Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt will need all his snow machines

[Clay via Mercedes]

In GWN the kids are too pampered to bother with shoveling.  Could be due to 
parents having power tools.   SWMBA got a 300cc, 30inch two stage monster Troy 
Bilt for the property when she moved up.  Many of the neighbors are now 
sporting puny battery powered 21inch machines.  Quiet, but not that good for 
accumulations.   I will run the big thing down the sidewalks and clear the mass 
mailbox station.  Also hit a few of the driveways of the older gals who have 
not contracted with plow operators.

clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On Jan 28, 2022, at 9:35 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Is that a thing still? Kids shoveling drives and walks for money? 
> We always had money as kids; mow in summer, shovel in winter. But, of course, 
> never charge the elderly neighbors. 
> 
> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt will need all his snow machines

[Clay via Mercedes]

I found chickens were a great solution.  I used a push mower on the tiny patch 
of grass and found it exceedingly swift job done.  The chickens roamed the yard 
and kept weeds and bugs in check in my fevered mind.  Had the push mower out 
once a month at most.  Then, I went a season without hens.  I was out there all 
spring and autumn and much of summer until the grass went to sleep.  I got the 
first few sets of chicks the next spring and reduced lawn care and weeding to a 
few hours a month.  Better than a herd of goats


Clay


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> On Jan 29, 2022, at 10:15 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you truly cared about the environment you’d use a manual push mower! 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt will need all his snow machines

[Clay via Mercedes]

The girls move out of the way of feet, and the fertilizer they expel is quickly 
scratched back into he dirt.

Clay
> On Jan 29, 2022, at 5:02 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Watch you step!
> 
> Michael E. Esh

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Re: [MBZ] Speed cameras

[Clay via Mercedes]

The Pittsburgh bus on the tumbled down bridge was riddled with nine cameras.  
It will be used to see why the recent infrastructure boondoggle caused the 
bridge to collapse as a photo op for the current resident.

Clay

> On Jan 30, 2022, at 10:25 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Very unpopular in the UK and have been for years.
> 
> One time when I was there in the 90s I saw a traffic/speed camera that 
> someone had tossed a tyre filled with something flammable over it. It was 
> burning like a huge torch. The guy I was riding with said he saw things like 
> this on a fairly regular basis. A lot of people were pissed off about them.
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] FB Rant

[Clay via Mercedes]

Same sort of thing with a bike that was abandoned in my driveway.  Tried to CL 
and Freecycle the thing for weeks.  Kept it in the parking strip and nobody 
would molest it.  Put a $5 sign on it one morning and it was gone before I 
could finish my cup of coffee.


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looking for didn't fall out.




> On Feb 6, 2022, at 6:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've done better putting a $50 sign on it and waiting for somebody to steal 
> it.
> 
> I put out an old riding lawnmower at my parent's house one time, $50 sign on 
> it. I didn't even get back to the house, truck pulled up, 2 guys jumped out, 
> grabbed it and tossed it in the back and burned rubber out of there. I don't 
> think they even noticed that it didn't have an engine...
> 
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: "The Repair Shop"

[Clay via Mercedes]

That is a gem of a show!  Makes me misty eyed most episodes

Clay



> On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:05 AM, greg via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> In a desperate attempt to avoid news media, I have been searching for more
> emotionally neutral TV material. I stumbled across a British series that I
> believe many of you will enjoy.
> 
> In a thatched barn in rural England a bunch of talented restorers have set
> up shop to rebuild and restore peoples' old treasures and junk.
> 
> It's on Discovery. After watching a few episodes I'm hooked.
> 
> Greg

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[MBZ] Happy Moose Day

[Clay via Mercedes]

https://i.imgur.com/nVnIfvc.mp4

Look both ways before going outside

Clay

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[MBZ] Happy Moose Day

[Clay via Mercedes]

https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/app/2022/04/20/after-4-years-moose-counts-biologists-put-number-how-many-live-anchorage-bowl/?outputType=apps
 


More moose opportunity to bite your neighbors than any other US town

Clay
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices going back up

[Clay via Mercedes]

#1 boy reports he just paid $6.0199/gal for #2 in the work truck in ND.  This 
from the oil fields area of NW ND.

Clay


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> On May 3, 2022, at 4:25 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why? We are out of heating oil season. This time of year if should be 
> dropping.  If it’s this bad now would hate to see what it’s going to be like 
> this winter. 

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[MBZ] moose day

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Clay


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Re: [MBZ] R320CDI - $7,900 (Richmond, IN)

[Clay via Mercedes]

I always confused the R series with the Pacifica.  They both stopped showing up 
about the time DBAG dropped chrysler

clay 

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> On Oct 9, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> When did they stop making the R class?
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 3:53 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Don't know much about these. Always seemed to me that they had a lot of
>> Chrylser minivan influence in the styling.
>> 
>> 
>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/richmond-2008-mercedes-benz-class/7210896864.html
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[MBZ] Learn something each day

[Clay via Mercedes]

TIL NYC has the most native americans (111k) in the nation.  OKC (36.5k) has 
more natives than ANC(35.9k).  NYC is some 309 square miles, while ANC is 1944 
miles.  I am going to posit there are more classic mercedes at okie acres than 
in all of ANC.

Another tidbit, because the work at home scheme does not provide ready access 
to business mail, so it shows up in bulk drops days or weeks after postal 
delivery,  a native corporation just became the largest booze vendor in the 
state.  This increased their retail revenue 600%, from $2mm to $12mm annually.  
No roads in the dry villages, so more likely to hit a moose or sled dog with a 
snow machine than crash a benz on a bender.  

Also the Bar Rag reports that divorce, bankruptcy, domestic violence, estate 
planning and torts are up.  Day drinking has increased, but the lack of 
operational economy has resulted in fewer people trying to go eat or purchase 
things, so DUI is down.  Aggressively unmasked walkers, moms and kids, are 
intimidating the few AARP card holders brave enough to be seen in public.  
Normally these oldsters only venture out wearing a face covering in their 
sealed vehicles.  I have not witnessed any masking in Mercedes cars.

clay 

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about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

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Re: [MBZ] Learn something each day

[Clay via Mercedes]

I have a few barrels worth of cider aging.  Too bad it is not near me.  Or, 
maybe for the best, as I would then be consuming said barrels to keep warm 
while the snow falls.

not snowing just yet, but it is coming

clay 

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> On Oct 10, 2020, at 9:01 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've got some homemade 14 year old apple champagne that is getting real 
> mellow.   It is very tasty!   Very bubbly, naturally.
> 
>> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>> October 10, 2020 at 11:37 PM
>> I’m drinking 12yo Scotch whisky now


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Re: [MBZ] Cold weather engine starting aids.

[Clay via Mercedes]

Gave the lawn what may be the last pass with mower.  Snow is on the card in the 
next 36 hours.  Hard frost all day, instead of the early morning dusting on the 
grass.  I truly hate the cold.

clay 

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> On Oct 16, 2020, at 6:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It was only 93F here today, and will only get down to 73F overnight. 
> Shoveling constantly to clear the drifts of sunshine here. When I wrapped up 
> in the garage tonight around 8:30 it was still in the mid 80s.
> 
> -D


clay 

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self-recrimination and wetness.”

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Re: [MBZ] Cold weather engine starting aids.

[Clay via Mercedes]

At this point it is mow by braille, as all the worm castings and dip/heave are 
solid.  Still warm enough that the blade will melt the grass before chopping.   
I might get one more go at it if the current snow blanket melts off.

clay 

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> On Oct 16, 2020, at 7:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> When you mow the lawn when it’s frozen like that, does it just shatter?
> 
> -D


clay 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Clay via Mercedes]

New appliances are toys not tools.  I have no need to interface with my washer 
or fridge over wifi. EVER.  Except, now I do, if I want to access the more 
arcane and magical permutations of cleaning or food storage.  I prefer analog 
with the brain engagement over expecting some programmer who probably does not 
wash themselves let alone clothing, to kludge software.

clay 

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> On Oct 17, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's hard to draw broad conclusions from anecdotes. My LG front-loader
> lasted 13 years with one minor failure (drain pump, which was easy to
> replace thanks to good design) prior to its final fatal failure. It was
> serving a family of 5 so it got a lot of use during that time.
> 
> Samsung and LG are both Korean, so I would expect they have similar
> approaches to design and quality control.
> 
> ALL modern appliances have gone overboard in terms of adding gizmos,
> touch screens, WiFi, remote control from your phone, etc. I actively
> avoid models with those features, just adds cost and is one more thing
> that can break.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> The LG dishwasher we purchased 10 years ago had to be written off after two
>> major repairs in the first 2 years costing over $600.  The Bosch
>> replacement performed much better, although we inadvertently bought a
>> junior sized (not a Tall Tub) model..
>> 
>> OTOH, my LG Android phone is beyond awesome.
>> 
>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 9:04 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I avoid any LG product ever since I had purchased a Kenmore Elite
>>> frig that was made for them by LG. Interior latches broke because the
>>> springs were to stiff. Roller wheels shafts broke from their
>>> mountings. The last straw was when the interior light didn't shut off
>>> when the door was closed, got so hot that the plastic bezel and lamp
>>> mounted deformed and melted. Oh and they had to send me money every
>>> year because them fibbed about its energy usage.
>>> 
>>> I have replaced it with a Samsung which hopefully, is be better engineered
>>> than the LG, but only time will tell.
>>> 
>>> Bob Massmann
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

[Clay via Mercedes]

The new opener in GWN has that option.  I could not make my phone work with it. 
 The rest of the household figured it out. I do not see a need to use my phone 
to have some hacker track me.  The former keypad opener was not compatible with 
the new machine.  A replacement arrived today that wants coding and pairing to 
the wifi network.



clay 

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> On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:16 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My landlord’s guy just installed a new garage door opener in the joint. It 
> has Wifi. I  valiantly fought the urge to download the app that allows me to 
> open and close the door and know the status of the door from anywhere on 
> earth. I lasted two days and then I did it mainly to mess with my grown 
> children. 
> Please don’t tell them. This has been fun. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> New appliances are toys not tools.  I have no need to interface with my 
>> washer or fridge over wifi. EVER.  Except, now I do, if I want to access the 
>> more arcane and magical permutations of cleaning or food storage.  I prefer 
>> analog with the brain engagement over expecting some programmer who probably 
>> does not wash themselves let alone clothing, to kludge software.
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
>> about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout 
>> of self-recrimination and wetness.”
>> 
>> B. Johnson
>> 01/09/2020
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's hard to draw broad conclusions from anecdotes. My LG front-loader
>>> lasted 13 years with one minor failure (drain pump, which was easy to
>>> replace thanks to good design) prior to its final fatal failure. It was
>>> serving a family of 5 so it got a lot of use during that time.
>>> 
>>> Samsung and LG are both Korean, so I would expect they have similar
>>> approaches to design and quality control.
>>> 
>>> ALL modern appliances have gone overboard in terms of adding gizmos,
>>> touch screens, WiFi, remote control from your phone, etc. I actively
>>> avoid models with those features, just adds cost and is one more thing
>>> that can break.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
>>> 
>>>> The LG dishwasher we purchased 10 years ago had to be written off after two
>>>> major repairs in the first 2 years costing over $600.  The Bosch
>>>> replacement performed much better, although we inadvertently bought a
>>>> junior sized (not a Tall Tub) model..
>>>> 
>>>> OTOH, my LG Android phone is beyond awesome.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 9:04 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I avoid any LG product ever since I had purchased a Kenmore Elite
>>>>> frig that was made for them by LG. Interior latches broke because the
>>>>> springs were to stiff. Roller wheels shafts broke from their
>>>>> mountings. The last straw was when the interior light didn't shut off
>>>>> when the door was closed, got so hot that the plastic bezel and lamp
>>>>> mounted deformed and melted. Oh and they had to send me money every
>>>>> year because them fibbed about its energy usage.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have replaced it with a Samsung which hopefully, is be better engineered
>>>>> than the LG, but only time will tell.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob Massmann
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Now it's the washing machine

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The things are not that smart.  That feature would be good.  I have to visit a 
web site and use QR coding to access programming to input through the phone 
into the appliance to activate the special sock wash and eat cycle, or sanitize 
and shred bedsheets.


