Re: [MBZ] Headlight Troubles

2006-03-03 Thread Bill Gallagher
About a month ago my windshield wipers went dead driving to 
Canada...temp about 5F, wind speed of 30 plus mph and blowing snow 
had to drive about 10 miles to find cover from the wind in back of a 
truck stop ...checking the fuse and it was not blown, taking the 
fuse out, showed small pits on one ends... replaced the fuse and to my 
surprise the wipers worked .I only replaced the fuse recalling 
Marshall's fuse advice .Pay attention and thanks Marshall


Bill
1981 300 TD

Loren Faeth wrote:
Yeah, but Marshall never told you to replace the fuses for that side.  So I 
will


LF


At 12:38 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote:
  

Thanks to all for the suggestions.  Since I sent that email the lights
have been working perfectly (of course).  I will check all the suggested
places and clean the contacts this weekend.



Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 125K

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Re: [MBZ] Headlight Troubles

2006-03-03 Thread John W. Reames III
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Loren Faeth wrote:

> Yeah, but Marshall never told you to replace the fuses for that side.  So I 
> will

Before your pistons melt :):) 
-j.





Re: [MBZ] Headlight Troubles

2006-03-02 Thread Rhonald Angelo
Hey Jim, check your turn signal indicator switch...I had similar problems 
and finally one night, one the way home in the rain, my headlights and fog 
lights suddenly stopped working...fuses checked out fine...turned out to be 
the turn signal indicator.  All is well now.


Rhonald
1985 300D
294,000 miles

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From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 22:51:35 -0800

> For the last two weeks my right front headlight has had a poltergeist.
> Sometimes when I turn on the headlights, the little warning light comes
> on telling me that a light is out.  When I look at the headlight it is
> noticeably dimmer than the other.   HOWEVER,  just as often, the
> headlights are fine and the little warning light does not come on.  Do
> I
> have a bulb problem or short in the wiring?   Also, when the headlight
> is dim and the warning light is on I can put the brights on and the
> warning light goes away (I don't think this indicates anything, I think
> this is what sis supposed to happen).   Any thoughts?

Did anybody mention fuses yet?  But yes, it's a bad connection somewhere
along the line.  Seek and destroy!  (Don't forget the ground, it's just
as important as the others, and somewhat more neglected.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Headlight Troubles

2006-03-02 Thread Loren Faeth
Yeah, but Marshall never told you to replace the fuses for that side.  So I 
will


LF


At 12:38 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote:

Thanks to all for the suggestions.  Since I sent that email the lights
have been working perfectly (of course).  I will check all the suggested
places and clean the contacts this weekend.



Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 125K

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Re: [MBZ] Headlight Troubles

2006-03-02 Thread Jim Cathey

For the last two weeks my right front headlight has had a poltergeist.
Sometimes when I turn on the headlights, the little warning light comes
on telling me that a light is out.  When I look at the headlight it is
noticeably dimmer than the other.   HOWEVER,  just as often, the
headlights are fine and the little warning light does not come on.  Do 
I

have a bulb problem or short in the wiring?   Also, when the headlight
is dim and the warning light is on I can put the brights on and the
warning light goes away (I don't think this indicates anything, I think
this is what sis supposed to happen).   Any thoughts?


Did anybody mention fuses yet?  But yes, it's a bad connection somewhere
along the line.  Seek and destroy!  (Don't forget the ground, it's just
as important as the others, and somewhat more neglected.)

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Headlight Troubles

2006-03-02 Thread Peter Frederick
Hopefully it's just the socket for the bulb -- take the bulb out and 
take a look.  They tend to corrode, and a bad connection will cause low 
current flow (and a melted socket from the extra resistance, alas).  
The bulb can also be going bad, and this will cause the problem as well.


Clean and grease, or a new bulb should fix it.

However, I found I had a wiring problem on the 300D, or a bad bulb out 
warning relay ($200 +), so I ran a new wire.  The lamp out bulb is 
always on on low beam and most of the time now anyway -- I suspect the 
relay, but haven't popped for one yet.


Check the voltage at the lamp socket -- if you don't have battery 
voltage, it's wiring or the relay.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] Headlight Troubles

2006-03-01 Thread R A Bennell
I would agree. We have an 1980 LTD that my younger son was driving last
summer. It had (for as long as we owned it which is only a few years)a
problem with the lights. Mainly the green indicators in the dash would light
up when one turned on the lights at night. Not a major issue but an
annoyance. I always promised myself I would check it out but never did it.
Then when Thomas was trying to use it last summer, it started having issues
with the turn signal lights. I horsed around with it on a couple of
occasions but didn't have much time as he would wait to tell me until just
before he was leaving again (going back out to the lake almost 200 miles
away). I changed bulbs a couple of times and made it work but was never
happy. When I got a chance to look deeper, I suspected some of the sockets
so I replaced them. Again it worked for a bit but then started to act up
again. I decided the put new ground wires on each corner. I just spliced
into the ground wire and ran a short lead to a new screw into the frame.
Bingo - no more problems. All lights work properly. Turn signals work like
they are supposed to and the green indicator lights in the dash no longer
light up at night when the headlights are on. Easy fix, just took me a while
to accept that was all it was. Always seems easier to make a job bigger than
it has to be.

