Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
Curt Raymond wrote: *SIGH* The coolant is there for a reason you take it away and bad things happen. Try overheating your Honda, thats likely got an all aluminum ENGINE. You'll not only crack the head but ruin the block. You want things light you use aluminum. You want heavier duty you pay by burning more fuel. Its a pretty simple exchange in most cases. My '85 190D 2.2l has the same 72hp that my '83 240D had. The 190D weighs like 600# less and it shows in top speed, acceleration and fuel economy... The OM601 engine in your 190D is NOT remotely the same OM616 engine in a 240D. The former is about 20% more efficient, gets almost 25% better economy, starts without the block heater at 10-20 colder temperatures. I expect the only common parts for the two engines are the injectors, glow lugs and radiator cap! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
You can usually find a shop that will use your new parts - very few will install used parts - but if you ask them to buy the needed parts from Rusty you should get Rustys price. Rusty lists your alternator for $178 (free shipping). Sounds like your indie is raping you. I'd go someplace else. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.31/1031 - Release Date: 9/26/2007 12:12 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can usually find a shop that will use your new parts - very few will install used parts - but if you ask them to buy the needed parts from Rusty you should get Rustys price. I suppose there are always exceptions but I've never found a shop that would pass through the cost of parts without a markup. If they would even consider ordering from a supplier other than the one(s) they normally use. Rusty lists your alternator for $178 (free shipping). Sounds like your indie is raping you. Parts markup (within reason) is not rape is part of the business model of a shop. If they did not mark up parts they would have to charge more for labor. I'm not excusing anyone who's abusing his customers, but even completely ethical shops mark up the parts costs. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
I agree. You need to remember that the shop has to warranty to some extent to keep you as a customer. They check the vehicle, order the parts, install them etc. If there is a problem, they have to check the vehicle, get the part replaced by the supplier, and re-install. No profit in that and it does happen. They do get some dud parts. Like everyone else, they need to make a fair living. Some may gouge and some may work for less than they are truly worth. The view on that is rather subjective and one must decide for themselves whether they are being treated fairly. I am self employed and I don't know as though I want to be known as the cheapest in town. I am not in the sort of position to make myself the most expensive in town and I doubt that it would do me much good to double my prices. However, as I said, I don't know as though I would want my clients to go around telling their friends to come to me only because I am really cheap. That sort of thing tends to attract people who expect an awful lot for very little. I am happier doing work for people who just want a reasonable job done for a reasonable price. I don't claim to be the absolute best but I try to provide value for the money. However, I also admit that is somewhat subjective from my side of the table too and I am sure there are those who feel overcharged on occasion. Hard to please everyone. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can usually find a shop that will use your new parts - very few will install used parts - but if you ask them to buy the needed parts from Rusty you should get Rustys price. I suppose there are always exceptions but I've never found a shop that would pass through the cost of parts without a markup. If they would even consider ordering from a supplier other than the one(s) they normally use. Rusty lists your alternator for $178 (free shipping). Sounds like your indie is raping you. Parts markup (within reason) is not rape is part of the business model of a shop. If they did not mark up parts they would have to charge more for labor. I'm not excusing anyone who's abusing his customers, but even completely ethical shops mark up the parts costs. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
As usual I got lazy and didn;t type as much as I should have. When I said raping I was talking about this one instance where the alt was $178 and the shop wanted $578 (or so) - to me that's a bit extreme. Also, I know the shop has to make a profit. No problem there. Also - building in some fat for returns (there are some truely awful customers out there) is necessary. Whenever I get a shop to use my parts I always agree to get any replacement parrts - my time and cost agree to pay the labor again. That's only fair. Don't want anyone to think I believe all/most are dishonest. I've found several shops that will use parts from my suppliers. But I don't make this requet every time I give each shop a lot of business. Even though I don't let shops do lots of jobs, I do pay people to do FE alignments, exh work, AC work and my pickup needs pro servicing - things are either too small for my hands (it's japanese) or its a black box problem. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can usually find a shop that will use your new parts - very few will install used parts - but if you ask them to buy the needed parts from Rusty you should get Rustys price. I suppose there are always exceptions but I've never found a shop that would pass through the cost of parts without a markup. If they would even consider ordering from a supplier other than the one(s) they normally use. Rusty lists your alternator for $178 (free shipping). Sounds like your indie is raping you. Parts markup (within reason) is not rape is part of the business model of a shop. If they did not mark up parts they would have to charge more for labor. I'm not excusing anyone who's abusing his customers, but even completely ethical shops mark up the parts costs. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.32/1032 - Release Date: 9/26/2007 8:20 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Most shops mark up parts 100% that is part of how they make money, and why they often refuse to install parts you provide. Allan Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
Makes me glad I'm working on my own stuff. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09/26/07 01:53 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian Give ya $501.00 Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
About double what Rusty charges for the alternator. Either find another mechanic or rustle up several different sources for the alt, print 'em and take 'em in with you, preferably when he's busy. Tell him you don't mind taking it in the behind but you'd like him to lube you up first. -Curt Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:53:01 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
