Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Actually, there are two Muni employees on board. A gripman and a conductor. You 
need a conductor to handle the fares of people who get on between the ends of 
the lines.

When I lived there a monthly Muni pass was like $25, meaning you could ride 
unlimited times. A single ticket for the touristas was like $3-$4, if I recall. 
I rode the cable cars every chance I got. They’re a great way to get around 
that part of the city, and the gripmen are pretty entertaining.

I got to talk to them on occasion when things were slow, and the stories they 
would tell about the Muni employees that tried to get on as gripmen (they have 
an open recruitment internally twice a year) were pretty funny. Realize that 
these are Muni employees, the same people who drive city busses. According to 
the things I was was told, the washout rate of applicants was pretty high. 
Length of service for gripmen is the highest in any division of the Muni, that 
is, these are guys and gals who have gotten into this division and stayed for 
much of their careers. Lots of physical wear and tear, like torn ligaments, 
rotator cup stuff, etc. It’s very, very physical.

And they get the exact same pay as a bus driver.

-D


> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So they do have an operator on board. I was not sure. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The cable cars can disengage the cable. The cable never stops but the cars 
>> do.
>> 
>> I was on the cable car once when a lady in a Land Rover kept getting in our 
>> lane. The gripman was ringing the bell like crazy, I remember he called out 
>> "You're making my day lady!" Its hard work starting and stopping the machine.
>> Finally she had the ass end of her car in our lane and he just bumped her 
>> out of the way. The cable cars are kind of armored on the corners, probably 
>> for that kind of event.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 10:09:48 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> So one thing I wondered while out here but didn’t encounter. On some of 
>> these streets you are driving over the track for the cable car. What happens 
>> if one is coming at you and you can’t move over?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:07 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, 
>>> one trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of 
>>> streets served as the ground.
>>> Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they 
>>> would pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, 
>>> the boys would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the 
>>> trolley and put the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done 
>>> by a cable that wound up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
>>> Gerry
>>> 
 Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
 They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
 conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
 
 -D
 
 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
> Road.  Guess why.
> 
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>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
>> Penoff via Mercedes
>> 
>> Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
>> 
>> Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
>> providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
>> Europe
>> and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and 
>> powered
>> through the wires.
>> 
>> Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
>> 1950s,
>> and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Yup, the gripman. You should have gone to the museum. Seeing the motors that 
run the cars is pretty cool.
-Curt

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 10:51:28 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 So they do have an operator on board. I was not sure. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> 
> The cable cars can disengage the cable. The cable never stops but the cars do.
> 
> I was on the cable car once when a lady in a Land Rover kept getting in our 
> lane. The gripman was ringing the bell like crazy, I remember he called out 
> "You're making my day lady!" Its hard work starting and stopping the machine.
> Finally she had the ass end of her car in our lane and he just bumped her out 
> of the way. The cable cars are kind of armored on the corners, probably for 
> that kind of event.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 10:09:48 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> So one thing I wondered while out here but didn’t encounter. On some of these 
> streets you are driving over the track for the cable car. What happens if one 
> is coming at you and you can’t move over?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:07 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, 
> > one trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of 
> > streets served as the ground.
> > Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they 
> > would pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, 
> > the boys would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the 
> > trolley and put the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done 
> > by a cable that wound up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
> > Gerry
> > 
> >> Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
> >> They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
> >> conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >> 
>  On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>   wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
> >>> Road.  Guess why.
> >>> 
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>  
>  Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
>  
>  Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
>  providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
>  Europe
>  and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and 
>  powered
>  through the wires.
>  
>  Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
>  1950s,
>  and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
>  
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So they do have an operator on board. I was not sure. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> 
> The cable cars can disengage the cable. The cable never stops but the cars do.
> 
> I was on the cable car once when a lady in a Land Rover kept getting in our 
> lane. The gripman was ringing the bell like crazy, I remember he called out 
> "You're making my day lady!" Its hard work starting and stopping the machine.
> Finally she had the ass end of her car in our lane and he just bumped her out 
> of the way. The cable cars are kind of armored on the corners, probably for 
> that kind of event.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 10:09:48 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> So one thing I wondered while out here but didn’t encounter. On some of these 
> streets you are driving over the track for the cable car. What happens if one 
> is coming at you and you can’t move over?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:07 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, 
> > one trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of 
> > streets served as the ground.
> > Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they 
> > would pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, 
> > the boys would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the 
> > trolley and put the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done 
> > by a cable that wound up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
> > Gerry
> > 
> >> Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
> >> They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
> >> conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >> 
>  On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>   wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
> >>> Road.  Guess why.
> >>> 
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
>  Penoff via Mercedes
>  
>  Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
>  
>  Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
>  providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
>  Europe
>  and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and 
>  powered
>  through the wires.
>  
>  Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
>  1950s,
>  and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
>  
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The cable cars can disengage the cable. The cable never stops but the cars do.
I was on the cable car once when a lady in a Land Rover kept getting in our 
lane. The gripman was ringing the bell like crazy, I remember he called out 
"You're making my day lady!" Its hard work starting and stopping the 
machine.Finally she had the ass end of her car in our lane and he just bumped 
her out of the way. The cable cars are kind of armored on the corners, probably 
for that kind of event.
-Curt

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 10:09:48 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 So one thing I wondered while out here but didn’t encounter. On some of these 
streets you are driving over the track for the cable car. What happens if one 
is coming at you and you can’t move over?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:07 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, 
> one trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of streets 
> served as the ground.
> Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they 
> would pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, 
> the boys would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the 
> trolley and put the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done by 
> a cable that wound up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
> Gerry
> 
>> Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
>> They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
>> conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
>>> Road.  Guess why.
>>> 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
 Penoff via Mercedes
 
 Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
 
 Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
 providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
 Europe
 and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and 
 powered
 through the wires.
 
 Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
 1950s,
 and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Although I'm much too young to have lived in the age of trolleys I have gotten 
to go here: https://trolleymuseum.org/several times. They used to have "Moxie 
Day" and a model train club I was part of would put up a modular model 
railroad. Got to ride the trolleys for free.
-Curt

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 6:18:17 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. They 
referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a conductor for 
some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.

