Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Sounds like my house will be a good candidate - there is a void from
first to second floor with more than enough room for a 2 inch plastic
pipe.  Another home-improvement project to add to the list...

-Max (who still has a shower out of commission going on four years -
lucky we have two!) 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:35 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

I did, many years ago.

I ran the pipe for the second floor up through a closet on the main
floor into a closet on the 2nd floor and then put the outlet through the
back wall of the closet into the hallway. Pipe is about 2 inches
diameter  if my memory is right.  Our 2 story house has a duct chase in
one spot that permits heating ducts, plumbing etc to go from the
basement to the 2nd floor. I used that as the spot for one of the main
floor outlets.

Our house has a full basement and the vacuum unit is mounted in the
basement.  Has worked well for about 25 years. Put a new motor in it a
year or so ago. Think the old one just needs bearings and brushes so I
kept it but SWMBO was very anxious to have it fixed and insisted we swap
motors ASAP. It had become intermittent. Sometimes would not start.

Ours uses the white pipe. I think if I had to do it over, I would use
the clear pipe. I once had to find a blockage and cut it out to fix the
problem. Clear pipe would have made it easier to do that.  The blockage
was a piece of dowel about 2 inches long from kid's toys. Got caught on
a T and would not turn the corner.

Randy

On 07/12/2010 6:39 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
wrote:
> Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum?  My house is two 
> story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well.
>
> I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping

> is required for central vac?
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
>
> I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and 
> installed systems in IBM, AT&T and DuPont labs at Research Triangle 
> Park, Raleigh, etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing

> boy-student '68-'71.
> Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I 
> "made"
> using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left 
> over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to 
> operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed 
> air through a venturi.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "LWB250"
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
>
>
> Central vacs are definitely the way to go.  While the initial upfront 
> cost is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system 
> blows
> (sucks?) away any portable vac.
>
> Not to mention not having to empty it out buy maybe once or twice a 
> year...
>
> We have built a couple of homes with central vacs, and I would do it 
> again without hesitation.
>
>
> Dan
>
> --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
>> From: Curt Raymond
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
>> To: "Diesel List"
>> Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM Central vac beats them 
>> all, we've got a cheap one and it'll put a drunk sorority girl to 
>> shame...
>> Get too close to one of those plastic grocery bags and
>> *sluurrpp* its gone!
>>
>> I also like that we only need to empty the thing once a year, no bags

>> either...
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:06:38 -0500
>> From: "Allan Streib"
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners 
>> Message-ID:<1291471598.9250.1408627...@webmail.messagingengine.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> We
>>   have an Oreck. It's a good vacuum, better than the Royal it 
>> replaced, but I don't think they really live up to the legend. Open 
>> one up to change the belt---it's all plastic and the motor doesn't 
>> look like much. Hotels use them because they are light and they 
>> vacuum every day---they never have to pick up a lot of deep dirt.
>>
>> For pure
>> suction, I

Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Thanks Wilton - somehow I knew that the originator of the $2 oil sucker
would have BTDT...

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:04 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

Yes, many.  Usually, very easily; 'last one I retrofitted was the 3500
SF 105-year Georgian colonial revival (basement and crawlspace, 2 story,
walk-up attic) house I've lived in for 22 years.  I've often been able
to find a "chase" big enough or, at times, the back corner of a closet.

2" thin-wall plastic piping; 10' lengths + all fittings, couplings, etc.

Nutone is one brand I remember right now.  'Several other brands, too. 
Check building supply, Lowes, etc.
'Don't think my main supplier, Pullman, of 30 years ago does domestic
vacs any more; they build lots of commercial, industrial vac equip.

Is crawlspace near the access door tall enough for power unit, or is
attic easily accessible enough for power unit?  Power unit could also go
in garage or utility closet.

Wilton

----- Original Message -
From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners


> Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum?  My house is two
> story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well.
>
> I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping
> is required for central vac?
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
>
> I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and
installed
> systems in IBM, AT&T and DuPont labs at Research Triangle Park,
Raleigh,
> etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing boy-student
> '68-'71.
> Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I
> "made"
> using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left
> over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to
> operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed
air
> through a venturi.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "LWB250" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
>
>
> Central vacs are definitely the way to go.  While the initial upfront
> cost
> is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system blows
> (sucks?) away any portable vac.
>
> Not to mention not having to empty it out buy maybe once or twice a
> year...
>
> We have built a couple of homes with central vacs, and I would do it
> again
> without hesitation.
>
>
> Dan
>
> --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
>> From: Curt Raymond 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
>> To: "Diesel List" 
>> Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM
>> Central vac beats them all, we've got
>> a cheap one and it'll put a drunk sorority girl to shame...
>> Get too close to one of those plastic grocery bags and
>> *sluurrpp* its gone!
>>
>> I also like that we only need to empty the thing once a
>> year, no bags either...
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:06:38 -0500
>> From: "Allan Streib" 
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
>> Message-ID: <1291471598.9250.1408627...@webmail.messagingengine.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> We
>>  have an Oreck. It's a good vacuum, better than the Royal
>> it replaced,
>> but I don't think they really live up to the legend. Open
>> one up to
>> change the belt---it's all plastic and the motor doesn't
>> look like
>> much. Hotels use them because they are light and they
>> vacuum every
>> day---they never have to pick up a lot of deep dirt.
>>
>> For pure
>> suction, I think our Kenmore canister has the Oreck beat by
>> a fair
>> margin. It's not as easy to use or nearly as light,
>> though.
>>
>> Allan
>>
>> On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:00 -0800, "Kevin Kraly" 
>> wrote:
>> > They've been making Orecks wit

Re: [MBZ] What big-ticket items would I need to be wary of for this?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Back to the rear suspension; look at the body at the places where the
sub-frame bushings seat.  If you see cracks, that is pretty typical.
Again, big money to fix, but my wagon has had them for years and no ill
effect that I can discern.  Can be used as negotiation point.  Later
years have improved strength in the same area.

-Max

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:09 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What big-ticket items would I need to be wary of for
this?

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Allan Streib 
wrote:
> Thinking of going to look at this.
>
> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/2079630303.html
>

I agree with everything Loren cited, plus:

Wiggly back end in high-speed corners: needs suspension rebuilt (big $$
if you have it done, hours of lying on your back swearing if you do it
yourself)

A/C not really cold (hard to test in the winter): might need new
evaporator (ditto)

Oil all over front of engine: needs new timing cover seals

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Craigslist archive?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Does the Wayback Machine (aka Internet Archive) work for this sort of
stuff?

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of David Bruckmann
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 7:38 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist archive?

Yes, the email bounces.

Through search term trickery (creeping forwards through the posting so
that it shows proximate words) I was able to coax Google into showing me
the other cached pieces of the ad, which did not include a phone number.
Alas.

But surely somewhere out there is a CL archive...???

D.

Mitch Haley wrote:
>
>Does mail to sale-duczw-2068144...@craigslist.org
>bounce?
>
>>David Bruckmann wrote:
>>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I'm looking for a car for a colleague and saw a 1979 or 80 SD for sale
nearby on CL. It had been posted my times. The posting has since
expired, so I can't call the seller. There does not appear to be any way
to retrieve a cached copy of this, which is odd because I've been able
to do it before!
>>
>>Anyone with a trick, I'd be most appreciative. Text of header is
below:
>>
>>
>>Mercedes Diesel 300SD - $1950 (menlo park). Date: 2010-11-18, 5:24PM
PST Reply to: sale-duczw-2068144...@craigslist.org. Runs great. A/C
blows ice cold...
>>sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/2068144833.html
>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum?  My house is two
story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well.

I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping
is required for central vac?

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners

I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed
systems in IBM, AT&T and DuPont labs at Research Triangle Park, Raleigh,
etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing boy-student
'68-'71. 
Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I
"made" 
using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left
over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to
operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed air
through a venturi.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "LWB250" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners


Central vacs are definitely the way to go.  While the initial upfront
cost 
is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system blows 
(sucks?) away any portable vac.

Not to mention not having to empty it out buy maybe once or twice a
year...

We have built a couple of homes with central vacs, and I would do it
again 
without hesitation.


Dan

--- On Sat, 12/4/10, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> From: Curt Raymond 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
> To: "Diesel List" 
> Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM
> Central vac beats them all, we've got
> a cheap one and it'll put a drunk sorority girl to shame...
> Get too close to one of those plastic grocery bags and
> *sluurrpp* its gone!
>
> I also like that we only need to empty the thing once a
> year, no bags either...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:06:38 -0500
> From: "Allan Streib" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
> Message-ID: <1291471598.9250.1408627...@webmail.messagingengine.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> We
>  have an Oreck. It's a good vacuum, better than the Royal
> it replaced,
> but I don't think they really live up to the legend. Open
> one up to
> change the belt---it's all plastic and the motor doesn't
> look like
> much. Hotels use them because they are light and they
> vacuum every
> day---they never have to pick up a lot of deep dirt.
>
> For pure
> suction, I think our Kenmore canister has the Oreck beat by
> a fair
> margin. It's not as easy to use or nearly as light,
> though.
>
> Allan
>
> On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:00 -0800, "Kevin Kraly" 
> wrote:
> > They've been making Orecks with the same basic design
> for 47 years, man
> > that's a long time! The new one has a LED light on
> the front, hepa outer
> > bag and hepa filter bags as well. We'll see how it
> stacks up to the
> > Dyson
> > DC14 and the old Kirby Heritage II Legend. We have
> plenty of a challenge
> > for any vacuum with two low shedding Labradoodle guide
> dogs, a high
> > shedding
> > retired black Lab, a Lhasa Apso, a Maltese and a few
> cats.
> >
> > Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Door Lock lubricant for '95 124

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Thanks John - so probably the little can of pressurized lubricant from
MB will be fine?

-Max 

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:49 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Door Lock lubricant for '95 124

I would think that graphite should be verboten...

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On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:35, "Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310"  wrote:

> Dieselvolk,
> 
> What is the proper lube to use in the door tumbler and trunk tumbler 
> on a late model 124 which still has a working alarm system?
> 
> When really cold (below 40 deg F) my 'new' sedan will sound the alarm,

> upon unlocking the car from the trunk and then opening the trunk or 
> door; opening from the driver's door does not sound the alarm.
> 
> When warm, no problem.
> 
> Does this sound like a lubrication problem, or a deeper problem?
> 
> Very respectfully,
> /s/
> Max Dillon
> '87 300TD 333k miles
> '95 E300 277k miles (no longer a project!!!)
> '73 Balboa 20
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Old Airliners

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I rode in the cockpit of a C-17 from Charleston to Germany a few years ago, at 
night.  The very scary part was being at least 10 years older than all of the 
officers in the cockpit (and I'm only about 40).  The 'Chief' in charge of the 
cargo hold was the only other crew member about my age.  In the cockpit, the 
configurable displays for the left and right seat were fun to watch.  Once we 
were at cruising altitude, one was used for navigation and weather, and the 
rest were used for engine vitals.

-Max

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On 
Behalf Of LWB250
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 8:53 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old Airliners

I did Detroit to Schipol (Amsterdam) in the crew's bunk room one time.  On 
747-300/400 models they sometimes had a small bunk room at the top of the 
stairs in the forward part of the business class cabin.  When they flew longer 
routes, such as trans-Pacific where they had two crews on board, the off duty 
crew billeted in the bunk room.

In this case we had taken off from Detroit, shortly after which my seat back 
broke, preventing it from staying upright.  The plane was full, so the cabin 
crew was was running around trying to find accommodations for me.  I pulled out 
my "airmans certificate" and suggested that I would be more than happy to ride 
jump seat the rest of the way.  They took it and went forward to the flight 
deck, then came back and did a "follow me."

"Woo-hoo!" I thought to myself - a trans Atlantic crossing on the flight deck!  
As we neared the door to the flight deck we made an abrupt left into the bunk 
room, where the first officer greeted me and pointed at the bunks and a small 
jump seat.  "Make yourself at home, we're not going to be using it."

It wasn't business class, but it was nice to be able to lay down and snooze 
while watching inflight movies

I had an associate who was also a private pilot who did get to make an Atlantic 
crossing in the jump seat on a 747 once.  He said it was pretty boring...

Dan


--- On Fri, 12/3/10, Rich Thomas  wrote:

> From: Rich Thomas 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old Airliners
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 11:17 PM I had the pleasure once of 
> seat 1A in First Class on a BA flight from Boston to London, and since 
> no one was in the aisle I moved there, sitting in the upper deck of 
> the B747 right behind the flight deck, the door to which remained open 
> during taxi and takeoff, and a good part of the flight.  I wandered up 
> there and chatted with the pilots awhile after my first cocktail while 
> working on the second, before supper, it was great fun.  Once at 
> cruise altitude out over the water, they really had very little to do.
> 
> First Class on BA is a very enjoyable experience.  One wanted a longer 
> flight so as to enjoy all the goodies on offer.
> 
> --R
> 
> On 12/3/2010 10:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > Yea I remember being able to go up to the cockpit for
> a visit.  How things have changed.
> > 
> > On 12/3/2010 1:39 PM, E M wrote:
> >> Another plane I enjoyed flying on when I was a
> kid, was Vickers VC10s.  The
> >> cockpit was like a stately sitting room.
> That was back in the days when
> >> kids and teens were allowed up to chat with the
> pilots, and even push a few
> >> buttons if you were lucky!  :-)  I think
> the British Air Force still have
> >> several in their fleet.
> >> 
> >> Ed
> >> 300E
> >> 
> > 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] M115 2.2 strange distributor lockup

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Dave,

I once had a vacuum advance apart on a '79 BMW 528i, and it didn't look
too intimidating to me.  Earlier models should be even more simple - I
say go for it. 

-Max

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:33 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] M115 2.2 strange distributor lockup

What are you looking for?  It is really simple.  take off the cap and
rotor.
take out the points.  I am assuming yours has the condenser external.
Un hook the vacuum advance and remove it from the side.
At this point, I can't remember exactly, there may be a c or E clip
around the shaft, or perhaps the points plate just lifts out At that
point, you should see the mechanical advance.  I am pretty sure it is
held in with a C or E clip.

There is an upper bearing and a lower bearing.  I think from MB these
are NLA, but any machine shop can fit new ones.  Any play you can see or
feel is too much.

The gear comes off the shaft, and the shaft comes out the top.




>OK, I know this is sort of a legacy diesel-list crowd, but has anyone 
>actually dismantled a Bosch distributor from this era? Am I going to 
>regret trying to do this because special tools and gregorian 
>incantations are required? If it is do-able, where do I start to gain 
>easiest inspection access to the advance weights without messing up 
>something?
>
>All hints are appreciated...
>
>D.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Old Airliners

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

AMEN!  I had some training to survive the following hours/days - glad I
never had to do that either!

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 3:02 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old Airliners

I did a LOT of training to fly within Russia (USSR); y'all oughta be
glad I was ready but never did.  ;<))

Wilton

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Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old Airliners


>I had a friend who did a lot of flying within Russia.  He said each
flight
> was different, and a bit of an adventure.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 3 December 2010 12:43, Greg Fiorentino 
wrote:
>
>> The Antonov 225 is a very cool aircraft.  I have been aboard one, 
>> although
>> not to fly.
>>
>> I have not heard good things about the Ilyushin passenger aircraft.
I 
>> have
>> been aboard a few of these also, again only on the ground.  These
have 
>> had
>> luxuriously appointed interiors used for transporting diplomatic 
>> personnel.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com 
>> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
>> On Behalf Of E M
>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:20 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old Airliners
>>
>> Some great old birds!  I loved the 707.  I was pretty fond of the
L1011
>> too.  I've never been on any Soviet era planes, but I think it would
be
>> pretty cool to try a few.  I always thought the Soviets built cool 
>> looking
>> planes.
>>
>> Ed
>> 300E
>>
>> On 3 December 2010 09:02, Rich Thomas
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/12/classic-airliners-gallery/?pid=380&;
view
>>
all=true
>> >
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[MBZ] Door Lock lubricant for '95 124

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Dieselvolk,

What is the proper lube to use in the door tumbler and trunk tumbler on
a late model 124 which still has a working alarm system?

When really cold (below 40 deg F) my 'new' sedan will sound the alarm,
upon unlocking the car from the trunk and then opening the trunk or
door; opening from the driver's door does not sound the alarm.

When warm, no problem.

Does this sound like a lubrication problem, or a deeper problem?

Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 333k miles
'95 E300 277k miles (no longer a project!!!)
'73 Balboa 20
Charleston SC



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Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Do you have proof, or internet rumor?

-Max 

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:48 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One

You all are aware that they changed M1 to where its just a hydrocracked
group 3 oil now?  Not worth the price if you ask me.

