Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[MG via Mercedes]

And if it does will it or any 5 speed auto fit into an 83?


Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 23:26:18 -0400
From: Max Dillon 




'87 SDL has a five speed?



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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[clay via Mercedes]

He was incorrect.  The SE was the last year of the 722.3xx transmission.  The 
1993 had the 722.5

clay

> On Sep 26, 2016, at 8:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> naa, they are mixing apples and oranges.
> 
> Kleb meant the 92 140 has a 722.5 The SDL should have a 722.3.
> 
> 
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> September 26, 2016 at 10:26 PM
>> '87 SDL has a five speed?
>> clay via Mercedes 
>> September 26, 2016 at 10:00 PM
>> So far I am still not finding why one transmission in the 722.3xx family is 
>> any more gooder than the next. #1 boy has a 722.3 in the 92 SE, and there 
>> was all manner of butt hurt about finding the ONE that was going to work in 
>> his car. Like it was made of mixed race/converted jewish foreskins. I 
>> suspect the SDL and the OM603 300D use the same darn transmission. Not sure 
>> the 260E of that era, or the 300E are any less the same.
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>> September 26, 2016 at 8:07 AM
>> Your SDL transmission has a vacuum modulator on the side, which might be
>> different for a gasser? Maybe the gearing is different, or the stall
>> rating of the torque converter? I know that for some years, the gasser
>> transmissions would launch in 2nd gear vice 1st?
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:27 PM, clay via Mercedes 
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>> clay via Mercedes 
>> September 23, 2016 at 10:27 PM
>> Are the 722.3xx transmissions pretty much all the same thing? If not, what 
>> makes them be not the same? I thought there must be some magical change that 
>> makes one living in my SDL be not what could be used in the 92 300SE
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Curley McLain 
>> September 23, 2016 at 11:02 AM
>> Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to exist in 
>> the land of unicorns.   If it bolts up to a OM602, it should bolt up to a 
>> OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have the whole donor car, 
>> there may be enough parts there to make it work.  Maybe even enough to make 
>> it work on a 123.
>> 
>> However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem can go 
>> away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money.  See the CCF.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[clay via Mercedes]

The 300SE has a 722.3xx transmission, as that is what was removed and was 
installed in the car as replacement.

clay



> On Sep 26, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> He said it was a 92 SE 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2016, at 10:26 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> '87 SDL has a five speed?
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>>> On September 26, 2016 11:11:07 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> That car does not have a 722.3, it's the 5 speed 722.5 iirc
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Sep 26, 2016, at 10:00 PM, clay via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
 So far I am still not finding why one transmission in the 722.3xx
>>> family is any more gooder than the next.  #1 boy has a 722.3 in the 92
>>> SE, and there was all manner of butt hurt about finding the ONE that
>>> was going to work in his car.  Like it was made of mixed race/converted
>>> jewish foreskins.  I suspect the SDL and the OM603 300D use the same
>>> darn transmission.  Not sure the 260E of that era, or the 300E are any
>>> less the same.
 
 
 clay 
 
 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
 1986 SDL - Polei
 
 retired models-
 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
> On Sep 26, 2016, at 6:07 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
> 
> Your SDL transmission has a vacuum modulator on the side, which
>>> might be
> different for a gasser?  Maybe the gearing is different, or the
>>> stall
> rating of the torque converter?  I know that for some years, the
>>> gasser
> transmissions would launch in 2nd gear vice 1st?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:27 PM, clay via Mercedes
>>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Are the 722.3xx transmissions pretty much all the same thing?  If
>>> not,
>> what makes them be not the same?  I thought there must be some
>>> magical
>> change that makes one living in my SDL be not what could be used in
>>> the 92
>> 300SE
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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[clay via Mercedes]

The SDL has a 722.321 transmission.  I think Kaleb was thinking about the 280E

clay

> On Sep 26, 2016, at 8:26 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> '87 SDL has a five speed?
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On September 26, 2016 11:11:07 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
>> That car does not have a 722.3, it's the 5 speed 722.5 iirc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 26, 2016, at 10:00 PM, clay via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So far I am still not finding why one transmission in the 722.3xx
>> family is any more gooder than the next.  #1 boy has a 722.3 in the 92
>> SE, and there was all manner of butt hurt about finding the ONE that
>> was going to work in his car.  Like it was made of mixed race/converted
>> jewish foreskins.  I suspect the SDL and the OM603 300D use the same
>> darn transmission.  Not sure the 260E of that era, or the 300E are any
>> less the same.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> clay 
>>> 
>>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>>> 
>>> retired models-
>>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 26, 2016, at 6:07 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
 
 Your SDL transmission has a vacuum modulator on the side, which
>> might be
 different for a gasser?  Maybe the gearing is different, or the
>> stall
 rating of the torque converter?  I know that for some years, the
>> gasser
 transmissions would launch in 2nd gear vice 1st?
 
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
 
 On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:27 PM, clay via Mercedes
>> 
 wrote:
 
> Are the 722.3xx transmissions pretty much all the same thing?  If
>> not,
> what makes them be not the same?  I thought there must be some
>> magical
> change that makes one living in my SDL be not what could be used in
>> the 92
> 300SE
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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Nope your're good


Max Dillon via Mercedes 
September 26, 2016 at 10:35 PM
My bad.
Max Dillon via Mercedes 
September 26, 2016 at 10:26 PM
'87 SDL has a five speed?
clay via Mercedes 
September 26, 2016 at 10:00 PM
So far I am still not finding why one transmission in the 722.3xx 
family is any more gooder than the next. #1 boy has a 722.3 in the 92 
SE, and there was all manner of butt hurt about finding the ONE that 
was going to work in his car. Like it was made of mixed race/converted 
jewish foreskins. I suspect the SDL and the OM603 300D use the same 
darn transmission. Not sure the 260E of that era, or the 300E are any 
less the same.



clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers









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Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
September 26, 2016 at 8:07 AM
Your SDL transmission has a vacuum modulator on the side, which might be
different for a gasser? Maybe the gearing is different, or the stall
rating of the torque converter? I know that for some years, the gasser
transmissions would launch in 2nd gear vice 1st?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:27 PM, clay via Mercedes 