Randy B

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On Mar 1, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Bill Gallagher wrote:

> Donald Snook wrote:
>
>> For the last two weeks my right front headlight has had a
>> poltergeist.
>> Sometimes when I turn on the headlights, the little warning light
>> comes
>> on telling me that a light is out.  When I look at the headlight
>> it is
>> noticeably dimmer than the other.   HOWEVER,  just as often, the
>> headlights are fine and the little warning light does not come
>> on.  Do I
>> have a bulb problem or short in the wiring?   Also, when the
>> headlight
>> is dim and the warning light is on I can put the brights on and the
>> warning light goes away (I don't think this indicates anything, I
>> think
>> this is what sis supposed to happen).   Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Donald H. Snook


I would venture to say that you most likely have a bad ground on
that circuit. Check the cluster of brown wires where they attach to
the inner fender area.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] Headlight Troubles

2006-03-01 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 1, 2006, at 12:27 PM, Bill Gallagher wrote:


Donald Snook wrote:

For the last two weeks my right front headlight has had a  
poltergeist.
Sometimes when I turn on the headlights, the little warning light  
comes
on telling me that a light is out.  When I look at the headlight  
it is

noticeably dimmer than the other.   HOWEVER,  just as often, the
headlights are fine and the little warning light does not come  
on.  Do I
have a bulb problem or short in the wiring?   Also, when the  
headlight

is dim and the warning light is on I can put the brights on and the
warning light goes away (I don't think this indicates anything, I  
think

this is what sis supposed to happen).   Any thoughts?



Donald H. Snook



	I would venture to say that you most likely have a bad ground on  
that circuit. Check the cluster of brown wires where they attach to  
the inner fender area.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Headlight Troubles

2006-03-01 Thread Dave M.
Assuming your SEL has 9004 bulbs, let's hope nobody tried to install
higher wattage versions (say, 100/80 instead of 60/55). If that's the
case, you have see something like this:

http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_headlights/9004_conn_melted.jpg

Otherwise, just try cleaning the connectors on the bulb and/or
headlamp, and checking for loose grounds, etc.

:)

-Dave M.


> --
> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:06:47 -0600
> From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] Headlight Troubles
>
>
> For the last two weeks my right front headlight has had a poltergeist.
> Sometimes when I turn on the headlights, the little warning light comes
> on telling me that a light is out.  When I look at the headlight it is
> noticeably dimmer than the other.   HOWEVER,  just as often, the
> headlights are fine and the little warning light does not come on.  Do I
> have a bulb problem or short in the wiring?   Also, when the headlight
> is dim and the warning light is on I can put the brights on and the
> warning light goes away (I don't think this indicates anything, I think
> this is what sis supposed to happen).   Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
> 1990 300SEL 125K



Re: [MBZ] Headlight Troubles

2006-03-01 Thread Marshall Booth

Donald Snook wrote:

For the last two weeks my right front headlight has had a poltergeist.
Sometimes when I turn on the headlights, the little warning light comes
on telling me that a light is out.  When I look at the headlight it is
noticeably dimmer than the other.   HOWEVER,  just as often, the
headlights are fine and the little warning light does not come on.  Do I
have a bulb problem or short in the wiring?   Also, when the headlight
is dim and the warning light is on I can put the brights on and the
warning light goes away (I don't think this indicates anything, I think
this is what sis supposed to happen).   Any thoughts? 


The connector plugs that go from the main wiring harness to the light 
fixture and the plug from the light fixture to the lamp will often 
corrode (as you look inside the contacts they usually appear green or 
white if corroded). Cleaning with a good contact cleaner (like Caig 
DeOxit or D-5) will often correct the problem, but occasionally the 
connectors will need to be replaced. A bad chassis (somewhere under the 
headlight fixture) ground CAN cause a similar problem.


Marshall
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[MBZ] Headlight Troubles

2006-03-01 Thread Donald Snook
For the last two weeks my right front headlight has had a poltergeist.
Sometimes when I turn on the headlights, the little warning light comes
on telling me that a light is out.  When I look at the headlight it is
noticeably dimmer than the other.   HOWEVER,  just as often, the
headlights are fine and the little warning light does not come on.  Do I
have a bulb problem or short in the wiring?   Also, when the headlight
is dim and the warning light is on I can put the brights on and the
warning light goes away (I don't think this indicates anything, I think
this is what sis supposed to happen).   Any thoughts? 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 125K