Re: [MBZ] I'm Proud to be an Okie from Muskogee

2016-04-06 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes
79 Passed Away on his Birthday On Wed,4/6/16 22:07, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: That was my first introduction to OK and to Merle Haggard. RIP Merle, you were one of a kind! I would have guessed he was in his 80s or 90s. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 23:19:08 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > Yep, that's a drain vent. 'Installed most often immediately under > cabinet top. Installed in lieu of vent stack through roof. Sorry, Wilton, it is not a drain vent. It's a vacuum breaker in the drain line

[MBZ] Yes, even more on the latest dishwasher saga

2016-04-06 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Kaleb, If you've got in cleaned out and working, I would recommend changing the drain as others have suggested and leave the DW alone. Return the Bosch and use the money on your true love, your MB cars. Again, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Or in this case, replace it. Roger Roger Hale

[MBZ] I'm Proud to be an Okie from Muskogee

2016-04-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
That was my first introduction to OK and to Merle Haggard. RIP Merle, you were one of a kind! I would have guessed he was in his 80s or 90s. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Yep, that's a drain vent. 'Installed most often immediately under cabinet top. Installed in lieu of vent stack through roof. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Craig"

Re: [MBZ] If Money and Space Were No Object

2016-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
A guy who lived near me in Houston had a coupla of old Caddies kinda like that one, his were limos, maybe from the late 30s? They looked similar. They were pretty rough, one better than the other but he was going to restore one using parts from the other. They were massive, and Very Cool.

Re: [MBZ] If Money and Space Were No Object

2016-04-06 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Suweet. So would I. Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On Apr 6, 2016 8:29 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > I would like to have this car: > > >

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD Starts and stalls

2016-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Has it joined a govt union recently? Has it transgendered to female? (I understand that behavior can sometimes occur, so I've been told) If not, I would CHANGE YOUR FUSES then CHECK YOUR FILTERS. Could be the ALDA too? Are all your hoses connected and that one from the back of the intake

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD Starts and stalls

2016-04-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Clogged fuel filter or other lack of sufficient fuel. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I thought maladjusted valves led to hard starting woes. Still, it's been > awhile since they were adjusted so that could be it. > > On Wed, Apr

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD Starts and stalls

2016-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I thought maladjusted valves led to hard starting woes. Still, it's been awhile since they were adjusted so that could be it. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: > Valve adjustment? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 6, 2016, at 10:18 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 15:02:45 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > Speaking of disposals, we had one in our other house on septic but > there is not one here. Wife wants one but I told her it would lead to > having to have the tank pumped more often. That is

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD Starts and stalls

2016-04-06 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Valve adjustment? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 10:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > My 1983 30TD has for the past few months been acting like a gas car. It > fires up, then idles slowly and stalls out. I have to warm it up for this >

[MBZ] W123 300TD Starts and stalls

2016-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My 1983 30TD has for the past few months been acting like a gas car. It fires up, then idles slowly and stalls out. I have to warm it up for this behavior to cease. Should I simply raise the idle speed mechanically or is something else going on here? Andrew 1983 300TD Stalls when cold 1985

Re: [MBZ] If Money and Space Were No Object

2016-04-06 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
That is nice! Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I would like to have this car: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-Other-/201555896390?forcerrptr=true=item2eedaae846:g:SRIAAOSwMSlXAxuM=201555896390 > >

Re: [MBZ] If Money and Space Were No Object

2016-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
WTF: "Good overall hydroelectrics with 2 of 9 window switches needing repair." On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I would like to have this car: >> >> >>

Re: [MBZ] Interesting Project?

2016-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Starts but won't run... What's the simplest and cheapest explanation? On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Since you volunteered, I'd swap you a food OM603 and trans, car included, > for the engine and trans out of that SL, assuming it is

[MBZ] Yes, even more on the latest dishwasher saga

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Last night ran empty load with baking soda and vinegar. Today went to Walmart and bought dishwasher magic and ran that. When it was done the washer was noticeably cleaner. Ran the load of glasses that have been thru the washer at least 5-6 times as well as a few other dishes. The load just got

Re: [MBZ] If Money and Space Were No Object

2016-04-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I would like to have this car: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-Other-/201555896390?forcerrptr=true=item2eedaae846:g:SRIAAOSwMSlXAxuM=201555896390 I love my old Cadillac

Re: [MBZ] Interesting Project?