-D


> On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
> Road.  Guess why.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
>> Penoff via Mercedes
>> 
>> Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
>> 
>> Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
>> providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
>> Europe
>> and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and powered
>> through the wires.
>> 
>> Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
>> 1950s,
>> and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I did not. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Either they stop if they can or you get hit. They have accidents with motor 
> vehicles pretty regularly from what I recall.
> 
> Did you ride a cable car? If not, you missed out on a pretty cool experience. 
> Especially if if you did the Powell/Mason line, as it has some seriously 
> steep hills. Riding on the running boards is not for the faint of heart.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:09 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So one thing I wondered while out here but didn’t encounter. On some of 
>> these streets you are driving over the track for the cable car. What happens 
>> if one is coming at you and you can’t move over?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:07 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, 
>>> one trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of 
>>> streets served as the ground.
>>> Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they 
>>> would pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, 
>>> the boys would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the 
>>> trolley and put the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done 
>>> by a cable that wound up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
>>> Gerry
>>> 
 Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
 They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
 conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
 
 -D
 
 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
> Road.  Guess why.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
>> Penoff via Mercedes
>> 
>> Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
>> 
>> Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
>> providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
>> Europe
>> and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and 
>> powered
>> through the wires.
>> 
>> Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
>> 1950s,
>> and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Either they stop if they can or you get hit. They have accidents with motor 
vehicles pretty regularly from what I recall.

Did you ride a cable car? If not, you missed out on a pretty cool experience. 
Especially if if you did the Powell/Mason line, as it has some seriously steep 
hills. Riding on the running boards is not for the faint of heart.

-D

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:09 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So one thing I wondered while out here but didn’t encounter. On some of these 
> streets you are driving over the track for the cable car. What happens if one 
> is coming at you and you can’t move over?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:07 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, 
>> one trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of streets 
>> served as the ground.
>> Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they 
>> would pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, 
>> the boys would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the 
>> trolley and put the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done by 
>> a cable that wound up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
>> Gerry
>> 
>>> Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
>>> They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
>>> conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
> On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
 Road.  Guess why.
 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Penoff via Mercedes
> 
> Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
> 
> Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
> providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
> Europe
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> Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So one thing I wondered while out here but didn’t encounter. On some of these 
streets you are driving over the track for the cable car. What happens if one 
is coming at you and you can’t move over?

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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:07 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, 
> one trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of streets 
> served as the ground.
> Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they 
> would pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, 
> the boys would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the 
> trolley and put the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done by 
> a cable that wound up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
> Gerry
> 
>> Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
>> They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
>> conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
>>> Road.  Guess why.
>>> 
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 Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
 
 Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
 providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
 Europe
 and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and 
 powered
 through the wires.
 
 Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
 1950s,
 and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, one 
trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of streets served 
as the ground.
Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they would 
pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, the boys 
would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the trolley and put 
the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done by a cable that wound 
up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
Gerry

> Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
> They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
> conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
> > Road.  Guess why.
> > 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> >> Penoff via Mercedes
> >> 
> >> Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
> >> 
> >> Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
> >> providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
> >> Europe
> >> and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and 
> >> powered
> >> through the wires.
> >> 
> >> Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
> >> 1950s,
> >> and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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I drove on that street once and walked up it once

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> On Mar 10, 2020, at 6:09 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 21:52:59 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Go see Lombard st, the twistiest road in the USA.
> 
> On our honeymoon in 1975, I drove our '72 220D/8 down Lombard Street.
> 
> We got lots of stares and cheering ...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. They 
referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a conductor for 
some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.

-D


> On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
> Road.  Guess why.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
>> Penoff via Mercedes
>> 
>> Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
>> 
>> Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
>> providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
>> Europe
>> and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and powered
>> through the wires.
>> 
>> Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
>> 1950s,
>> and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 Road.  
Guess why.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Penoff via Mercedes
> 
> Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
> 
> Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
> providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
> Europe
> and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and powered
> through the wires.
> 
> Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 1950s,
> and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

good ol Robert mcnamara. "what's good fer GM is good fer the US."   so 
GM/gummit got Lost angels to abandon the subway, Lektrik trolleys, 
lektrik busses, and spread the curse all over the USA.  Probably every 
major city had Lectric trolleys, trains and busses.   There was a 
Lektrik railway from Ft Dodge to Des moines.  Even small towns of 5000 
or so had lektric trolleys and/or busses.   I remember them well in 
Chitcago, where lektrik trains ran all over too, as well as the busses 
and trolleys.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-8b6uvi18g   The first trolley is from 
Montreal, Que.  and the next, orange, is from St Paul, Mn.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
March 10, 2020 at 4:57 PM
Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.

Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method 
of providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. 
Go to Europe and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re 
electric and powered through the wires.


Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until 
the 1950s, and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was 
a kid.)


-D




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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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Got ya

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> On Mar 10, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 16:00:20 -0700 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Down or up? Up would have been interesting. 
> 
> It is one-way down.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Craig via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 21:52:59 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Go see Lombard st, the twistiest road in the USA.
>>> 
>>> On our honeymoon in 1975, I drove our '72 220D/8 down Lombard Street.
>>> 
>>> We got lots of stares and cheering ...
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 16:00:20 -0700 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Down or up? Up would have been interesting. 

It is one-way down.


Craig

> > On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 21:52:59 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> Go see Lombard st, the twistiest road in the USA.
> > 
> > On our honeymoon in 1975, I drove our '72 220D/8 down Lombard Street.
> > 
> > We got lots of stares and cheering ...

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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I agree. I love spending time in SF. One time i talked,a,cable car operator
to let me  ride back to car barn. How cool.

