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6.2 is idi..Powerstroke is DI. Benz is idi. What are you getting at? Mike On Aug 31, 2013 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: This is the textbook difference between direct and indirect injection isn't it? -Curt Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 00:18:34 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] my kinda car Message-ID: CALHJ_1DBzDF1UxsZrNW+A_us9cB3repKHTziFugZsBiYt4e9=q...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I disagree. I own nothing but Diesels of many types and every one but the Mercedes is very sensitive to RPM when efficiency is in mind. Only the Benz seems to like to rev and still get great figures. My Powerstroke will pull near 22 mpg if you never let it over 2000rpm while towing a 6500 pound truck. It gets 16 if you don't. My 6.2 will pull 25 empty @55mph but run 65 with no OD and it drops dramatically to 15. Google high mpg Cummins. There are trucks out there that will go like hell and are pulling 50+ empty. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Originally I was thinking that DI made power in a narrower power band and was therefore more sensitive to running at high speeds. Then I had to reconsider because of the 6.2 being IDI but IIRC yours is a 1ton truck and probably geared for stump pulling. I'll make an educated guess (I think you'd mentioned it once) that the engine is wailing at 65mph... When I had my '85 190D I did a bunch of experiments and could never find a difference in mileage between 4th and 5th. Meaning I'd commute 400 miles never using 5th and then the next 400 miles using 5th as I normally would. That car averaged 38mpg no matter what. That said I was keeping the speed moderate. I suspect if I was at 90mph the difference would become apparent. -Curt Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 02:49:44 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] my kinda car Message-ID: CALHJ_1DihQvnAfAhCbp1WWZ=mbdva_qu0mq929rxbxnopjn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 6.2 is idi..Powerstroke is DI. Benz is idi. What are you getting at? Mike On Aug 31, 2013 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: This is the textbook difference between direct and indirect injection isn't it? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm given to understand that all the kids looking for lowest RPM are barking up the wrong tree as you want the turbo spinning to increase efficiency and fuel economy... -Curt Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:58:54 -0700 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] my kinda car Message-ID: 45d5f660-11e9-11e3-9017-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed A twin turbo 1000hp 6bt with a triple overdrive for ridiculous low rpm highway cruising and 50mpg or better is what I had in mind..lol Why 50 mpg? It's a diesel, they're not quite as sensitive to RPM as a gasser. You can get a solid 25MPG in the truck if you keep it under 1800 RPM, which is (I've heard) its sweet spot. But 50? Also, do remember that at low RPM's the torque out of that engine is very 'lobey', it could beat your drivetrain to pieces. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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This is the textbook difference between direct and indirect injection isn't it? -Curt Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 00:18:34 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] my kinda car Message-ID: CALHJ_1DBzDF1UxsZrNW+A_us9cB3repKHTziFugZsBiYt4e9=q...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I disagree. I own nothing but Diesels of many types and every one but the Mercedes is very sensitive to RPM when efficiency is in mind. Only the Benz seems to like to rev and still get great figures. My Powerstroke will pull near 22 mpg if you never let it over 2000rpm while towing a 6500 pound truck. It gets 16 if you don't. My 6.2 will pull 25 empty @55mph but run 65 with no OD and it drops dramatically to 15. Google high mpg Cummins. There are trucks out there that will go like hell and are pulling 50+ empty. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Michael Canfield wrote: My 6.2 will pull 25 empty @55mph but run 65 with no OD and it drops dramatically to 15. Curt wrote: This is the textbook difference between direct and indirect injection isn't it? The GM 6.2L is indirect injection. And that _shouldn't_ make a difference from a theoretical standpoint. Reality may be different. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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But in this line of thought, the MB 300CD was a collectible as well, only 5K made. Yet they are dogs on Craigslist, and for 20K you can have a stable full. From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] my kinda car The Jeepster has quite a cult following due to it's rarity. What other vehicle could you get for 20 big ones that is as rare and in such nice shape? There really was less than 9k of them made. This is not the much more common Jeepster Commando that they made thousands and thousands of. It is a true collectors piece. Mike Mike On Aug 30, 2013 3:04 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/ctd/3990826426.html -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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give