Where's the nearest MBZ dealer? How much do they want for the parts, and will they let you bring your own as long as they don't have to redo it for free if your parts fail? Any bozo at the dealership should be able to handle these jobs, even if there's no place to plug their computer terminal in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian I can't remember where the alternator was on my 603 300sdl (that's assuming they're similar) but on the tensioner, you should be able to replace it from the top with nothing more than the tools in the trunk. This I learned when the car began to shred its belt about 1/2 mile from the dealer. Considerate old girl, she was. Now- the tensioner on a 103 motor car- a whole different kettle of fish. TOny Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Has he done anything to verify that the head is still OK (leak down test)? If not, I'd be leery of spending $910 on it, to find out that you also need a new head. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Zoikes, I didn't think that running the needle up to about the red mark for a moment or two would put me in that much danger! Good thought though, on the money. I really didn't let it dwell at top temp for more than like a minute or so. Brian On 9/26/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has he done anything to verify that the head is still OK (leak down test)? If not, I'd be leery of spending $910 on it, to find out that you also need a new head. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 9/26/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoikes, I didn't think that running the needle up to about the red mark for a moment or two would put me in that much danger! Good thought though, on the money. I really didn't let it dwell at top temp for more than like a minute or so. A moment or a minute? Big difference! The latter is an eternity when you're talking about overheated aluminum! BTDT with my car. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Get a new mechanic Take the alternator to a rebuild place or just order a NEW one from Rusty for half the rebuild cost. I rebuilt, but should have bought new for cost saving. Did the install my self. No shop labor charge or price gouging. I am sure braindead island has a host of reliable car techs. clay On 26 Sep 2007, at 11:53, Zoltan Finks wrote: How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My shop would not warrantee the part, but did back their labor to install. I just told them I had world pac drop ship to me. They could not compete on cost there, so I happily paid the labor, since I screwed up the work in the first place. clay On 26 Sep 2007, at 11:58, Allan Streib wrote: Most shops mark up parts 100% that is part of how they make money, and why they often refuse to install parts you provide. Allan Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OK Don wrote: Has he done anything to verify that the head is still OK (leak down test)? If not, I'd be leery of spending $910 on it, to find out that you also need a new head. Autozone has radiator pump/gauge pressure testers for loan. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wow. So the thing has an aluminum head? If the stupid thing can't take a minute at 120C or so, then I'm not sure it's such a good car afterall. I mean, sh*%t happens. If my wife had been in the car, it might have gotten driven for miles and miles before she realized anything was wrong. You mean to tell me that it is literally that easy to destroy a Mercedes Benz? What kind of excellent German engineering is this? Brian On 9/26/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/26/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoikes, I didn't think that running the needle up to about the red mark for a moment or two would put me in that much danger! Good thought though, on the money. I really didn't let it dwell at top temp for more than like a minute or so. A moment or a minute? Big difference! The latter is an eternity when you're talking about overheated aluminum! BTDT with my car. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Remember what happens when you overheat the engine: The coolant turns to steam. The steam takes up a LOT more space than the water does. In an earlier post I'd said like 6x I did a little search and apparently it's more like 1500x!!! That much extra pressure has to go somewhere, blowing the headgasket is a really common result. I don't think the head cracks from pressure though, I think the head cracks from the temperature differential through its mass. The hottest part of the head, the combustion chamber, wants to enlarge from the heat of combustion. Thats normally held in check by the coolant which wicks that heat away. Once the coolant is steam the heat concentrates and now the lowest part of the head wants to expand. Unfortunately its connected to the rest of the head which is heating up more slowly and doesn't want to expand or doesn't want to expand as quickly. Thats when you get cracks. Overheating is NEVER good. -Curt Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:43:09 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Zoikes, I didn't think that running the needle up to about the red mark for a moment or two would put me in that much danger! Good thought though, on the money. I really didn't let it dwell at top temp for more than like a minute or so. Brian - Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tell them they are dreaming, those jobs are pretty easy DIY except for rebuilding the alternator. Pull the alternator and take it to a reputable auto sparky for an overhaul, the alternators are nothing out of the ordinary. The thermostat could be about right if the cover needs replacing (MB no longer make the plastic thermostat cover and the metal ones are pricey but a good S/H one should do the job). Anyway ask Rusty what the going rate is for those parts. - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I would just find another mechanic, going back to those thieves will only spell trouble. More than likely they use the cheapest parts they can find and do a crappy job if you start getting smart with them. What I look for in a mechanic is fairness, I am willing to pay good money for a good job. A good mechanic can make car ownership that much more enjoyable and having the ability to take your car in to him/her and say fix it please, without having to go through the how much is this gonna cost dance, is a bonus. - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently Either find another mechanic or rustle up several different sources for the alt, print 'em and take 'em in with you, preferably when he's busy. Tell him you don't mind taking it in the behind but you'd like him to lube you up first. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wow. So the thing has an aluminum head? If the stupid thing can't take a minute at 120C or so, then I'm not sure it's such a good car afterall. That is why we often recommend the more bulletproof 61X iron motors used in the 123 and such. The 60X is a superior motor in everything but tolerance to overheating. You mean to tell me that it is literally that easy to destroy a Mercedes Benz? Or anything else with an aluminum head. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. That sounds a touch high. But all that stuff adds up, it's appalling how much it can total even when you're getting a deal. Learn to drive a wrench! Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? My neighbor certainly does. (Not sure his wife agrees.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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*SIGH* The coolant is there for a reason you take it away and bad things happen. Try overheating your Honda, thats likely got an all aluminum ENGINE. You'll not only crack the head but ruin the block. You want things light you use aluminum. You want heavier duty you pay by burning more fuel. Its a pretty simple exchange in most cases. My '85 190D 2.2l has the same 72hp that my '83 240D had. The 190D weighs like 600# less and it shows in top speed, acceleration and fuel economy... -Curt Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:53:24 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wow. So the thing has an aluminum head? If the stupid thing can't take a minute at 120C or so, then I'm not sure it's such a good car afterall. I mean, sh*%t happens. If my wife had been in the car, it might have gotten driven for miles and miles before she realized anything was wrong. You mean to tell me that it is literally that easy to destroy a Mercedes Benz? What kind of excellent German engineering is this? Brian - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