North End  has,great Italian food.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 6:32 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I hadn't realized where the Tenderloin was until I was looking at the map
> just now, its really not that bad an area. Actually none of San Francisco
> is anywhere I'd consider terribly dangerous. The Haight is a little sketch
> but really not terribly unsafe, pay attention at all times, don't leave
> your car unlocked, normal city precautions...
> -Curt
>
> On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 6:23:53 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  And I had my directions mixed up earlier - the Tenderloin is east of
> Haight Ashbury, not west.
>
> It’s been a few years since I lived there…
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 10, 2020, at 6:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Lombard is almost impassable any more due to all the touristas. The
> commissioners have entertained charging to drive it, closing it, etc., all
> to no avail.
> >
> > What the locals won’t tell you is that a much better drive is Vermont
> Street south of 20th over in Potrero Hill.
> >
> >
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vermont+St,+San+Francisco,+CA/@37.759572,-122.4062146,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x808f7e350f4d604b:0x10bf8371dddf3be8!8m2!3d37.759572!4d-122.4040259
> <
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vermont+St,+San+Francisco,+CA/@37.759572,-122.4062146,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x808f7e350f4d604b:0x10bf8371dddf3be8!8m2!3d37.759572!4d-122.4040259
> >
> >
> > or:
> >
> > https://tinyurl.com/tanj9em 
> >
> > Don’t tell the locals I told you.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Mar 10, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 21:52:59 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Go see Lombard st, the twistiest road in the USA.
> >>
> >> On our honeymoon in 1975, I drove our '72 220D/8 down Lombard Street.
> >>
> >> We got lots of stares and cheering ...
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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Down or up? Up would have been interesting. 

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> On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
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> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 21:52:59 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
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> 
>> Go see Lombard st, the twistiest road in the USA.
> 
> On our honeymoon in 1975, I drove our '72 220D/8 down Lombard Street.
> 
> We got lots of stares and cheering ...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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I took a pic of one as it was going by but didn’t mess with riding one. 

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> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Or the cool old trolleys. We saw them both times we were there but never 
> managed to get to that side of the city to ride them.
> Go see Lombard st, the twistiest road in the USA. IIRC it goes up Russian 
> hill, turn left at the top and again IIRC there are a couple really great ice 
> cream shops on the hill.
> Like Dan mentioned the other day you can walk up Russian hill and get on the 
> cable car faster than you can get on at the bottom. Its a pretty tough walk 
> though, theres a reason they use cable cars. We walked (slowly) up once. 
> About halfway up we were taking a break and watched a motorcycle pull a 
> wheelie up the hill. Pretty insane.
> 
> 
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 4:31:31 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Dang, I forgot about Alcatraz. That’s a great tour, especially the audio 
> tour. They have former inmates who narrate it, makes it really cool.
> 
> You’ll never find parking in SFO. Best to dump the car at a common point and 
> use the cable cars or a cab.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m currently at fisherman’s wharf eating at some seafood place. Just had 
>> shrimp. Not a big clam guy. When out to the end and saw Alcatraz and the 
>> golden gate so I can cross those off. Drove by the Fairmont hotel, always 
>> wanted to see it from the old TV show. I wanted to park and go in but gave 
>> up trying to find somewhere to park. If I would have been thinking I would 
>> have just booked a stay there since the company is paying for it. I might 
>> walk around for a little bit then head back to the hotel.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, I'll concede on that. Had a buddy in San Diego, we went on a camping 
>>> trip near Mono Lake and hot springs that was pretty awesome. I'm focusing 
>>> on SF and LA.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Just certain parts. I’ll take the Sierras and most of northern CA (like 
>>> Redding, Yreka, the northern coast) any time.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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 If possible, I would prefer never to step foot in Calif again. CA sucks.
 
 Greg
 
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 If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. 
 Free needles, just pick them up off the street.
 
 Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering 
 the streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.
 
 -D
 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
>  https://thegrovesf.com/
> In the mission district, near Chinatown. We stayed near there once, the 
> food is good and the decor is cool.
> In Chinatown just pick a place that looks cool, theres loads of good 
> options. You might also try Haight\Ashbury, probably not after dark 
> though, its pretty sketch.
> -Curt
> 
>> On Monday, March 9, 2020, 9:56:48 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
> 
> I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but 
> it’s a work trip. I’m
> Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
> fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so 
> I tend to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places. 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I hadn't realized where the Tenderloin was until I was looking at the map just 
now, its really not that bad an area. Actually none of San Francisco is 
anywhere I'd consider terribly dangerous. The Haight is a little sketch but 
really not terribly unsafe, pay attention at all times, don't leave your car 
unlocked, normal city precautions...
-Curt

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 6:23:53 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 And I had my directions mixed up earlier - the Tenderloin is east of Haight 
Ashbury, not west.

It’s been a few years since I lived there…

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 6:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Lombard is almost impassable any more due to all the touristas. The 
> commissioners have entertained charging to drive it, closing it, etc., all to 
> no avail.
> 
> What the locals won’t tell you is that a much better drive is Vermont Street 
> south of 20th over in Potrero Hill.
> 
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vermont+St,+San+Francisco,+CA/@37.759572,-122.4062146,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x808f7e350f4d604b:0x10bf8371dddf3be8!8m2!3d37.759572!4d-122.4040259
>  
> 
> 
> or:
> 
> https://tinyurl.com/tanj9em 
> 
> Don’t tell the locals I told you.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 21:52:59 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Go see Lombard st, the twistiest road in the USA.
>> 
>> On our honeymoon in 1975, I drove our '72 220D/8 down Lombard Street.
>> 
>> We got lots of stares and cheering ...
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And I had my directions mixed up earlier - the Tenderloin is east of Haight 
Ashbury, not west.

It’s been a few years since I lived there…

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 6:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Lombard is almost impassable any more due to all the touristas. The 
> commissioners have entertained charging to drive it, closing it, etc., all to 
> no avail.
> 
> What the locals won’t tell you is that a much better drive is Vermont Street 
> south of 20th over in Potrero Hill.
> 
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vermont+St,+San+Francisco,+CA/@37.759572,-122.4062146,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x808f7e350f4d604b:0x10bf8371dddf3be8!8m2!3d37.759572!4d-122.4040259
>  
> 
> 
> or:
> 
> https://tinyurl.com/tanj9em 
> 
> Don’t tell the locals I told you.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 21:52:59 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Go see Lombard st, the twistiest road in the USA.
>> 
>> On our honeymoon in 1975, I drove our '72 220D/8 down Lombard Street.
>> 
>> We got lots of stares and cheering ...
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Lombard is almost impassable any more due to all the touristas. The 
commissioners have entertained charging to drive it, closing it, etc., all to 
no avail.

