to see this initiative!
Over the coming month I hope to contribute significantly, and I have some
thoughts on some microformats I'd really like to see. However, I'm going to
sit back and get a feel for the group and how things operate before I
propose anything so as not to waste anybody's time.
-Mike
I want to vote on the poll but can you clarify what certain options mean
exactly, maybe by hypothetical examples (quoted parts are what confuse me)?
* Currency symbol identification from other part of the text
* Global currency definition
* Amount identification from other part of the text
So, they typically resort to integration mechanism or other concepts
(retailer-manager store-in-store) they can control and authorize for select
e-retailers they work closely with.
Which is why I think the ideas I have will be a lot like RSS; they are
small, simple, and will really help
Wow. At 1.5MB of documentation, that's pretty much the antithesis of a
microformat.
Holy $h1t! Maybe we should call that one a Macroformat? Hehe. ;)
-Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Reynen
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006
: Preliminary results
Mike Schinkel wrote:
This is a naïve question: Doesn't the ISO 4217 code *imply* a symbol?
It appears so here: http://www.xe.com/symbols.htm Doesn't including
this in the microformat create redundancy?
Alternately, can't the symbols be extracted as not being alphanumeric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lachlan Hunt
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 4:19 AM
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Currency Quickpoll: Preliminary results
Mike Schinkel wrote:
Thanks for the clarification.
Further questions (and forgive me
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: title attribute and abbreviated class names (Was:
[uf-discuss]Currency Quickpoll: Preliminary results)
On Oct 12, 2006, at 10:34 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
Anyway, I made a proposal here:
http://microformats.org/wiki/currency-brainstorming#Mike_Schinkel
-based web services. If I am correct
about this, it is important that we sooner than later start promoting Well
Designed Urls as well as crystalizing a set of best practices for URL
structure design.
At least that my opinion and I am hoping you each concur. Thoughts?
Questions?
-Mike Schinkel
http
. If I misunderstood, sorry
for my missing the point.
-Mike
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Hunt
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 6:41 AM
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Currency Quickpoll: Preliminary results
Mike
The book costs $span class=USD5.99/span
This gives me a chance to ask in a different way, why can we not assume
type=USD, amount=5.99, and symbol=$ from the following?
The book costs span class=currency title=USD$5.99/span
I believe you answer will be what about unicode where we are
and abbreviated class names
(Was:[uf-discuss]Currency Quickpoll: Preliminary results)
On Oct 14, 2006, at 3:42 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
I think your use of the title attribute in these examples contains
two
bad practices
Hmm. I see your point, and being new to this I'm learning from your
examples
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] First version of Currency proposal
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Schinkel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
This gives me a chance to ask in a different way, why can we not assume
type=USD, amount=5.99, and symbol=$ from the following?
The book costs span class=currency
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Mabbett
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:22 PM
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Currency Quickpoll: Preliminary results
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Schinkel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
£1 was worth 2.50 dollars
Those are edge
number of my suggestions you'll certainly need to
rework some of it as I didn't flesh it out exhaustively, and in two case I
left to be written with notes.
JMTCW.
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blog
http://www.welldesignedurls.org/
=
* Title Slide
My opinion is this sounds like a great idea! Will you be doing the edit on
the current proposal?
I am surprised however at the number of people who felt Currency
unit/denomination used identification was important and it seems like an
edge case to me. I'm hoping that this become an optional
-discuss] currency quickpoll results and suggested next step
Mike Schinkel wrote
I am surprised however at the number of people who felt Currency
unit/denomination used identification was important and it seems like
an edge case to me. I'm hoping that this become an optional aspect as
opposed
Christopher:
I concur and wanted to email something similar, but I didn't want to be the
messenger that was shot. Thanks for interjecting!
-Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Christopher Rines
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 6:51 PM
I agree that the current layout is confusing. After reading several of these
email I would like to make a suggestion that is smaller scope than an entire
reorganization (which still might be a good idea.)
Tantek suggests that the specifications are not tutorials and others have
said that they
The address tag ... is designed to markup information related to the
author of a particular page
Too bad sites like the following don't make that more clear (reading it I
never would have come to the conclusion that it was for the author of the
current page):
misconception was cleared after which I became a convert. I would guess a
lot of people might have a similar misconception.
