Re: [MBZ] More heat pump

2021-02-17 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Odd. The gas heat/electric AC units I've had in the past had the AC coils upstream the fire box. I thought that was standard. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Mitch Haley via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 10:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc:

Re: [MBZ] Lid mills

2021-02-17 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Oh, and thank you effing autocorrect for looking at the subject the nanosecond before I mash send. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2021, at 8:28 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: > > Ludmilla wants to be my FB friend. How sweet. > > AzBob > > Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] Generator

2021-02-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Kim Hotstart is one of the most common suppliers of block heaters for stationary duty engines. -D > On Feb 16, 2021, at 9:53 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > Big Bertha has a Kim Hot-Start block heater on it, and some kind of > radiant bar mounted next to the oil pan. I've never

Re: [MBZ] Firewood

2021-02-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
My plan is essentially half of your pavilion, with a more shallow roof. The roof will be tin, I'll put strapping under it, no need for plywood. -Curt On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 10:35:50 PM EST, Jim Cathey wrote: I'm planning basically what you see there but 12 feet wide and 8

Re: [MBZ] Generator

2021-02-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Kim Hotstart is one of the most common suppliers of block heaters for > stationary duty engines. And, it's a local manufacturer! Made right here in Spokane. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question

2021-02-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
That's good news. I know people love the Honda units but I can't bear the price for the amount it would get used... -Curt On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 1:15:27 AM EST, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: I bought one of those 2KW inverter units from Harbor Freight a few years back: 

Re: [MBZ] Lid mills

2021-02-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I find the ones on Flikr the most interesting. I had a bunch of old vacation photos up there and suddenly half naked women start liking my photos and wanting to be my friend. Suure. -Curt On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 10:28:53 AM EST, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: Ludmilla

[MBZ] Lid mills

2021-02-17 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Ludmilla wants to be my FB friend. How sweet. AzBob Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Lid mills

2021-02-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Oh, and thank you effing autocorrect for looking at the subject the > nanosecond before I mash send. I turn it off on everything I possibly can. For those of us who can spell, it screws up far more often than it helps. I appreciate the red underline, I loathe changing what I type without

Re: [MBZ] Firewood

2021-02-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> My plan is essentially half of your pavilion, with a more shallow roof. The > roof will be tin, I'll put strapping under it, no need for plywood. The Paviliion was a napkin design, sketched until it 'looked right'. Once the proportions were set the roof was scaled so that it was sheets of

Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL Turbo Diesel - $1,200 (Longs SC)

2021-02-17 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I would sure like to see this rust he is talking about. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/longs-1991-mercedes-350sdl-turbo-diesel/7278617770.html > > -- > --FT > > >

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It's all relative - it almost felt warm this morning when I went out to feed the birds at +12°F compared to -12°F two days ago. When the average "cold" temp is 45, 29 will be very cold. On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 11:26 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I noticed that

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I think the truth is that both the "greedy" power companies and the "green" power forced by the government have a share of the blame, and so I would rewind the clock to a point in time when the green power was not there, and see if there were similar power outages in cold weather events. If

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>How come the experts (engineers) and the scientists are not listened to when >it comes to a basic need like electrical power? Because we are heading into another "Dark Ages". The age of enlightenment is over. Too pessimistic? Rick As a side project, do some research into what political

Re: [MBZ] More heat pump

2021-02-17 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
So here is a small example of the Texas situation.  Do you as a homeowner go out and spend say $10k to install a propane backup system, tie it into your heat pump system, for the minimal amount of time you might need it when the temps are below 10F or so, which happens infrequently, or do you

Re: [MBZ] More heat pump

2021-02-17 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
They do sell dual fuel models that have a gas furnace built in. I have not dug into it in depth as to exactly how much more expensive they are. In my case it would have to be setup for propane and would need to have a tank and line installed. I an ideal world i would install a tank, run the

Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL Turbo Diesel - $1,200 (Longs SC)

2021-02-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Either a diamond in the rough or a scam/swindle. On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 12:30 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > IF it runs, one would think he could have pulled it out into the > daylight for the photos. > > Randy > > On 17/02/2021 11:23 AM, Kaleb Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] Trip to Okie Acres