What the locals won’t tell you is that a much better drive is Vermont Street 
south of 20th over in Potrero Hill.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vermont+St,+San+Francisco,+CA/@37.759572,-122.4062146,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x808f7e350f4d604b:0x10bf8371dddf3be8!8m2!3d37.759572!4d-122.4040259
 


or:

https://tinyurl.com/tanj9em 

Don’t tell the locals I told you.

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 21:52:59 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Go see Lombard st, the twistiest road in the USA.
> 
> On our honeymoon in 1975, I drove our '72 220D/8 down Lombard Street.
> 
> We got lots of stares and cheering ...
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I remember them in Brooklyn when I was a kid. I think there might have been 
some trolleys too.

Greg

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Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 2:54 PM
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Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

 Trackless trolleys. They have them in Boston too.
-Curt

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 5:14:22 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 After a left fisherman’s wharf I stumbled across Chinatown. Talk about a 3rd 
world looking area. Lots of orientals running around in masks. Past Chinatown 
toward the highway there was a massive amount of cops surrounding a large group 
of people. No idea what that was all about. They have these city busses running 
all over down there that are hooked up to these wires that run overhead. Really 
looks like a mess. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've stayed there a coupla times years ago, I think that was the place that 
> had a fancy restaurant in it I would brunch at, or maybe it was in a place 
> close by.  Some well-known chef, food was really good but it was a bit 
> spendy.  there were lots of good restaurants there, some outfit had 6 
> restaurants that were sort of a "chain" but they were all different.  I 
> remember going to one place, I think it was called Lulu's or something like 
> that (oh look, it closed 
> https://insidescoopsf.sfgate.com/blog/2017/01/03/restaurant-lulu-closes-without-warning-in-soma/
>  ), had a big wood grill and the seafood was awesome.  Another place was 
> kinda Chinese/Vietnamese that was amazing too.  I think we might have gone to 
> one or two others but my memory was altered...  It was fun there until it 
> turned into a sh*thole, which was starting the last time I was there which 
> was like 21 yr ago, people relieving themselves on the street, it smelled 
> really bad.  I walked to an event one morning and after that just took a taxi 
> the 4 or 5 blocks, it was nasty.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 3/10/20 3:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Drove by the Fairmont hotel, always wanted to see it from the old TV show. I 
>> wanted to park and go in but gave up trying to find somewhere to park. If I 
>> would have been thinking I would have just booked a stay there since the 
>> company is paying for it.
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 21:52:59 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Go see Lombard st, the twistiest road in the USA.

On our honeymoon in 1975, I drove our '72 220D/8 down Lombard Street.

We got lots of stares and cheering ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.

Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of 
providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to Europe 
and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and powered 
through the wires.

Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 1950s, 
and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> After a left fisherman’s wharf I stumbled across Chinatown. Talk about a 3rd 
> world looking area. Lots of orientals running around in masks. Past Chinatown 
> toward the highway there was a massive amount of cops surrounding a large 
> group of people. No idea what that was all about. They have these city busses 
> running all over down there that are hooked up to these wires that run 
> overhead. Really looks like a mess. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I've stayed there a coupla times years ago, I think that was the place that 
>> had a fancy restaurant in it I would brunch at, or maybe it was in a place 
>> close by.  Some well-known chef, food was really good but it was a bit 
>> spendy.  there were lots of good restaurants there, some outfit had 6 
>> restaurants that were sort of a "chain" but they were all different.  I 
>> remember going to one place, I think it was called Lulu's or something like 
>> that (oh look, it closed 
>> https://insidescoopsf.sfgate.com/blog/2017/01/03/restaurant-lulu-closes-without-warning-in-soma/
>>  ), had a big wood grill and the seafood was awesome.  Another place was 
>> kinda Chinese/Vietnamese that was amazing too.  I think we might have gone 
>> to one or two others but my memory was altered...  It was fun there until it 
>> turned into a sh*thole, which was starting the last time I was there which 
>> was like 21 yr ago, people relieving themselves on the street, it smelled 
>> really bad.  I walked to an event one morning and after that just took a 
>> taxi the 4 or 5 blocks, it was nasty.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 3/10/20 3:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Drove by the Fairmont hotel, always wanted to see it from the old TV show. 
>>> I wanted to park and go in but gave up trying to find somewhere to park. If 
>>> I would have been thinking I would have just booked a stay there since the 
>>> company is paying for it.
>> 
>> -- 
>> --FT
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Trackless trolleys. They have them in Boston too.
-Curt

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 5:14:22 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 After a left fisherman’s wharf I stumbled across Chinatown. Talk about a 3rd 
world looking area. Lots of orientals running around in masks. Past Chinatown 
toward the highway there was a massive amount of cops surrounding a large group 
of people. No idea what that was all about. They have these city busses running 
all over down there that are hooked up to these wires that run overhead. Really 
looks like a mess. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've stayed there a coupla times years ago, I think that was the place that 
> had a fancy restaurant in it I would brunch at, or maybe it was in a place 
> close by.  Some well-known chef, food was really good but it was a bit 
> spendy.  there were lots of good restaurants there, some outfit had 6 
> restaurants that were sort of a "chain" but they were all different.  I 
> remember going to one place, I think it was called Lulu's or something like 
> that (oh look, it closed 
> https://insidescoopsf.sfgate.com/blog/2017/01/03/restaurant-lulu-closes-without-warning-in-soma/
>  ), had a big wood grill and the seafood was awesome.  Another place was 
> kinda Chinese/Vietnamese that was amazing too.  I think we might have gone to 
> one or two others but my memory was altered...  It was fun there until it 
> turned into a sh*thole, which was starting the last time I was there which 
> was like 21 yr ago, people relieving themselves on the street, it smelled 
> really bad.  I walked to an event one morning and after that just took a taxi 
> the 4 or 5 blocks, it was nasty.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 3/10/20 3:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Drove by the Fairmont hotel, always wanted to see it from the old TV show. I 
>> wanted to park and go in but gave up trying to find somewhere to park. If I 
>> would have been thinking I would have just booked a stay there since the 
>> company is paying for it.
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Or the cool old trolleys. We saw them both times we were there but never 
managed to get to that side of the city to ride them.
Go see Lombard st, the twistiest road in the USA. IIRC it goes up Russian hill, 
turn left at the top and again IIRC there are a couple really great ice cream 
shops on the hill.
Like Dan mentioned the other day you can walk up Russian hill and get on the 
cable car faster than you can get on at the bottom. Its a pretty tough walk 
though, theres a reason they use cable cars. We walked (slowly) up once. About 
halfway up we were taking a break and watched a motorcycle pull a wheelie up 
the hill. Pretty insane.



