Ray ,
If you're on Mac, I've you tried some applescript to convert all
your excel files to tab/return test files ?
JB
Greetings,I'm using "open
file myPath for binary read" to read an Excel file and I'm getting lots
of garbage characters since I believe it's Microsoft's proprietary binary
Recently, Karl Becker wrote:
Am I dreaming, or does MetaCard
actually run things faster than Revolution?
It's quite possible this is true in the IDE, but as a standalone it's
unlikely. They're run by the same engine.
well, several times I had the experience of a stack created with
The
reasoning against using the number was that it can change. I don't
recall the reasoning behind the name,
may be that was that names won't change...
But in one instance I chose to use the ID numbers, and now I'm SORRY
SORRY SORRY! Because when updating the program adding/deleting
Can you elaborate? What kind of details? And did you mean intrinsic or
explicit? ;-)
* PHP is safer than CGI unless you add a lot to CGI ;
Actually, MC CGIs are probably the most secure as they will only run
scripts that are in the cgi-bin folder with the engine. You can't send
it a
On the topic of this link :
http://www.sltrib.com/2004/Feb/02082004/business/136566.asp
AFAIR someone mentioned Terminator,
but did anyone noticed that Stephen Thaler's
Creativity Machine Paradigm has been used
to design warheads for US Air Force ?
JB
Pierre Sahores a *crit :
I'm associating me to the Chipp's second question : how could we gohead
with good practices to design and code to life a small team of
intelligent agents in MC/Rev ?
Same interest here...
There is, among some other great books about Artificial Life, an
usefull
Robert,
Yes, I have been running a MC-based CGI for a couple years now. But
it is a different story depending on the OS.
OK, but I've been using MC/Rev-based cgi for almost 2 years as well...
My question actually focused on MC/Rev-based cgi with Valentina
database...
And keep in mind that
Richard Gaskin :
That post explained _what_ was acheived, but not _why_ it couldn't be done
with fewer fields. Did I miss something obvious?
I'm curious too: Why not just one field, or at most a different field for
each column.
I tried that option (a different field per column) as a
J. Landman Gay :
MetaCard's Save menu command includes a compact stack. That's what is
probably taking the time. It should save much faster if you type save
this stack into the message box.
Just tried it : things get even worst : saving a stack with 2000 flds takes
15 min, when it took
Hi list,
I have a stack with only 1 card, and 10,000 fields
on that card. I can modify these fields without any
problem (resize them, change location and content, etc)
but when I save the stack, MC crashes (freezes).
So my question is not whether it is wise to have so many
controls on 1 card,
Richard Gaskin :
May just be a memory issue, esp. given that you're using Mac Classic.
Why do you need 10,000 fields?
he he he... I knew I would get such questions...
For short let's say I'm testing MC limits...
And I think I've found a possible answer to my question...
I've created a new
Have you considered custom properties as an alternative?
Mmmh... what do you mean exactly ?
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Is there a way to set the border of a field to dash ?
Thanks,
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Hi again,
Is there a specialist of Excel on this list ?
In a project for 1 of my clients, I have a flat database
on a server whose content is set via a sophisticated
HTML form and a couple of MC cgi scripts.
This flat database is a tab-return file with 100 rows
and 100 cols.
My client wants to
I guess so, although I'd probably want a lawyer to take a good look just in
case one of you guys implements something that would add value to Rev.
However, if it's GPL it's just another good reason for you to go with a
plugin architecture.
I know it sounds like a newbie question but anyway,
Richard,
jbv wrote:
could someone be kind enough to explain to me briefly how does
this plugin arch. work in Rev ?
Basically it's just a menu built dynamically to provide quick access to
stack files in a Plugins folder. Rev builds its menu at startup, but my
own plugins menu works so
Robert Brenstein a écrit:
If Revolution were modified so that only the basic functionality was
implemented in the IDE and all other features were implemented as modules
that could be turned off would that satisfy everyone? If so, perhaps we
could develop a proposal for RunRev to implement
Alejandro Tejada a écrit:
Hi developers,
Can I propose a Bezier Drawing tool
for the MC ide?
