Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

2017-12-10 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> > > OK Don wrote: > > > > > > I'm thinking of building a trap consisting of several (5 to > > > 7) sheets of 3/4" plywood, separated by 2X4's on the long > > > edge, with the space between the sheets filled with sand. > > Curt wrote: > > > > Back the "trap" with about 100 cubic yards of sand

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
I really love my VW Beetle TDI. There is now a fix for the 2009-2014 TDI’s, so there will be plenty from which to choose once the previously bought back models hit the market Kevin in Hillsboro, OR Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 10, 2017, at 8:08 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
I'll see what I can do for ya'll about the pictures... I understand what you mean about the appliance feel.  I'm not crazy about leaving the MB family... LarryT On 12/10/2017 7:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Larry sez: ‎I might look for >Camry/Avalon/Maxima/Accord and be >done

Re: [MBZ] RIP My 91 300D

2017-12-10 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
They said I am allergic to the bone cement they use which caused the 1st two to loosen and break, #3 was a temp spacer used while we did the allergy tests and #4 lasted a little over 3 years.  #5 is in now.  After two weeks they did x-rays which showed the upper stem of the prosthesis had

Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

2017-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Those would be nice, for sure. For now I’m just going to go with the wrap around grip as it’s been recommended to me by a couple of people for allowing a good grip, better than with the stock grips. Once I get some more rounds through it and become more comfortable with it I may decide to

Re: [MBZ] Email threading

2017-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
That's what we all see when you post, or 90% of the time when you post. Mitch. > On December 10, 2017 at 9:50 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Strangely I got my last post doubled... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] Email threading

2017-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Strangely I got my last post doubled... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 7:46 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I'm now seeing all of my posts and some of Curt's twice - over the last 3 days. Never happened before . . . On Thu, Dec 7,

Re: [MBZ] Email threading

2017-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Strangely I got my last post doubled... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 7:46 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I'm now seeing all of my posts and some of Curt's twice - over the last 3 days. Never happened before . . . On Thu, Dec 7,

Re: [MBZ] E320 winter beater?

2017-12-10 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I have named it Barney, because it's purple on the outside and kind of slimy and gross on the inside. (It'll clean up, if/when the mechanicals are dealt with.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Might try a Jetta or Passat diesel. Fine automobiles EPA be dammed. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: Yep,  still have the 911.  Unfortunately, I haven't driven it since Nov. 2016 and I sorely

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Might try a Jetta or Passat diesel. Fine automobiles EPA be dammed. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: Yep,  still have the 911.  Unfortunately, I haven't driven it since Nov. 2016 and I sorely

Re: [MBZ] Here is something you don’t see everyday

2017-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yes, with velour interior and rear sun shade Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 10, 2017, at 7:40 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > Is this,a potential rodbender? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > >> On Dec 10, 2017 8:36 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" >>

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On December 10, 2017 at 7:31 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > Seems like MB would have required premium for a reason. > > I thought the reason was that it hurt the catalyst to retard the timing that much. About 10kmi after I started running my

Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

2017-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On December 10, 2017 at 7:46 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > I may graduate to different grips and a raised mainspring housing in the > future. I like the looks of checkered cocobolo with double diamonds around the grip screws. As for the MSH, in the

Re: [MBZ] E320 winter beater?

2017-12-10 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > Will your first line of attack on the transmission issue be the conductor > plate? _First_ think to look into is coolant/fluid cross-contamination. No sense even buying a conductor plate etc. if the guts are ruined by glycol, due to a failing radiator. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] E320 winter beater?

2017-12-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Will your first line of attack on the transmission issue be the conductor plate? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On December 10, 2017 4:55:25 PM EST, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >Well, I bought it. $750, and the tranny is definitely non-functional.

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
DAIMLER CHRYSLER bowties and bean counters. (heavy on the the Chrysler) Those cars are gussied up dodges with better safety features and lots of electronics toys. Larry Turner via Mercedes December 10, 2017 at 10:42 AM Thanks Gang, A couple more

Re: [MBZ] E320 winter beater?

2017-12-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Will your first line of attack on the transmission issue be the conductor plate? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On December 10, 2017 4:55:25 PM EST, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >Well, I bought it. $750, and the tranny is definitely non-functional.