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clay via Mercedes 
September 23, 2016 at 10:27 PM
Are the 722.3xx transmissions pretty much all the same thing? If not, 
what makes them be not the same? I thought there must be some magical 
change that makes one living in my SDL be not what could be used in 
the 92 300SE


clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

My bad.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 26, 2016 11:33:33 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>Right 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 26, 2016, at 10:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> naa, they are mixing apples and oranges.
>> 
>> Kleb meant the 92 140 has a 722.5 The SDL should have a 722.3.
>> 
>> 
>>> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>> September 26, 2016 at 10:26 PM
>>> '87 SDL has a five speed?
>>> clay via Mercedes 
>>> September 26, 2016 at 10:00 PM
>>> So far I am still not finding why one transmission in the 722.3xx
>family is any more gooder than the next. #1 boy has a 722.3 in the 92
>SE, and there was all manner of butt hurt about finding the ONE that
>was going to work in his car. Like it was made of mixed race/converted
>jewish foreskins. I suspect the SDL and the OM603 300D use the same
>darn transmission. Not sure the 260E of that era, or the 300E are any
>less the same.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>>> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
>>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>>> 
>>> retired models-
>>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>> September 26, 2016 at 8:07 AM
>>> Your SDL transmission has a vacuum modulator on the side, which
>might be
>>> different for a gasser? Maybe the gearing is different, or the stall
>>> rating of the torque converter? I know that for some years, the
>gasser
>>> transmissions would launch in 2nd gear vice 1st?
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:27 PM, clay via Mercedes
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>>> clay via Mercedes 
>>> September 23, 2016 at 10:27 PM
>>> Are the 722.3xx transmissions pretty much all the same thing? If
>not, what makes them be not the same? I thought there must be some
>magical change that makes one living in my SDL be not what could be
>used in the 92 300SE
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>>> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
>>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>>> 
>>> retired models-
>>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Curley McLain 
>>> September 23, 2016 at 11:02 AM
>>> Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to
>exist in the land of unicorns.   If it bolts up to a OM602, it should
>bolt up to a OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have
>the whole donor car, there may be enough parts there to make it work. 
>Maybe even enough to make it work on a 123.
>>> 
>>> However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem
>can go away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money.  See
>the CCF.
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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

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Right 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2016, at 10:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> naa, they are mixing apples and oranges.
> 
> Kleb meant the 92 140 has a 722.5 The SDL should have a 722.3.
> 
> 
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> September 26, 2016 at 10:26 PM
>> '87 SDL has a five speed?
>> clay via Mercedes 
>> September 26, 2016 at 10:00 PM
>> So far I am still not finding why one transmission in the 722.3xx family is 
>> any more gooder than the next. #1 boy has a 722.3 in the 92 SE, and there 
>> was all manner of butt hurt about finding the ONE that was going to work in 
>> his car. Like it was made of mixed race/converted jewish foreskins. I 
>> suspect the SDL and the OM603 300D use the same darn transmission. Not sure 
>> the 260E of that era, or the 300E are any less the same.
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>> September 26, 2016 at 8:07 AM
>> Your SDL transmission has a vacuum modulator on the side, which might be
>> different for a gasser? Maybe the gearing is different, or the stall
>> rating of the torque converter? I know that for some years, the gasser
>> transmissions would launch in 2nd gear vice 1st?
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:27 PM, clay via Mercedes 
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>> clay via Mercedes 
>> September 23, 2016 at 10:27 PM
>> Are the 722.3xx transmissions pretty much all the same thing? If not, what 
>> makes them be not the same? I thought there must be some magical change that 
>> makes one living in my SDL be not what could be used in the 92 300SE
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Curley McLain 
>> September 23, 2016 at 11:02 AM
>> Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to exist in 
>> the land of unicorns.   If it bolts up to a OM602, it should bolt up to a 
>> OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have the whole donor car, 
>> there may be enough parts there to make it work.  Maybe even enough to make 
>> it work on a 123.
>> 
>> However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem can go 
>> away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money.  See the CCF.
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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

naa, they are mixing apples and oranges.

Kleb meant the 92 140 has a 722.5 The SDL should have a 722.3.



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
September 26, 2016 at 10:26 PM
'87 SDL has a five speed?
clay via Mercedes 
September 26, 2016 at 10:00 PM
So far I am still not finding why one transmission in the 722.3xx 
family is any more gooder than the next. #1 boy has a 722.3 in the 92 
SE, and there was all manner of butt hurt about finding the ONE that 
was going to work in his car. Like it was made of mixed race/converted 
jewish foreskins. I suspect the SDL and the OM603 300D use the same 
darn transmission. Not sure the 260E of that era, or the 300E are any 
less the same.



clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers









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Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
September 26, 2016 at 8:07 AM
Your SDL transmission has a vacuum modulator on the side, which might be
different for a gasser? Maybe the gearing is different, or the stall
rating of the torque converter? I know that for some years, the gasser
transmissions would launch in 2nd gear vice 1st?

-
Max
Charleston SC

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clay via Mercedes 
September 23, 2016 at 10:27 PM
Are the 722.3xx transmissions pretty much all the same thing? If not, 
what makes them be not the same? I thought there must be some magical 
change that makes one living in my SDL be not what could be used in 
the 92 300SE


clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Curley McLain 
September 23, 2016 at 11:02 AM
Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to 
exist in the land of unicorns.   If it bolts up to a OM602, it should 
bolt up to a OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have 
the whole donor car, there may be enough parts there to make it work.  
Maybe even enough to make it work on a 123.


However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem 
can go away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money.  
See the CCF.





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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

He said it was a 92 SE 

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> On Sep 26, 2016, at 10:26 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> '87 SDL has a five speed?
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On September 26, 2016 11:11:07 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> That car does not have a 722.3, it's the 5 speed 722.5 iirc
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 26, 2016, at 10:00 PM, clay via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So far I am still not finding why one transmission in the 722.3xx
>> family is any more gooder than the next.  #1 boy has a 722.3 in the 92
>> SE, and there was all manner of butt hurt about finding the ONE that
>> was going to work in his car.  Like it was made of mixed race/converted
>> jewish foreskins.  I suspect the SDL and the OM603 300D use the same
>> darn transmission.  Not sure the 260E of that era, or the 300E are any
>> less the same.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> clay 
>>> 
>>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>>> 
>>> retired models-
>>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 26, 2016, at 6:07 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
 
 Your SDL transmission has a vacuum modulator on the side, which
>> might be
 different for a gasser?  Maybe the gearing is different, or the
>> stall
 rating of the torque converter?  I know that for some years, the
>> gasser
 transmissions would launch in 2nd gear vice 1st?
 
