Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Couple of differences from the Cummins. Top end there is like 2800 rpm and
the turbo is optimized for torque. Pretty sure you are rocking 600-plus
foot pounds of torque on that motor from 1200rpm or so. So the power and
torque is always there, more or less, throughout the rpm range, probably
with a vnt, and power does not increase dramatically with rpm.

The om606 has a 5500 red line (or so). Often the turbo will not boost until
3k (eg host hx40). So you get great economy off boost, but when you cane
it, all hell breaks loose. I plan to engineer around this to some degree,
but still. Maybe I will go hx35 instead, or compound.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Jan 4, 2016 10:38 AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sensible upper limit? For like real actual people?
>> At the crank 150hp, realistically nobody NEEDS more than 150hp for
regular driving in a passenger vehicle.
>> 350hp at the wheels is huge, my Dodge 1500 has 345 at the crank and its
an animal. Walked away up big hills in the white mountains with a 240D on a
heavy UHaul trailer.
>> -Curt
>>
>>
>>   From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  To: "mercedes@okiebenz com" 
>> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
>>  Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 1:20 PM
>>  Subject: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?
>>
>> For a daily driver, and occasional wife use, what would be your sensible
>> upper limit? 400 crank/350 wheels with 400 ftlb torque? Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] Shop heaters

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That's was a great show.

Speaking of sitcoms, does anyone know the name of a sitcom w/o laugh track
or live audience that features a Tennessee (or other southern?) nuclear
family?  In the episode I saw the Dad was whipping up the wife and kids for
a competition against a mortal enemy family who won the annual competition
(in events such as three legged race) the previous year.  I just about
split a gut laughing, but forgot the name of the show or the time slot.

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> Arlen.
>
> Rick
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>
> Hah.  I forgot about that.  Abilene or Amarillo?
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Hank is in Texas
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 1/4/16 11:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Ask for Hank Hill, local sales leader for propane and propane
> accessories.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 11:33 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, by all means, drop dynamite into an underground reservoir
> containing
> >>> several thousand cubic feet of natural gas. Please notarize your last
> >>> will
> >>> and put it in a safe place before the massive explosion. ;)))
> >>>
> >>> Now that we know there was at one time a source of natural gas, it is
> >>> indeed possible the heaters were jetted for natural gas, rather than
> >>> propane.
> >>>
> >>> I suggest you talk with your local propane gas supplier. My experience
> >>> is,
> >>> they are quite likely to have the proper jets in stock or can get them
> so
> >>> your heaters will perform properly and safely.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> --R wrote:
> 
> > Drop a coupla sticks of dynamite into the wells and see if you can
> >
>  frack
> >>>
>  yourself.  You might get enough out of them to heat the place!
> >
>  +1
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Re: [MBZ] Shop heaters

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Hah.  I forgot about that.  Abilene or Amarillo?

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hank is in Texas
>
> --R
>
>
> On 1/4/16 11:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Ask for Hank Hill, local sales leader for propane and propane accessories.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 11:33 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, by all means, drop dynamite into an underground reservoir containing
>>> several thousand cubic feet of natural gas. Please notarize your last
>>> will
>>> and put it in a safe place before the massive explosion. ;)))
>>>
>>> Now that we know there was at one time a source of natural gas, it is
>>> indeed possible the heaters were jetted for natural gas, rather than
>>> propane.
>>>
>>> I suggest you talk with your local propane gas supplier. My experience
>>> is,
>>> they are quite likely to have the proper jets in stock or can get them so
>>> your heaters will perform properly and safely.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> --R wrote:

> Drop a coupla sticks of dynamite into the wells and see if you can
>
 frack
>>>
 yourself.  You might get enough out of them to heat the place!
>
 +1

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Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Curt's truck is not diesel. It is a gasser - likely the 5.7 Hemi.

RB

On 04/01/2016 1:25 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

Couple of differences from the Cummins. Top end there is like 2800 rpm and
the turbo is optimized for torque. Pretty sure you are rocking 600-plus
foot pounds of torque on that motor from 1200rpm or so. So the power and
torque is always there, more or less, throughout the rpm range, probably
with a vnt, and power does not increase dramatically with rpm.

The om606 has a 5500 red line (or so). Often the turbo will not boost until
3k (eg host hx40). So you get great economy off boost, but when you cane
it, all hell breaks loose. I plan to engineer around this to some degree,
but still. Maybe I will go hx35 instead, or compound.

Thanks.

On Jan 4, 2016 10:38 AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Sensible upper limit? For like real actual people?
At the crank 150hp, realistically nobody NEEDS more than 150hp for

regular driving in a passenger vehicle.

350hp at the wheels is huge, my Dodge 1500 has 345 at the crank and its

an animal. Walked away up big hills in the white mountains with a 240D on a
heavy UHaul trailer.

-Curt


   From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
  To: "mercedes@okiebenz com" 
Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
  Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 1:20 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

For a daily driver, and occasional wife use, what would be your sensible
upper limit? 400 crank/350 wheels with 400 ftlb torque? Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] YOU NEED THIS!!!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

It is "sustainably sourced", which I take to mean that they can grow new
miners/quarry workers at will - - -

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> How can stone be sustainably produced?  Plant little stone tree saplings
> all over the countryside to replace what you've quarried?
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

It all depends on the weight of the vehicle, and the temperament/style of
the driver. 100HP is enough for my wife in most anything. 400HP is the
minimum for Regina (as I hear it). Actually, the more aggressive or on/off
the driver, the less power they should have under their right foot.
All that having been said, I fdon';t think there is such a thing as too
much power - just use what you need at the time.

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> For a daily driver, and occasional wife use, what would be your sensible
> upper limit? 400 crank/350 wheels with 400 ftlb torque? Thanks.
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-- 
OK Don

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for themselves."

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Depends. With all of the available technology in a modern MB (4matic, ABS, 
traction control, skid control, etc.) unlimited HP. 

Realistically, 400 HP, 500 lb.feet would be the upper limit, I would guess‎, 
and that in a heavy vehicle with abs and limited slip (ASR?, ASD?) (don't know 
all the acronyms). That would be a brutally quick car, with the ability to 
smoke the tires at any reasonable speed by simply mashing the go pedal. Fun to 
drive, but probably scary for SWMBO. 

Unless, of course, your SWMBO is Sabine Schmitz. :)

http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/watch-sabine-schmitz-pass-everyone-in-a-race-on-the-nur-1675796603


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Re: [MBZ] Shop heaters

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Arlen.

Rick
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop heaters


Hah.  I forgot about that.  Abilene or Amarillo?

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hank is in Texas
>
> --R
>
>
> On 1/4/16 11:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Ask for Hank Hill, local sales leader for propane and propane accessories.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 11:33 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, by all means, drop dynamite into an underground reservoir containing
>>> several thousand cubic feet of natural gas. Please notarize your last
>>> will
>>> and put it in a safe place before the massive explosion. ;)))
>>>
>>> Now that we know there was at one time a source of natural gas, it is
>>> indeed possible the heaters were jetted for natural gas, rather than
>>> propane.
>>>
>>> I suggest you talk with your local propane gas supplier. My experience
>>> is,
>>> they are quite likely to have the proper jets in stock or can get them so
>>> your heaters will perform properly and safely.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> --R wrote:

> Drop a coupla sticks of dynamite into the wells and see if you can
>
 frack
>>>
 yourself.  You might get enough out of them to heat the place!
>
 +1

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Re: [MBZ] YOU NEED THIS!!!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It means they obliterate the resource, then move on to another quarry.

