Re: [MBZ] P/S fluid replacement

[Desert Rat]

The way it was explained to me was that the MB's with a serpentine
belt take the special stuff, otherwise AT fluid in all others.

On 10/3/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yes-
My understanding from Rusty and the good Doktor is that ATF is for the
123's-the Febi/Bilstein is for 124's. Not cheap either.
Dwight

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess
1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess
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Before the good Doctor left us he said the OEM stuff Rusty (and MB)
sells is
preferable for the newer MBs.
He said <>



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Re: [MBZ] A real hoot - $69.00 s&h on a fuel filter

[Desert Rat]

There is a "calculate" button on the listing. Put in your zip code and
then say you got to be kidding!

On 10/2/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

OK, what am I missing? I looked and I don't see a shipping and handling cost 
quoted.

Randy

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I sent this one to Ebay for their reviewwhat a jerk!

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>
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Re: [MBZ] A real hoot - $69.00 s&h on a fuel filter

[Desert Rat]

I sent this one to Ebay for their reviewwhat a jerk!

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Re: [MBZ] getting a new Windshield?

[Desert Rat]

Another thought here is to ask your local MB dealer who they use.

On 9/29/06, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I would use with a national chain, e.g. Banner glass, or call your insurance
company for a recommendation.  You will be absolutely thrilled with the
vision afforded by new w/s - go for it.  Unless you are a nut about
authenticity, any US glass (PPG) is an OK substitute for the OEM German
glass.

On 9/29/06, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is there any difference in aftermarket windshields or is all about the
> installer?
>
>
>
> I am thinking about getting a new windshield for my 1990 300SEL. It has
> one small star shaped crack, which doesn't bother me. But, it has so
> many tiny little sandblast marks on it that when the right glare hits
> it, it is very difficult to see through.   I just brought my wife's
> explorer to get a new windshield for the same reason.
>
>
>
> I know other have this done on their Benzes and wonder how the
> replacements are holding up.
>
>
>
> This Kansas wind must be rough on windshields.  Plus, I guess highway
> driving doesn't help either.
>
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
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Re: [MBZ] Accelerator Control W124 '91 300D

[Desert Rat]

Idle with A/C on would drop. Idle control maintains same RPM so it's
working if you don't notice it!

On 9/28/06, Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've wondered this for a long time because I've never noticed an idle up
with AC on.

My 123 never did it and my 124 doesn't.

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] Windsheild Washer Reservoir Leak

[Desert Rat]

Do you have 2 pumps, one being for the headlight washer?

On 9/27/06, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Howdy -
My WW reservior is leaking.  I assumed the pump seal was leaking where it
plugs into the reservoir.  A new seal was placed on the pump then it was
inserted.  Still leaking.  I'm thinking I should insert the seal into the
reservoir and *then* push the pump into the seal.   Maybe that'll work.

Are there any other places the reservoir can leak?  No obvious cracks I can
find -

TIA -

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Re: [MBZ] 450SL status

[Desert Rat]

Wasn't there a "kit" offered by MB to move the cats out of the engine
compartment?

On 9/12/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Have you done anything to the steering damper?

When last I checked it it was good.  Didn't pull it off to
check it this time though.

> BTW, my 240D had a bracket from the AT to the exhaust - the exhaust
> pipe
> eventually broke right where the bracket attached

Seen this, but not on this car.  Visually the exhaust was good,
and I'd long ago convinced myself the problem was not in the exhaust
pipe path itself.

> I have that manifold and CAT sitting in the back yard if you want
> another one -- the brace is solid on this one. the equivalent brace
> (more of a gusset) on the other side is broken from the manifold, but
> you're welcome to it as well. Of course, shipping will be high -
> they're heavy.

No, mine are just fine, now!  The manifold's boss isn't even broken.
My idea, if I kept the car long term, was to eventually replace the
catifold with a more normal one, assuming I could find one that fit.
(I always thought the mating point in space for at least some non-cat
manifolds was the same, but I have no proof of that.)  The improvement
to serviceability under the hood would be unbelievable.  I bet the
underhood heat soak would be lessened a lot too.

I eyed a set of 450 SEL manifolds I saw one day at the U-Pull, but by
then we'd already determined to sell the car so I didn't try to get
them.

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Re: [MBZ] new diesels

[Desert Rat]

Just read somewhere that the 07 diesels aren't getting the new 7 speed?

On 9/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

<>

M, GL and R series will offer the V-6 diesel soon. My friend AC's '07 E320
Bluetec will be delivered in November. He will be selling his pristine '86 300E
(79K miles) at that time.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Demineralised water (was Zerex G-05) in cars that don't need it

[Desert Rat]

Same issue here Hendrik, although our high mineral content with
natural hot water is great for the pools. For that reason,  I use
store bought drinking water for my radiators and batteries. Read
somewhere not to use demineralized water.

On 9/9/06, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

While we are talking cool juice, is it alright to use demineralised water in
conjuntion with coolant? The tap water in Adelaide is notoriously full of
all sorts of crap, I'd drink it but am worried it will leave all sorts of
stuff in the cooling system.

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>> So  by "MB stuff" you mean the actual stuff from the dealer, not a
>> supposedly suitable replacement such as G-05?
>
> Supposedly G05 _is_ the MB stuff.  So the answer to your
> other question is color.  I get it at NAPA.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] To Veggie or Not

[Desert Rat]

I know of a clean one owner 82 or so W123 with 178K miles on it at my Indie.
Nice car and CA raised. Last I saw it, he was asking 5K for it.

On 9/8/06, Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You guys all have great points. I know my 350HP truck will last for
well over 500k miles but multiple that with fuel costs and we are
talking about my son's college fund.

I love driving the truck, nice to look at all the pretty girls. But
driving in a sweet looking MBZ would cool too. Plus I would still feel
very secure driving it.

So I guess my next step is find a clean MBZ with working A/C and I
love my power windows and creature comforts. eBay and Criagslist look
out, oh yeah Auto Trader too.

Anyone got any leads on the left coast?

Rory

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Re: [MBZ] W107 Sub Frame Q

[Desert Rat]

The US R107 350SL in 1972 had the 450 engine but had a 350SL badge so
it would qualify if it is a US model.

On 9/5/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

all 107's have the problem.  The 450SL gets it replaced for free at the
dealer.  The other models do not.  If you need one, I have one available.

Bob Rentfro wrote:
> So...I went and checked up on the old feller who has the '72 350SL. He was 
not home (his wife said he was at the bank counting his money) but she let me look 
over the car. It is sweet. Needs paint, no rust anywhere since it's an AZ car (she 
said they bought it in '73 from a guy going through a divorce), newer soft top, 
new hard top, interior is a little rough, seats have a couple of teeny cracks, 
console is kind of a mess. She said whatever looks like it's missing, he has it. 
Perfect bumpers, no dings, good glass. Not sure about AC or radio (see above). I'm 
drooling.
> My question: is this a model that the subframe is/was an issue? What should I 
look at? I'm going to, of course, ask the fella if he had the subframe repaired, 
if it is one that should have been done. If it is, and he hasn't, can I get it 
done...was it a recall type thing?
>
> She also said when I take the 350SL, she wants me to "take the other one too" 
(some type of 108 I think...I didn't peek under his meticulous cover arrangement) . woo hoo
>
> Bob Rentfro
> '77 300D 158K
> '87 Acura Legend  177K
> Still waiting on '72 350SL  78K
> Litchfield Park, AZ
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Re: [MBZ] Ummmm...this is out of control

[Desert Rat]

Strange how this guy knows all about the # 20 head but fails to notice
that it has a trap oxidixer.

On 9/3/06, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think this is a new all time high bidding war for a 20 year old wagon.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Station-Wagon-LOW-MILES-IMMACULATE-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ150026647366

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Alarm System/electric vacuum pump question

[Desert Rat]

I think the W123 did not have an electric vac pump, only started with
the W126 (in the trunk) and the W124 (under the rear seat).

On 8/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


In a message dated 8/30/2006 8:23:15 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Where is  the vacuum pump located? That is probably
the first place to look for the  alarm problem.



Allan,

I assumed you had an electric vacuum pump as most all MB  from about  82 on
have them.   Kaleb says no and he has a bunch of them. IF you  have one, it
would be in the spare tire well or under the back seat passenger  side.  It will
be enclosed in a triangular shaped foam rubber for  silencing, about 6 inches
on a side and 4 inches deep..

Alarm failures are often blamed on the Bosch module which you will find
under the passenger side carpeting or on the firewall, under the  carpeting.  A
known good spare would be good here.  Another point of  failure is the electric
switch on the drivers door latch, operated by your  key.  When this contact
sticks, the alarm thinks you are being  thefted.  The switch will sometimes
change position in the middle of the  night, setting off your alarm.  Cleaning 
the
switch will often fix the  alarm problem.

Now VERY curious to know if you have an electric vacuum pump

Good luck,

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles
98 ML 320, 145 K  miles

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Re: [MBZ] OT hybrids (was: Re: A little question on biodiesel relavent to this list)

[Desert Rat]

None of the current breed of Hybrids have any external battery
charging capabilities.

On 8/29/06, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ernest wrote:< >>

Not to mention that electrical charging just moves the point of emissions
from the tailpipie to the smokestack/
;-)

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to this list)


> you've touched on another sore point i have with hybrids; (even ignoring
> the fact that none of the hybrids i've seen in use have gotten anything
> like the claimed fuel economy and how long it takes to break even
> financially,) what's to be done with those batteries when they're used up?
> we already have a problem with the disposal of batteries.
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
>
>> The thing is, when you reach the break even point in 10 years, thats
>> when the batteries need to be replaced at a price of what, about 12k?
>> Seems like a loose loose to me on those.
>>
>> Tom Hargrave wrote:
>>
>>> I disagree. The SUVs may be burning a lot of fuel but its our overall
>>> consumption that counts and I see more "regular folks" around here
>>> driving
>>> full size V8 powered trucks than "suit & tie executives" driving SUVs.
>>> For
>>> that matter my Jeep Grand Cherokee (a SUV) gets 21 MPG on the highway
>>> while
>>> my youngest Son's full size Dodge gets 18 MPG on the highway.
>>>
>>> On another note, I don't understand the rush to buy hybrids. All of the
>>> experts are saying that the payback for a hybrid vehicle is about 10
>>> years.
>>> This means that you reach the break even point in about 10 years. That's
>>> not
>>> much incentive for me to buy one.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom Hargrave
>>> 256-656-1924
>>> www.kegkits.com
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone want to buy 4 126 wheels?

[Desert Rat]

Don, sorry if this sounds like a broken record but I have seen so many
listings on Ebay because the wheels they bought didn't fit.

The W126 never offered the 8 hole wheels from the factory, the C class
and the E class did but they won't fit.

There are some aftermarket wheels out there from Tirerack, etc but be
sure you obtain the right offset, etc.

On 8/28/06, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am going to be buying snow tires soon and I think I will upgrade to
the 8 hole wheels on my 126.   So, I would like to sell the wheels I
have.  They are in very nice shape.  Standard 15 hole wheels currently
on my 1990 300SEL.



Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Short??

[Desert Rat]

How old is the battery?

