Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
GMann Sez: Of all the Mercedes wheels, I find the 15 slot design most pleasing. I like the steel wheels (or better yet, the light alloy wheels like my 240D came with) and the hubcaps. It can be a pain to find a replacement hubcap or repaint the centers, but they are very attractive on 123 and older. Plus they make wonderful ice art when you drive in frizzle or freezing rain. I also like the factory alloy wheels, but of them I like the 15 hole the best. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
My thought also Wilton. I got them as part of a "package buy" and sort of thought about using them.. but it's to much "bling" for the car. They ruin the stately elegance of the Coupe for me. So.. I'll sell the polished set, or bead blast them to take the shine off and powder coat them to proper finish. Might put them to use on the 300 SD, come to think of it.. Of all the Mercedes wheels, I find the 15 slot design most pleasing. The Coupe comes with a full set of Bundt 14" AND late model 5 spoke 16" wheels as part of the "package"... so I'm presently "up to my armpits in wheels". On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:06 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > The polished ones look "pimpy." > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "G Mann via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Cc: "G Mann" > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:31 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs > > > Her actions, by direct and indirect admission, violate secret and above >> security clearance regulations. She seems to fail to believe she will be >> held accountable at this time. That belief does not relieve her of being >> held responsible, it only momentarily delays her ultimate punishment, what >> ever that may be. >> >> Should a real leader take office of POTUS and appoint a real Attorney >> General, her account will be settled in a way that should make an example >> to others for a long time. I don't believe there is a statue of limitation >> on treason, or fraud, or murder. It appears there was an active >> participation in all three of those. >> >> Now... who was it that wanted a supply of "I'm ready for Hillary" bumper >> sticker? >> >> Mercedes question: I now have 2 full sets [5 rims each set] of 15 slot >> Mercedes rims in 15 inch. One set has been polished, one has not. Which >> should I use on my "new CD Coupe" restoration? Or, keep both sets and >> change them as my mood changes? >> >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the weekend. I >>> pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only SECRET not SI/TK) >>> had I done anything remotely close to what she has done -- brought home >>> classified info, emailed info, left info in an unsecured area, copied it >>> to >>> unsecured media -- I would be in some federal prison somewhere, house, >>> cars, bank account, everything would be gone. And yet here we have a >>> person, who could not have been doing the job correctly without the >>> transmission of large amounts of classified info, day in day out, >>> admitting >>> to having broken the law (no matter the parsing of words). It is just >>> plainly apparent that this stuff is some very serious criminal behavior. >>> And it is highly likely that all this information has fallen into the >>> hands >>> of the bad guys, which is treasonous behavior. >>> >>> I can't stand the woman, but none of that behavior has nothing to do with >>> any political view. It is just practical application of the law that >>> applies to anyone with a security clearance and access to classified >>> info. >>> If some low-level staffer in the comms section had been doing this, that >>> person would be bunking with "Chelsea" Manning at Club Fed right now. I >>> can understand the politics involved here, but that woman should be >>> sitting >>> in a prison cell right now. >>> >>> --R >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8/30/15 11:16 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> If anyone other than Hillary had the same history of criminal involvement >>>> in an organized criminal enterprise over the past 40 plus years, all >>>> assets >>>> would be seized and RICO charges would be brought, trial would be held, >>>> and >>>> imprisonment would follow, for the maximum allowed by law. >>>> >>>> Both Bill and Hillary are a text book example of misusing the power of >>>> public office to manipulate, enrich themselves, control, and abuse power >>>> and trust. >>>> >>>> Only laying blame on their personal abuse of office, not any political >>>> party affiliation, and only looking at the facts, not speculation, >>&g
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
So? they can always be painted as original, or painted with paint that is "close enough" to original, depending on Grant's taste and cash roll. I choose the "close enough" route, none of my cars are for show. It sounds like Grant's job may warrant use of OE paint. The polished ones look "pimpy." Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