On 11/30/2010 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> I put an email in to them and asked about that very thing as it seemed
that way on the website.
> Still the 15w50 is a pretty dammed good oil and at that price I may
pick up 12 quarts...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34:17 -0500
> From: glenn brown To:
> Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> I
>   stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and
> was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale.
>
> G. M. Brown
> Brevard, NC  
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I use the 0w-40 in my 124.193 (OM603) and it seems to like it just fine.
I prefer to use the 5w-40 when I can find it.  MB approves it for that
engine.

http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/bevo-sheets-sort1.html

Check sheet 229.3

-Max 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40

> but 5W40 was OK.

Do any manufacturers recommend 0W40, I wonder?  I can't see needing to
use 0W-anything, even a good synthetic, unless you lived somewhere
ridiculously cold like inner Alaska.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

M1 0w-40 and 5w-40 are approved by MB, but I can't find that 15w-50 is. 

http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/bevo-sheets-sort1.html

-Max

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Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One

glenn brown wrote:
> I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and
was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale.


1. you have to buy it online for in store pickup. Limit 12 quarts per
order.
2. It works on 15W50 and 0W40 but I can't get it to work on 5w40

Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40
but 5W40 was OK.

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Re: [MBZ] Rear end fun

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Manfred,

Check the price for those from Rusty - I'm guessing less than $150 for a
set?  EPC shows two different part numbers for a 123.193; up to VIN
ending in F003436, 115 324 38 04 (price list from January says $150
each!! Ouch!), after F003437, 123 324 06 04.  Rent the spring
compressor, and the job will be much faster.  I see from a later post
that you plan to replace the rubber cap - won't have to touch them again
for 10 years or so.

Doesn't make sense to me that one side was lower, but returned to normal
after the car was started, unless that SLS valve I sold you is leaking
down the base pressure AND one side spring is stronger than the other,
like you describe.  Any sign of leaking from the struts?  Does the
return line at the reservoir go drip-drip-drip after the engine has been
shut off for 10 or 20 minutes? That drip-drip-drip means that the base
pressure valve is leaking.

My 123.190 had two bad springs; one weak spring in the front, and one
broken spring in the rear.  Once I replaces those and all the rubber
front and rear, it sat within factory spec of correct level and road
like a dream (for a 123).

-Max 

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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 7:49 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Rear end fun

Well I had a lot of fun yesterday. I dropped the rear end in my
83 300TD. Found the springs both the same so replaced the upper spring
rubbers and put in the level controller I got from Max.

It took about 4 hours and now everything is working back there.

All the other rubber parts on the rear end seem to be good so I guess I
won't be having to replace any of those any time soon.

This morning I found the left side 1" lower then the right in the back
but after starting the engine it all came up to the right height again.
Same as it has been. Given that the rubber is good and the unladen
length of the springs is the same as well as the same dia. steel and
both also red so I would think they are the same I can only guess that
the left spring is somehow weaker then the right.  I wonder if I can
find a set of new 123 324 38 04 red springs. But then I would need to
drop the rear end again. Oh well something to think about.

Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] The Red 190D makes it to work!

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Congrats!  Just crested the same peak - got my '95 E300 together in time
for a trip to The City (NY NY if you must ask).  1500+ miles in four
days of driving, two days of work in the middle.  Rode like a dream: new
shocks on the rear, all five links on rear either replaced or bushings
replaced, new lower ball joints on front, new tie rods and steering
shock, new idler arm bushings, new Balo rotors and Akebono ceramic pads
at all corners, four wheel alignment and wheels balanced.  Car returned
just over 30 miles for every gallon of #2 ULSD, cruising about 80 mph as
traffic and conditions permitted.

-Max 

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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 5:32 PM
To: Diesel List
Cc: Dwight Giles
Subject: [MBZ] The Red 190D makes it to work!

Finally the saga of the 190D seems to be winding down. I drove it the 55
miles to work today with very little drama. The front end seems loose so
I sent a note to Rusty for the outer and center tie rods and damper. I
forgot the idler arm but I can get that locally (Moog no less) for the
same money. I figure I'll do it now and just not worry about it.

A couple little things, traffic was really heavy and it wanted to
overheat, my '85 190D did exactly the same so I dunno, it seems unlikely
they both had bad fan clutches, I'll need to investigate... Its also got
a rattle that I'll make another post about in a sec.

Anyway I'm well pleased, I've had the thing almost a year, time to start
rolling some miles on!

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] 124 torque steer?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I think that about $500 in new rear links and bushings will fix that, throw in 
a new set of shocks for good measure.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Thu 11/25/2010 9:11 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] 124 torque steer?



I have noticed on my 87 300D when going down the highway about
about 60 or so, if you floor it the torque seems to push the rear
end to the right a little bit.  What would cause that?  Something
worn out in the back would be my guess.

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Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Dieselhead wrote "Plus if the master is adjusted
per the procedure Max posted, it can't self bleed.  It probably would
if you adjusted the eccentric so that the fluid WOULD flow up into
the master.  That should allow self-bleeding, except maybe the slave,
depending on how it is oriented."

I think that the procedure I posted would still allow it to self-bleed, because 
of the 1 mm spacer used.  Once the spacer is pulled out, the clutch pedal and 
the master cylinder rod would move back, and open the internal ports which 
allow the fluid and air to freely flow up/down?  I don't know, never used the 
procedure I posted, I simply installed the new parts, drove around in first 
gear until they self-bled and worked, and left good enough alone.  Maybe I got 
lucky.
 
Is it better to be lucky or good?
 
-Max




From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Dieselhead
Sent: Wed 11/24/2010 8:45 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?



The 110 diesels would self bleed if you just opened the bleed screw a
little.  When it dripped a steady stream, close the bleeder.  I
usually tried then to let is sit overnight in case any lil air
bubbles are trapped inside.  Apparently the tube routing is more
complicated on 123 and newer cars.  Plus if the master is adjusted
per the procedure Max posted, it can't self bleed.  It probably would
if you adjusted the eccentric so that the fluid WOULD flow up into
the master.  That should allow self-bleeding, except maybe the slave,
depending on how it is oriented.

>Concur, that's why I recommended and successfully have used the
>procedure that Marshall Booth promoted: allow it to self bleed by
>driving around in first gear for a few minutes.  Worked great on a 123
>and a 201.
>
>-Max
>
>-Original Message-
>From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
>[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of David Bruckmann
>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:31 AM
>To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?
>
>This sounds awfully complicated. On my 115, I just opened the bleed
>screw, moved the pedal up and down a few times, and called it a day.
>Seems to be working fine ever since.
>
>Someone wrote:
>>  The problem is for this one you can't use the brake system because
>>  that system being a closed system it can't make the level in the MC
>>  rise, you MUST have a pressure bleed device, which I don't.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Yep!
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Craig
Sent: Tue 11/23/2010 9:39 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?



On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:27:49 -0500 "Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310"  wrote:

> I bought the Motive power bleeder with attachment for MB reservoirs
> (about $40 plus shipping IIRC), and it is mighty nice to use (when
> properly set-up so it doesn't leak).  Some extra pieces and parts would
> be needed to attach to the clutch slave bleeder nipple - should be
> available for about $3 at local hardware store.

Like the attached picture shows?


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Inner bushings; outer bushings are actually pressed into the wheel carrier (the 
only bushing out of the five links that attach to the wheel carrier).
 
I suspect that one could make a tool for the inner bushings cheaply with a 
piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod, some pipe of the right inner diameter, and big 
washers and a socket, and do the job at leisure.
 
I'm probably not going to be done with the S.T. tool for the outer bushing 
until January - did you need it sooner?
 
Let me know if you also find the inner bushing sleeve to be tapered.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of OK Don
Sent: Wed 11/24/2010 7:39 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun



Are you refering to the inner or outer bushing? Are you replacing both of
them? Mine has 350,000 miles - and will be starting this job when the new
bushings arrive (Rusty - they're NOT here yet!).

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  wrote:

> 124 Fans,
>
> Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a shop
> to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in.  We found
> that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be tapered,
> so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when starting
> at the wide end.  At first the technician thought I had bushings that
> were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve rather loosely (I
> had managed to extract one bushing partially).  He measured the new
> bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, and found the new
> to be slightly larger than the old.
>
> Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links?  Car as
> 275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been
> worked on.  The FSM does not mention this.
>
> Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require
> less and less force.  I had been trying to press out the bushing the
> wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would
> have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and part
> of a pipe).
>
> When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring
> link and which direction to move the bushing.  I'm also going to get a
> piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I
> stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store.
>
> -Max
> --
>
OK Don
2001 ML320
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Re: [MBZ] OT Need computer help

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Another one is called Windows Ultimate Boot CD (I think); when I forgot the 
password for an old laptop, colleague burned me a copy of this so that I could 
reset the password.  Same CD has lots of other tools on which are really meant 
for professionals or people who can afford to spend a lot of time playing 
around.
 
-Max



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Sent: Wed 11/24/2010 12:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Need computer help



I had some old box that had a password on it, I found some unix boot
program you put on a CD (which one of those things might have been) that
would bring the computer to life, find the winders password file, and
give you an option to change or remove it.  Worked great, took about 5
min to do.

--R

On 11/24/10 12:53 PM, Craig wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:33:26 -0600 Dieselhead<126die...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>   
>> If you don't need anything on the computer now, I'd suggest a clean
>> install of XP Pro if you have it.  Or a clean install of anything.
>> THat should eliminate whatever garbage the employees put on it.
>> 
> Yes, that's a very good idea!
>
> Get rid of all of the viruses, trojans, adware, and other nasty stuff.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Craig,
 
This is the outer bushing for the spring link on rear suspension (aka lower 
control arm).  The bushing is actually pressed into the wheel carrier, not the 
spring link; sorry for the confusion.
 
I highly recommend this tool - really makes the job sooo easy.  The old 
bushings were REALLY loose and sloppy, and easy to move around with finger and 
thumb.  New bushings are very stiff compared to the old.  I think that probably 
50% of the negative camber in my car's rear suspension was due to these old 
bushings.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Craig
Sent: Wed 11/24/2010 12:48 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?



On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:37:55 -0500 "Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310"  wrote:

> Got the tool last night; it works really well! The right tool for the
> job makes like so nice...
>
> http://www.toolsource.com/advanced_search_result.php?search=1&query=m0085&x=0&y=0

I'm glad that it works well.


> This tool has a thrust bearing in the pull side of the tool, and
> fit/finish were about 9 out of 10.

Better, then, than the tools I bought. Maybe Oliver Sir is serious about
the quality of the tools they make. I infer that he took the company over
from his father


> The acme threads were a little rough in the last half of the travel,
> but after working the tool over the full range of motion with some nice
> anti-galling never-seize paste, it was pretty smooth.

Sounds like the tools I got.


> Didn't even need a cheater bar to extract the old bushing.

Sounds like it worked like it's supposed to!


> Another note, the manual says that for some cars, the dust shield needs
> to be loosened and rotated so that the opening for the caliper allows
> access for the tool.  On my E300 the dust shield is rusted in place, but
> the tool fit fine, so I did all the work of removing the parking brake
> shoes and mechanism but in the end didn't need to do that.  Not looking
> forward to putting that back together.

I'm confused now at what bushing you were replacing. Where exactly is it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Concur, that's why I recommended and successfully have used the
procedure that Marshall Booth promoted: allow it to self bleed by
driving around in first gear for a few minutes.  Worked great on a 123
and a 201.

-Max 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:31 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

This sounds awfully complicated. On my 115, I just opened the bleed
screw, moved the pedal up and down a few times, and called it a day.
Seems to be working fine ever since. 

Someone wrote:
> The problem is for this one you can't use the brake system because 
> that system being a closed system it can't make the level in the MC 
> rise, you MUST have a pressure bleed device, which I don't.


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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Got the tool last night; it works really well! The right tool for the
job makes like so nice...

http://www.toolsource.com/advanced_search_result.php?search=1&query=m008
5&x=0&y=0

I only had time to do one bushing, which took me about 30 minutes.
We'll see how the other side works out - I'll bet that I can do it
faster than 30 minutes.  This tool has a thrust bearing in the pull side
of the tool, and fit/finish were about 9 out of 10.  The acme threads
were a little rough in the last half of the travel, but after working
the tool over the full range of motion with some nice anti-galling
never-seize paste, it was pretty smooth.  Didn't even need a cheater bar
to extract the old bushing.

Another note, the manual says that for some cars, the dust shield needs
to be loosened and rotated so that the opening for the caliper allows
access for the tool.  On my E300 the dust shield is rusted in place, but
the tool fit fine, so I did all the work of removing the parking brake
shoes and mechanism but in the end didn't need to do that.  Not looking
forward to putting that back together.

I'm going to have to do all this work again on my wagon; planning to
'make' my own puller for the inner bushing of the LCA aka spring link.

-Max

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Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 6:59 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

OK - it's a deal.

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310  wrote:

> OK, already ordered it.  I'll report on it's usefulness, and then 
> you've got first dibs once I'm done with both cars.  Only condition is

> if you sell it, advertise it here first.
>
> -Max --
>
OK Don
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1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
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Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

What year was the car that you did this work on?  I'm wondering if a
change was made mid-run.

-Max 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:52 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

I am just guessing, but i think as manufactured, there was no taper. 
But I doubt you will notice if you reuse the tapered LCA (Spring link)

>124 Fans,
>
>Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a 
>shop to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in.  We

>found that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be 
>tapered, so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when 
>starting at the wide end.  At first the technician thought I had 
>bushings that were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve 
>rather loosely (I had managed to extract one bushing partially).  He 
>measured the new bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, 
>and found the new to be slightly larger than the old.
>
>Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links?  Car as

>275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been 
>worked on.  The FSM does not mention this.
>
>Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require 
>less and less force.  I had been trying to press out the bushing the 
>wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would 
>have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and 
>part of a pipe).
>
>When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring 
>link and which direction to move the bushing.  I'm also going to get a 
>piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I 
>stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store.
>
>-Max
>Very respectfully,
>/s/
>Max Dillon
>'87 300TD 332k miles
>'95 E300 275k miles (project)
>'73 Balboa 20
>Charleston SC
>
>
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[MBZ] More 124 Rear Suspension Spring Link Fun

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

124 Fans,
 
Tonight I took the rear suspension spring links (for '95 E300) to a shop
to have the old inner bushings pressed out and new pressed in.  We found
that the spring link sleeve that holds the bushing seems to be tapered,
so that pressing in the new bushing would be much easier when starting
at the wide end.  At first the technician thought I had bushings that
were too small, as they fit into one end of the sleeve rather loosely (I
had managed to extract one bushing partially).  He measured the new
bushing and the end of the old that was sticking out, and found the new
to be slightly larger than the old.
 
Has anyone else found this, OR do I have worn-out spring links?  Car as
275k miles, I'm pretty sure that the rear suspension has never been
worked on.  The FSM does not mention this.
 
Of course, the inverse is also true; pressing out one way will require
less and less force.  I had been trying to press out the bushing the
wrong way; if I'd started going the other direction, I probably would
have succeeded with my method (long 7/16 bolt, washers, socket, and part
of a pipe).
 
When I do my wagon, I'll pay attention to flare/no flare on the spring
link and which direction to move the bushing.  I'm also going to get a
piece of 7/16 Acme threaded rod to use in place of the long bolt - I
stripped out threads on two bolts from the hardware store.
 
-Max
Very respectfully, 
/s/ 
Max Dillon 
'87 300TD 332k miles 
'95 E300 275k miles (project) 
'73 Balboa 20 
Charleston SC 


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Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Thanks for sharing that link - I learned that there is an inverse
relationship between the number of pirates and the global average
temperature (number of pirates is in steady decline, temperature is
increasing, ergo the solution is more pirates). 

-Max

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Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

As in - http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/ ???

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Rolf  wrote:

> . I'll stick to the FSM...
>
OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] 300td glow plug start problem

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Hopefully someone who knows more than I chime in and correct or add to
the following.

The gold rack-damper bolt is a revised version of the original silver
bolt, which has a stronger spring.  Marshall Booth used to advise
replacing your silver bolt on principle.  As far as I know (and I've
never owned or worked on an OM617a, only the non-turbo version which
doesn't have said bolt) this bolt is part of the injection pump and
responsible for both starting performance and idle quality.  A loping
idle is a symptom of a bolt which needs to be replaced. 

Attached is a picture: item 257 is the bolt.

Here's a quote from a Marshall Booth post on the subject of adjusting
this bolt:

"If not try readjusting the rack damper screw (on the rear of the
injection pump) outward until the engine lopes and then in only far
enough to just damp the lope (not even 1/8th turn farther)."

So once you've got the new bolt going in, carefully tighten until the
engine lope/shake is gone.  I think that if you get it too tight, the
engine will not start, so maybe you should just install the new bolt
finger tight, start the car, and adjust once the engine is at warm idle.