On 8/28/06, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

   My 1981 300SD has developed numerous random electrical features that
seem to point toward a short somewhere, and I am in hopes of a head start on
where to look first.  For the past year I have had problems with the left
blinker flashing continuously when the stem is centered - though it seems to
just barely make the threshold to flash, and both blinkers respond properly
when turned on..  50 or so repitions of the emergency flasher switch do
nothing much for the rest of that day, but the next day it stops and is no
problem for a few weeks or even a month or two.  A couple of days ago the
oil pressure gauge suddenly went from correct operation [as far as I can
tell] to pegging the 3 when the key is switched on.  For the last few months
[about the time my AC started acting up, I think] AC blower seems to run
with the engine speed, as does the brightness of the headlights, though when
I forget the lights are on for an hour [warning buzzer works when it wants
to] I have no problem starting the car, with no hesitation or slowness of
the starting motor.  On occasion I have noted the tach jumping with the
blinker, and I think once it did it with the brake light.  I am hoping this
mixture of random features will click with someone and a suggestion for a
starting spot will come up.  All the fuses were replaced 1.5 years ago,
though with the plastic ones that tend to melt the blower fuse - that one
replaced with a more robust German make fuse.  Replacing the flasher did
nothing at all.  Ideas?
Thanks - BillR
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Re: [MBZ] this auction gives me a funny feeling

[Desert Rat]

Or, how about "fly in and drive this Cadillac home"!

On 8/24/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> did it say that?  I must have missed it.  It has a bad tranny as well.

And that business with the headlights bugs me a bit, too.

It _did_ look like a nice enough car to be a decent fixer-upper.
But then, price is everything on those.

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Re: [MBZ] Need windshield reservoir

[Desert Rat]

OK now, you got a taillight or a washer reservoir coolant insert?

On 8/21/06, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think I got one but A. it has been repaired by me and B. it's located a
long way away.
They are a relatively rare item and therefore not cheap.

- Original Message -
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Need windshield reservoir


> Speaking of needs, does anyone have a used right rear taillight lens for
> my
> 1983 300TD wagon they are willing to part with?  I will make it worth your
> while if the lens isn't cracked...
>
> Andrew
> 1983 300TD
> 1985 300CD
>
>
>
> On 8/17/06, Desert Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, you're right. 92 500SL but all I need is the stainless steel
>> coolant exchanger  which is found on a number of MB's with a coolant
>> coil in the reservoir and then, all I need is about a 5 inch piece.
>>
>>
>> On 8/17/06, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:28:44 -0700 "Desert Rat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Anyone have an old reservoir laying around, preferably leaking or
>> > > cracked? All I need is the coolant tubing which sits inside.
>> >
>> > Might help if you told us which are it's for.
>> >
>> >
>> > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Need windshield reservoir

[Desert Rat]

Yeah, you're right. 92 500SL but all I need is the stainless steel
coolant exchanger  which is found on a number of MB's with a coolant
coil in the reservoir and then, all I need is about a 5 inch piece.


On 8/17/06, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:28:44 -0700 "Desert Rat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyone have an old reservoir laying around, preferably leaking or
> cracked? All I need is the coolant tubing which sits inside.

Might help if you told us which are it's for.


Craig

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[MBZ] Need windshield reservoir

[Desert Rat]

Anyone have an old reservoir laying around, preferably leaking or
cracked? All I need is the coolant tubing which sits inside.
Thanks
--
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Palm Springs, CA
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1996 Sidekick 57K "Kermit"
1992 500SL 109K "The Flying Plum"

Re: [MBZ] Fuse replacement, what a pain

[Desert Rat]

Just did 32 fuse replacements in the SL and found a plastic tool at
the parts store made for that purpose.

Snap, crackle and pop if your pliers slip!

On 8/12/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Needle nosed pliers? I've used them a few times when it was hard to
get my fingers around the fuse.

On 8/12/06, Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After spending way too much time replacing 17 fuses, I thought I would ask.
>
> Anybody have a good technique or tool that would make it easy for us ham 
fisted folks?
>
> Harry Watkins


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Re: [MBZ] OT: cheap V12 coupe

[Desert Rat]

Another little known fact:

the A/C compressor had to be removed to replace the number 1 cylinder
spark plug. Heard there were a lot of 11 cylinder tuneups.

On 8/8/06, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Rich wrote:<>

Hi Rich,
   Another part of the story about the XKE V12 my friend owned - we used to
drive to work together and he had rented a parking garage to protect it and
prevent any problems finding parking on the street.  Luckily for me, Jim
(the owner) used to let me drive it quite a bit - he knew how much I loved
sports cars and it allowed him to read the paper on the way to work.

It was an all brick, but small single car garage.  The XKE fit perfectly -
but we had to be careful when we opened the doors to avoid damage.  We
always backed it in - it seemed like we could make a faster get-away and
beat some of the traffic.

The real magic was when we fired up that amazing V12  - those 4 exhausts
pipes were always about 4" to 6" from the rear brick wall and that big 12
would turn over sounding all the world like a big turbine - until it fired
and the exhaust sounds bounced off those brick walls!  It was engine Heaven!
I can still hear that magical sound!

The thing I recall the most about driving it was how it revved - the tack
needle would move slowly - it takes a while for 12 cylinders to make a
complete turn - and even though I'd try to see how close to redline I could
take it I'd always chicken out around 4000-5000.  By then, in 2nd gear that
car would be going 80 or so!  Even though it wasn't close to redline it just
seemed like I needed to shift - but o what a musical sound a V12 makes!

;-)

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: cheap V12 coupe


> Yeah that was it.  Still, nothing sounds quite like a nice V12.
>
> --R
>
> LarryT wrote:
>
>>Ya'll wrote:<>cooked the
>>
>>
ignition systems >>


>>
>>You may be referring to a post of mine where I was talking about a XKE V12
>>a
>>friend owned.  The ignition amplifier was in the V and the heat would kill
>>it.
>>
>>I imagine the newer V12 generates as much heat as the older engine but
>>hopefully the electronic components are relocated to a safer area of are
>>better insulated.
>>
>>Even though some years of development and refinement have improved things,
>>rememeber the V12 is a high performance engine requiring an extra level of
>>maintanence and compared to others, were produced in very limited numbers
>>all thing
>>Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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>>.
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:04 AM
>>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: cheap V12 coupe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Rich Thomas wrote:
>>>
>>>
Ddin't I read someone here a few weeks ago say that the V12s cooked the
ignition systems or something, parts that were tucked up between the
heads and got really really hot?


>>>I believe he said a friend owned one and had to replace an electric part
>>>several times a year when the engine quit. It might explain why so
>>>many of them still have less than 100k miles on them, when a R107 of
>>>similar vintage with a 5 digit odo reading is quite rare.
>>>
>>>Believe it or not, that newspaper with about 80-100 car ads in it
>>>currently has two XJS. The other one is a 1987 Jagrolet:
>>>
>>>Jaguar XJS 1987 Converted to Chevy V8, about 8k miles on new engine.
>>>$6300 worth of improvements. Sharp! $3000. 989-277-8476
>>>
>>>If $2-3k is the going rate for a 1980's XJS, I guess a somewhat cheaper
>>>Corvette would have been a better investment.
>>>
>>>Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 201 status

[Desert Rat]

no such thing as a broken clock.it's always correct 2 times a day.

On 8/2/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Intermittent clock function CAN result if even one of the Phillips
> screws in the instrument cluster is not tight. The ground connection is
> made by the pressure that the screws apply to the PC board buss. That
> has happened in several of my 201s. Beating on the dash sometimes
> restored function - at least temporarily.

That could do it.  The clock runs whenever I'm in the car, but will
often be wrong when I get back into it the next day.  And it may
also be marginal capacitors, I'm just going to have to dig in to
fix it.  Unfortunately I find removing a 201 cluster a real PITA.
And I think the suspension woes come first.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?

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Oh yeah, that RAV4 is a towing animal! What a ridiculous comparison!!

Wonder how Toyota's Sequoia SUV is selling as compared to the Expedition?

On 8/2/06, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ya, which is why the WSJ reported yesterday.

One example of how Toyota has turned the tables on Ford: Toyota's
redesigned RAV 4, a compact wagon that can average 25 miles per
gallon, outsold Ford's 15-mpg V-8 powered Expedition SUV 14,755 to
6,705. Last July, the Expedition sold 15,733 to the RAV 4's 7,394.


On 2-Aug-06, at 7:03 AM, Mike Canfield wrote:

> Dave,
>   Just for the record my GF's father bought the Trailblazer and his
> GF's
> daughter bought the 04 Envoy.Neither one has EVER seen 20MPG
> even on the
> highway.  They don't drive fast or hard either.  Ridiculous.
>
> Mike

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Re: [MBZ] Aux Fan Craziness

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Thanks Jim, that explains the one time occurrence I experienced last
week when it was 123 degrees and lots of shutoff and start errands.

Happened just that one time and been working great ever since.

John Freer
On 7/30/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A couple of times yesterday, when I started the car after it had set
> for a couple of hours and cooled off (well, relative for here) the fan
> came on when I turned the ignition switch.  The engine temp was about
> 135 degrees F.
> Now, this fan should switch on at a prescribed temperature correct?
> And/Or should it be on when ever the AC is on?

The usual cause of that is that the AC is on at start and the engine
compartment has gotten a good heat soak, causing a high pressure in
the AC system.  It usually shuts off pretty soon as things stabilize.
The aux fan is _not_ normally on all the time the AC is on, by
design, and I'd agree with this.  Because the AC compressor is on
such a large percentage of the time, unless "EC" is selected, the
aux fan would run too much.  It's not rated for continuous duty,
in that it'd wear out pretty quickly if it were on all the time.
So it's wired to only come on when needed.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump Vacuum Schump

[Desert Rat]

Don, do a Google search for Ford Explorer instrument cluster bulbs
burnt out, or something like that and bet it will lwead you to an
Useres List.

Did that years ago when I had a Bronco II.

John Freer

On 7/27/06, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ok Don wrote:



"Since Marshal answered all your questions except the last one, I'll
take it 

SELL the FORD !!"



Believe me, I have tried to get my wife to sell her Explorer. She loves
it.  This is the first Ford I have ever had.  I will say this for it, we
have not had any trouble at all since we bought it three years ago.  We
bought it will 74XXX miles. Now it has 102,000 miles.  I thought I would
hate it and we would have lots of problems (knock wood).  It has been a
fine car.  If the only problem we have is the instrument cluster bulbs
going out, I keep it.



I don't ever have to drive it, unless it is a time when we need an SUV
to haul something. In those situations I am glad we have it. Otherwise,
my wife drives it and all I have to do is bring it to the Ford Dealer
for my free oil changes.



Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 129

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Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs?? (warning, rant)

[Desert Rat]

And reverse was at the bottom on some models.