2021-02-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Langsam Nicht zu schnell On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 1:08 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What happened to the last one? I seem to recall that you bought one not > all that long ago and claimed to love it. > > Randy > > On 23/01/2021 11:02 AM, Donald Snook via

Re: [MBZ] Generator

2021-02-17 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
That's why I keep my old incandescent bulbs; heat. I have two bulbs near my well pump, which is in a below-ground concrete shelter and one in my barn where the water pipe enters from outside (all on plug-in thermostats). Back in the day of carbureted cars it was common to run a drop light

Re: [MBZ] Generator

2021-02-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
When Germany (IIRC) out-lawed incandescent bulbs, someone started selling them as heat globes without government interference. On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 4:42 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That's why I keep my old incandescent bulbs; heat. I have two bulbs near >

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Good points, I believe there is a Public Service Commission in Texas that "oversees" the power companies (to such an extent that that even works, witness SC for a shining example of failure), to keep the "greed" in check, more or less.  They in turn answer to the voters through their elected

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
IIRC in 2011 they had some similar cold weather and problems. I don't know if it was just overloading capacity or if "freezing equipment" was a part of it. At that time, the Texas grid was pretty much isolated from other regional grids. I think they have added some interconnects since then, but

Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
But, if you have a fire, they will deny coverage . . . On 17/02/2021 3:12 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I suppose it depends on whether you tell them that you installed one ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT LG Mini-split head unit inop

2021-02-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Marshall Booth (RIP) -D > On Feb 17, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > Well, let us see here . . . the old MB guru (cannot think of his name right > now) would have asked if you replaced the fuses > and Jim C would say you should have a close look at the capacitors >

Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I'm not aware of any additional insurance increases, although we have two fireplaces already, so I'm sure thats built into the premium. The wood burning insert is installed in one of the fireplaces. Its a masonry chimney in the center of the house with a stainless liner for the insert. Overall

Re: [MBZ] More heat pump

2021-02-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I would have thought natural gas would be cheaper where you live due to all the producing wells.. On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 3:21 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > One more thing, I will say it has been much cheaper with the heat pump > than in our other house which

[MBZ] OT: Battery powered trains auf Deutschland

2021-02-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
They can go where the overhead lines are lacking. https://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2021/02/16-railroad-development-corp-wins-contract-to-operate-battery-regional-trains-in-germany ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] More heat pump

2021-02-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You need to sponsor one of those Mexicans with expertise tapping into pipelines... On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 4:11 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > They like to charge us what they are going to charge you ... > There are two natural gas pipelines running on the west and north sides of > our

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Apparently they knew there would be problems ten years ago, but haven't had the will to do anything about it. This mostly stems from their latent desire to succeed from the union anyway, so why would they want federal involvement in their power generation/distribution? On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Perceived temperature are greatly influenced by sunshine, wind, and humidity. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Randy Bennell via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 12:40 PM To: OK Don via Mercedes Cc: Randy Bennell Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

Re: [MBZ] Backup Generators etc

2021-02-17 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Thanks for this. I considered moving the 3 ton downstairs heat pump and air handler (but not the 5KW aux heat strips) to the transfer switch but I didn't think the 15KW Generac would handle the start-up current. The generator runs the water heater just fine so I know it can handle the steady

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
So the reporting now is that pipes moving gas have frozen up, meters and sensors and such have frozen up, and all that mitigates against producing electrons at nukes and fossil PPs. None of that makes sense to me.  I can see where not having interconnections (which was the issue like 10yr ago

Re: [MBZ] Generator

2021-02-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I guess one could always run Jet-A - it's formulated to burn at very low temps, and it "only" $4.00/gal now. Don't know why I didn't think of that before ... On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 11:38 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > It was very close to -50F that night

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Yes, it's all very fishy from what they're telling us - smacks of gross incompetence. We had a single incidence of a "rolling blackout" due to the system not being able to meet demand - over a 14 state area. I lasted about an hour and 15 minutes. On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 4:50 PM Floyd Thursby via

Re: [MBZ] Is this a scam?