-Max

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Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:07 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 300td glow plug start problem

Max

What's the gold rack-damper bolt?

thanks

xx rick
From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310"

Date: November 22, 2010 1:37:30 PM EST
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td glow plug problem?
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 


Rick,

I think that 11.5 v during glow is probably within normal range.
Service manual says that the plugs are designed for the current load
when energized with 11 volts.  In other words, wiring is not the
problem, probably not a battery problem either.

We are talking about an OM617a engine, right?  Do you have the upgraded
gold rack-damper bolt?  Is it properly adjusted?

-Max
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Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I bought the Motive power bleeder with attachment for MB reservoirs (about $40 
plus shipping IIRC), and it is mighty nice to use (when properly set-up so it 
doesn't leak).  Some extra pieces and parts would be needed to attach to the 
clutch slave bleeder nipple - should be available for about $3 at local 
hardware store.

Now that I have three cars with ABS, the bleeder is pretty much a necessity.

-Max 

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Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

Including rotating that dammed eccentric bolt which is a BASTARD if I'm honest 
about it... Fortunately it just occurred to me to hold the thing with needle 
nose pliers so you can tighten the other bolt, you really can't use a wrench...

So my take on it, put a 1mm thick shim between the rubber clutch stop and the 
pedal.
Apply less than 2 bar pressure (using brake fluid) to the bleeder on the slave, 
open said bleeder and adjust the eccentric until the fluid level in the MC 
stops rising.

The problem is for this one you can't use the brake system because that system 
being a closed system it can't make the level in the MC rise, you MUST have a 
pressure bleed device, which I don't.

*sigh* time to build a pressure bleed device I guess.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:01:38 -0500
From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,    53310"
    
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?
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Here you go.  Procedure looks like it calls for a pressure bleeder to maintain 
pressure (2 bar maximum) at the bleeder screw of the slave; rather fiddly.

-Max 


  
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Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Here you go.  Procedure looks like it calls for a pressure bleeder to
maintain pressure (2 bar maximum) at the bleeder screw of the slave;
rather fiddly.

-Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

Craig wrote:
> The one I read described adjustments to make to the master's eccentric

> to start and stop fluid flow. I don't have the email any more, so I 
> cannot quote it to you.

Max - you got that still?
The english pdf pertains to the slave only.
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Clutch slave hmm....

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I concur - I read your note about the clutch pedal rising from the floor
as you pumped the brake pedal - I doubt that you did any harm at all.
Even if you replace both, you'll need to adjust the master, so figure
out that procedure and try the adjustment first before condemning
anything.

-Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch slave hmm

If it is working, why not try the clutch pedal adjust first.  As long as
it is not leaking fluid, it is most likely ok.


>So still living with the annoyingly high clutch release on my '78 
>240D. Did a search for bleeding the clutch and found a reference 
>that says that you shouldn't put the clutch pedal down while the 
>bleeder is open as it would damage the slave... I did that (didn't 
>know better) and wonder if now I've gotten the slave's plunger 
>screwed up and sticking out too far or something...
>
>I'm thinking now since there have been so many screwups I should 
>just buy a new master AND a new slave as they're not horrible 
>expensive replace 'em both and bleed properly and see whats what. At 
>least at that point I'll know they're all good bits.
>
>With luck it won't rain tomorrow (40% chance) and I'll pull the 
>slave again and see if it looks weird now...
>
>-Curt
>
>
>
>  
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Re: [MBZ] 300td glow plug problem?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Rick,

I think that 11.5 v during glow is probably within normal range.
Service manual says that the plugs are designed for the current load
when energized with 11 volts.  In other words, wiring is not the
problem, probably not a battery problem either. 

We are talking about an OM617a engine, right?  Do you have the upgraded
gold rack-damper bolt?  Is it properly adjusted?

-Max

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Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 10:58 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td glow plug problem?


On Nov 21, 2010, at 6:52 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:

>
>
>
> From: Peter Frederick 
> Date: November 21, 2010 5:26:34 PM EST
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td glow plug problem?
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>


peter, thanks a lot, read my comments
>
> Check the resistance of each plug to ground.  Red hot isn't really hot

> enough, they should be yellow, and I do NOT recommend testing them out

> of the engine, they will cause severe burns.

well, i don't touch them when i test them

they may very well go to yellow or white hot, i just stopped testing
when they started to glow

i'd like to know someone's voltage AT THE GLOW plug when they are
heating

i get about 11.5 v at the glow plug versus 12.5 or so at the relay with
the glow plugs unplugged (on the glo plug plug at the bottom of the
relay)

does the glo plug load drop the volts way down?
>
> If the resistance is anything other than about 0.9 ohm, replace them.

i can check resistance
>
> I would also suggest a valve adjustement, that's the usual cause of a 
> "lope" at idle.

we were thinking that
>
> You must also check for chain stretch -- more than 8 degrees it's time

> for a new chain as the late injection and valve timing will make 
> starting very difficult.  So will bad injectors, for that matter.

that's probably something to look at when the cover is off
>
> You must also verify that you have at least 100 rpm cranking speed
> -- if not, replace the starter.  Diesels do NOT start unless the 
> cranking speed is high enough to give full compression.

i've never heard that, but the starter sounds about as always

how do you check starter rpm
>
> I would also check for a suction side leak in the lines between the 
> fuel tank and the lift pump on the side of the IP -- rotten hoses here

> rarely leak fuel out, but the do leak air in, and air in the IP makes 
> it VERY hard to start!

good point, but probably unlikely, the hoses between the hard line and
the ip are recent black braided, but i'll look

thanks again

xx rick
>
> Peter
>
>
> Check the resistance of each plug to ground.  Red hot isn't really hot

> enough, they should be yellow, and I do NOT recommend testing them out

> of the engine, they will cause severe burns.
>
> If the resistance is anything other than about 0.9 ohm, replace them.
>
> I would also suggest a valve adjustement, that's the usual cause of a 
> "lope" at idle.
>
> You must also check for chain stretch -- more than 8 degrees it's time

> for a new chain as the late injection and valve timing will make 
> starting very difficult.  So will bad injectors, for that matter.
>
> You must also verify that you have at least 100 rpm cranking speed
> -- if not, replace the starter.  Diesels do NOT start unless the 
> cranking speed is high enough to give full compression.
>
> I would also check for a suction side leak in the lines between the 
> fuel tank and the lift pump on the side of the IP -- rotten hoses here

> rarely leak fuel out, but the do leak air in, and air in the IP makes 
> it VERY hard to start!
>
> Peter

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Re: [MBZ] very very preliminary feeler: anyone wish to buy my 83 240D?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Congrats on the coming baby!

I say keep the car.  I did a similar thing; pending birth of first
child, three cars, so sold an '84 190D with 112k miles and five speed
transmission.  The day I sold the car, I told the buyer that I'd
probably regret selling it later, and I do.

-Max

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Subject: [MBZ] very very preliminary feeler: anyone wish to buy my 83
240D?

Hello to all my old friends from the diesel list,

Been a long time since I have posted here.

Some things have changed in my life since the days I used to stay up
late reading through all the posts I had time for. I still feel my 83
240D is just about the ideal vehicle for me personally and I don't want
to own anything else. But recently my wife and I discovered we are going
to have our first child. And more recently we discovered that the child
is going to have a birth defect.

So my 240, which is one of our three cars has not made much sense for us
to own for some time now, but things just got a whole lot more serious.
Add to this the fact that it developed a clutch problem a few months ago
and I have not made time to look at it. So it continues to take up a
garage spot and not add anything to our lives except insurance and
registration costs.

To refresh your memories: No rust. Some 130 something K mi (I'd have to
run to garage and check the odo). Engine was purchased used by us and
installed and has about 10 K fewer miles than the vehicle. Manual
windows, working electric sunroof. What else? Hmmm. Torn CV boots for
which I made ingenious patches. Front end probably needs some work -
loose steering of course. Dent in rear door that is not too obvious.

Anyway, this is just a very early inquiry. I really don't want to sell.
But wanted to gauge interest here first of course.

We paid $1800 for the vehicle. Then had to pay another $1800 for a
replacement engine installed. So I don't really know what I'd be asking.
Happy to answer any questions.

Brian
who sadly did another grown-up thing and conceded that our '87 190D with
300K+ mi be sold a couple months ago
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Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Ask and you shall receive...
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Mountain Man
Sent: Sat 11/20/2010 10:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?



Max wrote:
> Catching up on my email; regarding adjusting the pedal height, I sent an 
> email for Rolf within the last several weeks that had the procedure attached 
> for adjusting the MC, I'll see if I can find and forward...
>

Put it up here, please.
I did this job - my son did this job, I watched and tried to help? -
two years ago.  I don't recall exactly what we did, nor where the
instructions were that we followed - perhaps in the MB service books?
or Haynes book? but there was a procedure for getting fluid through
the master bleed that one of the parts we tried to use did not work.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cover metal Tube ?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I think your theory of a plastic remnant from the filter getting sucked up to 
the hole on the outside of the tube and then partially sucked into the tube is 
correct.
 
I'll bet that when you pulled on it, you got it all out.  Whatever is left will 
flow back to the pan, and then either settle out and leave with the next oil 
change or get sucked up by the pump, and filtered by the oil filter, and then 
taken out.
 
Worst case would be clogging of the oil jets which cool the pistons, which 
would probably result in melted piston syndrome.
 
Maybe you can blow air through the small hole, or force oil through, and then 
catch what comes out the bottom and sample for plastic?
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of l02tur...@comcast.net
Sent: Sun 11/21/2010 12:19 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cover metal Tube ?



Thanks Max and all others who helped  ;-)  It's on the 91 300D -  the engine
seems fine.  I switched to Shell Rotella T organic 15W40 - I read they have
more Lubricity additive than other oils.

So far I cannot detect a difference other than slightly higher oil pressure
at fully warmed up idle.   I believe Shell makes a Synthetic Rotella T
(Triple T perhaps?) I may try next time.

Back to the plastic film in the metal tube - there's a ball bearing in the
tip to prevent oil flowing upward in the tube - which may be why I got so
little air when I tried to blow air from that end.I need to read the PDF
you provided -

I'll try soaking the tube in Solvent - perhaps lacquer thinner.  I still
have the piece I pulled out - will see what dissolves that the best...

Thanks to all who helped - (I'll see if I can find that nitwit who does oil
analysis)  ;-)

LarryT
91 300D

-Original Message-----
From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:43 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cover metal Tube ?

Which car?  Engine is probably toast.

Well, maybe not, after reading procedure 18-0999a on page 6 it says that
the center tube (aka return flow pipe) provides finely filtered oil back
into the oil pan.  So if this hole was plugged, flow to the engine
bearings is NOT affected, but less oil filtering is going on.

I know a fellow who sells these engine oil analysis kits, the lab
results might help determine if any damage was done?  ;)

-Max

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Subject: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cover metal Tube ?

I posted this on the 15th but rec'd no replies - I'll try again:

The long metal tube attached to the Filter Canister Cover has a hole in
the bottom and a hole near the top.  The upper hole had what appeared to
be a piece of plastic-like paper partly in the hole (like the cellopane
on a pack of cigarettes but much stronger).
I pulled it and believe all came out although I had to
tug pretty hard.I tried to blow through the tube opening with my
compressor and I got some oil seepage from the hole.   I'm assuming the
piece of "stuff" (I think I'll retrieve it from the trash) was stuck to
the filter perhaps? and came loose then was sucked into the upper hole?

Don't know how long it's been like this ---

What is the tube for?  What do the holes do?

Can the tube be removed from the cover?

Thanks -
LarryT
91 300D


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Re: [MBZ] New struts

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Access to a lathe is the issue, I have a hook-up (Rich has kindly offered to 
let me use his) but need to find the time to make use of that...
 
-Max
 
 



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Peter Frederick
Sent: Sun 11/21/2010 11:30 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New struts



If there is an outer metal sleeve, your best bet is a proper press 
and a bushing driver of the correct size that will catch the bushing 
shell but fit through the hole.

I can make one, so that's not a problem for me, but it could be it 
you cannot.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] New struts

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Unfortunately both inner and outer bushings have outer metal sleeves and inner 
metal sleeves as well.  Blue wrench will get you part of the way, but not all 
of the way.  I think that some heat would help the extraction, then maybe 
freeze the new bushing prior to insertion.  Unfortunately some new paint on the 
spring link would be needed to protect the metal after the torch burns off the 
paint.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Peter Frederick
Sent: Sat 11/20/2010 10:36 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New struts



That is just a rubber bushing, right, no steel sleeve?  We usually 
use a smoke wrench on those, then wire brush the hole clean.  They 
get super stuck, and pushing them out just doesn't work very well 
unless you soften them up some -- as in set them on fire.  At least 
you don't have to weld stiffeners on the control arms like my brother 
had to on the Mustang.

I'll have to acquire the bushings and etc for that job, tomorrow I'm 
going to try to get at least the torque and thrust links in, maybe 
the upper control arm if I can find a mounting kit (I seem to have 
misplaced one, I'll have to do some digging around.

Currently in the middle of cleaning and repairing a 1942 Lord Elgin 
wristwatch - -found a lump of crap in the upper balance pivot hole 
jewel, hopefilly it will be up and going in a few minutes.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Truly one of a kind

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I'm disappointed - no alligator skin treatment on the valve cover or anywhere 
under the hood?  I might have gone for it, but overlooking such a glaring 
detail probably means there's no blue or green lights under the car for that 
true 'other world' look while crusin' the strip at night.
 
Interesting contrast - Jesus and the disciples on the outside, skin of the 
beast on the inside...
 
-Max



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Sent: Sat 11/20/2010 6:13 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Truly one of a kind



http://search.ebay.com/300494804759

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Re: [MBZ] New struts

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Peter,
 
I'm still working on rebuilding the rear suspension on my '95 E300.  A few days 
ago I took out the spring links (aka lower control arms) and found that the 
outer bushing on both sides was completely floppy and worn out, even though 
they looked decent.  I ordered an aftermarket version of the special tool for 
those bushings, waiting for that to arrive.
 
I've been trying to get the inner bushings out, but no joy so far.  I have a 
piece of pipe the right diameter to fit the spring link end, and a socket to 
push on the bushing, but I haven't been able to get the right combination of 
stuff yet to get the bushings to move much.   Bent the cheapo Harbor Freight 
ball joint press, going to take that to a friend to have it straightened and 
plates welded on, so that I can try it on the front LBJ's.  
 
My next attack will be with a hydraulic press at the base auto hobby shop.  If 
that fails, I may have to take the spring links to my indie and let him do it.
 
I think that using a 7/16 bolt, fine thread, and the right combination of pipe, 
fender washers, and socket would pull the old bushing out and pull the new 
bushing in, but I don't have time to keep searching for that - I also have a 
big trip coming up and I'd like to take this car.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Peter Frederick
Sent: Sat 11/20/2010 4:31 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] New struts



Finally got my brother's friend's Mustang out of the garage (complete 
suspension rebuild) and got in there to replace the front struts on 
the 300D.

My oh my, the old ones were trash!  This isn't a bad job if you have 
a 7 mm allen key -- strange size, hard to find, but my cheapo driver 
set has one.  Car rides at least an inch higher in the front and all 
the road noise is GONE, along with various creaks, groans, and thumps.

Now I can tell just how bad there rear end is, so I'll round up bits 
tonight and start on that tomorrow -- hope to replace all the links 
at least, maybe the subframe mounts if everything goes well.  Hope to 
get on a friends lift sometime this week and replace the right side 
engine mount that I cannot get the bolt loose on while up on jack 
stands, and have a new tranny mount to go in at the same time since 
the old one is knocking.

I've got a long trip coming up next weeks, be nice to have a quite 
car for that, eh?

Best $250 I've spent in a long time.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Curt,
 
Glad you got it fixed, sorry to hear that my method would not work on your 
streets.  Thanks for having the courage to at least give it a shot!
 
Catching up on my email; regarding adjusting the pedal height, I sent an email 
for Rolf within the last several weeks that had the procedure attached for 
adjusting the MC, I'll see if I can find and forward...
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Curt Raymond
Sent: Sat 11/20/2010 1:57 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?



Hi Max,

I tried a shortened version of that method on Thursday and it was decidedly 
un-fun. It seems like everybody in the world knows what you're up to and has a 
million reasons to make you have to stop...
The brake method works, is fast and is easy.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:31:44 -0500
From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310"

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?
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Curt,

Try
this before anything else: self-bleed the clutch!   Put the car into
first gear, pointed in a safe direction to start driving (i.e. out into
the street, hopefully with no traffic or very light traffic).  Let out
clutch pedal, and don't touch it for the next five minutes.  Ensure MC
reservoir is full full full!

Glow, and start the car, leaving
the transmission in gear.  Drive around in first gear for five minutes
or so.  After a couple of minutes, gingerly test the clutch pedal for
firmness - if it goes to the floor, be prepared to pull it back to
upright position (it will not self-bleed if pedal depressed, must be in
upright position to open the port in the MC to allow fluid to freely
flow to/from the reservoir).

