for flared tubing.
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>> Thanks, Scott, this is great information! I guess what I was attempting to
>> determine as far as connections is where exactly th
red tubing.
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> Thanks, Scott, this
On Tue, June 30, 2020 1:05 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> I enclosed the exposed outside wires in
> flexible conduit. I'll look to see if I have any useful photos.
I wrapped the foam insulation in special tape to protect it from
sun/weather (can't remember the name for it and am having
My Fuji, like Scott's unit, had 18" lines on the right side of wall
cassette. Two places to run them through the wall behind it, barely
reached the left spot, ran more than a foot down the wall if you used the
right spot. Also a couple places to knock out a piece of plastic housing
and run them
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
Yeah, I’m not sure if I’ll do a concrete pad or hang on the wall. If it’s on a
pad it
has
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 06:26:10 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:
> I’m asking because I want to be able to determine exactly how long of a
> line set I’ll need without ending up short, if that makes sense.
>
> In other words, if I was measuring for the line set, would I measure
> from where
tools and it only takes a few minutes. Do bend the lines slowly
>> and
>> carefully so they don't kink. The outside unit doesn't vibrate much but it
>> will
>> vibrate so route lines in a way they can absorb vibration.
>>>>
>>>> -Origin
es
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>
> Yeah, I’m not sure if I’ll do a concrete pad or hang on the wall. If it’s on
> a pad it
> has to be strapped down for hizzicane code. A lot
But your four ton doesn't have four feet with bolt holes in them.
I would think that mini splits have to be bolted, not strapped, if the
code was updated for the existence of mini splits.
(for 'straps' on my 1.5T, I used the shipping clips that hook into the
floorpan and screw to the pallet it
Nope. Gotta be strapped. heck, even my 4 ton condensor has to be strapped to
its pad. Dade County code. (Dade County is Miami, and they pretty much lead the
charge when it comes to hurricane codes for the state.)
-D
> On Jun 29, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> On
On Mon, June 29, 2020 10:17 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Yeah, Iâm not sure if Iâll do a concrete pad or hang on the wall. If
> itâs on a pad it has to be strapped down for hizzicane code. A lot will
> have ot do with the length of the line sets that are available.
I would think
Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
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>> Maybe instead of looping it you can just move the outside unit down the wall
>>
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>
> Maybe instead of looping it you can just move the outside unit down the wall
> a few feet to take up the extra length?
>
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>>> On Jun 28, 2020,
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> So do you have to flare the line set no matter what? In other
ff via Mercedes
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So do you have to flare the line set no matter what? In other words, is the
line set not already flared with the fittings in place for the provided length?
Presuming th
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>
> Maybe instead of looping it you can just move the outside unit down the wall
> a few feet to take up the extra length?
>
> Sent from my iPh
doesn't vibrate much but it
will vibrate so route lines in a way they can absorb vibration.
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On Sun, June 28, 2020 10:20 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> If I get their adapter I presume I can use my automotive vacuum pump to
> pull a vacuum?
I bought an adapter and used my automotive manifold (low pressure gauge
side) and HF two stage pump. You don't want to use automotive
Maybe instead of looping it you can just move the outside unit down the wall a
few feet to take up the extra length?
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> On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> On Sun, June 28, 2020 8:43 am, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>
>>
>> On thing I
Better yet, they have it on their web site with a number of different
installation kits:
https://www.pioneerminisplit.com/collections/all-products/products/12-000-btu-ductless-dc-inverter-mini-split-air-conditioner-heat-pump-115-vac?variant=14703001534506
The Pioneer unit I was looking at had a 16’ line set included with it. I’ll see
if I can find the docs for it and determine if there’s a minimum length.
I’m guessing the actual length I’l need will be maybe 10-12 feet at the most.
This is one that I was considering if you can see the image - if
On Sun, June 28, 2020 8:43 am, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>
> On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set thatâs slightly
> longer than what I need, does it matter if I just looped it to take up
> the slack rather than have to cut and flare?