Re: [MBZ] Here is something you don’t see everyday

2017-12-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It does look nice, if the rods aren't bending . . . On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 1991 Mercedes 350SDL Turbo Diesel > > https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes- > 350sdl-turbo/6420105471.html > > > Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] Here is something you don’t see everyday

2017-12-10 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Is this,a potential rodbender? Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Dec 10, 2017 8:36 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 1991 Mercedes 350SDL Turbo Diesel > > https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes- > 350sdl-turbo/6420105471.html > > > Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

2017-12-10 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Yes, lower recoil than metal frame of the same weight, because the polymer seems to absorb some of the recoil. Of course you are correct that more weight reduces felt recoil. The reliability is not per se the result of using polymer, but overall modern engineering and construction. Greg

[MBZ] Here is something you don’t see everyday

2017-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
1991 Mercedes 350SDL Turbo Diesel https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes-350sdl-turbo/6420105471.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] This seems like a really nice kept 140

2017-12-10 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
15 mpg self destructing wire harness prastic radiator neck failure vac pump failure other than those known issues, it is a great car. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D -

[MBZ] This seems like a really nice kept 140

2017-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
1992 Mercedes-Benz 300SE https://santafe.craigslist.org/cto/d/1992-mercedes-benz-300se/6420065273.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
As I mentioned earlier in the thread, no, nothing of significance. And I keep very detailed records on my cars, so I would know it. Definitely less than a mile per gallon, maybe half a mile if that. -D > On Dec 10, 2017, at 7:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Interesting

2017-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, I’m going to let this one sit for a bit. He’s advertised it before, so I suspect he’s starting to get motivated to move it. If the engine could be barred over I might consider it after giving it a once-over. -D > On Dec 10, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Any mileage drop? On 12/10/2017 6:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Agreed. However, I’ve been watching this experiment very, very closely, and for the life of me I can't find anything detrimental about it so far. -D On Dec 10, 2017, at 7:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

2017-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Don, If you’re ever down this way we’ll go to the range and let you run a bunch of rounds through mine. That invitation is extended to anyone, for that matter. You’ll have to be certified by my RSO first, however. -D > On Dec 10, 2017, at 7:44 PM, OK Don via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Email threading

2017-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’m seeing weird stuff with mine as well. Regular POP mail, not GMail. -D > On Dec 10, 2017, at 7:46 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > I'm now seeing all of my posts and some of Curt's twice - over the last 3 > days. Never happened before . . . > > On Thu, Dec 7,

Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

2017-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It’s the first “real” pistol I’ve owned, and I really like it. I can certainly understand that it would not be the ideal service firearm, for sure. I know a guy who CCs a 1911, and I can’t imagine what it’s like to be lugging that thing around all day long inside (or outside) my belt. This

Re: [MBZ] Email threading

2017-12-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I'm now seeing all of my posts and some of Curt's twice - over the last 3 days. Never happened before . . . On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Go into your Gmail settings and make sure conversation mode is ON. > > On Thu, Dec 7, 2017

Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

2017-12-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Wait, the polymer has higher reliability and lower recoil??? I'd expect more wear and lower mass = more recoil. I've never held a polymer gun, much less fired one, though I did love the 1911 that I got to fire years ago. On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Most modern car engines have "knock" sensors that listen for detonation, and retard the timing to stop it. Premium fuel allows you to run it a full power at the high compression ratios they now build without detonating. When you run regular in it, the timing has to be retarded to prevent burning

Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

2017-12-10 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
I agree that the M1911 is a beautiful bit of engineering and a rugged beast. (I sure should have bought that Singer M1911 that a buddy tried to sell me for $100 back in the day.) Wonderful to take to the range for a bit of fun. But carrying it on your hip all day every day will make you love

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Agreed. However, I’ve been watching this experiment very, very closely, and for the life of me I can't find anything detrimental about it so far. -D > On Dec 10, 2017, at 7:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Seems like MB would have required premium

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Seems like MB would have required premium for a reason. On 12/10/2017 6:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: The 2002 E320 has been running on regular unleaded for at least three months. Minor drop in economy, otherwise no noticeable effects according to the driver. Todd (Knutson) says

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Larry sez: >‎I might look for >Camry/Avalon/Maxima/Accord and be >done with it...   After driving German iron for how many years? You will not be pleased with appliance like feel of a Japanese car. Go with a W210, the consensus seems to be they are fine cars. 2001 or 2002 with low miles, and

Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

2017-12-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
OK, scrap the FMJ and just use softpoints. Remember there will be 14 to 21" of sand between the sheets of plywood . . . On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On December 10, 2017 at 5:43 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < >

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The 2002 E320 has been running on regular unleaded for at least three months. Minor drop in economy, otherwise no noticeable effects according to the driver. Todd (Knutson) says he’s been running his fleet of 4-5 W210s for several years on regular unleaded without issues. I have to believe if

Re: [MBZ] RIP My 91 300D

2017-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On December 10, 2017 at 5:23 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > How is that possible? One knee X3? His body keeps rejecting the glue that holds metal to bone IIRC. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

2017-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On December 10, 2017 at 5:43 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Back the "trap" with about 100 cubic yards of sand and you'll have something. > FMJ wants to go and keep going... I'm with Curt. I've got .177 air rifles that will punch a nice clean hole

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
You can always buy my 2016 Chevy. Just had the oil changed at the dealer with the GM synthetic stuff, so it's maintenance free for the next 7000 miles. Direct injection, so it's kind of like a CDI with spark plugs. IIRC it's rated 31 city, 42 hwy. If it's over 50 degrees out, gets about 50mpg

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Lol, well a 642 will be anything but easy to diagnose. A very complicated engine. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 10, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Thanks for the advice, Dan, > > I understand. Also you read my health situation correctly.

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
How long have these folks been running it on regular? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 10, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Youngest son has decided, with my blessing, to run regular unleaded in his > W210. He’s on a pretty tight budget so it makes a

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Yep,  still have the 911.  Unfortunately, I haven't driven it since Nov. 2016 and I sorely miss it.  My wife feels like I won't come back if I drive it.  I have fallen asleep at the wheel once when she was a passenger and awakened me before we hit anything. I am sentimentally attached to it,

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
The w210 is the last of the idea that parts should be sourced locally and were built by the same folks that put the w124 and w140 together. By the time the w220 rolled around, the bean counters had decided to go lowest cost. Cutting corners resulted in crap cars. W220 uses chinese parts, not

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks for the advice, Dan,     I understand.  Also you read my health situation correctly. No DIY for me if I can help it.  I did enjoy doing a couple of minor things with my wife helping me.  But it will be better if our next vehicle doesn't need any work.     I think my wife would

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It does require premium. You can get by with regular every now and then but if you run it on regular all the time it will start running like crap after a while. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 10, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dan sez: > >>

Re: [MBZ] Rivnut Tool, was license plate bracket nut

2017-12-10 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
I was wondering if brass or bronze washers would reduce the friction much better than steel-on-steel, especially with some nice lube. I could cut some from stock on hand on the lathe pretty quick, and buy nothing at all. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Rivnut Tool, was license plate bracket nut

2017-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Nice. In his comments he says he eliminated the thrust bearing as it kept failing. Says the washers do just fine. -D > On Dec 10, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have a need for an 8 mm rivnut to repair a high-end "workmate" type device

Re: [MBZ] Rivnut Tool, was license plate bracket nut

2017-12-10 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
I have a need for an 8 mm rivnut to repair a high-end "workmate" type device and stumbled upon this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwSzoDyjWA8 Surprisingly, the little thrust bearing costs less than $5 from Mr. Bezos. That's the only piece I need to purchase. I doubt any commercial tool

Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

2017-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Back the "trap" with about 100 cubic yards of sand and you'll have something. FMJ wants to go and keep going... -Curt On Sunday, December 10, 2017, 5:28:57 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I want to have more fun with guns here as well. I need (want) a

Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

2017-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sorry. Para Ordnance 1911 Expert Stainless .45 ACP. My Walther PPQ is a 9mm. Seems pretty tame compared to the 1911 .45 ACP. Amazing to me that it’s such a difference. I love shooting the 1911. It seems so much more of a firearm than the polymer framed pistols. A “Man’s Pistol”, if you

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Youngest son has decided, with my blessing, to run regular unleaded in his W210. He’s on a pretty tight budget so it makes a difference for him. While it’s strictly anecdotal, a number of W210 owners whose opinions I trust say they’ve been running regular unleaded without issue and with

Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

2017-12-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I want to have more fun with guns here as well. I need (want) a backstop for a .30-06. I'm thinking of building a trap consisting of several (5 to 7) sheets of 3/4" plywood, separated by 2X4's on the long edge, with the space between the sheets filled with sand. Any thoughts on whether this would

