Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-06 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Kaleb wrote: > The one that came with the MC was much shorter than the MB one > that came off the car so I stuck the one that came with the MC > back in.  I had a hell of a time compressing it to get it back > to the bolt hole.  Finally got it, screwed it back down and now > the clutch works!

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Next up I need to replace the voltage regulator then get the blower and AC working. Front end needs to be rebuilt and the flex disks and center support need to be replaced. Not sure yet if I will do all that or sell as is. One this is certain I will not be doing any of that unless I get my lift

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Glad the trick pony gave one more ride Kaleb. Congrats on success Now, get out and do a burnout before you do the Italian tuneup. 240 version. Don't forget to pack a lunch.. ;)) On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 4:29 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Bravo! > > Max

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Bravo! Max Dillon Charleston SC Jul 5, 2020 6:15:23 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : > I got home with the 8ft section of hose and I just decided to leave it as is > rather than cutting it shorter.  I filled the tube with fluid from the HF oil > can squirter then attached it to the bleeder

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Attaboy. Mitch. On Sun, July 5, 2020 6:15 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Finally > got it, screwed it back down and now the clutch works! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I got home with the 8ft section of hose and I just decided to leave it as is rather than cutting it shorter.  I filled the tube with fluid from the HF oil can squirter then attached it to the bleeder and began pumping.  I ended up developing some air pockets in the house so I removed it from

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I just bought 8 ft of clear tubing. Will run it out from under the car to where I can watch the reservoir then cut the length I need. I will then pump the line full of fluid before hooking it up to the bleeder on slave cylinder. Then start pumping. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2020, at

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I didn't say it would always work. ;) -Curt On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 2:37:17 AM EDT, fmiser wrote: > Curt wrote: > Have you checked to see if the line from the master to the slave > is clear? Maybe that was the problem all along. My suggestion is > to use the rod from the car, not the

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
See next posts where I unbolted the rod from the pedal to allow it to freely extend and still couldn’t bleed it. Going to try the oil can method next. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2020, at 1:33 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > >  >> >> Kaleb wrote: > >> I had to push the rod in about an

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Curt wrote: > Have you checked to see if the line from the master to the slave > is clear? Maybe that was the problem all along. My suggestion is > to use the rod from the car, not the replacement master. Can't always do that. I've seen at least three different rod-to-cylinder interfaces.

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Kaleb wrote: > If you push pedal down all the way it stays down but will pop > back up to the top on its own if you pop it up a little Once the lines and cylinders are full of oil, the clutch spring will help push the master cylinder back to the top. ___

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Kaleb wrote: > I had to push the rod in about an 8th of an inch or less to get > it to line up with the pedal mounting point. Would that make a > difference? YES! That is too far in. It won't bleed - and the master cylinder will never get fresh fluid from the reservoir. You must have a rod

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Kaleb wrote: > ...have pumped the crap out the brake pedal and still no pedal > action (pedal stays down, does not come back up).  I seem to > recall reading something about certain brands of replacement > master cylinder the rod does not come all the way back up.  I do > know on this one in

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I may have to try using the rod from the last master cylinder. I think the line is clear but will double check it. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2020, at 7:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Have you checked to see if the line from the master to the slave is clear? > Maybe

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Have you checked to see if the line from the master to the slave is clear? Maybe that was the problem all along. My suggestion is to use the rod from the car, not the replacement master. That was my problem, the original rod got thrown away before I knew it was too long. That one would still

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
The cylinder came with 2 rods, the one already installed on it the instructions say are for 123, the other rod is for 126.  I have completely disconnected it from the clutch pedal so length should not matter as far as bleeding goes.  I am going to try the oil can method next with a longer

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Kaleb, Port of last resort, try stacking some washers under the master cyl till you get some free travel at the clutch pedal, not as a permanent fix, but to get a clutch that works.. At the moment, I'm almost convinced the rod is too long... bring the car closer to computer so I can have a better

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I don’t feel any resistance what so ever when pushing the pedal. What I have done today is I unbolted the rod from the pedal so it is all the way up, still continuing with the line hooked from brake caliper to slave cylinder. I pumped the brake pedal for several minutes, closed the bleed port