On 7/19/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Steve MacSween wrote:
> on 7/19/06 6:44 AM, Mitch Haley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>> What car
>> goes forward at full throttle while the brake pedal goes to the floor, and
>> magically
>> fixes itself after the crash?
>>
>
> The "problem" was eventually admitted to be that the european cars did not
> have the huge brake pedal that NA makes did, with the automatic.
>
> Actually there were also reports of Volvos in the same circumstances. But
> Audi for some reason bore the brunt.
>

Jeep had its share of runaway-style accidents, too.  User error, but
probably aggravated by a feature of their design.  If you look at some
of the 1980s Cherokee and Wagoneer models, the pedals are shifted
considerably farther to the left than most cars, to make room for the
large transmission hump.  That puts the accelerator in the same general
area, relative to the steering wheel, as the right edge of the oversize
brake pedal on most automatic cars.

Side note...when automatic transmissions first became popular, there was
a spate of accidents where people were in the wrong gear.  They'd think
they were in reverse, but were really in drive, and would push down on
the accelerator until the car jumped the curb and hit something.  This
is what inspired the modern P-R-N-D-L shift quadrant, which puts a
neutral gear in between reverse and drive.

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Re: [MBZ] 190d turbo

[Desert Rat]

You're talking turbo vs. non turbo here.Turbo is very rare.

On 7/9/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This one only has 86k miles --
http://tinyurl.com/kr47v


On 7/9/06, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I sent the seller a question asking him to document the exclusivity. We
> shall see.
>

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Re: [MBZ] Test and possible move to WA

[Desert Rat]

Because they live in the mountains surrounding Seattle?

On 7/8/06, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

on 7/8/06 2:24 PM, David Brodbeck at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Ed Booher wrote:
>> Wait . Seattle rarely gets snow? Because I was under the
>> impression that it did snow there. I don't know if you've heard me
>> complain in the past, but I hate snow.
>>
>
> Seattle gets snow maybe twice a year, and it rarely sticks to the
> ground.  However, people panic at the first sight of white stuff in the
> air and start driving at about 30 mph on the freeway.

So why have I seen SO many WA state cars on eBay with snow tires on them?

This has always baffled me.

Mac


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Re: [MBZ] Collective Oil Wisdom, Pls...

[Desert Rat]

Now Chuck, you know if you go with that Castrol stuff you will have to
remove that M1 sticker you have under the 500E hood.


>  I spoke w/Arizona Petroleum that is a local distributor of most
> brands of motor oil to see if they had any Mobil1.  "Very little" and
> "no 15W/50" was the answer.  But, they do have Castrol Full Synthetic
> 5W/50 in ample supply.   I was told Castrol Full Synthetic (Syntec?)
> is Mercedes-Benz approved...
>
> What's the collective opinion of this for my two cars...  '86 190E
> 2.3 16V and '92 500E???  Cost is about $39 for 6 quart case.
>
> TIA,
>
> Chuck
> Phoenix, AZ
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL vacuum information

[Desert Rat]

Unless the doors,trunk and gas door is the problem then that is  a
different system commencing from a pump found in the spare tire well.

On 6/27/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> system?  I'm not getting enough vacuum from the check valve tap  on the
> brake booster line to operate the other vacuum accessories reliably.

The only thing on the booster's tap is the brown line for the engine
shutoff.  Everything else comes off the secondary vacuum output line
on the vacuum pump.  (An inch or so to the passenger side from the
big line.)  Or so it is on ours.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 79 300D Normal Coolant Temperature

[Desert Rat]

Why are we trying to fix something that isn't broken? Peter's
operating temps are well within the specs.

On 6/22/06, M.Afzaal.Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi   Do try  another descaling  flush ,my 300se made a dramatic decrease in
temp only after the third  descaling & flushing .
Changing the cut-in temperature of the viscous fan coupling  will effect a
big change if all is well with the head gasket and other items.
Lower hose pipe cavitations is a very often overlooked ,replace pipes if
soft.
 I had a slight oily scum in the header tank then, which went away after the
decaling &flushing .
 Also  added a bottle of " bar's leak" to the coolant .
At one time my Jaguar XJ12 used to have this as a factory added sealant and
was very effective in fixing the odd leaks the then jags always sprung  up
hence the factory recommendation for Bar.s Leak.
mak
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Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 79 300D Normal Coolant Temperature


>I still ( after 5 years ) am not sure if I have a cooling problem with
> my 300D. Temperatures climb to 98degC when climbing a 200m hill that is
> 3 km is length ( average inclination 15:1 ) Normal temperature is some
> 82 deg. Fast ( 120km/h ) driving also results in higher temperatures (
> 95 deg ). Ambient temperature 25degC. Is this "normal " or should I
> change radiator - ( I have changed pump, thermostat, fan-coupler )
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 79 300D Normal Coolant Temperature

[Desert Rat]

Peter, those are great numbers.wish my MB's were that low!

I  wouldn't touch a thing.

On 6/22/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Peter Merle wrote:
> I still ( after 5 years ) am not sure if I have a cooling problem with
> my 300D. Temperatures climb to 98degC when climbing a 200m hill that is
> 3 km is length ( average inclination 15:1 ) Normal temperature is some
> 82 deg. Fast ( 120km/h ) driving also results in higher temperatures (
> 95 deg ). Ambient temperature 25degC. Is this "normal " or should I
> change radiator - ( I have changed pump, thermostat, fan-coupler )

Sounds perfectly normal.

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Re: [MBZ] Ammonia?

[Desert Rat]

I know how to solve this real easily.

Just drop a note to your insurance company that you are using amonia
based refrigerant in your car.



On 6/19/06, ned kleinhenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Relax, Friends.

I don't think it is likely anyone will start using ammonia in automotive A/C
systems very soon.
But I've done a little engineering work with ammonia refrigeration.  And
ammonia can be dangerous.
But let's put it in perspective.  Many cars contain about 120 lbs of
gasoline.  A typical A/C unit would contain maybe 2 or 3 lbs of ammonia.
The heating value of gasoline is in the range of 20,000 BTU/lb.  Ammonia is
8,000 BTU/lb.  The UEL to LEL range for gasoline is 1.2% to 7.1%.  That
range for ammonia is 15% to 28%  (It is far easier to create and explosive
mixture of gasoline and air than ammonia and air.)

By my rectal estimate, you would be 150X more likely to get fried by the
gasoline in that car that t-bones your diesel, than by some ammonia in the
A/C system of your diesel.

(Interestingly - the the probablility of getting killed by inhaling or
igniting diesel fumes is so low, none of my references even disucss it.)

When I was a child, my father had my grandparents' original Fridgidaire
refrigerator in his office.  That thing had an ammonia charge.
We never thought about it being dangerous.  When its control circuit burned
out after 50 or 60 years of continuous service, it had never lost and ounce
of ammonia.   My father took it way -- way out back and cut one of the
refrigerant lines and ran.  When all the ammonia had all gone, he removed
the nice little 2 cylinder compressor and used it to fill tires ever since.

Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2
'85 300D
'80 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Tell why not to buy a 140.

[Desert Rat]

Don,
it's the wiring harness and evaporator issues but this is common to
all 92 through 95 (?) MB's.

Then, you've got the complex, over engineered systems in the
carwhy there are over 52 fuses alone!

And of course, you know about the diesel rod benders.

All that being said, I am completely happy with my 92 500SEL and have
never had a nicer car.

On 6/14/06, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I keep running across 140 chassis cars in fantastic shape for not that
much money. Why don't I want one of these again?  Is it the wiring
harness.  They do appear to be very nice cars.



Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 127K

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Re: [MBZ] Purist whining?

[Desert Rat]

In the spirit of the D-C merger:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z4001224D

On 6/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> < you
> just guessing it's a POS? Who cares if it's not the real deal? No one
> would actually drive a real one would they? At least not alot. I'd drive
> that all the time and not even care about how many miles. Looks like a load
> of fun to me. BUT, alas I am just a poor hick that doesn't know jack about
> an SSK.>>
>
I object to fiberglass copies of important and valuable cars being presented
as "replicas" when they are not. I HAVE seen these Gazelle replicas and aside
from four wheels, there isn't much resemblance. And putting the MB Star
upfront is insulting.

Maybe you could google Mercedes SSK and learn something.

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] Wheel offset

[Desert Rat]

51 offset is the proper W140 wheel size from the factory.

On 6/13/06, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Noo.

51 offset? Sounds like it came off a FWD car.

Mac

on 6/13/06 9:20 AM, Donald Snook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Does anyone know what the wheel offset is on my wheels? I have a 1990
> 300SEL with the standard 15 hole wheels.  (I know I can take one of my
> wheels off and look at it that way, But I was hoping someone knew what
> the offset was without removing the wheel).
>
>
>
> Can I put 16 inch 8 hole wheels with an offset of 51 on my car?
>
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel offset

[Desert Rat]

Don,
I have been told that the W140 takes a special wheel (different hub
fitting plus the larger offset) than the W126. I wasn't able to put
W126 wheels on my W140 and would suspect the opposite is true as well,
but I don't know that for sure.

Be aware that the W126 never had the 8 hole option from the factory,
only bundts and flatface types but I think Tirerack has developed a
relica 8 hole wheel.

On 6/13/06, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

OK Don wrote:



"Looks like 21.5 to 25 mm depending on wheel width. FYI - all the wheels
on the 300D 2.5  I bought from you were after market, not just those
with the snow tires. I would not be afraid to buy some nice 8 hole
wheels from TireRack."



I agree, Tire Rack wheels are probably fine.  But, Jim (from Phoenix)
has some nice 8 hole wheels that are 16 X 7.5 with some nice Michelins
on them.  If I buy four new wheels from Tire Rack that will be $400. If
I buy his they will be $350 and I get some good tires.  ($350 is what he
has them on ebay for - maybe I can offer him Kaleb pricing).  The only
problem is I think the offset is going to be too much.  His wheels are
+51 offset.  So, I think that is too much difference. But, I am not
sure.





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Re: [MBZ] Nice 380SL in Memphis for $2900 needs engine

[Desert Rat]

But I think the regular fuel requirement for the 380 at least offsets
any additional mpg for the premium required 560?

(This is what happens when 2 List members are trying to sell their MB's (grin))

On 6/12/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I never got around to converting the 16v into a 190D sportline.
> Maybe my 2.5 turbo would fit in a 107 instead. Would have
> to do some engine mods to make the performance acceptable,
> and of course, it would never get 40mpg.

Yeah, that could be fun.  The amazing thing about the 107 is
that you can actually get 20mpg in them, often anyway.  (The
newest ones that is.)  My '86 560 SL is much faster _and_ gets
better mileage than a friend's '85 380 SL.

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Re: [MBZ] A possibly entertaining story, addition.

[Desert Rat]

What I appreciate the most about dry heat is the fact that all I need
to cool our place is an evaporator cooler for pennies a day instead of
$ per hour if I had to use the A.C. Other day it was 114 and never had
to use AC. Now, when we get the monsoons in August and humidity goes
over 40%, the cooler doesn't work.
On 6/7/06, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Johnny B...

My theory is "HOT is HOT"  whatever we can take is what we do,
when we have to do what we have to do!

Dry Heat is just a PR line.  I grew up outside Washington DC w/o AC
and slept in the "glider" (if anybody knows what that is?) on the
front screened porch.  Just  plain hot w/high humidity and Louie
Allen drawing stick figures for the weather forecast on WMAL-TV...

Weather is weather and we make too much about it and a whole lot of
other "stuff" that is just gonna' happen whether we like it or not

Off the soapbox..!