I could prepare something for the middle
of the next week.
It will include a tool to modify
polygon graphics using bezier curves.
Who could help me to review and
enhance the code?
I can
I personally dont see an economic
reason why this should be limited. I do see reasons to abandon MC/RR more
and more...
Sad but true...
I dont mind evolution of products,
but Im against limiting of features while essential things like a good
Script Editors or debugger are still as arcane as
I know that this limitation will cause of to rewrite sections some of
my existing products.
I remember in HC and OMO using scripts of controls to hold
data. In case scripts of controls in MC are used for the same
purpose (holding data, and not executable code), could custom
props be a nice
Hi again,
I'm afraid there's a little confusion in the word implementation.
The only purpose of the demo I put online was to show that
realtime communication between MC and openGL was possible,
as well as displaying the rendered image in an MC img control.
Of course the final purpose is to have
I am excited about your work.
Thank you so much.After the lack of response to my post from 2 weeks ago,
I thought everyone had lost interest in it...
It would extra cool if we could
import 3d objects in from modeling apps as well.
I didn't include that option in the demo, but it's one
of
Hi all,
I'm a bit surprised by the lack of response to
my post from 2 weeks ago regarding the best
way to implement openGL in MC...
Has everybody lost interest in that feature ?
Or is everyone on vacation ? Or has WW4
already began ?
Regards,
JB
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Rodney,
At first glance, the data looks like octal (base 8), and therefore
I'd be tempted to use baseconvert to convert it to base 10...
For instance :
put baseconvert(377, 8, 10) -- 255
But I'm somewhat puzzled by things like Exif or MM in the
code...
JB
Hi everyone,
I need to
Weird cause Im using windows
with some 750 MB's of ram (*1.2 swap files)
MC usually doesn't go beyond
30MB's of ram usage (go figure for what!)
To me part of the problem seems
that the allocation of the image space in the
stack is not "solid" - it is
not compactable it seems for one, and once
I still think the free StarterKit was the best thing ever.
One could play with it, get used to the app and even build useful
things :-)
and 30 (contiguous?) days may be not enough, even with no script
limits...
And BTW is this 30 days trial a valid / useful protection ?
I know ppl
Richard, what you suggest are all workabouts. And the fact that this
groups is 100% against the change does not mean it will not go into
effect. This issue barely caused a blink on Rev list and that is
where majority of Rev users are. We are soon to be a true minority
and our interest in
How many, who have purchased licenses, use MC/Rev to build
standalones, that will be distributed to others?
I don't create much for my own use. 99% of
everything I do, is for distribution, to produce income.
The rest of you?
I would say 80% to produce income, the rest is for my
own use,
My understanding is that WW4 has begun.
Oh I see... When did it begin ? When Runrev
bought MC ?;-P
I think you'll need to write an external that draws directly into a
window - maybe something like the life external demo?
Well, drawing into a window isn't too difficult, and can be
done
Richard Gaskin :
Custom properties are a very powerful feature of not only Rev but other
xTalks as well, including ToolBook, Gain Momentum, and SuperCard. Well
worth taking an evening to experiment with...
Which confirms my first impression.
BTW I guess that a custom property can also
I would still like to know exactly what the new changes will affect,
in case it is something that my current projects use.
Telling the truth, I must confess that I share Shari's worries.
I'm afraid this script limit thing might be the first of a long
list of unexpected (and undocumented /
Hi everyone,
In view of the future, and with regards to what is running,
how can you know if it is MetaCard or RR running your stack?
Well, at first glance I see 2 options :
- checking the version : if it's beyond 2.5 it must be RR;
otherwise, no way to know...
- if it's a standalone, the
Thank you all for your kind answers and wise
recommendations to test the standalone on a
Windoze machine before releasing it.
But actually the reason why I decided to build
the Win standalone on a Mac is because I'm
facing another problem : a Win standalone
built on an XP machine doesn't launch
Hi list,
Although I don't have much time to spend on this
project these days, I managed to build an external
for accessing openGL on Mac. Since it's Carbon
compatible, it should run on OS8.6 to OSX (haven't
tested it on OSX though).