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
 
 On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:27 PM, clay via Mercedes
>> 
 wrote:
 
> Are the 722.3xx transmissions pretty much all the same thing?  If
>> not,
> what makes them be not the same?  I thought there must be some
>> magical
> change that makes one living in my SDL be not what could be used in
>> the 92
> 300SE
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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

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The only body I know who might know would be at Sun Valley, unless Dave 
M has some handy dandy table.   Each variant has so me difference, or 
else they would not have 6 digit type numbers.  So a 722.3 could have up 
to a hundred variants.



clay via Mercedes 
September 26, 2016 at 10:00 PM
So far I am still not finding why one transmission in the 722.3xx 
family is any more gooder than the next. #1 boy has a 722.3 in the 92 
SE, and there was all manner of butt hurt about finding the ONE that 
was going to work in his car. Like it was made of mixed race/converted 
jewish foreskins. I suspect the SDL and the OM603 300D use the same 
darn transmission. Not sure the 260E of that era, or the 300E are any 
less the same.



clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers









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Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
September 26, 2016 at 8:07 AM
Your SDL transmission has a vacuum modulator on the side, which might be
different for a gasser? Maybe the gearing is different, or the stall
rating of the torque converter? I know that for some years, the gasser
transmissions would launch in 2nd gear vice 1st?

-
Max
Charleston SC

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clay via Mercedes 
September 23, 2016 at 10:27 PM
Are the 722.3xx transmissions pretty much all the same thing? If not, 
what makes them be not the same? I thought there must be some magical 
change that makes one living in my SDL be not what could be used in 
the 92 300SE


clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Curley McLain 
September 23, 2016 at 11:02 AM
Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to 
exist in the land of unicorns.   If it bolts up to a OM602, it should 
bolt up to a OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have 
the whole donor car, there may be enough parts there to make it work.  
Maybe even enough to make it work on a 123.


However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem 
can go away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money.  
See the CCF.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
September 23, 2016 at 10:49 AM
Could you potentially put the 5spd from a 190 into a 124 300D? That'd 
be a pretty fun car to drive.

-Curt

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

Sun Valley is the only place I'd ever get a rebuilt/new MB auto trans
from.  Any place else is a crapshoot and probably a waste of money.  For
a bottom feeder car, i'd try a junkyard used auto trans or convert to 4
speed.


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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

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'87 SDL has a five speed?
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 26, 2016 11:11:07 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>That car does not have a 722.3, it's the 5 speed 722.5 iirc
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 26, 2016, at 10:00 PM, clay via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> So far I am still not finding why one transmission in the 722.3xx
>family is any more gooder than the next.  #1 boy has a 722.3 in the 92
>SE, and there was all manner of butt hurt about finding the ONE that
>was going to work in his car.  Like it was made of mixed race/converted
>jewish foreskins.  I suspect the SDL and the OM603 300D use the same
>darn transmission.  Not sure the 260E of that era, or the 300E are any
>less the same.
>> 
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 26, 2016, at 6:07 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your SDL transmission has a vacuum modulator on the side, which
>might be
>>> different for a gasser?  Maybe the gearing is different, or the
>stall
>>> rating of the torque converter?  I know that for some years, the
>gasser
>>> transmissions would launch in 2nd gear vice 1st?
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:27 PM, clay via Mercedes
>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Are the 722.3xx transmissions pretty much all the same thing?  If
>not,
 what makes them be not the same?  I thought there must be some
>magical
 change that makes one living in my SDL be not what could be used in
>the 92
 300SE
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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

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That car does not have a 722.3, it's the 5 speed 722.5 iirc

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2016, at 10:00 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> So far I am still not finding why one transmission in the 722.3xx family is 
> any more gooder than the next.  #1 boy has a 722.3 in the 92 SE, and there 
> was all manner of butt hurt about finding the ONE that was going to work in 
> his car.  Like it was made of mixed race/converted jewish foreskins.  I 
> suspect the SDL and the OM603 300D use the same darn transmission.  Not sure 
> the 260E of that era, or the 300E are any less the same.
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 
> retired models-
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2016, at 6:07 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Your SDL transmission has a vacuum modulator on the side, which might be
>> different for a gasser?  Maybe the gearing is different, or the stall
>> rating of the torque converter?  I know that for some years, the gasser
>> transmissions would launch in 2nd gear vice 1st?
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:27 PM, clay via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Are the 722.3xx transmissions pretty much all the same thing?  If not,
>>> what makes them be not the same?  I thought there must be some magical
>>> change that makes one living in my SDL be not what could be used in the 92
>>> 300SE
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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

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So far I am still not finding why one transmission in the 722.3xx family is any 
more gooder than the next.  #1 boy has a 722.3 in the 92 SE, and there was all 
manner of butt hurt about finding the ONE that was going to work in his car.  
Like it was made of mixed race/converted jewish foreskins.  I suspect the SDL 
and the OM603 300D use the same darn transmission.  Not sure the 260E of that 
era, or the 300E are any less the same.


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








> On Sep 26, 2016, at 6:07 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Your SDL transmission has a vacuum modulator on the side, which might be
> different for a gasser?  Maybe the gearing is different, or the stall
> rating of the torque converter?  I know that for some years, the gasser
> transmissions would launch in 2nd gear vice 1st?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:27 PM, clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Are the 722.3xx transmissions pretty much all the same thing?  If not,
>> what makes them be not the same?  I thought there must be some magical
>> change that makes one living in my SDL be not what could be used in the 92
>> 300SE
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Your SDL transmission has a vacuum modulator on the side, which might be
different for a gasser?  Maybe the gearing is different, or the stall
rating of the torque converter?  I know that for some years, the gasser
transmissions would launch in 2nd gear vice 1st?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:27 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Are the 722.3xx transmissions pretty much all the same thing?  If not,
> what makes them be not the same?  I thought there must be some magical
> change that makes one living in my SDL be not what could be used in the 92
> 300SE
>
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[clay via Mercedes]

Are the 722.3xx transmissions pretty much all the same thing?  If not, what 
makes them be not the same?  I thought there must be some magical change that 
makes one living in my SDL be not what could be used in the 92 300SE

clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








> On Sep 23, 2016, at 9:02 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to exist in 
> the land of unicorns.   If it bolts up to a OM602, it should bolt up to a 
> OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have the whole donor car, 
> there may be enough parts there to make it work.  Maybe even enough to make 
> it work on a 123.
> 
> However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem can go 
> away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money.  See the CCF.
> 
>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> September 23, 2016 at 10:49 AM
>> Could you potentially put the 5spd from a 190 into a 124 300D? That'd be a 
>> pretty fun car to drive.
>> -Curt
> 
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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

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> On September 23, 2016 at 2:54 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> This reminds me of a site visit I paid to a federal contractor on the 
> South Side of Chitcago many years ago.  They were doing some kind of 
> software testing (supposedly). 