Chuck
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Re: [MBZ] It's Hot

[Desert Rat]

Bob...how do you handle it? Why it barely reached 113 here.

Speaking of.I threw a bottle of Water Wetter in today and saw the
temp drop about 3 degrees as compared to yesterday. (went to 2 notches
below 100, stop and go with A/C on) That stuff works!

On 6/3/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

So...I get up to get ready for work and I look and it's 116 degrees on my patio.
No whining about how hot any of you are.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 154K
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Re: [MBZ] OM617/300sd oil pressure drop at idle, in gear

[Desert Rat]

What weight oil are you running? Some say "spec" is .5.

I was using 0/40 M1 and saw the same conditions you describe. Changed
to 15/50 M1 and now never goes below 1 bar now even at 110 degrees,
idling in traffic with A/C on.

On 5/27/06, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This is related to my run-hot thread

I seem to recall that the (base) MB spec for oil pressure at hot idle in an
OM617 is 1 bar.

I am getting ~1.5-ish bar at idle hot in park, even when the car is running
hot, but it drops further and faster, to 1 bar in gear once the engine has
really got hot, or I'm in dead traffic, and can even sneak just under the 1
bar mark in traffic jams. So I am constantly shifting into neutral when
waiting.

Question: what is the spec, and is it spec'd for neutral/park or idling in
gear?

TKS

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Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt Lower Pivot - Need Help!

[Desert Rat]

Unless the PO had to change engines.

On 5/26/06, John Peterson / ImmersionStudio LLC
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

But it is EASY to read if you have your original warranty booklet.  The
engine number is stamped on mine there (last page, old ibm card)



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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt Lower Pivot - Need Help!


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> 2nd -- where the H do I find the engine #?  I've looked all over but
> evidently not the right place.  As I mentioned - it;s a '91, W124 5 cyl
2.5
> Turbo.

The engine number is on the driver's side rear of the engine block, just
below the block head junction, behind the oil filter housing and under
the intake manifold - IMPOSSIBLE for a human to see without
disassembling the car.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] 201 4 vs 6

[Desert Rat]

That's correct, sir.

On 5/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


<>

These statements are from personal experience, I assume?

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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist ad: wrong year/model?

[Desert Rat]

Yes they did and for the US market.

On 5/21/06, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Did MB build both a 350SD and a 350SDL?  I guess anything's possible with
swaps.  I'm half tempted to go and take a look at it.

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
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Re: [MBZ] 190E questions

[Desert Rat]

Kevin,while the 2.6 is a 6 cylinder gas, the 2.3 is a 4 cylinder gas engine.
The 2.6 is shoehorned in and is hard to work on and not much faster than the
4 cylinder model.

The early 190D is economical but not much faster than a W123 240D.

If I can be of any help out here in the Palm Springs area, let me know.


On 5/21/06, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello everyone.

My sister in So Cal is looking at Mercedes 190E's, the latest one being a
1992 190E 2.6 with 112K miles on it for $3300.  The car is for her
fiance's
daughter, so they want to find a relatively good one for around 3K.  The
first one was a $2700 1991 with 166K miles on it that had obvious
vac/climate control problems (hot air coming out the side vents with cool
AC
coming out the center).
Is there a similar buyers guide like that for the W124 for a W201?  I'm
sure
that most of the stuff on there would apply to that chassis as well.  Are
there any years that should be avoided?  Which model year is the best for
these cars, and which engine is the more reliable of the two?  Of course,
a
190D, in my opinion, would be best, but...

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Re: [MBZ] Tear Downs was Re: Tire Purchase

[Desert Rat]

Same motivation used with buying big SUV's...but 10 times more wasteful of
our resources.

On 5/20/06, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I've often wondered what motivates a retired couple to build a 7000 sq.
ft. house with three stories, when you know as well as I that they live
in three rooms -- bedroom, kitchen, family room.  The wag here says
they pay someone to clean -- hope they stay rich!

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Tire Purchase

[Desert Rat]

Agree 100 percent Levi,

Point is Michelin doesn't make a XXX tire for everone but Wallyworld
and then let Wallyworld sell a XXX tire which is inferior to others.
Just not going to happen.

Bought Kuhmo's recently from Tirerack mounted and balanced and then
drop shipped to my Indie. Great tire and great deal. No complaints at
all, for the money anyway.

On 5/18/06, Levi Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think they key thing is that are different "models" of tires.
"Michelin" is a brand name.  Just cause they make a really great tire,
doesn't mean they don't make some really crappy ones as well.

I don't exactly consider B.F. Goodrich to be my favorite tires, but I'd
consider them a good name.  However, my 83' 300D came with a set that the
guy got at Sam's.  At least two of them have had bubbles in the sidewalls
since I got them.  I pretty well view them as crap tires.

The difference is:
Wal-mart sells CHEAP TIRES.
Tirerack sells GOOD TIRES CHEAP...

Not to say you couldn't find a crap tire at Tirerack, or a good tire at
Wal-mart.  But personally, I buy what I can look on tirerack and see good
reviews for both from tirerack and other customers, and then take it to
Wal-mart or whereever to have it mounted and balanced.
And every time I've checked so far, it's still been cheaper than just
getting whatever no-name brand crap tire that Wal-mart had and having them
mount and balance it...

Personally, I haven't looked up the exact specs, but for the size that was
previously listed where Michelin's were got at Wal-mart for $165, I would
have just paid $85 for Kumho's from Tirerack and had Wally world mount
them.  I've had great luck with the Kumho's I've gotten so far...  (I don't
know what model the michelin's were, but tirerack did have a michelin in
that size that was $160...)

Levi

On 5/18/06, Desert Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So, Michelin has a different warranty on tires purchased at discount
> outlets? Wouldn't Tirerack be the ultimate Discount Outlet? Are they
> produced "offshore" as well?
>
> Sorry, but I am not in the auto trade. Where can one look up this well
> known fact to verify this rumor?
>
> On 5/18/06, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Uh, negative on the Mobil 1, but it's well known in the auto trade that
> the
> > Michelin tires sold through discount outlets (Wal Mart, in Canada also
> > Canadian Tire) are produced offshore in the Third World.
> >
> > In the case of Michelin, I know at one time the tires they sold to the
> > discounter market even carried different model designations (for
> example,
> > the X-One was called the X when bought through Costco). Not sure if that
> is
> > still true, but if you are comparison shopping check that the entire
> model
> > name AND the treadwear and load rating specs are the same.
> >
> > BTW, this is also happening here in Canada with "Bosch" parts sold
> through
> > Crappy Tire stores (mostly starters and alternators). You are in for a
> > surprise when you try to pull one and get core or warranty for it, from
> an
> > actual Bosch dealer. Bosch won't accept them back as cores or warranty
> them.
> >
> > Of course, you KNOW that the current joke among German mechanics is:
> "What
> > does 'Bosch-Germany' labelled on a part mean? Answer: 'Made in India'."
> LoL.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Mac
> >
> > on 5/18/06 1:34 PM, Desert Rat at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Oh yeah, and the Mobil 1 is watered down, etc, etc.
> > >
> > > Good grief!
> > >
> > > On 5/18/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Really?  I would think a Michelin was a Michelin.  Do they provide a
> > >> lower spec tire specifically for Wal Mart?
> > >>
> > >> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > >>> Their tires are also not of the same quality as what you would get
> at a
> > >>> real tire store/tirerack.
> > >>>
> > >>> James Jetton wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Johnny,
> > >>>> I just purchased a set of Michelins for the Powerstroke at
> Wal-mart.  Out
> > >>>> the door price of $166.00 each, which included lifetime rotation
> and
> > >>>> balance, tire disposal, taxes, etc for a set of 235/85/R16's.
> > >>>> I normally limit my exposure to Wally World, but these prices were
> cheaper
> > >>>> than anyone else.
> > >>>>
> &g

Re: [MBZ] Tire Purchase

[Desert Rat]

So, Michelin has a different warranty on tires purchased at discount
outlets? Wouldn't Tirerack be the ultimate Discount Outlet? Are they
produced "offshore" as well?

Sorry, but I am not in the auto trade. Where can one look up this well
known fact to verify this rumor?

On 5/18/06, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Uh, negative on the Mobil 1, but it's well known in the auto trade that the
Michelin tires sold through discount outlets (Wal Mart, in Canada also
Canadian Tire) are produced offshore in the Third World.

In the case of Michelin, I know at one time the tires they sold to the
discounter market even carried different model designations (for example,
the X-One was called the X when bought through Costco). Not sure if that is
still true, but if you are comparison shopping check that the entire model
name AND the treadwear and load rating specs are the same.

BTW, this is also happening here in Canada with "Bosch" parts sold through
Crappy Tire stores (mostly starters and alternators). You are in for a
surprise when you try to pull one and get core or warranty for it, from an
actual Bosch dealer. Bosch won't accept them back as cores or warranty them.

Of course, you KNOW that the current joke among German mechanics is: "What
does 'Bosch-Germany' labelled on a part mean? Answer: 'Made in India'." LoL.

Cheers

Mac

on 5/18/06 1:34 PM, Desert Rat at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Oh yeah, and the Mobil 1 is watered down, etc, etc.
>
> Good grief!
>
> On 5/18/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Really?  I would think a Michelin was a Michelin.  Do they provide a
>> lower spec tire specifically for Wal Mart?
>>
>> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>>> Their tires are also not of the same quality as what you would get at a
>>> real tire store/tirerack.
>>>
>>> James Jetton wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Johnny,
>>>> I just purchased a set of Michelins for the Powerstroke at Wal-mart.  Out
>>>> the door price of $166.00 each, which included lifetime rotation and
>>>> balance, tire disposal, taxes, etc for a set of 235/85/R16's.
>>>> I normally limit my exposure to Wally World, but these prices were cheaper
>>>> than anyone else.
>>>>
>>>> James Jetton
>>>> 1987 300SDL 143k
>>>> 1996 Ford F-250 Powerstroke 171k
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Re: [MBZ] Tire Purchase

[Desert Rat]

Oh yeah, and the Mobil 1 is watered down, etc, etc.

Good grief!

On 5/18/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Really?  I would think a Michelin was a Michelin.  Do they provide a
lower spec tire specifically for Wal Mart?

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Their tires are also not of the same quality as what you would get at a
> real tire store/tirerack.
>
> James Jetton wrote:
>
>
>> Johnny,
>> I just purchased a set of Michelins for the Powerstroke at Wal-mart.  Out 
the door price of $166.00 each, which included lifetime rotation and balance, tire 
disposal, taxes, etc for a set of 235/85/R16's.
>> I normally limit my exposure to Wally World, but these prices were cheaper 
than anyone else.
>>
>> James Jetton
>>  1987 300SDL 143k
>>  1996 Ford F-250 Powerstroke 171k
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Re: [MBZ] Any body want a W140 w/new engine?

[Desert Rat]

And let's not forget the Evaporator issue.

On 5/8/06, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, 8 May 2006 10:24:17 -0500 "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-MERCEDES-BENZ-300SD-NEW-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ4638434843QQcategoryZ6336QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Does it have the biodegradable wiring?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] spring time

[Desert Rat]

Special springs because of the added weight of a sunroof? So, how does
one compensate for the varying weights of a driver/passenger? This is
kind of bizarre!

