Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

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Dan,
I feel much better now knowing that you speak for all voting in the entire 
USA...NOT.  Thumb drives floated around in Fulton County where the votes 
changed by several hundred thousand.  Observers were obstructed.  Votes were 
counted after observers were sent home under the guise of a water main break 
which was really a bathroom leak early in the day.  Then votes were counted 
after the observers left.  Even CNN in their live feed showed massive vote 
swings in PA as well.  Did you EVER see vote counts go down?  I haven't.  I'm 
glad you trust computers, but having been around them since they were first put 
into general use, I know the old adage "garbage in garbage out" still applies.
Regards,
Roger

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Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

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Sorry guys, but I'm not going to continue a waste of time discussion regarding 
this election.  Yes, the machines should work.  And everyone should tell the 
truth.  And Santa Claus does exist.  If you want to join the MSM and say any 
contrary opinion is a misstatement, then that is your right.  My right is to 
express that contrary opinion because I'm tired of the "misstatement, 
fraudulent claims, conspiracy theory" responses without a rebuttal.
So, I'm not playing further.  You can have your belief and I'll have mine, but 
I doubt they'll ever agree.
Happy Holidays,

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Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

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Kaleb,
Some people are drinking the kolaide.  GA. reran the same corrupt votes 3 times 
without confirming signatures.  What's the definition of insanity?  The gov and 
SOS are linked into a voting machine selection scam and therefore have made no 
REAL steps to isolate the illegal votes, especially in Fulton County the home 
of our wonderful Atlanta.  And yes, it's been proven by forensic techs that our 
Dominion machines can and were connected to the internet as well as the 
software being open to manipulation.  The MSM has been complicit in this 
coverup. 
I'm sorry for adding this, but I've seen/read/heard too many coverup 
explanations for a corrupt election.
Regards,
Roger

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Re: [MBZ] I was nearly killed today

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Kaleb,
When I had cracked ribs during the 80s, the Dr. gave me some mild pain pills 
and a wrap for my ribs and chest to limit my movement and protect against any 
coughing or heavy breathing.  It took me 3-4 weeks to fully recover.  It hurt 
to breathe deep, it hurt to cough, and it hurt to make any sudden movements, 
especially bending over. 
So, take care and relax.  I don't know if your upcoming travel is a good idea, 
might be worth a Dr. visit for a medical opinion on that.
Best Wishes,
Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Fakebook 124 AC idiocy

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Well, I hate to even chime in here, but...  I know some of you are purist, but 
my 1983 300D with over 360,000 miles and still the same compressor from 20 
years ago, has run R12, Freeze12, DuraCool, R134a, and something else.  The oil 
has been mixed.  It will still cool if topped off and stop the heater valve 
from overcoming the cool air.  So, no it is not recommended to mix but it will 
work.  My car is proof.  It also has only run Dino 15x40 Mobil, no synthetic.
Best Wishes and Happy 4th,
Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Unsafe at any price??

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I had two 1964 Corvair Monzas when I was in college.  They were great cars.  I 
lived in the country and they handled curvy roads great.   Ralph was full of it 
and like people of today, wrote a book to make a name and money.  Who cares 
about the truth.  Being so low to the ground, it was almost impossible to roll 
one and the handling was great.  So, my experience with two was that the term 
unsafe was totally wrong.  Now, in a head on collision with a rear engine, the 
front folded like a Volkswagen, but that's another story.  I loved the two I 
had, great drivers with great power.
Best Wishes,
Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap rotors

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Just some more info.  My old Indies used the rule of thumb that you replaced 
the rotors with every 2nd or 3rd set of pads, depending on the rotor wear.  
Never turn the rotors.  This worked great on both my 123 and 116.
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Roger
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Re: [MBZ] It?s hard to tell fact from fiction

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Guys, look at the WHO site.  They have scared everyone with their pandemic 
stuff, but even they think it will be gone, like the flu, as soon as the temps 
get into the 70s/80s (yes, root for global warming).  The big worry is getting 
big pharma to get some treatment drugs before next Winter/flu season. 
Personally, I think this was planned/orchestrated by the Chinese, Soros, Iran, 
CCF, and others to get back at USA policies which have made us a better 
country.  I think everyone should grab their butts, stop overreacting, and get 
on with life.  I worry more about illegal drunk drivers with no insurance than 
I do about the Mexican Beer virus.  Like 911, our lack of intestinal fortitude 
is seriously hurting our economy for no "real reason".
Just my .02.  As always, yours may differ.
Best Wishes,
Roger
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[MBZ] East Coast Sinking

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For those who might care, here's one of many stories about why water levels are 
rising on the east coast of the US.  I was told this over 4 decades ago in my 
HS science classes.  Yes folks, the east coast has been sinking for centuries.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2017/09/12/study-finds-the-east-coast-of-america-is-sinking-into-the-atlantic-ocean/#4a38b9cf33fb

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Roger
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[MBZ] Corona Beer Virus, AKA Boo I scared you

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According to the CDC for 2018, the USA had 14.9 flu deaths per 100,000 
population.  The 2017-2018 flu season was severe for all populations and 
resulted in an estimated 959,000 hospitalizations and 61,099 deaths.  I 
seriously doubt that the Corona Beer virus will come close to these numbers.  
BUT, it will result in a higher national debt, more people making money from 
speaking about it, and other means of scaring the pubic.  And if FL drops off 
and goes South, it will most likely be because the plates moved and FL is going 
home to Africa.
Stop worrying...be safe, stay alive, and get on with your lives.
Best Wishes,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] 1980 Mercedes 300sd Turbo Diesel - cars & trucks - by owner -...

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Kevin,
Yes, you can apply that money to a 240D, but you'll still have a low power, 
smaller, worse handling vehicle than the 1980 300SD.  And you can buy a kit on 
eBay for $450 to replace the servo system.  I have a 1980 300SD which now has 
around 420,000 miles.  I finally replaced the trans about 2 years ago.  It 
still has the original exhaust system and has never had the head off or any 
other major work.  I had it unregistered for about a year, sitting in the 
garage, but it's the wife's car and she wanted it drive-able, so I've started 
getting things back in order. All that remains is getting the AC back in order 
when it gets warm.  There is no comparison between the ride of a 240D and a 
300SD.  Yes, the price may be a bit high, but if all is OK, start negotiating.  
I got mine at 186,000 miles over 20 years ago and I've never regretted it.
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[MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