Check the MC reservoir when done to see if you need to top it up.

You
may need to start the car in neutral and let it warm up a bit before
trying this to make sure it will start in gear.  Reverse would bleed
just as well except not as easy to drive around in reverse for five
minutes.

I've successfully used this method on a 123 and a 201,
and I've never had to use the "official" method of hooking a hose
between front right brake caliper and clutch slave bleeder, opening
both bleeders, and then pump the brakes to circulate fluid through the
clutch circuit.

-Max


 
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Re: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Curt,
 
Try this before anything else: self-bleed the clutch!   Put the car into first 
gear, pointed in a safe direction to start driving (i.e. out into the street, 
hopefully with no traffic or very light traffic).  Let out clutch pedal, and 
don't touch it for the next five minutes.  Ensure MC reservoir is full full 
full!
 
Glow, and start the car, leaving the transmission in gear.  Drive around in 
first gear for five minutes or so.  After a couple of minutes, gingerly test 
the clutch pedal for firmness - if it goes to the floor, be prepared to pull it 
back to upright position (it will not self-bleed if pedal depressed, must be in 
upright position to open the port in the MC to allow fluid to freely flow 
to/from the reservoir).
 
Check the MC reservoir when done to see if you need to top it up.
 
You may need to start the car in neutral and let it warm up a bit before trying 
this to make sure it will start in gear.  Reverse would bleed just as well 
except not as easy to drive around in reverse for five minutes.
 
I've successfully used this method on a 123 and a 201, and I've never had to 
use the "official" method of hooking a hose between front right brake caliper 
and clutch slave bleeder, opening both bleeders, and then pump the brakes to 
circulate fluid through the clutch circuit.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Curt Raymond
Sent: Thu 11/18/2010 7:11 PM
To: Diesel List
Cc: Dwight Giles
Subject: [MBZ] Clutch bleed procedure?



Anybody happen to know the procedure to bleed the clutch on a '78 240D?
I messed around with mine today, the master cylinder was the issue. I figured 
that after I pulled the slave and realized the one in the car was better than 
the one from my parts car...

The plunger at the top of the master came out of the cylinder when I took it 
out, pretty good hint eh? I can also see where its been leaking.
I got the replacement (from my parts car, hurray for a parts car!) in and have 
gotten it to the point where it'll at least self return but before going any 
farther I wanted to check in.
It seems like it'd bleed just like brakes, have somebody pump the clutch a 
bunch, then hold it down and open the bleeder. Sound right?

That bleeder is a BASTARD to get at...

-Curt



 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Did you get the original title?  I've never heard of a trailer title -
probably not the same as a vehicle title?

Can you get an independent opinion from a shop like Corbin's here in
Charleston?  They see just about everything trailer related, probably
will tell you the truth as they have no dog in the fight.

-Max 

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Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer

OK the trailer guy sent me a copy of the trailer title, which says
"Capacity (if commercial) 7000lb" and says that the trailer is 100% a
7000lb trailer.  The mystery still remains of why it is stamped "Do not
exceed 5000lb Gross Weight" on the frame (which is not the hitch).  I
think my hypothesis is probably close, the manf got a chinee frame and
added bigger axles/tires and called it 7k.

--R

On 11/18/2010 11:59 AM, R A Bennell wrote:
> Is it possible that the "hitch" has been changed to a lower rated 
> model? 3500# axles are common so I would not be surprised to hear that

> they truly are such. The only way you are really going to know if the 
> frame is capable is to either use it and watch for trouble or get an 
> engineer to give you an opinion based on the size of the beams etc. I 
> would also suggest that most ratings are somewhat conservative so it 
> may well do what you need it to do. Just be careful and check what you

> can to ensure you don't cause yourself trouble.
>
> Take a look at boat trailers. Most of them appear pretty lightly built

> for the weight of the big fibreglass boats we see being hauled around.
> The one's I see along the road seem to suffer tire and bearing 
> trouble. I cannot recall seeing any with broken frames.
>
> Randy
>
> On 18/11/2010 9:47 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
>> On further inspection of the unit I see "Made in China" stamped on 
>> the hitch area nest to the 5000lb gross weight stamp, but almost
>> covered by the plate for the jack.  h.   Talking with the guy he 
>> was certain that the unit had 3500lb axles, and so were the guys who 
>> redid the bearings on it, checked it out, the tires, etc.   So here 
>> is my thinking.  The trailer frame was probably acquired by the manf 
>> (D&E Trailers, I think from Georgia) as a 5000lb chinee frame.  They 
>> put on their axles, rated for 7000lb (the trailer seller tells me 
>> they don't see 2500lb axles and are almost certain those axles/tires 
>> are 3500lb).  So the thing might indeed carry that much, but the 
>> frame might start to change shape a bit as it is not up to that load?
>>
>> The guy called me, he wants to make the deal right, so I don't think 
>> there is any issue with that aspect, it is just a pain to deal with.
>>
>> --R (should have caveated the emptor, or emptored the caveats, in a 
>> little more detail)
>>
>> On 11/18/2010 10:07 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>>> Now you know why it was traded in.
>>>
>>> When I talked to a guy at a trailer place here, he said they almost 
>>> never got used ones in to sell.  The few that were were usually 
>>> bent, or otherwise worn out.  People buy trailers and keep them 
>>> forever.
>>>
>>> I eventually got what I wanted, $800 private sale from a farmer that

>>> was cutting back and had two trailers.  Mine had been used to haul 
>>> one tractor cross-State, and otherwise been used to haul hay.  No 
>>> brakes, but looks like 7000#.  Homemade type of license tag, so no 
>>> official manufacturer to put a weight rating tag on it, but real 
>>> axles not mobile home throwaways.  So far I've been very happy with 
>>> it, and the neighbors all use it more than I do.
>>> (Keeps the bearings and tires happy, it's a great deal all around.) 
>>> Only problem is that the Dodge pickup won't quite fit on between the

>>> rails.
>>>
>>> -- Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cover metal Tube ?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Which car?  Engine is probably toast.

Well, maybe not, after reading procedure 18-0999a on page 6 it says that
the center tube (aka return flow pipe) provides finely filtered oil back
into the oil pan.  So if this hole was plugged, flow to the engine
bearings is NOT affected, but less oil filtering is going on.

I know a fellow who sells these engine oil analysis kits, the lab
results might help determine if any damage was done?  ;)

-Max

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l02tur...@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:14 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cover metal Tube ?

I posted this on the 15th but rec'd no replies - I'll try again:

The long metal tube attached to the Filter Canister Cover has a hole in
the bottom and a hole near the top.  The upper hole had what appeared to
be a piece of plastic-like paper partly in the hole (like the cellopane
on a pack of cigarettes but much stronger).  
I pulled it and believe all came out although I had to 
tug pretty hard.I tried to blow through the tube opening with my 
compressor and I got some oil seepage from the hole.   I'm assuming the 
piece of "stuff" (I think I'll retrieve it from the trash) was stuck to
the filter perhaps? and came loose then was sucked into the upper hole?

Don't know how long it's been like this --- 

What is the tube for?  What do the holes do?

Can the tube be removed from the cover?

Thanks -
LarryT
91 300D


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Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I think Loren's right - gross is the whole enchilada (trailer plus
load).  My wagon can pull 4500 lbs - I'll take that trailer off your
hands for $500.  Can I store it at your place?

-Max

 

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:51 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT Trailer

OK so today I found a used trailer in really good condition and bought
it for what I thought was a good price, from a big trailer place that
does a lot of business with racing teams, seemed legit.  Some guy had
just traded this one in on another one, it looked barely used. 16ft with
a 2ft drop end and removable ramps, and elec brakes, tires almost new,
they had serviced it.  I told the guy I wanted a 7000lb he says yep this
one has 2 3500lb axles, rated 7000lb.  So then I get home and it says
"Gross Weight 5000lb" stamped on the tongue (which the guy looked at and
told me, I did not have my spectacles so couldn't make it out).  I call
him up, he says the trailer is 2000lb and it can haul 5000lb, but he was
gonna check and call me back, which he did not do late this afternoon.  
Anyway, to me, gross weight is full-up weight of the trailer plus load,
not just the load.  Am I wrong?

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel stabilizer

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I'm a believer - use it for boat and other small engines to prevent fuel
problems, and it seems to work pretty well.  Sailboat was unused for
four years, fuel was treated with stabilizer.  I drained the fuel anyway
and flushed the fuel line to the motor, refilled with fresh gas/oil mix,
and she started right up.

Lawnmower always gets treated fuel now.  First year I didn't treat the
fuel, and left the tank partially full over the winter, and had lots of
fun cleaning the carburetor to get it running the next spring.  No more
problems now.

I suspect that a "fuel cleaner" would help if you have fuel related
problems after bringing a vehicle out of storage, but I wouldn't use it
until indicated.

-Max

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Herrman
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:52 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Fuel stabilizer

I'm seeking answers about products such as Sta-Bil which claim to
preserve your supply of gasoline and prevent it from deteriorating.

1. How long before gas deteriorates to the point of concern? I've heard
20 days and I've heard 30 days.

2. What exactly is it preventing? A bad smell, varnish?

3. How long will these products hold off the inevitable deterioration?  

4. What is the shelf life of an unopened container of this stuff?

5. Shelf life of a container that has been partially used?

6. I've heard mixing old gas with new makes it OK to  run in a car.
Correct?

7. Does this stuff work for diesel fuel?

8. Will adding a can of fuel system cleaner (like Chevron Pro-gard) )
undo any harm that came from using old gas?  this also apply to
lawnmowers?

Be interested in getting informed opinions.

Jerry
1982 240D


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Re: [MBZ] Front end squeeks. 87 300D

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I'm wondering if one of your new joints failed to get greased prior to
the boot installation?  Long shot...

-Max 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 4:36 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Front end squeeks. 87 300D

I just replaced most of the front end about a month ago, now that things
have settled I am getting horrible squeaking from the front left. When
turning or with vertical motion. This morning I loosened the sway bar
end bracket it seems better but didn't go away.  Suggestions? I am
hoping its not the BJ. Sound very rubber on metalish...

-Rolf

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Re: [MBZ] November 15th in Michigan

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Then "self-described" is the type of redneck who straps two deer to the
trunk of an E300...

-Max

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:05 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] November 15th in Michigan

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
> Last time I got a buck, it rode on the trunk of a '67 Plymouth VIP
(with Commando V8) to the meat processor, and then rode in the back seat
(in the form of steaks, burger, sausage) on the trip home.  If I'd had a
Mercedes, I guess I'd instantly become a redneck for doing the same
thing...


The guy who did it called himself a redneck when he posted the pics
yesterday.

I just searched his username, and found that he had a thread about those
same deer last week, he took them with a bow before gun season opened.

http://arboristsite.com/showthread.php?p=2568725#post2568725

That's a late W124, isn't it?
38mpg seems a little high for the 606NA.
4200lb seems a lot high for any W124.
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Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Alignment?

-Max 

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 8:27 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> I was not talking about they time they lasted, I was more talking 
> about tread life.  The tread seems to wear out very fast on trailer 
> tires, and last longer on car tires mounted on a trailer.

A couple of my friends have 1000lb A-Liner campers, and they report
abysmal tread life on the 13" tires. I was thinking the tires should
last forever with 500lb on them if you didn't underinflate them, but
maybe the tires just don't last like car tires.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] November 15th in Michigan

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I think that the law requires the deer to be secured to the vehicle on the 
exterior, with the proper registration tag attached to the deer, so that DNR 
officers can easily check to see if the deer is a legal kill or poached.

Last time I got a buck, it rode on the trunk of a '67 Plymouth VIP (with 
Commando V8) to the meat processor, and then rode in the back seat (in the form 
of steaks, burger, sausage) on the trip home.  If I'd had a Mercedes, I guess 
I'd instantly become a redneck for doing the same thing...

-Max

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Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:48 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] November 15th in Michigan

No kidding, they'd fit inside...

Late season out there, I was at deer camp last week. Of course I'm in Wisconsin 
and their season isn't until next week...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:18:46 -0500
From: Mitch Haley 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] November 15th  in Michigan
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Yesterday was opening day of firearms deer season.
What kind of redneck piles two deer on the back of a 300D?
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Re: [MBZ] November 15th in Michigan

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Yeah, he should have used a 300TD or a (better yet) a Unimog.

-Max 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 2:19 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] November 15th in Michigan

Yesterday was opening day of firearms deer season.
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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

El Paso version is $190, looks very nice, but I've ordered the S.T. tool
for ~$107.

-Max 

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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 5:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

Go to eBay and look at what el paso tool has. Baum sells them out of the
back door, and many still have the Baum logo.

I scored a (serpentine) fan pulley/clutch counterhold for $30. I know
the official one is much more expensive.

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On Nov 13, 2010, at 12:07, "Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310"  wrote:

> Also found this one, which looks a lot more like the factory tool AND
I found a comment/picture from Dave M. that this one seems to be nearly
identical to his factory tool:
> 
> http://www.toolsource.com/advanced_search_result.php?search=1&query=m0
> 085&x=0&y=0
> 
> Is Sir Tools made in China?  This tool is less than half the cost of
the factory tool.
> 
> -Max
> 
> ____
> 
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Dillon, Meade M CIV 
> SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
> Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 8:59 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?
> 
> 
> 
> 124 rear suspension experts;
> 
> Yesterday I took some time to look at the spring link bushing job.
I've got to do this on my '95 E300, and soon also on my '87 300TD, so
I'm thinking hard about investing in the "special tool".  Wish I could
find one made in china...  just kidding Mao and all the rest.
> 
> The service manual section 35-114 lists two special tools, one for the
201 chassis (201 589 03 43 00) and one for the 124 chassis (129 589 01
43). 
> 
> Searching on Samstag's website, I found this for $137:
> 
> http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm  (search on that page for
0721 00 03).
> 
> This is described as a Matador bushing extractor. "Matador bushing
extractor <http://www.samstagsales.com/images/mt0721-00-03x.jpg>  for MB
models W 201 and W 124. Setting and extracting of bushing of the rear
axle."
> 
> Attached are a couple of pictures.  What does the List think - will
this tool work?
> 
> -Max
> 
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Re: [MBZ] A380 Problems in detail

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

On the upside, I'll bet that the new TSA regulations will boost general
aviation and chartered travel.

-Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] A380 Problems in detail

How good are you at acting (as if you enjoy your junk being manhandled?)

-or-

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On Nov 15, 2010, at 23:04, Rich Thomas
 wrote:

> Get someone you really like to "touch your junk."
> 
> --R
> 
> On 11/15/10 10:56 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:
>> I'm seriously thinking of driving out west next time I vacation  
>> instead of flying, if my heap of a truck will take it...
>> I think I'd have more fun as well :)
>> 
>> Walt
>> On Nov 15, 2010 10:34 PM, "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310"
>>   wrote:
>>   
>>> I feel the same way - I manage my travel itineraries so that I end 
>>> up on
>>> 
>> anything but an airbus product.
>>   
>>> Given the nekked scanner pictures or free feel-up that current 
>>> airport
>>> 
>> security calls for, I now drive as much as possible.
>>   
>>> -Max
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rich Thomas
>>> Sent: Mon 11/15/2010 10:03 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] A380 Problems in detail
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That does it, I ain't flying on no Airbus 380. Those things are just

>>> an accident waiting to happen, or an accident that will happen, or 
>>> something. They have fundamental design flaws that can't be fixed 
>>> with a re-do.
>>> 
>>> --R (BSAAE, MSAAE)
>>> 
>>> On 11/15/10 7:05 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I thought I saw fuel markings on the wings.
>>>> 
>>>> Very close to a crash, I think -- great job keeping that thing in 
>>>> the air.
>>>> 
>>>> Also a VERY good argument for putting ALL the 
>>>> hydraulics/electronics stuff on the TRAILING edge of the wing (a la

>>>> Boeing 747) so that engine shrapnel doesn't do these sorts of 
>>>> things. Leading edge hydraulics crashed a DC 10 at Detroit (I 
>>>> think) when and engine separated and ripped out the lines to the
leading edge slat system.
>>>> Had it been in the rear, the aircraft would have stayed more or 
>>>> less level, rather then rolling into the ground. Naturally, the 
>>>> electronics wiring was right beside the hydraulics.
>>>> 
>>>> Also a good argument for FOUR hydraulic systems instead of two to 
>>>> save $$$.
>>>> 
>>>> Close call
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A380 Problems in detail

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I feel the same way - I manage my travel itineraries so that I end up on 
anything but an airbus product.
 
