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fit in right for the cutoff to work (however it works) - I've observed some motorcyclists holding the nozzle at odd angles etc I also seem to remember something about the law being amended on safety grounds with Bikes are too hard for the usual MPJ to be able to figure out the nuances of each one. So they, in a fit of sensibility, let the owners do it as they _are_ better trained on that particular bike! It has everything to do with spilling gas all over, whether on shiny paint or not. -- Jim
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My understanding from having ridden in OR and having a bunch of us descend upon a station, as well as having a pal as DM for BP. The pump monkey is able to service a number of cars simultaneously while he can only do one bike at a time. More anal bike riders get peeved when the monkey scratched the paint of his pretty bike, and spilled fuel really got them going. If there are six pumps, the bikes will take all the hoses and be gone in five gallons. More time is spend processing payment. With six cars, the pumps are doing 10-20 gallons and there is time to deal with each individual client. Also found that with a diesel, the monkey will ignore you and allow you to pump, since he is not interested in smelling like fuel, and more able to service the petro cars On Thursday, January 19, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Levi Smith wrote: Personally I think self-serve bikes in a full-serve station makes no sense. Basically because: -I can't possibly fathom having someone else pour gas into your lap making any sense. AND -I can't possibly fathom how the government could be smart enough to agree... (: And, you do kind of hold the handle at an angle (I'm sure it depends on the bike), in my case, with the nozzle all the way in the shutoff shuts it off long before I reach the top. So then you have to kind of pull it out some to get more in, but at the same time trying not to spill it all over your bike and/or yourself... (: Levi On 1/19/06, Tim C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh - never had a bike, so don't know. I was just making a guess as to why motorcyclists might get to do their own. Thought maybe the nozzle didn't fit in right for the cutoff to work (however it works) - I've observed some motorcyclists holding the nozzle at odd angles etc I also seem to remember something about the law being amended on safety grounds with motorcycles for some reason - but I'm really grasping at straws of vague memories now. So, yeah, who knows - laws and reasons for them are often simply maddening. T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:55 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes ... now OR gas rant Hmm, cutoff always works for me on my bike Levi (: ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- It isn't what you have, or who you are, or where you are, or what you are doing that makes you happy or unhappy. It is what you think about. -Dale Carnegie ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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@!%)*#%)^$%!)[EMAIL PROTECTED])*^#)%^#%)*%#. I #%)(*#%ing _hate_ having moron high-school-dropout pump jockeys touch anything that touches my cars H. I have made it standard practice to get out and supervise every fillup, ever since the MH-S-DPJ went for the regular instead of premium nozzle filling my 944 - of course, I'm still buckled in, yelling at him, trying to get out of car, etc...then of course I'm in Klamath Falls, which (for those not familiar) is beyond the shallow end of the gene pool - we are talking the separate kiddie wading pool with lots of pee in it, with a broken pump and no chlorination - so I go inside to get a refund for the amount of wrong gas that was pumped in, and the mouth-breathing troglodyte can't understand what the problem could possibly be - the idea that they would actually need to compensate for their screw-up was like The Refund Request From Outer Space or something!!! Anyway, I'm only in this hell-hole till I get out of school round 2, and I will never locate in a place with this stupid law ever again Oh, two more MH-S-DPJ stories - one was the guy who, in trying to get the gas nozzle to stay (chancy at best on the 944) so he could wander off and pick his nose, tried to insert the nozzle upside down and lean it on the open filler door - which is not in the slightest bit a load-bearing part. At least this occurred after the supervision-always policy had been implemented. Every time now, I just tell them they have to hold it - don't even try making it rest on the fender. This has produced several brilliant engineering analyses - I wonder why they designed this like that. Probably they had other considerations in mind, and it never occurred to them that some complete retard would be touching the car The other one was pulling into station - first fillup on the 300SD actually - clatter and all - this station has a separate pump island for diesel - MH-S-DPJ watches (and presumably hears) me pull up, and still confirms that you do need diesel? Sigh. I guess I should be grateful after reading the story below though!!! Ah, and the worst part is, I had heard anecdotally that if you had a diesel you could fill it yourself here - turns out that only applies to commercial users (I'm guessing this exception exists simply because a truck stop would have to have an army of guys filling rigs that take a long time to fill). So I was all excited, but then got to have this trog tell me that no, I don't actually get to fill it myself if I want By the way, AFAIK, this law is in place not for environmental or safety reasons, but to create jobs for MH-S-DPJs. I'm sure there are defenders of the law that cite how nice it is for Granny on fixed income to not have to pump gas on slippery ice and pay more than the self-serve types (nice false logic anyway, since the price is higher for everyone - funny how public nanny types don't go the other way - It would be good for Granny to save a few bucks a month by being able to pump her own), but the primary reason appears to be job creation...this is also anecdotal but from several sources. T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make That's probably the one nice thing about not having self-serve gas in Oregon! If the moron high-school-dropout pump jockey makes that mistake, the station owner, not me, will be shelling out the cost of the necessary repairs. I've been thinking about this a lot lately since the station I usually go to (convenient on the way home from work) seems to have just hired a new batch of said morons, all of whom need to be told IT'S A D-ZEL! loudly and slowly three or four times before they get the message and reach for the green-handled pump. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
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On Jan 19, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Tim C wrote: MH-S-DPJ OK, I give up. What does this mean? Johnny B iMac therefore I am
