Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

All electrical?

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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

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You will find plenty of uses for the magic juice.

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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

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Bravo!
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Waytago!


I love it when a [cheap] plan comes together!


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
October 21, 2016 at 9:23 PM
Long story short, I received an aerosol can of Deoxit purchased on 
ebay for

about $15 delivered. I somewhat sloppily sprayed it on the tach prongs
(can) and inside the housing. Results: for the psat 3 days the tach now
works FLAWLESSLY.

Hooray to the List!


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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Long story short, I received an aerosol can of Deoxit purchased on ebay for
about $15 delivered.  I somewhat sloppily sprayed it on the tach prongs
(can) and inside the housing.  Results:  for the psat 3 days the tach now
works FLAWLESSLY.

Hooray to the List!

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 1:20 AM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> There are a few around here, but the 201/124 cars are pretty regular, with
> the 140/202 cars becoming more prevalent.   You are pretty sure to find
> w210 with ease.
>
> clay
>
> > On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > not many 123 300Ds in the knackers nowdays
> >
> >> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >> October 16, 2016 at 7:53 PM
> >> What's the down side of buying a couple cheap used ones from a junkyard?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[clay via Mercedes]

There are a few around here, but the 201/124 cars are pretty regular, with the 
140/202 cars becoming more prevalent.   You are pretty sure to find w210 with 
ease.

clay

> On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> not many 123 300Ds in the knackers nowdays
> 
>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> October 16, 2016 at 7:53 PM
>> What's the down side of buying a couple cheap used ones from a junkyard?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[MG via Mercedes]

I sent an email with attached PDF. Who is doing the vetting of 
the emails now?


Manfred




Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 15:21:37 -0400
From: Dan Penoff 



Schematic with component values:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/1291317-tach-amp-dissection.html#post2121572
 


Dan



On Oct 17, 2016, at 3:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Have you researched this?

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/1652194-permanent-tachometer-amplifier-fix.html#post5247399
 


Troubleshooting for the socket:

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?aid=2298 


This guy hasn?t been on PP for a little over a year (dead?) but if you?re a 
member you can PM him:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/219949-om617a-tach-amp.html 


There doesn?t seem to be an across the board end of all hassles fix for this.  
I?m surprised that someone hasn?t dissected one of these and duplicated the 
circuitry or figured out an alternative.

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Agreed.  I had heard that someone had posted a schematic some time ago, but I 
didn’t take note as I didn’t have a car that it applied to.

I got some screen shots so I have these for potential future use.

Dan


> On Oct 17, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Very instructive - no, I had not seen that.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Very instructive - no, I had not seen that.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Have you researched this?
>
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/
> 1652194-permanent-tachometer-amplifier-fix.html#post5247399 <
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/
> 1652194-permanent-tachometer-amplifier-fix.html#post5247399>
>
> Troubleshooting for the socket:
>
> http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?aid=2298 <
> http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?aid=2298>
>
> This guy hasn’t been on PP for a little over a year (dead?) but if you’re
> a member you can PM him:
>
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/
> 219949-om617a-tach-amp.html  shopforum/diesel-discussion/219949-om617a-tach-amp.html>
>
> There doesn’t seem to be an across the board end of all hassles fix for
> this.  I’m surprised that someone hasn’t dissected one of these and
> duplicated the circuitry or figured out an alternative.
>
> Dan
>
> > On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That's worth a try (DeOxIt) but I'm skeptical that will work.  It's a
> very
> > simple system, just the magnetic pick-up sensor on the engine, the can
> > (tachometer amplifier) and the tachometer, and the wiring and a fuse.
> > Change all the fuses?  Check the grounds?  There is the big ground point
> > behind the instrument cluster on a 123?  Maybe a ground in the engine bay
> > for the amplifier?
> >
> > $400 is a lot of clams to troubleshoot by replacing parts, so you may end
> > up trying a "new" tachometer first.  Maybe take apart the female
> receptacle
> > on the fender, and rig a test circuit to your spare tachometer
> > so you can test it first before pulling the instrument cluster?  You'll
> > need the wiring diagram, soldering gun and solder and solder sucker or
> > solder wick, and some wires and connectors to hook up the temporary
> > circuit.  I think the tach will want a wire for power, a ground wire,
> and a
> > signal wire from the amplifier.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Oh that.  I have a spare "can" and neither works for more than a minute
> or
> >> two, which makes me think the contacts in the receptacle (female unit)
> need
> >> rejuvenating with Deoxit, or that the tach combination gauge is somehow
> at
> >> fault (I have several spare gauges but pulling the cluster and
> resetting in
> >> place it is a royal PIA).
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Schematic with component values:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/1291317-tach-amp-dissection.html#post2121572
 