Does that mean you've seen how they do it The Chicago Way?
Makes you glad we've had two Chitcago politicians in the white house in the last
8 years, doesn't it? At least we got Rahm out of DC and back to infesting
Chitcago in less than 8 years. 

Mitch.

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Y'all can set up the shell corporation that will "hold" all the assets.  
I hear Panama is pleasant, find a local law firm not that big one.  Find 
some local property in a "disadvantaged" area or one of those local 
special economic zones.


I can do the proposal, we need to get it in before Nov 8 when Hope 
Changes to disappointment.


This reminds me of a site visit I paid to a federal contractor on the 
South Side of Chitcago many years ago.  They were doing some kind of 
software testing (supposedly). We drove by the supposed address several 
times then finally realized it was a warehouse behind a tall fence with 
razor wire and a guard tower at the gate.  We thought it was a jail or 
something, but was more to keep the criminals out rather than in.  So we 
finally get buzzed in and drive around the property looking for 
something that looks like an office, finally decide the only way in was 
a small glass door in the front side, with one window.  We go in, there 
are 3 or 4 broken chairs, like plastic and lawn chairs in the "lobby."  
There is another locked door, we bang on that for some time, finally 
some young guy comes and opens it, steps out into the "lobby."  We 
introduce ourselves (me, another colleague, some military guy, and some 
civilian gummint guy).  He finally says he will take us back to where 
the work is being done (securely, supposedly).  We go through the door 
into an empty warehouse, fairly sizable, with one plastic folding table 
sitting kinda in the middle with a computer and monitor on it.  It was 
not plugged into anything.  The visit kinda went downhill from there, 
this kid had no idea what was going on, he had just been told to show up 
there, set up this "facility" and show us around, which took no more 
than 30sec.


So we leave, the gummint guys want to stop somewhere to make phone calls 
(pre-cell phone) so we find a fast food place somewhere nearby (the 
military guy "looked like them" so that kinda helped us crackas there).  
They come back in awhile and tell us the FBI had raided the place a week 
or two before, hauled off everything.  The president of the company 
(DBE) had been arrested but was out on bail or something and had his 
"employee" set this visit up.  No one had bothered to tell the project 
manager, this military guy.  Oh well.  Turns out the company owner was 
connected to some City Council member who represented this area, his 
brother or something, and was running various local scams until he got 
on to the federal DBE gravy train.  Unfortunately he was not aware that 
the feds play by very different rules...


So we were pretty much done by 10AM, the military guy, a young 
lieutenant, had lived not far away so we dropped him off at his mother's 
place and we had the rest of the day to kill to wait for our flight that 
evening back to Boston.  The other gummint guy was all noodgy, thinking 
he was not going to get paid for the day since he wasn't "working."  We 
finally got him organized and went downtown and did some sight-seeing 
and a nice long lunch before heading back to ORD.


--FT (I'm with H->er!)


On 9/23/16 2:20 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

I'm in.  Where do I sign up?

Dan maybe I will take that TruCoat after all

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On Sep 23, 2016, at 2:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

What you need to do is call the project an Energy Saving Global Climate Disruption 
Undisruptor, apply to DoE for a grant of, say, $583,617 to explore the options and do a 
prototype.  Take out a short-term loan to donate $100k to the CCF which you can repay as 
an expense on the grant when you get it a coupla weeks later. You'll need a fleet car, 
say a nice gray market GL dizzel, for testing and such.  You'll need to fly to 
Deutscheland to get it, should take 2-3 weeks and of course you will have to go various 
places to find one, stay at nice hotels, eat and drink well.  You can stop at some 
automotive recycling facilities (aka "kaput yards") to look for some bits too, 
these are necessary materials.

The optimum outcome is to spend all the money while paying yourself a high salary, never 
accomplish the task due to "economic factors" or something (your proposal will 
include this possibility) so that the research vehicle and bits you collect and the 
facility you need to build to work on the project, which would be like a 4-bay garage 
with AC and a 2-post lift and a nice set of tools in a big rolling box, air compressor, 
all that stuff, revert to the contractor you hired the facility and other stuff from 
(that would be you, through an offshore subsidiary set up in some economically-deprived 
country where you get more points and credits and the CCF can say they spent money there, 
which would be the money you gave them to fund your initial garage acquisition).

You guys have no vision.

--R



On 9/23/16 12:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Clin ton C Rime Foundation   CCF


Curt Raymond via 

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[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I'm in.  Where do I sign up?

Dan maybe I will take that TruCoat after all

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> On Sep 23, 2016, at 2:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What you need to do is call the project an Energy Saving Global Climate 
> Disruption Undisruptor, apply to DoE for a grant of, say, $583,617 to explore 
> the options and do a prototype.  Take out a short-term loan to donate $100k 
> to the CCF which you can repay as an expense on the grant when you get it a 
> coupla weeks later. You'll need a fleet car, say a nice gray market GL 
> dizzel, for testing and such.  You'll need to fly to Deutscheland to get it, 
> should take 2-3 weeks and of course you will have to go various places to 
> find one, stay at nice hotels, eat and drink well.  You can stop at some 
> automotive recycling facilities (aka "kaput yards") to look for some bits 
> too, these are necessary materials.
> 
> The optimum outcome is to spend all the money while paying yourself a high 
> salary, never accomplish the task due to "economic factors" or something 
> (your proposal will include this possibility) so that the research vehicle 
> and bits you collect and the facility you need to build to work on the 
> project, which would be like a 4-bay garage with AC and a 2-post lift and a 
> nice set of tools in a big rolling box, air compressor, all that stuff, 
> revert to the contractor you hired the facility and other stuff from (that 
> would be you, through an offshore subsidiary set up in some 
> economically-deprived country where you get more points and credits and the 
> CCF can say they spent money there, which would be the money you gave them to 
> fund your initial garage acquisition).
> 
> You guys have no vision.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 9/23/16 12:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> Clin ton C Rime Foundation   CCF
>> 
>>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>> September 23, 2016 at 11:05 AM
>>> CCF, the Coleman Collectors Forum?
>>> 5spd makes a 601 nice, not half as much fun with a 4spd auto.
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

How much do you charge to write the grant proposal and preliminaries?