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> It is "sustainably sourced", which I take to mean that they can grow new
> miners/quarry workers at will - - -
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > How can stone be sustainably produced?  Plant little stone tree saplings
> > all over the countryside to replace what you've quarried?
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Kaleb wrote:
> 
> I pulled the nozzles out of one of the heaters today,
> Sticker on the heater says nozzle size 23 (23 what not sure.)

I think it's standard for the orifice size to be listed in
drill number size.

> I found the manual online and it shows orifice size 23
> natural gas and propane 40.

Here is a handy reference for LP gas.
http://www.bergquistinc.com/sites/default/files/academy_guides/Handbook.pdf


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Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 12:26:06 -0700 Craig  wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 10:20:03 -0800 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > For a daily driver, and occasional wife use, what would be your
> > sensible upper limit? 400 crank/350 wheels with 400 ftlb torque?
> > Thanks.
> 
> Whatever a 1995 E320 has. The 1994 E420 was a lot of fun, but had more
> than what we really need.

And I should clarify that it's the power-to-weight ratio, not the raw
horsepower. Something heavier will need more; something lighter (like the
1969 Lotus Europa I had when in the USAF) will need less.


Craig


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 '72 220/8
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Re: [MBZ] YOU NEED THIS!!!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

How can stone be sustainably produced?  Plant little stone tree saplings
all over the countryside to replace what you've quarried?

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Bah! I only use the finest Corinthian leather on all surfaces regardless of
> usage. You have not felt luxury until you have leather switches.
>
> EdB
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Wood is so passe...
> >
> >
> >
> http://jalopnik.com/a-decade-after-mercedes-bentley-discovers-stone-interi-1750879566
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Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 10:20:03 -0800 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> For a daily driver, and occasional wife use, what would be your sensible
> upper limit? 400 crank/350 wheels with 400 ftlb torque? Thanks.

Whatever a 1995 E320 has. The 1994 E420 was a lot of fun, but had more
than what we really need.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Sensible upper limit? For like real actual people?
At the crank 150hp, realistically nobody NEEDS more than 150hp for regular 
driving in a passenger vehicle.
350hp at the wheels is huge, my Dodge 1500 has 345 at the crank and its an 
animal. Walked away up big hills in the white mountains with a 240D on a heavy 
UHaul trailer.
-Curt
 

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For a daily driver, and occasional wife use, what would be your sensible
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Re: [MBZ] YOU NEED THIS!!!

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 04/01/2016 1:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

It is "sustainably sourced", which I take to mean that they can grow new
miners/quarry workers at will - - -

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


How can stone be sustainably produced?  Plant little stone tree saplings
all over the countryside to replace what you've quarried?





Synthetic stone made from bio fuels.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 13:45:59 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Here is a handy reference for LP gas.
> http://www.bergquistinc.com/sites/default/files/academy_guides/Handbook.pdf

Thank you, Philip, for the reference.


Craig

P.S. Have you been affected by the flooding in Missouri?

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Re: [MBZ] holy crap this is nice

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Front bumper is screwed up.  Look at the angle in the first photo.  Driver’s 
seat is rough.  No engine compartment pictures.

Dan




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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SD-/26624310?forcerrptr=true=item3d0dafb636:g:utkAAOSwa-dWiViU=26624310
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Re: [MBZ] holy crap this is nice

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

Wish I had the $$$.


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[MBZ] This Cluck is Off His Onion

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This thread has been amazingly entertaining:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/374592-metal-top-1995-sl500-sale.html

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 04/01/2016 3:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Randy is right, my truck is a gasser.
I think you'll find that diesel engines get worse fuel economy off boost. My 
'98 Jetta gets on boost around 1200rpm which makes me think something is wrong 
with my '05 Golf that rockets off at 2200. If you're not making boost until 3k 
something is wrong with the turbo or the wastegate.
Remember you asked how much power do you NEED not how much you might want. I'm 
sticking by my answer, especially if the electronic nanny controls are no 
present. Not having traction control my '96 Dakota 5.2l, 205hp was a real 
handful in any slippery spots. My 2010 Dodge 1500 has excellent traction 
control and the 345hp is easy to handle and excellent even in the snow, even in 
2wd.
I'm in favor of the idea of a graduated drivers licensing system where a higher 
level of training (and the requisite testing) allows you to have a more 
powerful vehicle. Most people should probably be limited to sub 100hp levels...
-Curt

  


I am with Curt on this one too. I have a 2013 Ford F150 with the 5.0 
Coyote engine. 360 advertised HP if I recall correctly. I probably don't 
need it and most of the time I don't use it but when I need or want to 
pass on 2 lane highway on the way out to the lake, it does not 
disappoint me. My previous truck was a 2002 F150 with the 5.4 Triton 
engine. I don't recall the advertised HP but it was not nearly as 
powerful as the current one. It was still pretty good at passing speeds 
but a bit slower from starting up from a dead stop. The efficiency of 
the newer engines (and transmissions) means that the fuel economy on the 
newer truck is better than the older truck even though the newer one has 
more power. I am not sure what the fuel economy might be if I used the 
additional power all the time but since I do not, it is not material.


I guess the traction control is a good thing. I can turn it off if I 
don't want it. It should keep one from getting in trouble in some cases 
but it also means that one cannot goose the throttle and kick the back 
end around like we used to do on older vehicles. If I do that, it 
hesitates and that is a bit of an odd feeling when one is trying to make 
a quick left with traffic coming. One tries to do it quickly and get out 
of the way and the truck thinks it is spinning and tries to prevent it. 
Wierd if one is used to doing it the old way. I used to go out with my 
old 1968 Chevy 2WD pickup and play in the fresh snow. It was fun to 
slide the rear around.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea most people lease them I think.

On 1/4/2016 6:00 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Own it. It's my back-up energy source. I didn't know that they leased
propane tanks . . .

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Do you own the tank or lease it?







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[MBZ] It fell off

[clay via Mercedes]

Go fast pedal fell off Froggy, as I mentioned last week.  Airmatic pooped out 
on the W220.  Fresh pump went in at the indy, but same errors, so off to the 
dealer for diagnosis, which came back as failed sensor on passenger side and 
rear.  Stealership will give me 10% MBCA discount and do work Wednesday.

Go fast pedal issue on Froggy went to the indy to see if he was able to fix, as 
I had been warned not to mess with the car by myself, because he was no longer 
going to defornicate my "repairs".  Turned out indy was not able to effectuate 
repairs due to rusting off of metal tongue that holds the base of the pedal to 
the floor.  I was advised to contact a body shop to have repair to rusty floor 
area done.  I know a good shop, just expensive, and the job is a bit small for 
them.

I got Froggy back home, out of the rain, and took a bigger look at the pedal 
and floor.  I cut some nice steel to make a flange and base L.  The go pedal 
had failed historically, based on the set of screws holding the metal tab in 
the base of the pedal, instead of there being a plastic plug.   This will make 
installation hard, but I can machine out a spot in the new base.  Guess I will 
need to visit PnP to get a new clip/retainer/plug.

