Re: [MBZ] Seems like a good deal on this Koehler

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“Kohler”, not “Koehler”.

4kW will not run your house, not even close, unless you just want a few lights 
and maybe a TV.

-D

> On May 16, 2021, at 9:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/841449590103549/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

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As someone involved in the security side of things, I am aware of this 
incident, which was due to a ransomeware attack. These exploit the ignorance of 
humans to be successful, which is the weakest part of the whole system. If we 
relied solely on hardware and software solutions for security we would be far 
better off. When the human element is factored in, all bets are off.

You can’t imagine the stupid, idiotic stuff people do or get coerced to do. I 
see this stuff all the time, and it never ceases to amaze me.

If I get the right person to respond to my efforts, I’m in and ready to wreak 
havoc.

In a case like this, the best thing to do is completely shut down and start 
methodically bringing things up with trusted/clean hardware and images. It 
takes time, but I assume this is what the transmission line folks are doing.

-D

> On May 9, 2021, at 8:20 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I'm seeing that industries across the board have built themselves a
> particular vulnerability by running their entire operations via computers.
> The number and scope of such attacks have increased, yet, the weakness of
> your entire operation, delivery of product, and profit is all tied to a
> computer system that is vulnerable to attack.
> To my way of thinking, this has evolved into utterly stupid, and it is now
> every industry, not just one.
> 
> Someone, somewhere, can remotely turn off your comfortable life, and stop
> the supply of goods, or services.
> But... hey... nothing to worry about because everyone is good... right?
> 
> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:10 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>>> On 2021-05-08 11:16, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Is probably going up.
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://dnyuz.com/2021/05/08/cyberattack-forces-a-shutdown-of-a-top-u-s-pipeline-operator/
>> 
>> To quote a guy who owns an oil company:
>> 
>> Depends on how fast they can get it restored.
>> 
>> 
>> Last time it was down, it was down for 16 days due to a leak caused by a
>> contractor working on it.
>> 
>> 
>> If it’s for a few hours / days. Not a big deal.
>> 
>> 
>> If it’s for 5-7 days, Time to worry a bit, especially if you’re AO is
>> only supplied by the colonial.
>> 
>> 
>> Looking at you GA / SC / NC / TN / VA.
>> 
>> 
>> But I really don’t see it being a huge deal.  Worse case 2-3 days and
>> they should be back up and running. If not faster.
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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

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Clay,

If they’re not set on ND the former Amish farm I posted in the original post 
might be of interest. I think it was 100 acres with 60 farmable. Big Amish 
house and related buildings that need some work and most likely electricity run 
in them. Outside of Wausau, WI, which is about as temperate as ND, probably 
better. Under $400k, which seems like a good deal.

Figure you could lease the farmland to start.

-D

> On Apr 29, 2021, at 12:42 AM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I suspect they will need to set up a condominium agreement.  Not my trouble 
> to take on.  Grown group of men, let them figure it out, is my view.  SWMBA 
> is a helicopter mom, so will most likely make it her affair to meddle in.  
> Foo foo drinks with paper parasols on a beach is my end goal.  Keep me from 
> having to use the car in garage for warmth when the massive quake and tsunami 
> strike GWN, taking out all civilized remnants.
> 
> Clay
> 
> 
> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2021, at 9:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Clay via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> Four or five investors, as long as they remain on good terms, could pencil 
>>> out.
>> 
>> I'd highly recommend working with an attorney to very clearly define
>> what happens if/when any of them "want out" of the deal.
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Question For Max or Floyd

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Florida allows plate transfers, so unless an LEO had some kind of “sixth sense” 
that allowed them to know what was going on with the car you removed the plate 
from they would have no way to determine your claim to transfer wasn’t legit.

Rick, did you contact my shipping guy, Mike? I ask because he called and left 
me a voice mail for “Rick”.

-D

> On Feb 27, 2021, at 10:50 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Oklahoma just started that this year I think - we got a letter telling us
> to keep the plate on our car if we sold it, and use it for the next car.
> Must be cheaper somehow.
> 
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 9:04 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> In MA you're allowed to move your plate to a vehicle you just bought, I
>> think you have 7 days to get to the DMV and move the plate before "big
>> trouble" ensues. Every pickup truck we've bought we just moved the plate
>> from the trade in to the new one, worked it out with the DMV in a day or
>> three.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
> 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Question For Max or Floyd

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Max or right, most states will sell you a temporary plate for a token sum. 
However, that means having to make a trip to the DMV, which may be difficult 
for a number of reasons.

What I usually do is take a plate off one of my existing vehicles and 
registration that won’t need to be driven in my absence and use that. If I 
would get stopped I have the plate I’m going to transfer, the registration and 
insurance card.

-D

> On Feb 27, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Don't know, I'll take a look on the state website and see what they've got.
> 
> I've bought several cars from out of state and driven them back with no
> plates.  Never got stopped, so don't know what trouble comes with that.
> 
> I think Dan recommends you bring your own plate and mount that for the
> temporary drive home, avoids suspicion.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 1:08 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Does the South Carolina DMV have temporary plates available to drive a car
>> purchased in SC to an out of state buyer?
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> Who is tired of driving rusty cars
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Re: [MBZ] Initial thoughts of 240D was Re: Instrument cluster Fuse?

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I have a little chart of the valve arrangement for the OM617 with the order to 
adjust them in that prints on a 3x5 index card. Print it out, Mark them off as 
you do each, throw paper away.

I can dig a copy out for anyone who wants it, send me a PM.

-D

> On Jan 25, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I got wrenches from a pawn shop and put the torch to them and bent them. 
> Makes the job easier. 
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2021, at 1:45 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The special bent wrenches are a bit faster but
>> regular wrenches will work
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Re: [MBZ] W124 603 Post Fuel Filter Change

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603s are a lot tougher, believe me.

-D

> On Jan 2, 2021, at 11:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> When I changed the filter in my SD, I did it with the engine warm.
> It immediately restarted with the new/empty filter and the idle knob cranked 
> all the way up.
> When it stumbled, I gave it more throttle, and it didn't die.
> Then it cleared up and ran evenly on all five cylinders again.
> 
> I don't know if that's at all hard on the fuel system, but it was easy on the 
> mechanic.
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Re: [MBZ] A little patina but otherwise doesn't look too bad 2007 GL450 Mercedes - $5, 200

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Craigslist, like other online places, don’t like VPNs, so they block the known 
exit nodes for the services. It’s a minor whack a mole thing, but they do it 
anyway.

We ban employees from using private VPNs for work, for example, because it sets 
off alarms when someone logs in from Budapest and an hour later shows up in 
Sydney.

-D

> On Jan 2, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2021-01-02 09:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> Has a tow package, that's a plus although I might like a 500 a little
>> better for towing
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/walterboro-2007-gl-450-mercedes/7255513251.html
> 
> I just got a surprise, courtesy of CL and NordVPN:
> This IP has been automatically blocked. If you have questions, please email: 
> blocks-b1608271253917...@craigslist.org
> 
> And I tried to join a shooting forum yesterday, got an email today saying my 
> membership was rejected because I was connected to a VPN when I tried to join.
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 300CD

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Leather and zebrano. Does have the now very rare cassette holder for the center 
console.

-D

> On Jan 2, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What about the interior?  If it has leather and a burlwood dash then it's
> worth every penny
> 
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 9:24 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> 
>> That looks really nice
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2021, at 8:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not a bad deal for the money considering the condition and miles.
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/d/san-mateo-1980-mercedes-300cd-146k-miles/7254345965.html
>> <
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/d/san-mateo-1980-mercedes-300cd-146k-miles/7254345965.html
>>> 
>>> 
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[MBZ] Get Them Before They’re Gone

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https://www.blipshift.com/products/unicorn-iv

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Going home today

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Good news - that you’re going home.

Any idea of how these occurred or what might have caused them?

-D

> On Nov 15, 2020, at 1:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I should be released from the hospital today. Dr showed me my CT and the 
> clots were very severe. Said if I had waited another hour before coming in I 
> probably would have dropped dead. 
> 
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[MBZ] My Next BaT Purchase

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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1943-sherman-m4a1/

Not sure the driveway can handle the weight, though.

Hmm.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

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Then how do you get apps on an iPhone? No Apple account, no App Store, right?

-D

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2020-11-06 16:54, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Dude,
>> It’s called “iCloud”. Set up an account for free with 5GB of storage
>> and let it host your contacts. It will sync everything across any and
>> all of your iCloud authenticated devices.
> 
> And if I don't want iCloud?
> I don't even have an Apple account, nor do I want one.
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300e 48K miles

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That’s in my neighborhood (Greenwood). Going to be there later this week. That 
would make a great BaT flip.

-D

> On Nov 1, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
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> 
> "I have a very clean Mercedes with an uncommon color combination. It has
> 48k original miles. It's had a recent tune up, AC serviced, fuel tank
> and a new battery with good tires. This car is clean and needs
> nothing. Never smoked in. Always garaged. Still smells new. "
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

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PO of my house put one of those in on the main garage door, so I got it by 
default when I bought the house.

The notifications are a little annoying, but the ability to open and close with 
the app can be convenient when I’m in a car that doesn’t have a remote.

Mine is a belt drive, and the quietest garage door and opener I’ve ever had.

-D

> On Oct 18, 2020, at 11:16 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My landlord’s guy just installed a new garage door opener in the joint. It 
> has Wifi. I  valiantly fought the urge to download the app that allows me to 
> open and close the door and know the status of the door from anywhere on 
> earth. I lasted two days and then I did it mainly to mess with my grown 
> children. 
> Please don’t tell them. This has been fun. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> New appliances are toys not tools.  I have no need to interface with my 
>> washer or fridge over wifi. EVER.  Except, now I do, if I want to access the 
>> more arcane and magical permutations of cleaning or food storage.  I prefer 
>> analog with the brain engagement over expecting some programmer who probably 
>> does not wash themselves let alone clothing, to kludge software.
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
>> about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout 
>> of self-recrimination and wetness.”
>> 
>> B. Johnson
>> 01/09/2020
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's hard to draw broad conclusions from anecdotes. My LG front-loader
>>> lasted 13 years with one minor failure (drain pump, which was easy to
>>> replace thanks to good design) prior to its final fatal failure. It was
>>> serving a family of 5 so it got a lot of use during that time.
>>> 
>>> Samsung and LG are both Korean, so I would expect they have similar
>>> approaches to design and quality control.
>>> 
>>> ALL modern appliances have gone overboard in terms of adding gizmos,
>>> touch screens, WiFi, remote control from your phone, etc. I actively
>>> avoid models with those features, just adds cost and is one more thing
>>> that can break.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
>>> 
 The LG dishwasher we purchased 10 years ago had to be written off after two
 major repairs in the first 2 years costing over $600.  The Bosch
 replacement performed much better, although we inadvertently bought a
 junior sized (not a Tall Tub) model..
 
 OTOH, my LG Android phone is beyond awesome.
 
 On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 9:04 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes <
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> I avoid any LG product ever since I had purchased a Kenmore Elite
> frig that was made for them by LG. Interior latches broke because the
> springs were to stiff. Roller wheels shafts broke from their
> mountings. The last straw was when the interior light didn't shut off
> when the door was closed, got so hot that the plastic bezel and lamp
> mounted deformed and melted. Oh and they had to send me money every
> year because them fibbed about its energy usage.
> 
> I have replaced it with a Samsung which hopefully, is be better engineered
> than the LG, but only time will tell.
> 
> Bob Massmann
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Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight

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Coworker at Kohler had one of these that he restored. I got to fly in it a 
couple of times. Definitely an experience everyone should have at least once.

-D

> On Sep 18, 2020, at 11:58 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 3 days remaining on the BAT sale... and $65,000 is cheap in today's market,
> presuming it has good logs and engine time remaining, etc etc..
> 
> If you can fly this airplane your next issue airplane is a P51 single seat
> fighter, no instructor... get in, fire it up, and learn how to fight with
> it...
> A.. the days when men were men...
> 
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 7:19 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Interesting, I wonder how much it will bring on BAT vs Barnstormers, etc.
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 5:36 PM G Mann via Mercedes >> 
>> wrote:
>> 
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>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb car at a Kleb price

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Probably high 60s here in the afternoon with a breeze. Sky was so clear that 
within a few minutes I could feel I was going to get burned on my face if I 
didn’t turn occasionally. No filter here like there is in FL. Nippy last night 
in the high 40s, but nothing a light jacket didn’t cure.

Got an outdoor wedding today outside of Nashville (IN) so it should be equally 
as nice.

-D

> On Sep 18, 2020, at 11:22 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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> 
> A friend from Florida called me this afternoon to update the Nav in his 
> Nissan.
> It was in the upper 50s and sunny this afternoon. I showed up in gym shorts 
> and T-shirt, he came out with jeans and a coat on. Insisted on firing up the 
> car and turning on the heat because I must be freezing.
> Mitch.
> 
> 
>> On 2020-09-18 19:57, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> It’s been awesome. Just came in and got my jacket.
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Re: [MBZ] Stupid neighbors

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Okie lightning?

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> On Sep 7, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It would be a shame if lightning hit that propane tank, being so close to 
> your rent house and all...  Could start a big fire and your empty house might 
> burn down.. .  Terrible to contemplate...
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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>> On Sep 6, 2020, at 11:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So at Okie Acres 1 aka rental house, a dude from Shitcago just built a 
>> house on the lot next door. I think I already talked about how he built his 
>> privacy fence at least 1-2 feet on my side. Since I have been over there all 
>> the time I observed he had an in ground pool and the whole area is built up 
>> probably a good 3-5 feet higher than our side. In other words I hate to see 
>> what happens when we get a lot of rain. Just on our side of the property 
>> line is a drainage swell that drains water toward the road from the back 
>> side of the peppery that comes down the hill from his side. It’s uphill that 
>> direction anyway before he built up his back yard. His fence is built right 
>> in the middle of this swell. Today I discovered he has a 500 gallon propane 
>> tank installed right up next to my fence. Per code it must be located at 
>> least 10 feet away from any building or property line. 
>> 
>> I think tomorrow, or next time I see the guy, I’m going to point this out as 
>> well as the fence issue and kindly give him the opportunity to take care of 
>> it. If he does not then I will go ahead and call code enforcement on his 
>> ass. 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

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Thanks for all the information, Mitch, appreciate it.

My install will be pretty straightforward. Interior unit high on side of 
interior block (garage) wall, condensor on the outside of same wall, probably 
8’-10’ below the level of the interior unit. Around here code requires a 
precast or composite pad of some sort, which I can buy from any number of 
suppliers. If I do this myself I’ll make every effort to meet or exceed code so 
that if I get busted inspection will go easy, as well as to give the impression 
the install was done professionally.

On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s slightly longer 
than what I need, does it matter if I just looped it to take up the slack 
rather than have to cut and flare?

-D

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> 
> 
> What I did to mount the outdoor unit in cold climate:
> 3 treated 2x4s.
> Handful of coated nails.
> 4 lag bolts.
> Exterior paint.
> 
> Cut two 2x4s in half. Paint the 4 pieces and bury them so that the tops
> are where you want the feet of the condenser unit.
> Cut the other 2x4 into four pieces, the long ones 4" longer than the
> condenser, the short ones 1" longer than the condenser is wide. Paint them
> and nail them together to make a box 1" bigger than the condenser.
> Nail the box to the four vertical 2x4s. I set the box so that the posts
> were 1/2" lower than the top of the box.
> Set the condenser in the box, and screw it to the tops of the posts with
> the lag bolts.
> 
> In Florida, I might make the verticals 2-3' long and bury them so that the
> condenser sits 6-12" above ground level. No need for snow clearance or
> putting posts below the frost line. Only worry is ripping the posts out of
> the ground in a hurricane.
> 
> I located it in front of the indoor wall unit, ran a CPVC gravity drain
> down the wall and out the side of the house, and affixed the drain pipe to
> the outdoor uprights with PVC pipe hangers. It looks slightly silly
> sticking out 6" past the outdoor unit, but that puts the condensate where
> it doesn't run down along the posts.
> At my house I had the condensate outlet dead center under the stand, which
> looked neater.
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Re: [MBZ] Worth messing with?

