Re: [MBZ] OT: TDI brakes

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Nice Work!   Brake work is satisfying and I always feel safer doing it myself.  
 





> On Apr 18, 2024, at 1:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So my 2015 Jetta TDI has needed brakes for awhile now, they were pulsing 
> something terrible. I'd blamed it on Angie's riding the brakes. She does but 
> in this case I think it was actually my fault.
> 
> The pins on the front brakes had very little grease left. Pads looked fine 
> but I think the rotors were cupped, causing some of the pulsing. The pins 
> also had a coating of dried schmutz, presumably the remnants of the grease. I 
> soaked them in brake fluid and cleaned with a wire brush and very fine steel 
> wool. I found I had a spare in my parts bin so I swapped that in for the 
> worst one.
> 
> When I reinstalled I coated them with a thick layer of Sil-Glyde silicone pin 
> lube. I only discovered it a few years ago and clearly needed to put some on 
> the last time I did these brakes.
> 
> The rear pads were worn but the rotors were trashed, big chunks out of them. 
> I had to spend considerable time cleaning the caliper frame to get the new 
> pads in. I think that rust jacking had trapped the pads and stuck them to the 
> rotor which destroyed it.
> 
> Anyway when I had the car in for a new timing belt recently they quoted me 
> $1500 for this job, all in I paid around $250. Took me just under 5 hours all 
> told and it would have been quicker but after I did the fronts I cleaned up 
> and took it for a ride which is when I realized I needed to do the rears 
> too...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Dual pulley alternator belts

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Thanks for the help.  I think I found the correct belt. It’s a Continental 
brand # 15411
40.5” x 7/16” width.Ended up ordering through Walmart for about $12 each.  
Should arrive on Monday.  

Mike



> On Mar 26, 2024, at 11:29 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 19:42:50 -0500 Michael Esh via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> One of the belts was destroyed and I pulled the other one off to
>> measure it.  There are no numbers or manufacturers name on the belt. It
>> measures 40.25” when measuring out side of the belt from mark to mark.
>> Width of belt is 3/16”
> 
> 3/16" (4,8 mm) is too narrow.
> 
> My information on belts:
> 
>  |Belt Function  | Quantity |  Size   |
>  |---|--|-|
>  | Power Steering|1 | 13A1145 |
>  | Air Conditioning  |1 | 13A0925 |
>  | Alternator/Water Pump |2 | 11A1030 | *
>  |---|--|-|
> 
>   * My 1980 300SD came with two 11A1030 alternator belts. There are
> two sizes of belts available on a Euro parts website: 10A1025 and
> 10A1035 (I don't recall which website). Since the 10 mm belt
> available will ride lower in the pulley than the 11 mm belt the
> car came with, the shorter belt is the correct one.
> 
> From an earlier inquiry to Gates:
> 
> 
> Specifications for the Gates Automotive Aftermarket belts you inquired
> about:
> 
> 9395 -  Outside Circumference - 39 7/8" (1012mm), top width 1/2"
>(12.5/13mm)
> 
> 9405 - " "- 40 7/8" (1038mm),   "   "   1/2"
>(12.5/13mm)
> 
> 7405 - " "- 41 1/8" (1045mm),   "   "   3/8"
> (9.5/10mm)
> 
> 
> Have a look at
> 
> https://www.autohausaz.com/catalog?v=1193789=4=8900=1
> 
> It shows
> 
> Continental ContiTech V Belt/Drive Belt; Alternator | 10X1035 OEM
>2 per engine.
> 
> If you don't need it immediately, go to one of the Internet's Mercedes
> parts providers:AutohausAZ
>RMEuropean
>FCPEuropean
>or even RockAuto
> 
> (I'm sure others can list more on-line sources.)
> 
> 
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[MBZ] Dual pulley alternator belts

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Could anyone help or direct me to a source for the correct alternator belts for 
my 1982 240D. It has a donor engine that may have come from a 1984 300D and it  
has dual belts that run from crank pulley to alternator.

One of the belts was destroyed and I pulled the other one off to measure it.  
There are no numbers or manufacturers name on the belt. 
It measures 40.25” when measuring out side of the belt from mark to mark. Width 
of belt is 3/16”

The sales person at autozone measured it using a belt measuring tool fixture 
and told it me it was 390 x 9.  He looped it around the two ends of the tool 
and then stretched it out.  He did not have any belts that were close to the  
correct size.  

Is there a correct way measure so I can order the correct belt?  
Is there a site that lists their belts by size?
Or if anyone could point me to a part number I would like to order a couple of 
them.

Thanks for any help,

Mike


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[MBZ] Oil store world

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Shell Rotella T6 Full Synthetic 5W-40 Diesel Engine Oil (1-Gallon, Casoilstore.worldAnyone ever order from these guys?  Offer just came up in Facebook.   $48.31 for 3 gallons.  Free shipping.  You can use PayPal or a credit card. Too good to be true?Michael E. Esh___
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Re: [MBZ] Broken bolts

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Nice work!


> On Dec 31, 2023, at 4:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Had one of the bolts break on the GL oil cooler job. It’s for the egr tube 
> on the back of the turbo. One thing I suck at and hate doing is drilling out 
> holes and tapping them. In always afraid I’m going to screw it it up worse 
> than it was.
> 
> First attempt was stud remover but not enough of the bolt was sticking up. 
> Next was left hand drill bits and easy out. This did not work and ended up 
> breaking off not one but 2 left handed drill bits in the hole. Using regular 
> drill bits ran down the hole I was able to get the broken bits out. Just now 
> I drilled the hole completely and tapped it. Appears to be a success. The 
> shiny bolt is the tapped hole.  I always feel great when I actually get one 
> repaired successfully.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 220D

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Looks like a stick shift in the pics. 
Michael E. Esh


> On Nov 24, 2023, at 1:58 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think they’re better off sending that thing to the crusher, unfortunately.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2023, at 1:41 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  Look at this post on Facebook 
>> https://www.facebook.com/share/jywqTaJ1AiRRbwwZ/?mibextid=79PoIi
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

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3/4″ Fastpipe 230FT Master Kitrapidairproducts.comKaleb, have you looked at Rapid Air?  I asked my engineer son-in-law what he would use and he recommended this company.  They have various kits or you can use the site to build your own system.  Michael E. EshOn Nov 24, 2023, at 12:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  wrote:And, shark bite fittings tend to be expensive. I think I would use PEX fittings and the crimp rings. You will need the crimp tool as well as the cutter for removing rings when you mess up or decide to change something.I have not used them for air but I probably should install a line in my garage too.I have used PEX for changes to the water lines at my house and the cottage with no issues so far.RandyOn 24/11/2023 10:13 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote:Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't reliably hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've never tried it.On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  wrote:Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper.___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___
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Re: [MBZ] Be thankful y’all for all you have

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New gas stoves are no better than electric.  They need power to function.  I 
love the old ones and wish I still had one.  
Going way back, Gramma Dorothy used to cook everything in/on the wood stove 
while Grampa Otto fed the pop belly stove in the living room.  It was always so 
damn hot in there by the time dinner was served.  There was always 20 to 30 of 
us packed in the old farm house.   Loved it!

My daughter is hosting again this year. There will be 18 of us.  We celebrate 
on Friday. So much easier for everyone.  



Michael E. Esh


> On Nov 23, 2023, at 5:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No gas here, all electric.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 23, 2023, at 2:56 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I recommend a gas range, before they go extinct.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 2:37 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yea, tried that. At first the display didn’t come back on but turned one
>>> of the knobs and it did but still no heat. I guess after the festivals end
>>> I will see if it’s getting a full 220. The thing is only 9 years old. Top
>>> of the line Maytag double oven stove.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 23, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Did you try turning the breaker off and back on? It sounds sort of like
>>> your stove may only be getting 120V.
>>>> 
>>>> Randy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 2:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> When I was a kid we had the whole family together at my grandparents
>>> for a big thanksgiving and Christmas Eve dinner. After they died the entire
>>> family still got together alternatjng thanksgiving and Christmas.  Slowly
>>> it appears these were less and less and I have not been invited to one it
>>> probably 8-10 years. I am not sure if the rest of the family still has them
>>> or not, but I hear nothing about it. Now it’s just our immediate family.
>>> Sometimes we don’t do anything. Currently we have 7 people here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the process of cooking the electric range appears to have died. Both
>>> the stove top burners and the ovens no longer heat. Indicators light up but
>>> no heating. Since everything quit it seems like maybe the control board
>>> died.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I guess we will get what we get, not everything got cooked.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 23, 2023, at 1:55 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 12:10 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>> I care less and less about the various holidays as time goes on.
>>> While I enjoy time with family, all the “getting ready” that precedes the
>>> various events is tiring, if not a PITA, and just ruins it for me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Call me Scrooge, whatever, but I would be just fine with a casual
>>> gathering that doesn’t have to be over the top or something done to excess.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The days leading up are just too focused on making things right,
>>> getting everything surgically clean, pressure to get things done, etc.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But yes, I do value the time spent with friends and family. I just
>>> guess I could do without all the junk that can go with it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -D
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Our family gatherings have become smaller and smaller. Where we once
>>> had 20+ people at such meals, we are now down to basically, my younger son,
>>> his wife, their two little girls and my mother, plus of course my wife and
>>> I.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My father has been gone many years as have my wife's parents.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My elder son and his family are about 1200 miles east.  My sister and
>>> her family are here but have their own gatherings as their children are
>>> grown, and married and she has two granddaughters.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My wife's sister and her family don't come any more because her
>>> children 

Re: [MBZ] Parts

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Thanks everyone.  I’ll be checking junkyards in the morning.  
Yea, was pretty proud of him.  He has more patience and persistence than I will 
ever have.  

Michael E. Esh


> On Nov 20, 2023, at 5:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Junkyard $10
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Nov 20, 2023, at 4:09 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have to replace the drivers side mirror cover on my sons 2013 C300. A run 
>> in with deer smashed it.  Part number 21281067009792 (palladium silver.  My 
>> Mercedes dealer in Grand Rapids, Michigan gave a price of $284.00. Is there 
>> a better price out there?  
>> 
>> Update on the same car from electric steering lock and ignition replacement. 
>>   Original quote was around $2800 and they said it could take up to 7 months 
>> to get the parts.   Kudos to my son, he called mercedes  rep and after 3 
>> hours on hold and many conversations the rep said he would talk to the 
>> dealership.   They called my son back the next day and said they found the 
>> parts in another hub and could get the repair completed the following week.  
>>  The total repair cost ended up being $800.  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] Parts

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I have to replace the drivers side mirror cover on my sons 2013 C300. A run in 
with deer smashed it.  Part number 21281067009792 (palladium silver.  My 
Mercedes dealer in Grand Rapids, Michigan gave a price of $284.00. Is there a 
better price out there?  

Update on the same car from electric steering lock and ignition replacement.   
Original quote was around $2800 and they said it could take up to 7 months to 
get the parts.   Kudos to my son, he called mercedes  rep and after 3 hours on 
hold and many conversations the rep said he would talk to the dealership.   
They called my son back the next day and said they found the parts in another 
hub and could get the repair completed the following week.   The total repair 
cost ended up being $800.  
 
Thanks,
Mike


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[MBZ] Mercedes 2021 450 E wagon.