2016-04-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Since you volunteered, I'd swap you a food OM603 and trans, car included, for the engine and trans out of that SL, assuming it is good. OK Donn sez: That would be a good candidate for an OM603 swap - - - On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com>

[MBZ] If Money and Space Were No Object

2016-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I would like to have this car: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-Other-/201555896390?forcerrptr=true=item2eedaae846:g:SRIAAOSwMSlXAxuM=201555896390 I love my old Cadillac limos.

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
The "contraption" you mentioned may be a vent, or air admittance valve, which is often used in lieu of a vent pipe or stack that otherwise may need to protrude through the roof (usually). Vent to atmosphere is necessary to allow the system to drain properly and to prevent the water from being

Re: [MBZ] Ok don could work out a trade

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
You need to get him to sell it to me Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 6:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > He was not interested in selling it last time we talked about it, but he > was interested in getting me to get it running again - for free . . . . > >

Re: [MBZ] Ok don could work out a trade

2016-04-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
He was not interested in selling it last time we talked about it, but he was interested in getting me to get it running again - for free . . . . On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Does he want to sell it? > > Sent from my iPhone > > >

Re: [MBZ] Ok don could work out a trade

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Does he want to sell it? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 6:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > You don't get much airplane for $11,000 these days . . . One of these is > in a hangar on the other side of the runway from me, apporx. 150k miles, > been sitting

Re: [MBZ] Interesting Project?

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yea. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > The price is right: > > http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5523059136.html > > > > Dan >

Re: [MBZ] Interesting Project?

2016-04-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
That would be a good candidate for an OM603 swap - - - On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The price is right: > > http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5523059136.html < > http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5523059136.html> > > > Dan >

Re: [MBZ] Ok don could work out a trade

2016-04-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
You don't get much airplane for $11,000 these days . . . One of these is in a hangar on the other side of the runway from me, apporx. 150k miles, been sitting for 20 or so years. He's keeping it for sentimental reasons, and I don't want to rebuild or troubleshoot the fuel injections (K-Jet?). On

[MBZ] Interesting Project?

2016-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The price is right: http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5523059136.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] Are 450's going up in value?

2016-04-06 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Kaleb, I have a 1980 300SD. It currently has around 425,000 miles. I had the tranny replaced with a used one. Had problems until I determined it was the vacuum module on top of the IP. So I just bypassed it and now it shifts fine (a little firm, but ok for me). Other than the tranny, this car

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Wilton, In looking again at my connection, my under sink drain does have some contraption plumbed in after the trap which could be an anti siphon vent. My DW drain comes into the drain just after the two sink bowls and just before the trap. The plumber used a downward pointing "Y" connector

Re: [MBZ] Ok don could work out a trade

2016-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
All dressed up with nowhere to go. $11,000 for a non driving sedan? On Apr 6, 2016 5:36 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > 1972 Mercedes 280 SE 4.5L > http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/bar/5495323506.html > > via cPro for Craigslist > iOS:

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Curt, I think mine was a GE, at least I use GE filters, which you can buy in various types (taste, particulate, etc.). I had it installed inline before the main water line gets to anything, thus the whole house is filtered. I also have a filter in my refrig for water and ice. Since it's now

Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

2016-04-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Too cool for school. I'd love one but not without somewhere to keep it out of the elements... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 5:46 PM Subject: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

2016-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I need it but my driveway isn’t big enough. Dan > On Apr 6, 2016, at 5:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > 1967 mercedes benz 200d diesel > http://memphis.craigslist.org/cto/5503861702.html > > via cPro for Craigslist > iOS:

[MBZ] Somebody needs this

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
1967 mercedes benz 200d diesel http://memphis.craigslist.org/cto/5503861702.html via cPro for Craigslist iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Are 450's going up in value?

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yes I like the 116. I would like to find a diesel one. I have had a few 450s. They were always worth very little and usually trashed. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 4:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I had the option to buy one of those cheap

Re: [MBZ] Are 450's going up in value?