As I already achieved something similar on Win32
a few months
Alejandro,
Tonight, I test your handler and I'm getting
two list of points. But in the first list,
the X coordinate is the same for all the
numbers of the list!
What I'm doing wrong?
Maybe this part is the problem. It returns the
same number.
-- INITIALIZES step value AND fixed x
in your last email, but if that new
solution is really computationally intensive,
I guess I'll stick with linear interpolation which
isn't too slow after all...
By the way jbv, you made a demostration of openGL
in MetaCard. Are you going to keep working in
this demo? or Abandoned the idea
BTW in the EPStoMetacard stack (I'm not sure
I'm using the last version though), and more
specifically in the bezier handler, is there a way
to modify the equations used to get x values (and
the corresponding y values) EQUALLY SPACED
on the x axis ?
Oviously, it has to do with the way v1 and v2
I managed to compile an external into a CODE
ressource and place it into mchelp.mc, just as
indicated in the ReadMe file under system 9.
So I'm happy, but still have a practical question
though : if I modify the C source code and
recompile it, it seems that Code Warrior refuses
to simply replace
Richard,
When I run the WebMerge tutorial here on the slowest machine I have (Win 95,
300MHz), it generates the tutoprial pages in 3.9 seconds. I have a
customer running Win98 on a 1.7GHz maxchine and the same files take 4
minutes to process.(!)
Does your customer have things like Kazaa
://www.sonsothunder.com/
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Thank you all for your help suggestions.
Unfortunately, none of them helped solving
my problem...
Below
Pierre Andu ,
andu a écrit :
When it comes to browsers they should be considered bugged when they work...
I'd like to understand why people use javascript when they can do with
plain html.
Allo Andu,
I agree with you. Most browser-side problems are happening in parsing
..js
Thank you all for your help suggestions.
Unfortunately, none of them helped solving
my problem...
Below you'll find a few more info on what
I'm trying to do, comments on some suggestions
and finally some feature requests for future versions
of MC.
Basically, I need to sort a variable featuring 5
Hello again,
I have a rather odd request regarding the installation
of MC on a server running Apache for CGI applications,
both from standard web pages and from MC standlones.
MC has been installed on 2 of our servers several months
ago and I've used it successfully for a couple of projects
and
Pierre,
It's, basicaly, two ways you can install mc to have it running behind
Apache.
1.- As a simple cgi engine : just drop the mc engine where you want (but
not in a directory where any bad guy will expect to find it) and add the
right path head your mc-cgi scripts, alike #!/the
Hi everybody,
Sorting a variable made of various lines with several items
in each line with the sort command is easy :
sort lines of Myvariable by item 2 of each
But how can I sort a variable featuring 4 lines with several
hundreds of items in each, so that (for instance) items of
line 4
Hi list,
How do I use setregistry when a key features more than 1 value ?
I'm somewhat puzzled coz after some web search, I found different
infos :
- some ppl say that the Windows registry should contain several
times the same entry with a different value for each
- others say that the same
Hi everyone,
Is there a way to know (by script)
when a standalone becomes the active
app in the foreground (on Windoze
Mac) ?
Thanks,
JB
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Hi again,
I still have a problem when tracking mouse
keyboard events on Windoze when a QT
movie is playing : all events are kind of buffered
and processed only when the movie has come
to its end...
It's rather disturbing, especially in apps where
users are allowed to grab moving objects while
Hi folks,
The info slips my mind right now...
Could someone remind me which MC version
was the first to allow the use of a PNG img as
a source for non-rectangular odd shaped cards,
and what is the name of the associated property ?
Thanks in advance,
JB
Hi list,
The demo of an external / DLL bridging the gap
between MC and openGL is available at :
http://www.netchampagne.com/demoopengl/
It should remain there for 1 or 2 weeks.
It's a 1.64 Mb zip archive, featuring a MC standalone
and a DLL. So far, it's only Win32 compatible.