clay 

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> On Oct 19, 2020, at 6:49 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If it will tell you what part is broken you can just order and install it
> yourself, saving some cash potentially on repair people.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 5:04 PM Clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> New appliances are toys not tools.  I have no need to interface with my
>> washer or fridge over wifi. EVER.  Except, now I do, if I want to access
>> the more arcane and magical permutations of cleaning or food storage.  I
>> prefer analog with the brain engagement over expecting some programmer who
>> probably does not wash themselves let alone clothing, to kludge software.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our
>> history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this
>> general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.”
>> 
>> B. Johnson
>> 01/09/2020
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's hard to draw broad conclusions from anecdotes. My LG front-loader
>>> lasted 13 years with one minor failure (drain pump, which was easy to
>>> replace thanks to good design) prior to its final fatal failure. It was
>>> serving a family of 5 so it got a lot of use during that time.
>>> 
>>> Samsung and LG are both Korean, so I would expect they have similar
>>> approaches to design and quality control.
>>> 
>>> ALL modern appliances have gone overboard in terms of adding gizmos,
>>> touch screens, WiFi, remote control from your phone, etc. I actively
>>> avoid models with those features, just adds cost and is one more thing
>>> that can break.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
>>> 
>>>> The LG dishwasher we purchased 10 years ago had to be written off after
>> two
>>>> major repairs in the first 2 years costing over $600.  The Bosch
>>>> replacement performed much better, although we inadvertently bought a
>>>> junior sized (not a Tall Tub) model..
>>>> 
>>>> OTOH, my LG Android phone is beyond awesome.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 9:04 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I avoid any LG product ever since I had purchased a Kenmore Elite
>>>>> frig that was made for them by LG. Interior latches broke because the
>>>>> springs were to stiff. Roller wheels shafts broke from their
>>>>> mountings. The last straw was when the interior light didn't shut off
>>>>> when the door was closed, got so hot that the plastic bezel and lamp
>>>>> mounted deformed and melted. Oh and they had to send me money every
>>>>> year because them fibbed about its energy usage.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have replaced it with a Samsung which hopefully, is be better
>> engineered
>>>>> than the LG, but only time will tell.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob Massmann
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Magnitude 7.5 earthquake near Sand Point, Alaska

[Clay via Mercedes]

I did not.   No alerts in town, but I think it was more scary and tidal waves 
for the tiny islands or the coastal rainforests.

clay 

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> On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us6000c9hg/executive
> 
> Clay, did you feel it?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Geothermal energy to the rescue

[Clay via Mercedes]

Interesting.

Article claims AK has large geothermal.  Not really.  Only viable current use 
is for a supplemental veggie grow operation connected to a hot spring resort.  
The bulk of the resource is too cool for more than hot house use unless the 
drilling can get beyond 4km.  Maps of explored sources show mostly shallow and 
cool which then peters out past 1200m.  The other problem relates to everything 
being out in the boonies, beyond fiscally viable recovery and delivery to 
market.  Except if you are living on an Aleutian island with a resident volcano 
to tap.





clay 

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about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

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> On Oct 23, 2020, at 11:32 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sounds almost too good to be true, but worth a try:
> 
> https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2020/10/21/21515461/renewable-energy-geothermal-egs-ags-supercritical
> -- 
> OK Don

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Re: [MBZ] OT:Wildfire

[Clay via Mercedes]

Initially thought it was a PDX protest photo.

clay 

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about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

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> On Oct 23, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 'Nother democrat paradise!
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Oct 23, 2020 1:54:35 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes :
> 
>> Is this the sort of fire you can see from outer space?
>> (Colorado fire)


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Re: [MBZ] Oldest Mercedes with screen display

[Clay via Mercedes]

The ’14 Yota requires link to your phone to gain full functionality.  Except, 
the app is “vintage” and limited to cutting edge for three years ago.  Not that 
I hook the phone to the car, as I am able to access the am/fm band ok.  SatNav 
is seven years out of date without the phone.  I much prefer an old Becker 
Mexico or Europa II

clay 

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about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

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> On Oct 24, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No, just avoiding more stuff to go wrong.
> 
> Case in point -- my '09 Volvo has a nice radio. It includes XM satellite
> radio, but it doesn't work. Why? Whatever protocol that Sirius/XM used
> in 2009 they no longer use today. So it's useless, and can't be
> "repaired" because the breakage is an external dependency. Same thing is
> very likely to happen with built-in satnav, phone integration software,
> etc. At some point, you'll be faced with either a forced software
> upgrade for $$$, or "no longer supported."
> 
> I don't want that stuff in my car.
> 
> Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Oldest Mercedes with screen display

[Clay via Mercedes]

This is what SWMBA deems reliable transport.  Given the more recent quality 
issues DBAG has suffered and the few years MB has been in the AK market, there 
was no reasonable option of having a Benz here.  Dealer is clueless about 
anything made prior to the current century with shallow tech talent.  I found 
but one indy shop in the state.   

There are only third or fourth tier dealerships in the state.  There are 
constant ads for tech employees to man service centers no matter what brand.   
May as well bit the bullet until I can escape back to the real world and snag a 
Landy II or FJ 45 out of Mexico

clay 

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about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

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> On Oct 24, 2020, at 6:15 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why would anyone drive a  Yota?
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI


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[MBZ] Mac laptop

[Clay via Mercedes]

I am needing a desktop replacement, maybe, for life in GWN.  Being in a small 
house, locked away due to WRD, portable would be better, as there is no 
chamber/room to actually set up my Mac Pro.  

Currently I depend upon a 2009 macbook that is getting long in the tooth.  
Hardware in SEA, yet to arrive here is the MP 3,1 loaded out with 4-2GB drives, 
32GB ram, dual Xeon 3.2.  This is the homebase unit with all data 
(photo/video/audio) and pairing of devices.  There is a time machine hdd as 
well as some external drives (firewire).   Other unit is a mid 2010 mac mini 
fully outfitted and time machine unit as well, that hooked to the old 52” TV.

Should I really be looking at the current crop of hardware, be it Mac Pro or 
MBP 16?  Cost and lack of optical drive/upgrade path deter going for either.  
Retina models were a quality quagmire, which leaves the mid 2012 MBP.  Not sure 
the soda can MP solves anything.

Chime in please


clay 

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Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

[Clay via Mercedes]

The rest of the family uses winder 10.  There are multiple crisis each week 
with winders or the hardware going AWOL.  I quit using winblows with XP when it 
kacked itself somehow and refused to allow a re-install with the factory disk.  
At that point I moved to Linux for that hardware, going pure MacOS.   Some of 
the HP laptops, both factory and costco aged out quickly with the boys using 
them at school.  Not sure why, but two years in (even with the cutting edge i7) 
they “needed” to build towers to meet the computing needs.

I think I will look at the refurbs/renew until the reliability of the newest 
apple hardware proves out.  Trash can MP seemed a tangle of cords and 
peripherals when it came out.  The portable need is related to lack of access 
to desk in the current house.  I have to schlep from surface/seat with all the 
“home schooling/lockdown” panic.  Makes me think home offices will become a 
major design theme for the next decades in new construction.  No more granite 
and brushed SS or box beam ceilings

clay 

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self-recrimination and wetness.”

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> On Oct 25, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Carp, I forgot he wanted a laptop. I haven't kept up with the newer models. I 
> was talking to some guys at a reseller in New Zealand the other day and they 
> were talking about an HP something but I can't remember what.My boss has an 
> HP that looks similar to a Macbook but its plastic so its lighter and doesn't 
> burn your legs. If I'd known about it when I got my mac I'd never have gotten 
> what I've got now.
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

[Clay via Mercedes]

I have been deemed incongruous with the decor.  Place was purchased without 
consideration for addition of more than SWMBA and #2 boy, so no spare space to 
stake out.  Guest room is now off limits to maintain client secrets.  She does 
scamper away to the secure location, slamming the door, in the middle of calls.

I could look in to setting up a fainting lounge in the heated crawl space to 
keep from bonking my head on the joists.  Awful dark there, and not sure 
outlets are down there.  Maybe a slew of tuffets and giant pillows?  It would 
be rather Addam’s family.


clay 

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about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

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> On Oct 26, 2020, at 5:28 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Bought 2012 MBP for college unit, specifically because it was the last mobile
> upgradeable device from Apple that had no reliability concerns.  Non-retina,
> no auxiliary GPU.  At the time it was the oldest thing they made that was 
> fully
> supported.  It has since been abandoned by Apple, but should be able to
> serve out its four-year hitch running on Catalina.
> 
> I have my dad's 2018 MBP.  Nice enough unit, but I now rarely use it in favor
> of the MP 5,1 upon which I type this.  It is reserved for on-the-road needs.
> I can also jack it (and its dock) into this desktop array, so I can use the 
> big
> monitor and ergo keyboard if I need to, via the KVM switch.  (Backup system,
> since I rely upon this MP for work.)
> 
> Can you _make_ yourself a space?  I acquired a very small old wooden desk,
> top surface 30x16.5", to make a MP workstation upstairs.  Finding an old chair
> narrow enough to go into its footwell took a bit of looking, but once set up 
> this all
> occupied a not very big piece of wall in the corner of the dining room.  
> Retired it
> once full-time WFH kicked in, and I revamped the computer room and moved
> in there.  (Had to displace the big Trinitron monitor, and the G3 and ADB 
> keyboard,
> which tells you how long ago it had been set up.  Also de-fanned the 24x7 gear
> that lives in here with me, making life much more pleasant.  The MP's own 
> fans,
> capable of floating the MP out of the room if on high, never come off idle.)
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

[Clay via Mercedes]

The Firm used to rely upon Lenovo, but some sort of Sino Spy chips got added 
and IT banned them.  Now it is all M$ $urface that leads to weekly calls to 
outsourced help desk and rapid deployment of replacement hardware, since the 
stuff is so bug ridden.

I am out of the hackintosh loop as for which pc laptop is viable in that manner.

clay 

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> On Oct 26, 2020, at 7:04 AM, ned kleinhenz via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In my last job we would get new Lenovo ThinkPads every few years.  I can
> vouch they were very rugged and had nice features for travelling
> engineering and business use.  Except for hard drives, the hardware would
> never wear out.  The operating systems and peripherals would just become
> obsolete.  Of course that was five to ten years ago and I can't vouch for
> the current ThinkPad products.
> Ned
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Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

[Clay via Mercedes]

I did take a peek, it has a much smaller opening in the washroom ceiling and 
not heated at all unless I cuddle next to the drier vent

clay 

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about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

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> On Oct 27, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 27/10/2020 11:18 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I could look in to setting up a fainting lounge in the heated crawl space 
>>> to keep from bonking my head on the joists.  Awful dark there, and not sure 
>>> outlets are down there.  Maybe a slew of tuffets and giant pillows?  It 
>>> would be rather Addam’s family.
>> Heat and space are the two tricky bits, everything else is negotiable.  
>> Light and power?
>> Easy-peasy in comparison, extension cords are your friends.  Orange is the 
>> new Romex...
>> Tacking foam pipe insulation on the corners of the hazards would be easy and 
>> cheap.
>> Overhead flooring with pokey exposed nail tips can be neutered by gluing up 
>> 1" styrofoam
>> boards.   I like the idea of a Festerian refuge...  Maybe you could 
>> occasionally don the
>> appropriate costume when emerging out of there?
>> 
>> -- Jim
>> 
>> 
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> place to make some usable space.
> 
> RB
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

[Clay via Mercedes]

Yes, there is Radon.  I will stick a hose out the vent and breathe through that

clay 

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> On Oct 27, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 26/10/2020 9:14 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> I have been deemed incongruous with the decor.  Place was purchased without 
>> consideration for addition of more than SWMBA and #2 boy, so no spare space 
>> to stake out.  Guest room is now off limits to maintain client secrets.  She 
>> does scamper away to the secure location, slamming the door, in the middle 
>> of calls.
>> 
>> I could look in to setting up a fainting lounge in the heated crawl space to 
>> keep from bonking my head on the joists.  Awful dark there, and not sure 
>> outlets are down there.  Maybe a slew of tuffets and giant pillows?  It 
>> would be rather Addam’s family.
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
> Does Alaska suffer from Radon?
> 
> RB
> 
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Re: [MBZ] My radiator saga ...