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$2500 is a good place to start if everything is there and it runs. If it hasn’t 
been started since 1987 that’s an issue.

-D

> On Apr 21, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> What is it worth?
> 
>> On 4/21/2020 6:47 PM, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Bummer that the paint is thrashed. Big bucks to sort that thing out. Fun 
>> project, though.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/539933373383391/
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Worth messing with?

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Bummer that the paint is thrashed. Big bucks to sort that thing out. Fun 
project, though.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Mr Pagoda wakes up!

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Pretty much, yes. It’s only really noticeable when you’re sitting still or when 
you first turn the key on to start.

It’s a stock Carter high pressure pump that was a little over $100 when I 
bought mine. The only hack involved was to block off the overflow line, I 
think. I’ve got pictures and some posts from another forum/list that explain 
how I did it if you want them, just let me know.

-D

> On Apr 5, 2020, at 10:10 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> Yes I think I remember you had pump issues. Out of curiosity, does the 
> aftermarket pump make the same humming sound but just louder?
> 
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>> On Apr 5, 2020, at 9:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> No such thing as an NOS one, only rebuilt, and not through any official 
>> channels, just third party rebuilders. Figure about $800-$1000 for a rebuilt 
>> one with yours as a core.
>> 
>> There is a $100 aftermarket pump that works just fine. I did one on my 
>> finnie and had no problems at all, other than it was a bit noisy compared to 
>> the original.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2020, at 9:47 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think they are like 2K now! I replaced that pump about 14 years ago and 
>>> paid $400 and change for it from Rusty. Times have changed!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 5, 2020, at 8:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Yeah, you don’t want to have to replace one of those fuel pumps, believe 
 me.
 
 Glad it’s running (more or less.)
 
 -D
 
 
> On Apr 5, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So my 71 280SL has been in storage for 3.5 years. I’ve been too busy to 
> drive it or even start it. As I’m preparing my garage for the 
> installation of doors, I need to make room for the installers so the car 
> has to be moved outside for a few days. 
> Battery reads 12.04 volts which is very surprising after sitting for so 
> long. I put it on the charger for an hour or so then attempt to start. 
> Cranks fine but does not turn over. I notice that the fuel pump is dead 
> silent. Not good. I then wack it a bunch of times both on the side and 
> bottom and it starts to make some noise but not a healthy one. I then try 
> to start car again. Seems like it wants to start but battery losing 
> steam. Back on the charger for an hour and then I try again. The fuel 
> pump sounds great now and the car starts on the first try. The engine 
> runs smoothly without stalling! Wow. Gotta love these cars! Only issue is 
> brake pedal goes to the floor. Can’t win every battle but at least I was 
> able to get Mr. Pagoda outside!
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Re: [MBZ] Online manual

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You need to be more specific, please.

Might want to search the archives, too.

-D

> On Apr 4, 2020, at 5:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: Cruise Ship v. Navy Ship

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Take it to Okie Talk if you can’t stay on topic please. You both know better.

ListMom/little hitler

> On Apr 4, 2020, at 9:31 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I call dibs on the "funds manager" title... ;
> 
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 6:21 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Good idea.   Cher and that ny broad with the big nose (babs or is it
>> boob? strysick) can go there with the money, and stay
>> 
>>> G Mann via Mercedes 
>>> April 4, 2020 at 8:11 PM
>>> It's OK... Venezuela has a big navy and lots of spare ships. It's
>>> communist
>>> leaders will just issue them another one...
>>> Let's start a go fund me and ask all Hollywood to "contribute their fair
>>> share" to replace the ship you know, like the Clinton Foundation.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hard top 190SL

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Early “California Coupe”?

-D

> On Mar 30, 2020, at 9:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Car was not shipped with a ragtop.  hmmm.  "Pebble Beach" concours resto, 
> mostly
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1960-mercedes-benz-190sl-15/
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Re: [MBZ] Break caliber

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How is that? They’ve been spamming the heck out of me lately, or so it seems.

-D

> On Mar 29, 2020, at 5:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This 560SEC has a dragging caliper. It’s a really nice day so I finally 
> decided to change it. I recall having bought one some time ago and never put 
> it on. Thought sure it was in the car. I have new hoses. Can’t find caliper 
> and pads.  I must be going soft. Aarrrggghh guess I need to order one. 
> 
> Which also reminds me I haven’t received any advance auto discount emails 
> lately. I wonder what’s up with that. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

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Nope. There’s one eBay seller who has some “reconditioned” battery packs, 
whatever that means. I asked for clarification but have yet to get a response.

I went ahead and bought a set of 10 cells that were highly rated off a solid 
(domestic) Amazon seller. Cost me a little under $30 for the set of 10. They 
have solder tabs as do the originals, so I’ll be deconstructing the old pack as 
a template to build the new one, shouldn’t be difficult.

All is well in Florida. Staying away from all the blue hairs, as they don’t 
seem to be taking any of this shelter in place stuff seriously.

-D

> On Mar 29, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Rick Hawkins Java Letterpress Cycles Photon 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey, dan,
> 
> Can’t you buy the battery pack you need on ebay or amazon?
> 
> I recently fixed a dyson and a roomba and battery packs were dirt cheap on 
> amazon
> 
> Also if you build packs, in less you have cells with solder tabs, the cells 
> are spot welded together ... places like batteries plus can often do that but 
> they aren’t usually cheap unless you are buddies with them
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-Split AC Units

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I had a nice side business years ago buying and selling electromechanical pins. 
I’ve often had a couple around the house for entertainment, but like cars, the 
darned younger people with more money than brains have driven the values up, 
even for the old EM machines, to the point where they’re often unaffordable. 
That’s caused a bunch of opportunists to come out of the woodwork to buy these 
things up at any price to clean up (“shop”) and resell to these people.

Go look on your local CL under “pinball” and see how many listings there are by 
people who will pay “top dollar” for your old pinball game.

This is a nice Williams single player “Klondike” machine:

https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1388=66466

Needs to be shopped and some minor electrical repairs. Most likely just a good 
cleaning. Single player games are not typically as desirable as multi player 
games for the obvious reason, so they often command less money. I’m getting 
this one for $450 and once shopped and working 100% it’s probably worth around 
$800-$1000, maybe more. I’ll disassemble the play field, relamp everything and 
install new rubbers. That will cost maybe $75-$100 in parts. Everything else is 
labor.

-D

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What in the heck do you need with a pinball machine?
> 
>> On 3/25/2020 9:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Just got a deal on a pinball machine I made a lowball offer on to a guy that 
>> only lives about four bocks away. Guess I’ll be picking that up tomorrow. 
>> Now if I can just get a deal on the mini-split I’ll have a cool garage to 
>> work on the pinball machine in…
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cash money talks.
>>> 
>>> --FT
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>>> 
 On Mar 25, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I lowered my offer to $350, stating that since it’s not working I have no 
 way of knowing if it’s functional, and the lines and compressor are no 
 longer precharged, either.
 
 Doubt that will garner any sympathy, but we’ll see. Worst thing is the guy 
 either counters or blows me off.
 
 We’ll see. I closed on the old house today, I feel lucky.
 
 -D
 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 9:12 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mitsubishi is probably the best
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> Did someone say Mitsubishi was a good brand of mini-split? I ask 
>> because someone on my local FB Marketplace group has a 9,000 BTU unit 
>> they took out of service after six months they’re looking for offers on.
>> 
>> It’s an MZ-GL09NA
>> 
>> https://hvacdirect.com/mitsubishi-mz-gl09na-9-000-btu-24-6-seer-ductless-mini-split-heat-pump.html
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> I’m thinking I should offend and offer $400. No guarantees since I can’t 
>> see it working.
>> 
>> ??
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Two Annoying Things That Have Nothing to Do With The World’s Current SHITshow

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As for your second issue, a lot of times I’ve found that the seller has sold 
the item and didn’t keep the confirmation email from CL that has the link to 
manage the listing.

If you don’t have a CL account, it’s a one shot thing. Lose or misplace the 
confirmation email and you can’t access the post to manage it.

-D

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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> 
> I have been going to discount tire for decades. Typically, when I get a new 
> to me vehicle, I’ll take it down there and they will rotate and balance for 
> free knowing that I have a solid history of buying tires from them over the 
> last two decades. 
> Today I took the 2014 Passat TDI down to them for its first rotate/balance. 
> The guy took the information and entered it  into his computer and then 
> promptly asked me if I wanted to pay $4 for one day to have the tires 
> balanced or $64 for the lifetime of the tires to have them balanced. He said 
> it’s something that they started at the beginning of the year for tires that 
> were not bought a discount. Annoying.
> Second annoying thing to me these days is people who will not answer their 
> email about a craigslist ad, especially when they don’t give you a phone 
> number to call. I had Kaleb give me a Carfax for a 99ML320 that looked 
> promising. The Carfax shows that it was well serviced over its life. I’ve 
> been trying to get a hold of the guy for 17 days with no luck. Annoying.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] S210 Spark Plugs

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Yeah, just make sure you buy the right quantity

-D

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 9:39 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I should change them then. And buy another 24 plugs for the SL...
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 9:34 AM, dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Plugs on the M112/3 are required about every 75k-100k. I have service 
>> records on this car, so I knew it was due, as well as having looked at one 
>> and seen that the electrode was pretty worn.
>> 
>> While I expected a difference, more in mileage than actual running, I was 
>> surprised at how much smoother the idle is since the change.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m wondering now if should change plugs on the $600E320.  About 240kmi.  
>>> It idles a bit rough. The PO seems to have kept up on maintenance items 
>>> though. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 5:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Did the plugs on the 1998 wagon yesterday. Piece of cake, took me under 
>>>> an hour total. I was thinking it was worse, probably because the last 
>>>> spark plug job I did was on the ML500 with the M113, which is very tight 
>>>> in spots.
>>>> 
>>>> Plenty of room to work without jacking the engine. I was going to do motor 
>>>> mounts at the same time but didn’t as I just didn’t want to take that much 
>>>> on.
>>>> 
>>>> Definitely needed. The car idles so smoothly it’s amazing.
>>>> 
>>>> Dummy me - I had bought a box of Bosch plugs (10) for the job, not paying 
>>>> attention to the quantity. Had to run out to FLAPS and buy two more plugs 
>>>> - luckily they had them in stock. Counter guy was puzzled. “Why you want 
>>>> only two plugs?”
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] S210 Spark Plugs

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Plugs on the M112/3 are required about every 75k-100k. I have service records 
on this car, so I knew it was due, as well as having looked at one and seen 
that the electrode was pretty worn.

While I expected a difference, more in mileage than actual running, I was 
surprised at how much smoother the idle is since the change.

-D

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m wondering now if should change plugs on the $600E320.  About 240kmi.  It 
> idles a bit rough. The PO seems to have kept up on maintenance items though. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 5:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Did the plugs on the 1998 wagon yesterday. Piece of cake, took me under an 
>> hour total. I was thinking it was worse, probably because the last spark 
>> plug job I did was on the ML500 with the M113, which is very tight in spots.
>> 
>> Plenty of room to work without jacking the engine. I was going to do motor 
>> mounts at the same time but didn’t as I just didn’t want to take that much 
>> on.
>> 
>> Definitely needed. The car idles so smoothly it’s amazing.
>> 
>> Dummy me - I had bought a box of Bosch plugs (10) for the job, not paying 
>> attention to the quantity. Had to run out to FLAPS and buy two more plugs - 
>> luckily they had them in stock. Counter guy was puzzled. “Why you want only 
>> two plugs?”
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Rescue Critters: was Ok y’all **it just got real

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Our Country animal shelter is transitioning to a no-kill shelter, and part of 
the process involving feral cats is capture, spay/neuter and release. They 
notch the cat’s ear when this is done so they can be identified.

It’s working pretty well. Their euthanasia numbers have gone down 
significantly. The worst part is people bringing in kittens that are not 
weaned. Those have to be fostered or they’re euthanized.

-D

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 8:18 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have you been able to catch them and get them spayed and neutered?  Around 
> here the animal groups will do that for free on feral cats then you can 
> release them again to do their business without multiplying. 
> 
> --FT
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>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 2:23 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> We live on an old tobacco farm in rural NC.  The 11 outdoor rescue cats are 
>> part of a group of 21 that were abandoned when some white-trash neighbors 
>> abandoned their USDA-financed house two plus years ago.  My other neighbor 
>> still has three of them and the rest disappeared, died, or got run over.  I 
>> never wanted so many but I have more compassion for critters than can't help 
>> themselves than for humans that won't.  
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From:  Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>> 
>>> Yikes. I like cats, but I only have one, and she’s 16 years old. A rescue 
>>> the wife
>>> picked up on the side of the road in a thunderstorm. Weighed .8 lbs. when 
>>> she
>>> was rescued, vet said she’d be unlikely to live more than a day or two.
>>> 
>>> 16 years later, she’s still here. Feisty yet lovable. Used to give the 
>>> other three
>>> purebred (Chartreux) cats we had pure hell as well as the wife’s former 
>>> Shitzu.
>>> Definitely a cat raised on the streets, outlived the others and probably has
>>> another good 3-6 years.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Coronavirus Vaccine

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I’ve heard that women seek your essence. Feeling a profound sense of loss?

Group Captain Lionel Mandrake

> On Mar 13, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's a way to poison our precious bodily fluids just like the commie 
> fluoridation of our water supplies!
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 3/13/20 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Who on the list is an antivaxxer?
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 12:29 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Gerry, some common sense there.
>>> 
>>> " There’s a virus that the CDC currently estimated has killed between
>>> 20,000 and 45,000 people in the United States -- influenza. But only half
>>> the country gets that vaccine.
>>> 
>>> There’s only 14 deaths [in the U.S., as of Friday afternoon] from COVID-19,
>>> but everybody would get a vaccine now.
>>> 
>>> The point being: We’re not very good at assessing risk."
>>> 
>>> I think we are up to 40 dead now from this Wuhan flu.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 12:24 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 
 
 Philly vaccine pioneer: We can’t rush a coronavirus vaccine | Q
 
 
 At a White House news conference Tuesday, Anthony Fauci, the head of the
 National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, told President
>>> Donald
 Trump a coronavirus vaccine would likely not be available within the next
 year or two. Trump responded: “I like the sound of a couple of months
 better.”
 
 But a vaccine is not going to be available in the next couple of months,
 and according to Dr. Paul Offit, that’s appropriate. Offit, director of
>>> the
 Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, is the
 co-developer of the rotavirus vaccine. It took roughly 26 years to
>>> perfect
 that protection against a disease that, according to the Centers for
 Disease Control and Prevention, was the leading cause for severe diarrhea
 in children before the vaccine’s introduction in 2006.
 
 Why is it unrealistic to expect a vaccine for coronavirus in a few
>>> months?
 Nobody’s ever seen this virus before. Therefore, if you’re interested in
 making a vaccine, you first had access to that virus only a couple months
 ago. That’s not long.
 
 [To make a vaccine] you first need to make a decision as to what approach
 you want to take. Then you have to do extensive animal model testing to
 make sure that the approach that you’ve taken is safe in animals, and
>>> that
 it induces an immune response which would likely be protective. Then you
 gradually do studies in people to make sure it’s safe, and then to make
 sure that it induces an immune response. That takes time, a lot of time,
 typically years. Then and only then, are you ready to put it into people
>>> to
 see whether or not it works in an outbreak situation.
 
 In 2018, after the World Health Organization declared an Ebola outbreak
>>> in
 the Democratic Republic of Congo, there was an experimental vaccine very
 quickly.
 
 I think people got fooled by Ebola. When the outbreak occurred in West
 Africa and we had a vaccine pretty much that rolled off shelf within
>>> weeks,
 people thought, Ha! That’s easy.
 