-Curt

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 4:31:31 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Dang, I forgot about Alcatraz. That’s a great tour, especially the audio tour. 
They have former inmates who narrate it, makes it really cool.

You’ll never find parking in SFO. Best to dump the car at a common point and 
use the cable cars or a cab.

-D


> On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m currently at fisherman’s wharf eating at some seafood place. Just had 
> shrimp. Not a big clam guy. When out to the end and saw Alcatraz and the 
> golden gate so I can cross those off. Drove by the Fairmont hotel, always 
> wanted to see it from the old TV show. I wanted to park and go in but gave up 
> trying to find somewhere to park. If I would have been thinking I would have 
> just booked a stay there since the company is paying for it. I might walk 
> around for a little bit then head back to the hotel.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, I'll concede on that. Had a buddy in San Diego, we went on a camping 
>> trip near Mono Lake and hot springs that was pretty awesome. I'm focusing on 
>> SF and LA.
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dan--- 
>> via Mercedes
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:19 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: d...@penoff.com
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF
>> 
>> Just certain parts. I’ll take the Sierras and most of northern CA (like 
>> Redding, Yreka, the northern coast) any time.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> If possible, I would prefer never to step foot in Calif again. CA sucks.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan 
>>> Penoff via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:54 AM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Cc: Dan Penoff
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF
>>> 
>>> If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. 
>>> Free needles, just pick them up off the street.
>>> 
>>> Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering the 
>>> streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
  https://thegrovesf.com/
 In the mission district, near Chinatown. We stayed near there once, the 
 food is good and the decor is cool.
 In Chinatown just pick a place that looks cool, theres loads of good 
 options. You might also try Haight\Ashbury, probably not after dark 
 though, its pretty sketch.
 -Curt
 
> On Monday, March 9, 2020, 9:56:48 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
 
 I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but 
 it’s a work trip. I’m
 Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
 fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so I 
 tend to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I didn’t do any tours although I did think about it. 

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> On Mar 10, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dang, I forgot about Alcatraz. That’s a great tour, especially the audio 
> tour. They have former inmates who narrate it, makes it really cool.
> 
> You’ll never find parking in SFO. Best to dump the car at a common point and 
> use the cable cars or a cab.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m currently at fisherman’s wharf eating at some seafood place. Just had 
>> shrimp. Not a big clam guy. When out to the end and saw Alcatraz and the 
>> golden gate so I can cross those off. Drove by the Fairmont hotel, always 
>> wanted to see it from the old TV show. I wanted to park and go in but gave 
>> up trying to find somewhere to park. If I would have been thinking I would 
>> have just booked a stay there since the company is paying for it. I might 
>> walk around for a little bit then head back to the hotel.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, I'll concede on that. Had a buddy in San Diego, we went on a camping 
>>> trip near Mono Lake and hot springs that was pretty awesome. I'm focusing 
>>> on SF and LA.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dan--- 
>>> via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:19 AM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Cc: d...@penoff.com
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF
>>> 
>>> Just certain parts. I’ll take the Sierras and most of northern CA (like 
>>> Redding, Yreka, the northern coast) any time.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 If possible, I would prefer never to step foot in Calif again. CA sucks.
 
 Greg
 
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 Penoff via Mercedes
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:54 AM
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 Cc: Dan Penoff
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF
 
 If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. 
 Free needles, just pick them up off the street.
 
 Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering 
 the streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.
 
 -D
 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
>  https://thegrovesf.com/
> In the mission district, near Chinatown. We stayed near there once, the 
> food is good and the decor is cool.
> In Chinatown just pick a place that looks cool, theres loads of good 
> options. You might also try Haight\Ashbury, probably not after dark 
> though, its pretty sketch.
> -Curt
> 
>> On Monday, March 9, 2020, 9:56:48 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
> 
> I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but 
> it’s a work trip. I’m
> Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
> fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so 
> I tend to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

After a left fisherman’s wharf I stumbled across Chinatown. Talk about a 3rd 
world looking area. Lots of orientals running around in masks. Past Chinatown 
toward the highway there was a massive amount of cops surrounding a large group 
of people. No idea what that was all about. They have these city busses running 
all over down there that are hooked up to these wires that run overhead. Really 
looks like a mess. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've stayed there a coupla times years ago, I think that was the place that 
> had a fancy restaurant in it I would brunch at, or maybe it was in a place 
> close by.  Some well-known chef, food was really good but it was a bit 
> spendy.  there were lots of good restaurants there, some outfit had 6 
> restaurants that were sort of a "chain" but they were all different.  I 
> remember going to one place, I think it was called Lulu's or something like 
> that (oh look, it closed 
> https://insidescoopsf.sfgate.com/blog/2017/01/03/restaurant-lulu-closes-without-warning-in-soma/
>  ), had a big wood grill and the seafood was awesome.  Another place was 
> kinda Chinese/Vietnamese that was amazing too.  I think we might have gone to 
> one or two others but my memory was altered...  It was fun there until it 
> turned into a sh*thole, which was starting the last time I was there which 
> was like 21 yr ago, people relieving themselves on the street, it smelled 
> really bad.  I walked to an event one morning and after that just took a taxi 
> the 4 or 5 blocks, it was nasty.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 3/10/20 3:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Drove by the Fairmont hotel, always wanted to see it from the old TV show. I 
>> wanted to park and go in but gave up trying to find somewhere to park. If I 
>> would have been thinking I would have just booked a stay there since the 
>> company is paying for it.
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Dang, I forgot about Alcatraz. That’s a great tour, especially the audio tour. 
They have former inmates who narrate it, makes it really cool.