Dan


> On Oct 17, 2016, at 3:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Have you researched this?
> 
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/1652194-permanent-tachometer-amplifier-fix.html#post5247399
>  
> 
> 
> Troubleshooting for the socket:
> 
> http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?aid=2298 
> 
> 
> This guy hasn’t been on PP for a little over a year (dead?) but if you’re a 
> member you can PM him:
> 
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/219949-om617a-tach-amp.html
>  
> 
> 
> There doesn’t seem to be an across the board end of all hassles fix for this. 
>  I’m surprised that someone hasn’t dissected one of these and duplicated the 
> circuitry or figured out an alternative.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That's worth a try (DeOxIt) but I'm skeptical that will work.  It's a very
>> simple system, just the magnetic pick-up sensor on the engine, the can
>> (tachometer amplifier) and the tachometer, and the wiring and a fuse.
>> Change all the fuses?  Check the grounds?  There is the big ground point
>> behind the instrument cluster on a 123?  Maybe a ground in the engine bay
>> for the amplifier?
>> 
>> $400 is a lot of clams to troubleshoot by replacing parts, so you may end
>> up trying a "new" tachometer first.  Maybe take apart the female receptacle
>> on the fender, and rig a test circuit to your spare tachometer
>> so you can test it first before pulling the instrument cluster?  You'll
>> need the wiring diagram, soldering gun and solder and solder sucker or
>> solder wick, and some wires and connectors to hook up the temporary
>> circuit.  I think the tach will want a wire for power, a ground wire, and a
>> signal wire from the amplifier.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh that.  I have a spare "can" and neither works for more than a minute or
>>> two, which makes me think the contacts in the receptacle (female unit) need
>>> rejuvenating with Deoxit, or that the tach combination gauge is somehow at
>>> fault (I have several spare gauges but pulling the cluster and resetting in
>>> place it is a royal PIA).
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Have you researched this?

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/1652194-permanent-tachometer-amplifier-fix.html#post5247399
 


Troubleshooting for the socket:

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?aid=2298 


This guy hasn’t been on PP for a little over a year (dead?) but if you’re a 
member you can PM him:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/219949-om617a-tach-amp.html
 


There doesn’t seem to be an across the board end of all hassles fix for this.  
I’m surprised that someone hasn’t dissected one of these and duplicated the 
circuitry or figured out an alternative.

Dan

> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's worth a try (DeOxIt) but I'm skeptical that will work.  It's a very
> simple system, just the magnetic pick-up sensor on the engine, the can
> (tachometer amplifier) and the tachometer, and the wiring and a fuse.
> Change all the fuses?  Check the grounds?  There is the big ground point
> behind the instrument cluster on a 123?  Maybe a ground in the engine bay
> for the amplifier?
> 
> $400 is a lot of clams to troubleshoot by replacing parts, so you may end
> up trying a "new" tachometer first.  Maybe take apart the female receptacle
> on the fender, and rig a test circuit to your spare tachometer
> so you can test it first before pulling the instrument cluster?  You'll
> need the wiring diagram, soldering gun and solder and solder sucker or
> solder wick, and some wires and connectors to hook up the temporary
> circuit.  I think the tach will want a wire for power, a ground wire, and a
> signal wire from the amplifier.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> 
>> Oh that.  I have a spare "can" and neither works for more than a minute or
>> two, which makes me think the contacts in the receptacle (female unit) need
>> rejuvenating with Deoxit, or that the tach combination gauge is somehow at
>> fault (I have several spare gauges but pulling the cluster and resetting in
>> place it is a royal PIA).
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That's worth a try (DeOxIt) but I'm skeptical that will work.  It's a very
simple system, just the magnetic pick-up sensor on the engine, the can
(tachometer amplifier) and the tachometer, and the wiring and a fuse.
Change all the fuses?  Check the grounds?  There is the big ground point
behind the instrument cluster on a 123?  Maybe a ground in the engine bay
for the amplifier?