it time. back in the 80s, minis in england and bugs in CA would sell for a couple of hundred bucks in usable condition. both are worth real money today as i mentioned, toyota starlets and even chevettes are worth money today in a decade or two, the 300CD will be a valuable collectable and your dying words will be i coulda had one for 2 grand and it was nice too! On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: But in this line of thought, the MB 300CD was a collectible as well, only 5K made. Yet they are dogs on Craigslist, and for 20K you can have a stable full. From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] my kinda car The Jeepster has quite a cult following due to it's rarity. What other vehicle could you get for 20 big ones that is as rare and in such nice shape? There really was less than 9k of them made. This is not the much more common Jeepster Commando that they made thousands and thousands of. It is a true collectors piece. Mike Mike On Aug 30, 2013 3:04 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/ctd/3990826426.html -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gary wrote: when i was a kid, i had an ownership interest in 2 vehicle: a 1960 cadillac and a 70s checker cab. both were essentially thrown away for being worthless Alex wrote: Argh! I love Checkers. Haven't seen one in years. I'd like to get a nice well-preserved one and do nothing to it except replacing the engine with a crate small-block, then use it as a daily driver. I'd put an OM617 turbo in it. _That_ would be special - and slow. So maybe a 4BT - but that would be rough. Ahh. A 6BT - that's what a Checker needs! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 30/08/2013 12:01 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Aug 30, 2013 9:16 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 30/08/2013 2:04 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/ctd/3990826426.html If I want to drive a topless car that looks like a Jeep but is less practical, for $20K I bet I could find an absolutely mint VW Thing. Alex ___ We saw some of those Things when we were in Hawaii last winter. A good vehicle for that climate. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 30/08/2013 12:16 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: The Jeepster has quite a cult following due to it's rarity. What other vehicle could you get for 20 big ones that is as rare and in such nice shape? There really was less than 9k of them made. This is not the much more common Jeepster Commando that they made thousands and thousands of. It is a true collectors piece. Mike Maybe I have things backwards, but a rare car is the last thing that I want. When I buy parts, I like the vehicle to be as generic as it can be. The F150 is a good example. Generally, when I go to get parts, they have them on the shelf. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well duh, for a daily driver. Of which this is not. It is a toy, not a tool. Mike On Aug 30, 2013 3:20 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 30/08/2013 12:16 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: The Jeepster has quite a cult following due to it's rarity. What other vehicle could you get for 20 big ones that is as rare and in such nice shape? There really was less than 9k of them made. This is not the much more common Jeepster Commando that they made thousands and thousands of. It is a true collectors piece. Mike Maybe I have things backwards, but a rare car is the last thing that I want. When I buy parts, I like the vehicle to be as generic as it can be. The F150 is a good example. Generally, when I go to get parts, they have them on the shelf. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That is what I have the 76 115 300D for. It is the toy. The truck is the daily driver. I am already getting concerned that the 300D is too rare. Parts seem readily available but my concern is that it will be noticed because it is different and be targeted by vandals on parking lots etc. Not too much concern close by in the day time but leaving it out over night concerns me etc. If it were vandalized the insurance people would write it off in a minute. Randy On 30/08/2013 2:28 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Well duh, for a daily driver. Of which this is not. It is a toy, not a tool. Mike On Aug 30, 2013 3:20 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 30/08/2013 12:16 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: The Jeepster has quite a cult following due to it's rarity. What other vehicle could you get for 20 big ones that is as rare and in such nice shape? There really was less than 9k of them made. This is not the much more common Jeepster Commando that they made thousands and thousands of. It is a true collectors piece. Mike Maybe I have things backwards, but a rare car is the last thing that I want. When I buy parts, I like the vehicle to be as generic as it can be. The F150 is a good example. Generally, when I go to get parts, they have them on the shelf. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A twin turbo 1000hp 6bt with a triple overdrive for ridiculous low rpm highway cruising and 50mpg or better is what I had in mind..lol Would be near bulletproof, hot enough to smoke near anything off the line, efficient, etc Mike On Aug 30, 2013 2:24 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: when i was a kid, i had an ownership interest in 2 vehicle: a 1960 cadillac and a 70s checker cab. both were essentially thrown away for being worthless Alex wrote: Argh! I love Checkers. Haven't seen one in years. I'd like to get a nice well-preserved one and do nothing to it except replacing the engine with a crate small-block, then use it as a daily driver. I'd put an OM617 turbo in it. _That_ would be special - and slow. So maybe a 4BT - but that would be rough. Ahh. A 6BT - that's what a Checker needs! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i agree with that. what makes a car really work long term is cheap and plentiful parts and ease of service. the reason you buy a ford is not so much that its the greatest car there is, but there are parts everywhere cheap and anyone knows how to fix it. On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 30/08/2013 12:16 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: The Jeepster has quite a cult following due to it's rarity. What other vehicle could you get for 20 big ones that is as rare and in such nice shape? There really was less than 9k of them made. This is not the much more common Jeepster Commando that they made thousands and thousands of. It is a true collectors piece. Mike Maybe I have things backwards, but a rare car is the last thing that I want. When I buy parts, I like the vehicle to be as generic as it can be. The F150 is a good example. Generally, when I go to get parts, they have them on the shelf. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A Checker should have enough room to drop in a Cummins from a Dodge pickup truck. I remember when I was but a young fellow, I worked a couple of summers in a grocery store out at the lake. That would have been probably about 1965 and 1966 or maybe 1967. One of my jobs was to help pack food orders and then carry them out to the customer's car. One of the regular customers had a Checker sedan. Lovely big thing. No problem piling the grocery bags in the back seat of that thing. Randy On 30/08/2013 3:21 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: A twin turbo 1000hp 6bt with a triple overdrive for ridiculous low rpm highway cruising and 50mpg or better is what I had in mind..lol Would be near bulletproof, hot enough to smoke near anything off the line, efficient, etc Mike On Aug 30, 2013 2:24 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: when i was a kid, i had an ownership interest in 2 vehicle: a 1960 cadillac and a 70s checker cab. both were essentially thrown away for being worthless Alex wrote: Argh! I love Checkers. Haven't seen one in years. I'd like to get a nice well-preserved one and do nothing to it except replacing the engine with a crate small-block, then use it as a daily driver. I'd put an OM617 turbo in it. _That_ would be special - and slow. So maybe a 4BT - but that would be rough. Ahh. A 6BT - that's what a Checker needs! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Aug 30, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the reason you buy a ford is not so much that its the greatest car there is, but there are parts everywhere cheap and anyone knows how to fix it. I would argue the anyone knows how to fix it. Good independent shops are a dying breed. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The mother of this girl I worked with in Houston lived close to me, she had a Checker done up like an old taxi -- yellow with some sort of logo. It was her daily driver. I'd see her tooling around in it quite often, and see it parked on the street by her condo. --R On 8/30/13 5:25 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: A Checker should have enough room to drop in a Cummins from a Dodge pickup truck. I remember when I was but a young fellow, I worked a couple of summers in a grocery store out at the lake. That would have been probably about 1965 and 1966 or maybe 1967. One of my jobs was to help pack food orders and then carry them out to the customer's car. One of the regular customers had a Checker sedan. Lovely big thing. No problem piling the grocery bags in the back seat of that thing. Randy On 30/08/2013 3:21 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: A twin turbo 1000hp 6bt with a triple overdrive for ridiculous low rpm highway cruising and 50mpg or better is what I had in mind..lol Would be near bulletproof, hot enough to smoke near anything off the line, efficient, etc Mike On Aug 30, 2013 2:24 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: when i was a kid, i had an ownership interest in 2 vehicle: a 1960 cadillac and a 70s checker cab. both were essentially thrown away for being worthless Alex wrote: Argh! I love Checkers. Haven't seen one in years. I'd like to get a nice well-preserved one and do nothing to it except replacing the engine with a crate small-block, then use it as a daily driver. I'd put an OM617 turbo in it. _That_ would be special - and slow. So maybe a 4BT - but that would be rough. Ahh. A 6BT - that's what a Checker needs! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 30/08/2013 2:04 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/ctd/3990826426.html Cute, but for $20K+, I think I can find lots of other vehicles I would prefer. It is sort of like a Miata. They look nice but I don't want one. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My dying words will come in less than one decade if history serves correctly, and they will be more along the line of 'does anyone have a good microbrew handy?' .. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] my kinda car give it time. back in the 80s, minis in england and bugs in CA would sell for a couple of hundred bucks in usable condition. both are worth real money today as i mentioned, toyota starlets and even chevettes are worth money today in a decade or two, the 300CD will be a valuable collectable and your dying words will be i coulda had one for 2 grand and it was nice too! On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: But in this line of thought, the MB 300CD was a collectible as well, only 5K made. Yet they are dogs on Craigslist, and for 20K you can have a stable full. From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] my kinda car The Jeepster has quite a cult following due to it's rarity. What other vehicle could you get for 20 big ones that is as rare and in such nice shape? There really was less than 9k of them made. This is not the much more common Jeepster Commando that they made thousands and thousands of. It is a true collectors piece. Mike Mike On Aug 30, 2013 3:04 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/ctd/3990826426.html -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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they were perceived as worthless. but they were GREAT cars On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: A Checker worthless? I would love to have one of those ugly old things to cart my rugrats around in. Those things were Mercedes Diesel reliable and Chevy truck tough. Mike On Aug 30, 2013 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: when i was a kid, i had an ownership interest in 2 vehicle: a 1960 cadillac and a 70s checker cab. both were essentially thrown away for being worthless On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Aug 30, 2013 10:28 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: give it time. That's the key, isn't it? Jaime keeps telling us to buy up 116s because they're becoming collectible. Living in the biohipster capital of the world I see lots of clapped-out 300SDs, so it's hard to take him seriously, but I bet he's right. I'm currently watching the prices of 300CE cabrios and Cosworth 190Es, trying to pick up a nice one near the bottom. I missed my chance on the E30 M3--I remember when they were going for under $10K. Not going to repeat that mistake if I can. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Who in the world compares a 70s or 80s car to a 50s car? Besides which while the 300CD is a low production car the 300D and 240D and 300TD are not. Most people don't see the difference. There was no 4 door Jeepster variant to drive prices down. You want strange value price out a VW Caddy. -Curt Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:28:34 -0400 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] my kinda car Message-ID: caciok3ubfkxg+x9xs1f00ze_hxnygrt_5dn67tkky+fm+qf...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 give it time. back in the 80s, minis in england and bugs in CA would sell for a couple of hundred bucks in usable condition. both are worth real money today as i mentioned, toyota starlets and even chevettes are worth money today in a decade or two, the 300CD will be a valuable collectable and your dying words will be i coulda had one for 2 grand and it was nice too! On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: But in this line of thought, the MB 300CD was a collectible as well, only 5K made. Yet they are dogs on Craigslist, and for 20K you can have a stable full. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And I have a solid bodied 79 CD sitting on blocks in the back yard that I have been robbing parts from because no one wants to buy it. Terrible really. Mike On Aug 30, 2013 1:23 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote: But in this line of thought, the MB 300CD was a collectible as well, only 5K made. Yet they are dogs on Craigslist, and for 20K you can have a stable full. From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] my kinda car The Jeepster has quite a cult following due to it's rarity. What other vehicle could you get for 20 big ones that is as rare and in such nice shape? There really was less than 9k of them made. This is not the much more common Jeepster Commando that they made thousands and thousands of. It is a true collectors piece. Mike Mike On Aug 30, 2013 3:04 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/ctd/3990826426.html -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You worry too much. Just drive it and hope for the best. Mike On Aug 30, 2013 3:33 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: That is what I have the 76 115 300D for. It is the toy. The truck is the daily driver. I am already getting concerned that the 300D is too rare. Parts seem readily available but my concern is that it will be noticed because it is different and be targeted by vandals on parking lots etc. Not too much concern close by in the day time but leaving it out over night concerns me etc. If it were vandalized the insurance people would write it off in a minute. Randy On 30/08/2013 2:28 