wire from the battery to the relay, its the same size so it carries the power of all the glowplugs. Fred gave me (a year ago) some seriously heavy (like 2ga) wire to make up a real wire from the battery to the glowplug relay but I never got around to it. Tomorrow the plates

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I think you're over stating how big the wire has to be in the heavy section. OK! Now I'm really confused! It sounded to me like you were saying 10 ga. was not optimal for this circuitry: I rebuilt with 10ga (I think) which is the biggest my crimper would support. I have some much thicker wire

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I really like quartz analog, but hate being stuck with a dead battery, especially while travelling. I also favor titanium, because...I just love metals and alloys that are very high-functioning in some respect. Titanium is light, strong, corrosion-resistant and friendly to the human organism. I

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
if you don't want to mess up your old seiko 5, get a new seiko 5 i wear an invicta but i can't recommend them as they are vile people who treat their customers as garbage. it's sort of like the fact i fly spirit air. i just accept that they don't care that much and will screw me over big time

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
this is what i wear. they generally run about 100bucks but figure another 10 or 15 or so to get it regulated so it actually keeps time. the movement itself is good for a few seconds a day (less than 5 on mine) but no one regulates them so they jsut list spec as -20 to +40 a day

Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport

2013-09-18 Thread Jon Agne
I do know that the maximum certified takeoff and land altitude for the Boeing 757/767 is 8400'. 4400 meters is a whopping 14,436'. I wonder what type of aircraft they'll be using? On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:28 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I can't imagine how low the Chinese aviation safety

Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport

2013-09-18 Thread Jon Agne
One of the most 'interesting' takeoffs I've ever had is from Reno, NV in a fully loaded 727. I think we used every foot of the runway and watched the hotels go by out the side windows after we lifted off. All three of us were praying separately that we wouldn't lose an engine. BTW, Reno is

Re: [MBZ] W124 cruise controls

2013-09-18 Thread WILTON
Possibly typical intermittent cruise control amplifier - cracked solder joints. CC in my '87 300D was doing that before I replaced it with CC amp from SDL a week or so ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent:

[MBZ] OT: watches

2013-09-18 Thread Curt Raymond
All this watch talk reminds me, in 2011 for our 10th anniversary Angie and I went on a cruise. We went to one of those everything you need to know about shopping talks where they told us about all the great deals on watches and jewelry. So we headed down to look at watches. I found an Omega I

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 18, 2013 8:37 AM, m...@voyager.net wrote: If you want something unusual, I'll let you have my 1970s bullhead Citizen flyback chrono for $100. Does it look like this one? http://tinyurl.com/lhxfha8 The honest Chinese stuff like Alpha is easily worth $50-75, I don't know what Alphas

Re: [MBZ] OT: watches

2013-09-18 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Yes, Bulova still makes some very nice watches that are also good value. I bought SWMBO a nice one with a sapphire crystal for about $80. IIRC. I think your watch was also offered in Titanium and I was looking hard at that one. A little too much $$$ for me at the time. Greg -Original

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 18, 2013 1:27 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 18, 2013 8:37 AM, m...@voyager.net wrote: Bagelsport, MQJ, or whatever names (other than Rolex) they're using now, are a bargain for $25 or less. Can't find either of those names on eBay. What about

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread WILTON
Solenoids convert electomagnetism to mechanical motion - to open or close a valve, for example. Solenoids are also used in relays to open or close electrical contacts which act as an ON/OFF switch in an electrical circuit. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread Richard Hattaway
The glowplugs can be 10ga, no worries there, remember as somebody else said its only 16a on a 4cyl. The one that really ought to be heavier is the wire from the battery to the solenoid which has to carry the whole 80a. 10ga seems to be adequate, in that its always worked for me but bigger is

Re: [MBZ] OT: watches

2013-09-18 Thread WILTON
Lying in my jewelry case/box for many years are an Elgin wristwatch a brother gave me 60 years ago, a Mickey Mouse I bought at Disneyland 40 years ago and a Seiko Bellomatic I bought at the Anderson AFB Exchange 41 years ago; a Heuer stopwatch I was issued 53 years ago is lying here in my desk

Re: [MBZ] OT: watches

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
bulova actually is doing interesting things as a company, more so than most. they have gotten into the hardmetal/ceramic stuff that was previously nearly the exclusive domain of rado and have a sweep second quartz series called precisionist that professes accuracy of 10 seconds a year On Wed,

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread Curt Raymond
The glowplugs can be 10ga, no worries there, remember as somebody else said its only 16a on a 4cyl. The one that really ought to be heavier is the wire from the battery to the solenoid which has to carry the whole 80a. 10ga seems to be adequate, in that its always worked for me but bigger is

Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport

2013-09-18 Thread Scott Ritchey
During the bad old days of the cold war, KC-135s on alert were fully fueled. During taxi the crew computed the max takeoff weight (based on pressure altitude and temp) and the boomer hosed the requisite offload out the back before taxiing onto the active runway. -Original Message-

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
why are you pretty sure of that? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I am pretty sure both engines were available. It would have helped to see a photo of either the engine or the trunk lid (to show the badging.) G :( On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 18, 2013 11:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I am pretty sure both engines were available. It would have helped to see a photo of either the engine or the trunk lid (to show the badging.) G :( You talking about the CL 280SEL I posted in the SF Bay area?