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I have a friend who is looking at a 2021 450 E wagon.  Does anyone have any 
thoughts about anything he should look out for?  
Thanks,
Mike



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Re: [MBZ] Help - WDDGF8AB2DR288607 2013 Mercedes C300

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Update. Repair estimate at Mercedes Dealer
$2850.00. Not sure pdf of estimate will send but the repair looks fairly 
complicated. I’m splitting the cost of repair with my son. 
Issue is locked steering wheel and no crank /start.  
Steering Lock Module - $505
Ignition Switch- $735
Program 2 keys - $270
Labor - $1224
Involves removing entire steering column. 
This really makes me appreciate my W123’s


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> On Sep 24, 2023, at 1:55 PM, Michael Esh  wrote:
> 
> Jumpstart did not help.  From watching some vids it appears to be an ELS 
> (electric steering lock) issue.  It seems to be in locked position and 
> according to vids it is a $2000 repair from Mercedes.  I’ll call dealership 
> in the morning.  
> 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2023, at 6:27 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The first thought is the battery. EIS likely locks the steering column with 
>> a solenoid, so no power, no unlock. The battery could have enough juice to 
>> run the radio but not the rest of the car. Once voltage falls below a 
>> certain point stuff either gets wonky or just doesn’t work.
>> 
>> Good luck, let us know how it goes.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>>> On Sep 23, 2023, at 6:23 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Fairly new to us 2013 Mercedes C300.  Son purchased a couple of months ago. 
>>>  About 150,000 miles on it. 
>>> Not sure why but it will not turn over.  He parked it at the mall and when 
>>> he came out it would not fire up.  Steering wheel is in lock position and 
>>> turned to the far right and does not unlock when key is turned.  Is the 
>>> steering lock supposed to release with key or when the car starts?  The key 
>>> turns all the way in the ignition but there is zero response, no clicks or 
>>> sounds.   The battery seems to be working as the radio works normally. 
>>> Any thoughts about what we might check or trouble shoot before we call the 
>>> tow truck?
>>> Thanks, Mike
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Help - WDDGF8AB2DR288607 2013 Mercedes C300

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Jumpstart did not help.  From watching some vids it appears to be an ELS 
(electric steering lock) issue.  It seems to be in locked position and 
according to vids it is a $2000 repair from Mercedes.  I’ll call dealership in 
the morning.  


Michael E. Esh


> On Sep 23, 2023, at 6:27 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The first thought is the battery. EIS likely locks the steering column with 
> a solenoid, so no power, no unlock. The battery could have enough juice to 
> run the radio but not the rest of the car. Once voltage falls below a certain 
> point stuff either gets wonky or just doesn’t work.
> 
> Good luck, let us know how it goes.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2023, at 6:23 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Fairly new to us 2013 Mercedes C300.  Son purchased a couple of months ago.  
>> About 150,000 miles on it. 
>> Not sure why but it will not turn over.  He parked it at the mall and when 
>> he came out it would not fire up.  Steering wheel is in lock position and 
>> turned to the far right and does not unlock when key is turned.  Is the 
>> steering lock supposed to release with key or when the car starts?  The key 
>> turns all the way in the ignition but there is zero response, no clicks or 
>> sounds.   The battery seems to be working as the radio works normally. 
>> Any thoughts about what we might check or trouble shoot before we call the 
>> tow truck?
>> Thanks, Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Help - WDDGF8AB2DR288607 2013 Mercedes C300

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I’m heading back to the vehicle today(30 miles) Can these car be jumped with 
another vehicle without damaging electronics? My newest vehicle before buying 
this one is my 85 300D. 
Thanks. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Sep 23, 2023, at 9:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes main battery is the first thing to check. These newer cars are EXTREMELY 
> sensitive to battery voltage. Next (or maybe first since it’s easy) thing is 
> check the key battery. 
> 
> --FT
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> 
>> On Sep 23, 2023, at 6:27 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The first thought is the battery. EIS likely locks the steering column with 
>> a solenoid, so no power, no unlock. The battery could have enough juice to 
>> run the radio but not the rest of the car. Once voltage falls below a 
>> certain point stuff either gets wonky or just doesn’t work.
>> 
>> Good luck, let us know how it goes.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>>> On Sep 23, 2023, at 6:23 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Fairly new to us 2013 Mercedes C300.  Son purchased a couple of months ago. 
>>>  About 150,000 miles on it. 
>>> Not sure why but it will not turn over.  He parked it at the mall and when 
>>> he came out it would not fire up.  Steering wheel is in lock position and 
>>> turned to the far right and does not unlock when key is turned.  Is the 
>>> steering lock supposed to release with key or when the car starts?  The key 
>>> turns all the way in the ignition but there is zero response, no clicks or 
>>> sounds.   The battery seems to be working as the radio works normally. 
>>> Any thoughts about what we might check or trouble shoot before we call the 
>>> tow truck?
>>> Thanks, Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 
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[MBZ] Help - WDDGF8AB2DR288607 2013 Mercedes C300

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Fairly new to us 2013 Mercedes C300.  Son purchased a couple of months ago.  
About 150,000 miles on it. 
Not sure why but it will not turn over.  He parked it at the mall and when he 
came out it would not fire up.  Steering wheel is in lock position and turned 
to the far right and does not unlock when key is turned.  Is the steering lock 
supposed to release with key or when the car starts?  The key turns all the way 
in the ignition but there is zero response, no clicks or sounds.   The battery 
seems to be working as the radio works normally. 
Any thoughts about what we might check or trouble shoot before we call the tow 
truck?
Thanks, Mike


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Re: [MBZ] Speedi-Bleed bleeders on sale

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Rick ,
Do you know if the Model 0100 European work for on W123 Brake systems?
Thanks,
Mike 
Michael E. Esh


> On Sep 4, 2023, at 3:32 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I use Motive bleeders.
> 
> No issues, but the hoses do age and need replaced occasionally.
> 
> https://www.motiveproducts.com/collections/brake-bleeder-kits
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: September 4, 2023 12:53 PM
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> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedi-Bleed bleeders on sale
> 
> I ditched my Speedi-Bleeder years ago when the cone washer failed on the 
> reservoir bottle and caused it to leak under pressure. I bought one of these 
> a couple of years ago and have been using it since:
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> Cheaper than a Speedi-Bleeder and is a lot easier to use. In fact, we just 
> flushed one of the W210s’ brake systems last week with it.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> On Sep 4, 2023, at 10:44 AM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I have had one of these for many years and was looking for replacement
> parts when I ran across their sale, shown in the attached picture.
> 
> They really do help with bleeding brakes -- and there is no risk of
> damaging a master cylinder seal.
> 
> The K400B is what is needed for Benz automobiles.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2011 Mercedes C300 4Matic Sport - Tire Sensor Replacement Question

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I’ll check on the size difference on our car.  Thanks for the info. 


Michael E. Esh


> On Jul 19, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Robert Koziak via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Mike,
>   The price including installation and New York tax is $845.43.  I have to 
> take it to an alignment shop which costs $99.00.  The front and rear are 
> different sizes...Front: 225/45R17 & Rear: 245/40R17.
> Annoying because they can't be rotated.
> Bob
>On Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 07:09:54 AM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Not sure about tire sensors  but I’m looking tires for our new to us 2013 
> C300. 
> I found these a at Discount Tire. Would mind sharing the price you are 
> getting from Walmart?
> Continental Control Contact Sport SRS+ 
> 225/45 R17 91 SL BSW 
> $764.28 plus an additional $88.00 lifelong warranty replacement. 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
>> On Jul 19, 2023, at 6:11 AM, Robert Koziak via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi all,
>>   After much research I decided to install 4 Continental Extreme Contact 
>> DWS 06 Plus tires on my daughter's 2011 Mercedes C300 Sport w/100K.  The 
>> tires are on order with my local Sam's Club and I will be getting them 
>> installed next week.  
>>   Do you think in addition to a wheel alignment I should consider 
>> replacing the "Tire Pressure Sensors" at the same time?  I read that they 
>> have batteries with a finite life.
>>   If so I would appreciate suggestions for a brand, part number, source 
>> etc.  I see there are different brands and the prices vary greatly.  
>> Thanks!
>> Bob K
>> 
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[MBZ] Car for Sonny boy.

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Thanks for everyone’s help and input. 
Ended up buying a Silver 2013 Mercedes C300 149,000 miles for $10,000. We split 
the cost and he will pay insurance going forward.  

He looked at and drove an 2013 Audi A4 before driving this one.  He was kinda 
set on getting an Audi and I was not.  After driving both of them he quickly 
changed his mind an we bought the Mercedes.  Car is in excellent shape and has 
been dealer serviced since new.  

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Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

We are splitting it 50/50.  This arrangement has worked well for in the past.  
Definitely gets their attention.  

Michael E. Esh


> On Jun 27, 2023, at 8:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The question is, whose money is being spent? If it's his, give him advice 
> but let him make his own choice. If it's yours, unless you feel like making 
> it a pure gift, you should have some say.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 19:45, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Agreed. The WRX is pure street racer material and unless extremely well 
>> cared for has probably been thrashed.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>>> On Jun 27, 2023, at 4:44 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Subaru he wants is something like the sporty WRX and I afraid most of 
>>> them have been driven and pretty abused. I like the idea of a w211 or 
>>> something similar.  
>>> 
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 27, 2023, at 6:45 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> A Subaru is a weenie mobile. Tell him to get a Mercedes. Maybe a w211 
>>>> like Dwight has. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a 
>>>>> lot of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good shop 
>>>>> that can/will work on Mercedes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you 
>>>>> steer away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't 
>>>>> tend to get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had 
>>>>> occasion to drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if slightly 
>>>>> boring ride. Realistically I should have bought the wagon that Dwight had 
>>>>> years ago, probably would have saved me money vs getting involved with 
>>>>> old "cheap" Mercedes...
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Curt
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle.  He is a 25 year old 
>>>>> student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 months or 
>>>>> so.  He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but it has been 
>>>>> sold due to some rust and high mileage.  Actually got $2000 for it!  
>>>>> He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar.  I am 
>>>>> discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in 
>>>>> the $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the 
>>>>> south that is relatively rust free.  (My daughter lives in Austin). 
>>>>> I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him 
>>>>> using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues.  
>>>>> Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or 
>>>>> even better does anyone have anything we might interested in?  We live in 
>>>>> Michigan. 
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 
>>>>> Michael E. Esh
>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Thanks Rick. We will do that. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Jun 27, 2023, at 7:06 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Run the vin and make sure it's post timing gear issues.
> 
> https://www.mercedesmedic.com/check-my-mercedes-benz-for-balance-shaft-issue-by-vin-m272273/
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
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> Cc: michael...@mac.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.
> 
> 
> Anything to worry about on this model?
> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/992085478461480>
> Log into Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/992085478461480>
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> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
> On Jun 27, 2023, at 2:46 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm with Curt.
> 
> I have some exposure to "Subies" as they are "the" car to drive in Flagstaff, 
> and understandably so with all the off-road activities here along with the 
> winter. Speaking with some of the locals, later, as in mid 2000s and newer, 
> are supposed to be quite robust. I believe the head gasket issues are in the 
> older models and limited to a specific engine. They appear to be quite 
> versatile as well as rugged.
> 
> -D
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Allan Streib via 
> Mercedes 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 1:44 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Allan Streib 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.
> 
> Only concern I’ve heard with Subarus is head gasket leaks.
> 
> I’d avoid Honda, people praise them but I’ve had bad luck with their 
> automatic transmissions.
> 
> For your budget you should be able to find a nice E or M class also.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 13:15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a
> lot of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good
> shop that can/will work on Mercedes.
> 
> Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you
> steer away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't
> tend to get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had
> occasion to drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if
> slightly boring ride. Realistically I should have bought the wagon that
> Dwight had years ago, probably would have saved me money vs getting
> involved with old "cheap" Mercedes...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle.  He is a 25 year
> old student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6
> months or so.  He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but
> it has been sold due to some rust and high mileage.  Actually got $2000
> for it!
> He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar.  I am
> discouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in
> the $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from the
> south that is relatively rust free.  (My daughter lives in Austin).
> I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him
> using it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues.
> Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or
> even better does anyone have anything we might interested in?  We live
> in Michigan.
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike
> 
> Michael E. Esh
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Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

The Subaru he wants is something like the sporty WRX and I afraid most of them 
have been driven and pretty abused. I like the idea of a w211 or something 
similar.  