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Well duh, for a daily driver. Of which this is not. It is a toy, not a tool. Mike On Aug 30, 2013 3:20 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 30/08/2013 12:16 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: The Jeepster has quite a cult following due to it's rarity. What other vehicle could you get for 20 big ones that is as rare and in such nice shape? There really was less than 9k of them made. This is not the much more common Jeepster Commando that they made thousands and thousands of. It is a true collectors piece. Mike Maybe I have things backwards, but a rare car is the last thing that I want. When I buy parts, I like the vehicle to be as generic as it can be. The F150 is a good example. Generally, when I go to get parts, they have them on the shelf. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That is what I am doing. It is not a show car. Randy On 30/08/2013 2:40 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: You worry too much. Just drive it and hope for the best. Mike On Aug 30, 2013 3:33 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: That is what I have the 76 115 300D for. It is the toy. The truck is the daily driver. I am already getting concerned that the 300D is too rare. Parts seem readily available but my concern is that it will be noticed because it is different and be targeted by vandals on parking lots etc. Not too much concern close by in the day time but leaving it out over night concerns me etc. If it were vandalized the insurance people would write it off in a minute. Randy On 30/08/2013 2:28 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Well duh, for a daily driver. Of which this is not. It is a toy, not a tool. Mike On Aug 30, 2013 3:20 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 30/08/2013 12:16 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: The Jeepster has quite a cult following due to it's rarity. What other vehicle could you get for 20 big ones that is as rare and in such nice shape? There really was less than 9k of them made. This is not the much more common Jeepster Commando that they made thousands and thousands of. It is a true collectors piece. Mike Maybe I have things backwards, but a rare car is the last thing that I want. When I buy parts, I like the vehicle to be as generic as it can be. The F150 is a good example. Generally, when I go to get parts, they have them on the shelf. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The Jeepster has quite a cult following due to it's rarity. What other vehicle could you get for 20 big ones that is as rare and in such nice shape? There really was less than 9k of them made. This is not the much more common Jeepster Commando that they made thousands and thousands of. It is a true collectors piece. Mike Mike On Aug 30, 2013 3:04 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/ctd/3990826426.html -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Aug 30, 2013 10:28 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: give it time. That's the key, isn't it? Jaime keeps telling us to buy up 116s because they're becoming collectible. Living in the biohipster capital of the world I see lots of clapped-out 300SDs, so it's hard to take him seriously, but I bet he's right. I'm currently watching the prices of 300CE cabrios and Cosworth 190Es, trying to pick up a nice one near the bottom. I missed my chance on the E30 M3--I remember when they were going for under $10K. Not going to repeat that mistake if I can. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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another example of a simple and direct car that has become valuable. hell, even starlets and chevettes have become valuable! On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Aug 30, 2013 9:16 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 30/08/2013 2:04 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/ctd/3990826426.html If I want to drive a topless car that looks like a Jeep but is less practical, for $20K I bet I could find an absolutely mint VW Thing. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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checker had a wagon version back when they were still making passenger cars. i've always wanted one but never even seen one On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: My buddy in high school had a Checker cab his dad bought at a charity auction for $500. It had been cleaned up and painted baby blue. He gave everyone rides home in it, could get at least 8 or 10 kids in there with the jump seats that folded down in the back. He drove it for a coupla years then his sister got it and drove it through HS, I think it finally just died and they got a new Toyota Celica, the first one. The guy had told his dad it was sporty and could be driven hard. It was new one summer when he came home from college, he thrashed the hell out of the thing, being as it was sporty but it pretty much held up for a few years. --R On 8/30/13 4:21 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: A twin turbo 1000hp 6bt with a triple overdrive for ridiculous low rpm highway cruising and 50mpg or better is what I had in mind..lol Would be near bulletproof, hot enough to smoke near anything off the line, efficient, etc Mike On Aug 30, 2013 2:24 