I pulled up the carpet and sound proofing to get a better look at the flooring. 
 Some prior work was done.  Looks like another person had faked up a pedal base 
and attached it in place of the original.  That bit of metal is what rusted 
away.  There is a sandwich of metal I now need to figure out if I chisel it off 
and clean up the flooring, or just weld my solution on top.  My POR 15 job on 
the floor is holding up well, with minimal rust coming through.  I was pretty 
sure I had taken that down to metal when I painted the product on.  Guess not 
as much as I had thought.  Ice pick will come out  to probe the depth of that 
problem.  No rust through from the underside.  May be that the undercoating it 
holding the floor together?  

At the moment I am baking the metal L base/flange after giving it some rust 
proof paint, then a good base primer, and a few coats of 040 black to protect 
the thing from rust.  That should do well enough to out survive me.  Shoe goo 
will no doubt hold the whole thing to the floor.  Though I could rivet it, just 
for belt and suspenders.




clay 

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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Yea most people lease them I think.



You are better off to own.  Then you can buy propane whenever you 
want, from whoever you want to buy from.


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Re: [MBZ] W140 Parts List

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I probably need that.  I have not beat the brake 
disks off the used wheel carriers I got for 
POSitive.  I suspect I'll need that kit.  Maybe I 
can get one disk off tomorrow and find out for 
sure if the shoes and other guts are ok.



Here it is:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ucmkislxgl5uo4v/1995%20S500%20coupe%20parts.pdf?dl=0

PM me if there's something you want. Make me an 
offer, I'm not pricing this stuff.  Be 
reasonable and you'll probably get it, as I'm 
getting tired of storing this junk.


I also came across a parking brake rebuild kit 
(Mercedes) that looks like it's for a W124, but 
could work with other cars:


124 420 07 20

Still in the box, although the box has seen better daysŠ.

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I think y'all have some confusion with horsepower and torque

Basically, power is speed, torque is acceleration.

--R

On 1/4/16 5:36 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:



On January 4, 2016 at 3:05 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:
And I should clarify that it's the power-to-weight ratio, not the raw
horsepower. Something heavier will need more; something lighter (like the
1969 Lotus Europa I had when in the USAF) will need less.

Yes. I was thinking 275hp is more than adequate in my W140, but would be quite a
handful if my W201 had it.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Give us a brake on that price!

--R

On 1/4/16 11:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I'm cleaning out the garage today, and found a couple of NOS brake lines for 
W123/4/6 cars.

They're still in the packaging and are "Pex" brand with Autohaus stickers on 
the packages.

129 428 00 35

$10 shipped for the pair.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

What sort of 140 parts?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2016, at 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Your all loosers, as Curly snagged them.
> 
> I have a bunch of W140 parts if anyone’s interested.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Give me a brake!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Do you own the tank or lease it?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2016, at 9:16 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Well, if it's too much heat for you, maybe I need one for the hangar - 2000
> sq. ft. I have a 500 gallon propane tank that I only use for the gas grill
> now . . .
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Randy is right, my truck is a gasser.
I think you'll find that diesel engines get worse fuel economy off boost. My 
'98 Jetta gets on boost around 1200rpm which makes me think something is wrong 
with my '05 Golf that rockets off at 2200. If you're not making boost until 3k 
something is wrong with the turbo or the wastegate.
Remember you asked how much power do you NEED not how much you might want. I'm 
sticking by my answer, especially if the electronic nanny controls are no 
present. Not having traction control my '96 Dakota 5.2l, 205hp was a real 
handful in any slippery spots. My 2010 Dodge 1500 has excellent traction 
control and the 345hp is easy to handle and excellent even in the snow, even in 
2wd.
I'm in favor of the idea of a graduated drivers licensing system where a higher 
level of training (and the requisite testing) allows you to have a more 
powerful vehicle. Most people should probably be limited to sub 100hp levels...
-Curt 

  From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 To: "mercedes@okiebenz com"  
Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
 Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 2:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?
   
Couple of differences from the Cummins. Top end there is like 2800 rpm and
the turbo is optimized for torque. Pretty sure you are rocking 600-plus
foot pounds of torque on that motor from 1200rpm or so. So the power and
torque is always there, more or less, throughout the rpm range, probably
with a vnt, and power does not increase dramatically with rpm.

The om606 has a 5500 red line (or so). Often the turbo will not boost until
3k (eg host hx40). So you get great economy off boost, but when you cane
it, all hell breaks loose. I plan to engineer around this to some degree,
but still. Maybe I will go hx35 instead, or compound.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Jan 4, 2016 10:38 AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sensible upper limit? For like real actual people?
>> At the crank 150hp, realistically nobody NEEDS more than 150hp for
regular driving in a passenger vehicle.
>> 350hp at the wheels is huge, my Dodge 1500 has 345 at the crank and its
an animal. Walked away up big hills in the white mountains with a 240D on a
heavy UHaul trailer.
>> -Curt
>>
>>
>>      From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  To: "mercedes@okiebenz com" 
>> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
>>  Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 1:20 PM
>>  Subject: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?
>>
>> For a daily driver, and occasional wife use, what would be your sensible
>> upper limit? 400 crank/350 wheels with 400 ftlb torque? Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Buy one outright, it will be cheaper in the long run.

We bought the tank that was at the house we built down here, and we saved a 
bundle over time.  The lease thing is a screw and also prevents you from buying 
fuel from another supplier.  That was one of the things that helped pay for our 
tank - I called around and got the best price when it needed to be filled.

I just checked a few suppliers online and a 250 gallon above ground tank can be 
had for between $500 and $800.  You can buy smaller tanks yourself - my local 
Ace has tanks up to 100 lbs., which are around $125.00, I believe.   I looked 
at buying one for our outdoor oven, but I don’t have a way to transport it to 
be filled.


Dan


> On Jan 4, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yea most people lease them I think.
> 
> On 1/4/2016 6:00 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> Own it. It's my back-up energy source. I didn't know that they leased
>> propane tanks . . .
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Do you own the tank or lease it?
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 4, 2016 at 3:05 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:

> And I should clarify that it's the power-to-weight ratio, not the raw
> horsepower. Something heavier will need more; something lighter (like the
> 1969 Lotus Europa I had when in the USAF) will need less.

Yes. I was thinking 275hp is more than adequate in my W140, but would be quite a
handful if my W201 had it. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Your all loosers, as Curly snagged them.

I have a bunch of W140 parts if anyone’s interested.

Dan


> On Jan 4, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Give me a brake!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have a list with descriptions and part numbers.  It’s several pages long.  I 
need to update it and I’ll post a link to it in a little bit so people can look 
at it if they’re interested.  Of course, some thigns fit other models, too.

Dan


> On Jan 4, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What sort of 140 parts?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Own it. It's my back-up energy source. I didn't know that they leased
propane tanks . . .

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Do you own the tank or lease it?
>
>


-- 
OK Don

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Re: [MBZ] W140 Parts List

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes I would want to own it for sure. You have to be careful buying used 
ones though because half the time the people are selling tanks that are 
actually leased.


On 1/4/2016 5:10 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I probably need that.  I have not beat the brake disks off the used 
wheel carriers I got for POSitive.  I suspect I'll need that kit.  
Maybe I can get one disk off tomorrow and find out for sure if the 
shoes and other guts are ok.