Michael E. Esh


> On Jun 27, 2023, at 6:45 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A Subaru is a weenie mobile. Tell him to get a Mercedes. Maybe a w211 like 
> Dwight has. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 27, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that a lot 
>> of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a good shop that 
>> can/will work on Mercedes.
>> 
>> Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as you steer 
>> away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don't tend to get 
>> hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I had occasion to drive an 
>> early 2000's Forester that was a solid, if slightly boring ride. 
>> Realistically I should have bought the wagon that Dwight had years ago, 
>> probably would have saved me money vs getting involved with old "cheap" 
>> Mercedes...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle.  He is a 25 year old 
>> student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 months or 
>> so.  He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but it has been 
>> sold due to some rust and high mileage.  Actually got $2000 for it!  
>> He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar.  I am discouraging 
>> this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in the $8-10,000 
>> range and would like to get something that is from the south that is 
>> relatively rust free.  (My daughter lives in Austin). 
>> I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him using 
>> it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues.  
>> Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or even 
>> better does anyone have anything we might interested in?  We live in 
>> Michigan. 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Mike
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
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Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.

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Anything to worry about on this model?Log into Facebookfacebook.comMichael E. EshOn Jun 27, 2023, at 2:46 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes  wrote:I'm with Curt.I have some exposure to "Subies" as they are "the" car to drive in Flagstaff, and understandably so with all the off-road activities here along with the winter. Speaking with some of the locals, later, as in mid 2000s and newer, are supposed to be quite robust. I believe the head gasket issues are in the older models and limited to a specific engine. They appear to be quite versatile as well as rugged.-DFrom: Mercedes  on behalf of Allan Streib via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 1:44 PMTo: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Allan Streib Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.Only concern I’ve heard with Subarus is head gasket leaks.I’d avoid Honda, people praise them but I’ve had bad luck with their automatic transmissions.For your budget you should be able to find a nice E or M class also.On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 13:15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:Sadly a Subaru is probably a solid choice. The advantage being that alot of shops can/will work on them. It can be harder to find a goodshop that can/will work on Mercedes.Most all of the Subaru choices are solid vehicles and as long as yousteer away from the boy racer models (WRX springs to mind) they don'ttend to get hooned too bad. They also not terrible to drive. I hadoccasion to drive an early 2000's Forester that was a solid, ifslightly boring ride. Realistically I should have bought the wagon thatDwight had years ago, probably would have saved me money vs gettinginvolved with old "cheap" Mercedes...-CurtOn Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 01:10:12 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote:My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle.  He is a 25 yearold student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6months or so.  He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years butit has been sold due to some rust and high mileage.  Actually got $2000for it!He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar.  I amdiscouraging this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive inthe $8-10,000 range and would like to get something that is from thesouth that is relatively rust free.  (My daughter lives in Austin).I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want himusing it in the winter due to the salt and rust issues.Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Oreven better does anyone have anything we might interested in?  We livein Michigan.Thanks in advance,MikeMichael E. Esh___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___
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[MBZ] Looking for car for sonny boy.

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

My son, Andrew is beginning search for used vehicle.  He is a 25 year old 
student who will hopefully be starting Med school in the next 6 months or so.  
He has been driving our 1991 Civic for several years but it has been sold due 
to some rust and high mileage.  Actually got $2000 for it!   
He is pushing for a Subaru Impreza or something similar.  I am discouraging 
this and looking more toward a Mercedes all wheel drive in the $8-10,000 range 
and would like to get something that is from the south that is relatively rust 
free.  (My daughter lives in Austin). 
I have 2 300D’s and he is driving one of them now but I don’t want him using it 
in the winter due to the salt and rust issues.  
Any thoughts about what we should be looking for would be welcome. Or even 
better does anyone have anything we might interested in?  We live in Michigan. 
Thanks in advance,
Mike

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Re: [MBZ] OT - A True Land Yacht

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Yes. 


> On May 26, 2023, at 4:49 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 55 MPH may have worked in the densely populated east, however in the
> western states where distance is measured not in miles but hours from point
> to point, it was a total failure.
> Truck freight, where drivers are paid on miles driven and tons delivered,
> took a huge pay cut, over "hauling the freight" at 75 MPH..
> But, to those who do not agree... you are of course right..
> Yawnnn..
> 
> On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 1:36 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Actually, the 55 mph speed limit did work. The planet was saved.
>> 
>> I remember the change.  The "Are we there yet?" game got a _lot_ more
>> frustrating for the parental units...
>> 
>> -- Jim
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[MBZ] New radio for 300D

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I am replacing the aftermarket stereo in my 1985 300D. I seem to remember some 
posts about Continental being a good product.  Just looking for a radio with 
Bluetooth capability.  No CD or any extras.  
Does anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] OT Question #1

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In high school our tennis team bus was a stretch checker cab.  4 doors on 
either side.M and bench seats throughout. I remember my buddy and I installing 
an 8 track tape player in it and listening to Elton John and Bob Seeger. I’m 
not sure what year the cab was or even if it had seat belts. Maybe just lap 
belts.  I have fond memories.  Can you imagine having something like this in 
todays world?  I sure miss the simplicity of it all. 
Happy Days everyone! 

Michael E. Esh


> On Nov 25, 2022, at 2:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I lusted for a Checker cab when I was a high schooler. I had worked on a 
> couple that were around town and just loved the simplicity as well as the 
> massive amount of space in the rear cabin. Not to mention they were unique, 
> and I like unique cars.
> 
> If I was talking Mercedes, it would be the W210, hands down.
> 
> Domestic cars, maybe the Ford Focus. They’re pretty rugged and easily 
> repairable for the most part, although Allen may take exception to that.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:27 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I was reading an article on line this morning about Checker cabs. They were 
>> designed to be essentially industrial quality and easily repairable. Truck 
>> frame, industrial engine (at the outset) and all the panels bolted on for 
>> easy replacement.
>> 
>> My question is: What do you think is the most rugged and repairable vehicle 
>> built in the past roughly 20 years?
>> 
>> Randy
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[MBZ] 240d valve cover gaskets

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I have two Victor Reinz 240d valve cover gaskets free to anyone that wants pay 
shipping.  
Happy Holidays
Mike. 


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[MBZ] Anyone looking for a “settling torch”

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Michigan has its fair share of interesting folks. 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/634553075038734/


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[MBZ] W123 floats?

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I saw this while listening to some music last night.  First time I noticed he 
is enjoying his W123. 

Michael E. Esh

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[MBZ] Frosty morning in Michigan.

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Michael E. Esh

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Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

$3.99 for regular and $$5.49 for diesel in Whitehall, Michigan today.  

Michael E. Esh


> On Aug 3, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have traveled to the great northern estate once again. Lowest fillup of 
> the trip (regular gasoline) was $4.29, highest was $4.59. It's normal for the 
> north to have higher priced gas, the trucking cost is significant. Looks like 
> today it's down $0.10. Irritatingly I left the gas cans at camp when I came 
> into town to use the house internet. I mowed for a couple hours this morning 
> and the Super M is a thirsty beast.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 12:57:23 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> We're at roughly $4.55/g for 87UL and 5.59/g for diesel right now.
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2022, at 11:53, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>> This morning I paid $169.9/l  for regular. The previous fill was, I 
>> believe, $1.79.9/l.
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Re: [MBZ] An electric Mercedes-Benz drove 747 miles without recharging

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Are you taking pre-orders?  Put me on the list. 




> On Jun 25, 2022, at 3:33 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have another point of view on the future of EV's and available
> electricity.
> My view is to design and produce a desk top size Thorium reactor which
> would be scalable in size to power EV's including heavy haul trucks and
> construction equipment.
> A ball of Thorium, correctly managed, the size of a golf ball is capable of
> generating all the electrical energy you would use in your lifetime.  Thus,
> power a car, or truck, that not only never had to be "plugged in to
> recharge" but could be "plugged in" to power your house when not driving.
> No batteries, no exotic elements in short supply mined by child slave
> labor.. etc etc etc...
> Such a "laptop reactor" would instantly resolve all the shortcomings of
> wind, solar, and battery storage and disposal.
> I want to become the new Elon Musk worlds richest man.
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 11:27 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Aside from the pollution caused by making the batteries, I think the real
>> solution is a plug in hybrid with a small Diesel engine. I wonder if such a
>> thing exists anywhere in the world.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It will be interesting to see how the future works when some areas are
>> already struggling to meet today's electrical demand without rolling
>> blackouts.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, at 11:57 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
 Like it or not, the future is coming, and it's change ---
 
 
>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/an-electric-mercedes-benz-drove-747-miles-without-recharging-nearly-twice-the-range-of-tesla-s-model-s/ar-AAYRnCT
 
 --
 OK Don
 
 "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
 pause and reflect." Mark Twain
 
 “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
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 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] Steak Price

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Meijer’s,  our local big box store is selling their New York strip steak for 
$13.69 lb. 
Food prices are crazy high.  
I bought 1/2 a cow about 6 months ago for  $5.50 a pound packaged and 
delivered.  
I’ll bet it will be close to $8.50 a pound next time.  My supplier said his 
feed cost had doubled since the first of the year. 
This economy sucks!



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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices spiking

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Looks like Lansing is about 30 cents cheaper than around here.  I am located on 
the west side about 5 miles from Lake Michigan.  

Michael E. Esh


> On Apr 19, 2022, at 2:56 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2022-04-19 14:00, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote:
>> Whitehall, Michigan. $3.98 for no lead and $4.99 for diesel.
> 
> https://www.gasbuddy.com/home?search=48917=1
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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices spiking

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Whitehall, Michigan. $3.98 for no lead and $4.99 for diesel.   




> On Apr 18, 2022, at 11:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Filled up at Costco today premium $4.40. Down 30cents since last fillup 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 11:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I see on the news oil prices are spiking which is causing gas prices to 
>> spike. I guess oil dropped but I sure as hell never saw gas prices drop. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] plate readers

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

And…..have surveillance cameras reduced crime?  Or…have the criminals developed 
ways around them?   And…unenforceable laws that take away the freedoms of 
people who obey the law. (Well most of them. I travel over the speed limit most 
of time.)