2021-02-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Buy one and let us know :-) On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 4:58 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] More heat pump

2021-02-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I'm amazed that you get any heat at all from that in temps below 20 deg F. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 2:08 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The label says 2008 it’s a 5 ton 13 seer IIRC. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 17, 2021,

Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question

2021-02-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Nice score! I've got a 3 inch 12v fan from an old UPS that I'm going to re-purpose as a ventilation fan, solar powered, in my sailboat. It draws some very small current, I'm thinking it is 25 mA or so. Planning to put a 50W panel on a controller to both charge the boat's deep cycle battery and

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>They pretend to listen during the election >campaign but so soon as they are >elected they do >whatever they think they want to without any real >>consideration of what we want. Close. The politicians do whatever they are paid to do by their true constituents, the lobbiests. Rick

Re: [MBZ] More heat pump

2021-02-17 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
One more thing, I will say it has been much cheaper with the heat pump than in our other house which is newer and smaller using gas. Our winter electric bill here is usually around $200 a month. Our electric bill there was probably around $130-160 and gas was about $160. So a slight increase in

Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Randy Bennell via Mercedes writes: > Around here, the insurance companies discourage any sort of wood > burning stove with demands for expensive inspections and higher > insurance charges. In my experience insurance is a bit higher if the home has a fireplace or indoor wood stove but it's not

Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 2:57 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Randy Bennell via Mercedes writes: > > > Around here, the insurance companies discourage any sort of wood > > burning stove with demands for expensive inspections and higher > > insurance charges. > > In

Re: [MBZ] OT LG Mini-split head unit inop

2021-02-17 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Turns out I ordered the wrong part, i read the code wrong or did not make the distinction -- I ordered a pipe thermistor (not thermocouple but I guess that is what it is) not an air thermistor which is what the code is for. I pulled the connector off the circuit board and tested the air

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
There has been an undercurrent of Texit since the civil war. On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 4:20 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The decisions that limit current Texas power sharing were made long before > anyone heard of TEXIT. > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find

Re: [MBZ] OT LG Mini-split head unit inop

2021-02-17 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Well, let us see here . . . the old MB guru (cannot think of his name right now) would have asked if you replaced the fuses and Jim C would say you should have a close look at the capacitors On 17/02/2021 4:08 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Turns out I ordered the wrong part, i read

Re: [MBZ] Generator

2021-02-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Growing up in Indiana that’s what we did if our car wasn’t parked in the garage. Run a drop light out under the garage door and put it under the oil pan, put a blanket over the top of the engine and close the hood. It usually did the trick. -D > On Feb 17, 2021, at 5:42 PM, Scott Ritchey via

Re: [MBZ] More heat pump

2021-02-17 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
This has been the first time dealing with a heat pump at this low of temps. Basically my observation is that is seems to heat fine without any aux heat at around 22 and above. From about 12 to 22 heats but uses aux heat occasionally. 6 to 12 heats but uses aux heat frequently. And below 6

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Probably, because politicians always think they know what is best for us. They pretend to listen during the election campaign but so soon as they are elected they do whatever they think they want to without any real consideration of what we want. On 17/02/2021 1:50 PM, Rick Knoble via

[MBZ] OT LG Mini-split head unit inop

2021-02-17 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
What with the talk of heat pumps and wood stoves, another conundrum... The head unit in my bedroom quit working some time ago, flashes a code when I start it up that supposedly indicates there is a bad thermocouple.  OK so I order a new one, like $10.  I am trying to hook it up and I see the

Re: [MBZ] More heat pump

2021-02-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
They like to charge us what they are going to charge you ... There are two natural gas pipelines running on the west and north sides of our airport, but they can't be bothered to run lines to our houses, so we get propane trucked in instead. On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 2:34 PM Andrew Strasfogel via