Here it is:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ucmkislxgl5uo4v/1995%20S500%20coupe%20parts.pdf?dl=0 



PM me if there's something you want. Make me an offer, I'm not 
pricing this stuff.  Be reasonable and you'll probably get it, as I'm 
getting tired of storing this junk.


I also came across a parking brake rebuild kit (Mercedes) that looks 
like it's for a W124, but could work with other cars:


124 420 07 20

Still in the box, although the box has seen better daysŠ.

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Give me a brake!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Give us a brake on that price!
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 1/4/16 11:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I'm cleaning out the garage today, and found a couple of NOS brake lines for 
>> W123/4/6 cars.
>> 
>> They're still in the packaging and are "Pex" brand with Autohaus stickers on 
>> the packages.
>> 
>> 129 428 00 35
>> 
>> $10 shipped for the pair.
>> 
>> Dan
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[MBZ] W140 Parts List

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Here it is:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ucmkislxgl5uo4v/1995%20S500%20coupe%20parts.pdf?dl=0

PM me if there’s something you want. Make me an offer, I’m not pricing this 
stuff.  Be reasonable and you’ll probably get it, as I’m getting tired of 
storing this junk.

I also came across a parking brake rebuild kit (Mercedes) that looks like it’s 
for a W124, but could work with other cars:

124 420 07 20

Still in the box, although the box has seen better days….

Dan


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[MBZ] holy christ this is nice

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

 But overpriced

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-4dr-300D-/131692865285?forcerrptr=true=item1ea981a705:g:c2gAAOSwoydWivX6=131692865285

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Re: [MBZ] holy christ this is nice

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have a couple of 115 300d's with cruise but they have the cruise stock 
by the turn signal stock like the later cars.  Never seen it like this 
setup before, which looks factory to me.


On 1/4/2016 6:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Beautiful car, but I’m wondering why we would care about the original tires?

I’ve never seen one of these with cruise.  That’s cool.

Dan



On Jan 4, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

But overpriced

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-4dr-300D-/131692865285?forcerrptr=true=item1ea981a705:g:c2gAAOSwoydWivX6=131692865285

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Re: [MBZ] holy christ this is nice

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Beautiful car, but I’m wondering why we would care about the original tires?

I’ve never seen one of these with cruise.  That’s cool.

Dan


> On Jan 4, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> But overpriced
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-4dr-300D-/131692865285?forcerrptr=true=item1ea981a705:g:c2gAAOSwoydWivX6=131692865285
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Re: [MBZ] Income Migration

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I found this site quite interesting:
http://www.howmoneywalks.com/irs-tax-migration/

The maps show (by state and by county) the gain or loss of aggregate income.
There appears to be a strong correlation with political orientation.

Scott


Money is flocking to the big cities run by marxists, where they want 
to give constituents anything they want, right?


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Re: [MBZ] YOU NEED THIS!!!

[clay via Mercedes]

I am wondering if it is REAL STONE, or contact paper.  Benz seems to use a 
variant of paper, as a rock would chip pretty quickly.   While waiting for the 
W220 to be diagnosed, I sat in the new S series.  I am really not impressed.  
Many of my fellow service department prisoners were of color, be it dark or 
jaundiced.  The look and feel of the new cars would appeal to that demographic. 
 Plasticky, swooppy, chromed plastic instead of pot metal, a spread of buttons 
and large led screens.  It was as if a BMW was raped by a Kia inside the cabin. 
 Sadly, the parts source felt like chinese rip offs, not tuetonic engineering.  
There is no longer a feel of hand made carriages, but of Walmart stamped low 
grade plastic toy.
clay


On Jan 4, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

> Wood is so passe...
> 
> http://jalopnik.com/a-decade-after-mercedes-bentley-discovers-stone-interi-1750879566
> 
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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

2 gal an hour. 

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> On Jan 4, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Didn't you say it was like 4 gal an hour? 100# can only has 25 gallons...
> 
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> From:"Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
> Date:Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:14 PM
> Subject:Re: [MBZ] More shop heater
> 
> I see used 4-500 gallon ones here for $4-500. I am just worried about them 
> either being leased or leaking. Do these things leak?  I'm thinking I'm 
> probably going with my original play and get a 100lb portable cylinder. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On January 4, 2016 at 6:13 PM Curly McLain via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> You are better off to own.  Then you can buy propane whenever you 
>>> want, from whoever you want to buy from.
>> 
>> The place I buy from charges an extra .20 per gallon for using their tank. 
>> Everybody gets at least .10 for it. 
>> If you can get a used tank for a dollar a nominal gallon, it'll never
>> depreciate. 
>> Looks like a new 500 is less than $1000 again at the current price of steel. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

There are only two suppliers in the Tampa area that I know of, Hillsboro Gas 
and TECO, our electrical utility.

When we moved into this house there was a TECO branded tank on the side of the 
house that fed the outdoor oven.  I called TECO to see what would be involved 
in getting it filled.

They wanted over $200 just to come out and inspect/leak test the tank.

I read the certification serial number and date to them over the phone, as it 
was still good.  They wanted nothing of this, they refused to fill the tank 
unless I paid them to do what I did and nothing more (understand that this has 
nothing to do with anything but the tank itself, no regulator, no lines, nada.)

I hung up on them and went to my local ACE Hardware, who had portable tanks up 
to 100 pounds.  I bought a 40 pound tank, which cost me like $65, and I take it 
to them to fill it.  Costs me $32 the last time I filled it, and it usually 
lasts anywhere from 7-8 months.  I would have gotten a larger tank but I don’t 
have a way to transport a larger one upright, which is a requirement for 
transporting them.

Dan

 
> On Jan 4, 2016, at 8:13 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I forgot to say, everybody around here claims it's illegal for them to deliver
> to me until I pay their tech to leak test my system. The place I'm using did 
> it
> for free, the others want $50 or more added to the cost of the first 
> delivery. I
> guess it's a new customer disincentive program. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] holy christ this is nice

[clay via Mercedes]

That is a SWEET example of a 115.  No way he gets his asking price.  #1 
condition valuation in WA is $14k.  Pebble Beach winner.

The CC is Ford Philco.  Vacuum/manual system that hooks into the speedo cable.  
Same sort of critter that Froggy has had removed, but for the switch.  The 
underhood hardware was still in the race car, but I could not find controls.

clay

On Jan 4, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

> I have a couple of 115 300d's with cruise but they have the cruise stock by 
> the turn signal stock like the later cars.  Never seen it like this setup 
> before, which looks factory to me.
> 
> On 1/4/2016 6:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Beautiful car, but I’m wondering why we would care about the original tires?
>> 
>> I’ve never seen one of these with cruise.  That’s cool.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> But overpriced
>>> 
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-4dr-300D-/131692865285?forcerrptr=true=item1ea981a705:g:c2gAAOSwoydWivX6=131692865285
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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes per heater. I'm planning on only running one of them.

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> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On January 4, 2016 at 8:24 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 2 gal an hour.
> 
> Per heater?
> A gallon is something like 95k BTU. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

[clay via Mercedes]

Uhm, 

I loved all 57HP in Gump.  A trusty OM615 pumping the car along the highway at 
a bone numbing 84MPH.  