Michael E. Esh


> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:16 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> People will say if you are not doing anything wrong you have nothing to 
> worry about.  While that is true, would those same people be OK with 
> installing cameras being installed in their house to make sure they are safe? 
>  We continue to let them invade our privacy or take away freedoms little by 
> little.  If you look back 20 or 30 years, it is amazing how far it has gone.
> 
>> On 3/21/2022 6:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> It's called a surveillance state and we are living in one. It's not 
>> political. I don't like it either.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: March 21, 2022 6:05 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>> Subject: [MBZ] plate readers
>> 
>> Watching the local news, I see TPD is talking about these new plate
>> readers they are installing around town that sends an alert to the cops
>> about various things.  Talked about placing them in the high crime areas
>> aka the ghetto.  The other day saw the sheriffs dept was installing some
>> too.  Without getting into a political discussion, I am not sure I
>> really like this idea at all.
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Re: [MBZ] More tires

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I bought Khumho tires for the 85 300D and loved them. No issues back and forth 
from Michigan to Texas.  They will out date before the miles wear them no out.  

Michael E. Esh


> On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Michelin, Vredestein etc.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Define non-trash tires please.
>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:12 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Alles.
>>> My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No casing
>>> failures just wore too quickly.
>>> YMMV
>>> Fred.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars!
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I
>>>> owned, and was very pleased with them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -D
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100
>>> miles
>>>> on them before I crashed into the tree
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --FT
>>>>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No
>>>> blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very
>>>> aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I drive,
>>>> I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or stops
>>>> suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>>>> Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM
>>>>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
>>>>>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>>>>>>> Subject: [MBZ] More tires
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for
>>> Michelins.
>>>>>>> Looking at Kumho and Nexen.  Anybody used either?
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Re: [MBZ] What are they smoking on BAT?

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Mmm, friends of yours?  Not that there’s anything wrong with that.  


> On Mar 17, 2022, at 2:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> I knew two guys who owned these cars back in the late 1980s. Both were 
> flaming homosexuals. Not that there's anything wrong with it.
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, at 1:48 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Probably. Don’s brother is into these cars heavily. I recall him 
>> talking about them in the past.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Mar 17, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is that our own Mr. Snook in the comments?
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
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 Mercedes  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> No words.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt will need all his snow machines

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My memory recalls running around barefoot with brothers, sisters and all sorts 
of cousins in gramma’s backyard and someone stepping in the excrement.  Of 
course it was quickly forgotten as someone was usually trying to catch or tag 
you.   

Michael E. Esh


> On Jan 29, 2022, at 9:37 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> The girls move out of the way of feet, and the fertilizer they expel is 
> quickly scratched back into he dirt.
> 
> Clay
>> On Jan 29, 2022, at 5:02 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
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>> Watch you step!
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt will need all his snow machines

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Watch you step!

Michael E. Esh


> On Jan 29, 2022, at 8:17 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I found chickens were a great solution.  I used a push mower on the tiny 
> patch of grass and found it exceedingly swift job done.  The chickens roamed 
> the yard and kept weeds and bugs in check in my fevered mind.  Had the push 
> mower out once a month at most.  Then, I went a season without hens.  I was 
> out there all spring and autumn and much of summer until the grass went to 
> sleep.  I got the first few sets of chicks the next spring and reduced lawn 
> care and weeding to a few hours a month.  Better than a herd of goats
> 
> 
> Clay
> 
> 
> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2022, at 10:15 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If you truly cared about the environment you’d use a manual push mower! 
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Re: [MBZ] What a Random Batch of Stuff

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Yea, the guy has been around a long time and it sounds like he is trying clean 
up his place.  In the past his parts have been overpriced in my opinion. 
Maybe I’ll take a trip over there in the spring.  Way to cold and snowy right 
now.  

Mike 


> On Jan 21, 2022, at 3:40 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2022-01-21 14:48, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> Could be a source for stuff?
> 
> Hudsonville. I could be there in 90 minutes, probably under a half hour for 
> Mike Esh.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Crazy USPS Stuff

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I ordered 6 gallons of Rotella T-6 full synthetic, 15w40 from Walmart last 
week for $22.28 / gallon with  free shipping. 

Received 1 gallon on Friday in one box, 4 gallons today in two boxes, I expect 
6th gallon tomorrow.  
 The nearest store is three miles from my house. 
I would have happily picked it up locally if they had offered to discount what 
it cost to ship.  
Mike. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Dec 19, 2021, at 9:56 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> Was just looking at “Informed Delivery” for the Flagstaff house. Saw a 
> package shipped on the 17th of this month from the Tampa area to the 
> Flagstaff house.
> 
> It went from Tampa to the local sorting facility, then to Puerto Rico today. 
> Supposed to be in Flagstaff on Wednesday.
> 
> This should be interesting.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of attaboy…

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I’m still here.  Still have 85 300D, 83 240D and 81/85 300TD. 
Been busy with my wife, she slipped in June in the bathroom and compressed a 
vertebrae.  9 days in hospital, home and then back in hospital with blood borne 
bacteria that nearly killed her.  Still not sure where it came from or how it  
entered her system.  Bacteria attacked all weak areas.  46 days in hospital, 10 
days on a ventilator, brain surgery, lost site on the left side,  damaged a 
heart valve, and then the surgery in her back.  Not a great summer however, she 
is recovering and we feel lucky to still have her with us.  


Michael E. Esh


> On Nov 28, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wilton, Gerry Archer, Larry Turner, Micheal Esh, and perhaps a few others 
> have been notable by their absence.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: November 28, 2021 3:23 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
> Subject: [MBZ] Speaking of attaboy…
> 
> 
> I have not seen anything from Milton in a while. Is he still around or what?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop air

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https://blog.exair.com/2019/05/01/is-pvc-pipe-alright-to-use-with-compressed-air/

Good info on this site with contact info at the to discuss your project.  

Is PVC Pipe Alright to Use with Compressed Air?
PUBLISHED ON May 1, 2019 by Brian Farno
A question arises every now and then on whether or not PVC pipe, yes the stuff 
from your local hardware store that says it is rated for 200 psi, is safe to 
use as compressed air supply line.   The answer is always the same,  NO! OSHA 
agrees – see their statement here.

Schedule 40 PVC pipe is not designed nor rated for use with compressed air or 
other gases.  PVC pipe will explode under pressure, it is impacted 
significantly by temperature and can be difficult to get airtight.

PVC pipe was originally designed and tested for conveyance of liquids or 
products that cannot be compressed, rather they can be pressurized.   The 
largest concern is the failure method of the piping itself.   When being used 
with a liquid that cannot be compressed, if there is a failure (crack or hole) 
then the piping will spring a leak and not shatter.   When introducing a 
compressed gas, such as compressed air, if there is a failure the method ends 
up being shrapnel.  This YouTube video does a good job of illustrating how the 
pipe shatters.


While it may seem that it takes a good amount of pressure to cause a failure in 
the pipe, that is often not the case.  I have chatted with some local shop 
owners who decided to run PVC as a quick and cheap alternative to get their 
machines up and running.

They each experienced the same failures at different points in time as well.  
The worst one was a section of PVC pipe installed over a workbench failed where 
an operator would normally be standing. Luckily the failure happened at night 
when no one was there.  Even though no one got injured this still caused a 
considerable expense to the company because the compressor ran overnight trying 
to pressurize a ruptured line.

Temperature will impact the PVC as well. Schedule 40 PVC is generally rated for 
use between 70°F and 140°F (21°-60°C). Pipes that are installed outside or in 
non temperature controlled buildings can freeze the pipes and make them brittle.

If you haven’t worked with PVC before or do not let the sealant set, it can be 
hard to get a good seal, leading to leaks and a weak spot in the system.

The point of this is the cheapest, quick, and easy solutions are more often , 
the ones that will cost the most in the long run.

If you would like to discuss proper compressed air piping and how to save 
compressed air on your systems, please contact us.

Brian Farno
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> On Oct 25, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> always use a mount clamp at each quick disconnect to reduce strain when you 
>> yank on the hose
> 
> Consider an el-stupido move like catching a hose on the bumper of a car 
> you're backing out.
> You don't want your entire air system to go out the door too, dragging your 
> compressor on
> its side out after you.  Where do you _want_ something to break then?  Make 
> it happen.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sonic fibre internet

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Has anyone signed up for have thoughts on signing up for Starlink?
I currently pay $80 a month for 100 megabyte service.  
Elon wants $500 for the dish and then $99 a month for service that is supposed 
to be 5 times faster and more reliable. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Oct 19, 2021, at 12:10 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Likewise, especially if you’re on DSL. That’s what we used to jokingly refer 
> to as “a fractional T1”.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If the 'last mile' actually made it to your house, and the terms are
>> reasonable, I'd say jump on it.  I've worked for several companies
>> that were focused on making equipment for that, starting in 1996.
>> 
>> Fiber here is still about a mile away.
>> 
>> -- Jim
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[MBZ] Last Message .

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I started receiving email from okie Benz again a few days ago after not seeing 
anything for a couple weeks.  Then yesterday they stopped again. 
Not sure why the stopped originally, why they started up again or why they 
stopped again. 
Thanks,
Mike. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Jul 29, 2021, at 11:05 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nice. Good for another 100 years
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 9:25 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> How about it! No drywall here. Just plaster of Paris and joint compound.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD $5595

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I’m about 3 hours from there. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Jul 28, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I meant Michigan City, Indiana. It's in the northwest corner of Indiana
> about 45 minutes from Midway Airport.
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 3:49 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Not sure where that is, and Google can't find it either. If it's near
>> Michigan state line, that's several hours away from me unfortunately.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> There's a Mercedes dealer in Kalamazoo that serviced a 2015 E250 BlueTEC
>>> sedan that I'm interested in. Unfortunately, that car is being sold by an
>>> independent dealer in West Michigan, Indiana. Does anybody live within
>>> shouting distance of West Michigan?
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 3:35 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Miles?
>>>> 
>>>> Love the color.
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 28, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Decent looking car, but maybe a little steep.
>>>>> Parked in front of a friend's shop, the number on the windshield is
>> the
>>>> shop's phone number.
>>>>> 
>>>>> RF door scratched, rear window delaminating at lower corners, rust on
>>>> top plate of front bumper, minor cracking in driver's seat but pretty
>> good
>>>> for 38 years.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I took more pics if anybody's actually interested.
>>>>> 
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[MBZ] Test

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Not receiving any mail from from the list over the last week. 

Michael E. Esh


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Re: [MBZ] MGB?

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Also, if it has two carbs it has been modified. The 77 originally cam with a 
single Stromberg carburetor.  If it is rust free and running correctly it 
should bring 4
$4000 easily.  What color is it?
Mine Is a 78, Carmine Red. I rebuilt the engine about 15 years ago.   Bored out 
cylinders .40 and upgraded the head with larger valves and added a mild cam.  
Along with the dual carbs and removal of all unnecessary  emissions stuff it’s 
fun to drive.  I’m 5’10” and I fit in it very nicely. That’s mine son Andy and 
our dog Rylee. 