-Mike
-Original Message-
From: Mike Schinkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:45 PM
To: 'Microformats Discuss'
Subject: RE: [uf-discuss] ANN
really like it. Remember to check back and
make sure progress is happening. Feel free to give me a nudge if I'm
unresponsive.
Ben
On 10/16/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would you mind confiming this on the to-do page under my name [1]?
I added, see if it is what you were
based on my clarification. Also, would
there be sufficient interest for me to start a list now, and invite anyone
interested to come on over? I'll need 5-10 interested parties otherwise it
won't be time yet.
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blog
http://www.welldesignedurls.org/
P.S
I think the reorganization to create mini-home pages for each microformat
will make it easy to find and remember those, i.e
http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard/faq
-Mike
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frances
Berriman
Sent:
this elsewhere. Repeating what I said above, can you
give me any pointers for sending my first post to that list?
In closing, even though I disagreed with you on some topics I respect you
for your position in the W3C and I greatly appreciate the time you've given
me thus far.
-Mike Schinkel
http
most people, even most tech
geeks, don't understand regular expressions at all.
Peace,
Scott
On Oct 15, 2006, at 4:40 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
Scott:
Thanks for the reply. If probably got confusing on my part; I will try
to resolve that here if possible.
I thought what you suggested
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: RE: [uf-discuss] Casual Web Services and Well Designed Urls
On 10/16/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But the reason I bring them up here on Microformats discuss as I see
clean URLs as being important for being able to easily screen scrape
microformats
Benjamin:
As one data point, I learned about Microformats[1] at a conference[2]. When
I came to the site I wanted to learn how to author them. In addition, I
wanted to learn how to get involved in the process of specifying new ones
(although I doubt only a small percentage will be interested in
] On Behalf Of Benjamin
West
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 5:06 PM
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar spec- no specification included!
On 10/18/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A form would be nice, but it takes time to develop and we can't expect
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar spec- no specification included!
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Schinkel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I don't think anyone has said that. I certainly don't think people
should
be encouraged to begin authoring before first
Has there been any thought to try and survey the web development community
at large on these types of issues? I could see the value of having a lot of
these types of questions answered if we were do present surveys (of course
hopefully we could find a surveying expert to help us make sure we were
Justin:
Very good organization!
JMTCW.
-Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin
Thorp
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:57 PM
To: microformats-discuss@microformats.org
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar spec- no specification
] On Behalf Of Tantek Ç
elik
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:13 PM
To: microformats-discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar spec- no specification included!
On 10/18/06 4:04 PM, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My point was simply to be careful not to overwhelm the user with text
See my todo list.
Suggestion: can you be sure to include the actual URL of any referenced item
in any emails to make sure I can actually find it. :)
Do you think you can do a refinement of your categories on the to-do
list? Can you also enumerate the categories of content generally available
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Size considerations
On Oct 18, 2006, at 6:34 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
The following is 6 characters:
$54.97
This is 151 characters (according to MS-Word's stats dialog):
span class=money
span class=symbol title=dollar$/span
://microformats.org/wiki/to-do#Information_Architecture.
I did the hAtom creator and am interested in further work on the creators.
http://microformats.org/wiki/to-do#Creators
If there is a creator missing, I'll gladly come up with something.
Ben
On 10/18/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Paul
Weber
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:55 PM
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: title attribute and abbreviatedclassnames(Was:[uf-discuss]Currency
Quickpoll: Preliminary results)
On 10/18/06, Mike Schinkel
The point I am trying to make is this: file size *is* an issue, but it is
not an insurmountable problem and can be solved through technology and good
design; file size shouldn't compromise the semantics and design of a
microformat.
Since I was the one that originally called the question I want
Okay... Did I just make more work for myself? :)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles
Roper
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:45 AM
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Size considerations
Mike Schinkel wrote:
Has
The point I am trying to make is abbreviations can be very dangerous and
are very easy to mis-interpret so I think we need to think long and hard
before choosing and implementing them. I am not arguing against them in
specific cases but very well thought out cases.
I have a question about
Microformats to someone who thinks CalDAV is the only
thing they need to support.
Can I get some help with this?