I have yet to reach the top end of the M117 in the SL, or whatever beastie is 
powering a S430.  

clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
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On Jan 4, 2016, at 11:26 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 10:20:03 -0800 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> For a daily driver, and occasional wife use, what would be your sensible
>> upper limit? 400 crank/350 wheels with 400 ftlb torque? Thanks.
> 
> Whatever a 1995 E320 has. The 1994 E420 was a lot of fun, but had more
> than what we really need.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

My Jetta TDI has 90 at the crank and its plenty, it scoots right along.


Curt

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From:"clay via Mercedes" 
Date:Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:11 PM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

Uhm, 

I loved all 57HP in Gump.  A trusty OM615 pumping the car along the highway at 
a bone numbing 84MPH.  

I have yet to reach the top end of the M117 in the SL, or whatever beastie is 
powering a S430.  

clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
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On Jan 4, 2016, at 11:26 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 10:20:03 -0800 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> For a daily driver, and occasional wife use, what would be your sensible
>> upper limit? 400 crank/350 wheels with 400 ftlb torque? Thanks.
> 
> Whatever a 1995 E320 has. The 1994 E420 was a lot of fun, but had more
> than what we really need.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I see used 4-500 gallon ones here for $4-500. I am just worried about them 
either being leased or leaking. Do these things leak?  I'm thinking I'm 
probably going with my original play and get a 100lb portable cylinder. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On January 4, 2016 at 6:13 PM Curly McLain via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
> 
>> You are better off to own.  Then you can buy propane whenever you 
>> want, from whoever you want to buy from.
> 
> The place I buy from charges an extra .20 per gallon for using their tank. 
> Everybody gets at least .10 for it. 
> If you can get a used tank for a dollar a nominal gallon, it'll never
> depreciate. 
> Looks like a new 500 is less than $1000 again at the current price of steel. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

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> On January 4, 2016 at 8:24 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 2 gal an hour. 
>

Per heater?
A gallon is something like 95k BTU. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Mitch sez:

The tank discharges gas, which means it gets cold from liquid 
boiling off inside

it when the furnace runs. Might not be a problem in Okie temps, but when it's
-30 outside, the tank has to be reasonably large in comparison to 
the furnace or

you get into boiling point problems and loss of pressure.


yes, most tanks I am familiar with are 1000 gal.  some small use 
places had 500 gal. tanks.


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Re: [MBZ] the thug in chief

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

clay wrote:
> Berium O'Bummer is taking down the nation

Nope!!
I am taking down the nation.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

We have a 500 gal. tank that use to run the furnace and hot water  
heater.  Switched to natural gas when it went through 35 or so years  
ago.  Still use it for the shop (not attached to the house) and one  
baseboard heater in the addition I don't use much.


I suspect I will have to have it inspected before I can get it filled  
this year, it's been a while and I don't think the original company  
does propane anymore.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Same problem, you're not going to have much run time on a single 100# bottle. 
The filled bottle weighs way more than 100# too.
Of course it'll always run out on a cold night when you're trying to get 
something done...

-Curt 

  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
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2 gal an hour. 

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> On Jan 4, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Didn't you say it was like 4 gal an hour? 100# can only has 25 gallons...
> 
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> From:"Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
> Date:Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:14 PM
> Subject:Re: [MBZ] More shop heater
> 
> I see used 4-500 gallon ones here for $4-500. I am just worried about them 
> either being leased or leaking. Do these things leak?  I'm thinking I'm 
> probably going with my original play and get a 100lb portable cylinder. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On January 4, 2016 at 6:13 PM Curly McLain via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> You are better off to own.  Then you can buy propane whenever you 
>>> want, from whoever you want to buy from.
>> 
>> The place I buy from charges an extra .20 per gallon for using their tank. 
>> Everybody gets at least .10 for it. 
>> If you can get a used tank for a dollar a nominal gallon, it'll never
>> depreciate. 
>> Looks like a new 500 is less than $1000 again at the current price of steel. 
>> 
>> Mitch
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[MBZ] the unintended influence of Chuck Norris

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

http://www.wnd.com/2016/01/pbs-spotlights-how-chuck-norris-beat-communism/?cat_orig=world

Interesting article.  Somehow, apparently PBS backed in to the truth, 
inadvertently, as usual.


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[MBZ] the thug in chief

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Just shredded more of the bill of rights.

By official edict of his royal asinineness, b.o., criminal  in chief.

Will anyone be able to stand up to him?

Lenin, junior, marches on.

1st amend ment is gone
2nd is gone
4th is gone
power of the purse is gone.


The phrase "living constitution" comes out of woody wilson's 1908 
treatise on how to collapse the gooberment.


http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/mark-levin-on-president-woodrow-wilson/ 
shows how b.o. is wilson incarnate.  Both "progressive," both racist, 
both with no real world experience.


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Re: [MBZ] holy christ this is nice

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The 115 stock cc was on the stalk, and usually didn't work very well as I
recall.  I have never seen controls on the center console, but I agree, it
looks legit.

The asking price is BEYOND insane.  I don't care how nice it looks - this
is still a relatively common diesel sedan that has never been considered
collectible.

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:25 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> That is a SWEET example of a 115.  No way he gets his asking price.  #1
> condition valuation in WA is $14k.  Pebble Beach winner.
>
> The CC is Ford Philco.  Vacuum/manual system that hooks into the speedo
> cable.  Same sort of critter that Froggy has had removed, but for the
> switch.  The underhood hardware was still in the race car, but I could not
> find controls.
>
> clay
>
> On Jan 4, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
> > I have a couple of 115 300d's with cruise but they have the cruise stock
> by the turn signal stock like the later cars.  Never seen it like this
> setup before, which looks factory to me.
> >
> > On 1/4/2016 6:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Beautiful car, but I’m wondering why we would care about the original
> tires?
> >>
> >> I’ve never seen one of these with cruise.  That’s cool.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] the thug in chief

[clay via Mercedes]

I am reading a book by Orson Scott Card on just this theme.  Military decides 
that US of A has gone soft and destroyed too much of the Constitution, kills 
POTUS, gits martial law going and strips away the namby pamby liberal crapola.  
Berium O'Bummer is taking down the nation

clay

On Jan 4, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

> Just shredded more of the bill of rights.
> 
> By official edict of his royal asinineness, b.o., criminal  in chief.
> 
> Will anyone be able to stand up to him?
> 
> Lenin, junior, marches on.
> 
> 1st amend ment is gone
> 2nd is gone
> 4th is gone
> power of the purse is gone.
> 
> 
> The phrase "living constitution" comes out of woody wilson's 1908 treatise on 
> how to collapse the gooberment.
> 
> http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/mark-levin-on-president-woodrow-wilson/ shows how 
> b.o. is wilson incarnate.  Both "progressive," both racist, both with no real 
> world experience.
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Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

There is the argument that it is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a
fast car slowly. I did enjoy the 220D, but I also enjoyed the 200+ HP MGA.

