The modified C-Clamp tool works just fine, we've replaced about six
sets now for our local indy mechanic with no trouble.
Had to beef it up a lot though.
We are considering the proper tool if we keep doing the job, it works
better.
Peter
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Now that is very interesting. I would actually consider buying one of
those 250s, that is amazing mpg from a e class, which is 50 times the
car of a stupid Prius.
On 5/25/2014 11:57 PM, Mitchell Haley, EA wrote:
Now that is very interesting. I would actually consider buying one of
those 250s, that is amazing mpg from a e class, which is 50 times the
car of a stupid Prius.
It'll have to be a 2014 if you want 45mpg hwy.
The 2013 is a e350 and rated 32mpg hwy. I guess the bluetick isn't as
efficient as
Despite what you paid for your car, fixing any car properly requires tools,
time, and good information, in addition to the parts.
There is an old expression, there is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes.
Either you pay upfront for a car that has been well cared for, or you pay
after for repairs.
People buy these cars for $500 then do not want to spend any money on them,
that is why they end up at the crusher.
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On May 26, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:
Despite what you paid for your car, fixing any car properly requires tools,
time,
Guy I know regularly exceeds 45 mpg in his E350. He drives with a very
light foot, but gets far better than the advertised mileage.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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I bet you could get 50 in the e250
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On May 26, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:
Guy I know regularly exceeds 45 mpg in his E350. He drives with a very
light foot, but gets far better than the advertised mileage.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
Or they end up at Okie Acres!
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
On May 26, 2014 11:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
People buy these cars for $500 then do not want to spend any money on
them, that is why they end up at the crusher.
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Never done one, think I need to on my 140. Do you just pull the whole shaft
then replace it? How does it come off? Ever since I pulled the engine to
replace that rod and head gasket I have had driveshaft vibration that is
sometimes there, sometimes not at all. I quit driving it because last
What are the modifications? Because of the ball joint being set in at an
angle, I don't see how a regular press can work well.
On May 26, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
The modified C-Clamp tool works just fine, we've replaced about
six
sets now for our local
Exactly, then I have to fix them or they end up crushed, same result.
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On May 26, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:
Or they end up at Okie Acres!
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
On May 26, 2014 11:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
Hope everyone is enjoying a beautiful day. Thanks to all my fellow
veterans for their sacrifice. One definition of a veteran: someone who
signed a blank check to his/her country, which read payable in full at any
time for any amount up to and including life itself.
Glad my check was never
I'll never forget when I purchased an AC compressor for a 1985 300CD from
Rusty back in '99. The tech installed it, but it didn't work. Rusty not
only replaced the part but credited me for the labor to R/R the defective
unit - no questions asked! What a guy. :)
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:16
If it's anything like earlier cars, you remove the shaft
from the car, then use a puller to get the bearing off
after you split the 2-piece shaft. Cautionary tale:
http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLdrive.html
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Meade Dillon wrote:
Guy I know regularly exceeds 45 mpg in his E350. He drives with a very
light foot, but gets far better than the advertised mileage.
The E250 got 40 mpg with Road and Track employees at the wheel, including a run
up to the top speed of a Prius. Imagine what it would do
IMO these were the most telling comments on the trial:
The earlier comment on differences between diesel fuel and gasoline are
worth repeating. A gallon of diesel fuel typical releases about 15% more
thermal energy than a gallon of gasoline when burned. So comparing
gallons of
Amen. Me, too.
Wilton
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I haven't done it either (but need to). The only thing I can add is to
ensure the front and back parts of the shaft go back together in exactly the
same splines as originally assembled or you'll have an imbalance problem.
So marl them unless there is an indexing mark already there. And for all I
Purists may not like this suggestion, but what I normally do before
taking any driveline apart is to use a spray paint can and make a line
down the joint from one shaft to the other. If one side has an orange
stripe and the other does not, it is difficult to put it together backwards.
On
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
Never done one, think I need to on my 140. Do you just pull the whole
shaft then replace it? How does it come off?
Yes - usually the bearing and the support come separately, you press
(hammer) the new bearing into
When I put the engine back in I had the vibration which was odd I thought as it
did not vibrate before, so I replaced the front flex disk, made no difference.
What was even more strange is sometimes it vibrates and sometimes it doesn't,
and it almost seems temp dependent on when it does it.
Could be a transmission mount, too. Does it vibrate only on
acceleration?
Rear flex disk could be bad too, although that usually won't cause
much vibration until it spits out a chunk or two.
Peter
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I did this job on a W115 240D the other day... It was fairly easy. Mark
the front and rear parts of the shaft as mentioned... I take a long
straight edge and run a line with a wax pencil across the two. Pull the
whole shaft, then separate it off the car. I was able to knock the old
bearing out
I bet... I drove a 4matic E250bt a few times and managed nearly 40mpg with
out even trying. Awesome car.