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Dan,
My view might be different as I grew up in the country and somewhat close to 
"smaller" big cities (no NY or LA).  It was my experience that if you didn't 
show by 5:00PM you were out of luck.  In the 60's grocery and some other 
businesses started staying open to 6, 7, 8, and finally 9:00PM into the 70's.  
I'm sure this might also have differed by size of city and type of business.  
However, I always thought that those times were more to fit the TV show plot 
than to fit reality.
Just my thoughts...
Best Wishes,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] Political positioning RE: wind turbines

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Gee whiz, could you guys give this wind stuff a rest.  It's obvious that no one 
has an answer.  You've bored me to the point that I may have to go read posts 
on the Ritter list which died a while back but still hasn't realized it from 
just this sort of discussions.  I'm going to get my 1980 300SD out tomorrow and 
drive it.  And I may blow some black smoke.
Best wishes and please move on to another topic.
Roger
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[MBZ] OT: HP 8540P EliteBook

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Yes, these are the business grade Elitebooks.  I did some purchasing for a 
company back in 2014-2015 and these were the units I purchased for everyone 
that needed a laptop.  Great machines, durable, plenty fast, excellent video, 
etc.  And the price looks really good also.
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Roger
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Re: [MBZ] More Windows 10

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Kaleb,
Glad to hear the good news.  I figured it was something basic.  I guess we all 
forgot to tell you to check the original Win10 upgrade specs against your 
system which would probably have pointed out the issue you had.  Is there still 
no way to use PCMover to help instead of loading a lot of stuff and have to 
setup all your preferences?  Just a thought.
Best Wishes,
Roger
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[MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade

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Kaleb,
I realized I left out the assumption per your email that you would do a fresh 
install on the new SSD drive of Win 10 Pro.  That way when you move the apps, 
etc. from the old drive to the SSD all should be well.  Check to be sure 
PCMover will go from Win7 to Win10.  It's been a few years since I've used it, 
but I'll have to again soon as I'm moving my apps, etc. from my old Vostros to 
the newer Vostros. 
Sorry for jumping ahead.  The little gray cells get mixed up the older I get :-)
Again, good luck,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] More windows 10 update

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Kaleb,
Sorry to hear you are still having problems.  Do you have another PC?  If so 
you can do the following.  Put your secondary drive (your original) into the 
second PC.  Hopefully, it will boot ok.  If it does, you can use PCMover to 
move all your apps from the second PC back to your original PC which would save 
you a lot of time.  PCMover doesn't move the OS, only the apps and files and 
settings.  I still think there is something about your Ultimate version of Win7 
that Win10 Pro does not like.  I've used Win10 Pro now for over 3 years and I 
like it better than Win7 Pro and I really liked Win7 Pro.
Good luck and again call me if I can help.
Best Wishes,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] Windows 7 to 10 upgrade

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Craig,
I bought a thumb drive on eBay that has Win10 plus some repair stuff.  It all 
fits on the 8gb thumb drive.  Very convenient, I've used it several times now.  
You still need a product code to activate.
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] Windows 7 to 10 upgrade

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Kaleb,
I feel for you as I've had some of those experiences.  Did you get the same 
error again?  My last install was from a thumb drive I ordered on eBay that 
includes Windows 10 plus some problem fix software.  I agree with the comment 
about going directly to the web and not using WiFi.  Have you checked your 
firewall and other setting in your current Win Ultimate?  It could be something 
that Win10 can't accommodate.  I have Win 10 Enterprise on a Dell 460 which I 
might want to convert to Win 10 Pro as I can't get a real license for 
Enterprise.  But Enterprise sure does run fast, etc.
Again, good luck and call me if talking might help you work into a solution.
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade from 7

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Kaleb,
Have you run a search for logs?  There is a log folder under Windows.  It 
normally only holds "update" logs, but check anyway.  Also, did you go to your 
PC maker and get the latest BIOS?  I still think it's something simple which is 
being masked by the final error message.  Did you get my files?
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

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Kaleb,
I sent you some file attachments, but neither my email or the files seem to 
have made it through to you.  If you get them, try the Upgrade Assistant 
(original).  It was good at finding and showing actual reasons that your PC is 
not ready for an upgrade.  It was the reason I found out that one of my Vostros 
needed a BIOS upgrade first.
And for the other naysayers, I've always upgraded because it keeps all my 
settings and I don't have to waste time creating them again.  Also, I first 
used Macs in the early 90s.  They had HD controller problems and other issues.  
Yes they had good graphics, but...   We all like what we use.  I just don't use 
odd or non mainstream APPs.  Not worth the OS problems they can cause.
Again, good luck,
Roger
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[MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

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Kaleb,
What was the error code this time?  And please look for a log file for more 
specifics.  I'll bet when you find the cause it is something simple.  Do you 
have any "strange apps" that Win10 needs to make compatible from Win7?  Take 
everything out of your startup folder and retry.  You might also go to Task 
Mgr. and look for any odd services that my be running.  We have all added lots 
of things to our PCs and hope that Windows will be happy with them.  Remember 
Win 3 that had all the DLL problems caused by outside vendors and their Apps.  
It's always easier to blame MS than to blame ourselves.
Good luck,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade on PC

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Kaleb,
I may have missed it before, but can you tell me what the pc is that you are 
upgrading?  For example, maker/model, processor, mem amt. and type, HD and free 
space, etc.  Also, have you checked that you have the latest Win7 OS upgrades 
and that your BIOS is current.  Also, I would suggest removing any odd cards 
that may be in the PC.  There maybe be something like the BIOS issue I had on 
my old Vostro 200.  There are some processor features that Win10 requires be 
turned on that Win7 did not care about.  Once I upgraded my BIOS on the Vostro, 
the upgrade flew right through.
Good Luck,
Roger
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[MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade on PC

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Kaleb,
Have you checked that you have the latest updates for Win7 before you try to do 
the upgrade?  Also, it may be that you are upgrading from an Ultimate version, 
which is possible, but again, it should end up as Win10 Pro.  I've only 
upgraded from Win7 Pro 64-bit to Win10 Pro 64-bit and that has worked great on 
several PCs.
-R written on a 13 year old Dell Vostro that has always run Windows.
Good Luck,
Roger
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[MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade on PC

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Kaleb, look at this link...

https://www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-10-update-keeps-failing-0x8007001f-0x20006

Did you turn off your virus software?  Clear any cache?
Good Luck,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