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My Jetta TDI has 90 at the crank and its plenty, it scoots right along.
>
>
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> From:"clay via Mercedes" 
> Date:Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:11 PM
> Subject:Re: [MBZ] Poll: How much power is too much?
>
> Uhm,
>
> I loved all 57HP in Gump.  A trusty OM615 pumping the car along the
> highway at a bone numbing 84MPH.
>
> I have yet to reach the top end of the M117 in the SL, or whatever beastie
> is powering a S430.
>
> clay
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Income Migration

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Actually, the data shows money (income) leaving the big cities.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Curly McLain via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:37 PM
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> Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Income Migration
> 
> >I found this site quite interesting:
> >http://www.howmoneywalks.com/irs-tax-migration/
> >
> >The maps show (by state and by county) the gain or loss of aggregate
> income.
> >There appears to be a strong correlation with political orientation.
> >
> >Scott
> 
> Money is flocking to the big cities run by marxists, where they want to
give
> constituents anything they want, right?
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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 4, 2016 at 6:13 PM Curly McLain via Mercedes
>  wrote:

> You are better off to own.  Then you can buy propane whenever you 
> want, from whoever you want to buy from.

The place I buy from charges an extra .20 per gallon for using their tank. 
Everybody gets at least .10 for it. 
If you can get a used tank for a dollar a nominal gallon, it'll never
depreciate. 
Looks like a new 500 is less than $1000 again at the current price of steel. 

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 4, 2016 at 6:13 PM Curly McLain via Mercedes
>  wrote:

> You are better off to own.  Then you can buy propane whenever you 
> want, from whoever you want to buy from.

I forgot to say, everybody around here claims it's illegal for them to deliver
to me until I pay their tech to leak test my system. The place I'm using did it
for free, the others want $50 or more added to the cost of the first delivery. I
guess it's a new customer disincentive program. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

We were going to go to camp last week. All summer I'd kind of fretted that it'd 
be real cold and we'd have problems with the 20# propane tanks not keeping up 
with the lights or cookstove (woodstove for heat) but around Christmas they 
were still just at the freezing point with no snow. 
I decided not to go so of course Tuesday they got 2 feet...
-Curt

 

  From: Mitch Haley 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 10:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] More shop heater
   


> On January 4, 2016 at 10:07 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Same problem, you're not going to have much run time on a single 100# bottle.
> The filled bottle weighs way more than 100# too.
> Of course it'll always run out on a cold night when you're trying to get
> something done...

The tank discharges gas, which means it gets cold from liquid boiling off inside
it when the furnace runs. Might not be a problem in Okie temps, but when it's
-30 outside, the tank has to be reasonably large in comparison to the furnace or
you get into boiling point problems and loss of pressure. 


  
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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I will probably just look for a bigger non portable tank then.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Same problem, you're not going to have much run time on a single 100# bottle. 
> The filled bottle weighs way more than 100# too.
> Of course it'll always run out on a cold night when you're trying to get 
> something done...
> 
> -Curt 
> 
>  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 8:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] More shop heater
> 
> 2 gal an hour. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Didn't you say it was like 4 gal an hour? 100# can only has 25 gallons...
>> 
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>> From:"Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>> Date:Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:14 PM
>> Subject:Re: [MBZ] More shop heater
>> 
>> I see used 4-500 gallon ones here for $4-500. I am just worried about them 
>> either being leased or leaking. Do these things leak?  I'm thinking I'm 
>> probably going with my original play and get a 100lb portable cylinder. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On January 4, 2016 at 6:13 PM Curly McLain via Mercedes
  wrote:
>>> 
 You are better off to own.  Then you can buy propane whenever you 
 want, from whoever you want to buy from.
>>> 
>>> The place I buy from charges an extra .20 per gallon for using their tank. 
>>> Everybody gets at least .10 for it. 
>>> If you can get a used tank for a dollar a nominal gallon, it'll never
>>> depreciate. 
>>> Looks like a new 500 is less than $1000 again at the current price of 
>>> steel. 
>>> 
>>> Mitch
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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

 On Jan 4, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:


 Same problem, you're not going to have much run time on a single 
100# bottle. The filled bottle weighs way more than 100# too.
 Of course it'll always run out on a cold night when you're trying 
to get something done...



 > -Curt
 >


That is why most 100lb setups have 2 tanks.  run one empty then run 
the other while you get the other filled/replaced.


In N WI right now they want about $130 to exchange 100# bottles.

It is a ripoff.  but at $20 for a 20 lb bottle, it is not that far 
off.  Buck a pound, plus 30 to deliver and change.


OH! and if you conserve, they charge you $135 for "tank rental" 
because you didn't use enough gas.


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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Didn't you say it was like 4 gal an hour? 100# can only has 25 gallons...


Curt

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From:"Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
Date:Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:14 PM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

I see used 4-500 gallon ones here for $4-500. I am just worried about them 
either being leased or leaking. Do these things leak?  I'm thinking I'm 
probably going with my original play and get a 100lb portable cylinder. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On January 4, 2016 at 6:13 PM Curly McLain via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
> 
>> You are better off to own.  Then you can buy propane whenever you 
>> want, from whoever you want to buy from.
> 
> The place I buy from charges an extra .20 per gallon for using their tank. 
> Everybody gets at least .10 for it. 
> If you can get a used tank for a dollar a nominal gallon, it'll never
> depreciate. 
> Looks like a new 500 is less than $1000 again at the current price of steel. 
> 
> Mitch
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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 4, 2016 at 10:07 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Same problem, you're not going to have much run time on a single 100# bottle.
> The filled bottle weighs way more than 100# too.
> Of course it'll always run out on a cold night when you're trying to get
> something done...

The tank discharges gas, which means it gets cold from liquid boiling off inside
it when the furnace runs. Might not be a problem in Okie temps, but when it's
-30 outside, the tank has to be reasonably large in comparison to the furnace or
you get into boiling point problems and loss of pressure. 

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Re: [MBZ] the thug in chief

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Are Mercedes still allowed?

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 4, 2016 10:15 PM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Just shredded more of the bill of rights.
>
> By official edict of his royal asinineness, b.o., criminal  in chief.
>
> Will anyone be able to stand up to him?
>
> Lenin, junior, marches on.
>
> 1st amend ment is gone
> 2nd is gone
> 4th is gone
> power of the purse is gone.
>
>
> The phrase "living constitution" comes out of woody wilson's 1908 treatise
> on how to collapse the gooberment.
>
> http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/mark-levin-on-president-woodrow-wilson/ shows
> how b.o. is wilson incarnate.  Both "progressive," both racist, both with
> no real world experience.
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[MBZ] Income Migration

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I found this site quite interesting:
http://www.howmoneywalks.com/irs-tax-migration/

The maps show (by state and by county) the gain or loss of aggregate income.
There appears to be a strong correlation with political orientation.

Scott

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel pR0n

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Have you seen "The Power House" on the old Navy base?  We should buy it from 
North Charleston and turn it into a dance club.  I'll send a picture later.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 1, 2016 1:04:59 PM EST, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I really like the building too.  Something about old industrial 
>buildings with proper architecture...  I still remember a building
>along 
>the NYThruway near Albany somewhere (maybe, I forget exactly where)
>that 
>was a pump building or something, white block or concrete or stone or 
>something, with big tall windows, every time I would drive by I thought
>
>how beautiful it was.
>
>--R
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Re: [MBZ] holy crap this is nice

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes you are right I missed the bumper because it seems they were trying to not 
show it in the photos. With the price they are asking it should have a ton of 
photos.

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> On Jan 4, 2016, at 5:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Front bumper is screwed up.  Look at the angle in the first photo.  Driver’s 
> seat is rough.  No engine compartment pictures.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SD-/26624310?forcerrptr=true=item3d0dafb636:g:utkAAOSwa-dWiViU=26624310
>>  
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Re: [MBZ] holy crap this is nice

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I think that car has some warts that aren’t being disclosed.