 But what they didn’t realize is people have been working on an Ebola
 vaccine for 20 years. They’ve done the animal model testing. They’ve done
 the testing to make sure that the vaccine was safe and was immunogenic.
 
 But that’s not true here. This is a new virus. So we’re starting from
 scratch.
 
 What is it about this virus that makes people confident that a vaccine
 will be available?
 
 I don’t know. You know, I’d say about 15% to 20% of the respiratory
 infections that we see in our hospital in the winter months are [types
>>> of]
 coronavirus. This is a virus that has been around for 50 years.
 
 But here are these three newer strains of coronavirus — MERS, SARS, and
 now this COVID-19. The first two viruses, SARS and MERS, have come and
>>> gone.
 I think this [COVID-19] virus likely will come back because it’s
 different. If you were infected with SARS or MERS viruses, you were sick.
 And it’s very easy to tell who was sick and who wasn’t. You could then
 quarantine those people — put a moat around them, if you will — so that
 they wouldn’t infect others. So those infections quickly died out. This
 virus is more like flu. It spreads in a similar manner to flu by
 respiratory droplet. It’s about as contagious as flu. It has the same set
 of symptoms as flu. And I think in the end, frankly, it’s going to have
>>> the
 same mortality rate as flu.
 
 There are certainly human studies showing that if you’re infected with a
 coronavirus — 

Re: [MBZ] Source for 124 front lower control arms?

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Dealership only, and they’re not that much more expensive. Better hurry, 
though, as some have recently become NLA.

-D

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Driving the $500 '94 wagon this morning, I realized that the front end is
> making too many clunks, I'm guessing that at 195k miles the front
> suspension is ripe for overhaul.  Front struts are shot, car floats like
> big GM iron from the 70s and 80s.
> 
> Are any of the aftermarket worth a look, or should I bite the bullet and
> get them from a dealership?
> -
> Max
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I wonder how this will pan out

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We used to have a “Rocketman” on the old lists. A very sage and knowledgeable 
contributor whose comments often ended up on the “Quotes” page.

I have often wondered what happened to him. I don’t believe anyone ever met him 
in person.

-D

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 1:40 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
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> 
> "Rocket Man" is the code name for the exalted leader of N. Korea... ie...
> he keeps sending up "test rockets" which can or will be used for delivery
> of his nuke warheads... and refuses to stop his nuke weapon program... thus
> "Rocket Man".
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:23 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> And don't forget Boris Johnson.  Who is rocket man?
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:19 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> He should have in person meetings with rocket man, putin, and the
>> ayatollah
>>> within the week.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:17 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Don't forget Eric and Donnie Jr.
 
 On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:06 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Trump should immediately request a meeting with peloski, RBG, and
>>> chuck-u
> schummer, in order to talk about succession.  Cruz should also be
>> there
 to
> advise.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> *BREAKING A Brazilian official who met President Trump and Vice
 President
>> Pence at Mar-a-Lago on Saturday has tested positive for
>> coronavirus.
> Fabio
>> Wajngarten, a spokesman for Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro,
>>> tested
>> positive for covid-19, Brazilian officials said. Wajngarten stood
>>> next
 to
>> Trump and Pence, a photograph taken in Florida shows. Trump said he
> “isn’t
>> concerned” about the development, according to a White House pool
> report*.
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>>> OK Don
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>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>> who
>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>>> for themselves."
>>> 
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>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

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Yeah, that’s one of the “smart” pumps. They can be opened and serviced. No 
electronics to speak of if they like the W140 and W210 versions, but some 
contacts that can be adjusted to control state change (pressure/vacuum) and 
high/low pressure/vacuum thresholds.

Lots of info on BW on these as I recall.

-D

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looks like this pump was common to all the 124 cars as well as others.
> 
> https://www.programainc.com/item_detail.aspx?idproduct=107=0=124%20800%2021%2048
> 
> I've got the pump from Wilton's sedan, should be able to swap that in and
> have an answer.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:09 AM dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Are the pumps on the late W124s a separate unit like PSE pumps on later
>> models, or the “dumb” kind like the “football” found in W126 models?
>> 
>> I ask because the “dumb” pumps don’t have any logic, just a pressure
>> actuated snap switch that reverses rotation, changing from vacuum to
>> pressure and vice-versa. If the pressure switch fails the pump is more or
>> less junk.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> ...the CLS control circuit, which ... is integral to the pump, is the
>> faulty component.
>>> 
>>> Yes, if the signal from the door lock is indeed correct, it is.  At this
>> point diving into the
>>> pump can't hurt.  My first suspicion would be bad solder joints, but
>> re-capping too while
>>> you're there couldn't hurt.  Meanwhile, try to scare up another pump in
>> case the operation
>>> is not successful.
>>> 
>>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

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Are the pumps on the late W124s a separate unit like PSE pumps on later models, 
or the “dumb” kind like the “football” found in W126 models?

I ask because the “dumb” pumps don’t have any logic, just a pressure actuated 
snap switch that reverses rotation, changing from vacuum to pressure and 
vice-versa. If the pressure switch fails the pump is more or less junk.

-D

On Mar 12, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> ...the CLS control circuit, which ... is integral to the pump, is the faulty 
>> component.
> 
> Yes, if the signal from the door lock is indeed correct, it is.  At this 
> point diving into the
> pump can't hurt.  My first suspicion would be bad solder joints, but 
> re-capping too while
> you're there couldn't hurt.  Meanwhile, try to scare up another pump in case 
> the operation
> is not successful.
> 
> -- Jim
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[MBZ] Gasoline in Diesel

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Buddy across the street has a late model diesel pickup truck, a Dodge, I 
believe. He thinks his kid filled it up with gasoline, but is not sure, and if 
so how much.

Is there any way he can test the fuel to see if it’s got gasoline in it, and/or 
the concentration?

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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Just certain parts. I’ll take the Sierras and most of northern CA (like 
Redding, Yreka, the northern coast) any time.

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
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> If possible, I would prefer never to step foot in Calif again. CA sucks.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:54 AM
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> Cc: Dan Penoff
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF
> 
> If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. 
> Free needles, just pick them up off the street.
> 
> Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering the 
> streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  https://thegrovesf.com/
>> In the mission district, near Chinatown. We stayed near there once, the food 
>> is good and the decor is cool.
>> In Chinatown just pick a place that looks cool, theres loads of good 
>> options. You might also try Haight\Ashbury, probably not after dark though, 
>> its pretty sketch.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Monday, March 9, 2020, 9:56:48 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but it’s 
>> a work trip. I’m
>> Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
>> fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so I 
>> tend to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[dan--- via Mercedes]

When it comes to an assortment of ethnic neighborhoods, I think Milwaukee wins 
hands down. You can stay in an area about 2-3 square miles and hit a good 5-7 
different ethnicities. Spread out more and get more. I can recall:

Greek
Polish
Peruvian
German
Slovak
Macedonian (sort of Greek)
Mexican
Moroccan
Indian
Thai

Probably more, those are the ones I can recall.

Dang, I just had Thai for lunch and I’m hungry now.

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I used to go to chinatown in Chit-cago.   That was fun.   Also went to the 
> Greek part and the sandrat part to pick up various specialty foods.We 
> were selling ramen noodles before they became mainstream.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> March 10, 2020 at 11:54 AM
>> If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. 
>> Free needles, just pick them up off the street.
>> 
>> Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering the 
>> streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Dying from Coronavirus

[dan--- via Mercedes]

I made the mistake of buying a whole pork shoulder/picnic at my local meat 
purveyor a while back to put in the smoker. What I didn’t realize was that it 
would take 24 hours to smoke!

Time well spent, however. Yum.

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is no commercial meat production in the state that I know of, some 
> small time stuff but none of the multi-thousand animal herds you see in the 
> mid-west. There is a cattle farm near our camp that I think runs over a 
> thousand head but there aren't many of those operations, we really don't have 
> the space.
> Boneless chicken breasts were like $0.98/lb but I've already got 10 or 15# in 
> the freezer so I'm not stocking up anymore.
> -Curt
> 
>On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 12:59:28 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Wow that is high for country style ribs.  Right now the store here has 
> pork shoulder for $.98/lb and we recently got what they call pork chops 
> for $.99/lb. These are what I call pork steaks with about 3 or 4 thin 
> cut pork chops on top to make it look nice.  I'm not sure what they cut 
> them out of; I'd guess maybe a whole shoulder, but the meat is tasty.   
> they run about 6-8 lb on a tray.
> But then you are not in pork country, so maybe that is normal up yonder.
> Chicken hind quarters $3.90 for a 10 lb bag.   Those and some hamburger 
> make up most of our meals.
> 
> Everything is normal here.  no panic like in the places that believe the 
> ministry of propaganda.
> 
> I gotta grab a coupla them shoulders and make more pulled pork for bbq.
> 
>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> March 10, 2020 at 11:37 AM
>> I happened to go to Wal-Mart yesterday, as usual I went within an hour 
>> of closing to avoid the bulk of the wal-martians.Anyway I found 
>> adequate supplies of soap although the shelf was a little sparse. I 
>> couldn't figure out where hand sanitizer would have been, I honestly 
>> didn't look too hard. Plenty of toilet paper for buying.
>> Stopped in at the grocery next door, seemed completely normal. Country 
>> style pork ribs for $2.09/lb...
>> No hysteria in north central MA/south central NH that I can see.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] ML500 saga continues

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Randy,

Here in the States you’re required to have a title issued by the state for any 
vehicles you own. On top of that you typically pay an annual registration fee, 
which can be based on value, age, or just a flat fee depending on the state. 
The registration fee covers your tags or license plate for that annual fee.

Not all states require titles to buy or sell a car. Some allow a bill of sale, 
most of which are based on the age of the vehicle, like if it’s 20 years old or 
older for example. There can be a title for these older vehicles, but it’s not 
required.

Florida, for example, requires titles for everything regardless of age. Georgia 
(I think) allows a bill of sale for older vehicles.

There is no consistency with any of this, as it’s all determined by the state, 
not federal, government.

-D

> On Mar 9, 2020, at 3:13 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 09/03/2020 12:10 PM, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>  I’m wondering how they avoid cars that have liens on them, that is, do they 
>> check the VIN with a source that would have information like this, such as 
>> the state where the transaction took place?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
> How does it all work in the USA? Do you have some sort of "title" to the 
> vehicle? I once bought a Chevy Suburban here in Manitoba and received the 
> Texas title from the owner even though I did not need it. Here, the vehicle 
> registration form is part of the package that includes the licence plate and 
> the insurance (since we have a government run monopoly insurance program). We 
> are able to sell things like utility trailers without much trouble. Most 
> people seem unable to produce documentation for things like utility trailers 
> and the authorities permit us to provide a bill of sale saying it is a 
> homemade trailer and no one asks many questions but a car of a truck requires 
> that the form on the back of the registration document be signed and provided 
> to the buyer along with the bill of sale. If you cannot find it, you have to 
> go to an authorized agent and pay to get a replacement registration document. 
> We had to do that when we were unable to find the papers for an old Toyota 
> 4Runner that we sold. There may be some means of getting proper paperwork for 
> a vehicle if you cannot find the last registered owner but it would no doubt 
> be difficult and expensive.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Who wants a real 5 speed 300D?

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BaT has a “two minute timer”, that is, anyone placing a bid in the last two 
minutes of the auction resets the timer until no one bids for two minutes. 
Pretty much eliminates sniping.

-D

> On Mar 9, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've owned several cars without AC so that doesn't bother me too much.
> 
> But looking more closely at the photos, it looks like the whole car had
> a cheap respray with little prep work. Cracked paint covered over and
> overspray on the trim. Are BAT auctions like eBay where all the action
> happens in the last 5 seconds? I'm guessing it will go well beyond my
> limit for a sight-unseen purchase.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> The lack of AC and the ugly repair done to the rear quarters with the black
>> should keep the price down a bit.
>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 1985 300D Euro sedan selling at no reserve.  Not getting a lot of
>>> interest.  Someone might be able to steal it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-300d-6/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-03-09
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Re: [MBZ] Covid/Tampa/NPR, Whatever

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Yeah, I could make a reference to something in order to draw parallels from 
another list but I won’t.

-D

> On Mar 9, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> U because we are all a bunch of kindergartens here. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 9, 2020, at 12:08 PM, dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Discussion of topical subject matter is OK, but it tends to devolve into 
>> the sort of kindergarten playground behavior we’ve been experiencing. If we 
>> can’t play nice together, people will have to go on “time out”.
>> 
>> Nuff’ said.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 9, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Dan
>>> Quite a radical idea-mercedes content on THIS list.
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 12:24 PM dan--- via Mercedes  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> This is the List Mom speaking.
>>>> 
>>>> Enough of the back and forth carping and personal attacks. My finger is on 
>>>> the moderation button.
>>>> 
>>>> And please, let’s not try and “slip one in” for good measure. I’ll be 
>>>> looking at time stamps.
>>>> 
>>>> Back to Mercedes content, please.
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] ML500 saga continues

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Have you got a bill of sale?

With that and Vermont you should be able to wash the title. However, I’m 
wondering how they avoid cars that have liens on them, that is, do they check 
the VIN with a source that would have information like this, such as the state 
where the transaction took place?

-D

> On Mar 9, 2020, at 1:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 09/03/2020 12:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> You can do your own vermont title.   instructions are online.  However they 
>> charge sales tax on the NADA value of the vehicle, not on actual price.   In 
>> the case of my Calif 240D, they want something like $400 sales tax plus 
>> other fees.
> 
> 
> BUT, if it is the only fairly easy way to get a title, it should be worth it.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Covid/Tampa/NPR, Whatever

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Discussion of topical subject matter is OK, but it tends to devolve into the 
sort of kindergarten playground behavior we’ve been experiencing. If we can’t 
play nice together, people will have to go on “time out”.

Nuff’ said.

-D


> On Mar 9, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dan
>  Quite a radical idea-mercedes content on THIS list.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 12:24 PM dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> This is the List Mom speaking.
>> 
>> Enough of the back and forth carping and personal attacks. My finger is on 
>> the moderation button.
>> 
>> And please, let’s not try and “slip one in” for good measure. I’ll be 
>> looking at time stamps.
>> 
>> Back to Mercedes content, please.
>> 
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[MBZ] Covid/Tampa/NPR, Whatever

[dan--- via Mercedes]

This is the List Mom speaking.

Enough of the back and forth carping and personal attacks. My finger is on the 
moderation button.

And please, let’s not try and “slip one in” for good measure. I’ll be looking 
at time stamps.

Back to Mercedes content, please.

List Mom

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Re: [MBZ] Corona Beer Virus, AKA Boo I scared you

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Then you haven’t seen a lot of Florida.

Northern Florida is one of the largest producers of pulp for paper. While this 
isn’t a consumable in the way a vegetable or fruit is, it’s agriculture.

The area around Tampa, specifically Plant City, is the largest domestic growing 
area for strawberries. Buy a quart of berries in your grocery store about now 
and they’re probably from Florida. The production of blueberries in this area 
is reaching significant proportions as well.

Immediately south and east of Tampa is a huge area of tomatoes and cucumbers, 
so much so there are processing plants that sit idle most of the year to handle 
the harvest. Farther south in the Bradenton and Sarasota area is one of the 
largest citrus operations, as well as to the east in Lakeland.

The rest of the state is mostly left to cattle ranching, horse farms and citrus.

Florida has very strict laws regarding the use and sale of fertilizers, 
including sales to consumers. They’re only available for use during certain 
times of the year and are highly regulated. You won’t find commercial 
applicators breaking these laws, as they’re quite strict and involve serious 
fines and even jail time under certain circumstances. Consumers can be cited 
and fined as well, and the state is quite aggressive about it. You own a single 
family dwelling but buy five 40 pound bags of fertilizer? Expect a visit or 
letter from the state. They don’t screw around.

My son has four different state issued certifications and licenses he has to 
maintain to be able to purchase, handle and apply fertilizers and herbicides in 
the state. He gets spot checked by a state inspector randomly, and if it's 
determined that he misapplied something not only does he get busted, but his 
employer as well (one of which is a golf course.)