[Clay via Mercedes]

The rad in the w140 (92 300SE) was a one off for fitment.  I scrounged a ’94 
rad with same hose locations and sent it off to #1 boy to allow replacement of 
his perished (neck snapped) rad.  The tabs were not in the same place for 
mounting.  No idea why, as the body and engine were same, just needed to 
massage the tabs to install.

clay 


1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
2014 ‘yota Highlander - Haggis

retired models-
1986 SDL - Polei
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1982 SD - Allen
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
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> On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> I have received his (Nissen's) check for reimbursement of the cost of
>> the radiator and shipping. I guess I can now feel free to cut off the
>> extra tab which is keeping me from installing the radiator.
> 
> This brings two thoughts to mind: 1) Perhaps all the happy customers are
> just cutting off the offending tab and not saying anything.  2) Perhaps you
> should not keep the money, if you also do this and are satisfied with the 
> result.
> 
> If the OE radiator doesn't have that tab, why did Nissens put it on in the 
> first place?
> Is there another fitment that does require the tab, and they decided to cut 
> down
> their potential tooling and stocking issues by combining products?  Had they 
> done
> this, I would have expected that the engineers would have included a "cut 
> this off
> if you have to" note in the packaging.  Something still seems odd to me.
> 
> -- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] OT Sleep Apnea and CPAp machines

[Clay via Mercedes]

Neaderthals had much better sinus cavities and breathing abilities.  Current 
edition humans are made for tropical or temperate climes where access to 
copious amounts of food required more energy than hopping into a car and 
trolling the aisles.  

clay 

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> On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So complicated.  I wonder - how did Neanderthals manage their apnea?  Or
> did they just die young in their sleep?
> 
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 10:42 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


clay 

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Re: [MBZ] Covid-19 Prevention

[Clay via Mercedes]

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/exorcisms-performed-in-well-attended-outdoor-ceremonies-following-u-s-protests/

The Swiss know their science.  The Left Coast is getting ready with Santeria 
and chickens

clay 

> On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:23 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> This is a well documented Swiss article about Covid-19 which lists the drugs 
> that are recommended for prevention and treatment.
> 
> https://swprs.org/on-the-treatment-of-covid-19/


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Re: [MBZ] Today's Nugget of Truth

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clay 

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> On Nov 2, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Good one
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2020, 8:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> "Turning back the clocks and adding an hour to 2020 is like getting a
>> bonus track on a Yoko Ono album.”
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] I really just need to stay out of Fakebook groups

[Clay via Mercedes]

Not even the early w140 had OBD.  

Well maybe it did, but you had to read the blinking LED to figure out something 
wanted attention.  None of my SDL had computers.  The 95 E300D had no computers 
I could find.

clay 

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> On Nov 3, 2020, at 1:56 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wow, I've never seen a 1986 Benz with OBD.
> Where's the 34 pin diagnostic connector located?
> Can you post a picture of it?
> (see what he says to that)

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Re: [MBZ] Alien Green 2017 Mercedes-Benz G-Class

[Clay via Mercedes]

Seahawks green if you were in PNW

clay 

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> On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:22 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> very green
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3219778678151426


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Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

[Clay via Mercedes]

Close the loop on this post.

I went with MBP 9,2, as it has the optical drive.  The HDD is good enough for 
now, at 500GB.  Upgrading ram to 16GB, battery has fair life left.  I had 
intended to upgrade to 2TB hybrid drive, max ram and fresh battery, but got 
bogged down with trying to migrate data.

Short of yanking the drive from my current macbook and hooking it as external, 
what other option? I should have done the migrations right off, but the MBP 
came with a factory reset to 10.8.5 and required physical connection.  I spent 
a day dragging the OS all the way to Catalina, thinking it would then allow me 
to migrate, which with El Crapitan it balked (MB is high sierra) saying the MBP 
was too retarded to access the MB drive.  Now it says the MB is too retarded to 
be read by the MBP over wifi.

I suspect it will be much quicker to pull the MB drive and suck data onto the 
MBP.  What holds me back is I am doing all my work from the Macbook, and it now 
knows it is being replaces and has become recalcitrant about responsiveness and 
trackpad/KB input.  Then, I will need to gather all the data from the MacPro, 
once I return to SEA.  Another mess I suspect, as that holds terabytes of photo 
and music.  


clay 

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Re: [MBZ] Like knew Mercedes 2012 Diesel GL 350

[Clay via Mercedes]

VW is moving Bentley to plug in over the next decade.  I can not see sales for 
those, except to oil Sheiks, who will drive them into the ground in a year and 
toss them aside.  Car as appliance, same as dishwasher or computer.  Ash tray 
gets full, trade it in.


clay 

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> On Nov 6, 2020, at 12:22 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Don't these newer Mercedes scare you? I would think the only way to drive the 
> new ones is to lease them or buy and then get out of them before the warranty 
> is up.
> 
> This applies not only to Mercedes obviously but to all makes. They all want 
> to install electronic stuff that will not stand the test of time. Pretty soon 
> the fancy things that you have become accustomed to don't work and cannot be 
> readily repaired.
> 
> My 2013 F150 has Ford's early version of SYNC. They have moved on and can't 
> or won't upgrade the older version. The result is that I no longer have the 
> ability to use the hands' free with my iphone. The dealer tried to get it to 
> work but was unable. Grrr! I guess I need to go back to one of the little 
> doodads that hangs on the visor as I miss the ability to use the phone in the 
> vehicle.
> 
> I drove my 115 300D today (maybe for the last time this fall) and am amazed 
> at how well it works and how simple it seems.
> 
> RB
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

[Clay via Mercedes]

They only share RJ-45 and USB.  After scouring interwebz, looks like removal 
from MB and sticking it to USB 2 cable/sata cord for hooking to MBP to cherry 
pick files.

clay 

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self-recrimination and wetness.”

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01/09/2020

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 1:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Do both have firewire or thunderbolt? Get the appropriate cable and boot one 
> into target disk mode.
> That saved my bacon when my last MBP died...
> 
> -Curt
> 
>   On Friday, November 6, 2020, 4:34:04 PM EST, Clay via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Close the loop on this post.
> 
> I went with MBP 9,2, as it has the optical drive.  The HDD is good enough for 
> now, at 500GB.  Upgrading ram to 16GB, battery has fair life left.  I had 
> intended to upgrade to 2TB hybrid drive, max ram and fresh battery, but got 
> bogged down with trying to migrate data.
> 
> Short of yanking the drive from my current macbook and hooking it as 
> external, what other option? I should have done the migrations right off, but 
> the MBP came with a factory reset to 10.8.5 and required physical connection. 
>  I spent a day dragging the OS all the way to Catalina, thinking it would 
> then allow me to migrate, which with El Crapitan it balked (MB is high 
> sierra) saying the MBP was too retarded to access the MB drive.  Now it says 
> the MB is too retarded to be read by the MBP over wifi.
> 
> I suspect it will be much quicker to pull the MB drive and suck data onto the 
> MBP.  What holds me back is I am doing all my work from the Macbook, and it 
> now knows it is being replaces and has become recalcitrant about 
> responsiveness and trackpad/KB input.  Then, I will need to gather all the 
> data from the MacPro, once I return to SEA.  Another mess I suspect, as that 
> holds terabytes of photo and music.  
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

[Clay via Mercedes]

Yes

Just trying to find the Appstore crap that I purchased is a trial.  Yesterday 
(not catalina) I could see all the things I ever had.  Today, the interface is 
opaque and convoluted and shows nothing I have elsewhere.  I search while 
looking at the applications folder, and find most of it GONE.  Like Firefox and 
the anti virus/spyware stuff.  Productivity, games, lots of things remain alive 
on the MB, but will not find fertile ground in the MBP.

Itunes?  Now I am locked out, so must find a way to import the old libraries.  
And it will not show my store credits.  Says I am flat broke.  Must be because 
I refused to give them banking data for apple pay.

clay 

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Getting our latest acquisition, a MBP 9,2 for my son's college career, 
> brought up to date
> was nightmarish.  We had a failing internal HD cable that was to blame for 
> half of it, but
> once that was addressed Apple's new crop of script kiddies was to blame for 
> the rest.
> It probably would have gone smoothly with rotating media, but a flash drive 
> can now
> ONLY be formatted with the new filesystem, which means things like target 
> disk mode
> (from El Krapitan) won't work.  The new OS installers check, and WON'T work 
> to deliver
> an OS via target disk mode, unlike in the prior decades.  We were unable to 
> 'restore' this
> machine to the state of his prior laptop and then upgrade the OS to Catalina. 
>  (I've done
> that sort of thing before, in past years' upgrades.)  It took me weeks to get 
> the machine
> into the state I expected to be able to reach in a few hours.  It's fine now, 
> and works well,
> but getting there?
> 
> Not Impressed.
> 
> -- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

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The hotswap boot is stuck in SEA.  Just toss your drive in and go.  Like using 
the tape back ups used to be.  Not happy to learn from Jim that target disk no 
longer functions

clay 

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> On Nov 6, 2020, at 4:47 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've got a cool external drive, I think its a Western Digital, that uses a 
> base that is just the normal SATA connectors. So I can pull the base off and 
> use it with just a bare drive if needed.
> -Curt
> 
>On Friday, November 6, 2020, 8:25:59 PM EST, Clay via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> They only share RJ-45 and USB.  After scouring interwebz, looks like removal 
> from MB and sticking it to USB 2 cable/sata cord for hooking to MBP to cherry 
> pick files.
> 
> clay 
> 
> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
> about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
> self-recrimination and wetness.”
> 
> B. Johnson
> 01/09/2020
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2020, at 1:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Do both have firewire or thunderbolt? Get the appropriate cable and boot one 
>> into target disk mode.
>> That saved my bacon when my last MBP died...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Friday, November 6, 2020, 4:34:04 PM EST, Clay via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> Close the loop on this post.
>> 
>> I went with MBP 9,2, as it has the optical drive.  The HDD is good enough 
>> for now, at 500GB.  Upgrading ram to 16GB, battery has fair life left.  I 
>> had intended to upgrade to 2TB hybrid drive, max ram and fresh battery, but 
>> got bogged down with trying to migrate data.
>> 
>> Short of yanking the drive from my current macbook and hooking it as 
>> external, what other option? I should have done the migrations right off, 
>> but the MBP came with a factory reset to 10.8.5 and required physical 
>> connection.  I spent a day dragging the OS all the way to Catalina, thinking 
>> it would then allow me to migrate, which with El Crapitan it balked (MB is 
>> high sierra) saying the MBP was too retarded to access the MB drive.  Now it 
>> says the MB is too retarded to be read by the MBP over wifi.
>> 
>> I suspect it will be much quicker to pull the MB drive and suck data onto 
>> the MBP.  What holds me back is I am doing all my work from the Macbook, and 
>> it now knows it is being replaces and has become recalcitrant about 
>> responsiveness and trackpad/KB input.  Then, I will need to gather all the 
>> data from the MacPro, once I return to SEA.  Another mess I suspect, as that 
>> holds terabytes of photo and music.  
>> 
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>> 
>> 
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> about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
> self-recrimination and wetness.”
> 
> B. Johnson
> 01/09/2020
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

[Clay via Mercedes]

I used to get jiggy with command line and Unix.  Not done it for ages since 
setting and a slew of hackintosh boxes when 43 had the whitehouse.   I no 
longer found it “fun” to go spelunking in hardware and stuff as much as I had 
back with window 286 or the Timex Sinclair

clay 

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about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
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> On Nov 6, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Are you comfortable with command-line (Terminal) stuff?
> 
> Mac OS is unix under the covers.
> 
> Get both machines on your home network. Determine the IP address of the
> new machine. Run an ssh server on the new machine.
> 
> On the old machine, use scp, sftp, or rsync to copy your data to the new
> machine.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Clay via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> They only share RJ-45 and USB.  After scouring interwebz, looks like removal 
>> from MB and sticking it to USB 2 cable/sata cord for hooking to MBP to 
>> cherry pick files.
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
>> about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout 
>> of self-recrimination and wetness.”
>> 
>> B. Johnson
>> 01/09/2020
>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2020, at 1:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do both have firewire or thunderbolt? Get the appropriate cable and boot 
>>> one into target disk mode.
>>> That saved my bacon when my last MBP died...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>  On Friday, November 6, 2020, 4:34:04 PM EST, Clay via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:  
>>> 
>>> Close the loop on this post.
>>> 
>>> I went with MBP 9,2, as it has the optical drive.  The HDD is good enough 
>>> for now, at 500GB.  Upgrading ram to 16GB, battery has fair life left.  I 
>>> had intended to upgrade to 2TB hybrid drive, max ram and fresh battery, but 
>>> got bogged down with trying to migrate data.
>>> 
>>> Short of yanking the drive from my current macbook and hooking it as 
>>> external, what other option? I should have done the migrations right off, 
>>> but the MBP came with a factory reset to 10.8.5 and required physical 
>>> connection.  I spent a day dragging the OS all the way to Catalina, 
>>> thinking it would then allow me to migrate, which with El Crapitan it 
>>> balked (MB is high sierra) saying the MBP was too retarded to access the MB 
>>> drive.  Now it says the MB is too retarded to be read by the MBP over wifi.
>>> 
>>> I suspect it will be much quicker to pull the MB drive and suck data onto 
>>> the MBP.  What holds me back is I am doing all my work from the Macbook, 
>>> and it now knows it is being replaces and has become recalcitrant about 
>>> responsiveness and trackpad/KB input.  Then, I will need to gather all the 
>>> data from the MacPro, once I return to SEA.  Another mess I suspect, as 
>>> that holds terabytes of photo and music.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> clay 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mac laptop

[Clay via Mercedes]

The Mac Pro is/has legacy support.  One of the drives is partitioned with 
obsolete examples of OSX, such that I support the original iPad, iPod touches 
and Classic iPods, as well as stuff as current as 2016.   Everything is paired 
to that computer, which leaves the old and working iTunes able stuff orphan 
when I upgrade to Apple silicon.  