You’ll never find parking in SFO. Best to dump the car at a common point and 
use the cable cars or a cab.

-D


> On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m currently at fisherman’s wharf eating at some seafood place. Just had 
> shrimp. Not a big clam guy. When out to the end and saw Alcatraz and the 
> golden gate so I can cross those off. Drove by the Fairmont hotel, always 
> wanted to see it from the old TV show. I wanted to park and go in but gave up 
> trying to find somewhere to park. If I would have been thinking I would have 
> just booked a stay there since the company is paying for it. I might walk 
> around for a little bit then head back to the hotel.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, I'll concede on that. Had a buddy in San Diego, we went on a camping 
>> trip near Mono Lake and hot springs that was pretty awesome. I'm focusing on 
>> SF and LA.
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dan--- 
>> via Mercedes
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:19 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: d...@penoff.com
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF
>> 
>> Just certain parts. I’ll take the Sierras and most of northern CA (like 
>> Redding, Yreka, the northern coast) any time.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> If possible, I would prefer never to step foot in Calif again. CA sucks.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan 
>>> Penoff via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:54 AM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Cc: Dan Penoff
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF
>>> 
>>> If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. 
>>> Free needles, just pick them up off the street.
>>> 
>>> Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering the 
>>> streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
  https://thegrovesf.com/
 In the mission district, near Chinatown. We stayed near there once, the 
 food is good and the decor is cool.
 In Chinatown just pick a place that looks cool, theres loads of good 
 options. You might also try Haight\Ashbury, probably not after dark 
 though, its pretty sketch.
 -Curt
 
> On Monday, March 9, 2020, 9:56:48 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
 
 I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but 
 it’s a work trip. I’m
 Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
 fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so I 
 tend to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The all want everything free.  In the real world, the place where 
everything is free is prison or slavery.   So the kollyfoneyians vote 
for morons who promise free stuff, but enslave/imprison them.   
Unfortunately, the goobers forgot to prevent the inmates from 
escaping.   So they flee to free states, and the wetbacks of every COO 
stream in for the freebies.



Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
March 10, 2020 at 2:55 PM
California is beautiful, but the government and people suck. Although 
most of the people I have encountered have been nice.




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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I've stayed there a coupla times years ago, I think that was the place 
that had a fancy restaurant in it I would brunch at, or maybe it was in 
a place close by.  Some well-known chef, food was really good but it was 
a bit spendy.  there were lots of good restaurants there, some outfit 
had 6 restaurants that were sort of a "chain" but they were all 
different.  I remember going to one place, I think it was called Lulu's 
or something like that (oh look, it closed 
https://insidescoopsf.sfgate.com/blog/2017/01/03/restaurant-lulu-closes-without-warning-in-soma/ 
), had a big wood grill and the seafood was awesome.  Another place was 
kinda Chinese/Vietnamese that was amazing too.  I think we might have 
gone to one or two others but my memory was altered...  It was fun there 
until it turned into a sh*thole, which was starting the last time I was 
there which was like 21 yr ago, people relieving themselves on the 
street, it smelled really bad.  I walked to an event one morning and 
after that just took a taxi the 4 or 5 blocks, it was nasty.


--FT

On 3/10/20 3:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Drove by the Fairmont hotel, always wanted to see it from the old TV show. I 
wanted to park and go in but gave up trying to find somewhere to park. If I 
would have been thinking I would have just booked a stay there since the 
company is paying for it.


--
--FT


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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

California is beautiful, but the government and people suck. Although most of 
the people I have encountered have been nice. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> +1   That is why people are fleeing in the thousands.
> 
>> Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>> March 10, 2020 at 1:09 PM
>> I have spent some time in SF, and was surprised and disappointed in their 
>> Chinatown, Having worked next door to NYC's Chinatown. Much better selection 
>> and food in NY than SF, IMO.
>> 
>> If possible, I would prefer never to step foot in Calif again. CA sucks.
>> 
>> Greg
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 For every one that leaves two more that want to be waiters arrive.
Oh wait, I meant actors, they want to be actors. They will be waiters but they 
want to be actors...
-Curt

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 3:52:49 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 +1   That is why people are fleeing in the thousands.

> Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
> March 10, 2020 at 1:09 PM
> I have spent some time in SF, and was surprised and disappointed in 
> their Chinatown, Having worked next door to NYC's Chinatown. Much 
> better selection and food in NY than SF, IMO.
>
> If possible, I would prefer never to step foot in Calif again. CA sucks.
>
> Greg

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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

+1   That is why people are fleeing in the thousands.


Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
March 10, 2020 at 1:09 PM
I have spent some time in SF, and was surprised and disappointed in 
their Chinatown, Having worked next door to NYC's Chinatown. Much 
better selection and food in NY than SF, IMO.


If possible, I would prefer never to step foot in Calif again. CA sucks.

Greg


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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I’m currently at fisherman’s wharf eating at some seafood place. Just had 
shrimp. Not a big clam guy. When out to the end and saw Alcatraz and the golden 
gate so I can cross those off. Drove by the Fairmont hotel, always wanted to 
see it from the old TV show. I wanted to park and go in but gave up trying to 
find somewhere to park. If I would have been thinking I would have just booked 
a stay there since the company is paying for it. I might walk around for a 
little bit then head back to the hotel.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK, I'll concede on that. Had a buddy in San Diego, we went on a camping 
> trip near Mono Lake and hot springs that was pretty awesome. I'm focusing on 
> SF and LA.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dan--- via 
> Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:19 AM
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> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF
> 
> Just certain parts. I’ll take the Sierras and most of northern CA (like 
> Redding, Yreka, the northern coast) any time.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> If possible, I would prefer never to step foot in Calif again. CA sucks.
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan 
>> Penoff via Mercedes
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:54 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: Dan Penoff
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF
>> 
>> If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. 
>> Free needles, just pick them up off the street.
>> 
>> Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering the 
>> streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  https://thegrovesf.com/
>>> In the mission district, near Chinatown. We stayed near there once, the 
>>> food is good and the decor is cool.
>>> In Chinatown just pick a place that looks cool, theres loads of good 
>>> options. You might also try Haight\Ashbury, probably not after dark though, 
>>> its pretty sketch.
>>> -Curt
>>> 
  On Monday, March 9, 2020, 9:56:48 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:  
>>> 
>>> I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but 
>>> it’s a work trip. I’m
>>> Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
>>> fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so I 
>>> tend to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places. 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 LA has good pockets, mostly restaurants, bookstores and breweries. Say what 
you will about hipsters, they take beer and coffee seriously and make excellent 
examples of each, sometimes together even.
-Curt