-D

> On Mar 9, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I call a Doomburg on that!   Except for a few veg grown around Homestead, 
> (and that is horticulture)  I have not seen much "Agriculture" in FL.   I'g 
> guess way more "Fertilizer" is overfertilized on FL lawns by condo assn.s, 
> homeowners,  theme parks, and golf courses than any "overfertilization" by 
> "agriculture."Is Jose the condo lawn guy using precision ag to apply 
> fertilizer to the lawn?Is jose the lawn guy using precision ag to apply 
> fertilizer to the lawn?   Is Joe homeowner using precision ag to apply 
> fertilizer on his lawn?Is jose the groundskeeper at the golf course or 
> theme park using precision ag to apply fertilizer?In each case, I think 
> NOT!
> 
> Tell me why the hell would one of the few remaining farmers put apply a 
> higher rate of his most expensive input than what is needed?
> 
> The golf courses and theme parks, hotels, and joe homeowner all want to have 
> the greenest lawn possible to attract touristas or to beat their neighbor.   
> The cost of fertilizer is a minor cost to them.
>  What is the percentage of NON-ag landowners in FL compared to the percentage 
> of ag landowners?   Nationwide farmers are a fraction over 1%. (and that is 
> counting hobby farmers)  In FL,  if I had to guess, ag landowners would be 
> less than 1%.
> 
> Now tell me again.   WHO is overfertilizing in FL?
> 
>> Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>> March 9, 2020 at 6:16 AM
>> Agriculture is a large part of the issue, especially in terms of phosphate 
>> contamination from over fertilization.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: CV 19

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Where? San Bruno? South San Francisco?

Understand that driving five miles in this area can take considerable time. 
When is your flight out?

Worst case, you could visit Colma while you’re there. Massive cemetery that is 
so big it has it’s own ZIP code.

-D

> On Mar 5, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a meeting with a store that is just south of the airport Tuesday 
> morning. Might not be there more than a couple of hours, not sure. Might have 
> most of the afternoon free.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 5, 2020, at 9:39 AM, dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> SFO?
>> 
>> If you only have a few hours you can’t go into the city, you’ll never get 
>> back in time. If it’s a day while you’re there, sure, go into the city and 
>> do the tourista stuff, Fisherman’s Wharf, get a Boudin bread brown with some 
>> clam chowdah, etc., drive across the Golden Gate to the Marin Highlands...
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I may have a few hours to burn while I’m out there. What should I go see?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 5, 2020, at 8:50 AM, dan--- via Mercedes  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I used to ride the cable cars all the time when I lived there. Locals 
>>>> know to go up the block from the turntables where the touristas cluster 
>>>> for hours and just jump on there. Saves waiting around in line.
>>>> 
>>>> I loved riding the California Street line to Grant. That puts you right at 
>>>> Chinatown, and the California Street line isn’t loaded with touristas like 
>>>> the Powell St. lines are.
>>>> 
>>>> Yum.
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 5, 2020, at 8:51 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> San Francisco is one of my favorite cities. About 15 years ago we stayed 
>>>>> at the Red Victorian in the Haight. Very hippie-tastic, a real hoot. More 
>>>>> recently we stayed in Hotel Triton on the edge of Chinatown.
>>>>> The cable car museum is not to be missed, IIRC its free too. You get to 
>>>>> see the big motors that pull the cable cars around.
>>>>> -Curt
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thursday, March 5, 2020, 12:21:12 AM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stay away from nursing homes..  SanFransicko was a place to be very very 
>>>>> cautious in, even decades ago.   In 1988 it was like a prison.   Ugly, 
>>>>> dirty, filled with criminals,   They'd let you in, but you had to buy 
>>>>> your way out.  its only gotten worse.It is worse than the armpit of 
>>>>> the country.   It is the unwiped anus of the country.   literally and 
>>>>> figuratively.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You could do like the chinese are doing.   Cut the bottom of a clear 
>>>>> plastic 5 gallon waterjug and wear it over your head to keep the virus 
>>>>> out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gotta admit it is innovative when nothing else is available.   But I 
>>>>> wonder about its effectiveness, other than as a placebo.
>>>>>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>> March 4, 2020 at 10:36 PM
>>>>>> I saw that California is some sort of high advisory, with San 
>>>>>> Francisco being a city to be cautious in or something like that. I am 
>>>>>> flying to San Francisco on Monday. Maybe I will get the beer virus.
>>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: CV 19

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SFO?

If you only have a few hours you can’t go into the city, you’ll never get back 
in time. If it’s a day while you’re there, sure, go into the city and do the 
tourista stuff, Fisherman’s Wharf, get a Boudin bread brown with some clam 
chowdah, etc., drive across the Golden Gate to the Marin Highlands...

-D

> On Mar 5, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I may have a few hours to burn while I’m out there. What should I go see?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 5, 2020, at 8:50 AM, dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I used to ride the cable cars all the time when I lived there. Locals know 
>> to go up the block from the turntables where the touristas cluster for hours 
>> and just jump on there. Saves waiting around in line.
>> 
>> I loved riding the California Street line to Grant. That puts you right at 
>> Chinatown, and the California Street line isn’t loaded with touristas like 
>> the Powell St. lines are.
>> 
>> Yum.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2020, at 8:51 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> San Francisco is one of my favorite cities. About 15 years ago we stayed at 
>>> the Red Victorian in the Haight. Very hippie-tastic, a real hoot. More 
>>> recently we stayed in Hotel Triton on the edge of Chinatown.
>>> The cable car museum is not to be missed, IIRC its free too. You get to see 
>>> the big motors that pull the cable cars around.
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>  On Thursday, March 5, 2020, 12:21:12 AM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:  
>>> 
>>> Stay away from nursing homes..  SanFransicko was a place to be very very 
>>> cautious in, even decades ago.   In 1988 it was like a prison.   Ugly, 
>>> dirty, filled with criminals,   They'd let you in, but you had to buy 
>>> your way out.  its only gotten worse.It is worse than the armpit of 
>>> the country.   It is the unwiped anus of the country.   literally and 
>>> figuratively.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You could do like the chinese are doing.   Cut the bottom of a clear 
>>> plastic 5 gallon waterjug and wear it over your head to keep the virus out.
>>> 
>>> Gotta admit it is innovative when nothing else is available.   But I 
>>> wonder about its effectiveness, other than as a placebo.
>>>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> March 4, 2020 at 10:36 PM
>>>> I saw that California is some sort of high advisory, with San 
>>>> Francisco being a city to be cautious in or something like that. I am 
>>>> flying to San Francisco on Monday. Maybe I will get the beer virus.
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: CV 19

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I used to ride the cable cars all the time when I lived there. Locals know to 
go up the block from the turntables where the touristas cluster for hours and 
just jump on there. Saves waiting around in line.

I loved riding the California Street line to Grant. That puts you right at 
Chinatown, and the California Street line isn’t loaded with touristas like the 
Powell St. lines are.

Yum.

-D

> On Mar 5, 2020, at 8:51 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> San Francisco is one of my favorite cities. About 15 years ago we stayed at 
> the Red Victorian in the Haight. Very hippie-tastic, a real hoot. More 
> recently we stayed in Hotel Triton on the edge of Chinatown.
> The cable car museum is not to be missed, IIRC its free too. You get to see 
> the big motors that pull the cable cars around.
> -Curt
> 
>On Thursday, March 5, 2020, 12:21:12 AM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Stay away from nursing homes..  SanFransicko was a place to be very very 
> cautious in, even decades ago.   In 1988 it was like a prison.   Ugly, 
> dirty, filled with criminals,   They'd let you in, but you had to buy 
> your way out.  its only gotten worse.It is worse than the armpit of 
> the country.   It is the unwiped anus of the country.   literally and 
> figuratively.
> 
> 
> You could do like the chinese are doing.   Cut the bottom of a clear 
> plastic 5 gallon waterjug and wear it over your head to keep the virus out.
> 
> Gotta admit it is innovative when nothing else is available.   But I 
> wonder about its effectiveness, other than as a placebo.
>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> March 4, 2020 at 10:36 PM
>> I saw that California is some sort of high advisory, with San 
>> Francisco being a city to be cautious in or something like that. I am 
>> flying to San Francisco on Monday. Maybe I will get the beer virus.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] More avgeek

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Too bad your AA card can’t do something about the lardass in the seat next to 
you.

-D

> On Mar 2, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m current sending this email from a CRJ900 on the way to Lubbock TX thanks 
> to my free wifi from T Mobile with Gogoinflight. Unfortunately it seems 
> American is moving away from gogo so it’s not often I get internet on a 
> flight. Next week I have a 5.5 hour flight from SF to Philly so I might have 
> to pay for internet on that flight. Fortunately my AA credit card credits me 
> back something like $25 in WiFi purchases. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Worth 30000 asking 25000

[dan--- via Mercedes]

$2500, maybe. It needs:

Paint
Rubber (seals)
Dash pad
Dash wood
Upholstery
Carpet
Tires

And that’s just the beginning. I can only assume that the Einstein who came up 
with this listing was experiencing a severe rectal-cranial inversion.

-D

> On Mar 2, 2020, at 7:05 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Plus tax and title
> 
> It does look decent though 
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/2159242194130977/posts/2704434272945097/?d=n
> 
> We just added this classic 1962 Mercedes 220 sedan to our line today. This 
> vehicle runs and drives has a clean title. Still doing research but so far 
> market value as well over 30,000. Asking 25000 plus tax and title. 5806 
> Elliott Reeder road come get this classic before it's gone! If you know 
> anybody send them my way! Once in a lifetime opportunity.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Stocks are on Sale!

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Heh. I did the same. I cashed out a small amount to retire some debt because 
the market was so high. Within a week I had recouped my cash out.

Now I’m down a big chunk, but as with any “correction”, dip, whatever, it all 
levels out in the long term. I’m not even remotely close to panicking.

-D

> On Feb 28, 2020, at 8:21 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> If this guy is so sharp, did he, like I, see this coming a couple weeks ago 
> and sell out of the market at the top? I sold off a small portion to add to 
> my cash reserves, at the top, and I don't get paid to do this for a living. 
> The right advice, but too late to help, is of very little use.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Feb 27, 2020 11:57:39 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> :
> 
>> Good article from a sharp investment advisor:
>> 
>> *Monthly Client Letter *
>> 
>> *February 2020*
>> 
>> Recent outbreaks of the novel coronavirus (a.k.a., COVID-19) outside of
>> China has raised concerns about the virus’ containment. This heightened
>> concern sent global stocks quickly lower over a few trading days as
>> investors assess the potential impact of the virus on the global economy.
>> While we don’t know how many people the virus will infect, the length of
>> this viral cycle and what influence it will ultimately have on the economy,
>> we do know that you may have some questions about how this might impact
>> your investments.
>> 
>> With that, we want to share three investment-related themes to keep in
>> mind. First, don’t give in to the urge to take action. The news stories
>> about the virus can be downright scary, but we need to remember that market
>> prices react immediately to both good and bad information. To potentially
>> make money or avoid potential losses, we would need to trade before it is
>> news. And, of course, we don’t know the future, so any action would be a
>> guess, and any positive result would be luck.
>> 
>> Second, we need to keep perspective. This isn’t the first new virus we’ve
>> seen, and this won’t be the last. SARS, Zika, H1N1 and others have all come
>> and gone. While the concerns at the time were the same (e.g., How quickly
>> will it spread? Will there be a cure? Will it slow down the global economy?
>> Will it impact my investments?), our society has figured out how to
>> overcome past viruses, and markets have done the same.
>> 
>> In fact, markets have short memories regarding epidemics. Markets may
>> initially react to the uncertainty and fear that comes with any new
>> concern, but, for the most part, viruses get contained and investors return
>> to corporate and economic fundamentals. We can see this pattern in the
>> adjacent table. Market returns generally have been up in the six- and
>> 12-month periods following the outbreak of a virus or disease. While this
>> is a small sample set, we know that keeping focused on the long-term
>> helps us keep a level head during
>> all kinds of storms.
>> 
>> The third and final idea we want to share is to be on alert. Believe it or
>> not, the Securities and Exchange Commission had to issue a public warning
>> that fraudsters are attempting to play into our natural emotions of fear
>> and greed during this period of uncertainty. There have been reports of
>> social media posts and online ads promising a huge profit by investing in
>> companies that have supposedly found a cure for the novel coronavirus.
>> We’re sure we sound like a broken record on this topic, but there are no
>> sure things or get-rich-quick strategies when it comes to investing.
>> 
>> Before we wrap up this brief, we want to make a couple observations about
>> the virus. First, one statistic that we haven’t heard much about in the
>> press is on the number of people that have recovered from the virus.
>> According to information tracked by John Hopkins University, over 30,300
>> people have fully recovered from the virus. While it does have a slightly
>> higher mortality rate than some of the more recent viruses, catching it
>> doesn’t mean you will perish. The odds are that our immune system will
>> fight it off. Further, while the number of infected people outside of China
>> has grown, the overall number of people that are contracting it appears to
>> be on the decline. This suggests that containment measures and safety
>> precautions may be working to limit the spread.
>> 
>> Our advice remains the same, to stick to your long-term plan and tune out
>> the noise. We invest client money in a way that isn’t dependent on lucky
>> guesses or get-rich-quick schemes. We use investment strategies and prepare
>> financial plans that assume events like these will come and go. So, please,
>> stay positive and focus on your family and your health. If you want to
>> think about the virus, send positive thoughts toward those infected by the
>> virus.
>> 
>> If you have any questions about your investments, need to inform us of
>> family or work-related changes, or want to 

Re: [MBZ] Action Required!

[dan--- via Mercedes]

I see these day in/day out as a part of my job. The poor 
diction/spelling/punctuation is pretty common across the board. People let 
their brain “connect the dots” despite realizing they’re so poorly written.

You can’t imagine how many times I’ve seen someone who is well educated and 
intelligent respond to one of these...

-D

> On Feb 27, 2020, at 12:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Actually thats part of the scam. The problem, from the scammer's perspective, 
> is that they might invest a whole bunch of time on somebody who figures it 
> out at the last minute. The poor spelling and obvious errors ensure that only 
> the most gullible bite...
> -Curt
> 
>On Thursday, February 27, 2020, 12:43:57 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> It's funny how these scams are almost always given away by basic errors
> in grammar or spelling. You'd think they'd make the effort to avoid
> that. Maybe enough people fall for it anyway.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> "Amazon prime membership suspended. Update your credit card information 
>> here. This email send from trusted sender."
>> 
>> Yeah right... How do I send an email bomb? Maybe start a go fund me page to 
>> hire a hacker to encrypt their data...
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 05 E500 estate sale car ??

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M112 and M113 are both pretty robust engines.