-Mike Schinkel
P.S. Also, I think a great addition to the FAQ would be to list of standard
like vCard and CalDAV etc. and give arguments for why Microformats should be
considering in parallel
. for formatting
to make it very tight):
address
img
src=http://www.mikeschinkel.com/images/MikeSchinkel_120x120.jpg;
a target=_blank
href=http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blog/;Mike Schinkel/a
a target=_blank href=http://www.guidesinc.com;Guides,
Inc
: Friday, October 20, 2006 12:00 AM
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats vs. CalDAV?
On Oct 19, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
The good news is Apple in on our board, which means CalDAV would
be the standard we'd employ.
CalDEV: http
I tend to prefer the combination of IRC+wiki,
Slightly off topic, but can anyone recommend a good free IRC client for
WinXP?
-Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tantek Ç
elik
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:49 PM
To:
: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:49 PM
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar spec- no specification included!
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Schinkel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I'm coming to believe that there are some very different assumed goals
use-cases among the people
span class=currency title=USD$1,000/span
In the US that will mean one dollar, in Argentina (where I'm from) it
will mean a thousand dollars.
I believe you misunderstood what I was proposing; a shorthand for cases
where it was unambiguous. When it was ambiguous it would require more.
Unless I
. Just like acronyms can be an
insiders language, abbreviations can obfuscate meaning.
To reiterate my position I love abbreviations but anywhere they are used
really need to be studied. :-)
Cheers,
Christopher
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schinkel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in addition to other
Thanks for the all input on chat programs! I'll check'em out and get on the
IRC after I come back from this long weekend.
-Mike
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microformats-discuss@microformats.org
] On Behalf Of Ciaran McNulty
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 4:34 AM
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] First version of Currency proposal
On 10/20/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question: How does a human currently interpret a website that is have
values such as $1,000
we could introduce the implied optimisation that if there is no explicit
'amount' then the amount could be taken to be everything inside the
'money' that isn't the 'currency' That would simplify the markup in
a large number of the cases, and I don't think would complicate the
parsing
Sure then, next week. :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tantek Ç
elik
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 5:01 AM
To: microformats-discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] IRC Chat Client?
On 10/20/06 1:52 AM, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
McNulty
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 5:14 AM
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] First version of Currency proposal
On 10/20/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question: how would someone implement a wiki with different pages in
different languages since they don't have
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats vs. CalDAV?
On Oct 19, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
The good news is Apple in on our board, which means CalDAV would
be the standard we'd employ.
CalDEV: http://ietf.osafoundation.org/caldav/
Now, it's my
Brian Suda recently said:
the problem with using Meta elements is that they are out-side
of human-readable realm. One of the key factors in microformats
is to keep the data visible, it keeps it fresh, prevents many of
the abuses that have befallen meta-keywords, and also allows
for
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats vs. CalDAV?
On Oct 19, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
P.S. Also, I think a great addition to the FAQ would be to list of
standard like vCard and CalDAV etc. and give arguments for why
Microformats should be considering
:38 AM
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Page-Global solution to Size Considersations
(wasSize considerations (or how to choose))
On 10/20/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe the size per amount marked-up can be addressed by focusing on
providing a page-global
archives to dig them out. I
also don't want to have to decide which are policies and which are someone's
singular opinions; the wiki process will weed out the latter.
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blog
http://www.welldesignedurls.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tantek Ç
elik
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 2:16 AM
To: microformats-discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Visible Data...a Microformat requirement?
On 10/22/06 11:10 PM, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian Suda recently said
...a Microformat requirement?
On 10/23/06 12:11 AM, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it is not worth or appropriate to make the information visible,
then it is not worth trusting the information and certainly not
worth the time to make a microformat for it.
But what if the website
Brian Suda wrote:
--- there are elements in HTML which convay more semantic information.
Gotcha, thanks.
The next step is to explicitly label that abbr so parser know it is the
TYPE.
span class=currencyabbr class=type title=USD$/abbr5.99/span
This gets back to what I was trying to get away
] mailing list policies reminder
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Schinkel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
can we please make sure that all policies make their way to
http://microformats.org/mailinglists-policies/
I also don't want to have to decide which are policies and which are
someone's singular
Of Tantek Ç
elik
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 5:52 PM
To: microformats-discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Advocacy Page on Wiki
On 10/20/06 2:58 PM, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I created an Advocacy page on the Wiki.
http://microformats.org/wiki/Advocacy
If it's not the right place
...a Microformat requirement?