The polished ones look "pimpy." Wilton - Original Message - From: "G Mann via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "G Mann" Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs Her actions, by direct and indirect admission, violate secret and above security clearance regulations. She seems to fail to believe she will be held accountable at this time. That belief does not relieve her of being held responsible, it only momentarily delays her ultimate punishment, what ever that may be. Should a real leader take office of POTUS and appoint a real Attorney General, her account will be settled in a way that should make an example to others for a long time. I don't believe there is a statue of limitation on treason, or fraud, or murder. It appears there was an active participation in all three of those. Now... who was it that wanted a supply of "I'm ready for Hillary" bumper sticker? Mercedes question: I now have 2 full sets [5 rims each set] of 15 slot Mercedes rims in 15 inch. One set has been polished, one has not. Which should I use on my "new CD Coupe" restoration? Or, keep both sets and change them as my mood changes? On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the weekend. I pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only SECRET not SI/TK) had I done anything remotely close to what she has done -- brought home classified info, emailed info, left info in an unsecured area, copied it to unsecured media -- I would be in some federal prison somewhere, house, cars, bank account, everything would be gone. And yet here we have a person, who could not have been doing the job correctly without the transmission of large amounts of classified info, day in day out, admitting to having broken the law (no matter the parsing of words). It is just plainly apparent that this stuff is some very serious criminal behavior. And it is highly likely that all this information has fallen into the hands of the bad guys, which is treasonous behavior. I can't stand the woman, but none of that behavior has nothing to do with any political view. It is just practical application of the law that applies to anyone with a security clearance and access to classified info. If some low-level staffer in the comms section had been doing this, that person would be bunking with "Chelsea" Manning at Club Fed right now. I can understand the politics involved here, but that woman should be sitting in a prison cell right now. --R On 8/30/15 11:16 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: If anyone other than Hillary had the same history of criminal involvement in an organized criminal enterprise over the past 40 plus years, all assets would be seized and RICO charges would be brought, trial would be held, and imprisonment would follow, for the maximum allowed by law. Both Bill and Hillary are a text book example of misusing the power of public office to manipulate, enrich themselves, control, and abuse power and trust. Only laying blame on their personal abuse of office, not any political party affiliation, and only looking at the facts, not speculation, logical conclusion can be made that ample evidence of a long standing criminal enterprise has been operated by them working in concert with others. Politics be damned, holding the vessel of public office does not give free pass to violate laws. This video is now on youtube, it runs 1:33 and while long, covers some of the back story of the Clintons. It has first party interviews [many] with people who observed illegal activity or participated in illegal activity with or at the direction of Clintons. If you watch it, draw your own conclusions. https://youtu.be/C8B43JOshC4 On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Craig, The last line of the story has the sign owner speculating that Republicans may be stealing the signs. I have my doubts about that. I would consider buying a bumper snicker with his design! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 30, 2015 10:42:28 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the signs because they don't like what they say. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listin
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs NOW RIMS
Yes, 15" Bundt wheels would be "restoration correct look" for the Coupe. However, after 3 months of search.. have not turned up even one, much less a set of 5 [need a matching spare, you know]. So they are as declared " Unobtanium" .. unless I wish to buy new, at quoted price of $389.00 each, plus shipping.. So.. for now, I will use the 15" SEL 15 slot wheels, which look "Mercedes enough" for most. If the restore comes out show quality.. I might spring for the 15" Bundt wheels... although, personally, I prefer the look of the 15 slot wheels. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 15" wheels make all the difference in the world as far as ride and > handling. My LWB W123 had 15" wheels, and it drove very differently than a > W123 with 14" wheels. > > Too bad you don't have a set of 15" bundts. Those things are darned near > unobtanium these days. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 31, 2015, at 1:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Yes.. the wheels are from an 87/88 SEL era Mercedes. > > > > I'm not in love with the polished "bling bling" look, but I did want to > > migrate to 15 inch tires. Selection of 14" tires is getting near > impossible > > to get, but I want to preserve the "Mercedes look" . > > > > I'm actually thinking of bead blasting the polished set and powder > coating > > them back to "original" .. or selling them, perhaps.. On reflection, I > > think I prefer the stock painted look. > > > > Just did a count of Bundt style 14" wheels.. I have 25 of them.. anyone > > need some? > > Also have a set of 4 Centra 15" wheels, with proper hub caps and bolts. > > They have some de- lamination of the crome from the aluminum base of the > > rim.. I think they will likely go to scrap. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Are those the SEL-type wheels? I have a set of those too that came with > >> one of the SDs, one pair has a good set of snow tars mounted. Note they > >> require longer bolts than do the bundts. > >> > >> Polished and shiny look kinda pimp if that is the look you are going > for. > >> Yo G! > >> > >> --R > >> > >> > >> > >>> On 8/31/15 12:31 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > >>> > >>> Mercedes question: I now have 2 full sets [5 rims each set] of 15 slot > >>> Mercedes rims in 15 inch. One set has been polished, one has not. Which > >>> should I use on my "new CD Coupe" restoration? Or, keep both sets and > >>> change them as my mood changes? > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs NOW RIMS
15" wheels make all the difference in the world as far as ride and handling. My LWB W123 had 15" wheels, and it drove very differently than a W123 with 14" wheels. Too bad you don't have a set of 15" bundts. Those things are darned near unobtanium these days. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Aug 31, 2015, at 1:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes.. the wheels are from an 87/88 SEL era Mercedes. > > I'm not in love with the polished "bling bling" look, but I did want to > migrate to 15 inch tires. Selection of 14" tires is getting near impossible > to get, but I want to preserve the "Mercedes look" . > > I'm actually thinking of bead blasting the polished set and powder coating > them back to "original" .. or selling them, perhaps.. On reflection, I > think I prefer the stock painted look. > > Just did a count of Bundt style 14" wheels.. I have 25 of them.. anyone > need some? > Also have a set of 4 Centra 15" wheels, with proper hub caps and bolts. > They have some de- lamination of the crome from the aluminum base of the > rim.. I think they will likely go to scrap. > > > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Are those the SEL-type wheels? I have a set of those too that came with >> one of the SDs, one pair has a good set of snow tars mounted. Note they >> require longer bolts than do the bundts. >> >> Polished and shiny look kinda pimp if that is the look you are going for. >> Yo G! >> >> --R >> >> >> >>> On 8/31/15 12:31 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Mercedes question: I now have 2 full sets [5 rims each set] of 15 slot >>> Mercedes rims in 15 inch. One set has been polished, one has not. Which >>> should I use on my "new CD Coupe" restoration? Or, keep both sets and >>> change them as my mood changes? >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs NOW RIMS
Yes.. the wheels are from an 87/88 SEL era Mercedes. I'm not in love with the polished "bling bling" look, but I did want to migrate to 15 inch tires. Selection of 14" tires is getting near impossible to get, but I want to preserve the "Mercedes look" . I'm actually thinking of bead blasting the polished set and powder coating them back to "original" .. or selling them, perhaps.. On reflection, I think I prefer the stock painted look. Just did a count of Bundt style 14" wheels.. I have 25 of them.. anyone need some? Also have a set of 4 Centra 15" wheels, with proper hub caps and bolts. They have some de- lamination of the crome from the aluminum base of the rim.. I think they will likely go to scrap. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Are those the SEL-type wheels? I have a set of those too that came with > one of the SDs, one pair has a good set of snow tars mounted. Note they > require longer bolts than do the bundts. > > Polished and shiny look kinda pimp if that is the look you are going for. > Yo G! > > --R > > > > On 8/31/15 12:31 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > >> Mercedes question: I now have 2 full sets [5 rims each set] of 15 slot >> Mercedes rims in 15 inch. One set has been polished, one has not. Which >> should I use on my "new CD Coupe" restoration? Or, keep both sets and >> change them as my mood changes? >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs NOW RIMS
Are those the SEL-type wheels? I have a set of those too that came with one of the SDs, one pair has a good set of snow tars mounted. Note they require longer bolts than do the bundts. Polished and shiny look kinda pimp if that is the look you are going for. Yo G! --R On 8/31/15 12:31 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Mercedes question: I now have 2 full sets [5 rims each set] of 15 slot Mercedes rims in 15 inch. One set has been polished, one has not. Which should I use on my "new CD Coupe" restoration? Or, keep both sets and change them as my mood changes? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