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 3:24:34 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 OK, I'll concede on that. Had a buddy in San Diego, we went on a camping trip 
near Mono Lake and hot springs that was pretty awesome. I'm focusing on SF and 
LA.

Greg

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Just certain parts. I’ll take the Sierras and most of northern CA (like 
Redding, Yreka, the northern coast) any time.

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> If possible, I would prefer never to step foot in Calif again. CA sucks.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
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> via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:54 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Dan Penoff
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF
> 
> If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. 
> Free needles, just pick them up off the street.
> 
> Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering the 
> streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  https://thegrovesf.com/
>> In the mission district, near Chinatown. We stayed near there once, the food 
>> is good and the decor is cool.
>> In Chinatown just pick a place that looks cool, theres loads of good 
>> options. You might also try Haight\Ashbury, probably not after dark though, 
>> its pretty sketch.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>  On Monday, March 9, 2020, 9:56:48 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> wrote:  
>> 
>> I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but it’s 
>> a work trip. I’m
>> Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
>> fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so I 
>> tend to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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OK, I'll concede on that. Had a buddy in San Diego, we went on a camping trip 
near Mono Lake and hot springs that was pretty awesome. I'm focusing on SF and 
LA.

Greg

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Just certain parts. I’ll take the Sierras and most of northern CA (like 
Redding, Yreka, the northern coast) any time.

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> If possible, I would prefer never to step foot in Calif again. CA sucks.
> 
> Greg
> 
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> via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:54 AM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF
> 
> If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. 
> Free needles, just pick them up off the street.
> 
> Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering the 
> streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  https://thegrovesf.com/
>> In the mission district, near Chinatown. We stayed near there once, the food 
>> is good and the decor is cool.
>> In Chinatown just pick a place that looks cool, theres loads of good 
>> options. You might also try Haight\Ashbury, probably not after dark though, 
>> its pretty sketch.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Monday, March 9, 2020, 9:56:48 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but it’s 
>> a work trip. I’m
>> Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
>> fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so I 
>> tend to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Some people are thinking of removing those places from California, as the
> attached picture shows.

Eastern WA wants to lose Western WA (but not the coastal areas) just as badly
as eastern OR wants to lose western OR.  (Coastal OR is considerably more 
built-up
than coastal WA, so there's some question there.)  Same exact rural vs urban 
problems.

I propose that the simplest/best solution is to form ONE new State: Portlandia, 
which
would contain the whole Salem-to-Bellingham high-density strip, including 
Portland
and Seattle.  I name I chose for it should be obvious.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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Just certain parts. I’ll take the Sierras and most of northern CA (like 
Redding, Yreka, the northern coast) any time.

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
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> 
> Greg
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> 
> If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. 
> Free needles, just pick them up off the street.
> 
> Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering the 
> streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  https://thegrovesf.com/
>> In the mission district, near Chinatown. We stayed near there once, the food 
>> is good and the decor is cool.
>> In Chinatown just pick a place that looks cool, theres loads of good 
>> options. You might also try Haight\Ashbury, probably not after dark though, 
>> its pretty sketch.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Monday, March 9, 2020, 9:56:48 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>> I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but it’s 
>> a work trip. I’m
>> Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
>> fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so I 
>> tend to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places. 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have spent some time in SF, and was surprised and disappointed in their 
Chinatown, Having worked next door to NYC's Chinatown. Much better selection 
and food in NY than SF, IMO.

If possible, I would prefer never to step foot in Calif again. CA sucks.

Greg

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If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. Free 
needles, just pick them up off the street.

Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering the 
streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  https://thegrovesf.com/
> In the mission district, near Chinatown. We stayed near there once, the food 
> is good and the decor is cool.
> In Chinatown just pick a place that looks cool, theres loads of good options. 
> You might also try Haight\Ashbury, probably not after dark though, its pretty 
> sketch.
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, March 9, 2020, 9:56:48 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but it’s 
> a work trip. I’m
> Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
> fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so I 
> tend to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So it’s 10:54 local time and I am done for the day. I guess I will head up and 
see the sights 

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> On Mar 10, 2020, at 10:24 AM, dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> When it comes to an assortment of ethnic neighborhoods, I think Milwaukee 
> wins hands down. You can stay in an area about 2-3 square miles and hit a 
> good 5-7 different ethnicities. Spread out more and get more. I can recall:
> 
> Greek
> Polish
> Peruvian
> German
> Slovak
> Macedonian (sort of Greek)
> Mexican
> Moroccan
> Indian
> Thai
> 
> Probably more, those are the ones I can recall.
> 
> Dang, I just had Thai for lunch and I’m hungry now.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I used to go to chinatown in Chit-cago.   That was fun.   Also went to the 
>> Greek part and the sandrat part to pick up various specialty foods.We 
>> were selling ramen noodles before they became mainstream.
>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> March 10, 2020 at 11:54 AM
>>> If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. 
>>> Free needles, just pick them up off the street.
>>> 
>>> Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering the 
>>> streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Ok, I was just trying to make the distinction, that’s all. My paternal 
grandfather was Macedonianif you called him Greek he would get pretty 
pissed.