SWMBA got mad at me for snagging the MBP 9,2.  She planned on dumping the MBP 
16” fully loaded as the holiday gift.  I explained that it was last of the 
intel line and I am a rusting, not bleeding edge adopter.  Maybe in a few years 
she can source the ARM based Mac Pro, if they turn out reliable.

clay 

> On Nov 7, 2020, at 3:26 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My iFōn has not talked to a Mac computer for years. iToonz always wants the 
> latest iOS version on everything but I have not upgraded the Mac desktop for 
> a coupla years since whenever I have done that in the past some app or other 
> gorks or disappears. 
> 
> I have an old MacBook I Rejuvenated at some point a few years ago but have 
> not turned on for awhile. I guess I could upgrade it and see if it and the 
> iFōn might COEXIST. I have an ancient iFōn with music on it I use now and 
> then, it has not talked to iOS ever, I think I loaded the music on it maybe 
> 10 years ago on an XP box. Maybe I can get iToonz on this Winders 7 or 10 
> laptop I have and see if it will talk to these various iFōnz. 
> 
> --FT

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Re: [MBZ] OT: juice

[Clay via Mercedes]

Atta Boy!

The best fortified cider I have made was with apples pushed through one of 
those.  Guy I picked up some kia pahtz for BiL from had seven or eight heritage 
trees and found out I make cider, so we got two carboys full.  Used champagne 
yeast and second ferment in bottles.  It was like drinking starlight.


clay 

> On Nov 7, 2020, at 2:34 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My wife and I have been helping distribute food-bank food recently, and
> this last batch had a LOT of apples, some 250#.  Surprisingly, we were able
> to move most of it, but some of us brought home a 5# bag.  Not being big
> apple eaters, and having already bought some for the fruit bowl, I decided
> to juice these.  (They were excellent apples, btw.  Prime in fact.)
> 
> In my misspent youth, we had had neighborhood cider parties where we
> might make 100 gallons in an afternoon.  The equipment used was rudimentary,
> but very effective and fairly efficient.  None of it, of course, rated for 
> food
> handling, especially the garden shredder/bagger that was half the secret.
> 
> I don't have that.  But, I also only had a 5# bag of apples, not pickup loads.
> 
> What I DO have is a Champion juicer.  A thrift-shop find and well worn, but
> working.  (I had to make a plunger stick for it, which was just a scrap pine
> branch.  Cut so its side branches were the depth stop.)  I probably paid $20
> for it 25 or so years ago, before I got married.  My wife wanted it gone, but
> I hid it in the garage instead.  (She wanted nothing to do with the juicing,
> nor presumably the juice either.  So be it, more for me.)
> 
> The apples were small.  I washed them by bobbing in the sink, a much 
> smaller-scale
> operation than the stock tank we used to use, then quartered them with a knife
> and pushed them into the juicer.  Whooosh, and they're gone.  It took me 10 
> minutes
> to do all of them.
> 
> I got maybe 1/2 gallon.  It is excellent, and is now residing in the 
> refrigerator.
> The pomace is outside for the birds.  The juicer is hiding in the garage 
> again.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something!

[Clay via Mercedes]

My w115 and R107 have a strap that secures (poorly) to the trunk lid.  

clay 

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> On Nov 12, 2020, at 2:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> They’ve done this in some form for years. Earlier models like the W140s had a 
> strap with a “T” shape on the end that you place in a slot on the bottom edge 
> of the trunk. W210s have a “handle” similar to this that hooks on the trunk 
> edge.
> 
> -D


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Re: [MBZ] I just discovered something!

[Clay via Mercedes]

Dang, forgot that and confused that with the 116

clay 

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> On Nov 12, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What is the strap for on a W115?  My spare is in the right side well of the 
> trunk. There is no spare tire cover to hold up.
> RB
> 
> 
> On 12/11/2020 5:02 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> My w115 and R107 have a strap that secures (poorly) to the trunk lid.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
>> about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout 
>> of self-recrimination and wetness.”
>> 
>> B. Johnson
>> 01/09/2020
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 2:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> They’ve done this in some form for years. Earlier models like the W140s had 
>>> a strap with a “T” shape on the end that you place in a slot on the bottom 
>>> edge of the trunk. W210s have a “handle” similar to this that hooks on the 
>>> trunk edge.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Crazy Real Estate

[Clay via Mercedes]

Talking with realtors to off load the SEA home.  This place has lost its mind.  
I am being told that inventory is so tight I should expect bidding wars and 
escalations of $200-300K over asking.  I just got home last week and already 
two agents want to tour and give me market analysis.  I did not contact them, I 
think my phone is listening when I was talking to a neighbor

Clay


inter urinas et faeces nascimur

> On Mar 16, 2021, at 3:37 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just looked at some real estate figures for the Tampa St. Pete area last 
> night:
> 
> 13.4% increase over the last year in closed sales
> 
> -58.6% change in inventory in the last year
> 
> 15.4% increase in median sale price in the last year
> 
> It’s crazy. We’re seeing home prices in our neighborhood skyrocket. What was 
> a $300k home last year is now listing and going under contract in 2-3 days 
> for over $400k. A great market if you’re selling.
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Crazy Real Estate

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There is a very soft “offer” floated this week of $1.1M prior to listing.  Once 
it gets out into the MLS wilderness, then the circus begins and the six figure 
bumps kick in.  Up to SWMBA to decide if she wants three rings or a quiet sale

Clay


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> On Mar 16, 2021, at 9:00 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you're thinking of selling, sell now to the suckers fleeing from
> Cali. Get your money before the crash.
> 
> They are offering tens or hundreds of thousands over ask just to "avoid
> negotiations"
> 
> Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Crazy Real Estate

[Clay via Mercedes]

Too small for SWMBA to cover.  Her deals are for mines and oil field real 
property deals.  Selling a house bewilders her.  As for effort, I can spruce up 
the place a bit.  Doing “business” is outside my bailiwick.  Tend to be a bit 
acerbic and terse when dealing with standard humans.  Best that a glad handler 
provide smooth interactions.   Recent adverse event is pointing to early onset 
mental decline.  Simpler for long distance deal having intermediary once the 
place is cleared out and minor fixes applied


clay 

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> On Mar 17, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Flat fee service if that works for you. We’ve sold a couple of homes this way 
> when we wanted to be on MLS. Around $500 for the selling broker, you 
> determine the buyer’s broker’s commission - we usually pay 2%, which no one 
> has yet to turn their nose up at. The listing broker handles all of the 
> showings, scheduling, contracts, etc., you literally do nothing but get the 
> place ready to show.
> 
> In your market if you’re willing to invest the time, I would consider FSBO if 
> you’re looking to net the maximum out of the sale. It involves a lot more 
> effort on your part, but the proceeds that you would net by doing so would be 
> considerable considering the selling price of the home.
> 
> In your market you’ll also want to list “as-is”, meaning that’s how the 
> buyers are getting the property, you’re doing nothing in the way of repairs 
> or fixing up. As hot as your market is, people will still go for it and pass 
> on any inspections or remediations if something is found that isn’t a major 
> issue, like structural or something to that effect.
> 
> If you go FSBO find a good real estate attorney to handle the transaction. 
> Money well spent. Might cost you a grand or two at most, I’m guessing. Having 
> an attorney do everything really greases the wheels and prevents any 
> dust-ups, as people are very reluctant to cause trouble when an attorney is 
> involved, especially at closing.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:28 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes what did Dan say about listing his old house? Flat fee listing service?
>> You definitely do not need the marketing help of an agent. Keep the 60k.
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 12:11 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I suggest a quiet sale, with no real estate brokers, go directly to the
>>> best title company in your area and pay no real estate broker fees, put it
>>> in your pocket instead. The title companies are the people that make it
>>> happen, with all the legal documents and whistles,  even if you use a real
>>> estate broker, you just pay them [in most cases] 6% of the sale price.
>>> 
>>> On a !,000,000+ property, that would build you a nice Mercedes garage at
>>> your new place... [Just a suggestion.]
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 9:29 AM Clay via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There is a very soft “offer” floated this week of $1.1M prior to listing.
>>>> Once it gets out into the MLS wilderness, then the circus begins and the
>>>> six figure bumps kick in.  Up to SWMBA to decide if she wants three rings
>>>> or a quiet sale
>>>> 
>>>> Clay
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 16, 2021, at 9:00 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you're thinking of selling, sell now to the suckers fleeing from
>>>>> Cali. Get your money before the crash.
>>>>> 
>>>>> They are offering tens or hundreds of thousands over ask just to "avoid
>>>>> negotiations"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Allan
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[MBZ] Probably more appropriate ...

[Clay via Mercedes]

for Banned

Could it be bad gas?

The 450SL had a full tank of no ethanol and sat alone since 2019.  I am back 
home and took her out for a spin.  Cold running is perfect, but once we get up 
to temp, she gets the vapors and seems to have massive flattus when the go fast 
pedal is applied.   

I ran her down a few gallons and tossed in some Marvel Mystery, as well as 
Lucas juice in hopes of better results.  Then took her for more vigorous trips 
until I had half a tank of space to put fresh fuel.  Still runs like crap once 
at temp.  

This is ’73 M117 D-jet (fully sorted with new injectors) that ran like a charm 
on no alcohol fuels prior to being stuck by WRD.  Cold fuel is all good, vapor 
issues when warm that were normal only for hot starts but did not persist with 
good fuel.  Now it hates me.  Should I just run the tank close to dry and put 
fresh ethanol free fill up or worry there is more to the story?  I probably 
have maybe two tanks of fuel that will pass through before she sells.  WRD is 
putting a cramp on social gathering where I would take the SL.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Crazy Real Estate

[Clay via Mercedes]

house I lived in while in Guatemala back in the day had a 1k gallon below 
ground tank that accepted city water during the rains, but too small for the 
dry season.  We installed a pair of 5k above ground tanks and the firetruck 
would stop by at least once a month to top them off.


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> On Mar 19, 2021, at 8:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Heh. Most of the houses I’ve seen tanks in have 1000 gallon tanks, and often 
> more than one. I’ve wondered what that sort of load is like on the floor in 
> the basements? That’s four tons of weight in a fairly small area.
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Clay via Mercedes]

Racist and elitist agenda against the working class people who are living 
paycheck to paycheck or just slowing going deeper into debt.  The bottom rung 
of the populace struggles to survive and the racist elites erect blocks against 
their survival at every turn.

A person should be able to effect repairs upon their property and effects 
without undue hinderance by the ruling class and Karens.  IF you plan on 
curtailing the lower class from seeking continued survival, just go out and 
kill them outright and be open about the repression.  Being poor does not look 
pretty, but there are more people groveling at the bottom of the pile than 
those who can afford to visit the dealership or pay for a repair that could and 
should be able to be done at home.

My home may have been unsightly when I was basking in multiple bottom feeder 
Benz that were glad to be roadworthy by my own wrenching.  Had I been required 
to/mandated they be professionally service, there is no way I could have kept 
any of them driving or available for another owner to love and service them.

A pox upon California, may it be swallowed by the sea and its populace of 
elitist be consumed by plague.

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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 7:38 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Max I think you're highlighting the issue. Basically out here there are
> millions of people who will repair their cars in their driveways for weeks
> on end and without paying any business taxes for operating a business out
> of their homes if they are fixing other people's cars for money. Lots of
> places have zoning laws prohibiting this sort of thing. The housing density
> out here can also be pretty high, so if your neighbor has three old
> nonfunctional cars in his driveway and it is a foot away from your lawn,
> you might want them out of there also. Anyway I think the problem is
> potentially far larger out here than anyone in your part of the country can
> readily imagine. Sacramento area has a couple million people. Many are
> pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per house,
> trying to keep their overhead as low as possible, e.g. fixing their own
> stuff. I think it is designed to keep entire neighborhoods from looking
> like junkyards.


