Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
Thanks. I know some carbs are "drain-back" but I don't think that works with dual-diaphragm carbs. I never had luck rebuilding mine so I just replace them too. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Mitch Haley via Mercedes > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:53 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations > > On Thu, September 10, 2020 2:17 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > > Does Stihl have some unique carb design that prevents gum and varnish > > formation or so gum and varnish don't matter? > > They use the same Chinese carbs (ZAMA?) as everybody else. > When it gets crudded up, the mechanic throws another one on. > At $20-30 a pop, it's way cheaper than paying the mechanic to rebuild it, and > rebuild kits are pretty much unobtainium for that reason. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
On Thu, September 10, 2020 2:17 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > Does Stihl have some unique carb design that prevents gum and varnish > formation or so gum and varnish don't matter? They use the same Chinese carbs (ZAMA?) as everybody else. When it gets crudded up, the mechanic throws another one on. At $20-30 a pop, it's way cheaper than paying the mechanic to rebuild it, and rebuild kits are pretty much unobtainium for that reason. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
Does Stihl have some unique carb design that prevents gum and varnish formation or so gum and varnish don't matter? > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 10:01 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Jaime Kopchinski > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations > > 7 years ago I purchased a new Stihl chain saw. I've used it maybe once a year > since for storm clean up, etc. I use ethanol fuel in it, I don't drain the > fuel > between uses. In other words, I don't go out of my way to keep it running. > But I always mix stabilizer in with the fuel, and only use the Stihl 2 stroke > oil > with it (which also has stabilizers I believe) > > It starts and runs perfectly every time I use it. No issues at all. > They've really figured out the occasional-use small engine. I highly > recommend them. > > Jaime > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 5:09 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > In an effort to become better prepared should a large storm/hurricane > > pass through, I am considering purchasing a chain saw. > > > > Since it would be something I would rarely use, I’m not looking to buy > > a large professional grade Husqvarna or something like that necessarily. > > However, I would like a good quality saw, not a HF sort of machine. > > > > Suggestions? > > > > -D > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
Dad bought a Harbor Freight electric saw. I can't remember the size, it was around $70 plus a battery. For what it is its a pretty good saw. We've been using it to trim trees and general cutting around camp. We've got a fairly substantial number of hours on it now with no problems at all. It does have a weird chain tension procedure where you push the tip down onto something while tightening. If you don't it tosses the chain after a little cutting. However much you think you know about saws you really need those instructions... -Curt On Tuesday, September 8, 2020, 6:16:31 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Battery pole saws are cool. Gassless handheld chainsaws, electric or battery, are mostly cool, BUT: They're hard to blade brake quickly during a kickback emergency, and kevlar safety chaps don't stop them as fast as something with a clutch either. If you are 100% sure you can keep your body parts off the chain, the low speed torque of an electric motor is an advantage. If you make a wrong move, electrics will punish you for it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
My buddy sells wood and last year quit Stihl after burning up yet another "professional" saw. I forget what he went to, its red anyway... -Curt On Tuesday, September 8, 2020, 5:24:22 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Stihl. All the others are crap. Make sure to use the synthetic oil to mix into the gas --FT On 9/8/20 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > In an effort to become better prepared should a large storm/hurricane pass > through, I am considering purchasing a chain saw. > > Since it would be something I would rarely use, I’m not looking to buy a > large professional grade Husqvarna or something like that necessarily. > However, I would like a good quality saw, not a HF sort of machine. > > Suggestions? > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
Husqvarna 445, its the top end of the consumer market, really a prosumer saw. The bottom end is plastic which reduces vibration and makes it real light for the size. I've had mine for about 10 years now, the average homeowner will never wear one out. Keep an extra chain on hand for when you run yours into the ground or a rock or whatever. They go dull instantly. Whatever you buy get a gallon of canned premix. Yes its way more expensive than mixing your own but its shelf stable. I used to put 3/4 gallon of chainsaw gas through the lawnmower every year, no more... -Curt On Tuesday, September 8, 2020, 5:09:04 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: In an effort to become better prepared should a large storm/hurricane pass through, I am considering purchasing a chain saw. Since it would be something I would rarely use, I’m not looking to buy a large professional grade Husqvarna or something like that necessarily. However, I would like a good quality saw, not a HF sort of machine. Suggestions? -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