Given the nekked scanner pictures or free feel-up that current airport security 
calls for, I now drive as much as possible.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rich Thomas
Sent: Mon 11/15/2010 10:03 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] A380 Problems in detail



That does it, I ain't flying on no Airbus 380.  Those things are just an
accident waiting to happen, or an accident that will happen, or
something.  They have fundamental design flaws that can't be fixed with
a re-do.

--R (BSAAE, MSAAE)

On 11/15/10 7:05 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
> I thought I saw fuel markings on the wings.
>
> Very close to a crash, I think -- great job keeping that thing in the
> air.
>
> Also a VERY good argument for putting ALL the hydraulics/electronics
> stuff on the TRAILING edge of the wing (a la Boeing 747) so that
> engine shrapnel doesn't do these sorts of things.  Leading edge
> hydraulics crashed a DC 10 at Detroit (I think) when and engine
> separated and ripped out the lines to the leading edge slat system. 
> Had it been in the rear, the aircraft would have stayed more or less
> level, rather then rolling into the ground.  Naturally, the
> electronics wiring was right beside the hydraulics.
>
> Also a good argument for FOUR hydraulic systems instead of two to save
> $$$.
>
> Close call
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Glow plug upgrade

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Both my 123 and 124 wagons had separate reservoir and pump at back right of car 
for rear window washer.  I'll bet it's for headlight washers.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Mitch Haley
Sent: Mon 11/15/2010 3:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow plug upgrade



R A Bennell wrote:
> Would the second plug/pump be for headlight washers?

Or rear windshield if the same part was used on a wagon.

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Re: [MBZ] Idle and tach inoperative - '92 300d

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Probably something simple, like a blown fuse or bad electrical contact
for a relay.  ABS light on?  If ABS is also on, then OVP relay is a very
good bet.  A bad RPM sensor could do it.  Another possibility is
degrading wiring harness insulation for the engine management.

- Max

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 9:53 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Idle and tach inoperative - '92 300d

Daughter called to report that the idel is now very rough, and the atch
stoped working on the '92 300D 2.5t.
I figure that the two are running off the same sensor, and are perhaps
also fed by the OVP relay (which was replaced about a year ago).
Any troubleshooting tips?

--
Thanks -
OK Don
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1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] Sir Tools [was: Re: 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?]

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Craig,
 
Those S.T. tools look pretty disappointing.  I've bought a few of the Hazet 
tools, and I've been very happy with all of those purchases, even though I 
don't use them very much.  Let's hope that the extractor I just ordered will at 
least work as designed out of the box.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Craig
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 5:21 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Sir Tools [was: Re: 124 spring link - special bushing extractor 
tool?]



On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:31:04 -0700 Craig  wrote:

> > > Is Sir Tools made in China?  This tool is less than half the cost of
> > > the factory tool.
> >
> > Doesn't appear so:  http://www.sirtools.com/
>
> I forgot about that.
>
> The fit and finish of the tools I bought (the prechamber puller and
> delivery valve holder driver), however, leave something to be desired,
> not to mention that the deliver valve holder driver did not work as
> received.

The attached pictures show the Sir Tools tools I received. Their part
number M0019 is the splined delivery valve socket. The M0046 is a
double-ended tool that threads into a prechamber to be able to pull it
out after the locking ring has been removed with a M0007.

The first picture shows how far a 1/2" socket extension fits into the
socket drive hole on the M0019.

The second and third pictures show the splines on the M0019.

The fourth picture shows the treads on the M0046.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

OK, already ordered it.  I'll report on it's usefulness, and then you've got 
first dibs once I'm done with both cars.  Only condition is if you sell it, 
advertise it here first.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of OK Don
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 3:29 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?



I suspect that those tools are hardened - you'd need a precision grinder
instead of a lathe, or beable to harden mild steel after you turned them on
the lathe.
If you buy ST extractor, I'll buy it after you use it for 50% ---

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  wrote:

> Looks like my china-bating line in the original email has un-done my
> original intent - get input on the usefulness of this extractor/pressing in
> tool.
>
> So all the 124 owners and 201 owners on this list are too frugal to spring
> for the $100 for this S.T. extractor?  Perhaps I can re-sell once I'm done
> for 50% of my cost?
>
> I'm realizing that if I had access to a lathe, I could probably copy these
> designs and make most of my own tools for far less in material cost than
> these prices.  Labor cost is another issue - I figure my labor rate is $55
> per hour, so I'd have to make the tool in less than two hours or so.  I'll
> bet a proficient machinist would only need about 15 to 30 minutes.
>
> -Max--
>

OK Don
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1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Looks like my china-bating line in the original email has un-done my original 
intent - get input on the usefulness of this extractor/pressing in tool.
 
So all the 124 owners and 201 owners on this list are too frugal to spring for 
the $100 for this S.T. extractor?  Perhaps I can re-sell once I'm done for 50% 
of my cost?
 
I'm realizing that if I had access to a lathe, I could probably copy these 
designs and make most of my own tools for far less in material cost than these 
prices.  Labor cost is another issue - I figure my labor rate is $55 per hour, 
so I'd have to make the tool in less than two hours or so.  I'll bet a 
proficient machinist would only need about 15 to 30 minutes.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Craig
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 2:31 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?



On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 13:47:35 -0500 Allan Streib 
wrote:

> "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310"
>  writes:
>
> > http://www.toolsource.com/advanced_search_result.php?search=1&query=m0085&x=0&y=0
> > 
> > Is Sir Tools made in China?  This tool is less than half the cost of
> > the factory tool.
>
> Doesn't appear so:  http://www.sirtools.com/

I forgot about that.

The fit and finish of the tools I bought (the prechamber puller and
delivery valve holder driver), however, leave something to be desired,
not to mention that the deliver valve holder driver did not work as
received.

I don't recall having seen before the bottom part of their web page with
Oliver Sir's comment about their one simple rule. Perhaps I should call
him about it.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] FW: Opinions on this trailer

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I think it was 1200 or 1250 lbs per tire; boat weighs 1700, trailer probably 
weighs at least 500, so I was probably right at the edge or even beyond the 
limit.  
 
In my opinion, I was asking too much of those tires, that is why I bought new 
tires with substantially higher rating.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Peter T. Arnold
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 1:34 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: Opinions on this trailer



What they 'really looked like' has NO bearing. What was their rating at
45#.

If you have no data, you are stating an opinion.


--
Pete Arnold <(*¿*)>

31' Forest River, Cardinal Fiver

'08 RAM250 4x4, 6.7 Smoke Motor

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National Camping Travelers, A Masonic Family Camping Club


On 11/13/2010 10:22 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
wrote:
> Several years ago I got some truck tires for my boat trailer from Tire Rack 
> for $70 each; they have a pretty high load rating, 1900 lbs I think, and are 
> bias-ply tires.  I don't notice any improvement in how it tows, but I have a 
> lot more confidence that I won't blow a tire when evacuating for the next 
> hurricane.  They also have a recommended inflation pressure of 65 PSI; the 
> radial tires they replaced had a maximum pressure rating of 45 PSI and really 
> looked underinflated even at that pressure.
>
> -Max
>
>
> 
>
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Peter T. Arnold
> Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 9:57 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer
>
>
>
> I haven't bought a non radial tyre in about 30 years.  Yes, you have to
> buy the correct load rating.
> --
> Pete Arnold
>
> "You win some, You loose some and You wreck some!
>
> -Dale Earnhardt-
>
> On 11/13/2010 8:11 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
> wrote:
>> Well, when I was searching for tires for my boat trailer, I found that many 
>> small truck tires had the correct load rating and I think they were all 
>> bias-ply, and as I recall, in reading the Tire Rack material, radial tires 
>> were difficult to find in the correct load rating for a trailer.  If your 
>> trailer and load never exceeds 2000 lbs, radial tires (single axle with two 
>> wheels) would probably be fine.
>>
>> If you ignore the load rating of the tires and just put on what fits, I 
>> think you'll have a similar experience to Kaleb, and be changing tires 
>> frequently on the side of the road.
>>
>> -Max
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Craig
>> Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 9:03 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:14:58 -0500 "Peter T. Arnold"
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Why not radial tires?  I use them all the time?
>> Yes, indeed, why not radial tires?
>>
>>
>> Craig
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Sorry, I must have confused you with someone else pulling a trailer and blowing 
tires.  Was that Curt?
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 12:12 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer



That load rating of my tires on my trailer are just fine.  Anytime
I have had to change a trailer tire it was because it picked up a
nail or something and went flat.

On 11/13/2010 7:11 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 wrote:
> Well, when I was searching for tires for my boat trailer, I found that many 
> small truck tires had the correct load rating and I think they were all 
> bias-ply, and as I recall, in reading the Tire Rack material, radial tires 
> were difficult to find in the correct load rating for a trailer.  If your 
> trailer and load never exceeds 2000 lbs, radial tires (single axle with two 
> wheels) would probably be fine.
>
> If you ignore the load rating of the tires and just put on what fits, I think 
> you'll have a similar experience to Kaleb, and be changing tires frequently 
> on the side of the road.
>
> -Max
>
> _

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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Also found this one, which looks a lot more like the factory tool AND I found a 
comment/picture from Dave M. that this one seems to be nearly identical to his 
factory tool:
 
http://www.toolsource.com/advanced_search_result.php?search=1&query=m0085&x=0&y=0
 
Is Sir Tools made in China?  This tool is less than half the cost of the 
factory tool.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Dillon, Meade M CIV 
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 8:59 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?



124 rear suspension experts;

Yesterday I took some time to look at the spring link bushing job.  I've got to 
do this on my '95 E300, and soon also on my '87 300TD, so I'm thinking hard 
about investing in the "special tool".  Wish I could find one made in china...  
just kidding Mao and all the rest.

The service manual section 35-114 lists two special tools, one for the 201 
chassis (201 589 03 43 00) and one for the 124 chassis (129 589 01 43). 

Searching on Samstag's website, I found this for $137:

http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm  (search on that page for 0721 00 03).

This is described as a Matador bushing extractor. "Matador bushing extractor 
<http://www.samstagsales.com/images/mt0721-00-03x.jpg>  for MB models W 201 and 
W 124. Setting and extracting of bushing of the rear axle."

Attached are a couple of pictures.  What does the List think - will this tool 
work?

-Max


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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Fundamentally we are consumers looking for the best deal for the buck, not 
idiots.  I'd prefer that the federal government get further and further OUT of 
the liberty-crushing mama-state business, reduce our regulatory (i.e. EPA) and 
tax burdens to the point that American manufacturers are one more even footing 
with the Chinese, so that the price on the shelf makes it far easier for 
consumers to select "Made in the USA".  In other words, consumers didn't drive 
manufacturers out of business, government regulations and taxes did.
 
-Max



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products



Dieselhead wrote:
> I'd rather buy HF tools than pay made in USA prices for chinee junk. At
> least HF charges made in china proces for most of their stuff instead of
> made in USA prices for chinee junk.

The issue is *much* larger than price alone.  That is the issue we
need to grasp.
Now, do we wait for mama-federal-govt to slam our face in to the issue
of price alone is not god, or do we *see the light* now on our own and
do it?
If *we* do it, we can carry the pride of having done it rather than
having someone else do it.  We gain a self satisfaction that has not
been american for over 30 years.  These issues are priceless, but the
price god has clouded our vision.  Fundamentally, we are cheapskates,
we are freeloaders, we are masochistic, we are idiots.  Can we be
other than this? - yes.  Will we do it? - probably not.  The end will
happen before we begin to think of anything other than price.
mao

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[MBZ] FW: Opinions on this trailer

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Several years ago I got some truck tires for my boat trailer from Tire Rack for 
$70 each; they have a pretty high load rating, 1900 lbs I think, and are 
bias-ply tires.  I don't notice any improvement in how it tows, but I have a 
lot more confidence that I won't blow a tire when evacuating for the next 
hurricane.  They also have a recommended inflation pressure of 65 PSI; the 
radial tires they replaced had a maximum pressure rating of 45 PSI and really 
looked underinflated even at that pressure.  
 
-Max
 



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Peter T. Arnold
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 9:57 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer



I haven't bought a non radial tyre in about 30 years.  Yes, you have to
buy the correct load rating.
--
Pete Arnold

"You win some, You loose some and You wreck some!

-Dale Earnhardt-

On 11/13/2010 8:11 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
wrote:
> Well, when I was searching for tires for my boat trailer, I found that many 
> small truck tires had the correct load rating and I think they were all 
> bias-ply, and as I recall, in reading the Tire Rack material, radial tires 
> were difficult to find in the correct load rating for a trailer.  If your 
> trailer and load never exceeds 2000 lbs, radial tires (single axle with two 
> wheels) would probably be fine.
>
> If you ignore the load rating of the tires and just put on what fits, I think 
> you'll have a similar experience to Kaleb, and be changing tires frequently 
> on the side of the road.
>
> -Max
>
> 
>
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Craig
> Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 9:03 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer
>
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:14:58 -0500 "Peter T. Arnold"
> wrote:
>
>> Why not radial tires?  I use them all the time?
> Yes, indeed, why not radial tires?
>
>
> Craig
>
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[MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

124 rear suspension experts;

Yesterday I took some time to look at the spring link bushing job.  I've got to 
do this on my '95 E300, and soon also on my '87 300TD, so I'm thinking hard 
about investing in the "special tool".  Wish I could find one made in china...  
just kidding Mao and all the rest.

The service manual section 35-114 lists two special tools, one for the 201 
chassis (201 589 03 43 00) and one for the 124 chassis (129 589 01 43).  

Searching on Samstag's website, I found this for $137:

http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm  (search on that page for 0721 00 03).

This is described as a Matador bushing extractor. "Matador bushing extractor 
  for MB models W 201 and 
W 124. Setting and extracting of bushing of the rear axle."

Attached are a couple of pictures.  What does the List think - will this tool 
work?

-Max

 
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Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Well, when I was searching for tires for my boat trailer, I found that many 
small truck tires had the correct load rating and I think they were all 
bias-ply, and as I recall, in reading the Tire Rack material, radial tires were 
difficult to find in the correct load rating for a trailer.  If your trailer 
and load never exceeds 2000 lbs, radial tires (single axle with two wheels) 
would probably be fine.
 
If you ignore the load rating of the tires and just put on what fits, I think 
you'll have a similar experience to Kaleb, and be changing tires frequently on 
the side of the road.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Craig
Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 9:03 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer



On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:14:58 -0500 "Peter T. Arnold" 
wrote:

> Why not radial tires?  I use them all the time?

Yes, indeed, why not radial tires?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic clutch problem diagnoses

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Took a look at the situation today, found the reservoir nearly empty, no sign 
of leaking inside the car (i.e. from the master cylinder).  Slave cylinder 
looks dry, but it's buried and not easy to reach, under/behind a lot of intake 
and fuel injection plumbing.  Refilled the reservoir, will keep an eye on it.
 
Side note - spent about an hour at the hardware store yesterday purchasing the 
hardware to make a clutch bleeder attachment for my Motive Power Bleeder.  
Found all the parts for about $4, now I need to drill a nice neat hole and put 
it all together.
 
-Max



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SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 10:47 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Hydraulic clutch problem diagnoses



SWMBO's '96 Infiniti has manual transmission, hydraulic clutch.  About 200k 
miles on the car, and I've replaced both the clutch slave cylinder and the 
clutch master cylinder once already.  Slave was probably done about 4 or 5 
years ago, and the master was done about 2 years ago.

Now that the weather has gotten cool (40 degrees at night), the clutch is 
misbehaving.  The pedal will go almost to the floor before engaging, and often 
will stick in the down position and stop engaging the clutch (so the engine and 
transmission are stuck in whichever gear you started in, usually either reverse 
or first gear).  After the car warms up, behavior becomes normal. 

When it happened to me, I found that if I pumped the clutch pedal five or ten 
times but only using about 1/2 of the stroke (i.e. ending the down-stroke just 
before normal engagement point), then it would work normally once or twice, but 
then revert to 'no clutch', especially if I tried to hold the clutch pedal down 
for more than a second or two.

I think that the master cylinder is probably bad (again), which is 
disappointing because it's probably only got about 20k miles on it and I bought 
it from a dealer, AND it is a real pain in the butt to R&R.

Slave cylinder is older, and the replacement is NOT and OE part from the 
dealer, but whatever I could find at FLAPS as the original failed with no 
warning.

I'll check the MC to see if there's any sign of leakage using the taste test.

Could this be caused by using DOT 4 fluid, when the owner's manual says to use 
DOT 3?  I guess flushing/bleeding the system with the proper fluid might be a 
good first step.

-Max

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Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Cool trailer!  Looks like it means business.  There may be a metal tag 
somewhere near the tongue with the load rating for the trailer.  Worth finding 
that bit of info.  Short of that, maybe you can ID the maker and then find more 
info on the trailer from them.
 