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
September 23, 2016 at 1:10 PM
What you need to do is call the project an Energy Saving Global 
Climate Disruption Undisruptor, apply to DoE for a grant of, say, 
$583,617 to explore the options and do a prototype.  Take out a 
short-term loan to donate $100k to the CCF which you can repay as an 
expense on the grant when you get it a coupla weeks later. You'll need 
a fleet car, say a nice gray market GL dizzel, for testing and such.  
You'll need to fly to Deutscheland to get it, should take 2-3 weeks 
and of course you will have to go various places to find one, stay at 
nice hotels, eat and drink well.  You can stop at some automotive 
recycling facilities (aka "kaput yards") to look for some bits too, 
these are necessary materials.


The optimum outcome is to spend all the money while paying yourself a 
high salary, never accomplish the task due to "economic factors" or 
something (your proposal will include this possibility) so that the 
research vehicle and bits you collect and the facility you need to 
build to work on the project, which would be like a 4-bay garage with 
AC and a 2-post lift and a nice set of tools in a big rolling box, air 
compressor, all that stuff, revert to the contractor you hired the 
facility and other stuff from (that would be you, through an offshore 
subsidiary set up in some economically-deprived country where you get 
more points and credits and the CCF can say they spent money there, 
which would be the money you gave them to fund your initial garage 
acquisition).


You guys have no vision.

--R




Curley McLain 
September 23, 2016 at 11:33 AM
Clin ton C Rime Foundation   CCF


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
September 23, 2016 at 11:05 AM
CCF, the Coleman Collectors Forum?
5spd makes a 601 nice, not half as much fun with a 4spd auto.
-Curt

From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to exist
in the land of unicorns.  If it bolts up to a OM602, it should bolt up
to a OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have the whole
donor car, there may be enough parts there to make it work.  Maybe even
enough to make it work on a 123.

However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem can
go away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money.  See 
the CCF.



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Curley McLain 
September 23, 2016 at 11:02 AM
Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to 
exist in the land of unicorns.   If it bolts up to a OM602, it should 
bolt up to a OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have 
the whole donor car, there may be enough parts there to make it work.  
Maybe even enough to make it work on a 123.


However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem 
can go away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money.  
See the CCF.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
September 23, 2016 at 10:49 AM
Could you potentially put the 5spd from a 190 into a 124 300D? That'd 
be a pretty fun car to drive.

-Curt

From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

Sun Valley is the only place I'd ever get a rebuilt/new MB auto trans
from.  Any place else is a crapshoot and probably a waste of money.  For
a bottom feeder car, i'd try a junkyard used auto trans or convert to 4
speed.


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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

What you need to do is call the project an Energy Saving Global Climate 
Disruption Undisruptor, apply to DoE for a grant of, say, $583,617 to 
explore the options and do a prototype.  Take out a short-term loan to 
donate $100k to the CCF which you can repay as an expense on the grant 
when you get it a coupla weeks later. You'll need a fleet car, say a 
nice gray market GL dizzel, for testing and such.  You'll need to fly to 
Deutscheland to get it, should take 2-3 weeks and of course you will 
have to go various places to find one, stay at nice hotels, eat and 
drink well.  You can stop at some automotive recycling facilities (aka 
"kaput yards") to look for some bits too, these are necessary materials.


The optimum outcome is to spend all the money while paying yourself a 
high salary, never accomplish the task due to "economic factors" or 
something (your proposal will include this possibility) so that the 
research vehicle and bits you collect and the facility you need to build 
to work on the project, which would be like a 4-bay garage with AC and a 
2-post lift and a nice set of tools in a big rolling box, air 
compressor, all that stuff, revert to the contractor you hired the 
facility and other stuff from (that would be you, through an offshore 
subsidiary set up in some economically-deprived country where you get 
more points and credits and the CCF can say they spent money there, 
which would be the money you gave them to fund your initial garage 
acquisition).


You guys have no vision.

--R


On 9/23/16 12:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Clin ton C Rime Foundation   CCF


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
September 23, 2016 at 11:05 AM
CCF, the Coleman Collectors Forum?
5spd makes a 601 nice, not half as much fun with a 4spd auto.
-Curt

From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to exist
in the land of unicorns.  If it bolts up to a OM602, it should bolt up
to a OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have the whole
donor car, there may be enough parts there to make it work. Maybe even
enough to make it work on a 123.

However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem can
go away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money. See 
the CCF.



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Curley McLain 
September 23, 2016 at 11:02 AM
Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to 
exist in the land of unicorns.   If it bolts up to a OM602, it should 
bolt up to a OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have 
the whole donor car, there may be enough parts there to make it 
work.  Maybe even enough to make it work on a 123.


However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem 
can go away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money.  
See the CCF.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
September 23, 2016 at 10:49 AM
Could you potentially put the 5spd from a 190 into a 124 300D? That'd 
be a pretty fun car to drive.

-Curt

From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

Sun Valley is the only place I'd ever get a rebuilt/new MB auto trans
from.  Any place else is a crapshoot and probably a waste of money.  For
a bottom feeder car, i'd try a junkyard used auto trans or convert to 4
speed.