On Wed, September 9, 2020 1:32 pm, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > The "0" models are pro-sumer grade and the "1" models are professional > saws. It used to be the odd numbers were consumer and the even were pro, mostly. 024/026/036/044/046 pro 017/021/023/025/029/039 consumer (the 029/039 Farm Boss were boat anchors but every farmer had one and swore by it for reliability) 018/MS180 was just a slightly bigger 017 clamshell saw, had an even number but was not pro series. Then they moved the 0 to the end and added some letters. 036 replaced by MS360, then improvements added a step (361 newer/better than 360, IIRC 362 was the first pro stratocharged saw, so it was an entirely different saw than 361, weighed more but used less fuel). Then they got into autotune and all sorts of different complications after 2010 and I don't entirely know what happened to the numbers since then, but I'm pretty confident that anything with a number like 250 or 251 is the spiritual descendant of the 025 50cc consumer saw, and anything numbered 26x should be a replacement for the similarly sized pro saw. Basically, if two saws are in the same displacement class like 50cc and 50cc, and one's a pound lighter and costs $100-200 more, the expensive one is a pro saw on a cast magnesium chassis and the cheap one is a consumer saw in a plastic clamshell body. For the first 1000 hours or so, the only real difference is going to be the power to weight ratio. Past 1000 hours, the consumer saw will be on its second engine if you didn't part it out and buy a new one. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
The "0" models are pro-sumer grade and the "1" models are professional saws. A real pro wood cutter, cuts wood six+ hours a day, five days a week. Every year, they throw the old one out, and buy new. I bought a ms261 several years ago. If it lasts 1500-2000 hours, it will outlast my ability to cut wood. Hahaha. Depending on the amount of potential cutting you might do, I might consider electric, either corded or cordless. If your neighbors hear a saw, they are GOING to ask to borrow it. Just a thought. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
Lift up the handle, 1/4 turn, pull off, then reverse. Yeah EZ-start or some such. I don’t get why it’s better but whatever... --FT Sent from iPhone > On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:41 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Wed, September 9, 2020 11:28 am, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >> >> The fuel and oil filler caps are on the other side, easy to fill. > > That reminds me, a Stihl dealer should show the new owner how to open and > close the 'flippy caps' so they don't fall off. > >> >> It's a nice saw but has one annoying aspect -- the pull rope is not >> directly engaged to the flywheel, it has a spring the rope winds up then >> the spring turns the flywheel. > > Spring assist EZ start? > I think all the C suffix Stihls have that. > Dolmar came out with it right before Stihl did. > A friend posted a youtube video of his 10 year old daughter starting a > Dolmar 420 about ten years ago but I can't find it now. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
On Wed, September 9, 2020 11:28 am, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > > The fuel and oil filler caps are on the other side, easy to fill. That reminds me, a Stihl dealer should show the new owner how to open and close the 'flippy caps' so they don't fall off. > > It's a nice saw but has one annoying aspect -- the pull rope is not > directly engaged to the flywheel, it has a spring the rope winds up then > the spring turns the flywheel. Spring assist EZ start? I think all the C suffix Stihls have that. Dolmar came out with it right before Stihl did. A friend posted a youtube video of his 10 year old daughter starting a Dolmar 420 about ten years ago but I can't find it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
I have that second one. It's pretty nice. It is easier to deal with the chain in the field, needs no tools but after some use it gets kinda crapped up with the chain oil and sawdust so it is not particularly easy to adjust, but you can take the cover off easily by turning that round knob off (and you loosen that to turn that thumbwheel to adjust the chain) and clean it up too. Probably should do that occasionally anyway but of course I never think to do that until I have to... I keep it in the truck and it is always ready to go which I find quite handy as I use it often. The fuel and oil filler caps are on the other side, easy to fill. ALWAYS use the Stihl synthetic 2-cycle oil, I think it has a lifetime warranty on the engine if you do, ask the dealer about that aspect. I keep a 2gal can in the truck mixed and ready to go, the little oil bottles mix 2 gal so when it gets low I fill