On 10/23/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, what if your take on this problem and use-case?
I'm not Tantek, but you're use-case seems eminently reasonable, and I'd
suggest could be solved using an appropriate new [EMAIL PROTECTED], and then
convicing the search engines
Search engines make use of shingles to identify pages and their aliases.
What's a shingle?
As far as I can tell, this isn't in the same class of problems that
microformats solve.
Is there a clear and definitive objective statement that explains the class
of problems that microformats are
] Visible Data...a Microformat requirement?
On 10/23/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd suggest could be solved using an appropriate new [EMAIL PROTECTED],
and
then
convicing the search engines to pay attention to it ;-)
Do you mean in head? Did you see my earlier comments about
Andy Mabbett Why not create a new mailing list for each proposal, once
it's reached a certain stage?
I tend to really like this proposal. I've been thinking about if and how
Microformats can evolve and grow.
I can see Microformats being potentially much larger helping to create tags
in many
Thanks Charles.
However I still have no idea why these things apply to specifying which page
among of group of equivalent pages is authoritative and why Microformats do
not. The latter seem a perfect fit to me, and what you listed either don't
apply to general web pages, are years off and can't
it. As long as you don't call it a
microformat, feel free to experiment. :-)
- Ernie P.
On Oct 25, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
Thanks Charles.
However I still have no idea why these things apply to specifying
which page among of group of equivalent pages is authoritative and why
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Visible Data...a Microformat requirement?
On Oct 25, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
Thanks Charles.
However I still have no idea why these things apply to specifying
which page among of group of equivalent pages is authoritative and why
Charles,
Funny, I've been planning to write a blog post entitled something like
What's the one thing wrong with Open-Source? Forking! :)
-Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles
Iliya Krempeaux
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:45
Is it good for the interpretation of the data on one page to rely on data
on another page? anyone has an opinion?
My knee-jerk reaction is that it is very bad practice to have what would
essentially be the legend to be on a separate page. Very, very bad. When
I use to teach programming, one of
Because it hasn't gone through the (fairly rigorous) demands of the uF
process -- the process page on the wiki[1] outlines this.
But what I'm hearing is that if it's not visible it cannot go through that
process...
-Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL
PM
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Visible Data...a Microformat requirement?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Schinkel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
cardinal sin
Is this a pragmatic group that I'm working with, or a bunch of
religious zealots that I've managed to get entangle
that is *only* for machine consumption
Conversely, if he's unsure whether the metadata *has* to be invisible,
then perhaps this is still a worthwhile discussion.
For clarity, there is nothing that says that the metadata I was proposing
and am additionally envisioning couldn't be visible. It
] On Behalf Of Scott
Reynen
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:46 PM
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Visible Data...a Microformat requirement?
On Oct 26, 2006, at 3:07 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
I'm still not convinced. I've only heard generalities and no
specifics on anything
to process Microformats
abstractly so that new ones can be added after IE8 has shipped? And if that
is possible, wouldn't it make sense for us as a group to go ahead and
specify a standard way to define that abstraction?
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blog
http://www.welldesignedurls.org
administer a vBulletin forum right now and
it takes almost no time at all. You don't have to worry about issues with
POP3 and SMTP so it IMO is actually easier.
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs/
http://www.welldesignedurls.org
I just don't want to be checking a mailing list, wiki AND a forum.
On that point I've proposed integrating the mailing list AND the forum, to
give people the option of which of the two to use. So you wouldn't have to
check all three.
-Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
presence and
identity.
I don't see why one would have to create a completely new identity. I
almost always use MikeSchinkel or Mike Schinkel as applicable except in
the rare cases I want to be anonymous. Not so helpful for John Smith, but
for most of us it's not an issue.
You can link it to your
Chris:
I mean, once you're into personal preferences,
Just a point of note, I brought my preferences up only to show that there
were counter preferances and that one-sided preferences shouldn't be the
driving factor. Which was a much more verbose way of saying what you just
said.