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Curley McLain 
September 23, 2016 at 8:14 AM
Sun Valley is the only place I'd ever get a rebuilt/new MB auto trans 
from.  Any place else is a crapshoot and probably a waste of money.  
For a bottom feeder car, i'd try a junkyard used auto 

Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

123.190 = 300TD (wagon) with non-turbo engine, five cylinders.  Mine was a
'grey market' import from 1985, I think it had about 200k miles on it when
I bought it.  Unusual car, it had a leather interior, but manual windows to
go with the manual transmission.  Unfortunately it had no AC, and I finally
gave up on the idea of attempting to retrofit AC from another 123.  It also
had pretty bad rust.  I drove that car through four South Carolina
summers.  Bought it at an auction for $1200, sold it for $2400.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 123.190? Whats that? Wasnt the 5spd in the 123 super rare?
> -Curt
>
>
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123.190? Whats that? Wasnt the 5spd in the 123 super rare?
-Curt

  From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Meade Dillon 
 Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 12:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos
   
I've owned two five-speed manual transmissions, in a 123.190 and a
201.1??.  Both were quite fun to drive.  Swapping a five-speed into a 124
diesel has been done, there was one for sale on peachparts last year.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to exist in
> the land of unicorns.  If it bolts up to a OM602, it should bolt up to a
> OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have the whole donor
> car, there may be enough parts there to make it work.  Maybe even enough to
> make it work on a 123.
>
> However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem can go
> away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money.  See the CCF.
>
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> September 23, 2016 at 10:49 AM
>> Could you potentially put the 5spd from a 190 into a 124 300D? That'd be
>> a pretty fun car to drive.
>> -Curt
>>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I've owned two five-speed manual transmissions, in a 123.190 and a
201.1??.  Both were quite fun to drive.  Swapping a five-speed into a 124
diesel has been done, there was one for sale on peachparts last year.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to exist in
> the land of unicorns.   If it bolts up to a OM602, it should bolt up to a
> OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have the whole donor
> car, there may be enough parts there to make it work.  Maybe even enough to
> make it work on a 123.
>
> However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem can go
> away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money.  See the CCF.
>
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> September 23, 2016 at 10:49 AM
>> Could you potentially put the 5spd from a 190 into a 124 300D? That'd be
>> a pretty fun car to drive.
>> -Curt
>>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Clin ton C Rime Foundation   CCF


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
September 23, 2016 at 11:05 AM
CCF, the Coleman Collectors Forum?
5spd makes a 601 nice, not half as much fun with a 4spd auto.
-Curt

From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to exist
in the land of unicorns.  If it bolts up to a OM602, it should bolt up
to a OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have the whole
donor car, there may be enough parts there to make it work.  Maybe even
enough to make it work on a 123.

However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem can
go away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money.  See 
the CCF.



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Curley McLain 
September 23, 2016 at 11:02 AM
Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to 
exist in the land of unicorns.   If it bolts up to a OM602, it should 
bolt up to a OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have 
the whole donor car, there may be enough parts there to make it work.  
Maybe even enough to make it work on a 123.


However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem 
can go away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money.  
See the CCF.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
September 23, 2016 at 10:49 AM
Could you potentially put the 5spd from a 190 into a 124 300D? That'd 
be a pretty fun car to drive.

-Curt

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Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

Sun Valley is the only place I'd ever get a rebuilt/new MB auto trans
from.  Any place else is a crapshoot and probably a waste of money.  For
a bottom feeder car, i'd try a junkyard used auto trans or convert to 4
speed.


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Curley McLain 
September 23, 2016 at 8:14 AM
Sun Valley is the only place I'd ever get a rebuilt/new MB auto trans 
from.  Any place else is a crapshoot and probably a waste of money.  
For a bottom feeder car, i'd try a junkyard used auto trans or convert 
to 4 speed.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
September 23, 2016 at 5:37 AM
I am convinced that should I ever need a transmission I will get one 
from Sun Valley. I have heard so many positive things about these guys 
over the years that I can't imagine anyone doing a better job.


A W124 rebuilt transmission from them is $1750. Transmission R is 
pretty straightforward and something I would do if I had to.


If the car was worth saving it would make sense to go that route in my 
opinion.


Dan



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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

CCF, the Coleman Collectors Forum?
5spd makes a 601 nice, not half as much fun with a 4spd auto.
-Curt

  From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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 Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 12:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos
   
Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to exist 
in the land of unicorns.  If it bolts up to a OM602, it should bolt up 
to a OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have the whole 
donor car, there may be enough parts there to make it work.  Maybe even 
enough to make it work on a 123.

However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem can 
go away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money.  See the CCF.

> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> September 23, 2016 at 10:49 AM
> Could you potentially put the 5spd from a 190 into a 124 300D? That'd 
> be a pretty fun car to drive.
> -Curt

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Probably.  I have never seen a 5 speed MB.  A few are reported to exist 
in the land of unicorns.   If it bolts up to a OM602, it should bolt up 
to a OM603.  Probably Won't bolt up to a OM616.  If you have the whole 
donor car, there may be enough parts there to make it work.  Maybe even 
enough to make it work on a 123.


However, if you have enough money to trow at a problem, the problem can 
go away one way or another.  I don't have that kind of  money.  See the CCF.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
September 23, 2016 at 10:49 AM
Could you potentially put the 5spd from a 190 into a 124 300D? That'd 
be a pretty fun car to drive.

-Curt


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Could you potentially put the 5spd from a 190 into a 124 300D? That'd be a 
pretty fun car to drive.
-Curt

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 Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:14 AM
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Sun Valley is the only place I'd ever get a rebuilt/new MB auto trans 
from.  Any place else is a crapshoot and probably a waste of money.  For 
a bottom feeder car, i'd try a junkyard used auto trans or convert to 4 
speed.

> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> September 23, 2016 at 5:37 AM
> I am convinced that should I ever need a transmission I will get one 
> from Sun Valley. I have heard so many positive things about these guys 
> over the years that I can't imagine anyone doing a better job.
>
> A W124 rebuilt transmission from them is $1750. Transmission R is 
> pretty straightforward and something I would do if I had to.
>
> If the car was worth saving it would make sense to go that route in my 
> opinion.
>
> Dan

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Sun Valley is the only place I'd ever get a rebuilt/new MB auto trans 
from.  Any place else is a crapshoot and probably a waste of money.  For 
a bottom feeder car, i'd try a junkyard used auto trans or convert to 4 
speed.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
September 23, 2016 at 5:37 AM
I am convinced that should I ever need a transmission I will get one 
from Sun Valley. I have heard so many positive things about these guys 
over the years that I can't imagine anyone doing a better job.


A W124 rebuilt transmission from them is $1750. Transmission R is 
pretty straightforward and something I would do if I had to.


If the car was worth saving it would make sense to go that route in my 
opinion.