On 5/3/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> brake support joints.  Rusty and I decided that the sunroof couldn't
> add
> more than perhaps 50 pounds to the front half of an already front-heavy
> car, so I went ahead and installed the much cheaper non-sunroof
> springs.

I doubt the _entire_ sunroof weighs 50 pounds!  (You wouldn't count
the color panel, since that piece of metal would be there anyway.)

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 500E for sale

[Desert Rat]

My 92 W140 has R134 from the factory.

On another topic Dave, why in the hell did you show me that My
401K hates you

We were huge John Paul fans during the 80' and have dozens of photos
of their IMSA Porsches.

On 4/28/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dave, is it true what he says about all 500E's, even early ones,
> coming with
> R134a A/C from the factory?  First I've heard of that.  Seems odd for
> a '92
> car.

That was about the cutover date, IIRC.  It would make some sense that
they'd ease into the switchover, and do it first on some sub-model of
the line.

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Re: [MBZ] Dealing with MBUSA

[Desert Rat]

Wasn't too many years ago that Porsche would paint your car "to
sample" providing you gave them enough green stuff.

On 4/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> < desires. You wanted an interior that was available for that model, combined 
> with
> an exterior that was available for that model, and the computer wouldn't allow
> the dealer to process the order that way?
> If I were the would-be customer, that would be a NO SALE until the dealer got
> on the phone with HQ and found a way to place the order the way I wanted it.>>
>
>
> Dream on. MBUSA did not want to be bothered with too many choices. A computer
> doesn't come into it. As far as lying down on the floor, holding my breath
> and kicking my heels, it won't work. Take it or leave it.
>
> I think things have changed in the last five years. First, there is the MB
> worldwide quality scandal which has torpedoed sales numbers and cut sales comm
> issions. Second, there are now a helluva lot of good cars fishing in MB's
> fishing hole.
>
> So now, MB is putting that behind them by bringing out new models such as the
> S-Class and the revising the E-Class to tide them over until the new E
> arrives in '09. The all-new C is due early next year along with the G 
> alongside the
> old G for the well heeled traditionalists. And the M is new, of course.
>
> And it looks like diesel power will be coming for all of them, most likely
> BlueTec. The revised E (due out this month) offers four diesels in Europe
> including the new 4.0 TT V-8. My copy of Auto motor und Sport arrived today 
> with a
> big atricle on the revised E and the AMG 6.3 version of the CLK and others.
> And, the name Hammer is coming   back with two AMG V-8s, one with more than 
> 600HP
> and nearly 500 ft lbs torque.
>
> RLE
>
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Re: [MBZ] Kevin is selling his CD

[Desert Rat]

If only he had spelled diesel correctly...my Search missed it.

On 4/25/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/153514058.html
>
> If you put some time or effort into your new to you CD, maybe this
> fellow will make it worth your while to part with it
>
> no affiliation
>
> --
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> 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
> The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Re: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?

[Desert Rat]

Unfortunately though, you will have to move out of the US to own one.
While they are built in AL, they are not US legal, yet.

On 4/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Luther wrote:<>>
>
> Thanks Luther,
> I have learned something useful!!  Now, when I hit the lottery I can order a
> ML Diesel!!
> ;-)
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Luther Gulseth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?
>
>
> > AA, the ML DOES come with the CDI.  It must be ordered
> > that way, like EVERY other car you purchase from MB!
> > I use to think the same exact way, till my plant contact set me straight
> > and told me how it is.
> >
> > Luther
> >
> >
> >
> > ~Agree - I would have thought the ML would have been a perfect fit for a
> > ~diesel -
> > ~
> > ~Also - in Europe, I read that over 1/2 of the S class new car sales had
> > ~diesel engines.
> > ~That would be my "dream MB" - a 96-99 S Class with a large turbo diesel -
> > ~The ultimate in luxury.  I know the W140 is supposed to be vault like --
> > and
> > ~never having driven a W140 or the newer S CLass (W220?) I can't really
> > speak
> > ~from experience but I would suspect the newer S Class would be close to
> > the
> > ~W140 in luxury and ride quality - probably not as good build quality as
> > the
> > ~W140 but it'd be nice to have the option.  I'd like to see some on the
> > used
> > ~car market -
> > ~
> > ~Oh well - I wonder of MB listens to the public?
> > ~
> > ~Sincerely,
> > ~Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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> > ~- Original Message -
> > ~From: "Kevin J. Slater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > ~To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > ~Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:53 AM
> > ~Subject: [MBZ] Why no 320CDI choice for the new GL?
> > ~
> > ~
> > ~>I don't get MB. You'd think they'd start putting diesel engines in more
> > ~> cars. I know that folks who buy a new MB can usually afford to put
> > ~> gasoline in the tank, but at the same time, there must be a large cross
> > ~> section that would like to be able to say they get really good mileage
> > in
> > ~> their new XX class MB. Donchathink?
> > ~>
> > ~> ...Kevin
> > ~> 87 300TD 283k mi
> > ~>
> > ~>
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[MBZ] Oil Pressure 0.3 reading

[Desert Rat]

Tom Hargrave asked:

I'm curious, which engine is it?

Tom, it's a 85 380SL . In my Owners Manual for the W140 (119), there
is no specific wording.

I was looking at a mid 90's MB on Ebay and the oil pressure gauge was
red just a tick below 1 so it appears that the gauge calibrations have
changed or MB's philosophy has or it's engine specific.
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Re: [MBZ] Idiot Needle

[Desert Rat]

Tom, to quote my Owners Manual, page 53: "The oil pressure at idle may
drop to 0.3 bar if the engine is at operating temperature but must
rise immediately upon acceleration."

I see 1 to 1.2 sometimes and I'm not happy about that but MB says it's
OK. Using 20-50 Mobil 1 from 0-40 increased my hot idle from under 1
and I didn't like that at all!

On 4/22/06, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim's correct - what matters is hot oil pressure at idle or a pressure drop
> at running speed & both are delivered by Mercedes oil pressure gauge. Even
> the American gauges that read actual pressure at running speeds deliver
> useless information at those speeds.
>
> I would correct one of Don's statements - I'd say that anything below 1.2
> bar at hot idle shows an issue with the engine. He's 100% correct about the
> pegged gauge at road speeds.
>
> I've got a better one for you. A friend of mine purchased a new Ford 3/4 ton
> diesel truck a few years back. He noticed that the oil pressure gauge always
> read mid level regardless of engine speed and being an Engineer, he knew
> better. He took it to Ford for diagnosis and found out in the process that
> the gauge was connected to an "idiot light" sensor and when the sensor
> turned on, the gauge swung to mid range. In other words, the gauge was
> nothing more than a fancy idiot light! Needless to say, Don was not a happy
> camper! He's still driving the truck & he has a real oil pressure gauge
> mounted under the dash but he'll probably not purchase another one. Ford
> saved $6.00 and lost a loyal customer in the process.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> 256-656-1924
> www.kegkits.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 12:25 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Idiot Needle
>
> > Why does the oil pressure gauge simply peg at 3 almost all the time?
> > In doing so, it is less a gauge, and more an idiot light. Why didn't
> > Mercedes redesign the gauge so that it provided precise feedback as to
> > the pressure?
>
> It's an interesting compromise of gauge and idiot light.  Anything above
> 3 is more than enough, so the expanded scale lets you see more of the 'bad'
> area.  I think anything less than 0.5 or 0.7 at hot idle is the danger zone.
> And if it's not at 3 on the road you have a problem.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] W140 door closing system problem

[Desert Rat]

Same problem and routine here, Dave. But, before I went the new pump
route, I decided to changeout the fuse and guess what, haven't had a
problem and it's been almost 6 months now.



On 4/21/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My BIL's 1994 S500 had a problem with the door closing system, which
> has an electrically-operated vacuum pump in the trunk. (This is a
> SEPARATE pump from the door locks, btw.) It basically would stop
> working, so he'd pull the fuse (in the trunk) and re-insert it, which
> would re-set the system and it would work a few times and then quit.
> He got a rebuilt pump from Beckman Technologies...
>
> http://www.beckmanntechnologies.com/products.html
>
> ...and that fixed the problem. Now, a few months later, one door is
> not closing like it should. Rumor is, that's a sign of the pump going
> out (again!). Does anyone know enough about these systems to say if
> that's a true statement? Anyone have troubleshooting info on these
> things? Sure is a nice car when everything works right...!
>
> :-)
>
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Re: [MBZ] pushbutton ACC troubleshooting

[Desert Rat]

Well now, here is a real dumb question: Wouldn't the aspirator fan and
associated controls be bypassed if you set the controls to manual AC?

On 4/19/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is that pretty much true for the W201 as well?
>
> I don't know much about the 201 (yet).  Ours isn't that far
> along!  But I expect it to be substantially the same.  I know
> the monovalve is different, as is the PB array and fan control,
> but still...
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 1984 W126 380SE

[Desert Rat]

First thing I would look for is to be sure it has the dual timing
chain in place and when was the last time they were changed out.

Now I know the 85 models had the dual setup from the factory but am
not sure that all 84 MY 380's had this important improvement.

On 4/17/06, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What can you, the good listers, tell me about a non-diesel V8 with
> 200K on the clock?
>
> How much screaming will I do at this model?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed
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Re: [MBZ] Dumb de Dumb-Dumb-Dumb

[Desert Rat]

It's waiting for you to enter the anti-theft code. If it's an older
Becker, the dealer has a generic code card they can enter.

Otherwise, it's going to be a long WAIT!


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> Hi, All.
>  So, there I was in the junkyard, congratulating myself for paying only $10 
> for a Becker radio from a 300E, it never having occurred to me to CHECK the 
> numbers, hence the subject line. The radio is numbered BE 1480 and, when 
> tested, displays "WAIT".
>  Question:- Am I missing some other part? For example:- Amplifier or CD or? 
> Or is it that the number of my active synapses is below some useful threshold?
>  Fred (Dumber than dirt) Moir
>  Lynn MA
>  Diesel up to here!
>
>
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1985 380SL 145K "Blue Belle"
1996 Sidekick 57K "Kermit"

Re: [MBZ] Toyota eyesore

[Desert Rat]

Crown Vic V8500 V6. And there is a model 500SEL!

On 4/14/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter Frederick wrote:
> > Sad, as I
> > suspect it, like the older Crown Vic styles, are basically decent
> > quality IF they would just get out of the early 1950s for suspension
> > and drivetrain design..
> >
>
> Actually, the 500 doesn't share anything with the Crown Vic.  The
> chassis and drivetrain are all new (except maybe the engine -- not sure
> about that.)  It can be had with RWD and a conventional automatic, or
> all wheel drive and a CVT.  It looks bland but it actually contains a
> lot of new technology for Ford.
>
>
> David Brodbeck
> '83 300D Turbo
>
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Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

[Desert Rat]

Haynes manual page 62,
"step 4. Remove EGR tube and chain tensioner lock bolt."
"step 5, On engines with the Type A hooked steel tensioning rail,
remove the rail."