It shouldn't, although some possibility
You can just loop it if you don’t want to cut/flare it. I think 15’ is a
standard “short” length.
--FT
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> On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:44 AM, dan--- via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the information, Mitch, appreciate it.
>
> My install will be pretty straightforward.
Thanks for all the information, Mitch, appreciate it.
My install will be pretty straightforward. Interior unit high on side of
interior block (garage) wall, condensor on the outside of same wall, probably
8’-10’ below the level of the interior unit. Around here code requires a
precast or
What I did to mount the outdoor unit in cold climate:
3 treated 2x4s.
Handful of coated nails.
4 lag bolts.
Exterior paint.
Cut two 2x4s in half. Paint the 4 pieces and bury them so that the tops
are where you want the feet of the condenser unit.
Cut the other 2x4 into four pieces, the long
the needed
heat/cool.
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> Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 3:52 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
>
When I researched all this stuff, 7-8 years ago, Mitsu/Fuji were mostly
made in Japan, my Fuji was all Japanese. But more recently I've heard that
a lot of them are assembled in China, or sometimes assembled in home
country with world (China) components.
The central units, last I knew pretty much
...@mitchellhaley.com
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The big 3 were traditionally considered Daikin, Mitsubishi and Fujitsu.
The next tier is pretty much LG and LG.
The 'I like Commies' choices would have Pioneer and Gree in the top tier,
then everything else.
Daikin wasn't an option for me
In my case this won’t be used a great deal, that is, maybe one day a week for
6-8 hours, worst case scenario. I’m not sure that dropping $1000 on even an LG
makes sense in my case. I notice that you’ve also got to buy a lot of additonal
stuff, too, like a line set, cover for the lines, mounting
I put a 9k Fujitsu in my living room, still needed a 5k window unit in the
master bedroom to sleep in the worst weather as the bedroom door was 30'
away from the heat pump. In the winter I put a thermostat in the bedroom,
set it at 62 for sleeping, and ran the Fujitsu to heat the living room and
The big 3 were traditionally considered Daikin, Mitsubishi and Fujitsu.
The next tier is pretty much LG and LG.
The 'I like Commies' choices would have Pioneer and Gree in the top tier,
then everything else.
Daikin wasn't an option for me, as there were no gray market distribution
channels 8
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Maybe 3-5 years ago I installed a 12K "Pioneer" brand mini-split from
https://www.highseer.com/ in my "barn." I too used a pro connect the
refrigerant lines and do the initial startup. My
nnections. I can't swear it works but mine have never
leaked.
Scott
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I have put in 3 LG heat/cool systems, total 8 head units, ordered from AC
Wholesalers in FL somewhere. Easy install, 20A or 30A 220V circuits. (Don’t
forget a power shutoff at the condenser) Nothing difficult about the install if
you can get the lines in or through the wall (2” hole) and power
Me three. Our aged wall unit has finally irritated the wife. I suspect we can
get by with something quite small, the house is only 900sq ft.
Curt
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On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 10:34 AM, Peter Frederick via
Mercedes wrote: I need this information as well, I'm
I need this information as well, I'm figuring out how to set mine up. I'm done
with window units I think.
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As my standby generator install is wrapping up and a new 4 ton Lennox AC system
is going into the house, I’m getting close to the point of installing a mini
split system to take the edge off the heat and humidity so I can work in the
garage without sweating buckets.
I got a quote from my AC
My guy charged me a service call which was like $100 to pump it down and open
the gas
--FT
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> On Mar 26, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Looks like they have both Mitsubishi and LG, but the LG units are more
> plentiful and less expensive.
>
> I
Looks like they have both Mitsubishi and LG, but the LG units are more
plentiful and less expensive.
I need to check with my AC guy and see what he wants to do one for.