Dan


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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I am convinced that should I ever need a transmission I will get one from Sun 
Valley. I have heard so many positive things about these guys over the years 
that I can't imagine anyone doing a better job.

A W124 rebuilt transmission from them is $1750.  Transmission R is pretty 
straightforward and something I would do if I had to.

If the car was worth saving it would make sense to go that route in my opinion.

Dan

> On Sep 23, 2016, at 12:09 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Your junkyards are more magnanimous than the ones around here.  They'd want 
> $750 here for a 124 trans.  Maybe more for a newer car.  That said, they 
> seldom sell a trans.
> 
>> clay via Mercedes 
>> September 22, 2016 at 10:54 PM
>> Brand new would run around $5k, a good rebuild is $2k, junk yard survivor is 
>> all of $250 before install.
>> 
>> clay
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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Your junkyards are more magnanimous than the ones around here.  They'd 
want $750 here for a 124 trans.  Maybe more for a newer car.  That said, 
they seldom sell a trans.



clay via Mercedes 
September 22, 2016 at 10:54 PM
Brand new would run around $5k, a good rebuild is $2k, junk yard 
survivor is all of $250 before install.


clay




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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[clay via Mercedes]

Brand new would run around $5k, a good rebuild is $2k, junk yard survivor is 
all of $250 before install.

clay

> On Sep 21, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On September 21, 2016 at 6:38 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> As long as the body doesn't rust out theres not all that great a reason to
>> ever get rid of a car. Say something big goes, like the transmission, you're
>> out maybe $2,000 for a junkyard replacement which will probably have fewer
>> miles than yours.
> 
> Where do junkyard transmissions cost $2000, New Jersey?
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I was meaning installed.
A WAG really, I paid $1800 when I got the Golf for a junkyard transmission 
installed with a timing belt service, oil change and headlight polish. The 
transmission was probably under $1000 installed...
-Curt

  From: Mitch Haley 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 6:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos
   

> On September 21, 2016 at 6:38 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> As long as the body doesn't rust out theres not all that great a reason to
> ever get rid of a car. Say something big goes, like the transmission, you're
> out maybe $2,000 for a junkyard replacement which will probably have fewer
> miles than yours.

Where do junkyard transmissions cost $2000, New Jersey?

Mitch.


   
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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On September 21, 2016 at 6:38 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> As long as the body doesn't rust out theres not all that great a reason to
> ever get rid of a car. Say something big goes, like the transmission, you're
> out maybe $2,000 for a junkyard replacement which will probably have fewer
> miles than yours.

Where do junkyard transmissions cost $2000, New Jersey?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

As long as the body doesn't rust out theres not all that great a reason to ever 
get rid of a car. Say something big goes, like the transmission, you're out 
maybe $2,000 for a junkyard replacement which will probably have fewer miles 
than yours. Average that out over the next 20,000 miles and it amounts to 
basically nothing...
-Curt

  From: Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 To: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
Cc: Donald Snook 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos
   
Someone asked me about buying a BMW 5 series or a 7 series (from 1995-2001) and 
I started thinking about what I have had to spend on my car.

I bought my 2000 BMW 740iL 4 years ago with 159,000 miles. I now have 228,000 
miles. In the 4 intervening years, I have had to do the following repairs and 
maintenance:

Replaced the battery twice, one was free as the battery was under warranty -- 
$200
Replace Tires - $400
Replaced the coolant reservoir and coolant level sensor around $120
Replaced the radiator -- $400 (includes labor cost at shop)
replaced rear brake pads $100
replaced passenger door lock actuator $250 (includes labor cost at shop)
changed the spark plugs - $75
replaced one ignition coil - $70
replace fuel pump and fuel filter -- $500 (includes labor cost at shop)

That adds up to $2115 in four years and 68,000 miles. I doubt I could have 
driven a new car and spent less than that in 4 years!

Even if I figure in the cost of 12 oil changes (some done by me and some at a 
shop) with an average cost of $50 each, that brings the total to $2715. Less 
than $3000 in 4 years and almost 70,000 miles.

So, I decided to figure out the TOTAL operating costs for my car. I added up 
the cost of the car + insurance + gas + maintenance and repairs + licensing and 
taxes. I added it all up and my total ownership costs is 23 cents per mile.

According to AAA, the average operating costs in the USA is 57 cents per mile 
(for all car styles). The average operating cost for a large sedan is 69 cents 
per mile. Those amounts for the miles I have driven would have been $38,760 and 
$46,920 respectively. I spent a total of $15,728 for my car including 
everything.

A few sites I have seen provide the average operating costs and the cheapest 
vehicle for 5 year operating costs was a Toyota Prius at approximately 30 cents 
per mile the average cost of a small sedan at 46.4 cents per mile.

Despite the conventional wisdom, my 740iL has been extremely cheap to own and 
is more than twice as cheap as the smallest and cheapest average cars.

Now that I have figured it all up I know what to do with my fleet.

Fix the windows on the 01 BMW, sell it, and keep the truck and 2000 BMW and 
drive it as long as I can.  I have 228,000 miles.  I see no reason it won't 
make it 250K (knock wood!).

Don Snook




From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 2:08 PM
To: Donald Snook 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

Thank you sir!  240D has been around for over 20 years now.  Since I had to 
drive it several winters and both kids drove it and learned to drive in it, it 
is no longer pretty, but does not look bad from 50'  For now, the rust is 
mostly in places where it does not show.  It could use a couple  months of 
Dimitri's majik!  Then a Curt roller paint job.


Donald Snook
September 21, 2016 at 11:49 AM
Now, this deserves an ATTABOY!

Any time someone can keep their cars running (and even improve them) in an 
effort to avoid a car payment, I think that is an admirable goal!

Don Snook

-Original Message-
From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:25 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 

Subject: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos


on that note: In the past month, the only parts I have had to buy was the 
engine shock for the 240D. That means no "car payment" this month!
Sincel about a year ago, I have been doing a lot of fixing, and ordering parts. 
A lot of it was deferred maintenance. Even the neglected 240D has a new 
exhaust, after 20 years of patching the old one together until it was pretty 
much bandaids holding the bandaids together. When I took the old exhaust off 
and salvaged the hose clamps, there was only the front pipe from the manifold 
to the bend to the aft (about 20") left.