Re: [MBZ] Craigs List Finds

2017-12-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
"reverse does not work fully" ?? On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 11:57 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I would get either #1 or #4. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > > On December 9, 2017 8:15:53 PM EST, Robert Massmann via Mercedes < >

Re: [MBZ] RIP My 91 300D

2017-12-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
How is that possible? One knee X3? On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Correct. It's where the rear suspension attaches to the body. The shop > said they could separate the body from the suspension using a pry bar - it > was completely

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
HA! I understand that too well. I kept fooling with 240Ds long after I should have moved on... -Curt On Sunday, December 10, 2017, 5:07:52 PM EST, OK Don wrote: Now, now - we're talking buying old used Mercedes here - rational decision making is not necessarily a

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Larry, do you still own/drive a 911? I understand the lower miles - we are both retired - the 2013 F150 has 8000 miles, and the year old Subaru has 3500 miles now! Ok course, what would be highway miles are put on the Cessna instead:-) On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Now, now - we're talking buying old used Mercedes here - rational decision making is not necessarily a part of the process. A Diesel can be a purely "I love the technology of compression ignition" - not "I want great fuel economy and long engine life". If he want's a Diesel car, he should get one.

Re: [MBZ] E320 winter beater?

2017-12-10 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Well, I bought it. $750, and the tranny is definitely non-functional. Let's hope that a 2001 E320 W210 is worth having, and worth messing with. There are a few pictures at: http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/E320.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Dan sez: >averages around 22 mpg on regular >unleaded It doesn't require premium...?  I'm suddenly becoming more interested in owning one... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

2017-12-10 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Dan sez: >‎Working on getting 250 rounds through >my new 1911 9mm, or. 45 ACP?  Brand of pistol...? Kimber? Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

2017-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Went to the range today as it was a wonderful day for it. Mid to low 50s, clear blue sky, no wind, etc. Working on getting 250 rounds through my new 1911, 50 rounds at a time. I’m up to 200 rounds after today’s visit. Felt sorry for my PPQ as I haven’t had it out in a while, so I took it

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The W220 is a lot more electronic, I think. It’s clearly not designed or engineered as well as the W210, in my opinion, nor is it as DIY friendly as the W210. Again, these are only my opinions based on a fairly small sample. I personally don’t care for the W220 body style, either. The W220

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Given your love for the 210, and having owned a 220, since they are basically the same vintage what is your thought on why the 210 is good and the 220 is a turd? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 10, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Larry, > > I

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
We probably don't need two diesels, Angie's commute is only 10 miles one way, her car is definitely under-utilized but it was a good deal... -Curt On Sunday, December 10, 2017, 3:26:02 PM EST, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: Thanks Curt, Good point.  Now

Re: [MBZ] Interesting

2017-12-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
We're with you all the way, eating popcorn while you do the heavy lifting. On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > BAT flip. > > -D > > > > On Dec 9, 2017, at 11:01 AM, Karl Wittnebel > wrote: > > > > It will be fine but

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Larry, I struggled with similar decision recently when I wanted to simplify my car situation. When I crunched the numbers trying to stick with a diesel, even a W210 or later, didn’t work out financially - that is, it wasn’t any cheaper, and given the miles per year I expect to drive, there

Re: [MBZ] What's a 110 coupe worth?

2017-12-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Won't chase the bidding on this. On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I think Andrew should buy it. It will look good driving around the > swamp. 250SE is a nice engine. > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >>

Re: [MBZ] Sneaux in South La.

2017-12-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
In LA? On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > We ended up with 4~5". Low this morning on my wx station was 32° high was > 35°. > Forecast for tonight is a low of 28°. > Burrr!!! > > Russ (I've had enough of this

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks Curt, Good point.  Now that we are both "retired" the miles driven have fallen significantly.   And like you said, distances are much shorter Larry On 12/10/2017 2:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Larry for the amount you drive a gasser probably makes more sense than a

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks Russ!  Every bit of info help.. Larry On 12/10/2017 2:57 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes wrote: Yep that's where it's located. I can't remember how long my buddy, the MB tech, told me it takes him to do the job. BUT i know it's not a 30 min. job. When I took my '08 for the initial

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks!  ;-) Really appreciate that info... Larry On 12/10/2017 1:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: There is no reason to be scared of a 642. The oil cooler leak is not a risk of fire. It can be lived with if it does it. You would just have to add oil to the car about once a