2016-04-06 Thread clay via Mercedes
Maybe the W116 cars are getting more interesting, but I do not think they are going to command his price. Fix the seat, and maybe. There are too many common parts with a R107 that get stripped at PnP or go into an SD, not a petrol car. clay On Apr 6, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via

[MBZ] Ok don could work out a trade

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
1972 Mercedes 280 SE 4.5L http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/bar/5495323506.html via cPro for Craigslist iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Are 450's going up in value?

2016-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That one that I was considering down here last year was asking around this price and it was far better. More miles, but very well maintained and full records. This one looks nice outside but the interior is a mess. Engine compartment doesn’t look good, either. Dan > On Apr 6, 2016, at

[MBZ] Are 450's going up in value?

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have been seeing 450's listed lately for what I consider crack money. Maybe they are starting to go up? 1978 Mercedes 450 SEL http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/5526634919.html via cPro for Craigslist iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] Are 450's going up in value?

2016-04-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I had the option to buy one of those cheap cheap in Florida back in 2002 when I had my 300TD. I should have bought it, the 116 is a glorious car to drive... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Got ya Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:52 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > > No, angled downslope as it is now, so the water doesn't hafta change > direction immediately after entering the drain - keep the flow going > downslope like it is now. > > Wilton >

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
No, angled downslope as it is now, so the water doesn't hafta change direction immediately after entering the drain - keep the flow going downslope like it is now. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
And I grew up in houses that had NO indoor plumbing. Little "outhouse" in back yard was used "as necessary" and we took baths in a laundry tub in the kitchen or a bedroom. I installed plumbing in that house for my mom in 1970, when I was 36. Wilton - Original Message - From:

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Heck the shower in my grandparent's house used to do that on the regular when I was a lad. Finally my uncle had enough and put in a new shower and actually glued the fittings together. Of all the things my grandfather was he wasn't much of a plumber... -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Oh my lord. So they forgot to hook it up. Wow. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:34 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > > I inspected a $500 k+ house here in Goldsboro, NC, 'bout 20 years ago that > had been occupied for about 5 years. At a shower in one of the

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
I inspected a $500 k+ house here in Goldsboro, NC, 'bout 20 years ago that had been occupied for about 5 years. At a shower in one of the 1F bathrooms, I directed my flashlight beam into the shower drain and looked directly at muddy ground under the house. Under the house, I found the drain

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Thats how the washing machine at my parents house works except it drains into a pipe that goes across the street and drains into a pasture. The pipe is clay and occasionally they'll be taking hay off the pasture and crush the end of the pipe. One year that made my parent's house flood really

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yes that is my point. While I don't think the way it is plumbed is ideal, I don't really think it is the cause of my problem. But then again this could just be poos wanting me to install that Bosch I have sitting out in the suburban. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Dan

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Does it look like a shallow upside down cup? I think I've seen them before and wondered what it was. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:15 PM

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That t has a little angle to it, so you are saying it needs to be opposite of how it is now, it currently angles up but I should move it and have it angle down? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:23 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > > My thought, too. Swap the

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Air gaps are like antisiphon valves, determined by local codes. Darned antisiphon valves are a requirement here, and they netball the kind that if they are removed it trashes the fitting. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Apr 6, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This is key in deconstructing what is going on. If the install was bad you would have had these issues in short order after putting it in service. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I wonder why if that is

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Great minds think alike! See your picture with red circles of what should be swapped. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:23 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > My thought, too. Swap the dishwasher drain "T" with the horizontal pipe > immediately

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
My thought, too. Swap the dishwasher drain "T" with the horizontal pipe immediately above the trap; make sure the DW drain connection is on topside of pipe and "headed/angled" down slope (toward the trap). Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Maybe I should just cut a hole in the floor and stick the hose down there and just let it drain under the house. Many years ago we used to live in a house in the country when I was a kid and the washing machine was on a separate drain pipe that just went out back and drained into the pasture.