Michael E. Esh


> On Apr 8, 2021, at 5:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I think he's right, about $4000 for a sorted running one. Look for rust.
> Yes, the '77 will have the big ugly black bumper. The good ones ('67 and
> older) have narrow chrome bumpers.
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 3:18 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hire a good photographer, make it a BaT flip.  Check there to see what past
>> auctions have brought.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

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In most cities/towns there are already zoning laws in place that cover number 
of vehicles, unlicensed vehicles, vehicles on blocks and/or abandoned vehicles. 
 The difficulty is assigning manpower to follow up and enforce the existing 
laws. Instead of wasting time writing new laws they need to figure a way to 
enforce the existing ones!


Michael E. Esh


> On Mar 20, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Max I think you're highlighting the issue. Basically out here there are
> millions of people who will repair their cars in their driveways for weeks
> on end and without paying any business taxes for operating a business out
> of their homes if they are fixing other people's cars for money. Lots of
> places have zoning laws prohibiting this sort of thing. The housing density
> out here can also be pretty high, so if your neighbor has three old
> nonfunctional cars in his driveway and it is a foot away from your lawn,
> you might want them out of there also. Anyway I think the problem is
> potentially far larger out here than anyone in your part of the country can
> readily imagine. Sacramento area has a couple million people. Many are
> pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per house,
> trying to keep their overhead as low as possible, e.g. fixing their own
> stuff. I think it is designed to keep entire neighborhoods from looking
> like junkyards.
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:45 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dan, would you move there?  Would you like to live someplace with laws like
>> this?
>> 
>> What in the world is wrong with someone doing major auto repairs in a
>> private home?
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> As a friend in the area says:
>>> 
>>> "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from
>> opening
>>> auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your
>>> own property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what
>>> you’re doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated
>>> and out of date.”
>>> 
>>> It’s clickbait, folks.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
>>>> fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great
>>> schools,
>>>> etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw
>> up
>>> a
>>>> wet dream.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List ;
>>> davesl...@okiebenz.com
>>>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>>>> Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
>>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tested

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Had a friend die yesterday of the virus.  She was in the hospital for almost a 
month.  63 years old and in good health.   
My wife is manager of a locally owned gas station/ convenience store and goes 
to work 6 days a week.  She where’s a mask all day every day.  Has not been 
able to get vaccine.  We are both 63. 


Michael E. Esh


> On Jan 29, 2021, at 3:47 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sister-in-law turned up having COVID this week. Angie's parents had been 
> there last Friday and came to our house for dinner on Sunday. Dagnabbit.
> We went for tests today, gotta say it was way easier than I expected. We went 
> to a health center that's affiliated with our local hospital. Drive up 
> service, we were about 20 minutes early but there was nobody in line and they 
> came out and tested us right away. Quick swab around each nostril, results 
> should be in in a couple days.
> Tough day for them to be doing it, about 10F outside, -10F with the 
> windchill. I was sure glad for heated seats in the Jetta...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] New paint

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$4800. I worked about 30 hours on it. Mostly trim removal and replacement.   
Two others each spent more time than that.  Took us 8 days start to finish. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Jan 19, 2021, at 7:12 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Beautiful!  How much did that set you back?
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> Jan 19, 2021 4:43:25 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes :
> 
>> Just finished new paint job on the 85.  Now to get it home and in the garage 
>> before the salt eats it!  189,000 miles on this one. 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] New paint - another view.

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Michael E. Esh


> On Jan 19, 2021, at 2:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Looks great! Tough to tell exactly what the paint was with all the snow.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Code 702 Smoke Silver Metallic. 
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 6:52 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very nice! What color is it?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Michael Esh  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Just finished new paint job on the 85.  Now to get it home and in the 
>>>> garage before the salt eats it!  189,000 miles on this one.  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Michael E. Esh
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] New paint

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Michael E. Esh


> On Jan 19, 2021, at 1:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What model?
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 6:52 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Very nice! What color is it?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Michael Esh  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just finished new paint job on the 85.  Now to get it home and in the
>> garage before the salt eats it!  189,000 miles on this one.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] New paint

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Code 702 Smoke Silver Metallic. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Jan 19, 2021, at 6:52 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Very nice! What color is it?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Michael Esh  wrote:
>> 
>> Just finished new paint job on the 85.  Now to get it home and in the garage 
>> before the salt eats it!  189,000 miles on this one.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

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Tested negative to COVID last week after checking into emergency at local 
hospital due to chills, severe headache, weakness, muscle and joint pain.   
Diagnosis was pneumonia and injested or inhaled infection that got into the 
blood stream.  5 days and $20,000 later I’m back on my feet and taking 
antibiotic for 2 weeks.  
The hospital COVID test was a 15 minute turnaround for preliminary result and 
60 mins for verification.  

Michael E. Esh


> On Jul 17, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Health care  systems in inaction. Too bad  we didn't get a national testing
> system. IMHO
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 8:37 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Daughter, SiL, and Grandkids got tested in Boston last week, were told that
>> the results would be back in 10-14 days because their labs were processing
>> a lot of the FL tests ---
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 4:53 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The USA is processing somewhere between 500,000 and 1,000,000 tests a
>>> day, it's almost inconceivable (insert Wallace Shawn clip here) that at
>>> least some of them aren't going wrong. If only 1% are faulty that's
>>> 5-10,000 tests a day...
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>On Friday, July 17, 2020, 5:19:35 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think you're onto it with the testing comment Curt.
>>> 
>>> The testing is really NOT inspiring any confidence in the numbers.  Two
>> old
>>> ladies in Houston were waiting outside in the heat and humidity to get
>>> tested after they had filled out the paperwork, got too hot and decided
>> to
>>> leave before getting swabbed.  Couple days later they both get notified
>>> that they are positive.  Too many reports of testing centers in FL which
>>> have 80% or more of the test kits reported as positive, and then when
>>> challenged they say "oh my bad, that was 0.8x%, not 8x%".  Couple of
>>> skeptical nurses took sterile swabs directly from package and inserted
>> into
>>> the lab kit (no swab, going from sterile to sterile with some air
>> exposure
>>> which maybe might have the virus floating around I guess) and send them
>> in
>>> and "surprise, you're positive for the WRD!"
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 9:19 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Or does crappy (rushed) testing result in false negatives where people
>>>> think they're no longer infected when they actually are and the
>>>> "reinfection" is just the original infection part 2.
>>>> The biggest problem in the whole epidemic is people opening their
>> mouths
>>>> first and thinking about the answer later...
>>>> -Curt
>>>> 
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>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] w123 2.88 diff anyone?

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I just put the drivetrain (engine, transmission and rear end) from a 84 300D 
into my 83 240D. The rear end I used was a 3.07.  It is working out very well. 
Plenty of pull in the lower gears and high end cruise at 70 to 80 is pretty 
comfortable. Huge difference from the 3.69 rear end I had in the 240.  Improved 
my 0-60 mph from 23 seconds to 14. 

Also, had the AC converted to cross flow condenser and Sanderson compressor.  
It is working great and stays nice cool even when idling at the stoplights.  
Temps in western Michigan have been in the low to mid 90’s this week. Thanks 
again to Dan for connection to Klima Kits. 

My hope is I will enjoy this car for many years. 

Mike


> On Jul 4, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, July 4, 2020 3:42 pm, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote:
>> Differentials.pdf
> 
> Hmm, would a 3.46 from a non turbo 300D be an upgrade for a 240D in a
> world with 70+ speed limits?
> 
> Looks like a 1987 300D diff would do what Karl wants, maybe with a rear
> cover change if he puts it in a W115/W123.
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Re: [MBZ] cv boots

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I bought one for the 83 240d  from Autozone for about $95. It’s been running 
about a year with no issues. 
I bought front one for 91 Honda Civic from NAPA last month for $64. 

Where did get your last one?  

Michael E. Esh


> On Jun 28, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My cvjreman half shaft outer boot is cracked pretty much all the way
> through in maybe 6 months of around town driving. Who makes good boots?
> Going to have to reboot myself or send it back and complain.
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2020, 10:54 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So at least that aspect should be basically bulletproof, the rest
>> however...
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2842612089157632/
>> 
>> 1989 Bentley Eight
>> $9,950
>> Dealership· Listed 9 weeks ago in Savannah, GA
>> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/104019619634224/>
>> 
>> 
>>About This Vehicle…
>> 
>> Driven 95,258 miles
>> Automatic transmission
>> Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Black
>> VIN: SCBZE02B9KCX24751
>> Fuel type: Other
>> 
>> 
>>Seller's description…
>> 
>> We are pleased to present this 1989 Bentley Eight. The Bentley Eight was
>> introduced in 1984 as a lower priced and less well appointed option to
>> the Mulsanne. Fuel injection and anti-lock brakes were added in 1986,
>> leather upholstery and power memory seats were added in 1987. These
>> upgrades as well as other minor changes all added to the popularity of
>> the Eight. Of course, it has all the appointments expected in a luxury
>> car: power steering, power disc brakes, air conditioning, power remote
>> side mirrors and an upgraded AM/FM CD player. With what we believe to be
>> the original 5.7L fuel injected engine and 3 speed automatic
>> transmission, the vehicle runs and drives as expected. The interior and
>> exterior are both in good shape for its age and non-restored condition.
>> We can coordinate shipping. For more information call us at [hidden
>> information] or email [hidden information].
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a Car to Lust Over

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I just bought a 1991 Honda Civic DX 1.5L 5 speed manual, 4 door. Wind up 
windows however, I can reach all of them from the driver’s seat!Picture 
attached.  216,000 miles. One small spot of surface  rust on rear quarter.  
Starts and runs like new Picked it up for $800. 
AC needs to be sorted out, and I replaced the front passenger side cv axle. (It 
took me 30 minutes) and I’ve never done it before. I love the simplicity, 
remove two bolts, couple taps of a hammer to drop ball joint and back together. 
Not sure if I want keep it or resell it. It’s fun to drive around town but not 
real comfy for long distance.
Note: 1983 240D with new/used 1984 300D drivetrain is up and running. New 
Sanden air compressor and cross flow condenser will be hooked up soon. Thanks 
Dan for the help getting me hooked up with www.Klimakit.com. 

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[MBZ] Fwd: 6/2/2020 Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

The engine and transmission swap is complete!  I am happy with the upgrade. I 
replaced the 240D drive train with a used engine, transmission and rear end out 
of an 84 300D. I have been driving it the last few days and I am happy with 
added power and higher speed drivability.  

 I still have to figure out the cruise control connections. 