> On Jan 4, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes you are right I missed the bumper because it seems they were trying to 
> not show it in the photos. With the price they are asking it should have a 
> ton of photos.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] holy crap this is nice

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Me too.
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> On Jan 4, 2016, at 6:58 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wish I had the $$$.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SD-/26624310?forcerrptr=true=item3d0dafb636:g:utkAAOSwa-dWiViU=26624310
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Re: [MBZ] holy crap this is nice

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

WellI have an 80 300SD with over 420,000 miles still running the original 
engine which has never required any work. So, if a new engine and rebuilt 
tranny were installed at less than 200,000, then I doubt this car has been as 
well cared for as indicated. It has a "shiny new paint job" to distract you 
from other possible issues. The price is way to high for this vehicle. 
Just my .02. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) 

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Re: [MBZ] Shop heaters

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Might as well drill your own well.
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On December 31, 2015 11:14:30 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>I will have to get the connection kit which has a hose and regulator
>etc. in an ideal world I would like to get a bigger 500 gal tank and
>also a run a line to the house and run a backup generator off it and
>possibly run some gas into the all electric house for maybe cooking, or
>maybe later down the line add propane aux heat to the heat pump instead
>of electric aux heat.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Wait for it

[toms cat1 via Mercedes]

Message: 6
Hi Dwight, 
 
Sorry I can't offer to finance that purchase.   ;)
 
I donated my W115 300D a couple of years ago, when I moved on to some new 
projects.  
 
I do still have some miscellaneous spare W115 parts in my garage, though.
 
Tom
 
 
 
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 23:10:53 -0500
From: Dwight Giles 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wait for it
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Well  Tom, are, you offering finance? Do you still have your 115  300D oil
burner?

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 3, 2016 10:42 PM, "toms cat1 via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Mitch and Dwight,
> You are correct! My error.
> I never went back to look at the ad.  :)  Oops.
> One is a Baur type roll bar cabrio, and the other is full cabrio.
> Buy them both, Dwight!  ;)
> Tom
  
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Re: [MBZ] Shop heaters

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I actually have an abandoned natural gas well on site. I don't think there is 
enough pressure on it to flow on its own though.

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> On Jan 4, 2016, at 6:41 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Contact the manufacturer, they may sell the right kit, which is basically a 
> replacement valve.  A good heating and air shop could probably also do the 
> work.
> 
> You could also frack your own natural gas well?
> .
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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> '95 E300
> 
>> On December 31, 2015 5:45:17 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> In my shop I have 2 large ceiling mounted gas heaters. There are lines
>> ran to a fitting mounted to the outside back wall of the shop. The
>> connections looks like you would connect a propane tank to it. We do
>> not have natural gas and as far as I know it is not available out in my
>> area. Is there a way I can tell if these heaters are setup for propane?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop heaters

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Maybe that’s why it’s abandoned?

Raw natural gas, which is mostly methane, I believe, is not the best stuff to 
be using for heating.  It’s really low in BTU content and has a lot of moisture 
in it, which means it needs to be dried out before use.

Dan



> On Jan 4, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I actually have an abandoned natural gas well on site. I don't think there is 
> enough pressure on it to flow on its own though.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Shop heaters

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Contact the manufacturer, they may sell the right kit, which is basically a 
replacement valve.  A good heating and air shop could probably also do the work.

You could also frack your own natural gas well?
.
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On December 31, 2015 5:45:17 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>In my shop I have 2 large ceiling mounted gas heaters. There are lines
>ran to a fitting mounted to the outside back wall of the shop. The
>connections looks like you would connect a propane tank to it. We do
>not have natural gas and as far as I know it is not available out in my
>area. Is there a way I can tell if these heaters are setup for propane?


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel pR0n

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

You can check it out on Google street view.

Dropped Pin

https://goo.gl/maps/5LsKBTUFAF52
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On January 4, 2016 7:54:02 AM EST, Max Dillon  wrote:
>Have you seen "The Power House" on the old Navy base?  We should buy it
>from North Charleston and turn it into a dance club.  I'll send a
>picture later.
>-- 
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>
>On January 1, 2016 1:04:59 PM EST, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>I really like the building too.  Something about old industrial 
>>buildings with proper architecture...  I still remember a building
>>along 
>>the NYThruway near Albany somewhere (maybe, I forget exactly where)
>>that 
>>was a pump building or something, white block or concrete or stone or 
>>something, with big tall windows, every time I would drive by I
>thought
>>
>>how beautiful it was.
>>
>>--R
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Re: [MBZ] This Cluck is Off His Onion

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Wow he must have smoked some serious crack

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2016, at 5:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This thread has been amazingly entertaining:
> 
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/374592-metal-top-1995-sl500-sale.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] This Cluck is Off His Onion

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Looking at the OP’s signature, I’m guessing they have lots of money and don’t 
really do much for their cars on their own.

If they had half of an understanding of the parts market, they would know that 
just because MB wants $20k for a hard top doesn’t mean it’s worth that in the 
aftermarket. One of the posters made this point quite well.


> On Jan 4, 2016, at 9:18 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow he must have smoked some serious crack
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 5:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> This thread has been amazingly entertaining:
>> 
>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/374592-metal-top-1995-sl500-sale.html
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Income Migration

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I don't understand how they figure what they are reporting. They say that
my county is gaining AGI, mostly from the county south of us, Oklahoma
County, home of Oklahoma City. Are they figuring that people in Logan
County work in OKC, but live elsewhere?

How is it that Oklahoma is losing $1.39 Billion per year to Texas???

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
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> Actually, the data shows money (income) leaving the big cities.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
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> > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:37 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Income Migration
> >
> > >I found this site quite interesting:
> > >http://www.howmoneywalks.com/irs-tax-migration/
> > >
> > >The maps show (by state and by county) the gain or loss of aggregate
> > income.
> > >There appears to be a strong correlation with political orientation.
> > >
> > >Scott
> >
> > Money is flocking to the big cities run by marxists, where they want to
> give
> > constituents anything they want, right?
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Re: [MBZ] FedEx Ape-like Package Handling - Resolved!

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Who are you and what have you done with Dan?
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On January 2, 2016 6:54:08 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
  Cosmetics don’t matter to me, so
>unless I’m worried about resale, I’m good.
>
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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Craig wrote:
> 
> > fmiser wrote:
> >
> > Here is a handy reference for LP gas.
> > http://www.bergquistinc.com/sites/default/files/academy_guides/Handbook.pdf
> 
> Thank you

Your welcome. *smiles*

> P.S. Have you been affected by the flooding in Missouri?

I have a reply to your earlier query in my outbox - I don't
know where or why it got lost so I sent it again.

Anyway, the flooding didn't effect me.  Some of the road
closings cause me to have to take alternate routes, but for
me the whole thing was no more than a minor annoyance.
Unlike the folks who's houses were full of water...

Tom Savage was in St. Louis.  Maybe he was washed away 'cause
I haven't heard from him for a while. 