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
If Wilton speaks in the forest and his wife is not around, he can't be wrong --R On 4/6/16 3:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: When pins drop, Wilton cannot be heard. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: When Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
yes absolutely do that otherwise you can get sewer vapors coming in too, which is what the trap is designed to prevent --R On 4/6/16 4:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: If you look at the photo I sent earlier, it looks like I could just swap the section where the dishwasher drain

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Been lucky at BOTH houses. Maybe we oughta "throw-in" together for a lottery ticket. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin"

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
It is a vent thing that goes in the countertop and the drain goes up through it to function as an anti-siphon one-way air valve to prevent dirty water from being sucked back into the DW. Had one in Houston, never seen them anywhere else. If the line is plumbed correctly there should not be

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The air gap just depends on the plumbing codes in your area. I am not thinking I need to move my pipes around. They are just pvc so thru should be easy to unscrew and move Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Wilton - do you make house calls? I'm pretty sure my DW hookup is incompatible with the plumbing codes of any country in the first, second or third worlds. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > Then, you must have an up loop to at least highest

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
If you look at the photo I sent earlier, it looks like I could just swap the section where the dishwasher drain goes into to the section right above the trap, just swap those 2 sections of pipe. This would lower the level of the trap a bit. Not sure that it would matter though. Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Then, you must have an up loop to at least highest possible water level in the sink - usually touching underside of cabinet top by the sink or underside of sink at cabinet top level. Additional air gap not required here, either. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Oh lord I have really started something. Here is a photo of mine. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > I think I'm going to check my DW drain installation when I get home... > > - > Max > Charleston

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well I will say this, in the other house that is now our rental property the drain tube comes straight thru the side of the cabinet and runs up to the disposal. Have not had these sorts of problems there. This one goes up over the side wall of the cabinet and connects directly to the drain pipe

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Oh, one CAN physically plumb it downstream of the trap - like somebody on the list already said that he saw (in his own house? 'don't remember), but it is "dangerous" to do so. For possible health and other reasons, the DW drain should discharge ABOVE the trap + up loop and/or air gap.

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
When pins drop, Wilton cannot be heard. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > When Wilton speaks, people listen. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, WILTON via Mercedes > wrote: > > > >

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
When Wilton speaks, people listen. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:54 PM, WILTON via Mercedes > wrote: > > Google "plumbing dish washer drain;" click on "images for plumbing dishwasher > drain." > > I have spoken. > > Wilton > > - Original Message

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
If you mean the air gap thing no, they are not required here. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > Do you have an anti-siphon vent on it? I have had one with and two without, > never noticed any issue either way.

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I wonder why if that is the case it all the sudden started causing problems. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > I think you may have found your culprit: drain issue. > > Get a copy of the installation instructions

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Wilton's suggestion lead me to a blog about DW drains, and according to this guy, one CANNOT plumb the drain to the downstream of the P-trap. In addition, there must be an up-loop or an air-gap fitting between DW and connection to drain pipe, even if the DW already has an up-loop on the side of

Re: [MBZ] I challenge anyone to bid on this 240D with NO RESERVE

2016-04-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Well... The bidding has been feverish over the past 3 hours I'm out of the running at $7.00 someone must really want this.. haha. Andrew... send me your Panama account details so I can launder a few million in ill gotten gains from the Clinton Foundation...

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
The up loop to possible highest water level in the sink prevents water from sink draining back into the washer in case of a defective (leaking) valve in the dishwasher. Anti-siphon vent is any type of air gap in the drain line; most of the time (an exception could be having a sink and its

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I think I'm going to check my DW drain installation when I get home... - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:54 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > Google "plumbing dish washer drain;" click on "images for plumbing > dishwasher drain." > > I have spoken.

Re: [MBZ] I challenge anyone to bid on this 240D with NO RESERVE

2016-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I am not ultra rich but will get caught for the slightest infraction ($100 DC parking violations, jaywalking citation,etc.) On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Andrew wrote: > > I am serving as seller's broker. Winning buyer pays a 10

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Our dishwasher and kitchen sink drain hook up with the shower drain in the basement. When the drain backed up, there was a lovely smorgasbord of food bits spewed out all over the shower pan. :(( I now need to reroute the drain pipes to correct what the a**h*le PO should never have done in the

Re: [MBZ] I challenge anyone to bid on this 240D with NO RESERVE

2016-04-06 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: > I am serving as seller's broker. Winning buyer pays a 10 percent buyer's > premium directly into my Panamanian account. Panama? Are you one of those guys in Panama Papers? Reveal of shenanigans of ultra-rich carried out by Mossack Fonseca of Panama. Nice! NOT!! mao

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
What do you have for a whole house filter? Our water district limes the water pretty hard to keep the lead pipes from killing us. I'm pretty sure there are no lead pipes headed to my house but some of the older service areas do have them. Our water tastes fine fresh out of the tap but