Re: [MBZ] OT LG Mini-split head unit inop

2021-02-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
First, check where the other end of the thermocouple wire goes and connects to the circuit board. Check the traces where it connects, etc. Second, if you want to use the new one, plaster heat sink grease (CPU?) on both and zip tie or wire wrap the new one onto the old one??? On Wed, Feb 17, 2021

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
That was my thought, exactly. Ignorance and superstition rule. Higher education has become nothing more than plush, overpriced re-education camps. Let the witch trials begin for anyone that rejects the new religion of GREEN. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Rick Knoble via

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
The decisions that limit current Texas power sharing were made long before anyone heard of TEXIT. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of OK Don via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 4:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: OK Don Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why

Re: [MBZ] More heat pump

2021-02-17 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I 'spect natural gas was a lot more costly then. The price has come WAY down since fracking (and will probably go way back up now). -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 3:21 PM To: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes Cc:

[MBZ] Is this a scam?

2021-02-17 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
That's a risk you have to be willing to take - don't have a fire caused by a burning wood fire. On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 4:52 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > But, if you have a fire, they will deny coverage . . . > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the

Re: [MBZ] Generator

2021-02-17 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
We did that for years out at the lake. Light bulbs heated the pump house and the crawl space under the house. I used to keep a stock of new ones and change them out about once each month in the cold weather. Never had any issues with them burning out and we would re-use the ones that I

[MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
During this ongoing discussion of emergency energy sources, several of you have commented on using wood stoves as sources of heat. How does this affect your insurance on the home? Around here, the insurance companies discourage any sort of wood burning stove with demands for expensive

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I checked with a buddy in the industry this morning, and he said that Texan’s power woes are of their own doing, and have little to nothing to do with wind turbines, which he said consist of less than 20% of their total grid output on a windy day. He said that Texas has been a bit “uppity”

Re: [MBZ] Backup Generators etc

2021-02-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
There are a number of soft start options. Look into them, they do work. I’ve considered one for my AC unit just to be nice to the generator, but I’ve got to square it away with my AC guys, since it’s a more or less brand new system. I don’t want to goof the warranty up. -D > On Feb 17, 2021,

Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Who is suggesting not telling them? You go to the agent to buy insurance, they ask questions about the house, including "does it have a fireplace?" They charge a higher premium but it's not really significant. And they've never (again, in my experience) inspected anything. Allan Randy Bennell

Re: [MBZ] Is this a scam?

2021-02-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Since the manufacturer wants $1490 for one, yes, that must be a scam. https://www.autoliftproduction.com/en-us/autolift3000 On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 5:04 PM OK Don wrote: > Buy one and let us know :-) > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 4:58 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com>

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread greg via Mercedes
My suspicion is that the "plan" is to use solar/wind in lieu of fossil backup, but that the fossil backup could not come online because of the freeze. If the fossil fuel plants had been running, they would not have frozen. My guess is that the media and the Js are probably lying that the fossil

Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
When we bought our house they didn't blink at the wood stove which is kind of weird, the installation that was here when we bought the place was abysmal. They were very concerned that we might have a trampoline. Our insurance expressly forbids a trampoline... -Curt On Wednesday, February

Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> The 4,000 SF Momolith in Indiana had a double-sided gas fireplace. My great aunt's house (the one who sold Columbia riverfront property next to the I-5 bridge) had a double-sided fireplace. One side faced the formal parlor, the room with the front door in it, and the other faced the living

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2021-02-17 19:25, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: “Js”? I think that's a reference to the Jackass party, as opposed to the Elephant party. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
You have an obligation to keep them informed of changes to the risk. Insurance companies are not friendly when a claim comes up and will look for any excuse. You might win in court but it may take years and cost a small fortune. Better to avoid  trouble and  do your best to comply. On

Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL Turbo Diesel - $1,200 (Longs SC)

2021-02-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Probably under the right corner of the rear window. > On Feb 17, 2021, at 12:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I would sure like to see this rust he is talking about. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 17, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >>