Her actions, by direct and indirect admission, violate secret and above security clearance regulations. She seems to fail to believe she will be held accountable at this time. That belief does not relieve her of being held responsible, it only momentarily delays her ultimate punishment, what ever that may be. Should a real leader take office of POTUS and appoint a real Attorney General, her account will be settled in a way that should make an example to others for a long time. I don't believe there is a statue of limitation on treason, or fraud, or murder. It appears there was an active participation in all three of those. Now... who was it that wanted a supply of "I'm ready for Hillary" bumper sticker? Mercedes question: I now have 2 full sets [5 rims each set] of 15 slot Mercedes rims in 15 inch. One set has been polished, one has not. Which should I use on my "new CD Coupe" restoration? Or, keep both sets and change them as my mood changes? On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the weekend. I > pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only SECRET not SI/TK) > had I done anything remotely close to what she has done -- brought home > classified info, emailed info, left info in an unsecured area, copied it to > unsecured media -- I would be in some federal prison somewhere, house, > cars, bank account, everything would be gone. And yet here we have a > person, who could not have been doing the job correctly without the > transmission of large amounts of classified info, day in day out, admitting > to having broken the law (no matter the parsing of words). It is just > plainly apparent that this stuff is some very serious criminal behavior. > And it is highly likely that all this information has fallen into the hands > of the bad guys, which is treasonous behavior. > > I can't stand the woman, but none of that behavior has nothing to do with > any political view. It is just practical application of the law that > applies to anyone with a security clearance and access to classified info. > If some low-level staffer in the comms section had been doing this, that > person would be bunking with "Chelsea" Manning at Club Fed right now. I > can understand the politics involved here, but that woman should be sitting > in a prison cell right now. > > --R > > > > On 8/30/15 11:16 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > >> If anyone other than Hillary had the same history of criminal involvement >> in an organized criminal enterprise over the past 40 plus years, all >> assets >> would be seized and RICO charges would be brought, trial would be held, >> and >> imprisonment would follow, for the maximum allowed by law. >> >> Both Bill and Hillary are a text book example of misusing the power of >> public office to manipulate, enrich themselves, control, and abuse power >> and trust. >> >> Only laying blame on their personal abuse of office, not any political >> party affiliation, and only looking at the facts, not speculation, logical >> conclusion can be made that ample evidence of a long standing criminal >> enterprise has been operated by them working in concert with others. >> >> Politics be damned, holding the vessel of public office does not give free >> pass to violate laws. >> >> This video is now on youtube, it runs 1:33 and while long, covers some of >> the back story of the Clintons. It has first party interviews [many] with >> people who observed illegal activity or participated in illegal activity >> with or at the direction of Clintons. If you watch it, draw your own >> conclusions. >> >> https://youtu.be/C8B43JOshC4 >> >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Craig, >>> >>> The last line of the story has the sign owner speculating that >>> Republicans >>> may be stealing the signs. I have my doubts about that. >>> >>> I would consider buying a bumper snicker with his design! >>> >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> '87 300TD >>> '95 E300 >>> >>> On August 30, 2015 10:42:28 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the signs because they don't like what they say. Craig >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://w
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
The key issue is that the various organs of Justice are dragging their feet and stonewalling actually prosecuting these clear violations of the law, in whatever degree. It is seeming too that these willful violations could have (quite possibly did) led to the death of the Ambassador to Libya and other Americans, and who knows what else, if mishandling or disclosure of classified information regarding their activities and locations allowed it to be in the possession of the bad guys. That rises to a whole new level of criminality. Even if that did not happen, just the dereliction of clear duty with respect to proper handling of classified information is a total disqualification for consideration to any political office, much less the presidency. --R On 8/31/15 11:38 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the weekend. I pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only SECRET not SI/TK) had I done anything remotely close to what she has done -- brought home classified info, emailed info, left info in an unsecured area, copied it to unsecured media -- I would be in some federal prison somewhere, house, cars, bank account, everything would be gone. And yet here we have a person, who could not have been doing the job correctly without the transmission of large amounts of classified info, day in day out, admitting to having broken the law (no matter the parsing of words). It is just plainly apparent that this stuff is some very serious criminal behavior. And it is highly likely that all this information has fallen into the hands of the bad guys, which is treasonous behavior. I can't stand the woman, but none of that behavior has nothing to do with any political view. It is just practical application of the law that applies to anyone with a security clearance and access to classified info. If some low-level staffer in the comms section had been doing this, that person would be bunking with "Chelsea" Manning at Club Fed right now. I can understand the politics involved here, but that woman should be sitting in a prison cell right now. --R Should be swingin from a tree or a yardarm. You mentioned the T word. But the law is fer "little people" not the c lin ton crime machine. That's just how things are done in the South; Doncha know? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the weekend. I pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only SECRET not SI/TK) had I done anything remotely close to what she has done -- brought home classified info, emailed info, left info in an unsecured area, copied it to unsecured media -- I would be in some federal prison somewhere, house, cars, bank account, everything would be gone. And yet here we have a person, who could not have been doing the job correctly without the transmission of large amounts of classified info, day in day out, admitting to having broken the law (no matter the parsing of words). It is just plainly apparent that this stuff is some very serious criminal behavior. And it is highly likely that all this information has fallen into the hands of the bad guys, which is treasonous behavior. I can't stand the woman, but none of that behavior has nothing to do with any political view. It is just practical application of the law that applies to anyone with a security clearance and access to classified info. If some low-level staffer in the comms section had been doing this, that person would be bunking with "Chelsea" Manning at Club Fed right now. I can understand the politics involved here, but that woman should be sitting in a prison cell right now. --R Should be swingin from a tree or a yardarm. You mentioned the T word. But the law is fer "little people" not the c lin ton crime machine. That's just how things are done in the South; Doncha know? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
I would agree on your observations from a functional standpoint, no politics or personalities involved. I would say that in my experience with various factions in our government that I found the State Department often played loose and fast with little regard for the "rules", if there were any. It was almost always a "do whatever it takes and we'll deal with the fallout afterwards" when it was a high visibility or high value asset we were doing the work for. Fortunately, we were not the ones who had to deal with fallout, only being the "fixers" in the situation. That being said, our actions often involved the expenditure of funds that were not always warranted. That is, we got paid to clean up someone else's mess rather than them holding the responsible party responsible. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Aug 31, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the weekend. I > pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only SECRET not SI/TK) had > I done anything remotely close to what she has done -- brought home > classified info, emailed info, left info in an unsecured area, copied it to > unsecured media -- I would be in some federal prison somewhere, house, cars, > bank account, everything would be gone. And yet here we have a person, who > could not have been doing the job correctly without the transmission of large > amounts of classified info, day in day out, admitting to having broken the > law (no matter the parsing of words). It is just plainly apparent that this > stuff is some very serious criminal behavior. And it is highly likely that > all this information has fallen into the hands of the bad guys, which is > treasonous behavior. > > I can't stand the woman, but none of that behavior has nothing to do with any > political view. It is just practical application of the law that applies to > anyone with a security clearance and access to classified info. If some > low-level staffer in the comms section had been doing this, that person would > be bunking with "Chelsea" Manning at Club Fed right now. I can understand > the politics involved here, but that woman should be sitting in a prison cell > right now. > > --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the weekend. I pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only SECRET not SI/TK) had I done anything remotely close to what she has done -- brought home classified info, emailed info, left info in an unsecured area, copied it to unsecured media -- I would be in some federal prison somewhere, house, cars, bank account, everything would be gone. And yet here we have a person, who could not have been doing the job correctly without the transmission of large amounts of classified info, day in day out, admitting to having broken the law (no matter the parsing of words). It is just plainly apparent that this stuff is some very serious criminal behavior. And it is highly likely that all this information has fallen into the hands of the bad guys, which is treasonous behavior. I can't stand the woman, but none of that behavior has nothing to do with any political view. It is just practical application of the law that applies to anyone with a security clearance and access to classified