-D

> On Feb 21, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> M - engine: 113967 30 589940 113.967 M 113 E50 GASOLINE ENGINE
> 
> I think they are pretty stout
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 2/21/20 1:30 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> I would like to know about the reliability of the engine and transmissions
>> on that car.  I think Karl said that the AMG V8 version is rock solid.
>> Probably a very decent car if you can get the key.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:30 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I had forgotten about this thing.  Woman selling off some old man's
>>> estate, 05 E500 no key, looks fairly nice from the few pics she sent me,
>>> needs a little Marthaing.  It's kind of a standard E500 model, no
>>> particular extras.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/p1080x2048/82993072_125729268586714_3936748095592726528_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQlVNVJaNENMjSkbZ4WlrgyxntuNCuG_bYc0YiWZ5rsFoQTGmJDEyvy-2vsfvwokYuU&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&_nc_tp=6=03076a4e257e2a2303cdcef4a9338f94=5EF7BB8C
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/82562986_685609818510004_6562094022603571200_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_oc=AQlDjU5B_ePiA6KoefVpIj1q1BCiYLAnM-xklBYM3Hv86U4sdz7LLzIu8nwATOyULEo&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&_nc_tp=7=eed3c86550f005a1d7357daee9cdfebb=5EFA5C33
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/82334685_2411939115786154_8266989154835890176_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_oc=AQn8jGn_kuMh35TWUy-HaneFG-abWXJtBtPQ6kY8n0PMOXUOzd2G2-ucOe-BhwGd_5k&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&_nc_tp=7=b741d3a40b5e4cde5e85349dc4c9cd8b=5EB72627
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/p1080x2048/83524167_2644278829015520_5002992607500959744_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_oc=AQnV9d0-eIg-VHLTxdqYR9PF1vXgAWo4xXVNBMDpLq7l_4vVVwVQVqat-L2D5cw59OE&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&_nc_tp=6=b12c8d3d6e6abbfaaa8c5314de73211c=5EFC0D6B
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/p1080x2048/83173428_2582552855353796_2723702211392569344_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_oc=AQlhAIBJ3siBh73cnCsVIlUqFzIcy0fzO3v8uIyG-zw3ASPKrVSpIRRzLVrNYRppmbw&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&_nc_tp=6=e9b9de4f4a7deaf1da2f1fb7c158b8d7=5EC34379
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/82936359_2735960846484123_5283109537027457024_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQmlk0jjMPXdJyugr1rEOQh3c1G3VOgs-_Icg6Xwi5ctjdMVNCuRBB6Mc49g6Uuw_is&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&_nc_tp=7=31e6e80d4b497a99dc5e5fcb7e395a8e=5EF32D79
>>> 
>>> She just messaged me she got the title signed over to her from someone,
>>> whoever the executor is I guess, now has to launder it through GA to get
>>> it in her name.  Whatever.  She was asking $2300 no key (which is like
>>> $350 to get a new one from MB) so no idea to know if/how it runs, miles,
>>> the center stack thing, any issues, etc.  No way to put the Majik
>>> Computer on it.  She said she rode in it before the owner expired and it
>>> was fine, he took care of it.  Says it isn't squatting so I guess the
>>> suspension is holding.  Not getting any bites in whatever small town she
>>> lives in or wherever the car is, Sparta GA.  I think it is like a 4hr
>>> drive from here, I guess it would be a marginally-entertaining road
>>> trip.  I'm not sure I want to deal with her on the phone, she doesn't
>>> know much about the car anyway.
>>> 
>>> $1500?  I think we discussed this before but she has now piqued my
>>> interest again.  Get a nice driver (if it is in decent shape) and unload
>>> the $600E320 for more than that, come out ahead.  I'd need to get the
>>> title over to me, easy enough, and then deal with MB on a key and see
>>> what actual running condition it is in. Something of a crapshoot I
>>> guess, if I believe her on the ride a few months back I guess it might
>>> be OK.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Ed Ebel

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Call him or Tom, it’s quicker, but you’re not going to like the answer.

serv...@beckerautosound.com

If someone before you tried to put the code in wrong several times the watchdog 
timer will have to run down. It doesn’t matter if the radio is powered down or 
not, that doesn’t affect the timer. I would just power it up and let it sit. If 
they did it enough times it could potentially take a day to time out. Nothing 
they can do about it, the function is a feature of the radio’s firmware.

-D

> On Feb 21, 2020, at 9:33 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have a good email address for Ed Ebel?I have a becker that 
> just says "WAIT" in place of letting me put in the code.I'm thinking that 
> it thinks a cassette was just put in, or was just ejected.   No cassette is 
> in it.The address at harmonbecker bounces.
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Won’t it fit in a Priority Mail flat rate box? At best that would set you back 
$20.

-D

> On Feb 14, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You've got a two pronged problem, its relatively heavy for its size and you 
> need to ship it pretty far. This is one of the reasons you're usually better 
> of buying something like an alternator locally. If its a reman you get the 
> same alternator, you don't pay shipping and you don't have to pay to return 
> the core...
> -Curt
> 
>On Friday, February 14, 2020, 1:50:37 PM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
> Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> I went to mail the alternator core back to Autohauz az today. Its value is 
> $45, post office wants to charge me $50 to mail it. Is this for real? I told 
> them that I’m throwing it right in the garbage. Would UPS be cheaper. I’m 
> only going to try once more before it really goes in the trash. My time has 
> some value here.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  See, I am the opposite.  I don't do bodywork.  Since nothing on the 
>> larrymobile was visible in normal use, I'm ok with hack and tack on that.
>> 
>> On each generation of MBs, what should be simple jobs like changing the 
>> alternator gets more difficult.  I like 240Ds.  If I'd ever driven a 123 
>> 300D, I'm sure I'd like them but I got spoiled with the OM603 and hyd. 
>> lifters.
>> 
>>> Dimitri Seretakis February 12, 2020 at 6:21 PM
>>> Thank you for all your advice and as always, I was cursing the whole time 
>>> and telling myself how much I prefer bodywork!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: IP Cams, WAS W124 300D alternator replacement?

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I have a fish tape.

Ideally, I wanted to run the cable inside the aluminum soffit to the center of 
the garage (soffit) and then do a straight shot (right angle to front of 
garage) from that point across the garage to the utility room where my data 
frame is located.

Getting the soffit open was more of an ordeal than I expected. This is the 
standard perforated aluminum soffit that runs in a couple of channels on each 
side. To loosen up one side I have to pull nails out of the aluminum fascia so 
I can release that side of the soffit. Ugh.

Also, since there’s nothing above the soffit, I’ve got nothing to attach the 
camera to, unless there’s a stringer in the corner, which there probably is. If 
I could open the soffit I would just put a board across it to provide a place 
to secure the camera mount.

I’m still not sure how I’m going to go about this. Grr.

-D

> On Feb 13, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Lorex is Dahua hardware with Lorex software.  Previously Lorex cams only 
> worked with a Lorex NVR but I understand Dahua bought Lorax and Lorex cams 
> are now generic (ONVIF capable).
> 
> The recommendation to use a fishing rod or wire-running kit ( 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/3-16-inch-x-11-ft-fiberglass-wire-running-kit-65327.html
>  ) is a good one.  Saved my bacon running Cat 5 up through columns.  Wish I 
> bought one years ago.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 5:13 AM
> To: Okie Benz 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: IP Cams, WAS W124 300D alternator replacement?
> 
> Interesting.
> 
> My Lorex system is sitting in a box next to my desk, where it’s been since 
> arriving in December. ‘m struggling with how I’m going to get cables to the 
> cameras that will go on either side of the front of my garage. My roof pitch 
> is such that I will have to crawl on my belly in the attic to reach the exit 
> points in the soffits. I’ve got aluminum soffits, so I have to deconstruct 
> them to mount the cameras, as there’s nothing behind them to fasten the 
> camera bases to. I have seriously considered mounting the cameras to the wall 
> just below the soffits, but the exterior of my house is stucco, and I’m not 
> keen about drilling into it to accommodate anchors.
> 
> I’ve decided that I need to resolve this over the upcoming weekend before the 
> weather gets too hot. Grr.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 1:18 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dan,  I think it was you who got me interested in home security cameras so I 
>> thought I'd share these results.
>> 
>> I did a side-by side comparison of four IP cameras ranging from a cheap 
>> (<$50) Reolink 5M cam to a new (>$150) 4M Dahua HDW5442TM-AS.  They are all 
>> "eyeball" style IP cameras.  Here is a link to day and night images (zoom in 
>> for detail):
>> 
>> https://ipcamtalk.com/threads/reolink-ip-cameras.41590/page-3#post-414
>> 681
>> 
>> IMO, all the daylight pics are OK but the 2M and 4M Dahua starlight cams 
>> were significantly sharper at night, especially for a moving person 
>> (although not in these images).
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Penoff via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 5:59 PM
>>> 
>>> Cold front moving in Thursday night. Lows in the 50s on Friday, highs 
>>> will only be in the low 70s this weekend.
>>> 
>>> Looks like I better get up in the attic and get that security camera 
>>> wiring done before it gets roasty.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

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What about that place in Oregon that parts out old diesels? The one that Pierre 
ranted about. Can’t recall the name off the top of my head.

-D

> On Feb 13, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> I did call but theirs is quite rusty so no go.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:43 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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>> I'm never rejected !
>> 
>> There is one at Harry's in Charlottesville, VA for $150.   Sez 101 miles
>> from Rockville Md.   Easy.  call em up, drive down. haul it back, and
>> put it on.
>> 
>> If you call around, you might find one closer or cheaper. but that is a
>> fair one to start with.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?userSearch=int=1000=All+States==B%3E%3FB%3FNY==1985=1985=49.12.4.4=Mercedes%20300D%20(includes%20CD%2FD%2FSD%2FTD)=120.1=Front%20Door=1400047748770=price=20850=39.0897000=-77.1798000=1511408=0==1=
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>>> My search parameters were rejected.
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Re: [MBZ] Commiefornia

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Bad enough that he’s in Fresno. Could be worse, I guess. Could be in Stockton.

-D

> On Feb 11, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It depends on what else is in the area and what else is going on at the time. 
> The most I ever paid was $700/night at a Radisson on 32nd st in NYC while the 
> UN was in town. I told the customer it was an expensive week for me to be 
> there but they insisted. They were paying so the customer gets what the 
> customer wants...
> 
> -Curt
> 
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> I’m out in California where a very old and dated Courtyard is $285 per night. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Barn find of the century?

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Most importantly, practical application. Being able to relate the activity to a 
known process or skill (I believe) makes it that much easier to learn and 
understand.

-D

> On Feb 9, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps it is the combination of time spent reading / studying which is
> followed by visual or hands-on instruction that brings about the
> transformation?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 3:57 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Totally agree.
>> 
>> I am a visual learner, and while I tried and tried to get a tool we use
>> for searching called “regex” down by reading various manuals and online
>> tutorials, the light didn’t turn on until I sat through an online class
>> using practical applications of it. As I saw the instructor putting things
>> together on the screen it started to finally make sense.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2020, at 3:39 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> For what it's worth, I started using GIMP about a decade ago.  All the
>>> online instruction manuals didn't do me a lick of good.  But a one hour
>>> seminar at a convention, where folks demonstrated HOW to use the app,
>> and
>>> I was working it like a pro!
>>> 
>>> So, there IS use for monkey see, monkey do, still!
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

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It wasn’t what was going on there, it was that the place would be jammed with 
doctors, lawyers and bankers.

-D

> On Feb 8, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Why - what was gong there?  I bet it wouldn't shock us today.
> 
>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 7:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> My Dad was a commercial banker. Not into golf, fraternal organizations or 
>> socializing, but he did it as required.
>> 
>> When I saw the TV series “Mad Men” I about blew a gasket, as Don Draper’s 
>> office was the epitome of my Dad’s office. The drink cart, the furnishings, 
>> glass walls, etc., etc.  I loved watching that show just for the sets and 
>> cars.
>> 
>> I do recall that Wednesday afternoons were time off for bankers, doctors, 
>> and lawyers, all of which golfed during this time. We belonged to the 
>> Country Club of Indianapolis and you knew to never go near the place on 
>> Wednesday afternoons. I believe this is one of the sources of the term, 
>> “banker’s hours”.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> > On Feb 7, 2020, at 11:36 PM, Clay via Mercedes  
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> > Non litigator SWMBA will work until 2200 most nights, as she has spent 
>> > many other daylight hours engaged in administrative tasks.  Then there are 
>> > the Very early phone calls (being 5 hours off from NYC) that occur, as 
>> > well as a few Aussies and Asians who like the economic odds the mineral 
>> > extraction industry provides.  Or trying to wrangle financing or other 
>> > deals with European investors.
>> > 
>> > But that does not answer the work/life balance of management/executives 
>> > over 60 years ago.  I seem to recall my father pointing out that the 
>> > higher up the social ladder one went, the more social engagements one 
>> > accumulated.  There was a modicum of “business” taken care of after the 
>> > sun went down.  Dad would not be home for dinner most evenings, and we saw 
>> > him napping on the couch over the weekend.  Very engaged Paterfamilias 
>> > 
>> > clay
>> > 
>> >> On Feb 7, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> I wonder if the reference to working late in the old movies and tv shows 
>> >> might have been an effort to show that these folks were hard working and 
>> >> successful?
>> >> With a show like Perry Mason, I don't think that portraying him as 
>> >> working in the evenings would be unusual. He was a litigator - a court 
>> >> room lawyer and I would expect that a lot of those folks do work evenings 
>> >> and weekends preparing for the next day of a trial and meeting with 
>> >> clients and witnesses to prepare them. I just read a case where the 
>> >> lawyers very obviously failed to properly prepare or test their expert 
>> >> witness to their detriment. They called their client's accountant and 
>> >> qualified him as an expert witness to testify as to losses sustained by 
>> >> the client due to the actions of the defendant. Their witness was totally 
>> >> unable to explain how he had arrived at his conclusions. The defence 
>> >> lawyer cut him to pieces in cross examination and the Judge basically 
>> >> said his testimony was worthless and as a result, there was no evidence 
>> >> to support the plaintiff's claim. The lawyers should have spent more time 
>> >> with him to be sure that he knew his stuff and could support his 
>> >> conclusions with calculations based upon some facts. In the alternative, 
>> >> they would have learned that he could not be relied upon and found 
>> >> someone else to testify on behalf of their client.
>> >> 
>> >> RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Shingles Vaccine

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Shingrex is the vaccine of choice according to my internist. I’m not sure if 
they even offer the “old” vaccine.

Randy, while our insurance system is flawed, nearly all insurers cover 
preventative care 100%, such as immunizations and annual physicals. There can 
be limits, as there once was for the former shingles vaccine, requiring the 
patient to be 60 years or older to receive the vaccine for free. With Shingrex 
they’ve now lowered the age to 50.

I left work around 1:30 today and went to bed until about 7:00. I’m feeling 
better now, but the side effects were still rough although shorter this time.

-D

> On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I think the Shingrx is rated  80% effective while the previous one was,50%.
> Shingles can be very nasty esp the long term lingering nerve pain..
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 3:53 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Did you talk to the Dr about the effectiveness of this vaccine? I had
>> understood that Shingrix (sp?) was much better than the previously
>> available alternative and it was the one to get. However, recently there
>> have been suggestions that it may only be effective for about 4 years.
>> If that should be the case, I wonder if it is worth doing. I don't know
>> what you folks have to pay for it but here it is not covered and the
>> cost is about $300.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Shingles Vaccine

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I forgot to add that regularly “windmilling” the arm where I got the shot 
definitely made a difference. It’s still sore but nothing approaching what it 
was like with the first shot.

-D

> On Feb 4, 2020, at 7:57 AM, dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Last night was not fun. For whatever reason I froze to death all night long 
> despite having a massive blanket on top of the covers. I had to get up twice 
> during the night because I had drank a boatload of water in the evening.
> 
> When I got up, I was frighteningly thirsty. I had my regular large tumbler of 
> “crappaccino”, but was still thirsty so I drank two more big glasses of water 
> before I left for work.
> 
> My hands were crazy cold, too. Had to run them under the hot water in the 
> shower to get them warmed up.
> 
> I’m not sure if this is from the shingles shot or the work I did at the old 
> house, moving a bunch of heavy stuff out. I took a couple of Naproxem sodium 
> before I left for the office. I feel a bit weary, but functional. Not sure 
> how long this will last.
> 
> Ugh. At least it’s done and I can check shingles off the list of potential 
> afflictions.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 6:56 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I got the Hepatitis B vaccination when it first became available as I was 
>> working as a Med Tech at the time. Three shot series, first one was no 
>> bother, second one made me sick as a dog (hurt like crazy from injection on, 
>> fever, sweats), third one I hardly felt.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Shingles Vaccine

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Last night was not fun. For whatever reason I froze to death all night long 
despite having a massive blanket on top of the covers. I had to get up twice 
during the night because I had drank a boatload of water in the evening.

When I got up, I was frighteningly thirsty. I had my regular large tumbler of 
“crappaccino”, but was still thirsty so I drank two more big glasses of water 
before I left for work.