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes
Yep that's where it's located. I can't remember how long my buddy, the MB tech, told me it takes him to do the job. BUT i know it's not a 30 min. job. When I took my '08 for the initial service that was one of the things he checked. I don't know if the PO had it done. Russ On Sun,12/10/17

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Larry for the amount you drive a gasser probably makes more sense than a diesel, it's hard on a diesel not being driven hard regularly. Don't be afraid of a gasser, Dwight has one and likes it. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Larry Turner via

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Larry for the amount you drive a gasser probably makes more sense than a diesel, it's hard on a diesel not being driven hard regularly. Don't be afraid of a gasser, Dwight has one and likes it. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Larry Turner via

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Amazon slow for everybody?

2017-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Weird, any time stuff doesn't get delivered to me they make it right double quick... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Last Feb or so, on the recommendation of list members, I ordered 4 jugs of

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Amazon slow for everybody?

2017-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Weird, any time stuff doesn't get delivered to me they make it right double quick... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Last Feb or so, on the recommendation of list members, I ordered 4 jugs of

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Amazon slow for everybody?

2017-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
It's December after all, you kinda gotta expect they'll be slower than July but those times are bad... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: About a month ago, I ordered a bunch of stuff from Amazon.

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
also the gasser cars did not have the oil cooler problem. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 10, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Thanks! > > Since it caused a Fire Risk wouldn't it be eligible for a Federal > Recall? Isn't that what recalls

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
There is no reason to be scared of a 642. The oil cooler leak is not a risk of fire. It can be lived with if it does it. You would just have to add oil to the car about once a month and it will leave oil stains on the driveway. Ours leaks and I have not fixed it yet. I will probably do it in

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks!     Since it caused a Fire Risk wouldn't it be eligible  for a Federal Recall? Isn't that what recalls are for?  (BTW, I'm not giving you a hard time, just trying to understand.)     Hmm - with this added (and much appreciated) information we may have to consider another car.  I

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On December 10, 2017 at 11:42 AM Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Thanks Gang, > > A couple more questions please, Is it a problem that affects all > 3.0L V6 Turbo's of that vintage? If so I would hope it would create a > Recall (he said hopefully)

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The oil cooler thing seems to happen at around 175-200@k. A 99 would be a w210 car with the 606 in it. Much easier to work on. You could look for a 05-06 with the older straight 6. It would not have the oil cooler problem and is much easier to work on. The 642 v6 is a fine motor aside from the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Amazon slow for everybody?

2017-12-10 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
BTW,  There was a fire at the local Amazon Distribution Center in Chesterfield Va early Saturday.  Caused a lot of excitement for a few hours, it probably upset their operations as well... LarryT On 12/10/2017 9:06 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On December 9, 2017 at 9:15 PM Curley

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks Gang,     A couple more questions please, Is it a problem that affects all 3.0L V6 Turbo's of that vintage?  If so I would hope it would create a Recall (he said hopefully) ;-)     Also - we looked at a 99 300D TD which also has a 3.0L V6 Turbo although the 99 was a lot quicker.  The

Re: [MBZ] W163 wheel bearings

2017-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On December 9, 2017 at 8:59 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > You could get a used carrier/hub from car-part.com, put it on, and then > change the other when the weather moderates about july or august. I might have to. The ML500 fender donor (boy was I

Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Amazon slow for everybody?

2017-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On December 9, 2017 at 9:15 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: >About the same time, I ordered some other stuff that was never > delivered. no refunds. Jeffturd sez "tough" I bought from scam sellers twice last winter. Both times, I had to 'contact the

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
PS it’s about a $2-2.5k job to have it done at a shop. It’s probably a 17 hour job Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:13 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > When are they supposed to be done? I looked at the engine but it's > covered with plastic

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
No it’s down under the intake in the vee. Everything on top of the motor has to come off including the turbo. It’s a huge huge huge swine of a job from what I hear. One I need to do on the wife’s R320. It’s leaking oil pretty bad. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2017, at 9:13 PM, Larry Turner

Re: [MBZ] 2009 MB E320 Blue TEC

2017-12-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I think it's much worse. I believe the oil cooler is buried in the engine block Vee, so there's a lot of stuff in top that needs to be removed. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On December 9, 2017 10:13:15 PM EST, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: >    When