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Kaleb,
Did you check for an installation or error log or event log that might give you 
the exact cause for the load failure?  If you have Ultimate, you will end up 
with Win10 Pro, not Ultimate.  Are you certain that your Win7 ultimate product 
key is a valid key?  I ordered a thumb drive from a guy on eBay that will 
install Win10 or do fixes to existing installs of Win10 (I think it was around 
$11).  If you can get Win10 installed, go to a junk computer store or Goodwill 
and copy the product key off a box and use it.  MS will take the valid key and 
give you a new digital key.  I have a Dell460 that I got last summer, supposed 
to have Win10Pro but it was Win10 Enterprise without a valid product key.  
Since I can't get a valid key, I may just do a Win10 Pro upgrade on it to make 
it valid.
You need to find out specifically what is blocking the upgrade.  As I said 
before, it could be the need for a BIOS upgrade as it will prevent the upgrade 
also.
Good luck,
Roger
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[MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

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Kaleb,
Much like problem determination on a car, you need to provide more than "it 
failed for some reason".  Was it hardware, too little disk space, bad Win7 
product id, etc.  You have until Jan. 14 to upgrade using the free upgrade with 
a valid Win7 product ID.
Best Wishes,
Roger
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[MBZ] OT - Win10 Va Win 7

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Larry,
I pass on to you what I've told before.  I have two old Dell Vostros with Dual 
Core processors.  They were originally 4mb memory which Dell said couldn't be 
upgraded because they never certified it as well as not certifying Win10.  I 
upgraded both to Win10 back in 2016, I think, first year available.
Now, I upgraded the memory on both to 8mb because I could and it worked fine.  
I upgraded the processor on one easily.  I added an SSD drive to one easily.  
They both work fine but are getting old, 2007 and 2008 vintage.  So, in January 
I plan to move everything to two Dell Vostro 470s (2013-2014 vintage) with I 
acquired on eBay for very reasonable prices.  They will have i5 3rd gen 
processors, 8mb of memory, and 1 or 2 terabyte of disk space running Win10 
which I've already loaded using the free upgrade.
If you want optimal performance from Win10, you should upgrade memory to 8mb if 
possible, while 4mb will run good.  A 3.0 ghz processor or close is good 
whether dual core, i3, or i5, or i7.  Again, changing a processor takes about 
20 minutes.  Upgrading memory takes about 5-10 minutes.
If you can, make upgrades to your PC first.  You might also have to go back to 
the PC vendor and get a BIOS upgrade as I did for my Dell 200, but not the Dell 
220.  Then upgrade to Win10.  When it asks for a product key, give it the 
product key for your Win7 and Microsoft will issue you a digital key which 
works just fine.  You can contact me off list if you have any questions.
Good luck and best wishes,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Gross Incompetence. (RANT)

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Remember the simple and factual statement by the little boy in the movie 
Kindergarten Cop.  Boys have a penis and girls have a vagina.  You can want to 
be something else, but what you are is what you are.  Our society is at the 
brink of dissolution.  I hope we can save it.
Best Wishes,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] Cell phones, long post

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Well, I'll add some info too.  I've used ConsumerCellular for a long time 
now and have not been disappointed.  Of my over 50 years dealing with 
businesses, they have by far the best customer service.  I use two older 
iPhones and they work fine on the road.  I use the ATT sims.  My home is in a 
low area so I only get 1 bar at home, but still useable.  I'm adding an outside 
antennae with inside booster to bring the inside signal up to 3-4 bars with my 
goal to drop my two land lines.  I tried WIFI calling via Tmobile, but it was 
terrible so I went back to the ATT sim.  I've ordered a stronger inside 
antennae to mate with the booster which should help even more.
Before CC, I had Verizon and their predecessor for over 10years.  Cost and fees 
finally forced me to change, plus their customer service was never good.
Just some personal info.
Best wishes for a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Who Has Direct HVAC Experience?

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Dan,
One last simple test.  You should have a simple toggle light switch somewhere 
near the furnace/ac.  Turn it off.  Turn the thermostat off and set the temp to 
as low as it will go.  Let this set for a few minutes.  Turn the switch on at 
the furnace/ac.  Reset the thermostat to on and gradually bring the temp back 
to where you want it.  I have a 20 yr. old Armstrong and I've had to do this 
the 2-3 times I've had to replace the thermostat.  Seems taking all the power 
off both the furnace system computer board and the thermostat forces a sort of 
reset of the system and puts everything back in sync.  It's a cheap test.  If 
this doesn't work, I'd suggest a hard start switch on the compressor as they 
get weak over the years and need more electricity to start.
Good luck and best wishes.
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Re: [MBZ] I hate windows

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You can find people who sell a hard drive with Win10 preloaded on eBay for not 
too much money.  Check their reviews as sometimes Win10 is loaded but the 
license number is not valid.  It will work, but constantly remind you to 
activate Windows.  Or you might try some of the parts sellers on eBay and email 
them about a drive with Win10 loaded and activated. 
Best Wishes,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] I hate windows

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It's unfortunate that some of you hate Windows.  I've used it since it was a 
separate app that ran on DOS.  Win 3.1 was deviled by uncontrolled DLL files.  
Win 95 tried to be compatible with everyone.  Win 98 was good.  Win XP was 
really good.  Rarely used Win 2000.  Win 7 was extremely stable.  But I like 
Win 10 best of all.  I get periodic updates that load at night with no issues.  
I run it with Norton antivirus provided to me free by Comcast.  Norton co-exits 
with Windows Defender both running together.  I have never had a problem.  I 
run Win 10 on two Dell Vostro business DTs (a 200 and 220) which I'll be 
converting over to Dell Vostro 470 business DTs.  I don't expect any troubles.  
I don't run any odd software apps so I don't have problems.  Get back to the 
basics and life is simpler. 
Good luck and best wishes,
Roger
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[MBZ] 1980 300SD Drive train vibration

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Thanks to all for their input and suggestions.  More detail:  the rear axles 
and boots look ok, no slack there, the tranny was a used unit purchased in 
Arizona and installed 2 years ago (probably less than 1,000 miles since 
installed) and it's ok except the vac from the IP to the modulator can't be 
adjusted, yea, needed piece is NLA. 
So, can the center support, flex, etc. be easily replaced?  My Indie started 
talking about pulling the drive shaft, cutting off the ujoints, rebalancing the 
drive shaft and the putting everything back...a rather large amount of money 
for a 1980 car considering I've already put around $4k into revitalizing this 
car.
Any additional thoughts anyone?  Just trying to get back to a smooth ride and 
still have money for diesel fuel :-))
Thanks,
Roger
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[MBZ] 1980 300SD Drive train vibration

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Time to consult the brain trust.  I've been getting my 1980 300SD revitalized 
and back into driving condition.  Almost everything is done, except, it still 
has a vibration somewhere in the drive train when accelerating.  It starts at 
around 40mph.  My Indie replaced the rear flex disk which reduced the vibration 
some, but not all.  When you are coasting or take your foot off the 
accelerator, the vibration stops.  This seems to rule out wheel bearings and 
axles, etc.  So, could this be the center support bearings or universal joints 
or what?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Best Wishes,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] Need a Carfax Please