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: when i was a kid, i had an ownership interest in 2 vehicle: a 1960 cadillac and a 70s checker cab. both were essentially thrown away for being worthless Alex wrote: Argh! I love Checkers. Haven't seen one in years. I'd like to get a nice well-preserved one and do nothing to it except replacing the engine with a crate small-block, then use it as a daily driver. I'd put an OM617 turbo in it. _That_ would be special - and slow. So maybe a 4BT - but that would be rough. Ahh. A 6BT - that's what a Checker needs! -- Philip __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Aug 30, 2013 10:49 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: when i was a kid, i had an ownership interest in 2 vehicle: a 1960 cadillac and a 70s checker cab. both were essentially thrown away for being worthless Argh! I love Checkers. Haven't seen one in years. I'd like to get a nice well-preserved one and do nothing to it except replacing the engine with a crate small-block, then use it as a daily driver. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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when i was a kid, i had an ownership interest in 2 vehicle: a 1960 cadillac and a 70s checker cab. both were essentially thrown away for being worthless On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Aug 30, 2013 10:28 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: give it time. That's the key, isn't it? Jaime keeps telling us to buy up 116s because they're becoming collectible. Living in the biohipster capital of the world I see lots of clapped-out 300SDs, so it's hard to take him seriously, but I bet he's right. I'm currently watching the prices of 300CE cabrios and Cosworth 190Es, trying to pick up a nice one near the bottom. I missed my chance on the E30 M3--I remember when they were going for under $10K. Not going to repeat that mistake if I can. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I tried to find a Checker when I was in high school, mainly for the interior size and significant number of bodies it could carry. I could never seem to find one when I was in the market, though. My second choice was a beautiful 1965 Cadillac hearse that my buddy's dad (local funeral director) was selling for $500. As one might expect, it was low miles and absolutely pristine. Dad said there was No way in hell you're parking a hearse in my driveway!! So I ended up with a 1960 barn door VW van. Der PartyVagon was airbrushed on the sides in Gothic looking type courtesy of a female friend who came over to the house on a regular basis to use our air system to do airbrush work. The van, especially after Jackie's airbrush work (which was very nice, I thought) pissed the old man off even more. Not long before he died we were reminiscing about the cars we had around the house over the years and he confided to me that he wished I had gotten the hearse instead Dan On Aug 30, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: My buddy in high school had a Checker cab his dad bought at a charity auction for $500. It had been cleaned up and painted baby blue. He gave everyone rides home in it, could get at least 8 or 10 kids in there with the jump seats that folded down in the back. He drove it for a coupla years then his sister got it and drove it through HS, I think it finally just died and they got a new Toyota Celica, the first one. The guy had told his dad it was sporty and could be driven hard. It was new one summer when he came home from college, he thrashed the hell out of the thing, being as it was sporty but it pretty much held up for a few years. --R On 8/30/13 4:21 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: A twin turbo 1000hp 6bt with a triple overdrive for ridiculous low rpm highway cruising and 50mpg or better is what I had in mind..lol Would be near bulletproof, hot enough to smoke near anything off the line, efficient, etc Mike On Aug 30, 2013 2:24 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: when i was a kid, i had an ownership interest in 2 vehicle: a 1960 cadillac and a 70s checker cab. both were essentially thrown away for being worthless Alex wrote: Argh! I love Checkers. Haven't seen one in years. I'd like to get a nice well-preserved one and do nothing to it except replacing the engine with a crate small-block, then use it as a daily driver. I'd put an OM617 turbo in it. _That_ would be special - and slow. So maybe a 4BT - but that would be rough. Ahh. A 6BT - that's what a Checker needs! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yep, I remember when they were brand new. Theater owner in my small home town in eastern NC bought a yellow one and kept it parked in front of the theater. Whaddya think it may have cost him then - $1200, maybe? Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] my kinda car On Aug 30, 2013 9:16 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 30/08/2013 2:04 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/ctd/3990826426.html If I want to drive a topless car that looks like a Jeep but is less practical, for $20K I bet I could find an absolutely mint VW Thing. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i have the opposite outlook. i'd want one with the ancient continental truck engine they were worthless. i think the going rate for an ex NYC cab was 300 dollars. you'd buy one. drive it until something broke that cost over 50 bucks. then throw it away On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Aug 30, 2013 10:49 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: when i was a kid, i had an ownership interest in 2 vehicle: a 1960 cadillac and a 70s checker cab. both were essentially thrown away for being worthless Argh! I love Checkers. Haven't seen one in years. I'd like to get a nice well-preserved one and do nothing to it except replacing the engine with a crate small-block, then use it as a daily driver. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My buddy in high school had a Checker cab his dad bought at a charity auction for $500. It had been cleaned up and painted baby blue. He gave everyone rides home in it, could get at least 8 or 10 kids in there with the jump seats that folded down in the back. He drove it for a coupla years then his sister got it and drove it through HS, I think it finally just died and they got a new Toyota Celica, the first one. The guy had told his dad it was sporty and could be driven hard. It was new one summer when he came home from college, he thrashed the hell out of the thing, being as it was sporty but it pretty much held up for a few years. --R On 8/30/13 4:21 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: A twin turbo 1000hp 6bt with a triple overdrive for ridiculous low rpm highway cruising and 50mpg or better is what I had in mind..lol Would be near bulletproof, hot enough to smoke near anything off the line, efficient, etc Mike On Aug 30, 2013 2:24 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: when i was a kid, i had an ownership interest in 2 vehicle: a 1960 cadillac and a 70s checker cab. both were essentially thrown away for being worthless Alex wrote: Argh! I love Checkers. Haven't seen one in years. I'd like to get a nice well-preserved one and do nothing to it except replacing the engine with a crate small-block, then use it as a daily driver. I'd put an OM617 turbo in it. _That_ would be special - and slow. So maybe a 4BT - but that would be rough. Ahh. A 6BT - that's what a Checker needs! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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once you become a collector car, the cheap simple things goes away. at a certain point in history, though, this would be a car to buy and use. On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 30/08/2013 2:04 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: http://miami.craigslist.org/**pbc/ctd/3990826426.htmlhttp://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/ctd/3990826426.html Cute, but for $20K+, I think I can find lots of other vehicles I would prefer. It is sort of like a Miata. They look nice but I don't want one. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Aug 30, 2013 9:16 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 30/08/2013 2:04 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/ctd/3990826426.html If I want to drive a topless car that looks like a Jeep but is less practical, for $20K I bet I could find an absolutely mint VW Thing. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I shoulda let my SDL go a year ago when it was vandalized and USAA paid me significant money for the damages. I wanted to let 'er go, but SWMBO thought differently, and you know how that went. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] my kinda car That is what I have the 76 115 300D for. It is the toy. The truck is the daily driver. I am already getting concerned that the 300D is too rare. Parts seem readily available but my concern is that it will be noticed because it is different and be targeted by vandals on parking lots etc. Not too much concern close by in the day time but leaving it out over night concerns me etc. If it were vandalized the insurance people would write it off in a minute. Randy On 30/08/2013 2:28 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Well duh, for a daily driver. Of which this is not. It is a toy, not a tool. Mike On Aug 30, 2013 3:20 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 30/08/2013 12:16 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: The Jeepster has quite a cult following due to it's rarity. What other vehicle could you get for 20 big ones that is as rare and in such nice shape? There really was less than 9k of them made. This is not the much more common Jeepster Commando that they made thousands and thousands of. It is a true collectors piece. Mike Maybe I have things backwards, but a rare car is the last thing that I want. When I buy parts, I like the vehicle to be as generic as it can be. The F150 is a good example. Generally, when I go to get parts, they have them on the shelf. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A Checker worthless? I would love to have one of those ugly old things to cart my rugrats around in. Those things were Mercedes Diesel reliable and Chevy truck tough. Mike On Aug 30, 2013 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: when i was a kid, i had an ownership interest in 2 vehicle: a 1960 cadillac and a 70s checker cab. both were essentially thrown away for being worthless On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Aug 30, 2013 10:28 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: give it time. That's the key, isn't it? Jaime keeps telling us to buy up 116s because they're becoming collectible. Living in the biohipster capital of the world I see lots of clapped-out 300SDs, so it's hard to take him seriously, but I bet he's right. I'm currently watching the prices of 300CE cabrios and Cosworth 190Es, trying to pick up a nice one near the bottom. I missed my chance on the E30 M3--I remember when they were going for under $10K. Not going to repeat that mistake if I can. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The local VW dealer has one in the show room, mostly restored. It's not for sale, and I don't think they drive it. On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: We saw some of those Things when we were in Hawaii last winter. A good vehicle for that climate. Randy -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No problem piling the grocery bags in the back seat of that [Checker]. You can get 27 paper boxes (cases) into the trunk and back seat of the 126 long body. Front seats unimpeded. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yeah, well, certainly you don't have to seek out a ford specialist at $125 an hour to throw 10 grand worth of parts at it hoping something sticks On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Aug 30, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the reason you buy a ford is not so much that its the greatest car there is, but there are parts everywhere cheap and anyone knows how to fix it. I would argue the anyone knows how to fix it. Good independent shops are a dying breed. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A twin turbo 1000hp 6bt with a triple overdrive for ridiculous low rpm highway cruising and 50mpg or better is what I had in mind..lol Why 50 mpg? It's a diesel, they're not quite as sensitive to RPM as a gasser. You can get a solid 25MPG in the truck if you keep it under 1800 RPM, which is (I've heard) its sweet spot. But 50? Also, do remember that at low RPM's the torque out of that engine is very 'lobey', it could beat your drivetrain to pieces. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Do you not have the option to get it insured as a classic? That way you can set a good payout that would keep the vandals from killing it, as you will be able to fund a rebuild. The parts are shared with the R107, so you should have a reasonable source of parts for a long while. Not so lucky with sheet metal. You might need to found a 114/115 rescue club to scour PnP for high quality body panels. clay On Aug 30, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: That is what I have the 76 115 300D for. It is the toy. The truck is the daily driver. I am already getting concerned that the 300D is too rare. Parts seem readily available but my concern is that it will be noticed because it is different and be targeted by vandals on parking lots etc. Not too much concern close by in the day time but leaving it out over night concerns me etc. If it were vandalized the insurance people would write it off in a minute. Randy On 30/08/2013 2:28 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Well duh, for a daily driver. Of which this is not. It is a toy, not a tool. Mike On Aug 30, 2013 3:20 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 30/08/2013 12:16 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: The Jeepster has quite a cult following due to it's rarity. What other vehicle could you get for 20 big ones that is as rare and in such nice shape? There really was less than 9k of them made. This is not the much more common Jeepster Commando that they made thousands and thousands of. It is a true collectors piece. Mike Maybe I have things backwards, but a rare car is the last thing that I want. When I buy parts, I like the vehicle to be as generic as it can be. The F150 is a good example. Generally, when I go to get parts, they have them on the shelf. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I disagree. I own nothing but Diesels of many types and every one but the Mercedes is very sensitive to RPM when efficiency is in mind. Only the Benz seems to like to rev and still get great figures. My Powerstroke will pull near 22 mpg if you never let it over 2000rpm while towing a 6500 pound truck. It gets 16 if you don't. My 6.2 will pull 25 empty @55mph but run 65 with no OD and it drops dramatically to 15. Google high mpg Cummins. There are trucks out there that will go like hell and are pulling 50+ empty. Mike On Aug 30, 2013 10:59 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: A twin turbo 1000hp 6bt with a triple overdrive for ridiculous low rpm highway cruising and 50mpg or better is what I had in mind..lol Why 50 mpg? It's a diesel, they're not quite as sensitive to RPM as a gasser. You can get a solid 25MPG in the truck if you keep it under 1800 RPM, which is (I've heard) its sweet spot. But 50? Also, do remember that at low RPM's the torque out of that engine is very 'lobey', it could beat your drivetrain to pieces. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Randy wrote: A Checker should have enough room to drop in a Cummins from a Dodge pickup truck. Minor point, the Cummins B-series, 6 cylinder, turbo (6BT) is used in Dodge pickups, but that's not the only place to find them. They were used in truck chassis up to class 6 at least. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