$400 is a lot of clams to troubleshoot by replacing parts, so you may end
up trying a "new" tachometer first.  Maybe take apart the female receptacle
on the fender, and rig a test circuit to your spare tachometer
so you can test it first before pulling the instrument cluster?  You'll
need the wiring diagram, soldering gun and solder and solder sucker or
solder wick, and some wires and connectors to hook up the temporary
circuit.  I think the tach will want a wire for power, a ground wire, and a
signal wire from the amplifier.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> Oh that.  I have a spare "can" and neither works for more than a minute or
> two, which makes me think the contacts in the receptacle (female unit) need
> rejuvenating with Deoxit, or that the tach combination gauge is somehow at
> fault (I have several spare gauges but pulling the cluster and resetting in
> place it is a royal PIA).
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Oh that.  I have a spare "can" and neither works for more than a minute or
two, which makes me think the contacts in the receptacle (female unit) need
rejuvenating with Deoxit, or that the tach combination gauge is somehow at
fault (I have several spare gauges but pulling the cluster and resetting in
place it is a royal PIA).

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> No, the "can" is the small black round thing with a plastic tie attached to
> the car, and has male pins.
>
> See picture in post #3 here:
>
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/
> 91760-location-tach-amp-w123.html
>
> Or Google "123 Tachometer Amplifier" for images.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > What you call "the can" is the female plug that's attached to the inner
> > fender?
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > They are most likely dead as well.  The root cause of the failure is
> > > either failed capacitors or failed solder joints in the circuit board
> > that
> > > is buried in RTV inside the can.
> > > --
> > > Max Dillon
> > > Charleston SC
> > > '87 300TD
> > > '95 E300
> > >
> > > On October 16, 2016 8:53:21 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >What's the down side of buying a couple cheap used ones from a
> > > >junkyard?
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

No, the "can" is the small black round thing with a plastic tie attached to
the car, and has male pins.

See picture in post #3 here:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/91760-location-tach-amp-w123.html

Or Google "123 Tachometer Amplifier" for images.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What you call "the can" is the female plug that's attached to the inner
> fender?
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > They are most likely dead as well.  The root cause of the failure is
> > either failed capacitors or failed solder joints in the circuit board
> that
> > is buried in RTV inside the can.
> > --
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> >
> > On October 16, 2016 8:53:21 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >What's the down side of buying a couple cheap used ones from a
> > >junkyard?
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What you call "the can" is the female plug that's attached to the inner
fender?

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> They are most likely dead as well.  The root cause of the failure is
> either failed capacitors or failed solder joints in the circuit board that
> is buried in RTV inside the can.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On October 16, 2016 8:53:21 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >What's the down side of buying a couple cheap used ones from a
> >junkyard?
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

They are most likely dead as well.  The root cause of the failure is either 
failed capacitors or failed solder joints in the circuit board that is buried 
in RTV inside the can.  
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 16, 2016 8:53:21 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>What's the down side of buying a couple cheap used ones from a
>junkyard?
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

not many 123 300Ds in the knackers nowdays


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
October 16, 2016 at 7:53 PM
What's the down side of buying a couple cheap used ones from a junkyard?



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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What's the down side of buying a couple cheap used ones from a junkyard?

On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> >
> > Yeah. Ever since the guy that made the electronic ones disappeared off
> the
> > internet. Those were a really nice item. Wish I had bought 4-5 more at
> the
> > time.
>
>
> The stock ones _are_ electronic!  IIRC, though I couldn't find my notes,
> that the circuit inside the can is nearly straight out of the Application
> Note for whatever IC is located within it.
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> Yeah. Ever since the guy that made the electronic ones disappeared off the
> internet. Those were a really nice item. Wish I had bought 4-5 more at the
> time.


The stock ones _are_ electronic!  IIRC, though I couldn't find my notes,
that the circuit inside the can is nearly straight out of the Application
Note for whatever IC is located within it.

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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[MG via Mercedes]

Yeah. Ever since the guy that made the electronic ones 
disappeared off the internet. Those were a really nice item. Wish 
I had bought 4-5 more at the time.


Manfred


Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 21:07:02 -0500
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 

The tach amps are expensive these days?

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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Iirc a little under 400 at Autohausaz.