Once unzipped, to
Ken Ray wrote :
What's the minimum requirements in your opinion to get decent performance?
Performance depends mostly on openGl code
(number of vertices, etc), not on the DLL itself
which only passes data to the openGL libraries.
The last few days we've been experimenting on
a K16 CPU at
The only way i know to simulate this kind of stuffs under IPV4 is to use
the server-side cgi or app to store some parameters in a server-side
file witch can be tested by a on-idle alike command working on the
client-side app. I never tested this successfully before in using a
web-based app
Well hot soup, that sounds like some good stuff.
Screenshots, examples, anything would be interesting to see. Is the
speed really acceptable, and is it drawing this directly in a
MetaCard window?
I'm somewhat more than busy right now finishing a couple of
CD-ROMs, and the guy with whom
Well, I'm actually a bolding guy in his 40's
So, you were once meek, but are now getting bolder as you get older? :)
Yoop !
Balding guy, that's what I meant...
JB
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Hi all,
Is there a way, from within a MC script, to open the
default email client (I know how to do that) AND to
have a new email window automatically opened
WITH a certain file automatically attached to that
message ?
Or may be is there a way to do that with the SMPT
protocol with libURL (I've
Hi list,
First I want to point out that I've read the archives
and am aware of Scott's advice to not use a repeat
loop inside a mousedown handler, but to use
mousemove / mouserelease instead.
However, I'm facing a problem for which using
a repeat loop inside a mousedown seems to be the
only
I already tried that : problem was the same.
JB
I used
a procedure similar to this once but instead of:
repeat until the mouse
is up
I used:
repeat while the mouse
is down
I do not recall ever experiencing
a problem with it not stopping to scroll. You might try that just
to see if it
I made a couple of small improvements to the
bezier handler (see code below) :
1) the number of steps for the bezier curve
is stored in a variable Nsteps
2) successive duplicates in the list of points
for the graphic are removed
Anyway, I tried to modify / increase the # of
steps for the
Very interesting promising attempt.
The problem however seems to be aliasing
of the rendered graphics.
Is there any way to improve that ?
I didn't have much time to spend on this,
so I simply tried to increase the number
of steps in the Bezier computation, but
the final graphic gets all messed
Does anyone have a script to removing HTML from a string/chunk/whole file?
I think the following is safer, coz I've often seen javascript code
after the body :
function html2text htmlRaw
# trim all html tag
put offset(body,htmlRaw) into bodyStart
if bodyStart 0 then
delete char 1
Nice to know you're thinking ahead, Scott -- I can hardly wait to get started
writing systems with multiple gigabyte-plus scripts! ;-)
--
I was wondering : when compared to my projects made with
HC and OMO between 1987 and 96, the size of my current
projects under MC has increased (mainly
I'm wondering : what is the most expensive ?
Is it lineoffset, or is it :
put j tab line thisLine of bigList return after mergedList
I vaguely recall some discussion about adding new lines at the end of
a variable inside a loop, and the loop getting slower slower...
I'm even pretty
Hi,
After the enthusiasm triggered by my suggestion to have
built-in access to openGL, I am wondering :
is there any chance to see that feature added to MC in a
near future, or is it wiser to start working on a DLL /
external ?
Thanks.
JB
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Hi list,
Has anyone tried to build a DLL/external to link
MC with openGL ?
The idea is pretty straightforward : one should be
able to call openGL functions and have the result
displayed in the standard mc window.
I really need this feature for a project I'm working
on at the moment, so any link
Shari,
Please, don't speak or think like that. There are no differences, betwin
boys and girls, in the logical abilities scope. Don't listen for the
ones that says or think otherwise ;-)
Agreed : quite often, boys can get as stupid as girls...;-)
JB
Sorry if I'm late on this thread.
Shortly, here's what I'm presently doing with mc cgi.
There's a rally going on in the desert of south Marocco
(for more detail : http://www.tropheeaichadesgazelles.com/)
Each vehicle features a GPS system. GPS data are sent via
satellite, then via email (as
andu :
create alias x to file y
Well, I tried that already, but sadly it doesn't work...