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Kaleb, thanks mucho for the Carfax report.  And others for comments about the 
timing chain.  I'll look deeper.  The car looks great inside and out, but as we 
know appearances can be deceiving.  I need to do a direct contact with the 
seller and look at it in person.
Thanks again to everyone,
Roger
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[MBZ] Need a Carfax Please

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Hi, does anyone have a Carfax account that could run a report for me.  I'm 
interested in a 2008 ML320 with around 84,000 miles.  It's a diesel, pre 
Bluetec.  The vin is 4JGBB22EX8A375449.  Also, recent maintenance included 
replacing the timing chain and tensioner.  What would cause this at such low 
mileage?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Best Wishes,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] Bosch Group 49 Batteries

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Sorry, for the confusion.  With age the little grey cells don't always fire 
correctly.  Pepboys includes free installation with free red/green corrosion 
preventives.  And sorry Kaleb, I haven't been to a WalMart since they started 
putting American workers out of work with Chinese goods.  If you see me go in 
one, call the guys in the white coats as I've gone crazy.  But to each his own.
Best Wishes,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] Bosch Group 49R Batteries

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Yes, they have a terrible website.  It said my local store didn't have this 
battery, but it did.  I just went to the search line on my browser in put in 
the line above.  One of the "deals" was for Pepboys.  I clicked the link and 
got the online special.  It is a group 49 with the POS on the right.  It works 
in both my 116 and 123 cars.  Anyway, if you need it, there it is.  It has a 3 
year warranty, but I've always gotten between 5-8 years with these batteries in 
the 617 diesels.  A difference now and the older batteries is that you can no 
longer add water as there are no plugs to remove to add water.  So, maybe they 
won't last as long as the older version.
Best Wishes,
Roger
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[MBZ] Bosch Group 49R Batteries

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In case anyone needs this battery for an older diesel, Pepboys has a really 
good deal right now.  If you do a web search for this battery and select the 
Pepboys deal, you get the following:  Battery is $179 in store, but $159 on the 
web only.  Then you get a $40.00 instant discount, so it's only $119 plus tax.  
It comes with free installation and no core charge.  I took them my old core 
and picked up the battery this evening which I'll install myself.  So if you 
need this battery, hit the web now.
Good luck and save,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] 123 FB

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Gee guys, if you don't like 123 FB, then simply don't read it.  It does get 
weary reading all the disparaging remarks.  How about some positive remarks for 
issues normally discussed on this list? 
So, to get your minds of 123 FB, which is better, a GL350 or a ML 350?  And are 
the Bluetec diesels dependable?  I'm considering these models, up to 2012-14 as 
beyond that I can't afford, retired and all that.
Thanks,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD

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Just to clarify, the 1980 300SD is a 116 and not a 126.  Although, mine does 
have 126 front brakes.  It was made towards the end of the model year and I 
guess they just switched in 126 brake parts.  It fooled my Indies the first 
time they did the front brakes. 
Best Wishes,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD

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Andrew, we've owned this car since about 1996.  It was originally purchased by 
a lady doctor when new and she kept it meaning to give it to one of her 
kids...but they didn't want it.  Anyway, right before we got it from a small 
car lot, she had had it to the local MB dealership in Atlanta for a complete 
service (around $900 in 1996).  We've taken it on numerous trips and my wife 
drove it daily to work for many years.  Now that we are retired, it has been 
sitting mostly for the past several years.  I'm getting ready to reactivate it 
with new brake lines, hoses, belts, valve adjustment just to start.  Later, I 
plan a complete front suspension work, a new AC kit, and new rear axles.  It 
will cost a little, but the car is still great inside (had the leather seats 
and pads replaced after we got it) and the body is solid.  I replaced the 
transmission 2 years ago with one that had 95,000 miles on it.  The engine 
starts quickly and it has great power.  I installed new tires last year.  It's 
a great road trip car and the mileage is good (28-30mpg).  As I tell people, 
it's just getting broke in.  I could see it going to a million.

Thanks for asking and pardon my long reply.

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD

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Thanks for the kind words on my wife's car.  I'm getting ready to do some much 
needed normal maintenance.  And no Andrew, it would take a lot more than $500.  
It only has around 420,000 miles and on dino oil no less.
Thanks again,
Roger
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[MBZ] 1980 300SD

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Hi guys, my wife thought you might enjoy this short video of her 1980 300SD. 

Enjoy,

Roger



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnBWazhKWo=youtu.be 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnBWazhKWo=youtu.be



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Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

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Dan,

   I thought they used to call this Worth astral grey...or am I thinking of 
something else.  The mind wanders and the little grey cells don't like up as 
good as they used to.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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[MBZ] Which ML350 years to consider

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Hi folks,

 Per the boss, yes my wife, I need to replace the 2008 Ford Escape with a 
better riding vehicle.  I'm thinking about an ML350, preferably a diesel, 
Bluetec I guess.  Per my retired wallet purchasing ability, I'm looking at 
between 2008 and 2012.  They don't seem to hold very much resale value here in 
the Atlanta area which would be good for me.  The Buick Enclave holds its value 
better than the ML around Atlanta, not sure why.

 Anyway, any recommendations, models to not considered, problem issues, 
etc. would be greatly appreciated.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Frig keeps tripping the GFCI

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Kaleb, my current Frig needed a compressor replacement after only 6 months.  
The repairman said new Frigs are undersized on the compressors in order to get 
good energy ratings.  He installed a larger/proper compressor and it has been 
working fine for around 8 years now.  Maybe you should get the "lonely 
repairman" to come take a look. 

Just a suggestion.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Frig keeps tripping the GFCI

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It might be the Frig Kaleb.  Several years ago, I had a GFI that would trip 
when the Microwave was on with the coffee pot.  I'd reset it and days later it 
would trip again.  So, I replaced the GFI and the new one tripped as well.  
Some time later I purchased and installed a new counter top microwave.  Problem 
solved as the GFI has not tripped in several years.  So, maybe it's time to 
have someone look at your Frig (icemaker, compressor, defrost coils, etc.).  I 
have several GFIs in my house, all over 20yrs. old and never a problem.

Just some additional info.