Question -Does any one know where the sensor is located on the 84 300D and how 
to hook into the 83 240D chassis. It appears there are two sensors on the 300D, 
one near the back of the engine and another on the front behind the fan.  Which 
one do I use?  
Michael E. Esh


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> From: Michael Esh 
> Date: June 2, 2020 at 11:41:20 AM EDT
> To: Okie Benz 
> Subject: Update - Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D
> 
> 
> Phase one is complete.  I have removed the donor engine from the 84 300D 
> with a bad transmission. I am in the process of replacing the the front seal 
> and checking other components and replacing as needed.
> Next phase is removing transmission from 2nd donor car. (83 300D). I’ve been 
> told by several that the 240D transmission won’t hold up to the additional 
> torque of the turbo engine. 
> I will need a new/used exhaust system. Does anyone have any information on a 
> used stainless system that is for sale.  Rick was able to provide one for my 
> last project (85 300D) that is currently in Texas and being used as a daily 
> driver by my daughter.
> Mike 
> 
> 
> 
> I have a rust free 1983 240D with a worn out engine and a rusted out 84 300D 
> with a strong engine. Looking for a write up or link to any information on 
> moving the engine from 1984 300D turbo chassis to 1983 240D chassis   
> Both are automatics  The 300D transmission is trash, will the 240D 
> transmission matchup to 300D without modifications or performance issues?  
> The 240 has manual HVAC that I want keep.
> 
> I’ve already moved the differential from the 300D to the 240D and like the 
> better highway performance however the 240 engine is pretty worn out and 
> showing its  age. 
> Any help would be appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks
> Mike
> 
> Michael E. Esh
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[MBZ] Update - Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]


Phase one is complete.  I have removed the donor engine from the 84 300D with 
a bad transmission. I am in the process of replacing the the front seal and 
checking other components and replacing as needed. 
Next phase is removing transmission from 2nd donor car. (83 300D). I’ve been 
told by several that the 240D transmission won’t hold up to the additional 
torque of the turbo engine. 
I will need a new/used exhaust system. Does anyone have any information on a 
used stainless system that is for sale.  Rick was able to provide one for my 
last project (85 300D) that is currently in Texas and being used as a daily 
driver by my daughter. 
Mike 



I have a rust free 1983 240D with a worn out engine and a rusted out 84 300D 
with a strong engine. Looking for a write up or link to any information on 
moving the engine from 1984 300D turbo chassis to 1983 240D chassis   
Both are automatics  The 300D transmission is trash, will the 240D transmission 
matchup to 300D without modifications or performance issues?  
The 240 has manual HVAC that I want keep. 

I’ve already moved the differential from the 300D to the 240D and like the 
better highway performance however the 240 engine is pretty worn out and 
showing its  age. 
Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks
Mike

Michael E. Esh


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[MBZ] Hirschmann

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Would any one have the black part that surrounds the brass post in the attached 
picture. I believe it is damaged as I can get the antenna to run the aerial up 
and down but it appears the part is missing some teeth and doesn’t work / 
engage correctly.  
I called Hirschmann and they will not sell me a used part or send me a diagram 
or picture of the part to help me determine what piece is broken off.  They did 
offer to refurbish my antenna for $200. 
Any help would be appreciated. 
Thanks, 
Mike




Michael E. Esh

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Re: [MBZ] YAAAAAYYYYYYY MEEEEEE!!!!!! ITTTTT'SSSS ALLIIIIVVE!!!!!

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

For What it’s worth. 
I recently sold my 2005 Dodge Caravan and the buyer came back to me after 
trying to buy plates for it. She said the licensing bureau claimed there was a 
lien on the title. 
I bought the vehicle new from the dealership and it has been paid off for over 
10 years.  We bought it new had financed around $5000 to qualify for discounts. 
I could not locate the lien release from the loan company so I went back the 
dealership and the woman I spoke with said the loan company was out of business 
and referred me to a service that charges $30 to clear a title.  She also 
discreetly suggested I just sign a fictitious name and date on the stamped form 
the state licensing bureau had placed on the title.  So that’s what I did. That 
was over 2 weeks ago. Hoping for the best. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Apr 30, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I did the most simple thing to try to get this ML500 started. Jumpered the 
> solenoid relay and it cranked right up and started!!  YAY ME! 
>  So now I need to figure out why that relay is not getting power, I think it 
> must be from the ignition switch which is either gone bad or a wire is loose 
> somewhere.  $21 part.   Now to dig into that... or rig up a momentary switch 
> I can use to start it without the ignition switch working...
> 
> But how satisfying!  Now I need to work on clearing the lean and getting 
> the tittle
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Use and old chain/chain saw or a cheap sawsall  all and cut the roots.   It’s a 
bit of work but then it’s done. 



> On Apr 18, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m asking because I literally have nothing to lose at this point…
> 
> I have a 1” schedule 20 PVC sprinkler line that is broken open at a joint at 
> a “T” fitting. Normally I would dig up a portion of the line, cut the 
> offending portion out and replace it with new pieces. But…
> 
> There are two 1” lines traveling together, one on top of the other. The 
> bottom line has the tee that is broken at the joint on one side, the portion 
> of the tee that is parallel to the other line if that makes sense. Both lines 
> are literally surrounded with tree roots, as they’re barely 6’ from an oak 
> tree that is probably 24” in diameter. The roots of the tree have distorted 
> and stressed the lines, causing the top line, which is the supply line from 
> my water meter to the sprinkler valves, to flatten out some. The bottom line 
> is under the same stress from the surrounding roots, but because the tee was 
> present the joint on one side of the tee failed.
> 
> See it here just after we had a good hard rain:  
> http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump.html#1 
> 
> I can’t possibly cut the roots, as some are as large as 3”-4” surrounding 
> these lines. To do so would risk damaging the rather fragile lines not to 
> mention I would have to do some serious excavating to get enough space to get 
> my chain saw at them. There’s no way I could dig them up and “bypass” the 
> tree, as there’s really nowhere to go in close proximity that isn’t rootbound.
> 
> So here’s my Hail Mary:
> 
> Get some of the Flexseal Flex Tape and try to wrap the affected area on the 
> break at the tee. Because the roots have actually grown between the lines 
> slightly, there’s probably enough of a gap that I can slip the tape through 
> to get all the way around the fitting and still partially attached pipe. The 
> gap or break in the pipe is probably 1/4” at it’s greatest width, if that.
> 
> Anyone else have an idea? At this point I really have nothing to lose as the 
> sprinkler zone that’s affected hasn’t worked for years from what I can tell.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Parallel flow condenser

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Thanks Dan. I’ll look o to it. 




> On Apr 12, 2020, at 1:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And just to elaborate, I used their kit for a W126. Everything mated up as 
> promised, installation was simple and straightforward. Definitely made a 
> difference in performance. My car had already been converted to R134a so I 
> had a point of reference. Vent temps were lower and it was more responsive.
> 
> The OE R12 system (converted to R134a) would have noticeable changes in vent 
> temperature at idle, for example. You could feel it blowing warmer air when 
> sitting at a stop light, for instance. As soon as you started moving it would 
> cool down.
> 
> I was a little reluctant to drop the coin for this, but glad I did and would 
> definitely do it again.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 1:46 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Could someone share any info on purchasing and installing a parallel flow 
>> condenser in an 83 240D?
>> I am contemplating upgrading the cooling system as long as I have the engine 
>> out. 
>> Best place to purchase?  Any complications?
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
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Re: [MBZ] sheet metal glue

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I like self tapping screws or pop rivets. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Apr 12, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Long-ish story, but I'm working on making a custom transisition piece
> between two non-standard duct sizes. I have mocked up what I need to
> make using paperboard, but for the sheet metal I'll need to connect a
> few lap seams. I recall that auto panel assembly now uses some sort of
> glue rather than spot welds. Is this something I can find at FLAPS or am
> I better off using screws or pop-rivets? I don't have a spot welder.
> 
> And yes it needs to be sheet-metal not insulated duct board.
> 
> Allan
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[MBZ] Parallel flow condenser

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Could someone share any info on purchasing and installing a parallel flow 
condenser in an 83 240D?
I am contemplating upgrading the cooling system as long as I have the engine 
out. 
Best place to purchase?  Any complications?
Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [MBZ] 300D Engine transfer to 240D

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

84 300D

Michael E. Esh


> On Apr 11, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Which car did the diff come from?
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> Apr 11, 2020 2:30:01 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes :
> 
>> Manual HVAC, roof and windows are electric. Best thing so far is the 
>> differential change. From a 3.69 to 3.07. About a 10 to 12 mile per hour 
>> difference at cruising speed.
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Apr 11, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds like a great project. Will the final car have manual HVAC? Windows 
>>> and sunroof?
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Apr 11, 2020 8:54:31 AM Michael Esh via Mercedes :
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Phase one is complete. I have removed the donor engine from the 84 300D 
>>>> with a bad transmission. I am in the process of replacing the the front 
>>>> seal and checking other components and replacing as needed.
>>>> Next phase is removing transmission from 2nd donor car. (83 300D). I’ve 
>>>> been told by several that the 240D transmission won’t hold up to the 
>>>> additional torque of the turbo engine.
>>>> I will need a new/used exhaust system. Does anyone have any information on 
>>>> a used stainless system that is for sale. Rick was able to provide one for 
>>>> my last project (85 300D) that is currently in Texas and being used as a 
>>>> daily driver by my daughter.
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D Engine transfer to 240D

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Manual HVAC, roof and windows are electric. Best thing so far is the 
differential change. From a 3.69 to 3.07.  About a 10 to 12 mile per hour 
difference at cruising speed. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Apr 11, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a great project. Will the final car have manual HVAC? Windows 
> and sunroof?
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> Apr 11, 2020 8:54:31 AM Michael Esh via Mercedes :
> 
>> Phase one is complete. I have removed the donor engine from the 84 300D 
>> with a bad transmission. I am in the process of replacing the the front seal 
>> and checking other components and replacing as needed.
>> Next phase is removing transmission from 2nd donor car. (83 300D). I’ve been 
>> told by several that the 240D transmission won’t hold up to the additional 
>> torque of the turbo engine.
>> I will need a new/used exhaust system. Does anyone have any information on a 
>> used stainless system that is for sale. Rick was able to provide one for my 
>> last project (85 300D) that is currently in Texas and being used as a daily 
>> driver by my daughter.
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] 300D Engine transfer to 240D

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Phase one is complete.  I have removed the donor engine from the 84 300D with 
a bad transmission. I am in the process of replacing the the front seal and 
checking other components and replacing as needed. 
Next phase is removing transmission from 2nd donor car. (83 300D). I’ve been 
told by several that the 240D transmission won’t hold up to the additional 
torque of the turbo engine. 
I will need a new/used exhaust system. Does anyone have any information on a 
used stainless system that is for sale.  Rick was able to provide one for my 
last project (85 300D) that is currently in Texas and being used as a daily 
driver by my daughter. 
Mike 


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Diesel Engine Workshop Manual

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Thanks Dan!