Actually, it does create a file on the desktop, but the
target of the alias / shortcut is missing, and when
I doubleclick on it nothing happens (at least on Win98).
What am I doing wrong ?
Thanks
JB
Hi,
I am writing for a client an installation procedure
to install a MC standalone + the data folder from
a CDROM to the end user HD (on Windows).
The client also wants an alias to be automatically
installed on the desktop.
How can this be done from a MC script ?
Thanks
JB
Hi folks,
I'm presently working on a project for which I'd like to
get some suggestions (at least for 1 part of it)...
Emails will be received several times a day at a specific
address. Each email will feature an attached file (actually
a tab-return set of data).
What I need to do is : every
Check this :
http://www.mcbeen.com/wdefs/
JB
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Phil Davis :
(To test it, you could add a beep or 'put CLOSING ' statement in the handler and
see if anything new happens upon close.)
Although it's a clever suggestion, I find it quite funny (and refreshing) that ppl
use statements as simple as beep to check if anything happens...
Jus like
How can I restart a Mac from within a MC script ?
Should I use applevents, and send quit to the Finder
or something similar ?
Thanks.
JB
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Hi list,
I already posted that question a few months ago, but am
wondering if anyone has done any new experiments in
that field : I'm working on the idea of a web app made of
a MC standalone, but because of the content purpose
of that app, re-shaping it as a screen saver would be
much cooler...
(or other application)
Using this technique it is possible to decouple the launched application
from your stack.
This behavior has bugged me ever since I started MC to launch external
applications. Thanks to list member JBV (sorry, I don't know this person's
name) I've built out a workaround
Hi list,
I need to draw a line 'on the fly' between 2 points whose
coordinates x,y will appear at random on a card.
At first I thought I could use a graphic control : it works
very well except for graphic quality : aliasing produces ugly
lines that don't fit with the rest of the graphics on the
Hi folks,
I completed yesterday (evening late) a big project with
several stacks featuring lots of imported graphics etc on 2.3.
The whole thing weights 30 Mb as a standalone.
It features several stacks (only 1 opened at a time, destroy
stack on close selected on each stack etc...).
Hi again folks,
Some of you might remember the question I asked
about 12 days ago about opening processes under
Windoze.
I made some more investigations on this topic, and
it looks like on Mac, processes can be opened (and
apps launched) by a MC standalone, and when it
quits, all apps
Ken Ray a écrit:
Did you set the lockLocationi of the player object to true?
I tried both options (true false), among many other things
(like setting the filename of the player, as well as its height
width every time I want to start it), but problem remains...
BTW I forgot to mention
Hi people,
First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who offered
solutions to my previous questions.
Now I'm meeting a problem with QT movies in 2.4 :
players get shrinked in height. Here's what I mean :
if I have a player of 320 (w) x 240 (h)
with the filename set by script to a .MOV file,
as
And hopefully the last one, as the CD-ROM I'm working on
is planed to go to duplication plant on monday...
Here's the problem :
I have 2 standalones, actually the french english versions of the
same app (FR.EXE and UK.EXE), both in the same directory
(at top level of the CD-ROM).
I want the
Hi,
How can I open a substack, rearrange (by script) various controls
on it, and then print it, without ever disokaying it on screen ?
Is there any special parameter associated with the open stack
command that I missed ?
Thanks.
JB
Archives:
Hi people,
I have a few VERY URGENT questions - sorry for being so
demanding...
I am finishing an MC app (2.3.2) that will run on Mac Win
and will be distributed on a CD-ROM.
QUESTION 1 :
At the some point, the app will need to launch the default browser
to open an HTML file located on one
Hi List (2),
I'm finishing an app with 2.3.2 that will ship on CD-ROM
and is supposed to send emails (among other things).
I was thinking of using the POST command to send request
to a script somewhere on one of our servers (Perl or MChttpd)
that would forward the email to the right
Hi list,
Any idea of when final release for MC 2.4 will be available ?