Check the tires to make sure they are trailer tires, or at least truck tires.  
Should have a maximum pressure of something like 65 psi or higher.  Should be 
bias-ply, NOT radial tires.
 
I'll bet that if it has electric brakes, you'll need to overhaul those 
completely.  Get a 12v winch from HF, mount that at front of trailer, and you 
can drag home enough to make Kaleb jealous.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rich Thomas
Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 1:19 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer



I have been needing a trailer, see this one.  At a pawn shop, girl there
says it has a "box" for brakes, does not know if they work.  She thinks
it has 5000lb axles (is there anyway to check the load rating?) but some
of these things are 7000lb and 1lb.  I'm thinking $1500 max, if
that.  New ones are like $3500, so even if it needs some work...

http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/2054831834.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I'm wondering what the pedal/MC set-up is in a 201 car?  I'm pretty sure that 
the 5 speed in that car is the same (or at least the same case) as what was 
used in the 124 cars with manual transmission.  EPC knows all (but I've no time 
to research today).
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rolf
Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 7:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D



If I sounded rude, I am sorry. I very much appreciate your input. I am
just frustrated with the lack of any adjustment!

-Rolf

On 11/11/2010 7:31 PM, Rolf wrote:
> Without even looking I can answer it, no! There is no eccentric bolt
> like the W123. It makes no sense, I am seriously considering adapting
> one. Even if I can change the sweet spot by spacing the slave out I
> still have a silly high pedal
> -Rolf
>
> On 11/11/2010 9:36 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
> 53310 wrote:
>> Should be an adjustment at the master cylinder side, but I don't know
>> if it will make much difference in pedal height. Attached are the
>> instructions for a 123, I have no idea if they apply to a 124 but
>> perhaps they'll point you in the right direction.
>>
>> -Max
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rolf
>> Sent: Wed 11/10/2010 11:56 AM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
>>
>>
>>
>> Honestly, it was a bit disappointing. I am used to my gwagen clutch on
>> the 123 now, big heavy lots of torque. I was also dickering around with
>> the clutch pedal (sits really high seems that there is no adjustment,
>> also engages really high, think I am going to shim out the slave
>> cylinder to compensate) and the shifter REALLY takes some getting used
>> to. Because the sweet spot was so high I was paying more attention to
>> clutch slippage than anything else...
>>
>> To be fair my exhaust manifold has a leak the size of the grand canyon
>> in it and I was driving in 25mph zones. Also the ALDA has not been
>> touched yet and it def needs a smidgen of a turn. It was also 2am and
>> the third day in a row I worked on the car. I was very tired. The car
>> needs lots of other work as well. The rear end is all over the place.
>>
>> The good news is that when it was spooled and tached up it seemed that I
>> had A LOT more power/torque than before. This weekend I am hoping to
>> spend more time on it and get a better reading overall.
>>
>> -Rolf
>>
>> On 11/10/2010 10:47 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Rolf   wrote:
>>>>As
>>>> of now I have only driven it around the block a few times.
>>>> Charleston is a
>>>> hoof but might make for a nice spring break...
>>>>
>>> Yeah, what I want to know is how it drives!   Do the gear ratios seem
>>> appropriate to the power band?  How's the turbo lag without the torque
>>> converter to allow the engine to rev up a bit "ahead of the wheels"?
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

No worries, seems like a dorky design if there's no adjustment.  Even my wife's 
'96 Infiniti I30 has a pedal height adjustment, made a huge difference in feel 
when I finally got around to doing it.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rolf
Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 7:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D



If I sounded rude, I am sorry. I very much appreciate your input. I am
just frustrated with the lack of any adjustment!

-Rolf

On 11/11/2010 7:31 PM, Rolf wrote:
> Without even looking I can answer it, no! There is no eccentric bolt
> like the W123. It makes no sense, I am seriously considering adapting
> one. Even if I can change the sweet spot by spacing the slave out I
> still have a silly high pedal
> -Rolf
>
> On 11/11/2010 9:36 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
> 53310 wrote:
>> Should be an adjustment at the master cylinder side, but I don't know
>> if it will make much difference in pedal height. Attached are the
>> instructions for a 123, I have no idea if they apply to a 124 but
>> perhaps they'll point you in the right direction.
>>
>> -Max
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rolf
>> Sent: Wed 11/10/2010 11:56 AM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
>>
>>
>>
>> Honestly, it was a bit disappointing. I am used to my gwagen clutch on
>> the 123 now, big heavy lots of torque. I was also dickering around with
>> the clutch pedal (sits really high seems that there is no adjustment,
>> also engages really high, think I am going to shim out the slave
>> cylinder to compensate) and the shifter REALLY takes some getting used
>> to. Because the sweet spot was so high I was paying more attention to
>> clutch slippage than anything else...
>>
>> To be fair my exhaust manifold has a leak the size of the grand canyon
>> in it and I was driving in 25mph zones. Also the ALDA has not been
>> touched yet and it def needs a smidgen of a turn. It was also 2am and
>> the third day in a row I worked on the car. I was very tired. The car
>> needs lots of other work as well. The rear end is all over the place.
>>
>> The good news is that when it was spooled and tached up it seemed that I
>> had A LOT more power/torque than before. This weekend I am hoping to
>> spend more time on it and get a better reading overall.
>>
>> -Rolf
>>
>> On 11/10/2010 10:47 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Rolf   wrote:
>>>>As
>>>> of now I have only driven it around the block a few times.
>>>> Charleston is a
>>>> hoof but might make for a nice spring break...
>>>>
>>> Yeah, what I want to know is how it drives!   Do the gear ratios seem
>>> appropriate to the power band?  How's the turbo lag without the torque
>>> converter to allow the engine to rev up a bit "ahead of the wheels"?
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Should be an adjustment at the master cylinder side, but I don't know if it 
will make much difference in pedal height. Attached are the instructions for a 
123, I have no idea if they apply to a 124 but perhaps they'll point you in the 
right direction.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rolf
Sent: Wed 11/10/2010 11:56 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D



Honestly, it was a bit disappointing. I am used to my gwagen clutch on
the 123 now, big heavy lots of torque. I was also dickering around with
the clutch pedal (sits really high seems that there is no adjustment,
also engages really high, think I am going to shim out the slave
cylinder to compensate) and the shifter REALLY takes some getting used
to. Because the sweet spot was so high I was paying more attention to
clutch slippage than anything else...

To be fair my exhaust manifold has a leak the size of the grand canyon
in it and I was driving in 25mph zones. Also the ALDA has not been
touched yet and it def needs a smidgen of a turn. It was also 2am and
the third day in a row I worked on the car. I was very tired. The car
needs lots of other work as well. The rear end is all over the place.

The good news is that when it was spooled and tached up it seemed that I
had A LOT more power/torque than before. This weekend I am hoping to
spend more time on it and get a better reading overall.

-Rolf

On 11/10/2010 10:47 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Rolf  wrote:
>>   As
>> of now I have only driven it around the block a few times. Charleston is a
>> hoof but might make for a nice spring break...
>>
> Yeah, what I want to know is how it drives!   Do the gear ratios seem
> appropriate to the power band?  How's the turbo lag without the torque
> converter to allow the engine to rev up a bit "ahead of the wheels"?
>
> Alex
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic clutch problem diagnoses

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Also, I'm thinking that the MC and slave seals are expecting a certain type of 
fluid which has a specified viscosity, and I'm not sure that a lack of 
hygroscopic characteristics is a good thing (water will settle out to the 
lowest point and corrode the internals, no?)  Isn't DOT 5 meant for racing 
applications, where the fluid is expected to be changed frequently and so any 
water present will be flushed out before it has a chance to cause corrosion 
problems?
 
Nevertheless, thanks for your thoughts on the faulty component.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Dieselhead
Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 10:14 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic clutch problem diagnoses



Sounds like a leaky master to me.  A leaky slave often works ok.

DOT 4 in a DOT 3 system will have ONLY beneficial effects.  IF the
master proves to be bad, I's swith the system to DOT5 Silicone brake
fluid.  Highest BP and less hygroscopic.


>SWMBO's '96 Infiniti has manual transmission, hydraulic clutch.
>About 200k miles on the car, and I've replaced both the clutch slave
>cylinder and the clutch master cylinder once already.  Slave was
>probably done about 4 or 5 years ago, and the master was done about
>2 years ago.
>
>Now that the weather has gotten cool (40 degrees at night), the
>clutch is misbehaving.  The pedal will go almost to the floor before
>engaging, and often will stick in the down position and stop
>engaging the clutch (so the engine and transmission are stuck in
>whichever gear you started in, usually either reverse or first
>gear).  After the car warms up, behavior becomes normal.
>
>When it happened to me, I found that if I pumped the clutch pedal
>five or ten times but only using about 1/2 of the stroke (i.e.
>ending the down-stroke just before normal engagement point), then it
>would work normally once or twice, but then revert to 'no clutch',
>especially if I tried to hold the clutch pedal down for more than a
>second or two.
>
>I think that the master cylinder is probably bad (again), which is
>disappointing because it's probably only got about 20k miles on it
>and I bought it from a dealer, AND it is a real pain in the butt to
>R&R.
>
>Slave cylinder is older, and the replacement is NOT and OE part from
>the dealer, but whatever I could find at FLAPS as the original
>failed with no warning.
>
>I'll check the MC to see if there's any sign of leakage using the taste test.
>
>Could this be caused by using DOT 4 fluid, when the owner's manual
>says to use DOT 3?  I guess flushing/bleeding the system with the
>proper fluid might be a good first step.
>
>-Max
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic clutch problem diagnoses

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I think that DOT 4 is backward compatible to DOT 3, but isn't DOT 5 a 
completely different animal, and not backward compatible?
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Dieselhead
Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 10:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic clutch problem diagnoses



Sounds like a leaky master to me.  A leaky slave often works ok.

DOT 4 in a DOT 3 system will have ONLY beneficial effects.  IF the
master proves to be bad, I's swith the system to DOT5 Silicone brake
fluid.  Highest BP and less hygroscopic.


>SWMBO's '96 Infiniti has manual transmission, hydraulic clutch.
>About 200k miles on the car, and I've replaced both the clutch slave
>cylinder and the clutch master cylinder once already.  Slave was
>probably done about 4 or 5 years ago, and the master was done about
>2 years ago.
>
>Now that the weather has gotten cool (40 degrees at night), the
>clutch is misbehaving.  The pedal will go almost to the floor before
>engaging, and often will stick in the down position and stop
>engaging the clutch (so the engine and transmission are stuck in
>whichever gear you started in, usually either reverse or first
>gear).  After the car warms up, behavior becomes normal.
>
>When it happened to me, I found that if I pumped the clutch pedal
>five or ten times but only using about 1/2 of the stroke (i.e.
>ending the down-stroke just before normal engagement point), then it
>would work normally once or twice, but then revert to 'no clutch',
>especially if I tried to hold the clutch pedal down for more than a
>second or two.
>
>I think that the master cylinder is probably bad (again), which is
>disappointing because it's probably only got about 20k miles on it
>and I bought it from a dealer, AND it is a real pain in the butt to
>R&R.
>
>Slave cylinder is older, and the replacement is NOT and OE part from
>the dealer, but whatever I could find at FLAPS as the original
>failed with no warning.
>
>I'll check the MC to see if there's any sign of leakage using the taste test.
>
>Could this be caused by using DOT 4 fluid, when the owner's manual
>says to use DOT 3?  I guess flushing/bleeding the system with the
>proper fluid might be a good first step.
>
>-Max
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic clutch problem diagnoses

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Thanks Jim.  If no sign of leakage, I'm probably going to try a flush/bleed to 
make sure that wrong fluid is not the problem.  Last trip to pick-n-pull I 
scored a clutch MC reservoir cap for $2, which I plan to use with my 
pressurized brake bleeder to REALLY bleed the clutch circuit well.  I'll need 
to drill a hole in the center of the cap to attach the pressure line.  This car 
has a clutch line routing that seems designed to trap air, very difficult to 
bleed out all the air which is absolutely required for nice clutch action in 
this car.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Jim Cathey
Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 11:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic clutch problem diagnoses



> I think that the master cylinder is probably bad (again),

So do I.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic clutch problem diagnoses

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

LOL!  Actually I just touch whatever looks wet, and then touch that finger to 
my tongue; the taste of brake fluid is unmistakable - very bitter.
 
-Max



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Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 11:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hydraulic clutch problem diagnoses



On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310  wrote:
> I'll check the MC to see if there's any sign of leakage using the taste test.
>

Yuk!  How about the feel test?  Not many things are as slimy as brake fluid.

I have visions of you upside-down with your head under the dash trying
to lick the clutch pedal.

Alex

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[MBZ] Hydraulic clutch problem diagnoses

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

SWMBO's '96 Infiniti has manual transmission, hydraulic clutch.  About 200k 
miles on the car, and I've replaced both the clutch slave cylinder and the 
clutch master cylinder once already.  Slave was probably done about 4 or 5 
years ago, and the master was done about 2 years ago.
 
Now that the weather has gotten cool (40 degrees at night), the clutch is 
misbehaving.  The pedal will go almost to the floor before engaging, and often 
will stick in the down position and stop engaging the clutch (so the engine and 
transmission are stuck in whichever gear you started in, usually either reverse 
or first gear).  After the car warms up, behavior becomes normal.  
 
When it happened to me, I found that if I pumped the clutch pedal five or ten 
times but only using about 1/2 of the stroke (i.e. ending the down-stroke just 
before normal engagement point), then it would work normally once or twice, but 
then revert to 'no clutch', especially if I tried to hold the clutch pedal down 
for more than a second or two.
 
I think that the master cylinder is probably bad (again), which is 
disappointing because it's probably only got about 20k miles on it and I bought 
it from a dealer, AND it is a real pain in the butt to R&R.
 
Slave cylinder is older, and the replacement is NOT and OE part from the 
dealer, but whatever I could find at FLAPS as the original failed with no 
warning.
 
I'll check the MC to see if there's any sign of leakage using the taste test.
 
Could this be caused by using DOT 4 fluid, when the owner's manual says to use 
DOT 3?  I guess flushing/bleeding the system with the proper fluid might be a 
good first step.
 
-Max

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Re: [MBZ] Fixed my Cruise using Jim C's guide

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

David,
 
Here's a link from Philip to the soldering iron and 'stuff' that I bought, 
works great!
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Fmiser
Sent: Wed 3/24/2010 10:42 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixed my Cruise using Jim C's guide



> Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

> Thanks for your write-up and advice.  What is the best way to
> strip off the varnish?  I didn't notice any corrosion, but
> will keep your wire brush tip in mind.  I have an ancient
> home-made soldering iron, the tip is a little gross for this
> work, so I need to procure a better iron - can you recommend a
> model?

The best non-expensive unit I know is from MCM Electronics part
number 21-8125
http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/21-8125$6.19

They also carry my favorite solder.
http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/21-2280   1 lb $20.99

While your at it, you can get a decent little stand with a
tip-cleaning sponge.
http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/21-8165   $5.09

> One site I read cautioned that overheating components like the
> integrated circuits was a potential pitfall to a DIY
> approach.  I did a lot of soldering in college, so I'm pretty
> confident I know how much heat is enough to get a good joint.
> Do you think any of the components on this board are
> especially sensitive to heat?

No, they are pretty big, heavy components.  Sure, they can still
be cooked, but watch the solder flow and don't heat longer than
necessary and you will probably be just fine.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Cruise control 1989 300se problem

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Sounds to me like you need to implement the Jim Cathey plan: Test to isolate 
component at fault (my bet is on the CC circuit board), and then fix or replace.
 
I'll bet that if you re-solder all the circuit board connections, your troubles 
will be vanquished.
 

   http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of David White
Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 2:06 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Cruise control 1989 300se problem



A question, could a stripped trip odometer cause the cruise control to
intermittently fail?
Stripped as in pushing in the reset while moving and now the odometer
doesn't work and the cruise control works, some times for 10 minutes then
kicks out or 10 seconds and kicks out, hitting resume usually puts it back.
My guess is the control module but I dunno.
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Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Well, maybe if there is a Rusty-Q this fall or next spring, we can see your car 
there?
 
Rusty, any hope for a Rusty-Q soon?  (I hope I didn't already miss that...)
 
-Max



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Sent: Wed 11/10/2010 9:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D



There are a couple of threads out there that cover this swap pretty
well, I don't know that I can add much to it. Other than be prepared to
have lots of energy and redo everything atleast 2x. :D AND USE LOCTITE
ON EVERYTHING. As of now I have only driven it around the block a few
times. Charleston is a hoof but might make for a nice spring break...