Good luck, be safe around electric, and take care,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] ADSIT Redeems Themselves

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Well, I'll give you another data point from years ago.  Back around 2000, I 
needed a glow plug relay for my 1980 300SD.  MB wanted my wallet and first born 
so nothing there.  I tried a used one, but as the SD was still in change, the 
prior years didn't work correctly.  Finally, I found one for the 1980 at ADSIT. 
 The price was more than a used one on eBay, but far less than a new MB unit.  
I got it, installed it and almost 20 years later it's still on the car working 
properly.  I had no problems with ADSIT, a smooth transaction.  There's an old 
expression, "you'll get more with an ounce of sugar than a pound of salt".  
Business is business, try the sugar first.

Best wishes,

Roger

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[MBZ] MB 420sel body

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Ok, here's something for one of you bottom feeders on the list.  Body looks 
good, but that's all you get, but if that's all you need, then it's free.


https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/zip/d/atlanta-scrap-metal-junk-car-mercedes/6959112559.html


Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

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Hey guys, well, I have an iphone 5SE.  I purchased it a couple of years ago on 
eBay.  The seller is a company in Florida that refurbs and sells iphones.  I 
got it for under $100.  I have it tethered to my ipad 4, setup for WIFI calling 
when I'm home, Bluetooth connection to a keyboard, etc.  I have updated to the 
latest IOS and have never had a problem.  If your iphone sucks because of 
iCloud, call Apple support and discuss the issue, I have and found them 
pleasantly helpful.  I also use Consumer Cellular and they are the ultimate in 
customer service.

Just some more info.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] W123 FB Idiot(s)

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Well, I'll add a little of what I know second hand from my BIL who drove diesel 
trucks as a business for over 40 years, now retired.  In the early days, you 
could slightly increase the fuel and get more power, plus more smoke.  But, the 
new trucks are computer controlled, so the computer regulates everything to 
either increase power when needed or to increase fuel economy when more power 
is not needed.  Refer to articles about long haul trucks that go over 
mountainous areas and then flat lands.  They can be sent computer signals to 
regulate how the truck will react as needed based upon the terrain.

Now, I'm not a truck driver, just passing on what I've been told and what I've 
read.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] W123 FB Idiot

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Gee, would you guys consider getting off W123 FB?  It doesn't seem like you are 
helping.  Also, if people could clip their replies, it would save my mouse a 
lot of scrolling. 

Thanks guys, now if anyone else knows anything about Smartcar tranny problems, 
I would sincerely appreciate a reply, off list if you'd like.

Best wishes,

Roger

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[MBZ] Smart Car

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Hi, my BIL has acquired a Smart car and is having issues with the transmission. 
 If anyone on the list has any experience, would you please contact me. 

Thanks,

Roger

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[MBZ] LONG emails

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So, could you guys please clip your emails, toenails, or something?  These long 
repetition filled emails take up space and cause me to abuse my mouse having to 
scroll so much to get past them.  

Just a polite request.  Toenail clipping is at your discretion.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] ebay

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In Georgia, yet another greedy politician state, they passed a law last year 
that if you have more than $500,000 per year in internet sales, you are 
required to collect tax on those sales.  It's just more greedy political stuff. 
 We need to all stop carping about this stuff and start voting these greedy 
joke politicians out of office, regardless of which party they represent.  None 
of them care about you and me, the taxpayers, it's become about getting more 
money to spend at the federal, state, and local levels.  Most of these tax 
dollars do little good for the average taxpayer.  Again, stop carping and VOTE.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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[MBZ] Anyone Going to the PnP?

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Dan,

 I don't know if this will help in your situation but...   Years ago I 
needed a part (spring) for the mirror on my 1980 300SD.  After inquiring for 
help on the "other list", Stu said it's a kit.  I went to the Atlanta MB 
dealership and was told the same.  However, my Indie found the part number for 
me in his old parts catalogue.  I went to the MB dealership again and asked the 
parts guy to order that part for me.  It took 2 weeks from Germany, but in 
total was only a fraction of the cost of the whole kit for my driver side 
mirror.  If you can get the part number, you might give it a try.

Just a suggestion to help.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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[MBZ] OT: Washington OKs underage students to sample wine in class.

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Well, look on the bright side.  When that 24 square mile chunk of the Hawaiian 
island breaks off, WA, OR, CA and a lot of other places will no longer exist.  
So wine tasting will no longer matter.  This is just another chisel mark on the 
rock we call our society and culture. 

Best wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Vacuum leak no booster no shut off.

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If the vac pump had gone bad, you would have shut off, brake booster problem, 
and tranny shift problem.  I've had this before on a 617.  It sounds like you 
also may have moved the little linkage pieces on the shut off valve on top of 
the IP as well as knocked off the vac line.  Those vac lines are a PITA, 
especially compared to the 300SD where the lines are not in the way.  I'm 
always extremely careful when I change the oil filter on my 83 300D because of 
the tight vac line clearance.

Hope this helps.

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] How the heck do you remove quick connect fuel fittings

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If you check Youtube, you'll see how to make this tool from a marker pen cap.  
It will work also for a lot less money.

Enjoy,

Roger

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[MBZ] 1980 300SD W116

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Dan,

   I would go for it before someone else.  The car looks great.  The servo 
is a 1/2 hour replacement.  If the fan is bad, it's an easy replacement via the 
glove box.  Check the front suspension and the rear axles.  It might need a 
valve adjustment.  If the power is low, it's probably filters or the overboost 
switch gets carboned up.  My 80 300SD has over 425,000 miles and will still 
crank up and run although it spends most of its time in the garage these days.  
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to email me.

Good luck and best wishes,

Roger

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[MBZ] A prime example of how the media takes a story and runs with it, can?t believe this has made it to BBC

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Kaleb,

  It seems amazing that the honest, elected officials would be dishonest.  
You should move to Georgia.  Our elected officials are honestno wait, every 
mayor Atlanta has had for the past 3-4 decades has been a crook.  We had the 
teacher test changing scandal.  Well, maybe Georgia elected officials aren't 
that honest.  Anyway, ask the FBI to investigate the sheriff, that is if they 
have time away from framing national figures.

  Hopefully, when the magnetic poles shift it will take away some unwanted 
elected officials.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Bundt Wheels

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Sorry Bob and Dwight, but Bundt's are the best.  No paint to peel off, not as 
heavy as the steel wheels behind the old fashioned hubcaps, and easier to clean 
than the many small hole later wheels.  We all have our preferences.  So why 
try to run down what someone else likes.  I wouldn't say bad things about your 
hubcap love except you guys expressed dislike for my bundt's which I have on 
two cars and have had for over 20 years.  In the future maybe we should all 
keep our dislikes to ourselves, except for parts, etc.  Appearance items are a 
matter of personal taste and should be left at that.  Just my opinion, others 
may vary.