My hands were crazy cold, too. Had to run them under the hot water in the 
shower to get them warmed up.

I’m not sure if this is from the shingles shot or the work I did at the old 
house, moving a bunch of heavy stuff out. I took a couple of Naproxem sodium 
before I left for the office. I feel a bit weary, but functional. Not sure how 
long this will last.

Ugh. At least it’s done and I can check shingles off the list of potential 
afflictions.

-D

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> 
> I got the Hepatitis B vaccination when it first became available as I was 
> working as a Med Tech at the time. Three shot series, first one was no 
> bother, second one made me sick as a dog (hurt like crazy from injection on, 
> fever, sweats), third one I hardly felt.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D motor/engine mount replacement

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I’m pretty sure they should have a notch in them that indexes in a pin or 
square sort of projection on the top of the mount. Be sure to get them aligned 
before you lower the engine onto the mount.

-D

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> 
> Hello everyone.
> I decided to tackle the engine mounts on Hildegard. It took a bit of 
> persuasion to get the passenger’s side lower bolt loose, but after a little 
> “rattle wrench” action and some more ratcheting, it broke loose! Then, I was 
> able to jack up the engine and remove the heat shields with no problem. The 
> cursing began with the upper bolts. I got both driver’s side bolts out with 
> the mount, but the engine side bolt was quite fiddly. I was able to get it 
> out little by little with a wobble extension. I couldn’t find the 3/8“ drive 
> u-joint extension that my dad used, but I have one on the way in order to 
> make the passenger’s side MUCH easier.
> When I get ready to button it up tomorrow, is there a proper way for the heat 
> shields to go in? There didn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason to how they 
> were positioned other than not having the taller side toward the engine. The 
> rear mount behind the oil pan that mounts to the cross member was oil soaked, 
> so I have to order another one.
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Re: [MBZ] OT cost of living in Seattle

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Without going into the details, nor addressing the political aspect of this, 
Ronald Reagan was pretty much the one who ditched government sponsored 
resources such as the ones you mention. In fairness, it wasn’t totally an 
effort to get government out of the business of caring for the indigent and 
mentally challenged, more so a somewhat twisted approach to not meddle in 
people’s lives. There were a lot of people fomenting a revolt for -abled people 
have more control over their lives.

The pendulum swung far, far beyond what I believe a lot of people expected, 
essentially leaving those in need of support and services to pretty well fend 
for themselves.

-D

> On Feb 3, 2020, at 11:46 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That is so sad.   Glad we got to see seattle in 1993, when we shipped cars 
> there to avoid lost angels.Unfortunately, I'd guess Port of LA may now be 
> safer to pick up a car in, or to ship one out.  What we saw in May was 
> certainly not scary.   That was the san pedro part, to see the BB-61.   A few 
> homeless and panhandlers out at night, but nothing scary.
> 
> 
> So tell me:  Up until 1970 or so, we had county homes or county farms. The 
> indigent and mildly nutty were housed there in exchange for whatever help 
> they could lend to maintaining the place. (growing food, work in the kitchen, 
> building, or grounds)   The true nut cases were in mental institutes, with 3 
> hots and a cot.   We were told that was "cruel." and they should be turned 
> out into the streets by the so-cal justus war-eoreiors.
> 
> Is it more cruel to keep indigents housed, fed, clothed, washed and employed 
> (to some extent) or to have them wandering the streets panhandling and using 
> whatever other means they come up with?
> Is it more cruel to keep nutcases housed, fed and clothed and washed etc, or 
> to have them wandering the streets, and assaulting whoever they feel like 
> assaulting?
> 
> Which of these choices is more cruel to the taxpayers?
> 
> 
>> Clay via Mercedes 
>> February 3, 2020 at 9:43 PM
>> The homeless and insane are so bad, that fire fighters will not respond to 
>> some addresses without full police escorts. Usual turn out is four cruisers 
>> per engine because so many first responders were being injured.
>> 
>> Not sure if it made national news, but last week there was a shoot out on a 
>> downtown street corner (outside McD) Three or four shooters (teens of color) 
>> firing into a crowd, killed a few people, injured many more. Chronic drug 
>> dealing and people in deep crisis in that area is so bad that businesses are 
>> closing and moving out because their employees are to scared to come to work.
>> 
>> That $16 is not even enough to be thought of as hazard pay. My youngest boy 
>> was making $16 for his 2018 summer job. Scared the piss out of him so bad to 
>> work in town that he chose to work in ANC for $8.85/hr instead.
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Shingles Vaccine

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In my case there was no callback, it was incumbent upon me to schedule the 
second time. But I got mine at Walgreen’s as my internist has had a hard time 
keeping it in stock. The bulk of the practice is and has been geriatric 
patients for some years, so they do a lot of immunizations.

They have “flu shot carnival” (my description) every fall where they immunize 
over 2500 patients in about 4-5 hours. It’s a real assembly line operation that 
is finely tuned, for sure.

-D

> On Feb 3, 2020, at 8:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I've only had the first shot - they haven't called my back for the second
> one yet. I had almost no issues with the first one.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:44 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Got my follow up shot this afternoon. I’m “windmilling” the snot out of
>> that arm as often as I can. Might not alleviate the side effects much, but
>> it will be interesting to see how much my upper arm hurts tomorrow.
>> 
>> Pharmacist said the flu-like side effects don’t appear to be consistent
>> among patients from what she’s heard from people she’s given the vaccine
>> to. She said some get the first dose and not the second, vice versa or not
>> at all. The dose is identical for both shots, so it’s not like the dosage
>> varies. She said she thinks it might be a function of the person’s current
>> condition relative to their immune system.
>> 
>> Whatever. I just hope I don’t feel like dooky tomorrow like I did the last
>> time...
>> 
>> -D
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] FCPeuro v fcpeuro v autohausaz

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FCP does drop ship from distribution warehouses all over the country for some 
parts. I just got some Lemförder M112 motor mounts and transmission mount and 
they came next day from warehouse in Miami. And that was with my free shipping.

I would agree that FCP does not have the granular selection of parts that some 
other suppliers have. Not sure what that’s about.

-D

> On Feb 3, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I thought RM European went out of business?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 8:57 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am getting ready to put in an order and put all items in carts at all
>> 3.  RM and Autohaus came in a few bucks cheaper but then Autohaus added
>> sales tax.  RM did not.  FCP was missing a couple of small parts I
>> needed that the other 2 had.  That is really annoying.  I am probably
>> going to give RM a shot, anybody ordered from them before?  Any issues?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Meth is the drug of choice in higher-end communities too

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That’s actually a pretty realistic ask for that car.

-D

> On Jan 28, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/584937572349134/
> 
> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

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I call these “appliance colors”.

They resemble industrial grays and other colors that were popular in the late 
50s and early 60s. Some I like, others, not so much.

-D

> On Jan 28, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Most houses today are moving to a mix of grey and beige. They call it 
> greyige. They attribute it to the home "improvement" shows on TV. Note I put 
> improvement in quotes. Most of those houses are unlivable when they're done 
> with them. I'm glad I don't watch them.
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, January 27, 2020, 11:05:45 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Some little bowtie designer snot at montvale or some bowtie marketing 
> snot at montvale told the MBUSA suits that was the appropriate colors 
> for the time.   Like every house for sale or redone by a designer has 
> any color you want as long as it is GRAY   DULL, DRAB, COLORLESS GRAY!   
> That is what the hipsters are buying (because the same designers (and 
> better homes & Gardens, etc) told them everything in the house has to be 
> GRAY!  Just went by a newly redone Tar-jay store on Sat.  EVERYTHING is 
> GRAY!!! Even the red circles of their logo are DULL, DRAB, COLORLESS 
> GRAY! Fuglyy!!!   but is what sells.   The BH circuit has 
> not yest discovered that we are in the 4th year of a new era, and the 
> DULL, DRAB, COLORLESS GRAY is OUT!   I am starting to see more brand x 
> cars in living colors.  That is a good sign.
> 
> #1 daughter just had me look at pictures of the "ideal" house they 
> found.  Guess what!  EVERY surface inside the whole house is DULL, DRAB, 
> COLORLESS GRAY!   Whatver
> 
> 
> 
>> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>> January 27, 2020 at 8:58 PM
>> Yeah if I got it I’d put the turbo engine in it, I bet it’s completely 
>> buggered.
>> 
>> It’s gray with a beige interior though. Fugly. What were they thinking?
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

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Oh, yeah, I always forget about the FPR. I be.ieve it’s under the right rear 
seat.

-D

> On Jan 26, 2020, at 8:23 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I think it does, need to learn my way around this engine. No idea where that 
> is, beyond somewhere on the engine, front or rear.
> 
> Fuel pump relay / fuel pump is another possibility. I think that relay is 
> behind the battery?
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Jan 26, 2020 7:43:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes :
> 
>> Crankshaft position sensor if it has one. Cranks but no start.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> What are the most common causes of a no-start condition?
>>> -
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Re: [MBZ] Dickish commenters on 500SEL

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It did.

-D

> On Jan 24, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1992-mercedes-benz-500-sel-8/
> 
> I thought 1992 W140 came with disposable wiring?
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Re: [MBZ] Herbie Rides Again

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Yes, the Bosch 009 upgrade. Quite popular at the time, and a nice performance 
boost.

-D

> On Jan 22, 2020, at 9:41 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> 
> I had a '63 beetle, black, with the big sunroof. Single carburator, but I did 
> have the Bosch mechanical advance distributor.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Jan 22, 2020 9:29:38 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes :
> 
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-volkswagen-beetle-19/
>> 
>> And your friend can play Thorndyke in this:
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-apollo-5000-gt/
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Re: [MBZ] Political positioning RE: wind turbines

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And I would add that everyone, for the most part, has played nicely with this 
topic. Hence the lack of a need for me in inject List Mom “reigning in” 
requests.

It’s nice when we can discuss contentious topics and things don’t devolve into 
a battle of sorts. That’s the way it should be. Most of you should be commended 
for this, thank you.

-D

> On Jan 22, 2020, at 5:10 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The Ritter list is busy talking about the realization that they’re getting 
> old and going to die soon, except for PDQ, who is prattling on about how he’s 
> all about not having “things” despite the fact that he was clearly into 
> possessions.
> 
> It’s pretty dark. At least this is topical. Exercise your “Delete” key.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2020, at 12:05 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Gee whiz, could you guys give this wind stuff a rest.  It's obvious that no 
>> one has an answer.  You've bored me to the point that I may have to go read 
>> posts on the Ritter list which died a while back but still hasn't realized 
>> it from just this sort of discussions.  I'm going to get my 1980 300SD out 
>> tomorrow and drive it.  And I may blow some black smoke.
>> Best wishes and please move on to another topic.
>> Roger
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
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Re: [MBZ] $500 Wagon Update, CE light is on now

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Of all the CPS failures I’ve seen, only one threw a CEL.

-D

> On Jan 22, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure it even has an OBD port, I think is has the proprietary MB
> diagnostic port.  I've got some learnin' ahead of me...
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 8:53 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> That probably has only an OBD reader?  Get one of those cheap WiFi units
>> that can talk to a phone app. Or we can try the fancy computer to see if it
>> will talk to it.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2020, at 8:39 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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>>> 
>>> This week I'm driving the "new" 1994 E320 TE.  Yesterday the commute was
>>> uneventful.  The front struts are totally flabby, so the car floats like
>> a
>>> 70's 'Mericun boat.  I may need Dramamine.  Heat and AC both work, this
>>> week I need the heat.
>>> 
>>> The coolant temp gauge has issues, starts out dead with the needle stuck
>> at
>>> cold, then it will jump to pegged, and then if I pound my fist on the
>> dash,
>>> it will drop and read normal after about ten minutes of driving.
>>> 
>>> Today a new problem presented, Check Engine light came on with the first
>>> start this a.m.  I've noted that fuel consumption appears to be very
>> high,
>>> only about 70 miles on the first full tank of fuel, and the needle says
>>> about 3/8 of the tank is gone.  Occasionally when warm, she is also hard
>> to
>>> start, requiring several rounds of cranking before the engine will catch
>>> and run.  Runs very smooth with plenty of power once started.
>>> 
>>> Maybe the check engine light is telling me that the O2 sensors are dead?
>>> 
>>> Occasional "no start" maybe a bad crank position sensor?
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Re: [MBZ] Watch Out Dan & Manfred!

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No iguanas here, that’s a strictly South Florida thing. Far more temperate up 
my way.

36F this morning. People will be bundled up in parkas and multiple layers today.

Weenies.

-D

> On Jan 22, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Tree chicken 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It may start raining iguanas.
>> 
>> https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/21/weather/miami-freeze-falling-iguana-forecast-trnd/index.html
>> 
>> "Don't be surprised if you see iguanas falling from the trees tonight,"
>> tweeted the Miami National Weather Service office.
>> -
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Re: [MBZ] OT - RIP - Neal Peart

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Yeah, the whole story about him just taking off after their deaths is really 
sad. Apparently, Geddy and Alex heard little from him the whole time and were 
really concerned about the band ever getting back together.

I heard some really wild stories about them from their crew about when they 
toured as an opening act for Kiss. The guys in Kiss thought there was something 
wrong with them because they didn’t party or have all the groupies. They used 
to barge into the room where Kiss would be having all their post-concert 
debauchery and harsh everyone’s buzz. I don’t recall if it was Paul or Ace that 
Alex used to purposely try and bust up his groupie hookups on occasion just to 
mess with him. At least that’s what I was told.

-D

> On Jan 10, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Bummer. Neil Peart of Rush passed on Tuesday of glioblastoma.
>> I was lucky enough to meet him a few times while working a number of their 
>> tours through the midwest from 1978-1982. Everyone in the band was really 
>> nice, and very kind to the crew.
>> Fly by night, Neil!
> 
> 
> His daughter and his partner went way too soon.
> May they be with him always.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - fires

[dan--- via Mercedes]

I think the best part of AK I saw was the Aleutians. They’re frighteningly 
rugged, like being on a National Geographic program, and the weather is wildly 
unpredictable. It’s difficult to believe that people survive out there.

-D

> On Jan 10, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I liked the scenery and the fishing. I've done the Inside Passage cruise 
> quite a few times. All awesome, but don't want to live there.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dan--- via 
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> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 5:27 AM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - fires
> 
> While I’m no expert, having worked all over AK off and on for eight years, I 
> contend that anyone who lives and remains there for more than a year has got 
> some sort of weird affinity for the place. As I’ve stated before, I was told 
> by more than one of the locals that people who came up from the Lower 48 
> either left shortly after their arrival or they stayed forever. That, and 
> everyone I worked with who were locals other that the indigenous folks always 
> seemed a little “off kilter”, for a lack of a better description. Nothing you 
> could put your finger on, just different.
> 
> I never had a desire to stay. While it’s a beautiful place, and I was 
> privileged to see parts of it that few people ever do, it was depressing for 
> a number of reasons.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Fewer people are living here.  The annual count (7/18-7/19) reports that for 
>> the third year in a row the state has lost population.  Births are down, 
>> deaths are rising, the children (18-) are a bit fewer, the 18-64 population 
>> is lower by 1% (younglings leave) and old people grew by 5% (crazy old white 
>> professionals with good retirement accounts).  Listening to the codgers 
>> complain about the way it used to be is sort of fun, as they seem to have 
>> been the pioneers whose families came up homesteading in the depression and 
>> WWII era.  
>> 
>> Talk about cultural appropriation, they think they are native Alaskans.  
>> Some even wear appropriated fashions.  Which I understand are quite warm, 
>> but remind one of large sunburnt white folk in Hawaiian shirts speaking 
>> pidgin patois.  At least the retired white folk here retain their 
>> professional grasp of english.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Gold or oil . or "hermit-ing".
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 8:15 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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>>> 
>>>> Remind me again why humans live in such a place
>>>> 
>>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT - fires

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While I’m no expert, having worked all over AK off and on for eight years, I 
contend that anyone who lives and remains there for more than a year has got 
some sort of weird affinity for the place. As I’ve stated before, I was told by 
more than one of the locals that people who came up from the Lower 48 either 
left shortly after their arrival or they stayed forever. That, and everyone I 
worked with who were locals other that the indigenous folks always seemed a 
little “off kilter”, for a lack of a better description. Nothing you could put 
your finger on, just different.