Re: [MBZ] Generator

2021-02-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Awhile ago my friend Lem who works as a Rolls Royce jet engine mechanic managed to score 100 gallons of JetA that was drained from planes and couldn't be reused. It works just great in Coleman lanterns. We all used the "Lem-o-naide" for a long time... -Curt On Wednesday, February 17,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>So a huge spike in demand means the price is infinite. Yep. The inverse is true also. Just like early last year when crude storage was full. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Texas is dark because it has a nearly completely unregulated electricity market that is not tied in to the rest of the grid so the Feds can't regulate anything. The result is that no one is responsible for ensuring there is enough juice when a plant goes down and since they are isolated from

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
“Js”? -D > On Feb 17, 2021, at 7:23 PM, greg via Mercedes wrote: > > My suspicion is that the "plan" is to use solar/wind in lieu of fossil > backup, but that the fossil backup could not come online because of the > freeze. If the fossil fuel plants had been running, they would not have >

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2021-02-17 17:45, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: There has been an undercurrent of Texit since the civil war. That was my thought. But I wonder if their grid independence streak is based on that afternoon about 15 years ago, when darn near the whole grid shut itself down, and nobody could

Re: [MBZ] New tool day

2021-02-17 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Good score Curt. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Wed, Feb 17, 2021, 9:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So I went to Home Depot today. Came home with a Makita drill and impact > driver set. The set I went with has the dreaded hammer drill. Its slightly > heavier

Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The 4,000 SF Momolith in Indiana had a double-sided gas fireplace. One side faced a two story “lawyer’s foyer” and the other side the kitchen. The stupidest fireplace installation I ever saw in my life, and completely worthless other than for visuals. Another example of more money than brains

[MBZ] Relative temperature

2021-02-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I was reminded of the comment about cold being relative when I headed for the gym tonight and thought "Well it's pretty warm, I don't need long pants." It was 24F... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] propane

2021-02-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Lots and lots of different sizes… https://www.propanetankstore.com/sizes-dot-5-lb-200-lb-tanks/ -D > On Feb 17, 2021, at 9:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've never seen a 30# tank before, I have seen 40# tanks.

Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've seen a couple of those, they really make me think of the early '70s... -Curt On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 9:34:10 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: In the early 1970s, we lived in a DIY built house. One thing the owner/builder did that I never saw anyplace else was a

Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Colonial houses had double fireplaces & single chimney Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Wed, Feb 17, 2021, 9:34 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > In the early 1970s, we lived in a DIY built house. > One thing the owner/builder did that I never saw anyplace else was a

Re: [MBZ] More heat pump

2021-02-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2021-02-17 15:15, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: They do sell dual fuel models that have a gas furnace built in. I have a typical propane and A/C system, except I installed a heat pump instead of A/C. Updraft furnace, with an A coil on top for refrigerant, typical looking condenser

Re: [MBZ] OT why Texas has gone dark

2021-02-17 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I get that. But it is a circular argument. You cannot say that gas stopped because the pumps lost power, but the pumps lost power because the gas stopped. In order for electric natural gas pumps to fail, he electricity first has to fail for some other reason than lack of gas for the power plant.

[MBZ] pure ignorance

2021-02-17 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
He was advised this has been done many times with not so good results, yet the dummy has to learn the lesson himself.  It is just unbelievable how completely moronic people are these days. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT: Here Is Why Texas Is Dark

2021-02-17 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Underlying it all is an unregulated market with no cap on the price. So a huge spike in demand means the price is infinite. No one is going to pay that. So the power generators get shut off because no one is buying the electricity they produce at the prevailing market price. All very predictable.

Re: [MBZ] More heat pump

2021-02-17 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>You need to sponsor one of those Mexicans with expertise tapping into >pipelines... Like these guys? https://youtu.be/FACTfixw7i4 https://youtu.be/_rgLSnhIfvY Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] propane

2021-02-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've never seen a 30# tank before, I have seen 40# tanks. Are Canadian propane tanks metric? 9kg? -Curt On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 6:41:09 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Something that was not said when you folks were talking about 20#and 100# propane tanks is that

[MBZ] New tool day

2021-02-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
So I went to Home Depot today. Came home with a Makita drill and impact driver set. The set I went with has the dreaded hammer drill. Its slightly heavier than the non-hammer variety but still lighter than my old drill. I like the hammer control, I'm unlikely to hit it by accident unlike my