Best wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: Conan O'Brien at Dartmouth

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Kaleb,

 Are you building a wall around your property to keep Dan out?  Dan says 
he's the list Mom, but that brings up all sorts of gender questions, especially 
since he "Martha's" a lot.  I wish I had a wall...one of my neighbors is a gun 
nut and just likes to disturb everyone with too many continuous hours of target 
shooting.  Hope everyone has a good, calm weekend now that the Superbowl is 
over.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes Benz 300SD

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Kaleb,

  I'm not sure what has been swapped.  Those seats look exactly like the 
ones in my 1980 300SD and they are original and they are leather.  Of course, 
my wife paid around $3K to replace the leather and pads front and rear less 
than a year after we purchased the car.  Yes, it's her car so I had to grin and 
bare it.  The seats are still great tho' after over 20 years.  I never cared 
for the wider, flatter 126 seats that always seemed to split at the seams.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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[MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes Benz 300SD

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Bob,

  I have a 1980 300SD (over 420,00 miles) and a 1983 300D (over 360,000 
miles), both with the 617 engines.  The good about this car is it must be an 
early 1981 as it has the 116 seats and not the 126 zippers, waiting to rip 
apart seats.  As to the wheels, I've used the allows for over 20 years with no 
problems.  Personally don't like the chrome as they gave these models a pimp 
mobile look.  If it starts good, shifts good, etc., then I'd look under the 
plastic sides for any hidden rust and look at the suspension for any excess 
wear etc.  If all is ok, the AC should be an easy fix.  Adjust the valves first.

 As to the price, it should be around $2800-3200 for this condition, after 
all it's still a very old car with old parts.  However, at that mileage, you've 
got years left on that engine.  I realize there are those on this list that 
want a bottom feeder price for anything they buy.  Just look close and pay 
accordingly.  I probably paid more for both of my cars than this list would 
have approved.  But, I've gotten over 20 years each with nothing beyond the 
normal items as they've aged, and I've immensely enjoyed both cars and still do.

So, good luck and best wishes.  Most of all look close and make your own 
decisions.

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 158, Issue 146

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Craig,
Sears Group 49 Diehard Gold designed for colder climates:
https://www.sears.com/diehard-gold-automotive-battery-group-size-49-price/p-02850849000P?plpSellerId=Sears=1=1=G1

 Sold by Sears

Regular price $190.99
Your savings - $47.75
$143.24
Hot Buy
Get $11.43 CASHBACK in points 
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Roger
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> and,
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> AutoCraft Gold Battery, Group Size H8, 900 CCA
> 3 YR FREE REPLACEMENT
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> Regular Price
> $159.99
> Core charge (refundable)
> +$22.00
> Regular Price Plus Core
> $181.99
> 
> Costco doesn't carry batteries for a '93 E300D/2.5 Turbo.
> 
> Wal-Mart has:
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> Everstart MAXX MAXX-H8
> 
> 5 Year Warranty Program (3 Years Free Replacement + 2 Years Prorated)
> 900 CCA (Cold Cranking Amps)
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> $123.13? View Online
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> Youse guys keep talking about discount codes for Advance Auto Parts.
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> How does one get those?
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[MBZ] Buying a battery for a diesel

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Craig,

  Try Sears.  They have some good prices and they are trying hard to stay 
alive.  They give you dollars back to use on future purchases, etc.  You might 
help keep an American icon alive.  I purchased 3 sets of tires last year, good 
prices and I'm still very satisfied with the tires for wear, ride, etc.  Just a 
suggestion.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] "WHY" classic Mercedes are worth saving- the bleak future of driving

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I totally agree about throw away cars, etc.  I'm not referring to MBs, but my 
2008 Ford Escape with the V6 engine is really expensive to repair (at least for 
old SS guys like me).  Pep Boys gave me a "deal" to do the tuneup (just plugs), 
valve cover gaskets, and PC valve.  I paid almost $900, but I believe that Ford 
would have charged closer to $1200-1500 for this work.  Pep Boys wanted over 
$100 each for the coil packs.  I had them done at a small garage up in S. Ohio 
for less than $50 each and about $100 for labor.  Unfortunately, had to go 
North as my wife's Mother passed on the 20th which was a real downer for 
Christmas.  Anyway, the Escape is running pretty good now, but every repair is 
close to a scrap it and get something else.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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[MBZ] Oil Prices

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Sorry guys, I correct myself (old age thing).  I use 5w20 full synthetic Mobil 
1 in the Atlanta area.  I use it because Ford stamped it in big yellow numbers 
on the oil cap.  The Ford dealer shop guy once told me the Escape V6 needed 
really thin oil for the ultra small oil ports/paths within the block.  But the 
price is still the same at Dollar General and mcparts.  I get Pep Boys to 
change oil for me.  They send a coupon, charge a few bucks more for the extra 
quart, but in total I'm better off.  I don't have a "garage" for car work, they 
check my tires and rotate and check all the other fluids, etc.  So, I end up 
paying them little more than the oil and filter price for their time and labor. 
 Works for me anyway. 

Best Wishes,

Roger

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[MBZ] Oil Prices

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Well, I throw this out so you guys can stop arguing about energy prices, etc. 
etc.  Here in the Atlanta area, my mcparts stores charge $9.99 for a quart of 
Mobil 1 Synthetic 0W20 which I use in my Ford Escape.  I was in my local Dollar 
General store and noticed that they have the same oil for $5.95 a quart.  Wow, 
I had seen it at Home Depot for $7.95 a quart, but never thought Dollar General 
would undercut them all by that much. 

What are you guys paying?  And please don't start arguing about which oil to 
use :-)))

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Value of Old Things

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Well, once again, I guess we'll just agree to disagree.  My point has always 
been that younger people don't appreciate the  value and craftsmanship of old 
things.  Now they can replicate the process, etc., but it won't be an old 
thing, just their reproduction.  So...let's move on.  I will go back to not 
replying to any of you as we apparently just don't understand each other.  I 
have two old MBs, to heck with all the other topics...I'll just tune them out.

Best wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Value of Old Things

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Well, I guess we are on different topics/issues/views.  I'm talking antiques 
and appreciation for the "value of old things".  I'm not talking about 
artsy/craftsy things that are new, regardless of the techniques used to create 
them.  I'm glad there is an arts and crafts movement and young people are 
involved.  But I'm in to antiques, not arts and crafts.  As always, I'm not 
pushing an argument, just stating my view, which may or may not agree with 
yours. 