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread mlh
On Sep 18, 2013 1:27 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 18, 2013 8:37 AM, m...@voyager.net wrote: Bagelsport, MQJ, or whatever names (other than Rolex) they're using now, are a bargain for $25 or less. Can't find either of those names on eBay. Here's the

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-18 Thread Larry T
Congratulations! LarryT 78 240D 91 300D On 9/16/2013 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the engine, volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-18 Thread WILTON
'Nother ATTABOY. Wilt - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery Congratulations! LarryT 78 240D 91 300D On 9/16/2013 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey

2013-09-18 Thread Fmiser
Curt wrote: You're not really looking at the numbers here, you're saying 20 isn't that much more than 15 but it is 33 1/3% after all. In reality you've made my point again, you've got a 12 year old truck you've driven 66k, not even 6k a year, you're not a diesel truck person. A diesel

Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-18 Thread Larry T
was that an employer provided policy or direct purchase? I also have BCBS thru my wife's employer - the VA system (Dept of Vet Affairs) so I have n idea whether we are exempt or not. I did hear spouses on policies can be dropped. It also appears many regulations continue to be written by

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread Fmiser
Curt wrote: You've got the basics of how it works but I think you're over stating how big the wire has to be in the heavy section. Mine uses (I'm reasonably sure) 10ga which is a bit less (including insulation) than the diameter of a pencil. Not hard to work with. I know this works, its

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I recall seeing or hearing about one but am not betting the proverbial farm on it. On Sep 18, 2013 4:10 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: why are you pretty sure of that? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I am pretty sure both

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
i don't think there are any 6s that were officially 1973 108s. in 72, yes, all sorts but in 73 they went to the 116 and the 108s were all 4.5 liter V8 On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I recall seeing or hearing about one but am not betting the

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 18, 2013 2:26 PM, m...@voyager.net wrote: On Sep 18, 2013 1:27 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the MQJ sub, but this one has the Bagelsport name on it: http://search.ebay.com/121151996531 That looks nice for the price. I'm not going to waste $20 on

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-18 Thread Mitch Haley
m...@voyager.net wrote: I've got a diver styled Pulsar quartz alarm chrono with pepsi (blue/red) dive bezel and Seiko 1/5 second movement on black rubber. Probably what you were aiming for when you bought the Casio. I think it's this one, but I paid less than half of that for it. IIRC the alarm

Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport

2013-09-18 Thread Craig
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:01:50 -0400 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: During the bad old days of the cold war, KC-135s on alert were fully fueled. During taxi the crew computed the max takeoff weight (based on pressure altitude and temp) and the boomer hosed the requisite offload out

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread Craig
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote: Remember the older plugs that had bare wire running between them and a single feed from the end.. that wire was no bigger than #10 and prolly #12 in fact.  It glowed red, too, sometimes. That wire was

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread MG
Ah! I see now, you are saying wire a starter solenoid in place of the fuse. In that case yes you are correct. I thought you were saying to run the heavy wires to a switch in place of the fuse on the original relay to act like removing the fuse. putting the solenoid in that way would work as

[MBZ] Cheap Chinese parts are great

2013-09-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So my 99 E430 would not run. Well, it would run but after it warmed up you could not get it to rev up. I pulled the codes and had a few random ones but nothing that was turning on the check engine light. One of them was a MAF code and a pressure sensor code. So Ok, I though well its got to

Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese parts are great

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
so why you complain about uro flex discs and ball joints then? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: So my 99 E430 would not run. Well, it would run but after it warmed up you could not get it to rev up. I pulled the codes and had a few random ones but

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The 6.2 is the 240D of chevy, yes they are slow and probably considered underpowered by todays standards, but it will pull just about anything you want it to, just slowly. On 9/18/2013 10:54 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: This surprises me, I was always under the impression the 6.2 was a bit under

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread Craig
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 18:37:58 -0400 MG trainpain2...@aol.com wrote: Ah! I see now, you are saying wire a starter solenoid in place of the fuse. In that case yes you are correct. I thought you were saying to run the heavy wires to a switch in place of the fuse on the original relay to act