Re: [MBZ] More heat pump

2021-02-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Like the 16 year old meth head kid around here who thought it was smart to drill into an anhydrous ammonia transmission line so he could get some to make meth. What made it worse was that he was in a service pit where some valves were located, so he couldn’t get out in a hurry. We have a couple

Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
In the early 1970s, we lived in a DIY built house. One thing the owner/builder did that I never saw anyplace else was a huge brick fireplace in the middle of the wall between the living room and the dining room. It was open on both sides, so you could enjoy the fire in either room. I can

Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Our Federal period house had a fireplace on 1st & 2nd floors with common chimney. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Wed, Feb 17, 2021, 9:36 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I've seen a couple of those, they really make me think of the early > '70s... > -Curt > >

Re: [MBZ] OT why Texas has gone dark

2021-02-17 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
All of that said, there's a component of unreadiness by the individual citizens as well. We're always told to have blankets, water, food, etc. for emergencies. Most people don't. I'm as guilty as anyone for not thinking about this very often. I could survive a week at home without power, I have

Re: [MBZ] pure ignorance

2021-02-17 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
That’s the guy that bends cheap wrenches and sells them for $35 --FT Sent from iPhone > On Feb 17, 2021, at 11:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > He was advised this has been done many times with not so good results, yet > the dummy has to learn the lesson himself. It is just

[MBZ] propane

2021-02-17 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Something that was not said when you folks were talking about 20#and 100# propane tanks is that there are also 30# tanks - often used on travel trailers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Actually what I was thinking of were glass fireplaces that had doors on opposite sides so it'd look like two different rooms had fireplaces... -Curt On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 9:40:26 PM EST, Dwight Giles wrote: Our Federal period house had a fireplace on 1st & 2nd floors with

Re: [MBZ] propane

2021-02-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I've never seen a 30# tank before, Our newer camper has two of them in it. My Dad's and my brother's Airstreams each had two of them, though those were aluminum not steel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT LG Mini-split head unit inop

2021-02-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I decided to test the new one [thermocouple?] and the old one. The new one > was showing like 5.6ohms which doesn't suggest a failed component, and the > new one was like 5.1ohm Thermocouples are not resistance elements, they generate voltage. Thermistors are resistance elements, but I don't

Re: [MBZ] propane

2021-02-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I guess it makes sense that I've never seen one. I don't know much of anything about campers other than there is a key on my keyring (which is in the other room or I'd read the number off it) which opens just about every compartment in every camper. $3 for 2 on eBay. Real fun at campouts...

Re: [MBZ] wood stoves

2021-02-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2021-02-17 21:43, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Actually what I was thinking of were glass fireplaces that had doors on opposite sides so it'd look like two different rooms had fireplaces... -Curt Ours didn't have doors, just screens/steel curtains. Not good for efficiency, but better

Re: [MBZ] Is this a scam?

2021-02-17 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Clever design. On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 4:09 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Since the manufacturer wants $1490 for one, yes, that must be a scam. > > https://www.autoliftproduction.com/en-us/autolift3000 > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 5:04 PM OK Don wrote: > > > Buy one and let us know :-) > >

Re: [MBZ] OT why Texas has gone dark

2021-02-17 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>I get that. But it is a circular argument. You cannot say that gas stopped >because the pumps lost power, but the pumps lost power because the gas stopped. I will restate. This is not a circular argument. The original natural gas pumps did NOT USE ELECTRICITY. They were powered by natural

[MBZ] someone needs this 2011 MERCEDES MOBILE VAN BOUTIQUE - $21, 565 (Charlotte)

2021-02-17 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-2011-mercedes-mobile-van/7278540630.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Trip to Okie Acres

2021-02-17 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
What happened to the last one? I seem to recall that you bought one not all that long ago and claimed to love it. Randy On 23/01/2021 11:02 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: It wouldn’t be a real road trip if I didn’t get delayed! Stuck in DFW for 2 hours. But, Kaleb has very graciously

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