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
When the pedal is all the way up, is there any free play? You should have 1/4 to 1/2 inch of free travel at the pedal before you feel pump rod and pressure engagement. If you have no free play at the top, then the piston rubber will be covering the end travel port in the master cyl, and you will

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
If you push pedal down all the way it stays down but will pop back up to the top on its own if you pop it up a little Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2020, at 11:30 AM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes, something like that oil can from Harbor Freight.. > I like one with a rigid spout

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Throw in a complete set of "50 Shades of Gray" with the new renter... all the "master / slave" stuff will be OK then... On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 7:44 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > As long as they're the same color it's not racist. > > -- Jim > > >

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Yes, something like that oil can from Harbor Freight.. I like one with a rigid spout instead of flex because the poly tubing stays on better. As noted, check the length of the clutch master push rod. the pedal should return to up position... is the return spring OK? On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 7:18

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
As long as they're the same color it's not racist. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
In that case should I disconnect the rod from the pedal while bleeding? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes, I think that is the problem. The rod is too long. Curt has been down > this path. > > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > > Jul

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I did compare it next to the old one before installing it and on the old one the rod stuck out further. Of course it might not have been fully seated in the bore. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2020, at 8:31 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > That's right! And make sure your

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Oh crap you are right. I should complain to the parts sites too. What should we call them? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2020, at 7:16 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Please refrain from using these racist designations > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Jul 3, 2020, at

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yes, I think that is the problem.  The rod is too long.  Curt has been down this path. Max Dillon Charleston SC Jul 4, 2020 10:25:53 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : > I had to push the rod in about an 8th of an inch or less to get it to line up > with the pedal mounting point. Would that

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If it’s like the clevis rod for a brake cylinder, there should be a small amount (1/8”) of play between the end of the rod and the piston in the clutch cylinder. -D > On Jul 4, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I had to push the rod in about an 8th of an inch or

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
The pedal stays up on its own with spring pressure. It only stays down if you push it. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2020, at 7:03 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > >  > >> On Sat, July 4, 2020 7:43 am, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: >> On Sat, July 4, 2020 1:34 am, G Mann via

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I had to push the rod in about an 8th of an inch or less to get it to line up with the pedal mounting point. Would that make a difference? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2020, at 6:44 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Sat, July 4, 2020 1:34 am, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > >>

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Something like this? https://www.harborfreight.com/20-oz-flexible-spout-oil-can-1113.html Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2020, at 12:34 AM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > My favorite way to bleed clutch systems is to use an old fashioned hand > pump oil gun. > I fill the pump oiler with

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
That's right!  And make sure your rental listing doesn't say anything about a M*r bedroom! Kidding aside, I think you have touched on the problem: rod for the master cylinder is too long. Max Dillon Charleston SC Jul 4, 2020 8:16:36 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes : > Please refrain

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Please refrain from using these racist designations --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 3, 2020, at 11:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I got the slave cylinder and master cylinder ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sat, July 4, 2020 7:43 am, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > On Sat, July 4, 2020 1:34 am, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > >> >> With the clutch pedal up >> > > ^^^ Key words there. > If the pedal isn't up, you aren't pumping the air out through the master > cylinder. If you just want

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sat, July 4, 2020 1:34 am, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > With the clutch pedal up ^^^ Key words there. If the pedal isn't up, you aren't pumping the air out through the master cylinder. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-03 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Forgot to make note: Be sure the oil pump gun is clean of oil, or use a new one [they are cheap items at FLAPS.] On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 10:34 PM G Mann wrote: > My favorite way to bleed clutch systems is to use an old fashioned hand > pump oil gun. > I fill the pump oiler with brake fluid,

Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-03 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
My favorite way to bleed clutch systems is to use an old fashioned hand pump oil gun. I fill the pump oiler with brake fluid, attach a hose to the pump output pipe and to the bleed screw on the clutch slave cylinder. Then loosen the cap on the clutch master cylinder [leave it on, just not tight,