On Oct 15, 2016 10:07 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The tach amps are expensive these days?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 15, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > New Tach amps are hideously expensive and the problem could be a defect
> in
> > the gauge.
> >
> > On Oct 15, 2016 9:07 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> If cleaning the contacts doesn't work, a new tach amplifier almost
> >> certainly will.
> >> --
> >> Max Dillon
> >> Charleston SC
> >> '87 300TD
> >> '95 E300
> >>
> >> On October 15, 2016 1:11:04 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
> >>> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the
> >>> contacts).
> >>> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or
> >>> slightly
> >>> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
> >>> Deoxit
> >>> which I don't currently own.
> >>>
> >>> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
> >>> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto
> >>> the
> >>> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
> >>>
> >>> TIA,
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
> >>> 1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
> >>> 1983 300TD white/blue
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The tach amps are expensive these days?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> New Tach amps are hideously expensive and the problem could be a defect in
> the gauge.
> 
> On Oct 15, 2016 9:07 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> If cleaning the contacts doesn't work, a new tach amplifier almost
>> certainly will.
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>> On October 15, 2016 1:11:04 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
>>> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the
>>> contacts).
>>> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or
>>> slightly
>>> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
>>> Deoxit
>>> which I don't currently own.
>>> 
>>> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
>>> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto
>>> the
>>> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
>>> 
>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
>>> 
>>> TIA,
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
>>> 1983 300TD white/blue
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

New Tach amps are hideously expensive and the problem could be a defect in
the gauge.

On Oct 15, 2016 9:07 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> If cleaning the contacts doesn't work, a new tach amplifier almost
> certainly will.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On October 15, 2016 1:11:04 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
> >(stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the
> >contacts).
> >I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or
> >slightly
> >corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
> >Deoxit
> >which I don't currently own.
> >
> >Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
> >application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto
> >the
> >male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
> >
> >http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
> >
> >TIA,
> >
> >Andrew
> >1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

If cleaning the contacts doesn't work, a new tach amplifier almost certainly 
will.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 15, 2016 1:11:04 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
>(stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the
>contacts).
>I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or 
>slightly
>corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
>Deoxit
>which I don't currently own.
>
>Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
>application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto
>the
>male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
>
>http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
>
>TIA,
>
>Andrew
>1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
>1983 300TD white/blue
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[MG via Mercedes]

I was also thinking that Andrew might want to take the female 
plug apart and tighten the little receivers a bit to promote 
better contact. I did that with mine and it has worked fine even 
without Deoxit.


Manfred



Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 13:04:48 -0500
From: OK Don 

Also, yes, spray both the male and female sections, then plug, in-plug them
several times.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
(stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply Deoxit
which I don't currently own.




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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Andrew:

 

Mine is different, the cap is replaced by one with a long, slender metal tube 
that has a tiny cap on top: 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAIG-D100L-25C-DeoxIT-Needle-Dispenser-25-ml-/321527461953?hash=item4adc87b841:g:qhMAAOSwRLZUGxg2

 

 The one pictured in your ad will work just as well. However, I would not use 
the attached brush directly on dirty contacts, as it will introduce 
contaminants into the bottle. The compound appears to be the same as what I 
use. I see an ad above this listing for $15.25 as opposed to the $21.09 in this 
ad. That seems reasonable enough.

 

Greg

 

From: Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Greg Fiorentino
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

 

Greg is this the stuff?   If so, is that a good price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAIG-D100L-2DB-DeoxIT-Brush-Bottle-7-4-ml-/221552642283?hash=item33959108eb:g:u8EAAOSw-jhUGxg9

 

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Thanks, Greg.  The dropper bottle might be the way to go for my tach rather 
than the spray can,

 

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I have used several different packagings of Deoxit. Deoxit has several
different compounds too. I am talking about the red stuff. My experience
with the spray is that the spray fails when only a small portion of the
contents were gone. My technique when the contacts are accessible is to use
the dropper container and q-tips. I saturate the head of a q-tip with the
liquid, then rub the contact to remove the oxidation. If the female contact
can't be cleaned this way I make and break the contacts several times with a
bit of the liquid on the male contact. This has worked well for me.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:11 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: [MBZ] Deoxit question

The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
(stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply Deoxit
which I don't currently own.

Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40 
<http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1> 
&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1

TIA,

Andrew
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1983 300TD white/blue

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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Greg is this the stuff?   If so, is that a good price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAIG-D100L-2DB-DeoxIT-Brush-Bottle-7-4-ml-/221552642283?hash=item33959108eb:g:u8EAAOSw-jhUGxg9

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> Thanks, Greg.  The dropper bottle might be the way to go for my tach
> rather than the spray can,
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I have used several different packagings of Deoxit. Deoxit has several
>> different compounds too. I am talking about the red stuff. My experience
>> with the spray is that the spray fails when only a small portion of the
>> contents were gone. My technique when the contacts are accessible is to
>> use
>> the dropper container and q-tips. I saturate the head of a q-tip with the
>> liquid, then rub the contact to remove the oxidation. If the female
>> contact
>> can't be cleaned this way I make and break the contacts several times
>> with a
>> bit of the liquid on the male contact. This has worked well for me.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
>> Strasfogel via Mercedes
>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:11 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
>> Subject: [MBZ] Deoxit question
>>
>> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
>> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
>> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
>> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
>> Deoxit
>> which I don't currently own.
>>
>> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
>> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
>> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Andrew
>> 1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
>> 1983 300TD white/blue
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks, Greg.  The dropper bottle might be the way to go for my tach rather
than the spray can,