-Rolf

On 11/10/2010 7:53 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
wrote:
> No need to go that far, driver her over to Charleston so Rich and I can
> enjoy your handiwork, and time your trip to hit I-95 mid-morning on a
> weekday.  There's more than a few long straight flat stretches...
>
> I sure hope you can share a full write-up - someday I'd love to do the
> same.
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rolf
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:37 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D
>
> Pretty much. And rebuild the rear end. And a new head heheheh.
>
> Can't wait to take it out to Road Atlanta and see what the top speed
> is...
>
> -Rolf
>
> On 11/09/2010 09:07 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>> Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
>>> Rolf,
>>>
>>> How did it go?  Is this swap into a diesel engine car?
>> Subject line says 87 300D.
>>
>> Now he just needs an intercooler, a variable turbo, and more fuel.
>>
>> Mitch.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] I wonder what this gem is...

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Please hold the paint until after the major rust remediation.  Look
along the bottom of the door, and at the bottom of the A-pillar, in the
first picture.

-Max

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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:41 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I wonder what this gem is...

European 300D, velour interior, missing grill bars, needs paint from
fenders back.



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Subject: [MBZ] I wonder what this gem is...


> http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/2050541693.html
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Re: [MBZ] vote today for a woman named Sarah

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

There you go again, mis-under-estimating her again!

-Max 

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To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] vote today for a woman named Sarah


 From what I have been hearing Ms Palin is on a roll and can see the
white house from Alaska.
Spose they could make a TV series out of it.
Here is the theme music and lyrics, you can all sing along
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DWAaWgcga0


Come and listen to a story about a woman named Sarah A poor politician,
barley kept her family fed, Then one day she was shooting off her mouth,
And up from the ground came a bumbling crowd.

Idiots that is, stupid people, Boston tea.

Well the first thing you know ol' Sarah's a president.
Kinfolk said Sarah move away from there
Said White House is the place you ought to be So they loaded up the RV
and moved to DC

Washington, that is.
Lobby groups, big business money.

The Washington Hillbillies!


R A Bennell wrote:
> And I expect he is rather disappointed that he has not been able to do

> so. Anyone think that the Republicans could or would have done any 
> better in the past couple of years? Aren't you diehard Republicans 
> secrety relieved that Ms Palin didn't make it into the head office?
> What if poor old John McC had suffered a heart attack and dropped 
> dead??
>
>
> Randy
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT DIY water well

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

When I had an irrigation well drilled, a two-man crew with portable
drilling rig did the job.  As the rig drove the well point down, it used
water under pressure to lubricate the point, and most of that water came
back up out of the whole, carrying material from the bottom of the well.
When that material included ancient sea shells, they would stop drilling
and test the well to see if it would produce water.  The rest of the
time the material was mostly clay and sand.

I would say that if you can force water down the pipe and then examine
what flows back out, watch for a change in material (i.e. from clay to
sand or gravel or shells) and when you see a change, stop and test to
see if you can produce water from the well.  The crew I hired had a
gasoline powered pump to apply suction to the well pipe to try to pull
water out.

My well went down to about 70 feet, but the 1 hp pump sucking on the top
of the pipe could not produce too much volume - about enough water to
run one sprinkler head.  Driller pulled the pipe back up to about 40
feet, and then we got enough water to run three maybe four sprinkler
heads, and called that good. 

Ten years ago that cost me about $500 for the drilling and about $300
for the pump and pipe and valves.

-Max

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Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 9:39 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT DIY water well

I am driving a well through my basement floor in the hopes of being able
to reach good water.

I have rookie questions because I'm a rookie.  If any of you have
knowledge or experience, tell me what to look for that will give a clue
that water is close.  My house is built into a red clay hill and the
first 17 feet have been through clay.

Thanks
Harry
86 300 SDL
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Re: [MBZ] Inspiration

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Once you finish, I'll swap you for my wagon (if your Wife will allow you
to drive a chick-magnet) so you can do that one properly, and I'll make
sure your tires are properly balanced out on I-95.

-Max

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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:52 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Inspiration

'Had IVIG treatment at hospital yesterday morning.  'Worked on car left
side and front "clip" yesterday afternoon.  'Coming along slowly.  'Sure
looks good all clean and shiny.

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Inspiration


> Wilton - you're way ahead of me.  Since I have the '95 'project'
> occupying one garage space, my wagon has been parked outside under an
> oak tree; the sap, leaves, acorns, etc take their toll, and I've only
> been able to wash/wax the car twice this year.  I insisted on taking
the
> time to wash/wax just before this trip, knowing that a dirty car on
such
> a long trip would drive me nuts not to mention embarrassment if I
> happened to meet up with a fellow MB enthusiast along the way.  Sadly
> the car may not get such attention for another six months or so.
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 1:43 PM
> To: mercedes list
> Subject: [MBZ] Inspiration
>
> Nice visit with Max and his family yesterday inspired/shamed me to
take
> better care of the paint on my arctic white, nearly-showroom 87 300D.
I
> was a bit embarrassed for them to see it in dire need of a proper
> cleaning and waxing.  Yes, I've been a back-slider.  'Been running it
> through carwash and wiping it down with towel afterward, but I haven't
> really cleaned and waxed it properly in the 6+ years I've had it, so,
> though the paint still has no nicks, gouges, scratches, dents, dings,
> rust, etc., it has been looking quite "flat" for too long.  I've spent
> about three hours so far today working on the rear section from rear
> doors aft; all of that area is now pristine and glistening - even the
> six years of exhaust film across the back has been removed (again,
this
> is a WHITE car), and that area is white again - not light grey.  I can
> get to much of it sitting on my walker; 'have to stand only to get to
> the higher horizontal surfaces and can touch or lean against the car
for
> more stability.
>
> BTW, 'discovered a neat trick to keep white cleaner/wax film off the
> black trim areas; painters blue masking tape on those areas works
> beautifully.  'Had the roll of tape in the trunk after painting a
small
> area on the left rear door of the black 350SDL coupla weeks ago.
>
> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

No need to go that far, driver her over to Charleston so Rich and I can
enjoy your handiwork, and time your trip to hit I-95 mid-morning on a
weekday.  There's more than a few long straight flat stretches...

I sure hope you can share a full write-up - someday I'd love to do the
same.

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rolf
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:37 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

Pretty much. And rebuild the rear end. And a new head heheheh.

Can't wait to take it out to Road Atlanta and see what the top speed
is...

-Rolf

On 11/09/2010 09:07 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
> Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
>> Rolf,
>>
>> How did it go?  Is this swap into a diesel engine car?
>
> Subject line says 87 300D.
>
> Now he just needs an intercooler, a variable turbo, and more fuel.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Max

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I've had my eye on that one; price is getting close to what I'd pay, but
I'd really like to find a '94 or '95 wagon as the recipient...

-Max 

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 8:13 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Hey Max

Drop your diesel drivetrain right in here
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2047266951.html

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[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

OK Don,

I'll be doing the same job shortly on my '95.  Looks like if you remove
the spring link (no spring compressor required, just jack stands and a
floor jack), then you'll have access to press out the old and press in
the new.

If you fabricate sleeves and pieces to work with the Harbor Freight ball
joint press, I'd be happy to rent them or purchase them from you.

-Max

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 8:40 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear "spring link" and "supporting link" R&R

But - do you need a spring compressor to do the job?
I'm thinking of trying to fabricate the press in/out tool as shown in
35-114 instead of removing the wheel carrier.

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Peter Frederick
wrote:

> Link must come off, as the wheel carrier has to come off.  I don't 
> remember if the bushing is in the link or in the carrier,  but it must

> be pressed in and out, it's not a slip fit.
>
> Another job I will get to know in greater detail soon, as the rear 
> suspension needs a complete overhaul on the 300D.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I've got far to many MB projects to spend time and money on, don't tempt
me with another!

-Max 

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:10 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

Yes, still available.

Rusty Cullens
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- Original Message -
From: "Alex Chamberlain" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
>> Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous;
>> Interesting pair of white 124s.
> 
> Do Max and Wilton both live in states that don't require a front
> license plate, or did they take them off for the photos? If the
> former, I believe the plain center section of the W124 front bumper is
> still available.  (Rusty?)  Would look nicer than those lonely
> mounting tabs hanging down there.
> 
> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz technical assistance 2006 Dodge Sprinter 2.7 litre diesel

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Really sounds like a failure to properly secure the oil filter cover.
Could he install old filter cover, torque to factory specification using
factory tool, and then start the engine to see if it leaks?

I'm wondering if the inner tube did fail, if the resulting flow of oil
would result in lack of lubrication to a critical part of the engine,
which then caused enough damage to leak oil so that it appeared that the
leak was at the oil filter cover?  Seems a reach.

-Max 

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:17 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz technical assistance 2006 Dodge
Sprinter 2.7 litre diesel

On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 08:09:28 -0800 (PST) LWB250  wrote:

> Here's a link to the full size photos:
> 
> http://gallery.me.com/dpenoff#100266


> He has not gotten to see the engine, as it has already been repaired,

That's unfortunate. Hard to tell what went on after someone has messed
with it, let alone repairing all the damage.


> but the claimant says that the oil filter cover failed and as a result

> the oil was forced out of the engine.
> 
> The pictures linked above show the original oil filter cover and 
> filter, along with a current part, which is obviously redesigned to 
> eliminate the "ringed" yellow part.  There is no indication of a 
> failure of the cover or O ring sealing it.

What if the cover were not tightened down? If the oil ring were not
sealing, a lot of oil could leak out quickly, leading to the type of
problem described. The breakage of the yellow part would be incidental
to the cause of failure, which would be incorrect servicing of the
engine.


> That being said, from my inspection it appears that even had this 
> center tube failed, there would be no loss of oil, it would simply 
> fail to be forced through the filter medium and go back into the 
> housing and return to the engine.

Agreed.


> If anyone has any experience with these engines and has any insight 
> into this filter assembly it would be welcome.

None, sorry.


> I am going to contact my parts buddy at the local dealership on Monday

> with the old and current part numbers to see if there has been any 
> service bulletins or other documentation that would indicate why the 
> redesign took place.

That is a good idea.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Wilton and I also commented on that; both pin striping colors match the
interior colors (maroon for Wilton, blue for me).  Mine is in pretty
shabby shape, and I'm tempted to try to remove it but would probably not
be too happy with the end result.

-Max 

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:25 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

Nice cars gents.  Interesting, I notice pin-striping on both cars.  A
neighbour brought her 420 SEL up here a few years ago, when she moved
from the US.  I had pin-striping too.  Was this a factory thing in the
US?  I don't think I've even seen a Mercedes in a Canadian showroom, new
or older models, with pin-stripes.

Ed
300E no pin stripes.

On 9 November 2010 08:10, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 < meade.m.dil...@navy.mil> wrote:

> I've had very good luck following a fast runner about 300 or 400 yards

> back, so they "absorb" the ticket but I can react to their sudden 
> braking and slow down without getting attention from the law.  Haven't

> had a ticket since about 1989.  NC and VA and WDC, on the other hand, 
> are usually heavily enforced and I watch the speed very closely in 
> those states.
>
> Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous; a beautiful blond urchin 
> in pajamas (picture 2) insisted on asking for a ride in my sexy wagon,

> and my Wife let her in!  Wilton was jealous - he needs to get a wagon 
> too I think.
>
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:32 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
>
> So you lucked out and SCHP missed a good chance to replenish their 
> coffers?
> ;<)))
>
> 'Glad to know you made it home safely.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310"
> 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
>
>
> > I'll get the photos and share soon - need to pry SWMBO's blackberry
> from
> > her hands for a few minutes to download those pix and probably
> thousands
> > of others that also need to be backed up.
> >
> > Much thanks to Wilton for the invite AND picking up the tab.  Was a
> very
> > nice break during the 540 mile trip, great to finally meet another 
> > "dieselitus maximitus" sufferer, we took our time for the rest of 
> > the trip and rolled into the home driveway at about 10 p.m.
> >
> > I did indulge in a little fast driving on '95 in South Carolina; a
> very
> > nice W140 and a R129 cruised by at about 90 mph, and I just couldn't

> > hold my wagon back.  We briefly exceed 100 in a very nice formation,
> all
> > the rice burners fell away, then after 30 minutes or so the R129 and

> > I had had enough and the S-class faded away in the distance.
> >
> > -Max
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
> > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:00 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
> >
> > Max likely will; they're in his camera.
> > BTW, thanks for your help in steering him to a tire shop; 'found bad

> > tire; 'installed spare after resisting sales pitches; 'driving
> smoothly
> > when they came through here.
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "andrew strasfogel" 
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
> >
> >
> >> Any chance you could post a link to these historic photos?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:45 PM, E M  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sounds great Wilton.  Wish there were a few more Benz guys, to 
> >>> chat
> > cars
> >>> with over lunch around here.  I stopped for coffee today, and 
> >>> parked beside a new black 550 CL.  What a great looking car it 
> >>> was, and the panel
> > and
> >>> trim
> >>> fit was something to behold.  If anyone does it better, I have yet
> to
> > see
> >>> it, and I've seen pretty much everything.  It was nice to enjoy 
> >>> t

Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I've had very good luck following a fast runner about 300 or 400 yards
back, so they "absorb" the ticket but I can react to their sudden
braking and slow down without getting attention from the law.  Haven't
had a ticket since about 1989.  NC and VA and WDC, on the other hand,
are usually heavily enforced and I watch the speed very closely in those
states.

Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous; a beautiful blond urchin in
pajamas (picture 2) insisted on asking for a ride in my sexy wagon, and
my Wife let her in!  Wilton was jealous - he needs to get a wagon too I
think.


-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

So you lucked out and SCHP missed a good chance to replenish their
coffers? 
;<)))

'Glad to know you made it home safely.

Wilton

----- Original Message -
From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


> I'll get the photos and share soon - need to pry SWMBO's blackberry
from
> her hands for a few minutes to download those pix and probably
thousands
> of others that also need to be backed up.
>
> Much thanks to Wilton for the invite AND picking up the tab.  Was a
very
> nice break during the 540 mile trip, great to finally meet another
> "dieselitus maximitus" sufferer, we took our time for the rest of the
> trip and rolled into the home driveway at about 10 p.m.
>
> I did indulge in a little fast driving on '95 in South Carolina; a
very
> nice W140 and a R129 cruised by at about 90 mph, and I just couldn't
> hold my wagon back.  We briefly exceed 100 in a very nice formation,
all
> the rice burners fell away, then after 30 minutes or so the R129 and I
> had had enough and the S-class faded away in the distance.
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:00 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
>
> Max likely will; they're in his camera.
> BTW, thanks for your help in steering him to a tire shop; 'found bad
> tire; 'installed spare after resisting sales pitches; 'driving
smoothly
> when they came through here.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "andrew strasfogel" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch
>
>
>> Any chance you could post a link to these historic photos?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:45 PM, E M  wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds great Wilton.  Wish there were a few more Benz guys, to chat
> cars
>>> with over lunch around here.  I stopped for coffee today, and parked
>>> beside
>>> a new black 550 CL.  What a great looking car it was, and the panel
> and
>>> trim
>>> fit was something to behold.  If anyone does it better, I have yet
to
> see
>>> it, and I've seen pretty much everything.  It was nice to enjoy the
> view,
>>> and dream a bit over coffee today. :-)
>>>
>>> Ed
>>> 300E
>>>
>>> On 5 November 2010 16:25, WILTON  wrote:
>>>
>>> > 'Just spent a very enjoyable and short coupla hours and lunch with
> Max
>>> > Dillon and his beautiful SWMBO and 4-year-old daughter at a
Cracker
>>> Barrel
>>> > Restaurant just off I-95 near Wilson, NC.  'Also admired his 87
> 300TD
>>> (332
>>> > kmi).  His SWMBO got 3 or 4 photos of us with our respective
nearly
>
>>> > twin
>>> > Arctic White TD and 300D.
>>> >
>>> > Wilton
>>> >
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Re: [MBZ] Inspiration

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Wilton - you're way ahead of me.  Since I have the '95 'project'
occupying one garage space, my wagon has been parked outside under an
oak tree; the sap, leaves, acorns, etc take their toll, and I've only
been able to wash/wax the car twice this year.  I insisted on taking the
time to wash/wax just before this trip, knowing that a dirty car on such
a long trip would drive me nuts not to mention embarrassment if I
happened to meet up with a fellow MB enthusiast along the way.  Sadly
the car may not get such attention for another six months or so.

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 1:43 PM
To: mercedes list
Subject: [MBZ] Inspiration

Nice visit with Max and his family yesterday inspired/shamed me to take
better care of the paint on my arctic white, nearly-showroom 87 300D.  I
was a bit embarrassed for them to see it in dire need of a proper
cleaning and waxing.  Yes, I've been a back-slider.  'Been running it
through carwash and wiping it down with towel afterward, but I haven't
really cleaned and waxed it properly in the 6+ years I've had it, so,
though the paint still has no nicks, gouges, scratches, dents, dings,
rust, etc., it has been looking quite "flat" for too long.  I've spent
about three hours so far today working on the rear section from rear
doors aft; all of that area is now pristine and glistening - even the
six years of exhaust film across the back has been removed (again, this
is a WHITE car), and that area is white again - not light grey.  I can
get to much of it sitting on my walker; 'have to stand only to get to
the higher horizontal surfaces and can touch or lean against the car for
more stability. 