On 4/14/06, Potter, Tom  E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Of all the manuals available, Chilton's is the least useful, in my
> opinion. Get the factory manuals. You will never regret it. Just think,
> you have already wasted enough time to pay for a factory manual.
>
> Tom Potter (Who spent many years writing technical manuals)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hue wong
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:18 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d
>
>
> Chilton!!!  I curse you!!! ( just looked and both
> my manuals are chiltons)
>
> Rat bastards  That step is missing in both
> books!!
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > What?  None of these cheap damb manuals mentioned
> > this
> > > in the procedures  [EMAIL PROTECTED] it!
> >
> > Step 3 in the '79 300D engine manual:  "Remove
> > tensioner"
> > Step 1 in the 201 602 engine manual: "Remove
> > tensioner"
> >
> > -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Does this look right?

[Desert Rat]

Bob, those are Euro lights...great looking. Had them on my W123 CD and
now on my R107 also


On 4/11/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-300-turbo-diesel_W0QQitemZ4629562801QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> The headlights look odd...or am I nuts.
> (Answer nicely)
>
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Re: [MBZ] W140 steering pulsing when cold?

[Desert Rat]

Can you check to see if there are any driveway spots of oil? Mine is
leaking a tad and spots occur under the drivers side front just back
from the bumper.

Looking at the 2nd rebuild now.

On 4/10/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> dave walton wrote:
> > My 94 S350 has started showing some steering problems when cold. There is a
> > pulsating moaning sound as you turn. You can feel the pulsating through the
> > steering wheel. It changes pitch with the engine speed. It is maybe slightly
> > harder to turn. After about 2 minutes, it goes back to normal. I could go
> > out on a limb and suggest the steering pump is going bad, but I've been
> > wrong before with apparently simple assumptions like that. If it is the
> > pump, is it fixable? Easy fix?
>
> I'd start by changing the PS fluid and the filter.
>
> Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

[Desert Rat]

Jim,
just tell him the car is in Nigeria and a money wire transfer to you
is required.

Free shipping to wherever he wants the car.

On 4/7/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First bite on the car, and it's a scam.  I look forward to the
> coming days!
>
> I'm glad that this bozo is interested in my "Goods for sale", and
> can't read.  (Or write!)
>
> Let's see.  "Dear BLANK, go BLANK yourself."  ... and get better
> mail-merge, spelling, and grammar programs!
>
> -- Jim
>
> "I am Kelvin smith from US, colorado spring, currently an automobile
> dealer here in London, France, westafrica. I do business worldwide like
> buying New & Used Autos for sales and all kinds of Electronics.I was
> just going through the Classified ads and I then came across the advert
> concerning your Goods for sale, am very much interested in purchasing.
> So kindly let me know the features, condition as well as the price you
> are willing to sell."
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Re: [MBZ] 300D Bundtcake Rims

[Desert Rat]

Massive doses of Brake Cleaner. That's what I used when I pulled off
the Clean Discs and found an unbelieveable amount of crud on the back
of the wheels. YUK!

On 4/6/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is the crust in the back of the wheel that I am trying to make go
> away.  What little there is on the front is pretty simple to remove
>
> On Thursday, April 6, 2006, at 11:18 AM, David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> > archer wrote:
> >> A pressure washer held just close enough to remove the dirt/brake
> >> dust and
> >> not the finish did a good job on a set of bundt wheels after spraying
> >> them
> >> with some kind of cleaner (409?) I forget which one.
> >>
> >
> > In that vein, I've had reasonably good results at removing light
> > accumulations by spraying the wheels with cheap parts store wheel
> > cleaner just before driving through a self-serve automatic car wash.
> >
> >
> > David Brodbeck
> > '83 300D Turbo
> >
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Re: [MBZ] coolish?

[Desert Rat]

Or into Juneau, AK on Alaska Air.

On 4/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <>
>
> Sonderstrom. Gee, on my first European trip, we landed at Sondrestrom to
> refuel on the way from Vancouver to Dusseldorf. 727-100
>
> Thrilling approach up the dead-end fjord. Like flying down a curved hallway.
>
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Re: [MBZ] brake schmutz

[Desert Rat]

Well,
I do dry them off after rinsing.

I noticed that if I am driving in the rain, the brake dust sticks to the wheel.

That happened once to me in the past 2 years.

On 4/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> < required to keep the wheels looking good.>>
>
> A simple hosing off??? What's your idea of "looking good', anyway? Water does
> not wash off brake dust.
>
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Re: [MBZ] EPC question - CLK optional wheel bolts?

[Desert Rat]

Isn't the offset on a W124 wheel somewhere in the neighborhood of 45?

On 4/4/06, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks, Dave!  The 21 mm ones must be what I'm looking for.
>
> Yeah, I bought those wheels not just because I like the looks of them but
> also because I had heard that they were forged, not cast like most new
> wheels are.  They are 16x7.5 ET 37.  I plan to put them on the 300D with
> 205/55-16 tires.  (I'd like to go wider, to 215/55-16s, but I'm afraid they
> might rub in the front at maximum lock due to the wider offset.  What do you
> think?)  I'll weigh them when I get a chance.  Not sure I have anything more
> accurate than the bathroom scale to do it with, though, LOL!
>
> Alex
>
> On 4/3/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Alex,
> >
> > I think those are the forged aluminum wheels... they're supposed to be
> > quite light. If you are able to weigh them, I'd be curious about the
> > weight. What size/offset are they, btw?
> >
> > Anyway, the EPC shows two lug bolts for the 99 CLK320 in two different
> > lengths, I assume you'd need the shorter of the two (the longer ones
> > are for "code 648/659" which may be a Sport or AMG variant.)
> >
> > 203-401-01-70 - M12 x 1, 5 x 21
> > 203-401-02-70 - M12 x 1, 5 x 40
> >
> > Looks to me like the first one is 21mm long, and the second is 40mm long?
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > -Dave M.
> >
> > > --
> > > Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 23:42:52 -0800
> > > From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: [MBZ] EPC question - CLK optional wheel bolts?
> > >
> > >
> > > Can somebody with the EPC look up a part for me---the lug bolt that fits
> > the
> > > wheel in the attached picture?  (Also at
> > > http://www.w124diesel.net/clkwheel.jpg if the attachment doesn't work.)
> > >
> > > These are sometimes called "lightweight CLK wheels."  They were an
> > option on
> > > late '90s CLKs and maybe other cars.  The girl I bought them from said
> > they
> > > came on her '99 right off the lot, and she didn't know there was
> > anything
> > > special about them (muah ha ha! her loss!).
> > >
> > > Standard lug bolts that work with every other wheel on a 124 don't work
> > with
> > > these---it looks like they need to be about 2 or 3 cm shorter to bottom
> > out
> > > properly in the seats.
> > >
> > > I want to know the right part number before I call Rusty... not that I
> > don't
> > > trust him, just that I have heard tell that these bolts are an exotic
> > item,
> > > easily mistaken for other bolts, and want to get more than one opinion
> > on
> > > the right PN before I order.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alex Chamberlain
> > > '87 300D Turbo
> > > '93 Isuzu Trooper
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Used 126 wheels 86 420 SEL

[Desert Rat]

Walt, if the wheel is 14", then it is not a 15 hole wheel but rather,
a bundt wheel which was standard on the W126 through 1985.

A 15 hole wheel has a "flat face" and the bundt does not.

On 3/31/06, W. Lasher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I don't know if this is what your looking for but I have:
>
> Snow Tires for Sale:
> I have 2 studded snow tires for sale
> Cooper Weather master S/T
> P197/70 R 14  M/S, These were used on my W126.
> Tires have 96% original tread almost new ……$20 each
>
> Also have extra wheel (15 hole) in New
> Condition….$60   This was my spare on my ole' w126
> All located in Everett, Washington..30 miles North of Seattle
> You can contact me direct at  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> for pictures and/or info.
> Walt Lasher
> W140  S350
>
> * It came off my W126
>
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Re: [MBZ] Joe!

[Desert Rat]

Joe's back??

On 3/31/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ditto! Good to have you back in the fray, Joe.
>
> =)
>
> +dm
>
> > --
> > Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:54:24 -0600
> > From: Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [MBZ] Joe!
> >
> >
> > Welcome back Joe!
> >
> > We've missed ya!
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Re: [MBZ] 0-60 Target?

[Desert Rat]

Dave,
thanks for that work you did on the worksheet, it's a keeper!

On 3/30/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Thanks to Marshall and Dave M (& others) -  you wrote:<> that
> > makes my initial time of 14 sec seem pretty close!  I need to try again with
> > AC off and see how we do.
> >
> > Now, given my closeness to the standard time, does that change our diagnosis
> > for the engine/head/GPs having carbon deposits around them?  I still get the
> > rough running/white smoke when 1st started *if* the ambient temp is below
> > ~45F - only very slightly rough - more like a cough - above ~45F.  But below
> > 40F is seems to run on 3 cylinders.
>
> Changes NOTHING.
>
> >
> > Is there anything in the IP or injectors that might cause them to "stick"
> > when cold?  Grasping for straws --
>
> Injectors DO sometimes become touchy when cold. They need to be tested
> for pressure and spray pattern after sitting in a freezer for and hour
> or so to confirm that.
>
> Leaky delivery valve seals seem to be a little MORE troublesome when
> cold (at least at first). There is NO field test for delivery valve seals.
>
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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs FEDEX

[Desert Rat]

I have just started using this process and it is just great!

I print down the mailing label and pay for the postage all at the same
time. Actually, I do this through Ebay and Paypal most of the time
when I sell something.

We live in a rural area and know our post lady well. She takes our
packages during her normal rounds.

If I miss our Carrier, I can take the package down to our local PO and
just leave it on the counter as the Post Lady knows me. The only think
she asks is that I change the "mailed from" to her zip as she should
get credit for the handling.

This new service has saved me numerous hours and frustrationglad
to see our Postal Service becoming interactive with customer needs.

On 3/28/06, James Jetton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I work for the Postal Service so my opinion is biased.  We offer almost the 
> same services as FEDEX and UPS, there are advantages and disadvantages to 
> each service.  We do offer "Click and Ship" with carrier pickup, you might 
> want to read about it at  www. usps.com .   It may be impractical for large 
> items, but could save you some time and effort for smaller parcels.  This is 
> not a solicitation for your business, just my .02 worth.
>
>
> James Jetton
>  1987 300SDL 139k
>
> Tom Hargrave wrote:
> >> I've given up on both and ship through the post office these days.
> >>
>
> >I find the post office is cheaper for most items, but UPS becomes
> >cheaper if the item is very heavy. Also, UPS has real package tracking
> >and doesn't charge extra for it, whereas the Post Office charges extra
> >and can only tell you whether or not the carrier claims it was
> >delivered. The biggest thing for me is the convenience factor, though.
> >Going to the post office means spending 15 minutes waiting in line,
> >sometimes more if it's within a month or so of Christmas. With UPS I
> >can be done in under five minutes. The Post Office is also only open
> >until five, requiring me to sacrifice my lunch hour, while UPS is open late.
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Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

[Desert Rat]

Jim, please advise if there are any homes for sale in your
neighborhoodI desperately need you for a neighbor!

Your patience and perseverance are commendable.