I never had a desire to stay. While it’s a beautiful place, and I was 
privileged to see parts of it that few people ever do, it was depressing for a 
number of reasons.

-D

> On Jan 9, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Fewer people are living here.  The annual count (7/18-7/19) reports that for 
> the third year in a row the state has lost population.  Births are down, 
> deaths are rising, the children (18-) are a bit fewer, the 18-64 population 
> is lower by 1% (younglings leave) and old people grew by 5% (crazy old white 
> professionals with good retirement accounts).  Listening to the codgers 
> complain about the way it used to be is sort of fun, as they seem to have 
> been the pioneers whose families came up homesteading in the depression and 
> WWII era.  
> 
> Talk about cultural appropriation, they think they are native Alaskans.  Some 
> even wear appropriated fashions.  Which I understand are quite warm, but 
> remind one of large sunburnt white folk in Hawaiian shirts speaking pidgin 
> patois.  At least the retired white folk here retain their professional grasp 
> of english.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 5:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Gold or oil . or "hermit-ing".
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 8:15 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Remind me again why humans live in such a place
>>> 
>>> --FT
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[MBZ] FCP Euro Free Shipping

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Placed a couple of orders in the last week for E320 stuff, as I need to get 
caught up on the wagons maintenance.

I ordered a set of spark plugs a while back, then it occurred to me that I need 
to do engine mounts, something that makes replacing spark plugs a real piece of 
cake. Getting them out while each side of the engine is jacked up to replace 
the mount puts them in a position where they’re easily accessible. Nice.

So I ordered a set of Lemförder mounts, engine and transmission, yesterday. As 
I’m under no duress to get this done, I chose their free shipping option as I 
usually do.

I got a notice from UPS that I had a package coming from them today, which 
would be the OE K40 relay I bought last week in a closeout sale they had. 
Surprise! The mounts must have been in a South Florida warehouse, so they’re 
coming today, too.

Guess I need to set some time aside to do this now...

-D

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Re: [MBZ] OT - fires

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I’m pretty sure Hendrick is alive and well. I’ve seen him pop up on the 
veteran’s FB group once in a while as well as on OZBenz, John’s MB forum.

-D

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yea we took them to outback. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hendrick? Wife Faye I think?
>> Forgot the surname. 
>> Traveled with son and daughter IIRC?
>> Never met him, but enjoyed his story about eating at Outback Steakhouse. 
>> 
>>> On January 8, 2020 at 2:13 PM OK Don via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Does anyone remember our previous Australian member who toured the US one
>>> summer? He came to our house, but I can't remember his name, to look up an
>>> email address, to ask how the fires are effecting them 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> OK Don
>>> 
>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>>> for themselves."
>>> 
>>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Our VDI environment is non-persistent VMs for the most part. Use it, toss it.

-D

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was going to say "we don't support video editing from a VM" but actually we 
> do. Go price an nVidia Tesla v100, I'll wait...
> Now you see why I don't care to edit video from a VM. ;) Plus you need a thin 
> client and theres an AV offset you have to compensate for, its kind of a 
> pain. Really cool for schools though, make the boot volume of the VM 
> non-presistent and reboot between students, sweet.
> -Curt
> 
>>On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 10:43:03 PM EST, fmiser via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> Curt wrote:
> 
>> If I didn't have specialty applications to support I'd run
>> Ubuntu Linux.
> 
> I banish those specialty applications to a virtual machine.  And I
> have a bunch. [sigh]  The host is GNU/Linux.  From the host
> (Linux) I have good software for browser, email client, pdf
> viewer, pdf creating, image/photo editing, vector graphic editing,
> CAD, spreadsheet, word processing, music player, video player,
> etc.  And then some programs that I rather depend on - some which
> might be Linux only, like sshfs, encfs, unison, ssh, SoX, ffmpeg,
> BASH, etc.
> 
> The virtual machine is for hardware specific software like audio
> DSP control, audio mixer remote control, wireless microphone
> management, and so on.  Wine doesn't work for most of 'em.
> 
> Audio editing in Linux is fair.  Audacity is good at what it does,
> but is not a real DAW. Ardour is kinda tricky and picky but is
> quite capable.
> 
> Video editing in Linux is not so great.  Cinelerra is the best
> I've found so far - clumsy, picky, and hard to use. Avid and
> FinalCutPro from 20 years ago was better.  I haven't use either in
> more than a decade so I don't know how those two are now - but I
> do miss FinalCutPro version 2 when I want to edit video.
> 
> Almost any Linux will be no more trouble than Apple or
> Microsoft.  Just different - and much more "within your control".
> 
>> I NEVER upgrade an OS if I can help it. All you're doing is
>> bringing bits of the old OS along which at best gives you a
>> mish-mosh of stuff and at worst sets you up for misery.
> 
> I think that is a description of Win10!!  The control prefs are
> such a pain.  New names for the same control.  Access path seems
> to be different every time I use it., control some stuff from
> here, some from there, some from dialogs from Win7, some from
> WinXP - maybe even some from Win95!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

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Sort of.

Because the market is very active here (2nd highest increase in home prices 
nationwide) we’re going to go with a fixed price broker. $400 will get us a 
year on MLS and full support from the brokerage as far as managing the listing 
and advice on pricing and comps.

While we could likely sell doing a FSBO, and have done them in the past, 
there’s so much activity through brokers around here that it’s easy to be lost 
as an FSBO. Not only that, as you well know brokers typically won’t touch them 
since they won’t get a commission out of the deal.

We’ve got a boatload of equity in the house, so we don’t mind giving up 2%-3% 
to a buyer’s broker to move the place. It’s a small price to pay to get the 
exposure that MLS will give us. A buyer could still contact us directly and 
avoid using a broker, too. We’ve got our handy real estate attorney friend four 
doors away who will handle the sale for us for a very reasonable fee.

-D

> On Dec 31, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are you going to FSBO it?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2019, at 4:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> First of all, my apologies to Curley and others if I misunderstood. The 
>> real estate market here appears to be very different than yours. While I 
>> know that people are all about “new-new new!” as buyers, with the average 
>> age home being much less in years than in places like the Midwest and 
>> elsewhere that’s not as much of a driver for the marketability of a house.
>> 
>> I think a lot of the “new-new-new” mentality comes from all of the HGTV 
>> remodeling shows that have what seems like everyone and their brother 
>> gutting their houses on a whim to encompass the latest and greatest styles 
>> and designs. I can’t help but wonder if places like the big box remodeling 
>> stores are behind a lot of this, as they’re the ones who stand to gain from 
>> it.
>> 
>> In my immediate area you can find literally hundreds of new homes for sale 
>> on any given day. Development in this area has reached an insane pace, 
>> almost approaching the boom of the early 2000s. I see developments of 
>> 1600-2000 homes going up left and right, and they’re selling as quickly as 
>> they can put them up. If there’s a market for the “new-new-new!” folks it’s 
>> satisfied by these places, and we’ll never see those buyers looking at our 
>> house.
>> 
>> However, with the way things are going, a buyer who wants in a house in 
>> short order, say less than 90 days, isn’t going to go that route. Inventory 
>> homes are rarely available, and the lead time on completion of a new home is 
>> easily 6-8 months from contract signing to occupancy, if not more. These are 
>> our buyers.
>> 
>> Another thing on our side in the market is an established neighborhood with 
>> existing amenities and location. The billions of new homes being built are 
>> in areas where the infrastructure hasn’t been expanded to accommodate the 
>> influx of people, and as a result traffic and accessibility is nothing short 
>> of a nightmare. Those infrastructure upgrades will be years in the making, 
>> maybe as long as 6-8 years or more.
>> 
>> I have a golf course, YMCA, little league, “A” rated elementary school and 
>> private park, all within walking distance. You won’t get those in a new 
>> development. Shopping at major stores is 5-10 minutes away, depending on 
>> where you want to shop. I’m just seven miles to the interstate and less than 
>> that to the Crosstown Expressway, a toll road going directly into downtown 
>> Tampa. Want to live in a new home? You’re looking at an hour commute to go 
>> 25 miles if you work in downtown Tampa. From my house depending on the time 
>> of day it’s roughly 30 minutes. We have a large contingent of military 
>> families here, thanks to being one of the highest rated areas by the BHO 
>> (Base Housing Office) at MacDill AFB, home of SOCOM.
>> 
>> These are all things that make my neighborhood attractive in this market, 
>> and they’ve always been that way as long as we’ve been here. It’s one of the 
>> reasons why we built and bought here.
>> 
>> Now - the “new-new-new!” folks will see our roof, AC and water heater as a 
>> plus, as other properties in the area that might be our competition won’t 
>> have their physical plants upgraded/replaced yet. With the age of most of 
>> these homes being in the early 20 year range, if these things haven’t been 
>> replaced, they’re at the threshold of needing to be. If I look at two 
>> roughly comparable homes, one that has a new roof and one that doesn’t, the 
>> one that will need a roof better be $20k less. If not, I’ll move on. That’s 
>> the average cost of a roof replacement around here. Brokers will definitely 
>> point this out to potential buyers. Paint is a 10 year item. AC, 20 years. 
>> Water heater, 10 years.
>> 
>> We’ll list this house like we have others in the past. First, we’ll get an 
>> appraisal - a 

Re: [MBZ] You think 123 prices are crazy?

[dan--- via Mercedes]

I’m no artisan, that’s for sure.

-D

> On Dec 30, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> The schlub is the guy who watches the artisan doing the actual restoration 
> work.
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 4:30 PM dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> I will say that documenting a job like the Finnie is a bit of a PITA, you 
>> get used to incorporating it into the process. I like doing it as I enjoy 
>> sharing the work with others, plus it gives me reference points if I need to 
>> return to a particular job or repair validate my work or check against my 
>> memory.
>> 
>> I think it also adds value when the time comes to sell the car. You could be 
>> a real schlub when it comes to doing the work, but if potential buyers can 
>> see what and how you did something it instill confidence that the work was 
>> done.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> > On Dec 30, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > You need to restore it (documenting per Dan for his finnie sedan project)
>> > and then auction it on BAT for a huge sum while the rest of us schlubs ooh
>> > and aah.
>> > 
>> > On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 3:15 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> I have this 72 Datsun 510 wagon that belonged to my granddaddy. When he
>> >> got sick like 35 years ago my dad put it in the barn where it sat until
>> >> maybe 15 yr ago when I pulled it out and stuck it in a storage bin in
>> >> KY.  It is basically all original, in good shape except for a few small
>> >> body dings and what the mice and time have done to it.  So a fairly
>> >> unmolested barn "find."  A coupla weeks ago I got thinking about it, and
>> >> found some FB groups for 510s. Lot of guys with cool cars, some mostly
>> >> original, some modified with newer engines, etc.  but still OK.  Fun to
>> >> see the old cars being loved.
>> >> 
>> >> I just saw this POS project car listed, a sedan, the guy wants $2800
>> >> for.  So now I'm thinking this thing I have, even just cleaned up a bit
>> >> not even running might be a $5k car, and if got back running who knows?
>> >> Not that I want to sell it, but I think that is pretty crazy.  My
>> >> granddaddy, who was a very wise man for being mostly unschooled (at
>> >> "school" anyway) would probably say something about fools and money and
>> >> such and just laugh and laugh.  He probably paid maybe $800 for it back
>> >> then, if that much, used, a few years old, and drove it for maybe 10 
>> >> years.
>> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

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Time to make a Lowe’s trip in the morning with a 10% off coupon and buy another 
hybrid water heater like the one I put in at the old house. Yeah, they’re $1200 
new, but cost about $100/year to operate. A comparable standard resistance 
element water heater costs around $400/year, so the hybrid payback is pretty 
quick.

After all, it’s only money...

-D

> On Dec 30, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan wrote: "This could get ugly."
> 
> You meant "uglier".
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 1:07 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The best part about Kroil is its largely inoffensive smell, unlike PB
>> Blaster...
>> Would a gallon of white vinegar allowed to sit for an hour be worth doing?
>> In lantern land vinegar gets used to clean parts quite often. I upgraded to
>> citric acid, I can make it stronger and in the long run its cheaper too.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>On Monday, December 30, 2019, 1:00:29 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Kroil 1, water heater 0.
>> 
>> Old valve removed, new setup with brass fittings and ball valve in place.
>> Now draining into my front yard for some free landscape watering. Long time
>> for 80 gallons of water to drain via gravity through a 3/4” garden hose.
>> Then the pulsing comes in to hopefully clear some of the scale out.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2019, at 12:53 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This reminds me, we're going to (finally!) replace the exhaust manifold
>> on the Pisten Bully on Wednesday. Its cracked near the flange to the turbo
>> and has been leaking the whole time I've been around the machine. Ben says
>> the machine is noticeably down on power because of it. Oh and you need to
>> run with the windows open all the time because the cab fills with exhaust.
>> The "crack" is by now nearly 1/16" wide, its huge...
>>> 
>>> I went down yesterday and soaked all the bolts in Kroil. The studs from
>> the manifold to the turbo are a lost cause. The bolts into the engine don't
>> look bad though. Fortunately the manifold comes with new studs.
>>> 
>>> $1700 for the manifold direct from Pisten Bully. You might remember that
>> this is an MB engine but the Pisten Bully tilts the turbo differently, we
>> never could find an MB manifold that we could work with...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> On Monday, December 30, 2019, 11:47:40 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Since most of the household is back to work today, I figured it would be
>> a good time to do some maintenance on the hot water heater.
>>> 
>>> A bit of a build-up:
>>> 
>>> This (new) house was owned by a widow for probably 8 years after her
>> husband (allegedly) offed himself. That’s a pretty bizarre story for
>> another day. Anyway, as you might suspect, she was prone to get sucked in
>> by contractors as well as not maintain things as one should. One of her
>> early “misses” was installing a solar water heater system. She did this
>> when we still lived across the street, so it was about 10 years ago at
>> least. She pissed everyone in the neighborhood off, as she gave the
>> contractor everyone’s contact information so they could come around and
>> pitch their crap. That did not go over well.
>>> 
>>> When she had the roof replaced a year ago she had the roofer remove the
>> solar panel, yet they left the stub-ups for the water lines. WTF? So I’ve
>> got a new roof with a couple of pipes sticking out of it about a foot, but
>> again, that’s just another issue for the list that I keep…
>>> 
>>> The water heater is really a glorified storage tank. It’s an 80 gallon
>> American water heater with a closed loop that the solar panel’s water would
>> circulate through. Funny, as when we moved in I heard this whirring sound
>> in the garage. The circulating pump was still connected to the loop piping
>> and running, despite everything being disconnected. Duh! Oh yeah - because
>> it’s a solar storage tank, it’s only got one 4500W heating element in it,
>> too. Great. 80 gallons of water and a 4500W heating element...
>>> 
>>> I was sure the water heater had never been flushed, so I did my morning
>> run to Home Despot/Lowe’s and got some brass parts to replace the usual
>> crappy drain valves on most water heaters. 3/4” brass nipple, brass ball
>> valve, hose adapter and a cap.
>>> 
>>> I get home, turn power off to the heater, get the garden hose run out of
>> the garage, open a couple of hot water faucets in the house and get ready
>> to open the nylon/plastic drain valve.
>>> 
>>> Nothing. Nada. Not a drip.
>>> 
>>> Get the compressor and a spray gun with a rubber tip. Open the drain
>> valve, hit it with 100 psi air, and BOOM! A huge blowout on my side. Water
>> and probably a 1/2 cup of scale comes flying out of the drain and coats me.
>> Nice, but progress.
>>> 
>>> Nope. There’s so much scale in this thing it just clogs the valve right
>> back up after I 

Re: [MBZ] You think 123 prices are crazy?