Michael E. Esh


> On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> I believe you can find the W123 factory manuals online here:
> 
> https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/program/matrix6.htm 
> <https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/program/matrix6.htm>
> 
> https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/disc_2/program/matrix6.htm 
> <https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/disc_2/program/matrix6.htm>
> 
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> While changing out the engine on the 240D I plan on replacing some 
>> components and adjusting, refurbishing and cleaning others.  I have the 
>> Haynes manual which is helpful but doesn’t cover many areas. What manual is 
>> recommended  for working on the W123 diesel cars.  Does anyone have one they 
>> would like sell?
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
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[MBZ] W123 Diesel Engine Workshop Manual

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

While changing out the engine on the 240D I plan on replacing some components 
and adjusting, refurbishing and cleaning others.  I have the Haynes manual 
which is helpful but doesn’t cover many areas. What manual is recommended  for 
working on the W123 diesel cars.  Does anyone have one they would like sell?
Thanks,
Mike



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Re: [MBZ] Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Thanks. Good info. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Mar 21, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 11:38:26 -0400 Michael Esh via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I converted a '82 240D from a four-cylinder engine with an automatic
> transmission to a five-cylinder naturally-aspirated engine with a manual
> transmission at the conclusion of my grad school stint. I was fortunate
> to have a 123.123 Euro car on hand at a nearby salvage yard from which to
> get parts. I chose the naturally-aspirated engine because I wanted simple
> and did not want the complication of a turbo engine.
> 
> 
>> will the 240D transmission matchup to 300D without modifications or
>> performance issues?
> 
> It should bolt up straight away. If it does not, there is a "plate" on
> the back of each engine to which the bellhousing bolts which you can take
> from the OM616.912 to bolt onto the OM617.952. That is referenced in the
> list below as 110 011 15 45.
> 
> 
>> The 240 has manual HVAC that I want keep. 
> 
> Yes, the sensible thing to do! That was one of the benefits I had when I
> turned the 240D into the 240D/3.0. I did the swap primarily, though,
> because the 240D automatic transmission was severely damaged deep inside
> and I thought the OM616 was weak as well. I didn't want to spend $2500 to
> have Ben's Workshop in Austin, TX replace the transmission and still have
> the OM616.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> P.S. The list of part numbers I developed (with a terminal "R" meaning
> I bought the part from Rusty and a terminal "D" meaning I bought
> the part from the Mercedes Dealer in Austin) is:
> 
> Lock lube001 989 26 51 10
> Key Blank Head000 766 44 06
> R main fuel filter001 092 05 01 R
> main fuel filter o-rings007 603 01 81 01
> inline fuel filter001 477 79 01 R
> oil filter617 180 00 09 R
> oil filter cover stem o-rings015 997 94 48 R
> air filter001 094 95 04 R
> Vacuum line oil trapping filter000 078 06 56 
> 
> Steering damper000 463 51 32 R
> 617 engine shock absorbers123 240 09 48 R
> 617 transmission mount123 240 25 18 R
> 617 motor mount123 241 30 13 R
> 617 engine shock weld bracket, left123 620 13 14 D
> 617 engine shock weld bracket, right123 620 14 14 D
> 617 engine lower oil pan115 010 04 28 R
> 
> air cleaner mounting isolators617 988 01 11 D
> 617 improved crankcase ventilation hose617 018 01 82 R
> 617 manifold gasket617 142 07 80 R
> exhaust manifold to tail pipe bolts304 017 08 53 D
> exhaust manifold to tail pipe nuts000 990 32 50 D
> water pump110 200 17 20 R
> power steering pump mounting bolts304 014 08 09 D
> power steering pump mounting bolt washers000 137 08 204 D
> tail pipe hangers ("rubber donuts")124 492 00 44 D
> 
> prechamber616 010 01 52 R
> prechamber seal ring615 017 00 60 R
> injector nozzle plate (seal) type 1617 017 03 60 R
>"  "  " "type 2601 017 00 60 R
> injector return line615 476 03 26 D
> injector return line plug403 070 00 55 D
> injection pump mounting gasket616 074 00 80 R
> large banjo bolt copper seal ringN007603014405 R
> small banjo bolt copper seal ring007 603 012 111 R
> fuel pump/main filter plastic hose w/banjo fit.615 070 42 32 R
> inj. pump/injector return plasic hose w/banj.ft 615 070 56 32 R
> inj. pump plastic fuel hose w/banjo fittings615 070 40 32 R
> diesel fuel return007 997 16 82 R
> 
> engine plate (to which bell housing bolts)110 011 15 45
> manual transmission pilot bearing115 980 01 15 R
> manual transmission flywheel-to-crank bolts615 032 05 71 R
> 615, 616 stick-shift flywheel115 032 06 01
> 617 stick-shift flywheel617 032 00 01
> clutch disk010 250 34 03 R
> clutch pressure plate004 250 32 04 R
> clutch throw-out bearing000 250 55 15 R
> clutch slave cylinder001 295 68 07 R
> clutch slave cylinder to bell housing gasket110 138 41 30 D
> clutch master cylinder/brake reservoir tubing009 997 38 82 D
> Transmission tunnel hole plug000 997 40 20 D
> Bellhousing inspection hole plug617 014 04 33 R
> clutch switch to cutoff cruise control004 545 18 14 D
> clutch swit

[MBZ] Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I have a rust free 1983 240D with a worn out engine and a rusted out 84 300D 
with a strong engine. Looking for a write up or link to any information on 
moving the engine from 1984 300D turbo chassis to 1983 240D chassis   
Both are automatics  The 300D transmission is trash, will the 240D transmission 
matchup to 300D without modifications or performance issues?  
The 240 has manual HVAC that I want keep. 

I’ve already moved the differential from the 300D to the 240D and like the 
better highway performance however the 240 engine is pretty worn out and 
showing its  age. 
Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks
Mike

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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

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Well said.  My son was just told to go home from his Michigan state college 
until further notice.  All classes will be online.
My take is they are trying to slow the process down so the hospitals are not 
overrun. 
  
Michael E. Esh


> On Mar 12, 2020, at 10:13 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is actually real.  Very contagious, more so that flu (3.5 persons 
> infected on average by every contagious person) and a death rate from 2 to 
> 5%, heavily skewed to older (60 +) individuals.
> 
> Serious disease rate is around 20% -- that, requiring hospitalization.
> 
> China managed to stop it by putting the entire population of some fairly 
> large cities essentially on house arrest
> 
> My personal estimation is that a very large number of people are already 
> infected in the US, this particular disease is at the exponential increase 
> stage since we are doing essentially nothing to control it yet, with the 
> potential to infect a million or so people, put 200,000 extra people in the 
> hospital in the next few weeks, and end up with 30,000 extra deaths IF we get 
> moving and stop the spread.
> 
> If we don't figure millions infected, tens of thousands of extra deaths, 
> hospitals unable to treat patients for anything, extra deaths from flu and 
> all sorts of other things, and a MAJOR economic recession.
> 
> Gonna be a rough one -- in fact, the major outbreak of novel disease many 
> epidemiologists have been losing sleep over for th last couple decades.
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Re: [MBZ] I leave town and people get a brilliant idea to buy the kid a car while I am gone

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Sounds like he is chip off the old block.  How many cars does he have now?  

Michael E. Esh


> On Feb 15, 2020, at 8:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I guess. These people looked it over and drove it etc so they went into it 
> knowing. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Divine Providence?
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Feb 15, 2020 8:54:42 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
>> 
>>> Wife listed it on fakebook and within an hour it was sold for $1200 cash. 
>>> Unbelievable.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 15, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It sounds like they paid about $800 too much!
>>>> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
>>>> 2019 Sprinter 336 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard AKA Der DoodleWagen
>>>> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard waiting for her new power plant
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So the 24 year old kid that lives at home finally got a job at a fast 
>>>>>> food place and his grandmothers boyfriend gave him a 87 Buick Century 
>>>>>> that his 80 year mother drove. It only had 80k miles but is ugly because 
>>>>>> it has rust. It had a few issues such as the turn signals quit working 
>>>>>> and the ignition switch got stuck in the on position. I fixed ignition 
>>>>>> and pulled the fuse for the blinkers and put it back in and they started 
>>>>>> working. They evidentially quit working so I was at a loss as to what 
>>>>>> the issue was. I do not work on these sort of cars so I had no interest 
>>>>>> in it. Told him to take it somewhere. He also just had the brakes done. 
>>>>>> New muffler was installed also.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I guess somehow the idea came about while I was gone for my father to 
>>>>>> buy him another car. Somebody on Fakebook my wife knew was selling this 
>>>>>> 02 Mercury Cougar for $1200 so they went to look at it Monday. The car 
>>>>>> has 209k miles. So as I am out of town she is texting me and come to 
>>>>>> find out the battery is completely dead. My father went down and bought 
>>>>>> a battery for it to see if it would start. I let her know it sounded 
>>>>>> like a $400 car if that. She then messages me saying it cranks and wont 
>>>>>> start and wants to know what the cause could be. Could be many things. 
>>>>>> So they got it started finally and next thing I know they paid $800 for 
>>>>>> it. They never even drove the car.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wife later tells me it shakes real bad on the highway and wants me to 
>>>>>> look at it when I get home. I told her the tires probably need to be 
>>>>>> balanced. So the kid goes out and starts it up as I am heading out the 
>>>>>> door. I hear a loud rattle as it starts like lifters, timing chain, 
>>>>>> something. Not really sure because I was not there when he started it. I 
>>>>>> drove the car down the road and holy hell I don't think I have ever been 
>>>>>> in a car that shook so bad. It was all over the road and felt like the 
>>>>>> front end was about the fall out from under it. Backing up a bit in the 
>>>>>> story, Right after the kid first started it to back it into the driveway 
>>>>>> I checked the oil, coolant etc. Only had run for 30 seconds so cold 
>>>>>> engine. When I pulled the coolant cap it had some pressure in the system 
>>>>>> after sitting for however long it was before I got back home.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyway, got it back home, all 4 tires are bald and dry rotted, I can 
>>>>>> smell oil burning, has some sort of consistent knock from the engine, 
>>>>>> sort of a dull knock that changes with RPM. I listened with a long 
>>>>>> screwdriver thinking it might be top end but I could never really find 
>>>>>> it, so I suspect its coming from the bottom end. It is PRETTY obvious 
>>>>>> and 

Re: [MBZ] Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Way to go Andrew!

Michael E. Esh


> On Feb 13, 2020, at 9:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Actually, they found a rust free door for half that price relatively nearby
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 7:38 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Reading the fine print, I see that shipping is free west of the Rockies
>> and east of the Rockies they add a fuel surcharge, but it’s less than $250.
>> 
>> Got any better options?
>> 
>> I think not. So quit your carping and being cheap and just call them and
>> buy one. It will be easy for a competent body shop to prep and make it nice
>> off the car.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Reinvent the Wheel:
>>> 
>>> https://www.dieselmercedes.com/Default.asp
>>> 
>>> $500, free shipping:
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.dieselmercedes.com/Mercedes_Driver_s_Side_Front_Door_W123_Sedan_Wagon_p/0291-w23-u.htm
>>> 
>>> You’re welcome.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I would, of course, as soon as I find out whom to contact.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 11:56 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> You won't know unless you contact them and ask will you?
>>>>> Sometimes we get pleasant surprises.
>>>>> 
>>>>> RB
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 13/02/2020 10:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> Probably impractical since they either probably don't ship, would
>> charge
>>>>>> too much for shipping, or take too long while my car is sitting in the
>>>>>> shop.
>>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

The last radio/cd player I bought has a voltmeter as one of the options in the 
display.


https://www.crutchfield.com/p_158XB120BT/Sony-MEX-XB120BT-CD-Receiver.html




> On Feb 6, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I bought one of those off Amazon, it's kind of interesting to watch. It's 
> how I detected the ASV alternator not charging. It'd be interesting to know 
> how long that's been the case before I bothered to look...
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 3:20 PM, Greg Fiorentino via 
> Mercedes wrote:   Maybe stick a little digital 
> voltmeter into the cig lighter to keep tabs on how the battery is doing as 
> you drive, so you can avoid changing batteries in an inconvenient location 
> should that prove necessary.
> 
> g
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dimitri 
> Seretakis via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2020 3:11 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Dimitri Seretakis
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Running w124 300D with failed alternator?
> 
> Ok good to know.  I’ll probably pull the battery out of my 85 300D which I 
> don’t use in the winter as a backup for the trip.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> Yes  Group 49
>>> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>> February 6, 2020 at 1:23 PM
>>> Another good suggestion. Anyone know if it takes a group 49?
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[MBZ] The Good Kids: Was OT: Banned in Britain