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Come on Tim, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:40 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes ... now OR gas rant @!%)*#%)^$%!)[EMAIL PROTECTED])*^#)%^#%)*%#. I #%)(*#%ing _hate_ having moron high-school-dropout pump jockeys touch anything that touches my cars H. I have made it standard practice to get out and supervise every fillup, ever since the MH-S-DPJ went for the r
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moron high-school-dropout pump jockeys -- +-- GG 1997 SL500 (99k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +-- On 1/19/06 11:16 AM, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 19, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Tim C wrote: MH-S-DPJ OK, I give up. What does this mean? Johnny B iMac therefore I am
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New Jersey had the same law last time I was there - and for the same reason, best I could tell. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
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Say I thought that in Oregon you can pump your own diesel, because the law only applies to pumping gasoline. Yes an om617 will run on 6 parts gasoline, 1 part diesel. Not recommended, ran just under $300 for car rental, flushing, disposal, etc including the cost of $60 for the gas... On 19-Jan-06, at 8:40 AM, Tim C wrote: @!%)*#%)^$%!)[EMAIL PROTECTED])*^#)%^#%)*%#. I #%)(*#%ing _hate_ having moron high-school-dropout pump jockeys touch anything that touches my cars John 1983 300TDt 360k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 158k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 170k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
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Yeah, the original poster had used this phrase - I found it hilarious/perfect, so I quoted it, then started abbreviating it. If you skim even a little bit it's hard to catch. Not a common Internet abbreviation like TTYL, TIA, IIRC, OSLT. (Last one - Or Something Like That, one that I came up with and am trying to propagate). T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Gregory Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:58 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes ... now OR gas rant moron high-school-dropout pump jockeys -- +-- GG 1997 SL500 (99k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +-- On 1/19/06 11:16 AM, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 19, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Tim C wrote: MH-S-DPJ OK, I give up. What does this mean? Johnny B iMac therefore I am
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Hmm, cutoff always works for me on my bike Levi (: On 1/19/06, Tim C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what I thought too, but apparently that's not the case. You can pump your own on a motorcycle - not sure if that's just due to the automatic cutoff not working on a bike, or what. I was all excited to get a diesel and be able to pump my own (previous Sube and current 300 = daily driver, 944 = occasional use esp as we are in mountains - snow/ice aplenty here, so less frequent aggravation with that car), but I sure am not getting a bike (personal decision to avoid the risk, plus see snow/ice - some guys ride in winter here though) T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John M McIntosh Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:37 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes ... now OR gas rant Say I thought that in Oregon you can pump your own diesel, because the law only applies to pumping gasoline. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- It isn't what you have, or who you are, or where you are, or what you are doing that makes you happy or unhappy. It is what you think about. -Dale Carnegie
Re: [MBZ] mistakes ... now OR gas rant
Personally I think self-serve bikes in a full-serve station makes no sense. Basically because: -I can't possibly fathom having someone else pour gas into your lap making any sense. AND -I can't possibly fathom how the government could be smart enough to agree... (: And, you do kind of hold the handle at an angle (I'm sure it depends on the bike), in my case, with the nozzle all the way in the shutoff shuts it off long before I reach the top. So then you have to kind of pull it out some to get more in, but at the same time trying not to spill it all over your bike and/or yourself... (: Levi On 1/19/06, Tim C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh - never had a bike, so don't know. I was just making a guess as to why motorcyclists might get to do their own. Thought maybe the nozzle didn't fit in right for the cutoff to work (however it works) - I've observed some motorcyclists holding the nozzle at odd angles etc I also seem to remember something about the law being amended on safety grounds with motorcycles for some reason - but I'm really grasping at straws of vague memories now. So, yeah, who knows - laws and reasons for them are often simply maddening. T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:55 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes ... now OR gas rant Hmm, cutoff always works for me on my bike Levi (: ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- It isn't what you have, or who you are, or where you are, or what you are doing that makes you happy or unhappy. It is what you think about. -Dale Carnegie
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Sense/gov't - LOL :/ Shutoff - ah, this makes sense - wonder if a few bike guys got gas in their laps when inept gas station twit couldn't figure this procedure out T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes ... now OR gas rant Personally I think self-serve bikes in a full-serve station makes no sense. Basically because: -I can't possibly fathom having someone else pour gas into your lap making any sense. AND -I can't possibly fathom how the government could be smart enough to agree... (: And, you do kind of hold the handle at an angle (I'm sure it depends on the bike), in my case, with the nozzle all the way in the shutoff shuts it off long before I reach the top. So then you have to kind of pull it out some to get more in, but at the same time trying not to spill it all over your bike and/or yourself... (: Levi
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On Jan 19, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Tim C wrote: Huh - never had a bike, so don't know. I was just making a guess as to why motorcyclists might get to do their own. Thought maybe the nozzle didn't fit in right for the cutoff to work (however it works) - I've observed some motorcyclists holding the nozzle at odd angles etc I also seem to remember something about the law being amended on safety grounds with motorcycles for some reason - but I'm really grasping at straws of vague memories now. So, yeah, who knows - laws and reasons for them are often simply maddening. T Basically, the reason is for the safety of the attendant. Many have caught an ass whoppin' for spilling fuel on custom paint jobs, hot engines and biker's crotches. Johnny B iMac therefore I am