info. If some low-level staffer in the comms section had been doing this, that person would be bunking with "Chelsea" Manning at Club Fed right now. I can understand the politics involved here, but that woman should be sitting in a prison cell right now. --R On 8/30/15 11:16 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: If anyone other than Hillary had the same history of criminal involvement in an organized criminal enterprise over the past 40 plus years, all assets would be seized and RICO charges would be brought, trial would be held, and imprisonment would follow, for the maximum allowed by law. Both Bill and Hillary are a text book example of misusing the power of public office to manipulate, enrich themselves, control, and abuse power and trust. Only laying blame on their personal abuse of office, not any political party affiliation, and only looking at the facts, not speculation, logical conclusion can be made that ample evidence of a long standing criminal enterprise has been operated by them working in concert with others. Politics be damned, holding the vessel of public office does not give free pass to violate laws. This video is now on youtube, it runs 1:33 and while long, covers some of the back story of the Clintons. It has first party interviews [many] with people who observed illegal activity or participated in illegal activity with or at the direction of Clintons. If you watch it, draw your own conclusions. https://youtu.be/C8B43JOshC4 On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Craig, The last line of the story has the sign owner speculating that Republicans may be stealing the signs. I have my doubts about that. I would consider buying a bumper snicker with his design! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 30, 2015 10:42:28 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the signs because they don't like what they say. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
If anyone other than Hillary had the same history of criminal involvement in an organized criminal enterprise over the past 40 plus years, all assets would be seized and RICO charges would be brought, trial would be held, and imprisonment would follow, for the maximum allowed by law. Both Bill and Hillary are a text book example of misusing the power of public office to manipulate, enrich themselves, control, and abuse power and trust. Only laying blame on their personal abuse of office, not any political party affiliation, and only looking at the facts, not speculation, logical conclusion can be made that ample evidence of a long standing criminal enterprise has been operated by them working in concert with others. Politics be damned, holding the vessel of public office does not give free pass to violate laws. This video is now on youtube, it runs 1:33 and while long, covers some of the back story of the Clintons. It has first party interviews [many] with people who observed illegal activity or participated in illegal activity with or at the direction of Clintons. If you watch it, draw your own conclusions. https://youtu.be/C8B43JOshC4 On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Craig, > > The last line of the story has the sign owner speculating that Republicans > may be stealing the signs. I have my doubts about that. > > I would consider buying a bumper snicker with his design! > > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > > On August 30, 2015 10:42:28 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the > >signs because they don't like what they say. > > > > > >Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
I am still waiting for my "No Bush" sign from andrew. That, along with "No pillary or No Clinton" signs, this sign, and Grant's "I'm ready for pillary" hangman sign should make a good business. Craig, The last line of the story has the sign owner speculating that Republicans may be stealing the signs. I have my doubts about that. I would consider buying a bumper snicker with his design! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
Craig, The last line of the story has the sign owner speculating that Republicans may be stealing the signs. I have my doubts about that. I would consider buying a bumper snicker with his design! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 30, 2015 10:42:28 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > >Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the >signs because they don't like what they say. > > >Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 08:42:28 -0600 Craig via Mercedes wrote: > Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the > signs because they don't like what they say. He does say democrats at the beginning, but at the very end he mentions republicans. He could solve that problem by having a bunch of signs made and selling them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 10:33:51 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > This one has made my day! > > http://nypost.com/2015/08/30/hillary-for-prison-signs-keep-getting-stolen-in-the-hamptons/ Your title is confused, Max. It's the democrats who are stealing the signs because they don't like what they say. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs
This one has made my day! http://nypost.com/2015/08/30/hillary-for-prison-signs-keep-getting-stolen-in-the-hamptons/ -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com