-D
> On Mar 26, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I bought mine from AC Wholesalers, they’re
I bought mine from AC Wholesalers, they’re in FL somewhere. Good prices. I
don’t think they have Mits, I got LGs
--FT
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> On Mar 26, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Seller blew me off on the mini-split. Oh well, at least I got a pinball
> machine.
>
>
Seller blew me off on the mini-split. Oh well, at least I got a pinball machine.
One thing I did notice when I looked at the mine-split. If you’re a FB user you
know that when you look at something for sale they glom up the rest of the page
with similar items they find. There were TONs of
Until I can get the loader worked out I don't even have space out in the
garage.Our garage is no place for an arcade machine either...
-Curt
On Thursday, March 26, 2020, 10:09:24 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:
I don’t either. It’s going in the garage for now. Until I can get
I don’t either. It’s going in the garage for now. Until I can get one of these
young adults out of the house it will remain out there I suspect.
-D
> On Mar 26, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>
> Cocktail are the least common cabinets unless you count the bar top ones. A
> good Ms
Cocktail are the least common cabinets unless you count the bar top ones. A
good Ms Pac-Man should run just under $1000.
I've had opportunities for pinball machines over the year but don't have space
for one...
Curt
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On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 8:01 AM, Dan
Those cocktail machines are pretty common and not terribly expensive. Nothing
like the prices for pinball machines. Some of the really popular electronic
games, like Addams Family, can bring upwards of $8k-$10k, believe it or not. EM
machines seem to run the $1k-$2k range, which is stupid. Some
Who wouldn't want a pinball machine?Actually I want a cocktail Ms. Pac-Man
cabinet...
Curt
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 10:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via
Mercedes wrote: What in the heck do you need with a
pinball machine?
On 3/25/2020 9:12 PM, Dan Penoff via
Don’t know about that. Maybe with electromechanical games. I don’t do the solid
state stuff. No fun, far too complex.
Here’s a schematic for the game. Classic ladder diagram.
https://www.ipdb.org/files/1388/Williams_1971_Klondike_Schematic_Diagram_continuous.pdf
You’re a pinball wizard
--FT
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> On Mar 26, 2020, at 5:35 AM, dan--- via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I had a nice side business years ago buying and selling electromechanical
> pins. I’ve often had a couple around the house for entertainment, but like
> cars, the darned younger
I had a nice side business years ago buying and selling electromechanical pins.
I’ve often had a couple around the house for entertainment, but like cars, the
darned younger people with more money than brains have driven the values up,
even for the old EM machines, to the point where they’re
What in the heck do you need with a pinball machine?
On 3/25/2020 9:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Just got a deal on a pinball machine I made a lowball offer on to a guy that
only lives about four bocks away. Guess I’ll be picking that up tomorrow. Now
if I can just get a deal on the
Just got a deal on a pinball machine I made a lowball offer on to a guy that
only lives about four bocks away. Guess I’ll be picking that up tomorrow. Now
if I can just get a deal on the mini-split I’ll have a cool garage to work on
the pinball machine in…
-D
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 9:25 PM,
Cash money talks.
--FT
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> On Mar 25, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I lowered my offer to $350, stating that since it’s not working I have no
> way of knowing if it’s functional, and the lines and compressor are no longer
> precharged, either.
>
>
I lowered my offer to $350, stating that since it’s not working I have no way
of knowing if it’s functional, and the lines and compressor are no longer
precharged, either.
Doubt that will garner any sympathy, but we’ll see. Worst thing is the guy
either counters or blows me off.
We’ll see. I
Mitsubishi is probably the best
--FT
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> On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Did someone say Mitsubishi was a good brand of mini-split? I ask because
> someone on my local FB Marketplace group has a 9,000 BTU unit they took out
> of service
Did someone say Mitsubishi was a good brand of mini-split? I ask because
someone on my local FB Marketplace group has a 9,000 BTU unit they took out of
service after six months they’re looking for offers on.
It’s an MZ-GL09NA
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