I'm asking because I have a project that will require heavy use of
images with full transparency, and only 2.4 supports this.
Due to tight production schedule, if I have to simulate this on
2.3.2, I need to start the work
Hi List (3),
I have a problem with a stack I'm finishing on 2.3.2 (Mac) :
I have a jpeg image on layer 1, and on top of that
(layer 2) a group made of various images transparent
buttons performing rollovers card selections.
The problem is : when the mouse rolls over the
transp. btns,
Ken,
Sure - use the computer's native email client, as in:
Thanks for the idea, but it crossed my mind already, and
it doesn't really suits my needs : in that case the end user needs to write
emails by himself...
The app is a kind of catalog in which the user chooses various
items and then
Brian,
Yes, I forgot to tell : all images are imported into the stack and the
always buffer property is set for all images.
The only thing I don't understand is the fact that when I select any
control
just once with the select tool and then go back to browse tool, problem
disapears... The bas
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Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:48 PM
Subject: Flickering problem with a stack
Hi List (3),
I have a problem with a stack I'm finishing on 2.3.2 (Mac) :
I have a jpeg image on layer 1, and on top of that
(layer 2) a group
Hi,
I have a problem with preventing Mousestilldown message
to be passed from a palette to the stack.
Whatever I do (like putting on Mousestilldown / end
Mousestilldown handlers in the buttons, cards stack scripts
of the palette) the message is always passed to the stack (the one
calling the
Hi,
I'm trying to find a way to get the info relative to cookies
passed by a cgi server in the header of an HTML document.
for instance :
Set-Cookie: CUSTOMER=WILE_E_COYOTE; path=/; expires=Wednesday, 09-Nov-99
23:12:40 GMT
As far as I understand, when I run
get URL www.whatever.com
in
Nelson,
I've created a stack on my Mac to keep track of the editions of my wife's
bronze sculpture. Cross town the gallery is PC, is there any way to get my
stack to run on their PC without creating a standalone?
Nelson Zink
In theory (and in practice), if they download the right version
Hi guys,
Sorry to bother you again with the same thread, but I made
some more discoveries on the topic of on-the-fly grouping /
ungrouping.
As described before, I have 50 images that can be grouped /
ungrouped in various ways.
If I run the following script :
group image id 1430
set
At 12:55 AM -0700 7/20/2001, jbv wrote:
I'm also having problems changing bordercolor
of images...
The color of image borders is inherited. (The bordercolor of an image does
something else, it's determined by the image's palette data.) So you need
to set the borderColor of the card/stack
Today I've been playing with groups in MC and found
it quite frustrating, for 2 main reasons (if I missed
anything please MC gurus enlighten me) :
- the only way to group controls is to select them first,
which makes grouping/ungrouping on the fly via script
quite cumbersome : you need to set
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Some years ago I developped a relational database that was faster than
Filemaker.
There were about 70 records... FMP just chocked on it. HC stacks choked
after
12 MBs of data where in...
The trick was to split the interface/engine from the records which were in
Robert Brenstein :
I just read that Panorama recently released v4.0 (see
http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0107/10.panorama.shtml).
Given that both MC and Panorama are RAM-based, anyone have insights into why
building databases in native MC is discouraged?
I am not an expert but
Hi guys,
can an object (btn, fld, image, etc) be part of different
groups simultaneously ?
Thanks.
JB
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Hi again,
I'm trying to find a graphic format to import in
an image object in MC that doesn't mess up with
transparency (in 8 bits on the alpha channel).
I tried PNG and GIF, but it seems that those
formats include transparency on 1 bit only.
The ideal thing would be to import Photoshop
files,
Hi,
Has anyone already tried to implement a hardware key
protection (dongle) with a MC standalone ?
Thanks.
JB
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Hi list,
We have MChttp installed on our local mail server
running Apache, and I've been doing various
client / server tests and scripts.
Everything works fine fast, except that I noticed
that long cgi requests using POST method from a
browser get truncated...
My script use the following
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