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Rich, don't know what the anti siphon vent is. Everything works ok on mine so apparently I don't need it. Wilton, it seems the up loop would serve the same purpose as the trap. Again, since my unit works fine, I apparently don't need it. As I've said before, I may have just been lucky. Or it

[MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Google "plumbing dish washer drain;" click on "images for plumbing dishwasher drain." I have spoken. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet

Re: [MBZ] I challenge anyone to bid on this 240D with NO RESERVE

2016-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
wrong coast --R On 4/6/16 1:04 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: That's a sharp looking car, I'll bet it goes pretty high. Re-power with a bigger engine, create a 240 3.0 ala Craig's car. Rich - here's a great use for your '79 wagon engine, transplant over the SLS bits for something

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Yep. 'Had a rental house about 30 years ago that had that problem. Tenants had never said anything about problem with dishwasher. During my inspection while they were moving, I opened the dishwasher and was "thrown" backward gagging and gasping for air and nearly throwing up from the

Re: [MBZ] I challenge anyone to bid on this 240D with NO RESERVE

2016-04-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 13:04:55 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > That's a sharp looking car, I'll bet it goes pretty high. Indeed! Its body is in MUCH better condition than our '82 240D/3.0. Looking at all the pictures on his website, 1978mercedes.weebly.com, you can

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
This all makes me think our DW install is the best possible system. We're fortunate in that the DW sits directly over the drain pipe from the sink. So it drains directly down into its own trap, the drain pipe is maybe 2 feet long. The water feed pipe is also under the DW although just off to

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:07:00 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > 'Should have an up loop. Yes, indeed! That or a vacuum breaker, else stuff in the drain pipe will get back in the dishwasher. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] I challenge anyone to bid on this 240D with NO RESERVE

2016-04-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I am serving as seller's broker. Winning buyer pays a 10 percent buyer's premium directly into my Panamanian account. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That's a sharp looking car, I'll bet it goes pretty high. > > Re-power with a bigger

Re: [MBZ] I challenge anyone to bid on this 240D with NO RESERVE

2016-04-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That's a sharp looking car, I'll bet it goes pretty high. Re-power with a bigger engine, create a 240 3.0 ala Craig's car. Rich - here's a great use for your '79 wagon engine, transplant over the SLS bits for something really unique. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:54

Re: [MBZ] I challenge anyone to bid on this 240D with NO RESERVE

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[MBZ] I challenge anyone to bid on this 240D with NO RESERVE

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Re: [MBZ] OT Netflix

2016-04-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Do you have an anti-siphon vent on it? I have had one with and two without, never noticed any issue either way. Might be a local code issue. --R On 4/6/16 10:44 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote: Kaleb, I just checked my Maytag installation which works with no problems. The drain line

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Should have an up loop. Wilton - Original Message - From: "rogerhga--- via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Should be BEFORE the trap! After the trap can allow some BAD stuff to enter the dishwasher. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin"

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Kaleb, I just checked my Maytag installation which works with no problems. The drain line comes out the bottom, no up loops, and goes into the kitchen sink drain "before" the trap. Therefore, the trap prevents any gases or odors getting back into the DW, just like traps work in other parts of

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: This is the smartest Smart there is aRMjsmOCo4

2016-04-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Similar to what I'd like to build out of a Suzuki Vitara or Chevy Tracker though I want to use 31" tires... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Rich Thomas Sent:

[MBZ] Fwd: This is the smartest Smart there is aRMjsmOCo4

2016-04-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Its ok to plumb it in after the trap. The DW drain effectively has its own trap/ I think you may have found your culprit: drain issue. Get a copy of the installation instructions for your current dishwasher, probably a download online, and find out how the drain is really supposed to be

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 08:47:28 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > We have not had a problem with the sink backing up. From what I read > having it connected below the trap leaves the possibility of gases > coming into the dish washer but with the loop on the side

Re: [MBZ] Yet even more dishwasher talk

2016-04-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Take the drain hose off the disposer, cut a hole in the lid of a 5 gal bucket, stick the hose in there. run a cycle. You can tell if it is pumping out at full force. You might also check the disposer to be sure it is not restricting the flow. Btw I agree it seems like it's not draining

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