the can and dump in a bottle of the oil. It's a nice saw but has one annoying aspect -- the pull rope is not directly engaged to the flywheel, it has a spring the rope winds up then the spring turns the flywheel. Sometimes it takes several pulls to get it going, esp after not being used for awhile, and since it is not directly attached sometimes the spring doesn't catch well or turn over the engine right. So you might get a bit of workout cranking it to get it to start, though sometimes it will start fairly quickly. When new it would start on one pull but after time... but it still starts fairly easily compared to other saws I have had. It also has a chain brake, you push that guard forward and it locks the clutch so you can start it and warm it up without the chain turning, then release it (pull it back) and the chain will spin. I guess it is a running safety feature too in case of kickback. I like that feature as it is safer to start and carry around if it is just idling. I haven't had any trouble with it, I think I might have replaced the plastic primer bulb but those are a constant annoyance on any 2cycle engine so you probably should buy a couple to keep around for when they crack. On a related note, I was using my Stihl weedwhacker the other day and it started making a rattling noise then grenaded and stopped, all these bits were rattling around inside the housing by the motor. I took it apart and the flywheel/fan thingie had completely disintegrated, all the wings on the fan aspect were broken off. I could see no particular reason for that to happen so it was quite weird. Maybe the casting failed, something broke off and then that took everything else with it? Anyway I found a used part on ebay and ordered it, $20 with shipping, should be here in a coupla days. I hope that gets it going, it is a very strange failure. I don't know, maybe these things are just limited-lifetime tools and expectation of more is unreasonable. Buy a set of the carb adjustment tools too (I found a complete set of all the different kinds on Amazon I think, pretty cheap, ebay has them too but shipping from China might take awhile) as at some point you will need to become an EPA scofflaw and Commiefornia felon. I have a Stihl blower, I finally got that thing tuned up to run well with adjustments, it went off and would barely run. I guess over time the jets or the needles clog up or something. I think I have also adjusted the saw and the weedwhacker and they run (ran!) a lot better now. All that said, it is a lot better unit than the Husq and others I have. I have an older Husq, maybe 10yo, it was just a constant mess of annoying random issues every time I wanted to use it, the last being the fuel tank pick up hose disintegrated or something, Looked to be a PITA to deal with, I needed a saw right quick to clean up a fallen tree maybe 3yr ago so I just went and got this Stihl and have been mostly happy with it. I should probably take the Husq to get fixed (I could probably fix it but it annoys me so one of those things to pay someone else to deal with) and have it for a backup. It worked OK when it worked but not particularly reliable when I needed it. I have a chainsaw my dad got when I was like 10yo, a Homelite, a really nice little saw (but minimal safety features) that the same issue happened with the fuel lines and of course there are no parts available for a 55yo saw... Another one for the TODO pile... And there is one my dad had, I think he might have bought it at an auction ages ago, I used it a coupla times but it was a running PITA too, I don't even recall the model. It's sitting in its case too... --FT On 9/9/20 10:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Thanks, everyone! I’m looking at two different Stihl saws, not sure which is better (probably the more expensive one, of course!): https://brandonrentalcentersriverview.stihldealer.net/products/chain-saws/homeowner-saws/ms250/#features_tab This one is a “homeowner’s” model that’s on
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
Thanks, everyone! I’m looking at two different Stihl saws, not sure which is better (probably the more expensive one, of course!): https://brandonrentalcentersriverview.stihldealer.net/products/chain-saws/homeowner-saws/ms250/#features_tab This one is a “homeowner’s” model that’s on sale right now for $300. This one appears to be similar but has some nicer features like automatic chain tensioning: https://brandonrentalcentersriverview.stihldealer.net/products/chain-saws/homeowner-saws/ms251cbe/ Thoughts? Opinions? -D > On Sep 9, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > 7 years ago I purchased a new Stihl chain saw. I've used it maybe once a > year since for storm clean up, etc. I use ethanol fuel in it, I don't > drain the fuel between uses. In other words, I don't go out of my way to > keep it running. But I always mix stabilizer in with the fuel, and only > use the Stihl 2 stroke oil with it (which also has stabilizers I believe) > > It starts and runs perfectly every time I use it. No issues at all. > They've really figured out the occasional-use small engine. I highly > recommend them. > > Jaime > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 5:09 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> In an effort to become better prepared should a large storm/hurricane pass >> through, I am considering purchasing a chain saw. >> >> Since it would be something I would rarely use, I’m not looking to buy a >> large professional grade Husqvarna or something like that necessarily. >> However, I would like a good quality saw, not a HF sort of machine. >> >> Suggestions? >> >> -D >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