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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Clay via Mercedes]

Seattle  has become a backwashed P trap of California.   Same lack of laws and 
mindless sheeple trudging toward the slaughter.  The elite take no care of the 
“mandates” though they dutifully muzzle while seen in public.  Today, while 
power washing the vast estate, I saw at least 40 high end cars and must have 
been 100 people of all ages from toddlers to nonagenarians congregate at a 
neighbors home.  The idiot Goobernator and his minions declaim that only 10 
blood relatives in their genetic bubble are allowed to gather.  Not being a 
Karen, I just kept on with my task and sniggered at the hypocrisy.


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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> California is three different worlds.  There is the wealthy coastal strip
> like Palo Alto, Santa Barbara, etc., there are the big cities, and there is
> a rural interior.  Laws are enforced selectively.  If you can't (or won't)
> pay the fines then administrative laws don't apply; enforcement agencies
> learned not to waste their time.  In the biggest cities property crime (and
> other) laws are not enforced, literally.  Crimes within illegal and homeless
> communities get little attention.  Only wealthy and gated areas get what we
> would consider normal law enforcement.  
> This is not an accident.  Between stupid and arrogant one-party control and
> Soros backed DAs, CA has changed, and not in a good way.  As one example:
> when I moved there in 1976 CA had the top public schools in the country, now
> they are in the bottom two or three.  
> CA will get a big bail-out in the $1.9T (so-called) COVID relief bill but
> that won't last long.  And that $1.9T is coming from you and me and anyone
> that owns dollars (in the bank, in retirement accounts, bonds, etc).  The
> recently-posted FRED chart on M1 money supply (which was before this
> bailout) tells that story..

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Re: [MBZ] The car does have a salvage title but has been rebuilt -- Mercedes diesel 40 mpg 397 wtq - $4, 700 (Charlotte)

[Clay via Mercedes]

The current state of civilizations decline confirms to me that analog tech is 
superior to all the whizbang computer gimcracks.  Witness the TX debacle.  A 
home with a wood burning fireplace, and other “old fashion” resources would 
have been an adventure, but not the catastrophic event that engulfed the 
populace.

clay 

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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 5:48 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  > wrote:
> 
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  > writes:
> 
>> I just saw where the Volvo plant in the region here is shutting down 
>> production because they can't get microprocessors. I'm not sure what 
>> that's about, I need to read up on it
> 
> Wonder how that impacts their plans to go to all EVs? I'd guess EVs have
> even more microprocessors than conventional cars, with all the regen and
> battery management.
> 
> The W123 300D is looking better and better.
> 
> Alla


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Re: [MBZ] OT the United Nation's has my parcel, can someone pick it up for me plz

[Clay via Mercedes]

Selling the old homestead this Spring.  I am marveling at the obsolete tech 
hooked up to the outside wall.  Landlines that no longer serve with attendant 
box.  Cable TV multiple incursions that are no longer pertinent,  Fiber from 
the pole that has not been active for three years, and the Direct TV dishes on 
the roof.  The advent of 5G is just around the corner, but that is all some 
magical wireless box o’ wifi for all I can tell.  Still have far too many cable 
and wires terminating at the house that serve no purpose.  

BTW, the cell Service at my home is garbage.  I have to use the cell hotspot 
for interwebz.  I did a speed test and came back with 0.06 down stream.  
Upstream was almost 0.20 with the 4G vzw.  Ping in the 54 range.

Time to find a tropical paradise and tell the world to take a rolling leap at a 
F’ing donut.


clay 

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> On Apr 1, 2021, at 10:22 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Same here - I now don't answer a number I don't recognize.
> 
> We lost caller-ID when we went to the minimum-cost plan.
> Lost the voice-mail system too, but the old 900MHz phone
> had a message-taker function in it that we turned back on.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Blood Tests

[Clay via Mercedes]

Life is short.  I was getting marginal test results and carried some excess 
mass that the Medico would give me stink eye about, but no preaching, just 
shared my numbers so I could ignore or maybe take my own form of action.

A few years ago I figured out that a vintage/older/classic chassis may no 
longer require the alimentary supplementation of a younger and 
growing/developing critter, so cut back to a single daily meal.  Slightly well 
rounded on a weekly metabolic nutrient basis (multi vitamin and ignore the five 
of this, six of that, daily calorie/vitamin/fruit/veggie/meat/starch food 
pyramid scheme).  Drink plenty of fluids and eat what you like within the one 
meal every 24 hours.  Still have a breaking of fasting and tiny “treat” or 
small snack each day, but there is real hunger and not just boredom and rote 
three meals.  Eating only when truly hungry and fasting, since old folks 
require less sustenances.

Last few annual physicals have had significant reductions of “troubling” (MD’s 
assessment) test results.  BP is lower, cholesterols are much lower (to the 
point the doc stopped trying to push statin), blood sugar is way down, and just 
more “fit” at least on paper.  

I still indulge with bacon, fats, ice cream, and the other supposed “bad” food. 
 Same old Garbage In, Garbage Out, but with less of it, the results on tests 
show I am super more healthful.  It did result in a loss of 20 kilo of 
un-required mass.  My meals are satiating and rich enough to please.  I think 
it boils down to moderation as one ages.  Grab that donut, eat the bacon, eggs, 
sausage and gravy, whatever makes your soul happy, but not at all hours of the 
day every darn day.  Nobody performs the labors that a rural agrarian diet 
required anymore.  We sit on our duff consuming netflix with a quart of rocky 
road and a package of Oreo after Zoom calls while our butts go numb.

YMMV, just take the time to figure out what your specific lifestyle requires 
and amend your consumption and activity to satisfy the need.  Eat a Twinkie if 
it makes you happy, just not the whole damn box in one sitting.

clay 

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> On Apr 1, 2021, at 2:05 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I had a recent comprehensive non-fastin blood test done recently.
> Some of my results are:
> 
> 
> What is youse guys experience?
> 
> How should I modify my diet?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Craig
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[MBZ] It takes a special sort

[Clay via Mercedes]

to fly in Alaska.  Last week it was the helo crash that took out the richest 
man in the Czech republic.  This weekend another adventure

https://apnews.com/article/alaska-mountains-north-america-anchorage-storms-acaba1c4ee54bee8b5cf937dcb24d419
 


Aircraft just fall out of the sky like clockwork.  SWMBA reported that a plane 
went down just a few blocks away from her house after it failed to take off 
well in Anchorage.


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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Kaleb green mercedes benz

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I am soo tempted.  Except I got rid of the massive pile of spare parts

clay 

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> On Apr 9, 2021, at 10:55 AM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/d/portland-1981-olive-green-mercedes-benz/7303303023.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT Home and auto insurance

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Liberty is in the class of company (Family) I will avoid like plague.  Mostly 
because their drivers have impacted my cars, causing expensive damage and their 
adjusters and whole method is to screw over the aggrieved party by holding out 
for as long as possible, creating all manner of inconveniences, such that after 
five weeks of getting nowhere, you just cave and have your own policy cover the 
damage.  You end up out your deductible, have the car off the road for months, 
and feel poorly about the whole mess.  Whichever umbrella company liberty falls 
under, their insureds have taken out the w124, caused mass damage to the w220, 
and caused the w126 SD to be totaled, tried to have it hauled away after hours 
from the body shop, and I ended up footing the bill out of pocket to get them 
to back off, contacted personal injury lawyer to get after them, and ratted 
them out to state insurance commissioner, who penalized them over multiple 
illegal actions. I had to use my own coverage for the extensive medial claims, 
and their adjusters hounded me to close out the claim, even though there is a 
three year window for addressing the bodily harm.

If you do not mind having criminals insuring your belongings, get liberty.  I 
am sticking with USAA

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> On Apr 13, 2021, at 6:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Has anybody had Liberty Mutual or State Farm?  So far it looks like it is 
> coming down to those 2?  I need to verify if the Liberty numbers are real 
> though as the home owners number almost seems to good to be true.  I will 
> still probably see if I can find an independent agent to work numbers for me 
> and will see what USAA has to say before doing anything.  I suppose I could 
> also do a phased approach and keep my primary home and autos with USAA for 
> now and just move the rental house somewhere else and see how it goes.  Most 
> of these online quoting tools want you to call them about rental houses and 
> wont do an online quote.
> 
> 
> USAA  1269.55 4369.77
> 
> 
> Liberty   1045.98 1743.48
> Allstate  494 4464
> Farmers   933 3146
> State Farm983.51  2978
> 
> 
> On 4/12/2021 9:06 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> One thing about insurers that feature low rates as their main selling
>> point (and I don't know if this applies to Geico in particular) is that
>> they will drop you like a hot potato the moment you have any kind of a
>> claim.
>> 
>> I'm with State Farm, they are not the cheapest but I've never had any
>> hassle from them, our local agent is easy to work with, and we've had a
>> few non-trivial claims over the years.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> I know this has been discussed before but I am currently with USAA for 4
>>> cars and 2 houses.  For the last year it seems, both the auto and both
>>> houses have been going up.  Last couple of renewals on the houses they
>>> have gone up substantially.  For example, one house used to be less than
>>> 2k a year and is now up to $3k.  The main house was something like $2500
>>> a year, and it is now over $4k.  I am starting the process of getting
>>> online quotes again (I did this about a year ago) and just now ran
>>> Geico.  For the 4 cars I currently have full coverage on the GL and the
>>> 02 Silverado.  I am thinking I should probably just carry liability only
>>> on the GL as I only paid $5k for it.  Anyway, so far the Geico quote
>>> came in at half the USAA price for auto, but home owners was about $1k
>>> higher.  I am going to get quotes from every place I can think of and
>>> compile it all on a spread sheet to compare.  Anybody been down this
>>> road?  I am afraid I may drop USAA for a cheaper price then the new
>>> company jacks me up again. I guess I can always go back to USAA.  I am
>>> just surprised how expensive they are getting and I have not had any
>>> sort of home or auto claims in many many years.  I should probably make
>>> a claim for hail damage to roof on our other house.  Anybody got
>>> companies I should check out?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: vaxxed

[Clay via Mercedes]

#2  boy got the Johnson poke, #1 son was to get his Johnson Thursday, but ….

I am going to wait to see how all you guys end up before I risk my health on an 
emergency authorized experimental inoculation.

clay 

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> On Apr 14, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Knowing that everyone on the list is getting vaccinated I can now sit
> closer to my desktop display.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 3:36 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> 
>> I asked for extra micro chips...
>> Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>>  On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 2:58 PM, Dimitri Seretakis> >
>> wrote:   Oh no the government is going to track you now! That pesky
>> microchip hahaha! I had no ill effects from mine btw beyond a mildly sore
>> arm.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2021, at 2:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just got a Pfizer jab. The paperwork was more than the shot. I'm at a
>> group site and it's an almost military operation. There were probably 100
>> people in line when I got here but the whole operation took 45 minutes from
>> the time I turned off the road to now. Parking took longer than the time
>> from starting paperwork until the stick.
>>> Curt
>>> 
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[MBZ] MMO = OK

[Clay via Mercedes]

I did an oil level check on the R107 (sat for 15 months during Caramba plague) 
before heading out for Thai with my mother who lives 30 miles away.  The car 
has been sitting in the garage since Xmas 2019, and I did pull it out for the 
neighbor real estate guy to get a look at it while he was pitching me on hiring 
him to peddle the homestead.  Anyway, only vehicle in the stable and I had yet 
to get it out long enough to warm the oil for changing.  Found it was just a 
tad low, about a pint would fix it enough for the drive.  I checked the stock 
of M1 and found I had just enough to effectuate a change, not enough to top off 
as well.  I did have a bottle of Marvel Mystery Oil, so I tossed that in with a 
plan to do the change when I got home.

On checking, the oil looked to be a nice amber on the dipstick, and the red MMO 
did not change that color when making sure there was enough lube to keep the 
engine happy.  Had a fine meal and visit with nonagenarian matriarch and drove 
home.  As I took the off ramp, the engine displayed that overly heated 
underhood D-jet vapor sputters.  It was a warm day and traffic had been heavy, 
but engine temps had remained below 180.  Pulled into the garage and popped the 
hood to allow access for the topsider to do its job.  Got it sucking and out 
comes this pitch black goo.  The M1 15-50 was akin to oil extracted from my 
diesels, not a vergasser.  The filter was saturated with black, as if it had 
been overwhelmed trapping the schmutz.  The MMO seems to have scrubbed passages 
and places carbon crud had been hiding.  