But rather
title=QuinlinQ./abbrnbsp;
span class=family-namePublic/span,nbsp;
span class=honorific-suffixM.D./span/
/span
/span
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs/
http://www.welldesignedurls.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL
Ouch. Sounds like a trademark fight might occur, as commercial entities
lawyer's tend to recommend that kind of thing...
-Mike Schinkel
President; Guides, Inc.
http://www.guidesinc.com
(404) 474-8948
(404) 276-1276 cell
(404) 474-8949 fax
skype: mike.schinkel
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http
. Microformats will be nowhere nearly as useful I as first assumed it
to be.
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs/
http://www.welldesignedurls.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan
King
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 2:31 PM
Schinkel wrote:
Ouch. Sounds like a trademark fight might occur, as commercial
entities lawyer's tend to recommend that kind of thing...
-Mike Schinkel
President; Guides, Inc.
http://www.guidesinc.com
(404) 474-8948
(404) 276-1276 cell
(404) 474-8949 fax
skype: mike.schinkel
On 11/7/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that would make it unlikely that they could sue
anyone since
Anybody can sue anyone for anything and hence eat up lots of lawyer bills.
Whether they'd win is another subject. ;)
Chris said that it is similar, and if MicroFormat Ltd's lawyer
that it appears you
want to address.
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs/
http://www.welldesignedurls.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tantek Ç
elik
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:22 PM
To: microformats-discuss
Subject: Re: [uf
to this
email. As sich I do not appreciate being chastized in a public forum for
voilating your choice of how you would like things to be handled when your
guidance on how to handle the situation was given in retrospect.
Respectfully,
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs/
http
), but do
not have the time to follow a general mailing list; indeed, a
couple asked me specifically if I would set up a separate
mailing list for the subject.
Funny how we get to have deja vi all over again, eh? ;-)
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs/
http
Frances Berriman wrote:
On 11/17/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andy Mabbett wrote:
c/f recent discussion about uF mailing lists, and my comment:
For example, several academic and professional taxonomists
have
told me in e-mail that they would
website, this is what I think is needed. Now I haven't tried to
reconcile any of this to hlisting or anything else more than just a cursory
glance.
I look forward to everyone's thoughts and input.
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs/
http://www.welldesignedurls.org/
-Original
;
this post/a/cite
by a href=http://theRyanKing.com/; Ryan King /a.
*INSERT FLAME HERE*
I don't want to say that the blog post annoys me, I want to say that the
commentors on the blog post annoys me. :-) Thoughts on that usage?
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs
Thanks for the article.
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs/
http://www.welldesignedurls.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Mabbett
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To: Microformats Discuss
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looked at the ISSN URN (RFC 3044)?
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3044.txt
-Mike Schinkel
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of URLs with documented metadata, we should probably all play
smartly by the rules as specified by the W3C, at least IMO.
-Mike Schinkel
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[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#uri-opacity
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/metaDataInURI-31
Andy Mabbett wrote:
What about:
a class= tag isbn href=http://www.example.com/wibble/71194301X;
which could be a URL on the same site as the citation,
or on a trusted bibliographic website.
Agreed, but is there the latter?
-Mike Schinkel
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For those on this list who are not following [whatwg], here is an
interesting thread about inability to use Microformats:
http://listserver.dreamhost.com/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2006-December/00
8462.html
I wonder if his issues can be addressed?
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com
; Microformats has a
responsibility to the web at large to ensure Microformats can scale, but all
I've seen is resistence to even consider that (which is one of the reason's
I've been quiet lately.)
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs/
http://www.welldesignedurls.org/
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if I
decided to start marking up documents, as an example, using the class
directory and license, for purposes other than rel-directory and
re-license? How could my markup and those Microformats co-exist in the same
HTML document?
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs/
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of potential for collision such as the
one above, which is an example of a planned use.
But maybe Profile URIs can solve this. Can you please explain how, using my
example?
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs/
http://www.welldesignedurls.org
S. Sriram wrote:
They would simply co-exist. Period
My only response to your comments is that I strongly disagree with you, but
as you appears you have a similar conviction it would be a waste of time to
debate it further.
-Mike Schinkel
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Ironically, this sounds like another real-world (i.e. not hypothetical)
example of the need to provide a way to differentiate microformats.
-Mike Schinkel
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http://www.welldesignedurls.org/
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