[dan--- via Mercedes]

I will say that documenting a job like the Finnie is a bit of a PITA, you get 
used to incorporating it into the process. I like doing it as I enjoy sharing 
the work with others, plus it gives me reference points if I need to return to 
a particular job or repair validate my work or check against my memory.

I think it also adds value when the time comes to sell the car. You could be a 
real schlub when it comes to doing the work, but if potential buyers can see 
what and how you did something it instill confidence that the work was done.

-D

> On Dec 30, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You need to restore it (documenting per Dan for his finnie sedan project)
> and then auction it on BAT for a huge sum while the rest of us schlubs ooh
> and aah.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 3:15 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have this 72 Datsun 510 wagon that belonged to my granddaddy. When he
>> got sick like 35 years ago my dad put it in the barn where it sat until
>> maybe 15 yr ago when I pulled it out and stuck it in a storage bin in
>> KY.  It is basically all original, in good shape except for a few small
>> body dings and what the mice and time have done to it.  So a fairly
>> unmolested barn "find."  A coupla weeks ago I got thinking about it, and
>> found some FB groups for 510s. Lot of guys with cool cars, some mostly
>> original, some modified with newer engines, etc.  but still OK.  Fun to
>> see the old cars being loved.
>> 
>> I just saw this POS project car listed, a sedan, the guy wants $2800
>> for.  So now I'm thinking this thing I have, even just cleaned up a bit
>> not even running might be a $5k car, and if got back running who knows?
>> Not that I want to sell it, but I think that is pretty crazy.  My
>> granddaddy, who was a very wise man for being mostly unschooled (at
>> "school" anyway) would probably say something about fools and money and
>> such and just laugh and laugh.  He probably paid maybe $800 for it back
>> then, if that much, used, a few years old, and drove it for maybe 10 years.
>> 
>> --
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Re: [MBZ] Axle boot replacement

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Unless someone recent.y got one, probably not. I asked earlier this year and 
came up empty.

-D

> On Dec 20, 2019, at 4:10 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have the tool to put on new boots on axles?   Or the link to that 
> company that sells one and blue super expandable boots?   I have 2 good axles 
> off the 300D and 2 good axles on this car that need boots. Also have some 123 
> axles that need boots.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Electric water heater screaming at me

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If you do tear into it, go the kit route and swap both elements out. If you 
don’t the old one will fail in a week or two, guaranteed.

-D

> On Dec 20, 2019, at 2:46 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So it looks like drain the tank again and pull the lower element and clean or 
> replace it.
> 
> They sell kits for around $30 with two elements, two gaskets, and two 
> thermostats.
> Or new elements are $5 (silver colored) $10 (copper) $20 (folded large 
> surface copper) and $50 (titanium).
> 
> I think I'll get that magnesium rod ordered and ignore the noise until it 
> gets here. Don't want to drain it again without replacing the rod.
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Re: [MBZ] Poos should buy this one for his new big garage

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Agreed. Appliance color, as we refer to it at home.

-D

> On Dec 20, 2019, at 1:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Charcoal gray/red leather is an awesome look for finnies.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 11:25 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The fun is in the hunt!
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 12/20/19 11:11 AM, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I recall this one from the last time around. Nice car, but lots of work
>> done on the body that would concern me for the long run.
>>> 
>>> I’ve got my eyes on a 1966 gasser that a guy has had on CL over by
>> Orlando for awhile. It started at $12k and several months later it’s down
>> to $9k. The seller is some gruff cracker guy who is allegedly selling it
>> for an aged owner as a favor, and he’s not very nice. I started out with
>> him on my sock puppet account but he ghosted me quick when I asked
>> questions and challenged the price. A few weeks later I reached out with my
>> real persona and within a couple of email exchanges he got nasty and blew
>> me off. He acknowledged that it’s really worth around $5k, but that the
>> owner thinks it’s worth far more and he’s not empowered to haggle.
>>> 
>>> I figure I’ll give him a few more months and see if I can go see it in
>> person. Maybe then he’ll have been worn down enough by the lack of activity
>> that he can convince the owner of the “real” value.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Engine wiggles quite a bit. Martha would be replacing mounts galore.
>> What is that random white gauge between the HVAC sliders and the instrument
>> panel?
>>>> I would drive that
>>>> 
>>>> Bob R
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 8:53 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-mercedes-benz-200d-4/
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> --FT
>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Poos should buy this one for his new big garage

[dan--- via Mercedes]

I recall this one from the last time around. Nice car, but lots of work done on 
the body that would concern me for the long run.

I’ve got my eyes on a 1966 gasser that a guy has had on CL over by Orlando for 
awhile. It started at $12k and several months later it’s down to $9k. The 
seller is some gruff cracker guy who is allegedly selling it for an aged owner 
as a favor, and he’s not very nice. I started out with him on my sock puppet 
account but he ghosted me quick when I asked questions and challenged the 
price. A few weeks later I reached out with my real persona and within a couple 
of email exchanges he got nasty and blew me off. He acknowledged that it’s 
really worth around $5k, but that the owner thinks it’s worth far more and he’s 
not empowered to haggle.

I figure I’ll give him a few more months and see if I can go see it in person. 
Maybe then he’ll have been worn down enough by the lack of activity that he can 
convince the owner of the “real” value.

-D

> On Dec 20, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Engine wiggles quite a bit. Martha would be replacing mounts galore. What is 
> that random white gauge between the HVAC sliders and the instrument panel?
> I would drive that  
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 8:53 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-mercedes-benz-200d-4/
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cell phones, long post

[dan--- via Mercedes]

I’ve mentioned this previously and it’s probably not an option for Kaleb, but 
around here Spectrum (Charter bought out Brighthouse and this is their new 
name) piggybacks on VZW for $14/month for 1Gb or $44/month for unlimited data. 
You can BYOD for newer phones (iPhone SE or 6s is the oldest Apple stuff, don’t 
know about Android) so you’re not even obligated to buy hardware from them, 
although they do offer device contracts like other carriers.

That’s an all inclusive price, too. I’m covering four lines right now with a 
monthly cost of $56. Your data is polled among the devices, too, so if the 
usage is lopsided and one exceeds their limit you don’t get dinged as long as 
you haven’t exceeded the total.

-D

> On Dec 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've got Republic. All the new phones are GSM on T-Mobile which is not 
> anywhere near as good as Sprint was. Its super spotty even in big cities like 
> LA and New York. Around here its weird pockets. For instance I've got no 
> service at all at camp, the phone says "no service" as opposed to the times 
> it says "Emergency calls only". By the garage (50 feet uphill) I've got voice 
> service and near the outhouse another 50 feet uphill I've got good LTE 
> coverage. I see similar when I'm hunting, in just the right spot I'll have 
> LTE but then 50 feet away I'll have nothing. Sometimes I have to put on 
> airplane mode and then turn it off to get the phone to find signal.
> I'm paying almost $40 with taxes, a comparable plan with Verizon would be 
> more than $90.
> -Curt
> 
>On Friday, December 20, 2019, 2:01:50 AM EST, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> I would add Republic to that list.  Especially if good Wi-Fi available where 
> you spend the most time.
> 
> For a land line OOMA reduced my cost a lot ($50 to $15 a month) and provides 
> additional useful features.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>> Curley McLain via Mercedes
>> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 11:56 PM
>> To: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cell phones, long post
>> 
>> Consumer cellular.  Att network.  good coverage.  $25/mo for first
>> fone.  $15/mp for additional.  Not happy that they support the
>> AARPfoolishnes.  Also look at patriot mobile and puretalk.
>> 
>> Puretalk maybe a better deal now.  Last time I looked, they were cheaper.  CC
>> sells you a data pool for all phones on the bill.  THat is good.  Puretalk 
>> may
>> make you buy data for each fone.
>> 
>> Verizon sucks.  Att sucks.  US cellular sucks more than either.  It was 
>> always
>> the most expensive carrier due to all their add on and gotcha fees.
>> 
>> Tmobile and sprint (and most other minor carriers) are only good if you are 
>> in
>> big cities or along major interstate highways.  (maybe on the
>> highways)
>>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  December
>>> 19, 2019 at 10:27 PM
>>> 
>>> I am currently in Fayetteville AR for work which is just right outside
>>> US Cellular coverage area. Guess what, data is so slow it is not
>>> usable. Before we left for trip went to the local US Cellular store to
>>> add a line for the other kid then the wife decides she wants to get a
>>> new phone since hers was just paid off. I did not want to do this
>>> since phones were paid off and was going to have to move service if US
>>> Cellular continued to not work while out of town (remember I had not
>>> traveled lately). If I would have known I still could not use their
>>> data while traveling I would not have agreed to new phones there,
>>> would have switched.
>>> 
>>> So, now I am going to have to move my line to a different carrier and
>>> will have to leave the other lines with them since they now have a
>>> phone payment. Or else pay off the phones which I don’t want to do. I
>>> am looking at either Verizon or T Mobile. I like Verizon because they
>>> have better coverage but T Mobile is not far behind them as far as I
>>> call tell. Both include Mexico and Canada which is important because I
>>> will be traveling to Canada for work on occasion. The thing swaying me
>>> toward T mobile is the fact that they include free WiFi on flights,
>>> and they are a little cheaper.
>>> 
>>> Anybody have a bad experience with them or any other feedback?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cell phones, long post

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Here’s the straight poop from someone who was involved heavily in the buildout 
of both AT and Verizon’s cellular networks:

Both carriers have the highest number of cells nationwide of any carrier that 
is a primary, with Verizon having the most. All the others, save Sprint, are 
piggybacking on one of the big guys. The piggyback contracts have limitations 
on the number of cells available and the coverage areas.

Go with Verizon. They are the best as far as coverage between the two. They’ll 
rape you on their plans, but that’s the price you pay for accessibility. I’ve 
used them continuously since the early 1990s and never had a coverage or 
bandwidth issue. The few times I had poor signals in a fixed area I frequented, 
I called them and reported it and found the issue resolved within a few days. 
They can tune their coverage and will do so if they get enough tickets 
reporting it.

-D

On Dec 20, 2019, at 2:46 AM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:

>> Kaleb wrote:
> 
>> I don’t want to do. I am looking at either Verizon or T Mobile.
> 
>> Anybody have a bad experience with them or any other feedback? 
> 
> T-Mobile is the Google-Fi carrier that covers here.  Fairly
> dependable, but I can't speak for an actual T-Mobile account.
> T-Mobile was the biggest single buyer of the 600 MHz TV spectrum
> and they claim that their goal with the lease is to better cover
> rural areas.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Winter tires

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No question. A set of Nokia Hakkapelitas can’t be beat.

-D

> On Dec 19, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Weight is also a big help.  200# of sandbags is a start.
> 
> For really slippery days, nothing seems to beat about 3500#
> of camper in the back of the truck.
> 
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[MBZ] OT - Gross Incompetence. (RANT)

[dan--- via Mercedes]

As I get things sorted at the new house, I purchase new products, some quite 
substantial and/or expensive. I have expectations that these products be well 
designed and built, some of the criteria I use to make my purchase decision.

I’m questioning the competence of some major manufacturers after my recent 
experiences, for example:

1.) Kohler Cimmaron toilet - plumber son gets it all installed and ready to go, 
on,y to discover that the fill valve is defective and must be replaced. A call 
to my good friends at Kohler got a, “OK, like, we’re sorry, and we’ll send out 
a replacement in 8-10 days”

Yeah, not acceptable, folks. A very expressive conversation with the phone 
idiot about Herbert V. Kohler and “gracious living” (one of his “values” that’s 
engraved all over the company) and I git two day expedited shipping. And by the 
way, who pays for the plumber’s callback because of your incompetence?

2.) Bosch dishwasher - Got the old dishwasher out, the new Bosch ready to go 
in, but no sign of a drain hose. Look at the installation manual under “Parts 
provided with dishwasher - drain hose.” Nowhere to be found.

A call to Bosch yields a similar response. 5-7 days and we’ll have one to you. 
Nope, buddy, not acceptable. “If you call back in the morning between 8 and 12 
Eastern time you can get one expedited in two days.” Yea, that’s what I’ll do.

Holy mother of pearl, what is wrong with these places?

Grr.

-D down one toilet and no dishwasher




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Re: [MBZ] OT - AK data point

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Asians in general, both Chinese and Japanese. Heck, remember their former 
President, Fujimori? I got to attend this black tie reception thing with him 
when I was there on business years ago. My buddy at work that covered South 
America was Peruaño and donated or helped get medical equipment shipped into 
the country from the Peruvian community in Milwaukee.

We used to travel down there together, and on one of our trips he told me to 
pack formal wear but didn’t tell me why. There was this big reception with 
Fujimori and a bunch of business leaders that we went to, and he got some sort 
of award for the work he did for this medical group that received the donations 
he coordinated.

It was pretty cool. I had to fill out a card with the phonetic pronunciation of 
my name for the receiving line and I got my picture taken with him. I should 
dig that out...

-D

> On Dec 18, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Do you mean Japanese? There is a large Japanese colony there, including my
> dentist who expatted to Maryland
> 
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 2:51 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> There are quite a few Chinese in Peru too, "Chifas" as they are known,
>> and the restaurants are pretty good.  I don't know what brought them
>> there in the past.  And the Chinese have lately become big donors to
>> Peru, building all kinds of stuff.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 12/17/19 5:30 AM, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Go into a very authentic Chinese restaurant in Panama City and the
>> employees all speak very fluent Spanish. “What is wrong with this picture?”
>> your brain will say.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Who Has Direct HVAC Experience?

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Follow up:

AC guy just left. Nothing I did disturbed things, it was pure chance.

“A” coil has leaks and the system has leaked down to the point where the low 
pressure switch won’t engage. Looks like the coil is warranty but I’ll have to 
cover the labor. Easy R as the unit is right in my garage and you can walk 
right up to it, so that helps.

It sucks, but better it fails now that in the middle of summer. It’s 60F and 
sunny today and will continue to be like this for a few days, so my timing is 
good.

There’s always a bright side...

-D

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Re: [MBZ] HF click torque wrenches

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Don’t buy a HF inch pound torque wrench. I don’t like the way they click (or 
don’t). The click doesn’t seem to be very positive.

When I did the injector reseal on the W211 I needed a 1/4” drive torque wrench 
that would do 7 inch-pounds. I got this one and was very pleased with it:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M12284X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1

Not quite a HF price, but the quality seems very good as was the accuracy 
checked against a beam type wrench that has been calibrated.

-D

> On Dec 18, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hmm, I might get one of the smaller ones. I've never had anything that could 
> deal with inch pounds. I've got 3/8" and 1/2" beam and a 1/2" clicker that 
> all work well. I think the beam ones are both Craftsman, the clicker I got at 
> a yard sale. I wouldn't trust it for anything truly sensitive but it works 
> for tightening lug nuts...
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Wednesday, December 18, 2019, 11:16:30 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via 
> Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> I saw an ad in Sunday paper that HF has the 1/4 3/8 1/2 click torque 
> wrenches on sale for $10 any size.  I wonder if they are any good, seems 
> like cheap enough to have a set in the tool box. I have a pretty good 
> 1/2" Craftsman I got years ago.
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Re: [MBZ] TV's

[dan--- via Mercedes]

I came rally close to going OLED when I bought a new TV earlier this year. I 
realize they punch everything up in the stores, but across the board they were 
definitely better as far as picture quality.

I’ve got a 55” plasma that we took out of service because it was ghosting 
slightly in one part of the display. I may put it on the wall in the garage for 
some really decadent garage entertainment.

-D

> On Dec 18, 2019, at 11:13 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
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> 
> My next TV will be OLED.  Only worthy successor to plasma.
> Our smart (!) Panasonic plasma TV's are still running well, but
> the smarts expired years ago.  (No updates, services stopped
> working, etc.)  No matter, they work well as monitors, and as
> broadcast TV tuners.
> 
> -- Jim
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