I cleaned out the filter body, installed the fresh Mahle, and poured in 8 
quarts of fresh M1.  Gave her a little time to allow it to flow all the way 
into the pan, then lit her off to get the new fluid throughout.  Checking the 
dipstick, and almost right on the mark for full, clean as a whistle, and when I 
took her to get fresh no alcohol fuel, she ran like a Singer sewing machine.


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Re: [MBZ] MMO = OK

[Clay via Mercedes]

I have not done much at all other than getting fresh fuel and the oil.  My 
tools are packed and heading out of state, so I am limited in what I can do.  
Battery was on a tender for those 15 months.  I checked ATF and PS fluids and 
added as needed.  Brakes will want a flush, but that will be for the next 
owner.  

There are five trugs of parts and replacements that accompany the SL.  Full set 
of pad and rotors, valve covers, spare headers, gaskets and seals, headlight 
surrounds and tail lights, fluids, filters, and all manner of things that I had 
ready on hand in case I needed them or had yet to get around to changing out, 
like the AC compressor.  Spare fuel pump, seat pad for passenger, just a bunch 
of things that when my indy still had a shop I was forbidden to work, as I 
would end up dragging my screw up to him for proper repairs.  

With the great weather hitting PNW this week, I am going to give her a wash and 
wax/sealant beauty treatment, since her outing in December ’19 did not allow 
for proper detailing.

clay monroe

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2014 ‘yota Highlander - Haggis

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1986 SDL- Polei
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1982 SD - Allen
1976 300D - Das Blei - Lead Sled
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life against a dame in a SUV
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> On Apr 18, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What else did you do to the car to get it sorted after it’s dormancy?
> 
> I’ve always wondered what the MMO does
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] The deal with cats, or lack of

[Clay via Mercedes]

I am pretty sure SEA is supposed to have a gestapo to handle metal trades.  
Before the Current Plague, the copper theft was really hot here.  To the point 
the idiots were taking live high tension wires and any other under secured 
copper.  

Scrap cars were getting around $35/ton and the yards were no longer sending 
wreckers out to collect, as it cost them too much to bother.  Now, most of the 
yards are closed down, even though PnP remains open, as it is an Essential 
business.

Clay


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> On Apr 18, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In theory at least, I'm all for making it impossible for the sawzall gang to 
> sell their stolen converters, A/C coils, home plumbing, etc. The permitting 
> system you mention seems aimed at that.
> Mitch.
> 
> On 2021-04-18 13:18, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> Here in SC you have to get a permit to sell anything other than iron.
>> Doesn’t cost anything, sheriffs issue them. You have to show it when
>> you go to the scrapyard And they make a record


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Re: [MBZ] OT: truck prices

[Clay via Mercedes]

I have been looking at bottom feeder box truck for hauling #1 boy’s possessions 
from house we are selling to him in ND.  Pickem up and enclosed truck/van 
prices are still up there.  I do notice a number of commuter cars around the 
neighborhood that have not been moved for at least a year.  Everybody is camped 
at home with face diapers and not at work.  White privileged Tesla area, not 
“essential” workers around here.

SWMBA is in the market for a new car and is having a hard time not wanting to 
be stuck with generic red/white/black/grey.  She was told by one dealer that 
she could special order, but with the caramba virus and the chip shortage, the 
car in the color she wants would arrive around 2025.

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> On Apr 18, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe for bottom feeder scrap trucks. The semiconductor shortage is still 
> alive and well, and so is the shortage of new vehicles. My understanding is 
> that the display driver chips are what is in short supply. I could be wrong. 
> The lack of new inventory means more demand for near new or vehicles less 
> than three or so years old.
> 
> The bottom feeder cars seem to still be reasonable, although there is 
> probably some upward pricing pressure, due to government stimulus and 
> additional unemployment benefits.
> 
> Housing prices are through the roof too, due to increased lumber costs, pent 
> up demand, and a flight from urban areas. It will be an "interesting" next 
> several months.
> 
> 
> Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Weird interior colors 1973 Mercedes Benz SL Convertible - $5, 495 (Cheraw SC)

[Clay via Mercedes]

Not looking like my SL with leather.  The leather is perforated and there are 
side bolsters that are solid.  This car is just plain pleated across.  Must be 
a recover, but in a hide that seems to match the rest of the trim

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> On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I would guess the seats have been recovered. They don’t look original, at 
> least that pattern doesn’t look right. I’m not that well versed on 107s, so I 
> could be wrong. Being a convertible, the interiors can get ratty in short 
> order if the car spends a lot of time with the top down and exposed to the 
> elements.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 4:42 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/cheraw-1973-mercedes-benz-sl-convertible/7308823042.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Pressure washer funs

[Clay via Mercedes]

I have taken a pressure washer to a house for paint prep.  Best to do it a week 
before you are expecting much warmer weather, so it can dry out.  Use a very 
wide pattern so you are not eating into the wood.  Take your time and slowly 
pass over the walls.  Aim downward and start from the top.  I learned from the 
mistakes I made.  You still will need to scrape, as the washer lifts big stuff 
off.  A surfactant solution is a good idea for helping dirt let go.  Lots of 
drop cloth to catch the gunk that comes off to keep it from collecting in the 
plantings.

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> On Apr 18, 2021, at 5:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have any of you used a pressure washer to prep for painting a house? What 
> with the price of lumber being what it is I'm probably not going to be 
> seriously remodeling the house up north this year but it does need painting. 
> My latest plan is to stabilize stuff that would otherwise deteriorate, jack 
> up the sagging front porch, paint the place and maybe replace a couple 
> windows
> 
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] DFW

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The SEA home is now in the flight path of a bunch of planes.  When built in 
1926, the place might have been impacted by the Navy base over the hill with 
their flights, many that ended up in the lake instead of runway.  Base left 
about 50 years ago, so that did not impact.  There are float planes that go 
over from their base to downtown every morning and evening, not that 
bothersome.  The adjusting of the flight path to SeaTac did cause an increase 
of noise.  But the engineering of engines has decreased it.  The folks who used 
to live right alongside the airport raised a fuss and that caused the paths to 
be changed so lots more folks got the enjoy jet noise.

ANC house is a few blocks from the runway and there is one that has the cargo 
747 go by right outside the window.  I hear the darn things spooling up at 0300 
(but they make noise all through the night.  There are a number of speedy homes 
that share my joy.  Not to mention the waterfront homes on the lake with their 
float planes buzzing like flies all summer and sometimes even swapping out skis 
so they can operate in winter as well.

I am not a flight aficionado, but thems are the breaks.   As more people want 
homes, more places that are not conducive to living beside them will be built 
up.

clay 

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> On Apr 19, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Every time I fly into DFW it seems a new addition of houses are being built. 
> It’s funny they are building these brand new houses right by the airport or 
> in the flight path of planes taking off and landing. Will these people then 
> start bitching about airplane noise when they move in? That seems to 
> typically be what happens. I know it Tulsa there were a LOT of old 
> neighborhoods near the airport that they bought out about 30 years ago and 
> tore down all those houses due to noise. All these houses were there before 
> the airport in this case. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Clay via Mercedes]

Just signed a listing for my humble dojo.  Realtor thinks seven figures, easy.  
Older Tudor style, so you either love classic, or you are going to knock it 
down and build to within inches of the lot line.

Around me, the homes are predominantly post war suburb 50s/60s architecture on 
largish lots, smaller home.  Big enough lots are being divided and getting a 
pair of homes, or accessory units.  There is lots of growth potential in that 
part of the market.  Other owners are building out their existing homes to 
fullest size for the lots.  That will cover them for maybe the next pair of 
decades until they have to retire.  No idea who will be able to afford these 
multi-million boxes at that time.

Mom has made 20x on her investment in a basic box home since 1967.  I have 
realized 5x return in the past quarter century.  I have a hard time seeing this 
house offered for $5mm in 2040.  Nobody could afford to purchase, though the 
neighborhood a kilometer away this house would be selling for twice my ask.  
Maybe by then inflation will be like Zimbabwe.

clay 

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> On Apr 24, 2021, at 7:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  > wrote:
> 
> Time always wins.. in 10 years the 30 somethings will be mid 40's and the
> bubble will have gone bust Who knows what will happen to the "city
> infrastructure" in that 10 years, with the loss of unlimited income from
> high taxes on the people who "escaped" for whatever reason...
> The high priced house they spent big money for is "post bubble" now worth
> much less, and the city they think they miss is still too high to buy
> into..
> 
> I predict some very unhappy people who slap their forehead every morning in
> the mirror and say "What was I thinking?"


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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Clay via Mercedes]

Left coast is hemorrhaging people.  It is so bad the poor people of Uhaul have 
no trailers to rent. At all.  People fled the pacific coast and went inland.  
Closest trailer we could find (to move #1 boy’s things out of the house) is 
about 200 miles away from him.  So, he would need to round trip from ND and 
load up.   I had expected to drive out in the SWMBA Toyota donated to him SUV 
with a trailer and swap for the new to SWMBA Honda that #1 boy would pick up in 
SD.

The national U-Haul estimate of maybe getting trucks and trailers coming back 
to the coast is when midwest college kids head to Kollyfornia skoolz, if they 
are allowing in person learning.   The fee to head east with a truck is over 
$2k, trailer would be almost $900.  To drag a trailer out of MT to SEA is 
running $200.  

Fuel costs are closing in on $4/gal reg.   AK prices for fuel are in the low 
$3.2x range.  The oil gets shipped to WA, refined, barged back north and loaded 
into tank trucks for distribution.  Lucky for me, I am not driving at all here. 
 Will be homeless in two weeks, rolling in cash by July 4.

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> On Apr 25, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> With our rental back on the market we have been flooded with people from the 
> west coast wanting to lease it. Even had offers to pay several hundred above 
> what we have it listed for. I figure with covid many companies have now moved 
> to remote and these people can still keep their jobs and move anywhere where 
> the cost of living is much cheaper. Sooner or later it’s going to go way up 
> here too because of this. That with all the money being printed is going to 
> lead high prices for everything. 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Another one on the DNF list

[Clay via Mercedes]

She was picking a fight with the poor worker.  She should have just kept her 
bluster for her legislative colleagues and voters, worn the diaper for the few 
more times she had to attend the gathering.  At least she is stuck at home, not 
trapped in the capitol.  Maybe she can get a flyboy constituent to carry her.

Clay


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> On Apr 26, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> "Mask tyranny" by Alaska Airlines ground influential state legislator:
> https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/northwest/lawmaker-blasted-alaska-airlines-for-mask-tyranny-now-shes-banned-from-the-only-flights-to-the-capital/?utm_source=marketingcloud&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Morning+Brief+4-26-21_4_26_2021&utm_term=Registered%20User
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Another one on the DNF list

[Clay via Mercedes]

The grandstanding was what I thought at first, but it was for creating a scene 
at the airport and badgering an employee about having to don a face rag.  Then 
making political hay by broadcasting her butt-hurt on social media.

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> On Apr 26, 2021, at 9:33 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Banned from travel not for misbehavior on an airplane, but for criticizing 
> FAA or airline policies?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Another one on the DNF list

[Clay via Mercedes]

They need to get rid of Murkowski.  Probably nothing of any impact will come of 
things, as AK is a complete mess of politics, where they keep erasing the 
actions of the last legislative session, and only fund things one year out.  
Big booms and busts, but now they have lost all gains made in the past decade 
economically.  If you want a VERY stable real estate market with minimal 
appreciation, buy in AK.  You will be pretty close to underwater most of the 
time, until there is a boom, then you can cash out with just enough to break 
even.

Same goes with politicians.  The residents will undoubtedly vote against their 
own interests most of the time.  Always getting ballot measures that will 
constrict the main source of revenue (oil) coming up on a three year cycle.  
Doing it for the “environment”.  Like voting to institute a plague and roving 
murder gangs so the population will be reduced, allowing for more 
disenfranchised to apply for the vacated jobs.

Clay


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> On Apr 26, 2021, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Probably 40  percent of Alaskans support her so I would imagine a secession
> campaign will soon be in the works.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Another one on the DNF list

[Clay via Mercedes]

SWMBA was down for the weekend.  She reports that most of the planes are 
stranded unless they are on a real runway.  Too mushy for ski, too soggy and 
broken ice for the float planes to get around.  Grass tarmac is mire, as the 
permafrost is melting and swallows wheels.