BTW, 'discovered a neat trick to keep white cleaner/wax film off the
black trim areas; painters blue masking tape on those areas works
beautifully.  'Had the roll of tape in the trunk after painting a small
area on the left rear door of the black 350SDL coupla weeks ago.  

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OM617 - Identifying real crank position

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I'm with Peter on this one.  First chain replacement I ever did was on
almost the same engine (OM617.912) and I also managed to skip a tooth,
but checked my work, found the problem, and corrected it.  If you don't
want to pull the pre-chamber (I didn't either),  I think you'll have to
determine "skip" or "not skip" by experimentation.  Rotate the engine
through several complete revolutions by hand to make sure there's no
piston/valve interference, button up and drive the car and judge the
power output.  If not satisfactory, move chain one tooth on camshaft
gear, verify no interference between pistons/valves, then check the
power output for improvement.  Decide which position is better.

I'll bet that your harmonic balancer is fine and is reading true.

-Max

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 8:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM617 - Identifying real crank position

Yes, you can remove the bottom oil pan.  Messy, but should work.

You can also pull the #1 prechamber and use something like a coat hanger
wire to determine when the piston is at TDC.  Even just pulling the
injector or glow plug should let you know if you are close.  Stops
blowing and starts sucking in air at TDC on the compression stroke.

Or you can assume you have jumped a tooth, which is rather common --
I've done it twice.  I believe they are 13 degrees each, so it ads up
pretty well, and you would be within 2 degrees if you move the cam
sprocket.

It will run just fine, although low on power with the cam 15 degrees
late.  15 advance and the pistons hit the valves.

Peter



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Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Rolf,

How did it go?  Is this swap into a diesel engine car?

-Max 

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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 10:39 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

If all goes well and Rusty comes through on some parts I will be
swapping out my leaky auto for a 5spd manual. Hopefully I can do it in a
day I'll have 2 sets of helping hands in theory.

-Rolf

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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Headlamp wipers were removed; PO had installed Euro headlights, mixed
set of Bosch and Hella, and used wipers that didn't really fit right but
he kludged them in.  I struggled with keeping them properly aligned, and
when I installed two new headlights from Rusty, found the issue when I
tried to move the wiper motors.  The shafts at too long, requiring a
spacer on the shaft to move the motor back, which moves the motor out of
reach of the tab-stop that keeps the motor from rotating when the wipers
encounter resistance.  I have not had time to make a proper spacer and
figure out a good solution to keeping the motors from rotating.

I'm tempted to get the hood nozzle fittings for the windshield washer
from pick-n-pull, and mount those below the headlights so I only get the
fluid squirting action to clean the lights.  Might be easier than
motor/wiper/fluid set-up, and lighter too.

-Max

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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
> Here's a couple of pix from our rendezvous;


Interesting pair of white 124s.
Max, your headlamp wipers fell off.
Wilton needs to detail his wheels or quit calling the car 'showroom
condition'.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Tire Shop Recommendation in WDC Area

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I did, and could have suffered the same fate as you.  Turns out one of
the tires I rotated from rear to front had lived on the rear axle too
long, and the inside edge had worn down to the belts in one spot about
three inches long, and a separation had started.  Had a good spare, paid
shop to balance all four, and back on the road about 60 minutes later.
New tires are on the agenda...

-Max

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tire Shop Recommendation in WDC Area

Do get them checked.  I had a problem like that on  a road trip once
years ago and it turned out that the tread was separating. We blew a
tire at high speed. Stopped safely and all but it was a bit of
excitement I could live without repeating.

Randy


On 03/11/2010 8:05 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
wrote:
> Dieselvolk,
>
> I'm on a business trip in The Capital (aka The District, aka Taxation
Without Representation) and I need to have a couple of tires balanced on
my '87 300TD.  I decided to rotate the tires before the 540 mile drive,
and that little voice tried to tell me that I'd need to get the tires
balanced after the rotation, but I ignored it.  Sure enough, once my
velocity exceeds about 65 mph, I've got slight vibration and noise from
the front axle.  Would be nice to correct that before the 540 mile trip
back south.
>
> What says the gathered wisdom?  Find nearest
Walmart/SearsAuto/Pepboys?
>
> Very respectfully,
> /s/
> Max Dillon
> Washington DC (for another day or two)
> '87 300TD, 321k miles
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I'll get the photos and share soon - need to pry SWMBO's blackberry from
her hands for a few minutes to download those pix and probably thousands
of others that also need to be backed up.

Much thanks to Wilton for the invite AND picking up the tab.  Was a very
nice break during the 540 mile trip, great to finally meet another
"dieselitus maximitus" sufferer, we took our time for the rest of the
trip and rolled into the home driveway at about 10 p.m.

I did indulge in a little fast driving on '95 in South Carolina; a very
nice W140 and a R129 cruised by at about 90 mph, and I just couldn't
hold my wagon back.  We briefly exceed 100 in a very nice formation, all
the rice burners fell away, then after 30 minutes or so the R129 and I
had had enough and the S-class faded away in the distance.  

-Max

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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:00 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch

Max likely will; they're in his camera.
BTW, thanks for your help in steering him to a tire shop; 'found bad
tire; 'installed spare after resisting sales pitches; 'driving smoothly
when they came through here.

Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Enjoyable lunch


> Any chance you could post a link to these historic photos?
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:45 PM, E M  wrote:
>
>> Sounds great Wilton.  Wish there were a few more Benz guys, to chat
cars
>> with over lunch around here.  I stopped for coffee today, and parked 
>> beside
>> a new black 550 CL.  What a great looking car it was, and the panel
and
>> trim
>> fit was something to behold.  If anyone does it better, I have yet to
see
>> it, and I've seen pretty much everything.  It was nice to enjoy the
view,
>> and dream a bit over coffee today. :-)
>>
>> Ed
>> 300E
>>
>> On 5 November 2010 16:25, WILTON  wrote:
>>
>> > 'Just spent a very enjoyable and short coupla hours and lunch with
Max
>> > Dillon and his beautiful SWMBO and 4-year-old daughter at a Cracker
>> Barrel
>> > Restaurant just off I-95 near Wilson, NC.  'Also admired his 87
300TD
>> (332
>> > kmi).  His SWMBO got 3 or 4 photos of us with our respective nearly

>> > twin
>> > Arctic White TD and 300D.
>> >
>> > Wilton
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] Tire Shop Recommendation in WDC Area

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Wilton,
 
Sounds like a great idea, probably tomorrow, probably ~ 1 pmish, but wait for 
me to call or email before you put it firmly on your colander.  Send your phone 
number to my email - this one or meadedillon-at-bellsouth dot net, and we'll 
try to make it happen.
 
Take care 
Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of WILTON
Sent: Wed 11/3/2010 10:34 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tire Shop Recommendation in WDC Area



'Don't know 'bout getting tires balanced in DC, but if you're coming back
down I-95 and in the Selma, NC, or Wilson, NC, area at about an appropriate
lunch time, maybe we could meet for lunch at Cracker Barrel at one of those
places.
Do you know an ETA at one of these areas yet?

Wilton

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From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310"

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:05 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Tire Shop Recommendation in WDC Area


> Dieselvolk,
>
> I'm on a business trip in The Capital (aka The District, aka Taxation
> Without Representation) and I need to have a couple of tires balanced on
> my '87 300TD.  I decided to rotate the tires before the 540 mile drive,
> and that little voice tried to tell me that I'd need to get the tires
> balanced after the rotation, but I ignored it.  Sure enough, once my
> velocity exceeds about 65 mph, I've got slight vibration and noise from
> the front axle.  Would be nice to correct that before the 540 mile trip
> back south.
>
> What says the gathered wisdom?  Find nearest Walmart/SearsAuto/Pepboys?
>
> Very respectfully,
> /s/
> Max Dillon
> Washington DC (for another day or two)
> '87 300TD, 321k miles
>
>
>
>
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[MBZ] Tire Shop Recommendation in WDC Area

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Dieselvolk,
 
I'm on a business trip in The Capital (aka The District, aka Taxation Without 
Representation) and I need to have a couple of tires balanced on my '87 300TD.  
I decided to rotate the tires before the 540 mile drive, and that little voice 
tried to tell me that I'd need to get the tires balanced after the rotation, 
but I ignored it.  Sure enough, once my velocity exceeds about 65 mph, I've got 
slight vibration and noise from the front axle.  Would be nice to correct that 
before the 540 mile trip back south.
 
What says the gathered wisdom?  Find nearest Walmart/SearsAuto/Pepboys?
 
Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
Washington DC (for another day or two)
'87 300TD, 321k miles
 
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] Bird strike - was Great Craigslist ad

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I'd call that a 'soft kill' of your SDL for the evening.  What speed?

-Max 

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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bird strike - was Great Craigslist ad

It was a dark and rainy night Cold too!

Worst one I got was a stupid pheasant that decided to fly in front of my
SDL on a dark and rainy cold night.  Broke the headlight, took out the
bulb, the light wiper, then rolled up the hood into the windshield
wipers, where it bent the right wiper and broke the wiper transmission.

Not as bad as hitting bambi, but close to it.


>My mother showed up with a partridge stuck in the lower part of her 
>Honda Civic back in about 1990.. She saw it fly in front of the car and

>did not see it again so assumed she hit it. She was right. It was 
>literally extruded through the grill. We had quite a time getting it 
>out. Used vice grips and needle nose pliers and pulled it out in 
>pieces.
>
>Randy
>
>On 29/10/2010 10:49 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 
>53310 wrote:
>>I hit a young bald eagle while driving my brother's '72 Ford truck, 
>>going about 40 mph.  He flew up out of the ditch right into the grill.

>>I let off the gas but hit him before I could brake, so I was watching 
>>in the mirrors to see where he went but there was no sign of him - he 
>>was stuck to the grill!  I pulled over and found a very angry eagle 
>>with his head stuck into the plastic of the grill.  Pried the grill 
>>open a little bit with a snow brush handle, he got loose, flew up into

>>a nearby tree, and commenced to cursing me out.  I was so glad that he

>>was not dead that I accepted that cursing with a laugh.
>>
>>-Max
>>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Bird strike - was Great Craigslist ad

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Sounds like the breast meat was not edible.  I used to hunt partridge
all the time - they are not made of the same stuff as eagles!  A quick
field cleaning method, if the bird isn't too shot up: lay it on its
back, stand on wings close to body, pull on feet.  Head, feet, entrails,
and most of the feathers pull right off the breast meat, and then you
just cut or break off the wings, rinse off the meat, and cook or freeze.

-Max

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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bird strike - was Great Craigslist ad

My mother showed up with a partridge stuck in the lower part of her
Honda Civic back in about 1990.. She saw it fly in front of the car and
did not see it again so assumed she hit it. She was right. It was
literally extruded through the grill. We had quite a time getting it
out. Used vice grips and needle nose pliers and pulled it out in pieces.

Randy

On 29/10/2010 10:49 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
wrote:
> I hit a young bald eagle while driving my brother's '72 Ford truck, 
> going about 40 mph.  He flew up out of the ditch right into the grill.

> I let off the gas but hit him before I could brake, so I was watching 
> in the mirrors to see where he went but there was no sign of him - he 
> was stuck to the grill!  I pulled over and found a very angry eagle 
> with his head stuck into the plastic of the grill.  Pried the grill 
> open a little bit with a snow brush handle, he got loose, flew up into

> a nearby tree, and commenced to cursing me out.  I was so glad that he

> was not dead that I accepted that cursing with a laugh.
>
> -Max
>


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[MBZ] Bird strike - was Great Craigslist ad

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I hit a young bald eagle while driving my brother's '72 Ford truck,
going about 40 mph.  He flew up out of the ditch right into the grill. I
let off the gas but hit him before I could brake, so I was watching in
the mirrors to see where he went but there was no sign of him - he was
stuck to the grill!  I pulled over and found a very angry eagle with his
head stuck into the plastic of the grill.  Pried the grill open a little
bit with a snow brush handle, he got loose, flew up into a nearby tree,
and commenced to cursing me out.  I was so glad that he was not dead
that I accepted that cursing with a laugh. 

-Max

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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Great Craigslist ad

Or a bird. I have had 2 or 3 birds hit the windshield of my truck this
past summer. Actually, one hit the radio antenna and then the windshield
and then went over the roof. Not sure if it survived but there were a
few feathers floating so not a good sign for the bird.

Randy

On 29/10/2010 5:22 AM, Gerry Archer wrote:
>
> Early designs for driving with the "wind in your face" were the 1920s 
> model cars which had windshields that pivoted at the top and could be 
> swung out from the bottom and locked at different angles.  The main 
> problem was insects.  A bumblebee hitting you in the eye could do real

> damage and a swarm of honey bees could wreck a families Sunday trip to

> a picnic area.
> The triangular windows were a great improvement which worked quite
well.
> Gerry
>
> From: "WILTON" 
>> Front windows in cars had deflectors, little triangular windows, at 
>> the front corners that could be turned with the trailing edges 
>> outward to deflect turbulence away from the window; 'could also be 
>> turned more than > ninety degrees outward and toward the front to act

>> as scoops to direct air directly onto the driver and/or passenger for

>> quicker cooling, but they were used most of the time in "deflector" 
>> position for more comfortable, normal cruising. Wilton
>
>>> Curt Raymond wrote:
 http://jalopnik.com/5674537/this-craigslist-ad-is-actually-commenta
 ry-on-modern-existence

>>> The thing about that ad that really strikes a chord with me is the 
>>> reference to driving with the wind in your face.  It seems to me 
>>> that on any car newer than about 1990, you can't roll down the 
>>> windows at speed and get just a comfortable breeze.  On one of our 
>>> daily drivers, a 2002 Camry, opening the windows at anything over 15

>>> or 20 mph creates both turbulence sufficient to throw papers around 
>>> the inside of the car, and a resonance inside the cabin that I find 
>>> physically painful.  Someone here who knows about the fluid dynamics

>>> of surfaces (laminar flow?) can probably speak with more authority, 
>>> but I think I've read that a car can be designed so that the air 
>>> passes over its surface smoothly with the windows closed or with the

>>> windows open, but not both, and the manufacturers now choose the 
>>> former, figuring that all new cars come standard with A/C and you'll

>>> always be using that, never opning a window when actually in motion.
>>> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Great Craigslist ad

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Well, take a look at the original ad, which has more pictures.  Perhaps
this was a special order option.  My father used to own a Pontoon which
had the same large canvass sunroof.  I'll try to attach a picture from
the original ad.

http://victoria.en.craigslist.ca/cto/2027409438.html

-Max


 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Great Craigslist ad

Nope!  250S had the steel sunroof.   I drove a 67 250S and a 68 250 
SE. I believe all sunroofs after 1963 or there abouts were steel.  I am
pretty sure 61 VW had the canvas type.  I don't remember seeing an MB
with a sunroof in 61 or 62.  I think any sunroof would have been steel
in the 111/112 chassis (starting in 1959) and in the 600. 
There were a few second generation 110 (after 1965) that had steel
sunroofs in NA.  (I can't say about europe)

I believe what you are seeing is a smoke color plastic sunroof
deflector.



>The car in the ad appears to have the huge Webasto canvas sunroof; I 
>used to own a '63 Beetle with similar huge sunroof, and I could stand 
>through the sunroof and drive that car.  Left foot on gas peddle, right

>foot in passenger foot well, left hand on steering wheel, and wave to 
>the adoring crowds as I motored by...
>
>-Max
>
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>Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:01 PM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Great Craigslist ad
>
>On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Curt Raymond 
>wrote:
>>  
>> http://jalopnik.com/5674537/this-craigslist-ad-is-actually-commentary
>> -
>>  on-modern-existence
>>
>
>The thing about that ad that really strikes a chord with me is the 
>reference to driving with the wind in your face.  It seems to me that 
>on any car newer than about 1990, you can't roll down the windows at 
>speed and get just a comfortable breeze.  On one of our daily drivers, 
>a 2002 Camry, opening the windows at anything over 15 or 20 mph creates

>both turbulence sufficient to throw papers around the inside of the 
>car, and a resonance inside the cabin that I find physically painful.  
>Someone here who knows about the fluid dynamics of surfaces (laminar 
>flow?) can probably speak with more authority, but I think I've read 
>that a car can be designed so that the air passes over its surface 
>smoothly with the windows closed or with the windows open, but not 
>both, and the manufacturers now choose the former, figuring that all 
>new cars come standard with A/C and you'll always be using that, never 
>opning a window when actually in motion.
>
>Alex
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