On 3/28/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Remind me - what year is this car?
>
>
> Randy B
>
> -Original Message-
>
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Re: [MBZ] Those Slow Old 380 engine cars

[Desert Rat]

Bill. I would second that.

My 85 380SL is very quick off the line and keeps up very nicely with
city traffic. In the 50 to 90 mph range, it does run out of steam.

One of the reasons I wanted the 380SL was due to the fact that it
burns regular unleaded. Big factor for me today.

OTOH, am starting to get the shakes for a SL320 R129hope this
feeling goes away soon!

On 3/27/06, Bill Aston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No doubt the 380 is slower  at high RPM  than a 500 SEC/SL  but  the max 
> torque comes on quickly at about  2700RPM and the rear axle  ratio of 2.47:1  
> gives the car lots of low RPM acceleration.   I've owned a half dozen diesel 
> and gas MB cars and have never thought  my present  380 SEC was a slowpoke.   
>   A well cared for  380SL could be a great "buy". Check that the top storage 
> area is not rusty.
>
> As for "fast", among the older cars the  1979 450 SEL was a real blast to 
> drive.   Horrible gas mileage but fun on the freeways.
>
> Cheers
> Bill Aston
> Fort Lauderdale
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Re: [MBZ] Was 8500 X50 Radar Detector now My Problem

[Desert Rat]

Our turbo MB's have internal engine mods such as oilers under the
pistons, etc to handle the extra pressure and heat. Would think this
principle would apply to other engines as well.

Miata Monster (V8), now we're talking! That's one goal I have left in
my auto dream wish bag.  know I will never be able to afford a Cobra!

On 3/24/06, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I see those guys put turbos on engines on the TV shows, it's mostly a
> bolt-up job with a little drilling here and there for mounts and such.
> Does not look like any big deal if the kit is well made for the
> particular install.  No input re: engine longevity, but I would think
> replacement engines/bits of various sorts would be fairly cheap even if
> it croaked, there's a lot of Miatas out there, and a lot of hop-up
> experience with them.  If it blows up, there are V8 conversion
> kits...now that would be some fun!
>
> I hope he lets you drive it too!
>
> -R
>
> R A Bennell wrote:
>
> >Put the roll bar in to save his neck. Do not put the turbo in for the same 
> >reason.
> >
> >Plus engine longevity, tuning problems etc. If he really needs more jamb, 
> >swap for a Mustang with an 8 or something
> >else with  more power but keep it simple and cheap to fix.
> >
> >My 2 cents but free advice is worth what you pay for it etc.
> >
> >Randy B
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sunil Hari
> >Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:17 PM
> >To: Mercedes Discussion List
> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was 8500 X50 Radar Detector now My Problem
> >
> >
> >um, yeah.  what are you doing letting your kid drive a 2-seat pocket
> >rocket?  And turbocharging it only makes it more susceptible to speeding
> >tickets and accidents.
> >
> >But strictly speaking from a mechanical standpoint, installing a turbo and a
> >roll bar is very doable by you and your son (if you can maintain an old
> >benz, you can do this), but I don't think it's a one-day project.
> >
> >On 3/24/06, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>OK let's change this topic to a discussion of "turbocharging and
> >>installing
> >>a roll bar on a 2005 Miata".
> >>
> >>My son says you can purchase well-documented kits to do these mods. with
> >>ordinary tools and ordinary mechanical aptitude, and wants me to do it
> >>with
> >>him.  This will presumably foster father-son bonding.  My question is...
> >>has the child gone mad?  Isn't this something one should trust solely to
> >>professionals who do this for a living?  The work is supposed to take a
> >>day,
> >>and he would save $2k in labor charges.  The work would be done in
> >>SWMBA/O's
> >>car port, so I am naturally fearful of disabling the Miata and keeping her
> >>nice 85 300CD out in the rain... to my detriment.
> >>
> >>Any words of advice would be appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >>On 3/24/06, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:15:36 -0500 John Berryman
> >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> On Mar 24, 2006, at 3:02 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >The speedometer and odometer are driven from the speedometer cable
> >
> >
> >>in
> >>
> >>
> >parallel. One does not affect the other. (Actually, if they do, the
> >speedometer cable will break something in the speedometer head or
> >
> >
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >cable will break.)
> >
> >
> >
>   I don't know what what made me think less friction would have an
> effect, the magnet can only spin as fast as the speedo cable any way.
> 
> 
> >>>Yup, you got it. Everything has to turn as fast as the speedo cable or
> >>>something will break.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Ebay sale

[Desert Rat]

That's up to the Seller. He/she can have a "private auction" so the
ID's wouldn't show. The are both good and bad reasons to go this way.
This was an open auction so all bidders are shown.



On 3/23/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mar 23, 2006, at 9:28 PM, Desert Rat wrote:
>
> > There was no reserve.
>
>Are bidders able to be anonymous or at least not have their e-bay ID
> show to the general public? I see there is a space between all of the
> winners bids.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Ebay sale

[Desert Rat]

There was no reserve.

On 3/23/06, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Woodlandtaylors wrote:
> >
> > Group,
> >
> > Does this ebay bidding look legitimate? Why would a buyer out bid themselves
> > on the day of closing?
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4622840080
>
> I'm wondering if it was a reserve auction and the winner kept upping his bid
> until he won. Normally, if you overbid yourself, nothing changes unless your
> old winning bid was less than one bid increment above the next highest bidder.
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Re: [MBZ] Ebay sale

[Desert Rat]

Dennis, that's proper and the way Ebay works on a non reseve auction..
Buyer put in a bid for say 5K days ago. Each time a bidder put in a
number, lets say  4.5K, the winner's bid is always on top up to the
5K.

Maybe this winner put in 6K as a max (who knows) but time ran out and
he won at the lower price.

This is all legitimate and what makes for good deals if you have
sniper software or can bid in the last 5 seconds.

I got my 380SL the same way. I had put in 6K but outbid everyone else
and bought it for 4,900 in the lst 5 seconds.

Reseve auctions are different.

On 3/23/06, Woodlandtaylors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Group,
>
> Does this ebay bidding look legitimate? Why would a buyer out bid themselves
> on the day of closing?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4622840080&rd=
> 1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
>
> Dennis T
>
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Re: [MBZ] Biodegradable wiring

[Desert Rat]

ROTFLthinking back when my TR3 dash caught fire.

On 3/22/06, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:46:55PM -0800, Desert Rat wrote:
> > Speaking of, anyone know if these issues are occuring to other German
> > makes? Wonder what Audi, BMW and VW are dealing with these issues?
>
> IIRC, volvo had a similar problem. Can't remember the exact details.
>
> One could say british car wiring was unintentionally biodegradable too :)
>
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Re: [MBZ] Biodegradable wiring

[Desert Rat]

Speaking of, anyone know if these issues are occuring to other German
makes? Wonder what Audi, BMW and VW are dealing with these issues?

On 3/22/06, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:44:12 -0800 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > The wiring harnesses that Mercedes sells today as replacements are
> > > said to be identical (they carry the same part number I'm told) to the
> > > ones originally installed, but are expected to last at least 10 years
> > > even under harsh conditions.
> >
> > A whole 10 years?  Be still my heart!
>
>
> My sarcasm detector just pegged.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S Class Diesels, Bad Heads?

[Desert Rat]

Larry, there is no W140 350SDL...only a W126 300SDL. But, there is a
big differencve in interior room as compared to a W124.

On 3/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While looking at the photos of the SDL on eBay,   I just realized that the
> W124 300D looks amazingly similar to the W140 350SDL!
>
> Obviously, the interior of the W140 is much more luxurious than the W124,
> but the exterior photos really look similar - expecially when there are no
> other objects nearby to get an idea of the scale of the SDL.
>
> I thought it was an interesting observation but no one else probably will.
> ;-)
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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> - Original Message -
> From: "John Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 9:32 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] 1994 S Class Diesels, Bad Heads?
>
>
> > Did Mercedes fix the bad head issues with the S's by the 1994 year?  I was
> > looking at the biggie
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-S-350-DIESEL-S350-94-MERCEDES-RARE-IMMACULATE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6336QQitemZ4622935201QQrdZ1
> >
> > It is sad that such a comfortable body had such a vulnerable motor.
> >
> > John Peterson
> > 1991 300D 2.5 78k
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD continued

[Desert Rat]

I think the cracking has something to do with whether or not the
engine had a Trap Oxidizer and how many times the engine overheated.

On 3/18/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Same here - 292kmi on a #14 head. IIRC, Marshall was saying around 20%
> of the 603 heads were cracking, and I'm guessing that most of them
> have already done it if they're going to.
> The 603 engine in the 126 chassis is awesome!!!  That 6 inches sure
> seems like more. Rear seat passengers really appreciate it.
>
> On 3/18/06, Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Don't be afraid of the heads!! My #14 is still going strong at 284kmi!!
> >
> > There's 6 inches of extra room in the SDL!!
> >
> > Jeff Zedic
>
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> '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 S Class Diesels, Bad Heads?

[Desert Rat]

The technical term we use to describe these vehicles are "rod benders", John.
Heads were bullet proof .It's the egg shaped cylinders due to weak
rods is what caused most  of the 350 diesel engines to become boat
anchors.

You need to find one with a new MB crate engine and not just rebuilt.



On 3/18/06, John Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Did Mercedes fix the bad head issues with the S's by the 1994 year?  I was 
> looking at the biggie 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-S-350-DIESEL-S350-94-MERCEDES-RARE-IMMACULATE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6336QQitemZ4622935201QQrdZ1
>
> It is sad that such a comfortable body had such a vulnerable motor.
>
> John Peterson
> 1991 300D 2.5 78k
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Re: [MBZ] Oil question AGAIN

[Desert Rat]

I juat picked up 3 jugs of 15W50 at Wallyworld a couple of weeks ago.

They were out in a free standing aisle away from the oil section.

On 3/13/06, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wally world (and everyone else) has stopped carrying the stuff.  Mobil has
> really stopped making the 5w-40 stuff.  It's like liquid gold now.
>
> On 3/13/06, W. Lasher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm having trouble finding Mobile 1 Truck and SUV 5-W-40 in the Gal. jugs.
> > Wal-Mart here just carries 5-W-30 (is this a Diesel oil?).
> > I did find a 0-W-40 but isn't that too much of a spread?
> >
> > Walt Lasher
> > Seattle
> > 92' W140 S350 Diesel
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Re: [MBZ] Block Heater Yes or no

[Desert Rat]

My 83 300SD was sold new at Downtown LA Motors in LA. Spend all it's
life in Southern CA and it had a block heater and cord. There was no
mention of this equipment on the Window Sticker as an otion...must
have been standard equipment.

On 3/10/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> redghost wrote:
> > I always was under the impression that all the cars had block heater,
> > but not all cars had the cord.  The e300d has no cord, but being cali
> > car did get a block heater.  in L.A.
>
> Starting in the early/mid '80s all US delivered diesels had block
> heaters (but cords were dealer installed, often only if requested). Car
> delivered elsewhere didn't have heaters unless they were ordered as options.
>
> Johnny B.s 190D 2.5 and my 2.0 are Euro cars and were NOT equipped with
> block heaters from the factory. They will reliably start down to about
> 10-15 below zero F without a block heater (providing the fuel is treated
> and the preheating circuitry is working properly. Few European cars
> south of the Scandinavian countries were ordered with block heaters.
>
> Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] 55 vs 70

[Desert Rat]

Uhm, it's 175 miles to portland from seattle, not 275.