7 years ago I purchased a new Stihl chain saw. I've used it maybe once a year since for storm clean up, etc. I use ethanol fuel in it, I don't drain the fuel between uses. In other words, I don't go out of my way to keep it running. But I always mix stabilizer in with the fuel, and only use the Stihl 2 stroke oil with it (which also has stabilizers I believe) It starts and runs perfectly every time I use it. No issues at all. They've really figured out the occasional-use small engine. I highly recommend them. Jaime On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 5:09 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > In an effort to become better prepared should a large storm/hurricane pass > through, I am considering purchasing a chain saw. > > Since it would be something I would rarely use, I’m not looking to buy a > large professional grade Husqvarna or something like that necessarily. > However, I would like a good quality saw, not a HF sort of machine. > > Suggestions? > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
On Wed, September 9, 2020 2:47 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > You can store 2-cycle oil a long time but the gas must be fresh. $6/qt is expensive for a saw you use all the time, but for emergency unplanned usage the canned premix that isn't really 'gasoline' is what you want. Sealed shelf life is a LONG time. Maybe a year or two after opening. One or two strokes per tooth with a file every time you run out of gas keeps a chain very sharp. Count strokes and sharpen every tooth the same. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
On Wed, September 9, 2020 12:00 am, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > I told him I didn't care what it cost, if it worked well > when I needed it. And that's what I bought, an 036. 036/361/362 was the standard 60cc pro saw for a long time. That and the Husky 359XP, but the Stihl was usually the preferred device. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
I have heard the new battery powered saws are quite good. No premix bs, no carb adjustment or rebuild bs, just keep a sharp chain and a spare couple of charged batteries and Bob's your uncle. I personally have a pro grade Stihl, a HF pole saw, and a HF plug in that I bought on sale and have yet to use. I will be using it later today and I can report back if you like. I would also recommend pro grade chain, not the low kickback consumer crap that comes with a saw. Makes a world of difference. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: September 8, 2020 4:09 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations In an effort to become better prepared should a large storm/hurricane pass through, I am considering purchasing a chain saw. Since it would be something I would rarely use, I’m not looking to buy a large professional grade Husqvarna or something like that necessarily. However, I would like a good quality saw, not a HF sort of machine. Suggestions? -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
Living in the Panhandle, I had to cut my way out to the road more than once. Electric chain saws are great for occasional light use but not for hurricanes, even if you have power and a fast charger. A consumer gas saw (like Poulan Pro/Wild Thing) should be fine for emergency hurricane use but completely drain fuel and run the carb dry before storing. Also, get a chain file and learn how to touch up the chain. Just a few strokes with the file can make a world of difference in cutting speed. A spare chain is not a bad idea; you will likely need it eventually. You can store 2-cycle oil a long time but the gas must be fresh. Almost all chain saw no-start and hard-start problems are caused by stale fuel left in the saw. Carbs are inexpensive and easy to replace but that won't help immediately after a hurricane unless you pre-ordere a spare. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan > Penoff via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 5:08 PM > To: Mercedes List > Cc: Dan Penoff > Subject: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations > > In an effort to become better prepared should a large storm/hurricane pass > through, I am considering purchasing a chain saw. > > Since it would be something I would rarely use, I’m not looking to buy a large > professional grade Husqvarna or something like that necessarily. However, I > would like a good quality saw, not a HF sort of machine. > > Suggestions? > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