It also has new motor mounts, a new air cleaner, the transmission
modulator adjusted; new front end parts etc. The old 240D sounds
good, is smoother and shifts better. The trans has been "on the way out" for 
10-15 years, but has not died yet...


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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Someone asked me about buying a BMW 5 series or a 7 series (from 1995-2001) and 
I started thinking about what I have had to spend on my car.

I bought my 2000 BMW 740iL 4 years ago with 159,000 miles. I now have 228,000 
miles. In the 4 intervening years, I have had to do the following repairs and 
maintenance:

Replaced the battery twice, one was free as the battery was under warranty -- 
$200
Replace Tires - $400
Replaced the coolant reservoir and coolant level sensor around $120
Replaced the radiator -- $400 (includes labor cost at shop)
replaced rear brake pads $100
replaced passenger door lock actuator $250 (includes labor cost at shop)
changed the spark plugs - $75
replaced one ignition coil - $70
replace fuel pump and fuel filter -- $500 (includes labor cost at shop)

That adds up to $2115 in four years and 68,000 miles. I doubt I could have 
driven a new car and spent less than that in 4 years!

Even if I figure in the cost of 12 oil changes (some done by me and some at a 
shop) with an average cost of $50 each, that brings the total to $2715. Less 
than $3000 in 4 years and almost 70,000 miles.

So, I decided to figure out the TOTAL operating costs for my car. I added up 
the cost of the car + insurance + gas + maintenance and repairs + licensing and 
taxes. I added it all up and my total ownership costs is 23 cents per mile.

According to AAA, the average operating costs in the USA is 57 cents per mile 
(for all car styles). The average operating cost for a large sedan is 69 cents 
per mile. Those amounts for the miles I have driven would have been $38,760 and 
$46,920 respectively. I spent a total of $15,728 for my car including 
everything.

A few sites I have seen provide the average operating costs and the cheapest 
vehicle for 5 year operating costs was a Toyota Prius at approximately 30 cents 
per mile the average cost of a small sedan at 46.4 cents per mile.

Despite the conventional wisdom, my 740iL has been extremely cheap to own and 
is more than twice as cheap as the smallest and cheapest average cars.

Now that I have figured it all up I know what to do with my fleet.

Fix the windows on the 01 BMW, sell it, and keep the truck and 2000 BMW and 
drive it as long as I can.  I have 228,000 miles.  I see no reason it won't 
make it 250K (knock wood!).

Don Snook




From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 2:08 PM
To: Donald Snook 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

Thank you sir!   240D has been around for over 20 years now.  Since I had to 
drive it several winters and both kids drove it and learned to drive in it, it 
is no longer pretty, but does not look bad from 50'  For now, the rust is 
mostly in places where it does not show.  It could use a couple  months of 
Dimitri's majik!  Then a Curt roller paint job.


Donald Snook
September 21, 2016 at 11:49 AM
Now, this deserves an ATTABOY!

Any time someone can keep their cars running (and even improve them) in an 
effort to avoid a car payment, I think that is an admirable goal!

Don Snook

-Original Message-
From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:25 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 

Subject: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos


on that note: In the past month, the only parts I have had to buy was the 
engine shock for the 240D. That means no "car payment" this month!
Sincel about a year ago, I have been doing a lot of fixing, and ordering parts. 
A lot of it was deferred maintenance. Even the neglected 240D has a new 
exhaust, after 20 years of patching the old one together until it was pretty 
much bandaids holding the bandaids together. When I took the old exhaust off 
and salvaged the hose clamps, there was only the front pipe from the manifold 
to the bend to the aft (about 20") left.

It also has new motor mounts, a new air cleaner, the transmission
modulator adjusted; new front end parts etc. The old 240D sounds
good, is smoother and shifts better. The trans has been "on the way out" for 
10-15 years, but has not died yet...


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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Now, this deserves an ATTABOY!  

Any time someone can keep their cars running (and even improve them) in an 
effort to avoid a car payment, I think that is an admirable goal!  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:25 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos


on that note:  In the past month, the only parts I have had to buy was the 
engine shock for the 240D.  That means no "car payment" this month!  
Sincel about a year ago, I have been doing a lot of fixing, and ordering parts. 
 A lot of it was deferred maintenance.  Even the neglected 240D has a new 
exhaust, after 20 years of patching the old one together until it was pretty 
much bandaids holding the bandaids together.  When I took the old exhaust off 
and salvaged the hose clamps, there was only the front pipe from the manifold 
to the bend to the aft (about 20") left.

It also has new motor mounts, a new air cleaner, the transmission 
modulator adjusted;  new front end parts etc.   The old 240D sounds 
good, is smoother and shifts better.  The trans has been "on the way out" for 
10-15 years, but has not died yet...
> rogerhga--- via Mercedes  September 21, 
> 2016 at 6:06 AM No, this car is TOO NICE for any of the "bottom 
> feeders" on this list (and that includes me) :-))) This car appears in 
> TOO good a condition so what would anyone have to spend hours of time 
> fixing / repairing?
> Pass on this one.
> Best Wishes,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>



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Re: [MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curley wrote:
> It also has ... the transmission modulator adjusted...

Yeah, I gotta get to that adjustment for my 3-pedal 240D.
NOT!!
mao

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[MBZ] No car payment this month Was: A car for poos

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

on that note:  In the past month, the only parts I have had to buy was 
the engine shock for the 240D.  That means no "car payment" this month!  
Sincel about a year ago, I have been doing a lot of fixing, and ordering 
parts.  A lot of it was deferred maintenance.  Even the neglected 240D 
has a new exhaust, after 20 years of patching the old one together until 
it was pretty much bandaids holding the bandaids together.  When I took 
the old exhaust off and salvaged the hose clamps, there was only the 
front pipe from the manifold to the bend to the aft (about 20") left.


It also has new motor mounts, a new air cleaner, the transmission 
modulator adjusted;  new front end parts etc.   The old 240D sounds 
good, is smoother and shifts better.  The trans has been "on the way 
out" for 10-15 years, but has not died yet...

rogerhga--- via Mercedes 
September 21, 2016 at 6:06 AM
No, this car is TOO NICE for any of the "bottom feeders" on this list 
(and that includes me) :-))) This car appears in TOO good a condition 
so what would anyone have to spend hours of time fixing / repairing? 
Pass on this one.

Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com



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