On 3/10/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Roger, you drive really slow!   You must also be way north, or doing
> round trip.  Gump made PDX from UW in a bit over 2hr 15 minutes on a
> sunday.  RT was five hours because I had to hit the head.
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2006, at 10:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >> <>
> >>
> > Lets be a little more realistic.
> >
> > Seattle to Portland, OR 275 miles
> >>
> >> @55mph.5 hours
> >
> > @70mph.3 hours 55 minutes
> >
> > One hour & five minutes more exposure to other cars. You know, those
> > other
> > incompetents.
> >
> > RLE
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Re: [MBZ] speaking of wheels

[Desert Rat]

Don, they won't fit on your W126 chassis.Your ET is approximately 25.



On 3/9/06, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lee L. wrote:
>
>
>
> "Speaking of wheels, I have a set of 4 E300 wheels on ebay . . . "
>
>
>
> Anyone know if these will fit on my car.  1990 300SEL.  According to the
> listing they are 16 x 7.5  41 et.   I have the original 15 hole wheels
> which are 15 inch.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL Alarm System

[Desert Rat]

Same location for the W126 if it is a factory alarm.

On 3/6/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just disable the bloody thing. It does basically no good anyway.
> (Think about it- when was the last time you heard a car alarm - ANY
> car alarm - and rushed out to go see what was the matter?) Find the
> black box labaled "Becker" and unplug all connectors. On a W124, it's
> located under the passenger's feet against the firwall, next to the
> red SRS connector. I'm not sure where it is on a W126 but I bet Kleb
> or someone else can edify us.
>
> If you really want to diagnose & fix it, I'd start by replacing the
> switch contacts on the driver's lock cylinder. (yes, the switch is
> available separately, no you don't need a whole new lock, like I had
> been told many moons ago...)
>
> =)
>
> -Dave M.
>
> > --
> > Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 08:23:53 -0600
> > From: "Roger Conlon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [MBZ] 300SDL Alarm System
> >
> >
> > Last night I changed a broken accelerator pedal on my 87 300SDL.
> > All I did was remove the two floor mats, then replaced the pedal.
> >
> > Now this morning went out to warm up the car for the wife, open the
> > drivers side car door and the alarm starts going off, nothing I did with the
> > master key with red dot would help.
> >
> > Locked unlocked the car, started and shut it off, lock an unlocked the alarm
> > was still sounding or would start again.
> > Not much help reading the owners manual.
> >
> > Is there a wire or switch I could have knocked off putting the floor mats
> > in? I started  the car after replacing the pedal an move the car and it was
> > fine. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Roger
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Re: [MBZ] 124 8 hole wheels

[Desert Rat]

Don,
couple of months ago I did the same thing to the W140 (no son to blame!).

Tires were fair, wheels were fair to poor and found out that the PO
had 8" on the rear and 7.5" on the frt. So, I was already making plans
to start over.

For about 800 bucks, TR sold me 4 new knock-off wheels and 4 Kuhmo
Tires, mounted and balanced. Drop shipped to the  local MB dealer in 2
days and I was back on the road. Luckily, I had no body or suspension
damage.

It has been a perfect installation and have been extremely happy with
no need to take it back for adjustments.

Yes, I do have a set of lugs for the spare tucked away but at least
all 4 wheels are now of the same variety.

If you're going used, be sure to get the right offset. The 8 holes
where used on the W140 and the C class as well.

On 3/5/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My snow tires are on those wheels - they are very close to the factory
> rims. If I can't get a couple of factory wheels, I go the Tire Rack
> route. I don't like the fact that they use different lug bolts though
> --  I like to keep such things standard.
>
> >
> > There were some Borbot after market 8 hole look-alike wheels (sold by
> > Tire Rack) that were very reasonably priced. I've been using a set for
> > 5-6 years and have been VERY pleased.
> >
> > Marshall
>
> --
> OK Don, KD5NRO
> Norman, OK
> '90 300D 243K, Rattled
> '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
> '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
> '78 450SLC 67K, brown car
> '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
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1996 Sidekick 57K "Kermit"

Re: [MBZ] 1996 300D on E-bay

[Desert Rat]

Peter, look closely at the drivers door bottom inside front
edge...looks like that might be rust which this model is known to have
serious problems with. And also applies to some front suspension
members as well.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program...lusting after MB's.

On 3/3/06, Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I realy like this:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-1996-E300D-Diesel-Low-Miles-Records-Extra-Clean-NO-RESERVE-40-Pics_W0QQitemZ4616601261QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Maybe I should stop looking
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter T. Arnold
>
> 1987 300SDL  239KMI
> 1995 F-250 PowerChoke  190Kmi
> 1954 Mertopolitan Convertable, Hanger Queen
> Wife has a Cruizer, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!
>
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1985 380SL 145K "Blue Belle"
1996 Sidekick 57K "Kermit"

Re: [MBZ] Hyundai vs MB

[Desert Rat]

John,
not to alarm you but there has been some real problems with MB and the
early FSS (started in 98) system and not using Mobil 1. Sludging and
engine damage resulted from these extended oil change intervals.

MB lost a lawsuit and now have extended the warranties and picked up
engine repairs for these models.

If it were my MB, I would be sure it has Mobil 1 in the crankcase and
change it out right now.

Now, what were we saying about Honda and Toyota's?

On 2/26/06, John W. Reames III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Curt Raymond wrote:
> > It's not just the Toyotas and Hondas, - when I owned a MB parts &
> > accessories mail order business I heard all kinds of things -- people would
> > say, "It's an $80,000 automobile - I should *never* have to check or add
> > oil!!"  Unfortunately he was serious.  Didn't bother to ask him about the
> > brake fluid of ATF changes - all he wanted was Chrome wheels. ;-\
>
> Speaking of that, I check my oil regularly, and finally had to add a quart
> to the '99 E300TD, 10.5K mi into my stewardship. (It is a FSS car, bought
> from a stealership, and the FSS counter was at 9100 when I bought it. The
> counter now sits at 2100, 3.5 mos and 10.5K mi later) I don't know if its
> because the 606 is a tighter engine or if it is because it is highway
> mileage, but I'm impressed :)
> -j.
>
>
>
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1992 500 SEL 140K "Stardust"
1985 380SL 145K "Blue Belle"
1996 Sidekick 57K "Kermit"

Re: [MBZ] Mogs

[Desert Rat]

Hi Kelly,

What part of the Mojave Desert?
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1992 500 SEL 140K "Stardust"
1985 380SL 145K "Blue Belle"
1996 Sidekick 57K "Kermit"

Re: [MBZ] daffy

[Desert Rat]

I agree 100% with you Roger.

A Porsche is something you find down south that people and their dogs
sit on and whittle.

A Por-she is something you can drive the snot out of.

On 2/22/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ha.
> Mer-say-des
>
> Bob Rentfro
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] daffy
>
>
> > <>
> >
> > I get it. Now tell me how to pronounce Mercedes.
> >
> > RLE
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1992 500 SEL 140K "Stardust"
1985 380SL 145K "Blue Belle"
1996 Sidekick 57K "Kermit"

Re: [MBZ] Daffodil

[Desert Rat]

I think it was the DAFI2 syllables.

On 2/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <>
>
> i'm thinking it was some kind of belt. But then, it was a tiny car with a
> no-horsepower engine which do make a difference.
>
> RLE
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1992 500 SEL 140K "Stardust"
1985 380SL 145K "Blue Belle"
1996 Sidekick 57K "Kermit"

Re: [MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)

[Desert Rat]

That toggle switch might be for the passenger side mirror. Manuals can
be had on Ebay or call MBUSA for a new one.

Larry, why are your diesels running so cold? Diesels need to run
warmer than what you have indicated.

Sounds like a great car...what color is it?
On 2/18/06, Werner Fehlauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Larry - you need to be more specific on the "toggle on the console".  I'm
> sure we can tell you what each switch does, if we know which one you are
> wondering about.
> As for the rear headrests, they pull up manually, and the console switch
> drops them for improved rear visibility.  And where is this "button with a
> circle and arrows"?
> I have the original owner's manual for my 1990 2.5, and can scan in/copy any
> pages you might need.
>
> Werner
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 11:21 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] Got my New 300D !!! ;-)
>
>
> > Oh MAN!  How am I ever going to be able to drive my 240D again after that
> > 300D??  It's SO FREAKIN QUIET!!   I'm in LOVE!!  ;-)  Smooth, starts
> > instantly, everything works!  I even figured out the little button next to
> > the seat adjusting levers that raise & lower the front seat headrest! So
> > col..  It's everything ya'll said it was and MORE!   Accelerates like
> > crazy!  ;-)  Yep, I'm thrilled with it!
> >
> > Now, the only thing that I haven't figured out is the little toggle on the
> > console does?  It's kinda loose so either it's broke or just loose.
> > So what's it supposed to do?
> >
> > The climate control works perfectly - checked AC when we 1st test drove it
> > and the heater today - it was 70F yesterday and in the 30's today with
> > snow!
> > Crazy weather.  Even the little temp in the dash works.  Oil pressure is
> > normal - pegs as soon as the accel pedal is pressed and the coolant temp
> > stays a 1/4" or so below the 80C mark.  Just like my 240D.  Door locks
> > work,
> > antenna works, all lights works, etc. etc.  ya'll don;t want to hear all
> > the
> > details..
> >
> > Another question - The rear seat head rests - there's a button to lower
> > them
> > on the dash (I think) - but how are they raised?  Also, there's a button
> > with a circle and arrows on it - ??
> >
> > The books I got are the Service Booklet, Radio Controls & Operation,
> > Service
> > Locations and some other single page things.  But I need a Owners Manual -
> > what's the best source?  Sure,, I can do a search and I'm sure Performance
> > sells them - but I'd like to get the best price.  What about junk yards?
> > Do
> > they sell them?
> >
> > Thanks for answering all my questions about this (and the other) cars -
> > it's
> > great to have such a huge source of intelligent information!!
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D)
> > A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> > For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> > Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> > http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
>
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1992 500 SEL 140K "Stardust"
1985 380SL 145K "Blue Belle"
1996 Sidekick 57K "Kermit"

Re: [MBZ] Green fuel pumps and nozzles

[Desert Rat]

BP has been doing that for a few years now, Bad idea!

On 2/16/06, wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Saw several regular gas pumps at local station coupla days ago with
> promenant green markings on pumps and nozzle handles identical to the diesel
> ones, 'cept words "regular" and "diesel" in small letters on the pumps.
> 'Pointed them out to wife; just hope she doesn't go back there.
>
> Wilton
>
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[MBZ] Unimog

[Desert Rat]

Can't remember who has the Unimog, Jim Cathey perhaps?

Anyway, I know of one in the CA Central Valley at an MB shop and he
needs some info and might even sell it.

Any particular Unimog List out there I could pass on to my friend?
Thanks in advance,

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Palm Springs, CA
1992 500 SEL 140K "Stardust"
1985 380SL 145K "Blue Belle"