Jaime
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
I bet you could get 50 in the e250
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On May 26, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Meade Dillon
They need to do a cost comparison on the two cars. I'm sure the MB
costs a lot more, and the $/mi cost for fuel is a tad higher, and
overall cost of ownership is probably higher on the Benz. But I am sure
it is a much better ride when factoring in all the creature features.
--R
On 5/26/14
Rich Thomas wrote:
They need to do a cost comparison on the two cars. I'm sure the MB
costs a lot more, and the $/mi cost for fuel is a tad higher, and
overall cost of ownership is probably higher on the Benz. But I am sure
it is a much better ride when factoring in all the creature
My W140 does this at a narrow speed range (75-80) which also seems to be
dependent on road surface, believe it or not. I have the parts to do the job,
but it's a real pig to do on the W140, which is why I have put it off.
The only way you can get to the drive shaft and center bearing on the
All my mounts (motor, transmission) were replaced before this, too.
Dan
On May 26, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
My W140 does this at a narrow speed range (75-80) which also seems to be
dependent on road surface, believe it or not. I have the parts to do the
job, but it's a real
Maybe one of the pros will weigh in on this but here's what I found: I
needed to remove all the brake stuff from the knuckle, I needed to pop the
upper ball joint tapered shaft from the knuckle to swing the knuckle out
enough to clear the tool that pops out the lower ball joint tapered shaft
The right side of the R129 had a tick, so I figured one of the cam oiler tubes
had lost an end cap. Scored a set of the OE aluminum oiler tubes with new O
rings from someone at Benzworld, got the seals and chain guides a couple of
weeks ago at the dealer.
Did both sides along with new spark
I use a Dremel Moto Tool and a pointed grinding bit to make small
indentations on many parts that do better when put back together the
same way. Very little metal is removed so there is no balance problem.
Then I use a touchup stick from FLAPS and put a drop of paint in the
indents. The
Center punch works too. Make punch marks that match and they will remain.
On 26/05/2014 2:21 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
I use a Dremel Moto Tool and a pointed grinding bit to make small
indentations on many parts that do better when put back together the
same way. Very little metal
On this day of remembrance, the following is submitted to help us more
clearly remember.
THE WALL
By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
The tragedy of the Vietnam War is exceeded by only slavery and the Civil War
as this nation's greatest tragedy. Not only were thousands of fine, young
Yep, 'nother ATTABOY!
Wilt
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The right side of the R129 had a tick, so I figured one of the cam oiler
tubes had lost an
The factory reference points are dimples placed with a center punch on both
sides of the joint. Don't ask me how I know...
Dan
On May 26, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
Center punch works too. Make punch marks that match and they will remain.
Thanks Wilton!
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On this day of remembrance, the following is submitted to help us more
clearly
That was nice Wilton.
Sadly, we never seem to learn from past mistakes.
I am in the process of reading a trilogy of books about WWII by Rick
Atkinson. The first (An Army at Dawn) is about North Africa, the second
about Italy (The Day of Battle) and the third (The Guns at Last Light)
about
Thank you. That should be doable. Not going to get to it this weekend. other
projects
On May 26, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Maybe one of the pros will weigh in on this but here's what I
found: I
needed to remove all the brake stuff from the knuckle, I
Governments don't have memories. 'Seems to be always some young arrogant
whippersnapper in charge thinking he has all the answers, but has inadequate
knowledge of history.
Wilton
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Afghanistan may have been necessary at first, but after we chased Taliban
(let 'em get away) into sanctuary in Pakistan, we turned away from it,
unfinished, to go into Iraq unnecessarily, likely based on lies and 'cause
Saddam had tried to kill Boy Bush's Daddy.
Wilton
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Maybe, but the Prius has those expensive batteries, what is the life span of
those?
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On May 26, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
They need to do a cost comparison on the two cars. I'm sure the MB costs a
lot more, and the $/mi
Yes I did that as well
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On May 26, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
All my mounts (motor, transmission) were replaced before this, too.
Dan
On May 26, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
My W140 does this at a narrow speed range (75-80) which
Mine is a diesel and I do not see why the exhaust would have to come off.
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On May 26, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
My W140 does this at a narrow speed range (75-80) which also seems to be
dependent on road surface, believe it or not. I have the
Maybe the exhaust on the diesel is routed differently, but on the gas models
it's routed down the transmission tunnel below the driveshaft.
Shouldn't be too hard to figure out by looking underneath...
Dan
On May 26, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Mine is a diesel and I do not
Good point. It would be interesting to see life-cycle cost comparisons
of similar high-mileage (or would that be high fuel economy?) cars.