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread Curt Raymond
So properly speaking the solenoid is a portion of a relay? -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:35:02 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay Message-ID: F4909059A6224FC187187BD507C5E5A9@wiltonPC

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread Curt Raymond
Series wiring would require much heavier wire than parallel and if one wire failed you'd lose all the plugs after it where with parallel you only lose one. Mercedes did series wiring at one point, gave it up for a reason and theres a reason everybody switches to parallel. -Curt Date: Wed, 18

Re: [MBZ] China starts flights at world's highest airport

2013-09-18 Thread WILTON
On a taxi for a PRACTICE, SIMULATED wartime launch or on a wartime actual launch? 'Sounds logical for a REAL wartime launch, but for a SIMULATED launch? I was never launched on a REAL nuclear wartime mission (thank God); launched on SIMULATED such many times; don't think I ever took off

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-18 Thread Curt Raymond
As I was telling Fred a couple weeks ago Mercedes folks are enthusiasts, VW people are nuts. Diesel people appreciate a finely designed and built engine, gasser people are dang fools. Honestly though if I didn't have a highway commute I'd probably switch to a gasser. It doesn't take much

Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese parts are great

2013-09-18 Thread WILTON
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese parts are great So my 99 E430 would not run. Well, it would run but after it

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread WILTON
Yes, it takes a solenoid to make the relay work - connect the contacts and relay power through it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-18 Thread Curt Raymond
Oh sheesh, it just occurred to me the high power side of my relay is hooked to the output of the old glowplug fuse. I burnt one last summer when the wire leaned on the exhaust manifold. I'd forgotten all about it. -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:51:35 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
C is EGR, J is no EGR. All you have to do is swap the intake manifold. On 9/18/2013 2:23 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Whats the difference between C and J? Can you modify a C to a J? I don't want a 1ton pickup, I guess a 3/4 ton Sub I could live with ;) -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:14:39

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
not until he starts getting some guns and dogs. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So Jaime is becoming a redneck:) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:34 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it's time for you to know this. jaime used to confide

Re: [MBZ] OT: watches

2013-09-18 Thread OK Don
I have the Bulova Accutron that my father bought at a pawn shop when it was about a year old. The substitute batteries work in this one, and it keeps reasonably good time. I like to let paople listen to the hum --- Otherwise, haven't worn a watch in many years either, and keep reducing the number

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well 73 was a weird year for the 108 anyway because the 116 was out then, did they have just a few 108s at the beginning of the year? I always heard when you see a 73 108 its really just a left over 72 108. On 9/18/2013 5:06 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i don't think there are any 6s that were

Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese parts are great

2013-09-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well, thats quite a different story, if one of those even fits properly to install and blows up while driving, you can die. if a cheap sensor goes out, just replace it. On 9/18/2013 5:46 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: so why you complain about uro flex discs and ball joints then? On Wed, Sep 18,

Re: [MBZ] OT: watches

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
i used to have a lot of accutrons. there are parts issues and not a lot of guys who know how to work on them. i once considered investing in the tools and working on them as a hobby, but, like so many considerations, nothing came of it On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:16 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
possibly, but if it was just leftovers, why would they all be 8s? On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: well 73 was a weird year for the 108 anyway because the 116 was out then, did they have just a few 108s at the beginning of the year? I always heard

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
They probabably cant own guns up there in liberal land. I actually just aquired 10 more guns yesterday. I have 6 riffles and/or shotguns leaned up against my bedroom wall next to my bed while I figure out a place to store them because I have an overflow of guns. On 9/18/2013 6:13 PM, Gary

Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese parts are great

2013-09-18 Thread Gary Hurst
if htey are easy to replace, i'm all for cheap sensors. i think bosch prices are seriously ridiculous. what does an EZL for a 126 cost? like 2500 bucks? makes sense to just keep getting 50 buck knockoffs till somethig works On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Good question On 9/18/2013 6:23 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: possibly, but if it was just leftovers, why would they all be 8s? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese parts are great

2013-09-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
the new list sponsor is Autohaus AZ. They will sell Uro flex disks for $10 each, I get a kickback of $20 for each flex disk sold for example. I am not sure how that math works but I suspect cocaine is involved. On 9/18/2013 6:25 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: if htey are easy to replace, i'm all for

Re: [MBZ] W124 cruise controls

2013-09-18 Thread Peter Frederick
There are three failure modes for the CC -- bad amplifier, bad actuator, and bad speed sensor in the cluster. Typically a bad actuator takes out the amplifier due to excessive current, but the normal failure is either the Hall effect pickup speed sensor quits working (cracks) or the

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