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Re: [MBZ] the thug in chief

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Obummer has accomplished precisely nothing, save to shoot himself in the
foot:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/429235/obama-gun-control-executive-orders-mistake
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Re: [MBZ] This Cluck is Off His Onion

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The whole damn car is worth about half of what he wants for just the top.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Looking at the OP’s signature, I’m guessing they have lots of money and don’t 
> really do much for their cars on their own.
> 
> If they had half of an understanding of the parts market, they would know 
> that just because MB wants $20k for a hard top doesn’t mean it’s worth that 
> in the aftermarket. One of the posters made this point quite well.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 9:18 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow he must have smoked some serious crack
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 5:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This thread has been amazingly entertaining:
>>> 
>>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/374592-metal-top-1995-sl500-sale.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop heaters

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Looks like they have a web site for that:

http://www.oerb.com/well-site-clean-up

Dan

 
> On Jan 4, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I actually have 3 abandoned wells on my property. I thought that one was gas 
> but it could be crude. I know for sure one of them is crude because on 
> occasion I get a few drops coming out of one of the pipes. They have been 
> abandoned for years and from what I have been told there is a state agency 
> that you can call that will remove them for free. I have also been told that 
> if nobody comes around to work them after so many years the property owner 
> can file a claim to get the mineral rights back (which in OK you almost never 
> get the mineral rights when you buy property. May have to look into that.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] This Cluck is Off His Onion

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I believe a couple of the poster attempted to point that out….

Dan


> On Jan 4, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The whole damn car is worth about half of what he wants for just the top.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel pR0n

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Yes, I admire it whenever I go over there

--R

On 1/4/16 7:54 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Have you seen "The Power House" on the old Navy base?  We should buy it from 
North Charleston and turn it into a dance club.  I'll send a picture later.



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Re: [MBZ] Shop heaters

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Drop a coupla sticks of dynamite into the wells and see if you can frack 
yourself.  You might get enough out of them to heat the place!


--R

On 1/4/16 9:41 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I actually have 3 abandoned wells on my property. I thought that one was gas 
but it could be crude. I know for sure one of them is crude because on occasion 
I get a few drops coming out of one of the pipes. They have been abandoned for 
years and from what I have been told there is a state agency that you can call 
that will remove them for free. I have also been told that if nobody comes 
around to work them after so many years the property owner can file a claim to 
get the mineral rights back (which in OK you almost never get the mineral 
rights when you buy property. May have to look into that.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 4, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Maybe that’s why it’s abandoned?

Raw natural gas, which is mostly methane, I believe, is not the best stuff to 
be using for heating.  It’s really low in BTU content and has a lot of moisture 
in it, which means it needs to be dried out before use.

Dan




On Jan 4, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I actually have an abandoned natural gas well on site. I don't think there is 
enough pressure on it to flow on its own though.

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] Shop heaters

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I actually have 3 abandoned wells on my property. I thought that one was gas 
but it could be crude. I know for sure one of them is crude because on occasion 
I get a few drops coming out of one of the pipes. They have been abandoned for 
years and from what I have been told there is a state agency that you can call 
that will remove them for free. I have also been told that if nobody comes 
around to work them after so many years the property owner can file a claim to 
get the mineral rights back (which in OK you almost never get the mineral 
rights when you buy property. May have to look into that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Maybe that’s why it’s abandoned?
> 
> Raw natural gas, which is mostly methane, I believe, is not the best stuff to 
> be using for heating.  It’s really low in BTU content and has a lot of 
> moisture in it, which means it needs to be dried out before use.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I actually have an abandoned natural gas well on site. I don't think there 
>> is enough pressure on it to flow on its own though.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop heaters

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Ask for Hank Hill, local sales leader for propane and propane accessories.

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 11:33 AM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Yes, by all means, drop dynamite into an underground reservoir containing
> several thousand cubic feet of natural gas. Please notarize your last will
> and put it in a safe place before the massive explosion. ;)))
>
> Now that we know there was at one time a source of natural gas, it is
> indeed possible the heaters were jetted for natural gas, rather than
> propane.
>
> I suggest you talk with your local propane gas supplier. My experience is,
> they are quite likely to have the proper jets in stock or can get them so
> your heaters will perform properly and safely.
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > --R wrote:
> > > Drop a coupla sticks of dynamite into the wells and see if you can
> frack
> > > yourself.  You might get enough out of them to heat the place!
> >
> > +1
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Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

And the heat will be more even.
You will not have too much heat unless you turn the thermostat up too high.

RB

On 03/01/2016 8:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I suspect heat from each end is to get it hot faster. Remember you not only 
have to heat the place you have to heat the stuff in it which with a bunch of 
cars can take some time.
In my estimation you can't have too much heat in a shop...
-Curt
  


   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  To: Mercedes List 
Cc: Dan Penoff 
  Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 4:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] More shop heater

The rule of thumb is about 4 BTUs per cubic foot for an 8 foot ceiling and good insulation.


You’ve got a 2400 SF area, and if you figure 16 foot ceiling height on average, 
 you’ve got more than enough to heat the place nice and toasty warm.

Dan




On Jan 3, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

How high is the ceiling, or the roof?  I presume it’s got a hip roof.

Dan



On Jan 3, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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40x60 I believe.







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[MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I'm cleaning out the garage today, and found a couple of NOS brake lines for 
W123/4/6 cars.

They're still in the packaging and are "Pex" brand with Autohaus stickers on 
the packages.

129 428 00 35

$10 shipped for the pair.

Dan
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[MBZ] YOU NEED THIS!!!

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Wood is so passe...

http://jalopnik.com/a-decade-after-mercedes-bentley-discovers-stone-interi-1750879566

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’m sorry.  Hoses.  You could Google the part number and see pictures online….

Dan


> On Jan 4, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I'm cleaning out the garage today, and found a couple of NOS brake lines for 
>> W123/4/6 cars.
>> 
>> They're still in the packaging and are "Pex" brand with Autohaus stickers on 
>> the packages.
>> 
>> 129 428 00 35
>> 
>> $10 shipped for the pair.
>> 
>> Dan
> 
> HARD LINES OR HOSES?  If hoses, how long?  front or rear?
> 
> If hoses, I'll take em.
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Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I'm cleaning out the garage today, and found a couple of NOS brake 
lines for W123/4/6 cars.


They're still in the packaging and are "Pex" brand with Autohaus 
stickers on the packages.


129 428 00 35

$10 shipped for the pair.

Dan


HARD LINES OR HOSES?  If hoses, how long?  front or rear?

If hoses, I'll take em.

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Re: [MBZ] Shop heaters

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Hank is in Texas

--R

On 1/4/16 11:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Ask for Hank Hill, local sales leader for propane and propane accessories.

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 11:33 AM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:


Yes, by all means, drop dynamite into an underground reservoir containing
several thousand cubic feet of natural gas. Please notarize your last will
and put it in a safe place before the massive explosion. ;)))

Now that we know there was at one time a source of natural gas, it is
indeed possible the heaters were jetted for natural gas, rather than
propane.

I suggest you talk with your local propane gas supplier. My experience is,
they are quite likely to have the proper jets in stock or can get them so
your heaters will perform properly and safely.

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


--R wrote:

Drop a coupla sticks of dynamite into the wells and see if you can

frack

yourself.  You might get enough out of them to heat the place!

+1

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Re: [MBZ] Shop heaters

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

--R wrote:
> Drop a coupla sticks of dynamite into the wells and see if you can frack
> yourself.  You might get enough out of them to heat the place!

+1

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