I rented a nice little diesel wagon in Spain a coupla years ago, I think
that thing was doing about 40mpg give or take if I recall, maybe high
30s. Was
I'm mine it runs to the passenger side of the trans tunnel
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On May 26, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
Maybe the exhaust on the diesel is routed differently, but on the gas models
it's routed down the transmission tunnel below the driveshaft.
I think, if it had been my decision, I would have taken note of what
happened to the Russians and said no thank you.
On 26/05/2014 3:57 PM, WILTON wrote:
Afghanistan may have been necessary at first, but after we chased
Taliban (let 'em get away) into sanctuary in Pakistan, we turned away
On Sun, 25 May 2014 14:56:30 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
Toggle on 25+ year old Sears shop vac died this week. Oldest son was
cleaning his car out and it apparently died.
Got around to checking out a replacement part from Sears. $24.00.
Heading to Radio Shack to find a
Viet Nam and Afghanistan share some some characteristics that should
make a thinking person hesitate to bite on them -- both of them have
broken many armies and many plans, and have never stayed occupied for
very long. Viet Nam was where the Chinese empire stopped, several
times, and both
Sad to say, but WW2 was the last war America fought to win. Every war since
then has been a Political Action that was run by Congress, who does not
understand how to fight to win, not Generals who do understand that to make
war you must fight to win. There are no holding actions .
Since 68 - 70
So the drive shaft is visible, and there are no heat shields?
Dan
On May 26, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I'm mine it runs to the passenger side of the trans tunnel
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Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com writes:
I attached a shot of the same area on my 126 300SD. I wonder if the rubber
block a previous fix on your car or if they changed the linkage design by
82?
My '83 300D has a similar setup to what you pictured. The linkage is
different on the W116, with
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Peter wrote:
Viet
Nam was where the Chinese empire stopped, several times, and both the Brits
and the Russians broke their teeth attempting to swallow Afghanistan.
Nice!!
Those seem the best places to live, perhaps.
Nobody is able or willing to conquer the people and land, and the land
and
There is a heat shield over the drive shaft that has I be removed but it
appears it can be removed with the exhaust in place.
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On May 26, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
So the drive shaft is visible, and there are no heat shields?
Dan
On May 26,
Well put, yes Vietnam was lost after WW1 when greedy big nations did not
want to let go of their stuff.
This is particularly disappointing insofar that France and the US are
both big champions of self rule and democracy.
Even after WW2 when France had a taste of what it is like to be occupied.
Post with attribution; no address.
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It may be different in the US market but here most M104 engines have the
722.5, some early ones do have the 722.3
Easy to tell, the 5 speed have this gear pattern
http://www.carshine.com.au/Pictures/Mercedes/Mercedes%20-%20W124%20-%20Chrome%20Gear%20Shift%20Frame%20(W126-11138).gif
The 4 speed
Well yeah it's horses for courses, for instance the pious was primarily
designed for the urban stop start market, not long distance tourer.
However to be fair they should compare the pious to an A class or such
of similar size.
The smallest Diesel we get here is the B200CDI which is rated at
On Mon, 26 May 2014 08:52:47 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
wrote:
If it's anything like earlier cars, you remove the shaft
from the car, then use a puller to get the bearing off
after you split the 2-piece shaft. Cautionary tale:
http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLdrive.html
On Mon, 26 May 2014 16:01:54 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
The factory reference points are dimples placed with a center punch on
both sides of the joint. Don't ask me how I know...
On May 26, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
Center punch works too. Make punch marks
On Tue, 27 May 2014 09:51:11 +0930 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com
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The 4 speed have this
http://www.carshine.com.au/Pictures/Mercedes/Mercedes%20-%20W124%20-%20Chrome%20Gear%20Shift%20Frame%20comp%20
(W124-49293).gif
The 124 104 has the 722.3, the 722.5 was in the 140 104
Our '95
You need to consider the entire life cycle of the cars - the MB will likely
go twice the number of miles that the Prius will - thus the cost
differences equal out. IIRC, Toyotaparts are often more expensive than the
corresponding MB parts, if you buy from other than the dealers.
Besides, it's not
That was my experience also - I cleaned it with spray brake cleaner then
applied a couple of dots of paint.
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
When I was re-doing our '82 240D/3.0, I tried marking the driveshaft with
a center punch. I could not make a dent
On 5/26/2014 9:13 PM, Craig wrote:
On Mon, 26 May 2014 16:01:54 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
The factory reference points are dimples placed with a center punch on
both sides of the joint. Don't ask me how I know...
On May 26, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
Center
How about http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLdline.html instead?
I shouldn't type links from memory.
-- Jim
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How about http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLdline.html instead?
Much better, thanks.
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WILTON: This is an exceptional essay, as always. I felt compelled to share
it with several family and friends. The younger generation needs to know
the real history and I doubt they get it in school. But senior citizens who
got all their information from the media need to read it too. Thanks.
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