Clay


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> On Apr 26, 2021, at 1:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That’s what I found surprising. More aircraft in AK than cars, and when 
> working up there I dealt with a number of people who commuted by airplane, 
> despite the often lousy weather.
> 
> So why didn’t one of their constituents fly them in/out? No beverage service 
> or peanuts?
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] John Travolta's 450SL

[Clay via Mercedes]

I scrounged a few of the data plates with the manuals at PnP.  The original 
customer names were stamped in the metal.  I think it was so they could swipe 
it like with old school credit cards to imprint on the work orders and 
receipts.   Both Froggy and Gump had the plates.

clay monroe

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
2014 ‘yota Highlander - Haggis

Retired-
1986 SDL- Polei
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1982 SD - Allen
1976 300D - Das Blei - Lead Sled
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life against a dame in a SUV
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> On Apr 26, 2021, at 9:46 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  > wrote:
> 
> Is this a thing? Did MB or dealers ever stamp the buyer's name on the data 
> plate?
> 
> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jasper-summer-fun/7313129578.html 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] very rare Cactus Green 1982 Mercedes Benz 380SL - $8, 800 (Pinehurst NC)

[Clay via Mercedes]

Very pretty.  Same soft top color and body as Froggy.  450SL has green leather 
interior, dunkel grun hard top and hubcaps.  Being let go to highest bidder at 
the estate sale taking place in May as part of the sale of my vast Seattle land 
holdings


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> On Apr 27, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Local MB specialist estimated the worth of the car at $12,900
> 
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/pinehurst-1982-mercedes-benz-380sl/7313148206.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Clay via Mercedes]

A sad reality.  #1 boy is hoping to acquire a plop of land in ND with his cadre 
of buds.  They are thinking farmable parcel and compound for under half mil.  
Four or five investors, as long as they remain on good terms, could pencil out. 
 Too hard to foresee the future to my myopic eyes on that point.  

Thirty years ago, Dad and uncle cashed out my grandads five acres.  Did not 
make a mint, but that developed into a suburban ‘hood with, I think, a dozen 
homes.  Probably not what you want next door.  



---
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> On Apr 28, 2021, at 5:24 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Left coast is hemorrhaging people.
> 
> I noted that the U-Haul sign in downtown Spokane was trumpeting going-west 
> specials.
> That tells you something right there.
> 
> The blind offer letter I just got in the mail is offering me a 6x profit on 
> my bare
> land parcel, after 25+ years.  (Has it really been that long?)  Not gonna 
> happen!
> If I take their word for it, that 10 acres now would cost barely less than I 
> paid
> for the whole 21 acres, and the house.
> 
> My son will never be able to afford a home of his own, at this rate.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Clay via Mercedes]

SEA is allowing/mandating that there be up to three housing units permitted on 
lots within the city.  So, you can build bigger (since they also mandated you 
could not build residence larger than 2k sqft) if you include a rentable suite 
in the main home, and then you can toss another residential unit for renting 
out as “affordable” housing.  

My neighborhood you can get a 400 sqft basement apt for around $1k/mo, the 
garden shack another $500 or so.

Clay


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> On Apr 28, 2021, at 11:58 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Housing prices and rents are out of sight here as well. The city's
> response is mainly demands for developers to build "affordable"
> housing. They are typically ignorant of the realities of economics.
> 
> Allan


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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Clay via Mercedes]

The chinese are swooping in and leveling homes on lots over 0.25 acre.  Then 
they toss up these slim townhomes that are no wider than a garage.  Zoning 
allows for mass density.  Maybe the investor got the property for a million, 
bulldozes and puts up seven units that sell for $1mm each.  One two block area 
close to the children’s hospital he snagged five lots that had 70 year old 
duplexes (formerly nurses and intern housing) and populated them with the 
townhomes.  I counted over 20 units.

Clay


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> On Apr 28, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Californians are destroying any chance an Arizonan has on getting a house 
> here in AZ. I started paying some attention a little over two years ago when 
> we had pretty much decided that we wouldn’t have a condo down here in Phoenix 
> for the winter, and a condo or a house up in the mountains for the summer. 
> Californians were outbidding us Arizonans, and moving here in droves. The 
> main difference now is the people doing all of the bidding on the homes for 
> sale in my neighborhood are investors from California. Not people who want to 
> move here, investors. From CA. Almost without except   They have some pat 
> order saying that they will overbid the highest bidder by X number of 
> thousands of dollars, and when it closes they immediately gut the home, 
> Remodel it to look exactly like any one of the DYI renovation shows on TV, 
> paint the exterior white with gray trim and sell it for 250,000 more than 
> they bought it for. It is ruining my eclectic neighborhood. 
> 
> AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

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I suspect they will need to set up a condominium agreement.  Not my trouble to 
take on.  Grown group of men, let them figure it out, is my view.  SWMBA is a 
helicopter mom, so will most likely make it her affair to meddle in.  Foo foo 
drinks with paper parasols on a beach is my end goal.  Keep me from having to 
use the car in garage for warmth when the massive quake and tsunami strike GWN, 
taking out all civilized remnants.

Clay


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> On Apr 28, 2021, at 9:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Clay via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Four or five investors, as long as they remain on good terms, could pencil 
>> out.
> 
> I'd highly recommend working with an attorney to very clearly define
> what happens if/when any of them "want out" of the deal.
> 
> Allan

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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Clay via Mercedes]

These could be cleared with a black powder pistol.  Shot gun pellets would 
cause trouble to units alongside.

Clay


> On Apr 28, 2021, at 11:15 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> AKA shotgun house down south.
> 
> -Original Message-

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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Clay via Mercedes]

Motley group with half of them heading to M$ jobs in Fargo.  People he met in 
college who all bombed out end of freshman year, late bloomers.  I am going to 
opine that it is wishful thinking for the most part, but I have been proven 
wrong often.   


Clay



> On Apr 29, 2021, at 5:10 AM, dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Clay,
> 
> If they’re not set on ND the former Amish farm I posted in the original post 
> might be of interest. I think it was 100 acres with 60 farmable. Big Amish 
> house and related buildings that need some work and most likely electricity 
> run in them. Outside of Wausau, WI, which is about as temperate as ND, 
> probably better. Under $400k, which seems like a good deal.
> 
> Figure you could lease the farmland to start.
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Clay via Mercedes]

My boy is the electrician, so that works for them.  He  knows some plumbing.  
They also have the heavy diesel mechanic (to keep the generator going) and a 
pair of IT workers.  One of whose wife is going to be in charge of “farming”.  
They boys want their own range on the property, and to have some hunting fun.  
Nobody swings hammers.  If they could source a mason, that could give them a 
sturdy fortified keep.

clay 

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> On Apr 29, 2021, at 6:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> True on the climate, but it’s just as cold. I’ve spent more time than I care 
> to recall in the Wausau area in the winter and it’s not pleasant. Not nearly 
> as bad as the northern plains, however.
> 
> It didn’t occur to me until now that since it’s a former Amish farm there 
> won’t be electricity in the buildings most likely. You would have to go 
> through and “electrify” all of the structures which could be pricey of you 
> had to pay to do it.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Clay via Mercedes]

I want my next house to be designed and built ICF.  I like the idea of the 
structure being capable of withstanding multitude of insults and lasting for 
more than a handful score years.

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> On Apr 30, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2021-04-29 21:49, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>  If
>> they could source a mason, that could give them a sturdy fortified
>> keep.
> 
> With ICF, anybody's a structural mason
> 
> https://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/concrete-cement-masonry/concrete-forms/liteform-reg-8-straight-block-insulated-concrete-form/lf08/p-7919224473478597-c-5653.htm

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Tile Work

[Clay via Mercedes]

Those are really large.   I am not sure they could be cut on a standard tile 
saw.  I had a devil of a time with 12x12 on my saw.  If you rented a large 
commercial rig, maybe there would be enough space to hold them flat.  

Cutting into the ends, as you outlined, it an elegant solution.  I am thinking 
you would still need a 4” diamond blade to excise the inner end of the 
rectangles.  Using the 4” would also allow for putting the hole in one tile.  
The way to keep the tile from fracturing is to use lots of water/lube, tape the 
outline of the opening, cut very slowly with minimal pressure, and keep the 
tile as immobile and flat as possible.  Not a 100% outcome, as there were 
always a few tiles that had weird stress/structural flaws and shattered.  Much 
like glass, there seemed to be points of impact that resulted in breakage if 
impinged upon.

clay 

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> On May 1, 2021, at 9:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wondering if anyone here has experience doing wall tile. I ask because I’m 
> looking at some tile for a backsplash that’s 12” x 18”. Yes, those are big 
> pieces, but we really like the pattern as it’s a three dimensional “wavy” 
> sort pattern.
> 
> I’m wondering how (or if) I can cut the openings for electrical outlets 
> without breaking a tile. The studs are on 24” centers on the interior wall it 
> will go on, so I could potentially space it so the joints are at the points 
> where the receptacles are located, meaning I would just have to cut a 
> rectangular section out on two adjoining tiles (like this: [ ] ) to make them 
> fit as opposed to having to cut a rectangular hole in a single tile.
> 
> 
> 
> -D 
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Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

[Clay via Mercedes]

Maybe the old warfarin based stuff has a history of working, where the new 
stuff is a profit center?

clay 

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> On May 6, 2021, at 6:17 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood clots. They 
> put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this happened in the 
> first place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to figure it out. 
> Went back to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns out I 
> evidently have something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome. They are 
> moving me from Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require me to 
> get blood tests weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I will ask 
> but not sure why they would take me off the newer state of the art blood 
> thinner that requires no testing to this older cheaper medication that does. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Feb 2019. Ran at that time with booster box Mercedes 450SL (1978) - $9, 000 (Camden, SC)

[Clay via Mercedes]

I am selling my Green on Green on Green 1973 SL for maybe half that. It runs 
well, good battery and tires, with a pickup load of extra and replacement 
parts.  A pair of preservation Awards from MBCA and all manner of cool display 
paraphernalia for when you take it for auto shows.

Clay


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> On May 6, 2021, at 7:04 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would offer $10k
> 
> https://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/d/camden-mercedes-450sl-1978/7317678949.html
> 
> -- 
> --FT


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Steel prices have tripled

[Clay via Mercedes]

There is more wood that came over the border in PNW than is harvested locally.  
Most of the mills in WA closed down ages ago, and the lumber companies have 
been pulling back from harvests.  At least that was the case in 2019.  Not 
being in residence the past year, I have not been witness to current mills.  
The processor near my mother’s home was bare of completed/dried/cut lumber and 
the yard was minus the normal inventory of logs for this time of year.

The scrap market in this neck of the woods is a monopoly of Schnitzer which 
sells crushed cars to the CCP.  I am not seeing the standard traffic of trucks 
headed out with dead/squished cars that I used to.  Not been hitting the PnP, 
as I have nothing I need to get there.  Also, they have clamped down on how 
many people are allowed in the yards.  May not be both getting or processing as 
many cars as prior to the current plague.

clay 

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> On May 6, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Good question. The lumber shortage is mostly a shortage of finished
> product. Supplies of timber, especially in the southern US forests, are
> plentiful. There *are* some issues in Canada from what I've read.
> 
> It's the finished lumber that is in short supply. Many sawmills shut
> down expecting vast drop-offs in demand due to COVID and lockdowns. The
> opposite happened, and they haven't caught up yet.
> 
> If it's the same with steel, and the problem is that the mills are not
> running, then they probably aren't buying scrap either so scrap prices
> could conceivably be low even if demand for finished steel is high.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Feb 2019. Ran at that time with booster box Mercedes 450SL (1978) - $9, 000 (Camden, SC)

[Clay via Mercedes]

built 12/1973, so no CAT.  California car.  I am third owner.  Records from 
1987 on, when second owner purchased.  I got it in 2012 from the son of the 
decease owner.  It had 203k on the clock then, it has 215k-ish now.  Serviced 
by local indy who sorted out D-jet issues and installed fresh injectors in 
2017.  He had done the fuel pump a few years before.  I collected all the 
things that I thought it may need or did want fixed, like pass seat cushions, 
replacement for AC compressor, … amounting to a pick up load of 
extra/spare/replacement for the car.  Updates were limited by cash flow, so 
that is why I have stuff in boxes.  Currently sporting Euro lights.  I have the 
DOT lamps in a box.  Replacement lenses for the rear lights in case originals 
get hurt.  Around six or seven large Rubbermaid tubs of R107 things.