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

My son who is now 21 and applying for Med school, which will not be easy as he 
a white male, was a scout from age 6 through 16.  Although he wanted to quit 
several times through the years he stuck it out ended up as an Eagle Scout.  We 
are very proud if him. 
There are many success stories involving the “youngsters” of this generation 
though we most often hear of losers and trouble makers that are a part of every 
generation.  
It is important to share the good stories as well





> On Feb 6, 2020, at 9:03 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> not much.   Ferguson MO provides a glimpse of what happens when civilization 
> breaks down.  First looting, burning and shooting; then starvation.   In big 
> cities, the food runs out after a few days.  Then the looting will start.
> 
> Boy Scouts have been under attack for almost 50 years.   I heard the comment 
> Tuesday that "Scouting is not what it was when I was a kid."   I was lucky.   
> Our Scoutmaster was a forester for a paper mill.   We hiked in, pitched camp, 
> scrounged firewood, and did what is now called "primitive camping."   We just 
> thought it was normal camping.  A lot of places, we could not even hear any 
> sign of civilization, except for contrails in the sky.I was able to buy a 
> Brit surplus Sheffield machete.   It was crude and dull and cheap.  It took a 
> lot of grinding to get it sharp.   But the steel is fantastic.  In 50+ years, 
> I've only had to touch it up once after I got it sharp.   That and a pocket 
> knife or three, would be my first choice of survival tools.
> 
>> Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>> February 6, 2020 at 1:37 AM
>> When I was a kid (late 50s) boys in my area routinely spent a few weeks each 
>> summer at a camp (boy scout, YMCA, church, etc). In NJ, no less. Conditions 
>> were primitive (outhouse, tent, etc.) and we learned how to living rough, 
>> albeit with store-bought groceries and a clean water supply. Looking at 
>> Google Earth, there are housing developments where those campgrounds once 
>> stood.
>> 
>> So I have to wonder: how much do kids learn today about low-tech life?? I 
>> mean basic boy scout stuff like making fire, land navigation, first aid, 
>> finding shelter, foraging for food, etc. I'm afraid I know the answer.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Life cycle costs for manufacturing waste, recycling for wind turbines

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In support of warming the blades. 

https://www.windpowerengineering.com/the-cold-hard-truth-about-ice-on-turbine-blades/

Michael E. Esh


> On Jan 26, 2020, at 8:38 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Somebody already mentioned it: heat the wind turbine blades to keep ice from 
> forming. Easy solution. Next problem?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] anyone need foot powered washer pump?

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This one is only $497.95 plus shipping. 


https://www.authenticclassics.com/Windshield-Washer-Foot-Pump-with-Switch-p/auth-004336.htm



> On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:57 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> These were used before the switch to electric washer pumps.   They were used 
> in the 110, and 111 among other models.   I really liked them because you can 
> vary the pressure, thus hit very high on the windshield, or middle or just 
> inside the wiper arc, depending on where the bug accumulation was.
> 
> Good deal in Yurp.   Shipping may be prohibitive, unless you are going to 
> yurp anyway.
> 
>  http://mbspecialist.com/mercedes_webcatalog/item/0008600126/
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D -rear window wipes (outer)

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I went ahead and ordered some from the Woolies website.  I’ll post about them 
after they arrive. 
Thanks for the help 

Michael E. Esh


> On Jan 4, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Not off the top of my head. Last time I got some I got it from my Turkish 
> buddy on eBay. I think a set of four was $100 shipped.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:35 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dan, do you know of a bulk supplier in the US?
>> Yes I’m talking about the outer window scrapers. 
>> I found this one but it is in UK.   Does this one look like the correct 
>> profile?
>> 
>> https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/product/1734/window-weatherstrip
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do you mean the window scrapers? The rubber seal on the outside of the 
>>> window that is clipped onto the door along with the molding?
>>> 
>>> If so, you can find it in bulk online from non-MB suppliers, I believe. 
>>> What you get from MB is a bulk piece you have to cut to size. Been that way 
>>> for years.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Just got info from Tom at the Classic Center. He quoted The rear outer 
>>>> window wipes are $107.00 each.  Mine are falling apart but I can’t see 
>>>> spending that much.  Does anyone know of any aftermarket or any other 
>>>> solutions?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> Michael E. Esh
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D -rear window wipes (outer)

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Dan, do you know of a bulk supplier in the US?
Yes I’m talking about the outer window scrapers. 
I found this one but it is in UK.   Does this one look like the correct profile?

https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/product/1734/window-weatherstrip

Thanks,
Mike




> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Do you mean the window scrapers? The rubber seal on the outside of the 
> window that is clipped onto the door along with the molding?
> 
> If so, you can find it in bulk online from non-MB suppliers, I believe. What 
> you get from MB is a bulk piece you have to cut to size. Been that way for 
> years.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Just got info from Tom at the Classic Center. He quoted The rear outer 
>> window wipes are $107.00 each.  Mine are falling apart but I can’t see 
>> spending that much.  Does anyone know of any aftermarket or any other 
>> solutions?
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
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[MBZ] 1983 240D -rear window wipes (outer)

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Just got info from Tom at the Classic Center. He quoted The rear outer window 
wipes are $107.00 each.  Mine are falling apart but I can’t see spending that 
much.  Does anyone know of any aftermarket or any other solutions?
Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [MBZ] Paint color

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Thanks for the help. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Nov 26, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes!  Most popular color between 1978 and 1983, I think.
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 4:11 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Looks like 172. Is that anthracite grey?
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Nov 26, 2019 3:16:55 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes :
>> 
>>> 1984 240D
>>> Can anyone tell me the number that indicates the paint code and then
>> tell me the color?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike
>>> 
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[MBZ] Paint color

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

1984 240D
Can anyone tell me the number that indicates the paint code and then tell me 
the color?  
Thanks, 
Mike


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300D vacuum diagram

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Thanks Andrew!

Michael E. Esh


> On Nov 18, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> Mike, you can get that from Tom Hanson of the classic center. He will send
> you the fiche gratis.
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 2:42 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Could some send or point me to a vacuum diagram for my 1985 300D?
>> I have an intermittent shutoff issue and would like get familiar with it
>> before I start pulling and plugging lines.  I’ve already plugged off the
>> door locking system and am still having the problem.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300D vacuum diagram

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Thanks Craig!

Michael E. Esh


> On Nov 18, 2019, at 1:50 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:42:06 -0600 Michael Esh via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Could some send or point me to a vacuum diagram for my 1985 300D?
>> I have an intermittent shutoff issue and would like get familiar with
>> it before I start pulling and plugging lines.  I’ve already plugged off
>> the door locking system and am still having the problem.  
> 
> I have it and a bunch of other stuff which I will send you off list, Mike.
> 
> 
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[MBZ] 85 300D vacuum diagram

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Could some send or point me to a vacuum diagram for my 1985 300D?
I have an intermittent shutoff issue and would like get familiar with it before 
I start pulling and plugging lines.  I’ve already plugged off the door locking 
system and am still having the problem.  

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [MBZ] 123 FB

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That’s funny. I like him a little bit more for that comment. 



> On Nov 3, 2019, at 9:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> Check out Pierre's comment. I wonder if he will get the boot?
> 
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[MBZ] 1985 300TD Accumulators

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Getting ready to order the nitrogen filled accumulators for my wagon.  Does 
anyone have experience and/or recommendations on the quality of aftermarket 
accumulators?  
Tom Hansen quoted $232.00 per accumulator for OEM.   eBay has some aftermarket 
listed for around $160.00 for a pair of them. 
Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [MBZ] Costco tires

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Hey Andrew, do you know about  how many miles do you have on your Goforms?  

Michael E. Esh


> On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The $45 Go Forms are starting to deteriorate after 8 years - not bad for an
> off brand.
> 
> I found some decent Nankang H rated all weather tires online @$50, all
> inclusive.  I will ask Costco to mount/balance them.  If all goes well, I
> will share my experience with the selling website.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 4:19 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> 
>>> Costco doesn't carry any 195/70/14 tires for my 300TD
>> 
>> Sure they do. See the attached screenshot. They aren't your cheap,
>> Pro-form, $25 a tire, but they sell that size tire. Order a set and call it
>> good. Or go to Discount Tire and have them mount your cheapies.
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] New Mercedes (Spoiler) Matchbox - photo attached

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Finally purchased a new Mercedes. 



Michael E. Esh

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Re: [MBZ] 82/85 300TD rear suspension

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Thanks for all info!  It may be a while but I will let you know the outcome.




> On Sep 11, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Concur with all the answers regarding the control valve, but if your SLS
> pump cannot rebuild pressure within a couple minutes of running, your pump
> may also be weak and needs to be either rebuilt or replaced.
> 
> A good check for the health of the control valve: After engine shut-down
> (assuming the rear suspension height is correct / pumped up to normal)
> check the reservoir under the hood, and observe if the return line is
> dripping.  Some dripping will be normal, but if it keeps on dripping a
> steady drip, the base pressure valve has failed and that is why the rear
> end leaks down and sags.  On my euro '85 wagon, I could watch through the
> reservoir lid for the dripping, but on US models and other years, I think
> the reservoir is different so you may need to remove the line so you can
> let it drip into a cup or something.
> -
> Max
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[MBZ] 82/85 300TD rear suspension

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

82 300TD

Hi folks
I’m beginning work (again) on my 82 wagon and am planning on driving it to 
Austin, TX from Michigan this winter to visit my daughter.  My son-in-law 
worked on the rear suspension several years ago and at that time it seemed to 
be working well.  Now the rear end of the car drops down after sitting a couple 
of days. When I drive, it will slowly recover and work pretty well.  
 I know there have been prior discussions about what causes this but I have not 
been able to find those emails. Is there a basic troubleshooting guide/tutorial 
for the rear suspension on the web or could someone school me on what the fix 
might be. 

Thanks,
Mike

Hot and humid in Michigan 

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Re: [MBZ] 240D door seals and clips

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Sorry, 1983 240 D

Michael E. Esh


> On Aug 27, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Model year and/or chassis number?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone have the part numbers handy for the front door seals and 
>> installation clips for W123 chassis
>> My internet access is down and I would like to order a set of them. 
>> I’m going to call and try to order them. 
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
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[MBZ] 240D door seals and clips

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Does anyone have the part numbers handy for the front door seals and 
installation clips for W123 chassis
My internet access is down and I would like to order a set of them. 
I’m going to call and try to order them. 

Michael E. Esh



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Re: [MBZ] 123 Fakebook fools for today

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Agreed. Although I have been entertained and sometimes disappointed when 
reading posts of all who participated in making light of the arrogance, 
ignorance and lack of experience of some members of the W123 group as well some 
the members of this group. 
I try to remember that when pointing the finger at others there are three other 
fingers pointing back at you. I am guilty of this as well.  
Mike

Michael E. Esh


> On Aug 4, 2019, at 10:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No need. No one cares any more.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 10:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I have no updates on the nonsense going on because I was banned.  
>> Somebody else will have to start reporting back to us what the new level of 
>> stupidity is.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Michael Esh's Next Car?

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And it says 2,000 miles on it!  

Michael E. Esh


> On Jun 21, 2019, at 12:54 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
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> Seems he has collected a few 123's, what's one more?
> 
> https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/653542158496144
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[MBZ] Backpack steel blade trimmer.

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