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 1:32 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> 
> "Macedonian (sort of Greek)"
> 
> Alexander the Great begs to differ, he says "Greek is sort of Macedonian." ;)
> 
> https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/alexander-the-great/
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 1:24:39 PM EDT, dan--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> When it comes to an assortment of ethnic neighborhoods, I think Milwaukee 
> wins hands down. You can stay in an area about 2-3 square miles and hit a 
> good 5-7 different ethnicities. Spread out more and get more. I can recall:
> 
> Greek
> Polish
> Peruvian
> German
> Slovak
> Macedonian (sort of Greek)
> Mexican
> Moroccan
> Indian
> Thai
> 
> Probably more, those are the ones I can recall.
> 
> Dang, I just had Thai for lunch and I’m hungry now.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Mar 10, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I used to go to chinatown in Chit-cago.  That was fun.  Also went to the 
> > Greek part and the sandrat part to pick up various specialty foods.We 
> > were selling ramen noodles before they became mainstream.
> > 
> >> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> >> March 10, 2020 at 11:54 AM
> >> If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. 
> >> Free needles, just pick them up off the street.
> >> 
> >> Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering 
> >> the streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 "Macedonian (sort of Greek)"
Alexander the Great begs to differ, he says "Greek is sort of Macedonian." ;)
https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/alexander-the-great/
-Curt

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 1:24:39 PM EDT, dan--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 When it comes to an assortment of ethnic neighborhoods, I think Milwaukee wins 
hands down. You can stay in an area about 2-3 square miles and hit a good 5-7 
different ethnicities. Spread out more and get more. I can recall:

Greek
Polish
Peruvian
German
Slovak
Macedonian (sort of Greek)
Mexican
Moroccan
Indian
Thai

Probably more, those are the ones I can recall.

Dang, I just had Thai for lunch and I’m hungry now.

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I used to go to chinatown in Chit-cago.  That was fun.  Also went to the 
> Greek part and the sandrat part to pick up various specialty foods.    We 
> were selling ramen noodles before they became mainstream.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> March 10, 2020 at 11:54 AM
>> If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. 
>> Free needles, just pick them up off the street.
>> 
>> Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering the 
>> streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[dan--- via Mercedes]

When it comes to an assortment of ethnic neighborhoods, I think Milwaukee wins 
hands down. You can stay in an area about 2-3 square miles and hit a good 5-7 
different ethnicities. Spread out more and get more. I can recall:

Greek
Polish
Peruvian
German
Slovak
Macedonian (sort of Greek)
Mexican
Moroccan
Indian
Thai

Probably more, those are the ones I can recall.

Dang, I just had Thai for lunch and I’m hungry now.

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I used to go to chinatown in Chit-cago.   That was fun.   Also went to the 
> Greek part and the sandrat part to pick up various specialty foods.We 
> were selling ramen noodles before they became mainstream.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> March 10, 2020 at 11:54 AM
>> If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. 
>> Free needles, just pick them up off the street.
>> 
>> Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering the 
>> streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I used to go to chinatown in Chit-cago.   That was fun.   Also went to 
the Greek part and the sandrat part to pick up various specialty 
foods.    We were selling ramen noodles before they became mainstream.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
March 10, 2020 at 11:54 AM
If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin 
District. Free needles, just pick them up off the street.


Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just 
wandering the streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.


-D




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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If he wants sketchy he can head west from H-A to the Tenderloin District. Free 
needles, just pick them up off the street.

Chinatown rocks, even if you don’t eat anything. I loved just wandering the 
streets there and looking at all the cool shops and stuff.

-D

> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  https://thegrovesf.com/
> In the mission district, near Chinatown. We stayed near there once, the food 
> is good and the decor is cool.
> In Chinatown just pick a place that looks cool, theres loads of good options. 
> You might also try Haight\Ashbury, probably not after dark though, its pretty 
> sketch.
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, March 9, 2020, 9:56:48 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but it’s 
> a work trip. I’m
> Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
> fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so I 
> tend to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 https://thegrovesf.com/
In the mission district, near Chinatown. We stayed near there once, the food is 
good and the decor is cool.
In Chinatown just pick a place that looks cool, theres loads of good options. 
You might also try Haight\Ashbury, probably not after dark though, its pretty 
sketch.
-Curt

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 I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but it’s a 
work trip. I’m
Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so I tend 
to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places. 

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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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Run back and forth across the Golden Gate Bridge. That’s what I do when I’m 
there. 

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> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> As I said earlier, if you’ve got time do the tourista stuff, it’s fun and 
> entertaining and you’ll be surrounded by crowds and homeless selling 
> sweatshirts when the sun goes down and the temperature drops 20 degrees.
> 
> Fisherman’s Wharf, Boudin’s (bakery) and a sourdough bread bowl of clam 
> chowdah, ride the Mason/Powell cable car line, drive across the Golden Gate 
> to the Marin Highlands and look at the city if it’s not fogged in, etc., etc.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 9, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but it’s 
>> a work trip. I’m
>> Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
>> fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so I 
>> tend to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places. 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

As I said earlier, if you’ve got time do the tourista stuff, it’s fun and 
entertaining and you’ll be surrounded by crowds and homeless selling 
sweatshirts when the sun goes down and the temperature drops 20 degrees.

Fisherman’s Wharf, Boudin’s (bakery) and a sourdough bread bowl of clam 
chowdah, ride the Mason/Powell cable car line, drive across the Golden Gate to 
the Marin Highlands and look at the city if it’s not fogged in, etc., etc.

-D



> On Mar 9, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but it’s 
> a work trip. I’m
> Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
> fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so I 
> tend to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places. 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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Good point

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> How much ammunition do you have with you? That's my criteria.
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> Mar 9, 2020 9:56:48 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
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>> I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but it’s 
>> a work trip. I’m
>> Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
>> fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so I 
>> tend to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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How much ammunition do you have with you? That's my criteria.

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Mar 9, 2020 9:56:48 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but it’s 
> a work trip. I’m
> Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
> fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so I 
> tend to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places.
> 
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[MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I’m discovering it would be nice to be out here longer than 2 days, but it’s a 
work trip. I’m
Planning on heading into town tomorrow afternoon. Should I head to the 
fisherman wharf area? It’s also not much fun when you are by yourself so I tend 
to just stick to places close to hotel or chain places. 

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