When my fraidy-cat (would die whenever you showed the saw wood, but it would run fine otherwise) saw that came with the house PO'd me one too many times I asked my brother what was a good saw. Stihl, he said, but it was expensive. I told him I didn't care what it cost, if it worked well when I needed it. And that's what I bought, an 036. Still using it 25 years later. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We have had a Crazy East wind event here in Western Oregon with nearly 30MPH sustained winds with gusts to 60-70MPH! It was enough to topple a significant section of the neighbor’s poplar tree sending it through the fence, across the shared private driveway and nearly into another neighbor’s living room window! He got his Stihl chain saw out and got right to work. That 20” saw was awesome! It didn’t have any trouble, and restarted easily. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB 1600mi, Low Mileage Lutgard 1982 240D 200K+ miles with a 112Kmi engine, High Mileage Hildegard, still up on the lift Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 8, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Stihl. All the others are crap. Make sure to use the synthetic oil to mix > into the gas > > --FT > >> On 9/8/20 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> In an effort to become better prepared should a large storm/hurricane pass >> through, I am considering purchasing a chain saw. >> >> Since it would be something I would rarely use, I’m not looking to buy a >> large professional grade Husqvarna or something like that necessarily. >> However, I would like a good quality saw, not a HF sort of machine. >> >> Suggestions? >> >> -D >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
Battery pole saws are cool. Gassless handheld chainsaws, electric or battery, are mostly cool, BUT: They're hard to blade brake quickly during a kickback emergency, and kevlar safety chaps don't stop them as fast as something with a clutch either. If you are 100% sure you can keep your body parts off the chain, the low speed torque of an electric motor is an advantage. If you make a wrong move, electrics will punish you for it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
Oh, and I bought this electric pole saw at HF a coupla weeks ago for $60. Extends to like 10ft or so so you can reach some branches. It's mostly plastic but I have been (ab)using it a bit lately and I am quite impressed by it. Maybe 9"? bar, will do some sizable branches. I have one of those tailgator generators that is sufficient to power it, I put that in the back of the truck with a 100ft extension cord and can go around the vast estate and cut lots of low branches and trash trees that sprout up. If you don't have a lot of big trees you might have to deal with, an electric chain saw and generator (which you said you installed?) would probably work pretty well, HF have some that aren't too bad. I have an old Sears electric chainsaw with maybe a 16" bar that I have had forever, it works pretty well for anything up to maybe 6" or 8" but doesn't have enough power to do much bigger. There are even Li battery-powered saws now that I suppose would be OK for random fallen stuff but probably nothing too big. --FT On 9/8/20 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: In an effort to become better prepared should a large storm/hurricane pass through, I am considering purchasing a chain saw. Since it would be something I would rarely use, I’m not looking to buy a large professional grade Husqvarna or something like that necessarily. However, I would like a good quality saw, not a HF sort of machine. Suggestions? -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
For occasional (under 25hours/10 years) use a Poulan Wild Thing was actually a decent choice. Effectively a Husky clamshell body saw with a cheap cylinder and chromed piston. 25-50 hr motor instead of 1000-2000 hour motor. I think my dad paid $125 for his. Just checked, discontinued. Poulan Pro would be closer in quality to a homeowner Husky, Amazon has for $170 42cc or $200 50cc. Echo was always Stihl like durability with lower power and higher weight, but they started getting the performance up about ten years ago. Don't know if they still have the 5 year consumer warranty. Redmax/Zenoah used to have some nice little pro saws. I believe Electrolux/Husky bought them, so lines may have merged by now, like Husky/Jonsered. I've got a Ryobi that's the made in Japan Zenoah engine in Chinese plastic. Was great until the ignition switch broke, then a couple tank of fuel later the recoil starter broke (possibly from hard starting caused by using the choke to shut it off). I have two more Ryobis sitting new in box, and come to think of it I have at least two brand new John Deere (Italian Efco in green bodies) in the garage at the lake. The 60cc Deere was nearly the equivalent of the Stihl MS361 of its day. If Home Depot still rents Makitas made in Germany, those are blue pro grade Dolmars, try to snag a used rental cheap. Unfortunately my knowledge isn't all that current, witness the fact that I didn't know until just now that the Wild Thing was gone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chain Saw Recommendations
Stihl. All the others are crap. Make sure to use the synthetic oil to mix into the gas --FT On 9/8/20 5:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: In an effort to become better prepared should a large storm/hurricane pass through, I am considering purchasing a chain saw. Since it would be something I would rarely use, I’m not looking to buy a large professional grade Husqvarna or something like that necessarily. However, I would like a good quality saw, not a HF sort of machine. Suggestions? -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