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Value of Old Things

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So Curt, are 3 people all you can find as examples?  Yes, there are a few 
younger folks that still appreciate the "old things", but I see everyday the 
many, many, many younger folks that do not.  If more of them did, my sales 
would be really good, but they aren't.  And prices are down on eBay, at antique 
stores, auctions, etc.  Young folks want disposable.  They don't want to polish 
silver, hand wash glasses, etc.  Now, they'll take care of that phone or 
computer, but heck with the really valuable stuff.  Anyway, keep looking, I 
hope you find more to count.

Best wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill

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Yes, I definitely agree about the horn.  I use it when necessary.  Where I grew 
up there weren't many deer, but you had to worry more about a cow out of 
pasture or a horse on the lose, etc.  I still rely more on my vision and 
constant search of both roadsides.  It has served me well so far and I only 
hope it continues.

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Roger

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[MBZ] Value of Old Things

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Dan,

  What you mentioned about furniture and other old things is sadly true.  
Young people today want disposable dinnerware, less furniture, and lack any 
idea of quality and the craftsmanship it takes to create quality.  Our sales 
have declined over the last few years.  We never really dealt in furniture, 
especially big stuff.  We see it at auctions and estate sales and it goes for 
really cheap prices...sad to see.  Young folks display big TVs, electronic 
gizmos, etc. etc. , things that wear out and are disposable.  They use cheap 
dinnerware and flatware and glasses, none of which need a nice hutch, 
sideboard, or cabinet to display.  Holding a fine piece of silver flatware in 
your hand and comparing it to the cheap Wal-Mart offerings is amazing.  I help 
my wife polish silverware when we get new pieces to keep or to sell.  It's 
pleasing to see the craftsmanship that went into things made in the 1700s, 
1800s, and early 1900s.  The feel is just amazing. 

 So, if you have some old nice items, value them, use them, and display 
them.  Let them bring you joy, especially at the holidays.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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[MBZ] The pnp 116.

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Kaleb,

 If you go back, could you check the condition of the rear axles, boots, 
etc.?  My 80 300SD will need those before I start using it again.  The last 
time I could find someone selling them, they wanted a small fortune and then 
I'd still have to pay my Indie to install them.

Thanks,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)

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Sorry Mitch, but I didn't tag you to this thread.  I merely started it as 
somewhat sad and humorous regarding some of the topics that arise.  Similar to 
the other list where they get off on topics like wine tasting, cheese 
favorites, etc. Sometimes you think you are on one of the cooking networks.  I 
realize we are all getting older so there isn't a lot of MB work, etc. to 
discuss.  As to me, my 80 and 83 and currently sitting for awhile.  I will 
probably sell the 83 300D and at some point have some repairs made to the 80 
300SD and put it back on the road. 

As to deer, just a suggestion.  I grew up and learned to drive "up North" and 
currently drive in the South.  When learning up North, the main issue was to 
constantly scan the sides of the road, peripheral vision is a real benefit.  
Now I continue to do the same in the South.  I've been lucky having driven for 
over 50 years and never hit a deer.  I just hope to stay lucky.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)

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This is a sad Mercedes day.  Our list has declined down to "compost from road 
kill).  Oh the humanity  I can remember a time when...

Best Wishes and Merry Christmas to all

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK this is about the funniest thing you will read all day

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Well, all I know is what the local Atlanta station reported.  The kits have 
come under criticism in other states for their lack of reliability.  And from 
the TV clip from the officer's camera, the candy was pink, not blue.  But then 
my eyes may not be what they used to be.  My point is that if you intend to put 
someone in jail, the police should be at least close to 100% certain they have 
the right person.  Otherwise, let them go.  This woman couldn't afford the bail 
so she stayed in jail.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK this is about the funniest thing you will read all day

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Now the old fellow may be guilty, but consider this.  In Georgia, a woman is 
suing one of the counties and the company that makes the field drug test kit.  
She spent two months in jail before the state crime lab confirmed what she told 
the police officers...it was cotton candy.  Hope she uses the tax money wisely 
and hopefully the company that makes the test kits will go out of business.  If 
it happened to this woman, it could happen to anyone.  Weird, weird, world.

Good luck to all and Merry Christmas,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** McDonald's

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Yes, the old days.  I grew up the Huntington area of southern WV.  The first 
McD anywhere around was there.  You walked up to the outside window to order.  
There was no where to sit so you ate in your car.  The restrooms were on the 
outside.  And they did have two arches, but I like to joke that I've eaten 
there since only one arch.  It was a great place to take a date after a movie.  
Hamburger, fries, and a soft drink were very affordable for a high school kid.  

 Anyway, McD been good to me.  I hope each of you have a fond memory of 
somewhere you ate when young.

Best wishes and Happy Holidays,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** McDonald's

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Gee guys, me thinks you are become a little snobbish about things...picking on 
McD now.  I've eaten at McD since they only had one arch and only walk up 
service.  Maybe my palate is a little more flexible or maybe it hasn't been 
tainted by "fine dining".  I know we all like what we like, but it seems this 
is another low point to be picking on McD.  Just my opinion as usual, your 
tastes are yours.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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[MBZ] Stupid ask

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Clay,

  Sorry that I don't remember, but where are you located.  I'm in the 
Atlanta, Ga. area.

Roger

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[MBZ] Quote without comment

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I sincerely hope most of this is wrong and will soon dissolve into its own 
uncertainty.  I was in the computer world in the early 80's and saw all the 
predictions and forecasts as to how computers would replace everything we know 
and "help us" to do everything.  Artificial intelligence would be our savior.  
All of this has not made us a better society, but rather, has contributed to 
our social demise.  Computers will never replace the human brain.  Yes, they 
can be faster, but faster is not always better.  This is only my opinion and 
views.  But I hope we can save ourselves before computers destroy our future.  
Remember, the original intent of computers was to do repetitive tasks faster 
and with less error and to access information faster than humans.  Personally, 
I don't think they will ever be able to "replace" the human brain or human 
memory.

I wish you all a safe and Happy Holidays,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] OT - another computer question

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Dan,

  I've used PC Mover to move from one PC/OS to another several times 
quickly and with no problems.  I've also used the clone software which came 
with an SSD to move a regular HD to a SSD with no problems.  The software will 
ask how you want to handle drive size mismatches.  Windows is not Mac, but for 
us lifetime Windows users, we are glad it's not.  I run Win10 on two 10+ year 
old Dells with no problems, one of which was moved from a regular to an SSD 
drive.  And if I had to work with a Mac, I'd probably have some of the same 
dislikes and problems. 

  To all, Happy Holidays, and good luck with whatever OS you use.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] If not the SD....