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have used several different packagings of Deoxit. Deoxit has several
> different compounds too. I am talking about the red stuff. My experience
> with the spray is that the spray fails when only a small portion of the
> contents were gone. My technique when the contacts are accessible is to use
> the dropper container and q-tips. I saturate the head of a q-tip with the
> liquid, then rub the contact to remove the oxidation. If the female contact
> can't be cleaned this way I make and break the contacts several times with
> a
> bit of the liquid on the male contact. This has worked well for me.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:11 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
> Subject: [MBZ] Deoxit question
>
> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply Deoxit
> which I don't currently own.
>
> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
>
> TIA,
>
> Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have used several different packagings of Deoxit. Deoxit has several
different compounds too. I am talking about the red stuff. My experience
with the spray is that the spray fails when only a small portion of the
contents were gone. My technique when the contacts are accessible is to use
the dropper container and q-tips. I saturate the head of a q-tip with the
liquid, then rub the contact to remove the oxidation. If the female contact
can't be cleaned this way I make and break the contacts several times with a
bit of the liquid on the male contact. This has worked well for me.

Greg

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Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:11 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: [MBZ] Deoxit question

The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
(stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply Deoxit
which I don't currently own.

Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1

TIA,

Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

BTDT numerous times, and in each case the tach worked maybe for half a day
at most before quitting again. An annoying little voice inside me keeps on
telling me it's the instrument cluster gauge but I really don't want to go
there. For $15 I will throw the dice and try the deoxit.

On Oct 15, 2016 2:59 PM, "Dwight Giles via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Yes I was going to say. If no butts fold over matchbook cover
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI
>
> On Oct 15, 2016 1:49 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Wasn't that the ciggy butt fix?
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 10/15/16 1:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
> >> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
> >> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or
> slightly
> >> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
> >> Deoxit
> >> which I don't currently own.
> >>
> >> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
> >> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
> >> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
> >>
> >> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >> 1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
> >> 1983 300TD white/blue
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

For Andrew, I don't think a roach will work.

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On 10/15/16 2:59 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

Yes I was going to say. If no butts fold over matchbook cover

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Oct 15, 2016 1:49 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
wrote:


Wasn't that the ciggy butt fix?

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On 10/15/16 1:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:


The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
(stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
Deoxit
which I don't currently own.

Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1

TIA,

Andrew
1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
1983 300TD white/blue

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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes I was going to say. If no butts fold over matchbook cover

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Oct 15, 2016 1:49 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Wasn't that the ciggy butt fix?
>
> --R
>
>
> On 10/15/16 1:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
>> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
>> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
>> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply
>> Deoxit
>> which I don't currently own.
>>
>> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
>> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
>> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Andrew
>> 1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
>> 1983 300TD white/blue
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Also, yes, spray both the male and female sections, then plug, in-plug them
several times.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply Deoxit
> which I don't currently own.
>
> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
>
> TIA,
>
> Andrew
> 1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
> 1983 300TD white/blue
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I use this one for such - -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAIG-Laboratories-DeoxIT-Contact-Cleaner-D5s-6-D5-5oz-can-/331541650749?hash=item4d316c1d3d:g:afsAAOSwHnFVibXO


On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
> (stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
> I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
> corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply Deoxit
> which I don't currently own.
>
> Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
> application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
> male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1
>
> TIA,
>
> Andrew
> 1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
> 1983 300TD white/blue
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Re: [MBZ] Deoxit question

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Wasn't that the ciggy butt fix?

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On 10/15/16 1:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

The tach in my 1983 300TD runs only briefly after I fiddle with it
(stuffing something under the retaining collar to tighten the contacts).
I'm thinking it's either the gauge in the instrument cluster  or  slightly
corroded pins in the sending unit.  Easiest option would be to apply Deoxit
which I don't currently own.

Question:  Which type of DeOxit should I purchase that suits this
application?  Is it OK to spray into the femaie housing or just onto the
male pin assembly?  There are several types on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=deoxit&_sop=1

TIA,

Andrew
1985 300TD diamond blue/blue
1983 300TD white/blue

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