Silber Grun body, Dunkel Grun top and hubcaps. Green leather seats (soft 
without cracks) and interior.  The center console was replaced because prior 
owner had butchered it to install Sony radio and in car Cell. Brown soft top 
that works but is getting old, driver side small window has a tear in plastic.  
Got minimal usage in 2019, as I was out half the year.  No usage in 2020 (on 
battery tender).  Got some miles on the clock in 2021, but sitting has made it 
need a tune up to put it back into full service.  Did get oil and filter change 
around 100 miles ago.  Been using non alcohol fuel since 2015 because it is 
less volatile and reduces known hot engine start issues.  Trigger points 
replaced with rebuilt, MAP is good, Djet brain was replaced.  There is a spare 
in the boxes.  Transmission was last serviced 2017 and only 2500 miles since. 
Cooling system rebuilt.

 Been garage kept most of its life.  No accidents while I owned it.  Some 
evidence of prior panel replacement.  Tires are good, alignment done in 2017 at 
211k miles.  Brakes are good, and I have replacement rotors and pads for when 
the current things age out.  This is NOT BaT car, but a reliable rolling 
Preservation Class award car (2x).  It does need the cross over pipe section of 
exhaust replaced, from there back is new since 2015.  Headers and seals 
replaced around that time.

Does 85mph for extended (200 miles) periods with ease.  Does not blow cold air, 
at all.  Does have not original Becker Mexico that pulls in stations when it 
wants.  Power antenna does work, but does not pull in signal well, so has been 
unpowered.  I collected all manner of original dealer literature (sales, paint 
brochure, and on and on)  Even have matchbox example 107 in green paint in the 
glove box.

At the moment it will be included in the estate sale of household goods over 
Memorial Day weekend.

clay monroe

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
2014 ‘yota Highlander - Haggis

Retired-
1986 SDL- Polei
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1982 SD - Allen
1976 300D - Das Blei - Lead Sled
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life against a dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers













> On May 6, 2021, at 6:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK, now I am interested.  Tell me more about this car you are selling.
> 
> On 5/6/2021 8:03 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> I am selling my Green on Green on Green 1973 SL for maybe half that. It runs 
>> well, good battery and tires, with a pickup load of extra and replacement 
>> parts.  A pair of preservation Awards from MBCA and all manner of cool 
>> display paraphernalia for when you take it for auto shows.
>> 
>> Clay
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Re: [MBZ] Hi-test $3.08

[Clay via Mercedes]

87 proof petrol is running $3.98, toss another $0.30 for 93 octane.  #2 in SEA 
is hovering at $3.89 this week.  There is a massive gas tax ($0.27?) coming in 
a few weeks

clay 

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> On May 7, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  > wrote:
> 
> Regular unleaded $2.99 here last night, so premium is probably
> $3.40-ish. Diesel $3.25.
> 
> Allan


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Re: [MBZ] Hi-test $3.08

[Clay via Mercedes]

ANC fuel runs about $0.40/gal less than SEA fuel.  AK sends crude down to WA in 
tankers to the refiner at Cherry Point.  It gets turned into all the good fuels 
and is barged back up north

clay 

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> On May 7, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If I go to Indianapolis, gas is $0.20 cheaper if not more. I guess it's
> closer to wholesale terminals so less transportation is needed, not sure
> what the explanation is otherwise. Unfortunately that's too far away to
> go just for gas, but I always fill up if I'm there for some other
> reason.
> 
> Around here I can usually get up to $0.40/gal discount at Kroger by
> letting them spy on my grocery shopping habits.
> 
> Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Feb 2019. Ran at that time with booster box Mercedes 450SL (1978) - $9, 000 (Camden, SC)

[Clay via Mercedes]

The BaT stuff seems to be cream puffs and Nanaimo Bars with all manner of 
pretty photos and sexy copy.  This is just a good example of a 47 year old SL 
that has been preserved. Maybe I get the wrong impression from the Martha 
methods Dan uses on his BaT exemplars.  It could be equal to many of the SL 
that show up on the site, I might be feeling humble about it, since I know it 
intimately.  It has its quirks.

clay 

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> On May 7, 2021, at 2:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why do you say it is not a BAT car? I have seen a number of cars on there 
> that are far from wonderful.
> 
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] Feb 2019. Ran at that time with booster box Mercedes 450SL (1978) - $9, 000 (Camden, SC)

[Clay via Mercedes]

A bit late to toss it on BaT anyway, I am gone in a week.

clay monroe

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
2014 ‘yota Highlander - Haggis

Retired-
1986 SDL- Polei
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1982 SD - Allen
1976 300D - Das Blei - Lead Sled
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life against a dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers


> On May 8, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I agree.  The List will skim just 10 percent of your net proceeds.
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Re: [MBZ] OT cordless sawzall

[Clay via Mercedes]

I have liked DeWalt.  #1 boy passed on my 20v kit since he has a 40v from work. 
 His opinion is that DeWalt makes the best cordless tool for his electrical 
work.  I liked the yellow tools.  Used my yellow sawzall to remove a bunch of 
PnP sheet metal and went through many blades before the battery died.


clay 

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> On May 8, 2021, at 3:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Anybody got any recomendation for a cordless sawzall?  Preferably some sort 
> of kit that includes a couple of batteries etc.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I don’t have the founds to put on the road 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450sl,$2,105

[Clay via Mercedes]

That does not look like a Djet engine to me just for the air cleaner.  I am 
probably wrong.

Clay


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> On May 8, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Horizon/powder Blue was a very popular color in 1974, 1975 and 1976

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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

[Clay via Mercedes]

Digital leads to fewer workers and more vulnerability.

Analog will give  you much greater employment and the flesh and blood can make 
things happen when lights go out.  Mechanical systems may rust up, but you have 
to kill the operator to make it go down.

clay 

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> On May 9, 2021, at 8:20 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I'm seeing that industries across the board have built themselves a
> particular vulnerability by running their entire operations via computers.
> The number and scope of such attacks have increased, yet, the weakness of
> your entire operation, delivery of product, and profit is all tied to a
> computer system that is vulnerable to attack.
> To my way of thinking, this has evolved into utterly stupid, and it is now
> every industry, not just one.
> 
> Someone, somewhere, can remotely turn off your comfortable life, and stop
> the supply of goods, or services.
> But... hey... nothing to worry about because everyone is good... right?
> 
> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:10 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

[Clay via Mercedes]

That would resolve a host of issues for the cruise ship industry.  AK is going 
to have a massive bust if the boats full of tourist fail to show up for yet 
another year.  Thing were just starting to look up after six years of 
recession, and then the current plague sucked a massive number of jobs in 
tourism out with the tides.  Canada does not allow boats to transit or dock, so 
anybody getting on a boat in Seattle, with Jones act dead, would be most 
welcome in GWN.  Not sure how much more transport of goods northbound would 
make for better living there as well.

Then again, the boats heading south are pretty much deadheading garbage/trash 
and recycling.  Not much of commercial value otherwise.


clay
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minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the 
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the 
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> On May 9, 2021, at 8:27 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I wonder if they (government) will suspend the Jones Act.
> 
> 
> Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

[Clay via Mercedes]

Boeing, flying windows into the ground.

Oil out of AK is still sitting just under $70.   Maybe the price will creep up 
now that there is less fuel making its way to the Mid-Atlantic.  Probably not.  
Bakken remains reasonable.  West TX the same.  Could see a replay of the oil 
mess of last May.  Fuel prices rise, while crude backs up into tanks

Clay


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> On May 9, 2021, at 9:20 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Excellent points.
> Imagine if all the Bombers built at Willow Run Plant were built by Windows
> based  computers...

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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

[Clay via Mercedes]

Sure you can!  Contact all manner of eco friendly municipalities or property 
owners and haul the kids on over.  SEA loves to contract for goat removal of 
offending herbaceous matter.  The bus arrives, the area is fenced off and for 
the next few days goat poop is produced.  Then the kids get back on the bus and 
head off to greener pastures.  Maybe the things could be used to clear homeless 
encampments.  Eat the greens and some trash, ship some hogs in to take care of 
the really nasty stuff… like campers

---
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> On May 10, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We've been talking about goats on the vast northern estate. I wonder if I 
> could make money trucking them south to rent out?
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, May 10, 2021, 12:38:54 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Goats. I’ve seen rent-a-goat services
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Re: [MBZ] 240D 4-speed

[Clay via Mercedes]

Welcome back John.

Could be bushings, but hard to say.  I locked up a manny trying to install 
fresh bushings.  Should have been more careful about not letting the 
transmission end arms move.  With wiggly play in the rods, sometimes two gears 
can become engaged.  I had to secure a fresh working trans to swap in.  Never 
did get the locked up one torn down and rebuilt.

clay 

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> On May 10, 2021, at 1:05 PM, John Ingram via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a ’83 240D 4-speed manual, 300+++ miles.  The shifter is loose and 
> occasionally feels completely disconnected and will not go into any gear. It 
> also locked up in neutral and would not move in any direction.  In between 
> these episodes it works normally.  What is going on? 
> Thank You. 
> John Ingram 
> Maryland
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Re: [MBZ] It’s not a bus but

[Clay via Mercedes]

I was noting that the trailer looks a bit cobbled together with the original 
rounded Scamp body having grown a baby bulb that would be the sleeping spot.  
Really putting a bunch of downward thrust on the hitch.  Maybe it was meant for 
a taller clearance truck?

Looks interesting and cool.  

Clay


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> On May 10, 2021, at 5:15 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That trailer is weird. Why does it have that part that looks like it is for a 
> fifth wheel?  It’s not really big enough to be hooked up like that unless on 
> a mini truck
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On May 10, 2021, at 8:07 PM, Rick Hawkins Java Letterpress Cycles Photon via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Folks
>> 
>> Here’s A new camper trailer I just bought ... I was going to tow it behind 
>> the Isuzu rollback ... I May sell it too. I really want a
>> 13 foot one.  A friend was selling it in bat cave NC  needs some floor 
>> work, but may be worth $12k after that ... I’m cleaning it up and improving 
>> it  highly desirable now ... I paid 4.6k which is too much, but a good 
>> buy in today’s market
>> 
>> Still working on painting and cleaning up windshield hole on dodge sprinter 
>> ... windshield was falling out  I had some window guys remove it and 
>> they will reinstall it when I am ready
>> 
>> Xx rick
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

[Clay via Mercedes]

New adventure in the Clay departs SEA saga.

Yesterday I had a taxi take me to the Port of Tacoma to pick up the car SWMBA 
had sent down from ANC to replace the krap Yeep of #1 boy in ND.  He spent the 
past weekend picking up her new CRV in Sioux Falls.  We are to swap cars on the 
plains of MT this weekend.  The honda heads to GWN on Monday.

Short story long, the Yota was supposed to be serviced in ANC, but time ran 
out, so I schedule it for a shop near me.  Since sending things on a boat out 
of the arctic is a dynamic adventure, it could have been 7-10 days the car 
shows up.  Got lucky and it came early and instead of trying to get it serviced 
5/16 as scheduled (service manager said it could take 2 days to get the work 
done) I begged for dropping it off this morning and maybe they could shoe horn 
it in if they got some slack time.  Big surprise to me, they actually were able 
to do a full service by the end of the day.  

Car was sent with less than quarter tank of fuel and I was pretty sure I could 
get it home and to the shop on the fumes in the tank.  When I picked the car up 
a few hours ago, I went to fuel up for the long drive ahead.  Pulled up to the 
pump and 87 octane is now $4.28/gal.   Crazy.  There are two refineries in the 
state and the oil they process comes out of AK.  Must be sympathy pains for 
rising fuel prices on the other coast.

clay 

“I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

B. Johnson
01/09/2020

> On May 11, 2021, at 5:12 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> A fellow in the retail petroleum business says:
> 
> If people didn’t panic buy like morons. Everyone would en fine.
> 
> 
> 
> The choke point isn’t the pipelines or lack there of.
> 
> It’s trucks and drivers. There is not spare capacity in trucking right now.  
> So over buying means it just can’t be delivered.
> 
> I’ve said this in like 5 other threads. Kinder Morgan PPL line has more than 
> enough capacity. Let alone tankers coming out of Jacksonville or Tampa. Or if 
> you’re in Mississippi or around MS, you have Ergon, Hunt refining, and 
> Chevron.
> 
> In TN you have Citgos refinery.
> 
> 
> There’s plenty of fuel. Just not enough trucks. Chill on the panic buying 
> morons. Especially if you’re not in an affected state.
> 
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