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Well, for my .02, first rent the type of vehicle you want and take it on a 
drive of over 2-3 hours.  Then see how your butt and back and legs feel.  I 
have a 2008 Ford Escape that is a good little SUV, but the seats suck big time. 
 Great for short trips, but long trips wear you out.  If the vehicle you want 
is built on a truck frame, run away.  And look for a vehicle with seats that 
have padding at least 6 inches and good lumbar support.  Then you will be 
happy.  You can fix the mechanicals, but you can't replace bad seats without 
ruining the interior appearance.  My no joy is that Ford did not offer a better 
seat for the 2008 Escape.

Again, just some extra thoughts.

Good luck and best wishes,

Roger

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[MBZ] A scholar from Arkansas, no not the Clintons

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Kaleb,

  I think this could be a Clinton, Bill.  Isn't this writing style 
indicative of the final stages of Viagra abuse?  At least it's colorful.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Septic problem

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Scott,

   I just use the powder packs from Home Depot, probably available 
elsewhere.  The material is inside plastic that dissolves in the commode 
releasing the enzyme powder which you then flush.  Then I just buy whatever 
root killer is currently available.  I agree about the bleach and other similar 
items as they tend to kill the bacteria you need in the septic tank to dissolve 
the "stuff".  I clean plates in the trash and the only food particles go out 
through the dishwasher which is small enough to increase the bacteria, but not 
big enough to plug up the drain field.

 As to redoing the drain field, you can add a large dry well as I've had to 
do many years ago and it solved a bad problem on a 30 year old drain field. 

Good luck Kaleb,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Septic problem

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Kaleb,

 Stop pouring old motor oil down the drain, it's not good for the septic 
:-)))  Anyway, I've had my septic tank/field in place for 19+ years and never 
pumped the tank.  I do put enzymes down it 3 times a year and root killer at 
least every 2 years.  It seems to work fine so far.  I do have a clean out cap 
outside should I need it.  I've never had a problem so far.  Rules:  no grease 
or grease like substances down the kitchen drain, get and use the enzyme 
powder, and use root killer.  I do this always and I've never had a problem.  
Maybe I'm lucky or maybe this works.

Hope you solve your problem and good luck.

Roger

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[MBZ] Ohio Blue Tip

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Curley,

  Do you have any small lesser name grocery stores in your area?  Not a 
Kroger, Publix, or other big name.  I have a Quality Foods here (you might have 
a Food Lion, Piggley Wiggley, etc.).  These stores still carry "country items" 
like matches, canning jars, etc.  This is where I get my matches and they seem 
to be ok.  Just a suggestion.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] Top 10 MB myths

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Wow, sounds like this guy definitely has anger management issues, especially 
regarding MB.  If he's from AU, then I understand as it's still populated by 
the descendants of criminals from England, who hate Germans.  Some of the 
sarcasm was slightly humorous, but otherwise, it seems one more of today's 
attempts to earn money on the web. 

Best wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] OT: flickering house lights

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Mitch,

   Thank you for finally taking the prudent and safe approach.  The utility 
should NOT charge you as they are obligated, just as the gas and water, to 
insure that they are providing safe service to your house (and even inside in 
case of the gas utility).  If they can't find fault outside, then have an 
electrician standing by to check inside as it might be something that will 
require coordination between the utility and an electrician to fix.  This will 
save time and mainly it will "keep you safe from harm".  I've been nipped by 
220v before so I have a strong and healthy respect for electricity. 

Good luck and best wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] OT: flickering house lights

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Rick,

  I hate to recommend the obvious, but have the power company come and 
confirm their wiring before you tear up your electrical panel.  Years ago, I 
lived in a subdivision with underground utilities.  In grading the lot next 
door, the developer pierced the line into my house.  I lost one of the phases 
which took out half of my circuits and damaged my furnace.  The developer paid 
for the furnace repair and the power company came and replaced the underground 
line.  Since you've said you have old wiring on the pole into your house, I'd 
suggest you get the power company to look.  After all, they don't want a 
problem that could damage your house either.  Or, do the "manly" thing and call 
an electrician.  I know that wouldn't sit well with all the testosterone on 
this list, but it's the prudent and safer thing to do.

Good luck and best wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] More hookers and blow

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I'm curious as to when you guys are going to publish your "Arm Chair Price 
Guide to Old Mercedes".  You could compete with the other price guides that 
aren't necessarily accurate.  Used cars, like anything vintage/antique are 
worth what a buyer will pay because they want the item and have the funds...not 
what others think it's worth.  I know you guys are lonesome and in some cases 
just having fun, but it does get tiresome at times.  Anyway, if someone starts 
the guide, I'll chip in where I can as cars seem to be worth somewhat more in 
the Atlanta area than other areas.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Your tax dollars at work!

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And in the "old days" this would have won the "Golden Fleece Award".  I think 
now it's just finding ways to send money back to your districts in order to 
keep your congressional job.  Grants and other wastes of tax dollars should be 
eliminated.  I always love to hear some crazy speaker talking about getting 
state or federal dollars for something, as though the state and fed have money 
earning jobs.  It continues to be a sad world we've all allowed to develop.

Best wishes, with hopes for a better future,

Roger

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[MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

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Well, this is the perfect solution for the USA and maybe the world.  Get all 
the plastic surgeons to save all the fat they suck out of humans trying to make 
them "pretty".  Use that fat to make biodiesel.  The fat would be free and no 
people or animals would need to be killed to provide it.  If you've been to any 
mall or restaurant lately, you've seen a lot of fat people waddling around.  
Let's see if we can use all that fat to gain our energy independence.  We could 
probably use it to generate electricity as well, save the birds, roof tops, 
etc.  This sounds like a real winning solution.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

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Clay,

 Maybe these were islands and islands sometimes sink over time, plate 
shifts, earth quakes, etc.  I believe that the Earth is constantly changing and 
some of those changes result in what is sometimes deemed as climate change.  
Part of my property used to be under several feet of water.  It had nothing to 
do with climate change, but rather with beaver dams.  So called scientists 
quite often don't look deep enough at the root cause of issues.  But I firmly 
believe that if the Earth wants to change some of its climate, then we little 
pee ant humans aren't going to stop it.  However, we can stop arguing and start 
looking at how to make the best of these changes without the need for "grant 
money".

 Just my .02.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] OT (for Rich): Ongoing nuke soap opera in SC

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Gee, SC has a coast.  Why don't they go out into the water and install the wave 
boards that generate electricity from the oceans waves.  No nukes, coal, petro, 
ruined rivers, etc.  Haven't seen a cost breakdown on the wave board system, 
but it seems good as the waves work whether the Sun is shining or not.  Would 
probably need some way to drop them and lock them when a Hurricane comes 
through.  Just a thought...

Best Wishes,

Roger

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